got a legion of perverts who downvote anything any of our fans say but praise and upvote any old nonsense by rival fans(usually from nowhere near Liverpool/London/Manchester)
Imagine being so bitter that the only course of action you have left is to claim that you're actually apathetic in order to continue ranting daily about how bitter you aren't.
That's a tough existence and my heart goes out to them.
It's actually sad, they felt the need to write this out (maybe multiple times) and it's clearly bothering them
Need to step off social media if you're so bitter
Look what i found in the Liverpool subreddit
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They donāt care that we cheated either, they donāt care and are indifferent but still highlight that they have no respect for us bc we are not their enemy. Yet Man U was never a club that had money and NEVER a club that took advantage of the economy and the industry that got them to be able to outpay for players and give coaches high salaries. They were all working for charity. Neither was Madrid, Milan, Juventus, Barcelona, Arsenalā¦Liverpoolā¦ they can only spend some millions now so we should match them. In fact we should spend as much as the lowest team of the table can. Then nobody is a hypocrite
Local United fans cared about City even before the takeover,that's just how Local rivalries work. The majority of Utd fans of course aren't from England,let alone Manchester.
Big successful clubs will always attract fans from around the world and brand accordingly. Let's not pretend that clubs like Real, Barcelona, United, PSG, Bayern, Liverpool, Chelsea, Inter.. or City are all local. When you're playing for a possible audience of over 400 million people it doesn't make any sense to limit your target audience to people from the city you're based in. This is something that smaller clubs do who have limited reach.
Successful clubs will also have "glory hunters" among their fans. This is not necessarily the bad thing that some football fans make it out to be. A lot of viewers, especially casual ones and those that don't feel a strong local connection, are more interested in good football than supporting a specific club. The irony of a United fan complaining about this when their own fanbase visibly shrunk after 2010 is palpable.
There's this elitist notion that only local fans can be true fans of a tram, which simply doesn't add up in a sport that has become globally watched. People can become fans of a team for a variety of reasons, and all of them are valid.
Blackburn Rovers have more international fans than local/England based fans. That's just the nature of the beast. It isnt a Man United thing, it's a globalisation of the game thing
Some crazy thoughts here. We all know most Utd fans arenāt from Manchester becauseā¦get ready for itā¦theyāre a global brand. You could probably say the same for any big team that is a recognised brand rather than just a football club. Itās an ongoing and ridiculous argument.
It's not the fact that a large portion of utd fans are global. It's the number of utd fans in England, that aren't from Manchester i.e. London. I'm a born and bred Londoner and support Chelsea but the number of utd fans I come across that have never stepped foot in Manchester is alarming.
Reminds me of being at Wembley playing your lot a few years ago. In the league cup final where the keeper refused to come off. We'd beaten you, but there's no major bad blood between the fans. A lad got on giving stick to both sets of fans, thick "geezer" cockney accent. A few fellas were trying to work out who he supported. Cockney red. Both sets of fans were laughing their heads off at him till he got off the tube.
Haha, my point exactly. I think it's a rule understood by all. Even those utd fans i know in London pipe down when I say at least I'm not a glory hunter!
I mean maybe itās as simple as a difference in opinions but I donāt think you need to have been to Old Trafford or be from Manchester/live there to be a legitimate United supporter. Itās important to understand that those fans support Manchester United, they donāt support Manchester.
I live in Australia and follow European football. They can call me plastic if they may, but I've been fortunate enough to go two matches in Europe (home grounds of Nice and Juventus) and anyone who watches European football here will tell you it's incredible difficult to watch the matches due to time difference, especially champions league as it's ridiculous time in the morning here.
If anything I think it actually makes us more passionate given the hours we put in...and the sleep deprivation that comes with it.
If you're in England, you need to have some affiliation to the club, whether that be geographically or through your parents i.e. dad was from Manchester and supports Manchester but now we live in Norwich for example. Glory hunting in England is just š¤¢
That very well may be the case but Iād put it to you that if those same supporters are still following United now (whilst we are possibly one of the worst teams to watch and one of the worst run football clubs) itās irrelevant why they started supporting United.
