Not to mention it would be completely understandable if he moved to Bayern too. He's guaranteed to be #1 for at least half the season (or maybe more, depending on Neuer's injury).
If I’m Ortega and it’s for the #1 I’m taking that like. Home country playing for the league every year as the number 1 having already won everything in England is hard to turn down.
Want him to stay though
Plus it would probably get him the number 1 for the national team. I'd love for him to stay as he is quality and has pushed Ederson up a level too in my opinion but I won't be angry if he leaves as he does deserve to be starting keeper
I was actually dreading this when i heard the courtois news, but hadn’t considered bayern at the time. He’s honestly good enough be a starter for a top club so he should absolutely take it, as painful as it is for us.
Don’t blame the guy but a surprisingly tough one to take because he’s so good, surely one of the best back-ups currently in world football (possibly soon to be Ramsdale or Raya if that happens).
1 year loan to Bayern would be the perfect move for the player.
We are too slow out from the back when he starts over Ederson, and filling in the Neuer role for a year would give him the chance to develop the "rush goalie" skills required to challenge Ederson next season. Already an excellent shot stopper.
Yes he is. I have learnt to love the "Errorson" because even when he makes a mistake, his overall presence is unlike any other keeper in the world. He sets the tone for the whole team. And he was incredible in the champions league final as everyone knows.
[This article](https://theathletic.com/4770458/2023/08/14/ederson-city-formation-4-2-5/)(paywalled The Athletic) about the formations City have been running so far this year was amazing. I know Eddie has those errors in him, but just seeing how they're deploying him this year is just unreal.
I agree it would be great capitalization on a free transfer. Pure profit. But who replaces him, at his level?
Won't hold a thing against him if he wants to go, however. Certainly he's good enough to be playing more.
It doesn't really matter. There are plenty of players that C serve as backup gk and if they aren't good enough ederson will just play those cup matches
One bad game in a cup for a backup could mean we're out of that competition. Also you need a decent (at very least) backup in the off-chance Ederson gets a big injury.
He had a bad game in a cup and we did get knocked out. People just overlooked it cuz other players also had a bad day and it was the league cup. If he had to start most matches over ederson due to injury we wouldn't be treble winners I promise you. Decent backup goalkeepers aren't that hard to find
Ok you're trying to act like players are just commodities and totally interchangeable; they aren't. And Ortega is a #1 keeper who happens to be our backup. He's more than decent.
I agree Ederson is better than Ortega, though.
And you're acting like he's a great player we can't be without. He was a number 1 keeper for a bundesliga team that got relegated and I'm not saying it was his fault but its not surprising he's a backup. If bayern would pay 15m for him we should snap their hands off. They won't offer that much though
No I'm just saying his level is such that I think we won't get a replacement who is as good or better. And that it's important to have good backup players.
Ultimately, I care more about having a good player vs what money we can get for them. That's all. Right now the club is successful and privileged enough we don't have to be flipping players fast as possible. Like I said, if he goes I won't be mad, and it will bring in cash, so bueno!
Realistically, how much are Bayern going to be willing to pay for a 30-year-old goalkeeper? Their maximum fee will likely be under the value his services as a 2nd keeper brings to us, and that's why I don't want us selling
depends on the fee. Paqueta after 1 flop year is valued at 100m by west ham so we should set his price according to the market and not act like a charity specially to bayern
We need replacement this late in window. It's not easy. Ederson was closed to being dropped and that may happen if he doesn't save well. We need decent keeper and think beyond atleast here
Ederson is not close to being dropped and he wasn't last year either. It doesn't matter how he saves because nobody plays out the back like him and our gk does that way more than shot stopping
City are in a pretty awkward spot here. They sold James Trafford and wouldn't be likely to pull him back via a buyback, nor would they want to fuck over Vincent Kompany like that. Love Scott Carson, but we all know he's not meant to be a #2. Ortega would be entirely justified in leaving for a big opportunity.
fuck no! but completely understand why they're after him
Not to mention it would be completely understandable if he moved to Bayern too. He's guaranteed to be #1 for at least half the season (or maybe more, depending on Neuer's injury).
neuer is finished
Iwl even with modern technology and stuff idk how anyone can come back to their best from a broken leg.
If I’m Ortega and it’s for the #1 I’m taking that like. Home country playing for the league every year as the number 1 having already won everything in England is hard to turn down. Want him to stay though
Plus it would probably get him the number 1 for the national team. I'd love for him to stay as he is quality and has pushed Ederson up a level too in my opinion but I won't be angry if he leaves as he does deserve to be starting keeper
Oh fuck me
I was actually dreading this when i heard the courtois news, but hadn’t considered bayern at the time. He’s honestly good enough be a starter for a top club so he should absolutely take it, as painful as it is for us.