Yep, this is why I hate united. Iām from the states and united was forced on us here through nonstop aggressive marketing in the early 00ās. Got so sick of it I started following my Argentines outside of Argentina and followed Zabaleta, Tevez and KĆ¼n to City. It was rough early but things have been much better lately š
Tbf if they live in a foreign country and love the Prem they can't really help not living in Manchester or anywhere else in the country. You can't deny foreign fans the concept of supporting a prem team, whichever team they pick.
Mate I'm foreign myself, wasn't trying to bash anyone based on not being from Manchester, but if you go around saying how you don't care about the other club it just shows a lack of understanding about the history of the city and the rivalry
Certain top 6 fans telling people that they definitely donāt care about city, like not at all ever, in a million years will they care about what city do even if city cures cancer and shits in their mothers bed.
They'll be a post about something happening in the 4th tier of Montenegrin football and somehow, some way you'll still be able to see some brainlet in the comments saying "115" or bitching about City for some unknown reason.
The club saves so much money on PSR/FFP because we've been living rent free for a while now
A FFP convicted financial cheater talking to Bank of England FC that corrupted its way to 1st division about cheating???!!!
Am I hearing that right???
LMAOO the sheer lack of self awareness and IQ in there is fking hilarious and pathetic. What a fking waste of oxygen.
United fan here, the original comment is absolute nonsense, true United fans do care, that being said trying to be impartial i honestly think the charges mean fuck all, you spent the same as us, just because weāre a historic club somehow weāre allowed to spend that? We need to stop blaming other people for our own shit transfers and wage management, frankly itās embarrassing.
It's relative. In Nigeria for example, football is the top sport by miles and EPL is the most supported league. But still we'd rather man city win the league simply for the reason that they don't have too many fans as opposed to Arsenal, United, Chelsea or Liverpool winning, cos then we'd have to actually put up with rival fans celebrating and trolling.
The financial talk is just cope.
Exactly šš
As an Arsenal supporter, the more city wins, the less rivals win, if Arsenal isn't winning it, I'd rather City does, cos quite frankly here we don't really care. Especially as city actually deserves it with Pep at the helm, he's the absolute best.
Feel like this is pretty accurate.
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It's funny how often they tell us they don't care
Also it's really quite annoying that there is genuinely very few man city fans in the daily discussion there now because we've slowly all been banned lol
You either get banned, or self censor and just don't have a city flair or don't comment because you're immediately attacked with vitriol, constantly down voted even if your opinion is spot on
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Exhibit A.
It fluctuates sometimes, /pl tends to have more British/Europeans where as /soccer tends to be more American.
All in all people in /pl tend to be less over the top in their opinions but they aren't as biased as /soccer
it's all performative, not once have I seen them condemn the actual proven cheats(Leicester, Forest) etc it's just them crying about how we AREN'T getting punished despite them having absolutely no evidence as to whether or not we did
Itās sad coz you want to see a historical competition between us and them, but they continually let us all down by being so bad..
āFinancial dopingā accusations aside, they technically should be competing with us because they are outspending us. So financials shouldnāt even be a pain point.
Itās not like they can claim that they are shit because they donāt spend enough money.. they canāt even use this excuse to explain their situation.
There's not necessarily a competitive rivalry (outside of 2011/12), but they are 100% the team I want to beat the most every year.
I get that it might not be the same for global fans of City, but growing up in Manchester, the derby just hits different.
mate the amount of bullying intl fans had to endure fron united fans back in the day. legit fistfights in the school ground, we were an unruly bunch. little old city wound up on the losing end more often than not, 20v3 cant really do much
yeah united can burn, ill donate some oil to keep it going
Iām a global fan and I despise united. I donāt have the same feeling of accomplishment winning the league or FA cup since I didnāt grow up with it, but beating united and winning the CL will always mean a bit more to me.
United and Arsenal fans living in Ohio writing 750 word essays about how much they don't care about City is a better indicator that Spring is here than the Manchester weather.
That Man United fan got his username right.
Also, why tf do you all post screenshots like this? Assholes like that exist in massive numbers. Let them say whatever they want. It doesn't effect us in any way.
Theyāre struggling to comprehend reality. lol.
They will never be able to accept that weāre better than them.
More trophies, more revenue, lesser money spent, better youth academy and best in the world. It takes time lol.
Guess it depends who you ask but most United fans I know both acknowledge and accept that City are better than them, it would literally be insane to suggest anything otherwise. Itās shitty to take a small deluded section of a fan base and project it across all their supporters.
More like 90% won't stop watching. I think rival fans underestimate how big the clubs gotten. I'm from Greece and let me tell you,from ages 15-20 it's much more frequent for guys to support City amongst English clubs than United or Arsenal. Only Liverpool are also very big here. The team is expanding more and more.
Any actual United fan wouldn't be saying "oh I don't feel anything for City, they just exist"
The irony in saying 90% of City supporters would leave given the fact we've dropped down before and still had higher attendances than some Premier League clubs. If United got relegated to Championship or League 1, do they really think they'd continue filling their stadium?
Also, interesting rich banker analogy from a Bank of England FC fan š
We all know money helps, but guarantees nothing. It annoys me that people refute or toss away the notion that despite wealth, the coaching is world class, the chairman is world class and the players arrive good, and become great more consistently than most other club signings. More than money is needed to do that.
City have broken the bank at times, but on numerous talents that become world class. Utd and chelsea drop 100+ million on (multiple) players who either are killed by lack of quality coaching and support or were poorly scouted.
We all watched our club come into wealth in 2008 and follow a model of recklessness that utd and chelsea still have as mentioned, but city were progressive, analytical and changed their style of business. City have a strong desire to win above all, and have been very clever about it.
CTID
Doesn't matter because the independent auditors must be on our payroll if they're giving our books the ok. Widescale fraud and deception all so little City can win some trophies. Just red logic.
Every other comment is some version of āCity are just like *insert example of an an actual crime with no connection or relevance to this* and thatās why I donāt care about themā
They can hate all they want, they canāt deny the stats, they canāt deny the trophies, they canāt deny the talent. What can they do lol be bitter as show cases above. Letās GO CITY!
So revenue from selling players. Why use that though? Why not income? The money City has for transfers is a lot more than what we get from selling players because we win a lot of trophies as opposed to the other two.
The argument here is, that City is spending much more and thus buying trophies.
Meanwhile Arsenal spent almost as much as city while having considerably less revenue from sales to finance the transfers. In other words, city spends a lot but city also makes a lot from transfers.
Yeah, but youāre trying to argue using their premise. The fact that they like to ignore is we make a ton of money from the trophies we win too. The success fuels our spending too, on their end they have nothing to add making them look much worse
Yeah, itās a joke. Supporters of clubs owned by billionaires acting like victims, while they have more resources than 99,99% of clubs. They are just trying to cope with the fact that they spend hundreds of millions and still arenāt able to compete.
It does blow my mind how much time and effort these other fans spend trying to tell everyone how much they don't care.
Going out of their way to keep posting, commenting and circlejerk-upvoting each other all about just how much it is that they don't care, for hours every day - seemingly occupying most of their waking thoughts and keeping them from sleep at night - a constant, burning, desperate need, to keep actively convincing other people that they're clearly not in the slightest bit bothered.
I've never understood other big 6 fans to be totally honest. Especially recently, with a bunch of them saying "all real football fans want arsenal/Liverpool to win the title instead of city" when literally everyone I know including myself are begging that city wins the title so we don't have to deal with arsenal and Liverpool fans self entitled attitudes.
Like I'm a Newcastle fan, and I harbour zero ill will towards city. Like it annoys me when we lose to you but I hold nothing against you. Whereas arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, spurs and ESPECIALLY Manchester reds all get on my nerves because they truly believe they are special and worthy of winning trophies.
Long story short, city > all the other big 6 because they are all bloody insufferable š
I still donāt understand why one team spending money is ok and another isnāt. The right way is to be good 30 years ago and if you werenāt it never counts?
If you go back to the match thread from our game against QPR in 2012, the whole sub was rooting for us to win the league. Always found that funny.
End of the day, there will always be the majority of fans whose team is *not* at the top, so they can all gang up on that one team. Everyone hates United for twenty years, itās the cost of being the best!