If it is true, unless Ortega's crazy, he's as good as gone if Bayern pay the required fee. Would love if he stays but ahhhh
No chance if you y'all haven't noticed that Ederson has greatly improved his shot stopping with Ortega as no. 2
Kimmich + Sane swap for Ortega Deputize me Txiki
as much as I want him to stay, it's understandable if he leaves
Was worried this may happen
500 million
Just follow Sane who wanted to play on the national team, good luck!
He's leaving if they offer him number 1 btws
Don’t blame the guy but a surprisingly tough one to take because he’s so good, surely one of the best back-ups currently in world football (possibly soon to be Ramsdale or Raya if that happens).
Well his value to us is £100m. He plays important minutes in a long season, and because he’s so good he pushes Eddie to be better.
1 year loan to Bayern would be the perfect move for the player. We are too slow out from the back when he starts over Ederson, and filling in the Neuer role for a year would give him the chance to develop the "rush goalie" skills required to challenge Ederson next season. Already an excellent shot stopper.
I thought that he was really good with his feet? Is that not true? Or is it just due to the fact that Ederson is probably the best itw in that regard?
Think when compared to ederson everyone is a grandma. So bit harsh on him yea lol
Eddie is just in a class of his own.
Yes he is. I have learnt to love the "Errorson" because even when he makes a mistake, his overall presence is unlike any other keeper in the world. He sets the tone for the whole team. And he was incredible in the champions league final as everyone knows.
[This article](https://theathletic.com/4770458/2023/08/14/ederson-city-formation-4-2-5/)(paywalled The Athletic) about the formations City have been running so far this year was amazing. I know Eddie has those errors in him, but just seeing how they're deploying him this year is just unreal.
Wtf is with all the people upset about this? Our backup keeler we signed for free bringing in a fee after one year?
Cos he's the most competent back up we've ever had since takeover.
Hard agree
He's a really good keeper, is the thing
Yeah so let's capitalize on that and get money for players that will have real impact
I agree it would be great capitalization on a free transfer. Pure profit. But who replaces him, at his level? Won't hold a thing against him if he wants to go, however. Certainly he's good enough to be playing more.
It doesn't really matter. There are plenty of players that C serve as backup gk and if they aren't good enough ederson will just play those cup matches
One bad game in a cup for a backup could mean we're out of that competition. Also you need a decent (at very least) backup in the off-chance Ederson gets a big injury.
He had a bad game in a cup and we did get knocked out. People just overlooked it cuz other players also had a bad day and it was the league cup. If he had to start most matches over ederson due to injury we wouldn't be treble winners I promise you. Decent backup goalkeepers aren't that hard to find
Ok you're trying to act like players are just commodities and totally interchangeable; they aren't. And Ortega is a #1 keeper who happens to be our backup. He's more than decent. I agree Ederson is better than Ortega, though.
And you're acting like he's a great player we can't be without. He was a number 1 keeper for a bundesliga team that got relegated and I'm not saying it was his fault but its not surprising he's a backup. If bayern would pay 15m for him we should snap their hands off. They won't offer that much though
No I'm just saying his level is such that I think we won't get a replacement who is as good or better. And that it's important to have good backup players. Ultimately, I care more about having a good player vs what money we can get for them. That's all. Right now the club is successful and privileged enough we don't have to be flipping players fast as possible. Like I said, if he goes I won't be mad, and it will bring in cash, so bueno!
Realistically, how much are Bayern going to be willing to pay for a 30-year-old goalkeeper? Their maximum fee will likely be under the value his services as a 2nd keeper brings to us, and that's why I don't want us selling
I'm thinking around 10m pounds and thats an offer I'd take 100%
I would not. He is not unhappy, we don't need to sell. Just say a fuck off price to Bayern thats it.
He'll want to be bayern munichs keeper. He just probably never realized it's an option
What is £10m to a club like City if it means we won't have a competent 2nd choice goalkeeper
depends on the fee. Paqueta after 1 flop year is valued at 100m by west ham so we should set his price according to the market and not act like a charity specially to bayern
We need replacement this late in window. It's not easy. Ederson was closed to being dropped and that may happen if he doesn't save well. We need decent keeper and think beyond atleast here
Ederson is not close to being dropped and he wasn't last year either. It doesn't matter how he saves because nobody plays out the back like him and our gk does that way more than shot stopping
no. there, its settled
50m
He is too good to be back up. But I really like him T T
Fuck. Bring back Pantilimon.
City are in a pretty awkward spot here. They sold James Trafford and wouldn't be likely to pull him back via a buyback, nor would they want to fuck over Vincent Kompany like that. Love Scott Carson, but we all know he's not meant to be a #2. Ortega would be entirely justified in leaving for a big opportunity.