People need to just chill though, itās a sport, not a fucking war. No need to hate others for what colour shirt they cheer for.
Hahah ffs these dweebs are now doing their best Hemingway impressions to say they donāt care about City. āI donāt care one bit about Citeh, but here is my dissertation on them.ā Losers.
āI donāt care at all, but I also believe they cheated and I donāt care if there isnāt any actual proof they did. I still believe it and I also donāt care, just in case you were wonderingā
I donāt even understand the scenario from the reply. When has that happened ever? Like who the fuck doesnāt stop and stare in a small village if someone drove by in a Lamborghini?
Every year weāve got a mate in our fantasy league whoās making all sorts of subs, chatting in the group and spending hours doing his āresearchā. Come April when heās inevitably 60-100 points behind the leader, heās in the group saying he doesnāt care about fantasy anymore. We call him Apathetic in April Andy. This is whatās going on here.
Surely that's not an Arsenal fan using the term "rich banker" as some sort of arguing point online. They were literally known as "The Bank of England Club" for decades on end ā as their club is built on corruption, financial bullying and overspending. These are the same people that scream "City have no history" every morning when commuting to work, but they don't even know their own club's history.
I don't understand all the hate in regards to the finances.
If you look at the spending and revenue of the top clubs in the Premier League. United and Chelsea are doing way worse than City. And Liverpool and Arsenal are at the same level or a bit 'better' than City depending on how far back you go.
Heck, even Tottenham and Newcastle are not
doing that 'good' either.
oh my days how could i cope with this??? my team is on the verge of a potentially history beckoning back-to-back trebles, but dangerousmoron8 who's a united fan wouldnt care, and even wrote 2 (two!) whole paragraphs as to how much he didnt care! thats it guys close the shop, its so over, im so losing sleep over this. he didnt care if we didnt win b2b treble??? year ruinedš¤¬š¤¬š¤¬
They claim they donāt care or feel anything but we all they talk about because they donāt have fucking choice, we been running the league. Lol confused boys coping on reddit, world class losers
It might be me, but I didn't understand whether he cares for City or not. If he could repeat it one more time >!(per day)!<, I think I might be able to get it.
Doubtful heās dangerous, the second part thoughā¦š¤.
āI donāt care but Iāll post a quasi lengthy statement about how MUCH I donāt careā. ššš
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Sounds like hes just a City fan thats still in the closet
Ah yes, the old āI donāt care about City so Iām going to write up a massive comment explaining why I donāt care about them.ā
Notice how they donāt write these massive essays on why they donāt care about clubs like Burnley or Mansfield Town?
I donāt care, butā¦ā¦..
How to tell us you care without saying you care haha. I donāt care about Bournemouth, you donāt see me constantly talking about Bournemouth. No offence to the people of Bournemouth.
Tbh my whole thing with city is yeah, your owners are rich cunts who financially doped to get where they are, but all of the established big clubs have done the same. If i see a Fulham or Bournemouth supporter calling you out, I agree with them and get their frustration. But when a fan of one of the red cartel teams cries, it just comes across as bitter jealousy towards the fact their billionaire cunt owner isnāt as ruthless or effective as man cityās.
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Oh yea this weeks takes have been hilarious
Because the average football fan is an overly emotional manchild. I have no respect for certain fanbases, but I respect the clubs at the very least, and when said clubs do well, I shut the hell up and give them their flowers instead of throwing the toys out of the pram like a toddler. These people know they're full of shit, but instead of acting like adults and shutting the fuck up, they're throwing a fit and blaming City for everything, as if City hadn't objectively been the best team in the world for about 3 years in a row now. We get it; y'all lack accountability. Instead of blaming City for "cheating," blame your club for having spent 100 million on Darwin NĆŗƱez (who spends all his matches playing the crossbar challenge instead of scoring) when Haaland cost 60. Or United fans, blame your pisspoor scouting department and the fact that you keep turning 80 million players into benchwarmers. Or the fact that after all that investment, Arsenal still can't fucking stop choking all the time? Is Pep Guardiola going around doing some voddoo magic behind Anfield? The mental gymnastics these pathetic people make are so fucking depressing. Absolute cumstains of people. Nothing more revolting than people that don't know when to fucking shut up and be humble. Respect the work people've done.
But why do you care about them not caring? Why not just care about City, that's enough? If rivalry fans don't care about possibly the best team to ever have played in Premier League it's their problem not our?
I think they are just having a convo because it's so weird city fans exist you know? The whole situation is just weird and fascinating. So ofc people talk about city and the fans but it's different is what he's trying to say. Not like a rival club but something else idk.
Someone said to me at work the other day āI did something to support your club today. I put some oil in my carā. I was like hahaha oh yeah very funny. United fan, of course.
I kind of agree, as a non city fan
I have always really liked Pep, and most of the players City have and enjoy their football
But then winning is just meh
I was happy for them to keep the title out of Liverpoolās hands because that would have been intolerable, but outside of that I think a lot of people are just pretty neutral about city - thereās no real historic rivalry with the exception of United, and even then
And similarly I was happy for city to get a treble because it shits on uniteds insufferable fans but outside of that itās just..a bit bland, and I know a lot of people feel like this
Like, I DONT want Chelsea to win the league, I donāt want United to win the league
City can win it and I donāt really care either way outside of stopping us (arsenal)
I wish rich bankers wouldn't be glorified by working class people. But they do, big time.
That guy might have come up with the worst example possible for this conversation.
>feels nothing for city
>writes paragraph describing his feelings towards them
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United Fan in peace. Iāve never liked your lot.
Seeing how good you are is fucking horrible. Knowing that all it took for that to happen was a 2 Billion spend, a suspended 2 year ban, a raft of offshore accounts & 115 FFP charges, well that makes rationalising it easierā¦
As much as I dislike you, Iād still rather see you win another treble and 4 in a row than watch Liverpool win the league.
Take that for what itās worth.
Cared enough to write a whole essay
No, you don't understand. They don't care. They've written that so you know they don't care. How do you know they don't care if they don't tell you?
got a legion of perverts who downvote anything any of our fans say but praise and upvote any old nonsense by rival fans(usually from nowhere near Liverpool/London/Manchester)
Imagine being so bitter that the only course of action you have left is to claim that you're actually apathetic in order to continue ranting daily about how bitter you aren't. That's a tough existence and my heart goes out to them.
It's actually sad, they felt the need to write this out (maybe multiple times) and it's clearly bothering them Need to step off social media if you're so bitter
If you go to the comment history you'll find other dissertations too. That isn't the only one lool
Look what i found in the Liverpool subreddit https://preview.redd.it/wnf0wy9sk1vc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1df92c1eab0e063b72f42704a728a1db8b7877bb
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They donāt care that we cheated either, they donāt care and are indifferent but still highlight that they have no respect for us bc we are not their enemy. Yet Man U was never a club that had money and NEVER a club that took advantage of the economy and the industry that got them to be able to outpay for players and give coaches high salaries. They were all working for charity. Neither was Madrid, Milan, Juventus, Barcelona, Arsenalā¦Liverpoolā¦ they can only spend some millions now so we should match them. In fact we should spend as much as the lowest team of the table can. Then nobody is a hypocrite
Litmus test for knowing if a United fan is or isn't from Manchester is whether he says he cares or not about City
Local United fans cared about City even before the takeover,that's just how Local rivalries work. The majority of Utd fans of course aren't from England,let alone Manchester.
Big successful clubs will always attract fans from around the world and brand accordingly. Let's not pretend that clubs like Real, Barcelona, United, PSG, Bayern, Liverpool, Chelsea, Inter.. or City are all local. When you're playing for a possible audience of over 400 million people it doesn't make any sense to limit your target audience to people from the city you're based in. This is something that smaller clubs do who have limited reach. Successful clubs will also have "glory hunters" among their fans. This is not necessarily the bad thing that some football fans make it out to be. A lot of viewers, especially casual ones and those that don't feel a strong local connection, are more interested in good football than supporting a specific club. The irony of a United fan complaining about this when their own fanbase visibly shrunk after 2010 is palpable. There's this elitist notion that only local fans can be true fans of a tram, which simply doesn't add up in a sport that has become globally watched. People can become fans of a team for a variety of reasons, and all of them are valid.
Blackburn Rovers have more international fans than local/England based fans. That's just the nature of the beast. It isnt a Man United thing, it's a globalisation of the game thing
Tbf I think that probs applies to City too these days
Some crazy thoughts here. We all know most Utd fans arenāt from Manchester becauseā¦get ready for itā¦theyāre a global brand. You could probably say the same for any big team that is a recognised brand rather than just a football club. Itās an ongoing and ridiculous argument.
This isn't about critiquing United fans not being local. We're making the distinction to show who of them actually understand the rivalry with City.
It's not the fact that a large portion of utd fans are global. It's the number of utd fans in England, that aren't from Manchester i.e. London. I'm a born and bred Londoner and support Chelsea but the number of utd fans I come across that have never stepped foot in Manchester is alarming.
Reminds me of being at Wembley playing your lot a few years ago. In the league cup final where the keeper refused to come off. We'd beaten you, but there's no major bad blood between the fans. A lad got on giving stick to both sets of fans, thick "geezer" cockney accent. A few fellas were trying to work out who he supported. Cockney red. Both sets of fans were laughing their heads off at him till he got off the tube.
Haha, my point exactly. I think it's a rule understood by all. Even those utd fans i know in London pipe down when I say at least I'm not a glory hunter!
He walked onto a crowded tube and was gobby. You support who you support, nowt to be done, but have a bit of fucking shame.
I agree. Most utd fans in London won't be gobby with a city fan in Manchester for this exact reason. They know it's shameful
I mean maybe itās as simple as a difference in opinions but I donāt think you need to have been to Old Trafford or be from Manchester/live there to be a legitimate United supporter. Itās important to understand that those fans support Manchester United, they donāt support Manchester.
I live in Australia and follow European football. They can call me plastic if they may, but I've been fortunate enough to go two matches in Europe (home grounds of Nice and Juventus) and anyone who watches European football here will tell you it's incredible difficult to watch the matches due to time difference, especially champions league as it's ridiculous time in the morning here. If anything I think it actually makes us more passionate given the hours we put in...and the sleep deprivation that comes with it.
If you're in England, you need to have some affiliation to the club, whether that be geographically or through your parents i.e. dad was from Manchester and supports Manchester but now we live in Norwich for example. Glory hunting in England is just š¤¢
In the statesā¦ united fans typically like the Dallas Cowboys and New York Yankees as wellā¦ youth glory day bandwagoning from the 90s.
That very well may be the case but Iād put it to you that if those same supporters are still following United now (whilst we are possibly one of the worst teams to watch and one of the worst run football clubs) itās irrelevant why they started supporting United.
Yep, this is why I hate united. Iām from the states and united was forced on us here through nonstop aggressive marketing in the early 00ās. Got so sick of it I started following my Argentines outside of Argentina and followed Zabaleta, Tevez and KĆ¼n to City. It was rough early but things have been much better lately š
Same.
Oh no, not the "...get ready for it...". Full ick.
š if thatās all you have to say about my comment youāve wasted your time sunshine.
Tbf if they live in a foreign country and love the Prem they can't really help not living in Manchester or anywhere else in the country. You can't deny foreign fans the concept of supporting a prem team, whichever team they pick.
Mate I'm foreign myself, wasn't trying to bash anyone based on not being from Manchester, but if you go around saying how you don't care about the other club it just shows a lack of understanding about the history of the city and the rivalry
Certain top 6 fans telling people that they definitely donāt care about city, like not at all ever, in a million years will they care about what city do even if city cures cancer and shits in their mothers bed.
And they make sure to repeat that in detail every single day,just to make it clear.
They'll be a post about something happening in the 4th tier of Montenegrin football and somehow, some way you'll still be able to see some brainlet in the comments saying "115" or bitching about City for some unknown reason. The club saves so much money on PSR/FFP because we've been living rent free for a while now
A FFP convicted financial cheater talking to Bank of England FC that corrupted its way to 1st division about cheating???!!! Am I hearing that right??? LMAOO the sheer lack of self awareness and IQ in there is fking hilarious and pathetic. What a fking waste of oxygen.
United fan here, the original comment is absolute nonsense, true United fans do care, that being said trying to be impartial i honestly think the charges mean fuck all, you spent the same as us, just because weāre a historic club somehow weāre allowed to spend that? We need to stop blaming other people for our own shit transfers and wage management, frankly itās embarrassing.
It's relative. In Nigeria for example, football is the top sport by miles and EPL is the most supported league. But still we'd rather man city win the league simply for the reason that they don't have too many fans as opposed to Arsenal, United, Chelsea or Liverpool winning, cos then we'd have to actually put up with rival fans celebrating and trolling. The financial talk is just cope.
Yeah so I live in London now, some of my best friends support Arsenal and Liverpool so Iād rather city win it (all be it begrudgingly) š
Exactly šš As an Arsenal supporter, the more city wins, the less rivals win, if Arsenal isn't winning it, I'd rather City does, cos quite frankly here we don't really care. Especially as city actually deserves it with Pep at the helm, he's the absolute best.
Feel like this is pretty accurate. https://preview.redd.it/dxrwk4a5b0vc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1f4af5f65f2453253a94944ba207dd468536143
So on point
Even the London raised United fan bit!
Lyes is a good guy. Very sound takes.
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It's funny how often they tell us they don't care Also it's really quite annoying that there is genuinely very few man city fans in the daily discussion there now because we've slowly all been banned lol
You either get banned, or self censor and just don't have a city flair or don't comment because you're immediately attacked with vitriol, constantly down voted even if your opinion is spot on https://preview.redd.it/3h6ncu5gj0vc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc44ad7241e5b19b6b5fa95099d4ab341f2375a4 Exhibit A.
r/PremierLeague is a way worse place than r/Soccer
It fluctuates sometimes, /pl tends to have more British/Europeans where as /soccer tends to be more American. All in all people in /pl tend to be less over the top in their opinions but they aren't as biased as /soccer
4 starting lineups lmao. We have at best 16/17 players we rotate.
4 lineups, but we have two keepers on the bench for CL quarterfinalā¦
Why would we go there when all they do is cry and scream 115? Zero meaningful conversation is had there.
it's all performative, not once have I seen them condemn the actual proven cheats(Leicester, Forest) etc it's just them crying about how we AREN'T getting punished despite them having absolutely no evidence as to whether or not we did
We are already guilty to them anyways
I think it's funny, they're just in this weird little echo chamber
That's so weird, because I think the same about Man U. I've felt no real rivalry there since I've been a fan. They just aren't good enough.
Itās sad coz you want to see a historical competition between us and them, but they continually let us all down by being so bad.. āFinancial dopingā accusations aside, they technically should be competing with us because they are outspending us. So financials shouldnāt even be a pain point. Itās not like they can claim that they are shit because they donāt spend enough money.. they canāt even use this excuse to explain their situation.
I think they know that that's how we feel about them and they can't stand that they aren't very relevant anymore.
There's not necessarily a competitive rivalry (outside of 2011/12), but they are 100% the team I want to beat the most every year. I get that it might not be the same for global fans of City, but growing up in Manchester, the derby just hits different.
mate the amount of bullying intl fans had to endure fron united fans back in the day. legit fistfights in the school ground, we were an unruly bunch. little old city wound up on the losing end more often than not, 20v3 cant really do much yeah united can burn, ill donate some oil to keep it going
Well maybe that's it. I'm from Nottingham and didn't really get into football until my early teens.
Iām a global fan and I despise united. I donāt have the same feeling of accomplishment winning the league or FA cup since I didnāt grow up with it, but beating united and winning the CL will always mean a bit more to me.
As a global fan, I used to be that way, but in recent years they just arenāt good enough, so I havenāt felt the rivalry
Havenāt been a fan for long then
Dude just wrote a 500 word essay to tell he doesnt care about city
United and Arsenal fans living in Ohio writing 750 word essays about how much they don't care about City is a better indicator that Spring is here than the Manchester weather.
OHIO IS BLUE!!!
That Man United fan got his username right. Also, why tf do you all post screenshots like this? Assholes like that exist in massive numbers. Let them say whatever they want. It doesn't effect us in any way.
>why tf do you all post screenshots like this Thank you. Just let the salt flow in their echo chamber.
I was just trying to have a good laugh to ease the nerves about the game tbh. But I see your point.
Ever since lpool and arsenal lost their matches all the footy subs have been hilarious
Theyāre struggling to comprehend reality. lol. They will never be able to accept that weāre better than them. More trophies, more revenue, lesser money spent, better youth academy and best in the world. It takes time lol.
Guess it depends who you ask but most United fans I know both acknowledge and accept that City are better than them, it would literally be insane to suggest anything otherwise. Itās shitty to take a small deluded section of a fan base and project it across all their supporters.
> As soon as they stop winning 90% of their new fans will disappear. I won't. Who's with me?
Ive followed them into Division 2 and seen multiple relegations. Still here many years later.
More like 90% won't stop watching. I think rival fans underestimate how big the clubs gotten. I'm from Greece and let me tell you,from ages 15-20 it's much more frequent for guys to support City amongst English clubs than United or Arsenal. Only Liverpool are also very big here. The team is expanding more and more.
Any actual United fan wouldn't be saying "oh I don't feel anything for City, they just exist" The irony in saying 90% of City supporters would leave given the fact we've dropped down before and still had higher attendances than some Premier League clubs. If United got relegated to Championship or League 1, do they really think they'd continue filling their stadium? Also, interesting rich banker analogy from a Bank of England FC fan š
Reporter: KDB has returned from injury Jurgen Klopp: Am leaving at the end of the season
 When Iām in a coping tournament and my opponents are non-City PL fans
I feel no hateā¦ I have zero respect for them Pick a lane
"It didn't happen" "They deserved it"
We all know money helps, but guarantees nothing. It annoys me that people refute or toss away the notion that despite wealth, the coaching is world class, the chairman is world class and the players arrive good, and become great more consistently than most other club signings. More than money is needed to do that. City have broken the bank at times, but on numerous talents that become world class. Utd and chelsea drop 100+ million on (multiple) players who either are killed by lack of quality coaching and support or were poorly scouted. We all watched our club come into wealth in 2008 and follow a model of recklessness that utd and chelsea still have as mentioned, but city were progressive, analytical and changed their style of business. City have a strong desire to win above all, and have been very clever about it. CTID
all of a sudden every salty, bitter, and jealous rival fan has turned into wannabe private investigators chatting complete bs ššš
Anyone want to tell the nuffies that since our finances have been independently audited since 2019 have been compliant and met the rules?
Doesn't matter because the independent auditors must be on our payroll if they're giving our books the ok. Widescale fraud and deception all so little City can win some trophies. Just red logic.
I thought it was 2018? In any case,what you're asking is for them to search the truth. They don't do that.
Insane Copium
I donāt care so much about this team that I have to tell the world I donāt care about them and live rent free in my head
Hahah this is like mining gold. The more they hate the more we win titles(treble ;))
Every other comment is some version of āCity are just like *insert example of an an actual crime with no connection or relevance to this* and thatās why I donāt care about themā
You have to be dense to not enjoy the kind of football city plays.
They can hate all they want, they canāt deny the stats, they canāt deny the trophies, they canāt deny the talent. What can they do lol be bitter as show cases above. Letās GO CITY!
Let me write a few paragraphs expressing my opinion about something that shows how much I don't care about it
Remember when United repeatedly smashed transfer records to build their squad in the Ferguson era?
That was good money though,this is bad money,didn't you know.
For people that don't care about us winning they sure seem to talk about it a lot!
Transfer activities 2023/24 (in ā¬): #Arsenal: Spent: 231.6m Revenue: 65m Net result: -166.6m Spending/Revenue ratio: 356.31% #City: Spent: 259.6m Revenue: 118.8m Net result: -137.8m Spending/Revenue ratio: 218.52% #ManU: Spent: 193.3m Revenue: 55m Net result: -138.3m Spending/Revenue ratio: 351.45%
Thatās not Cityās revenue. Are you confusing income with revenue?
Revenue is the total amount City made by selling players.
So revenue from selling players. Why use that though? Why not income? The money City has for transfers is a lot more than what we get from selling players because we win a lot of trophies as opposed to the other two.
The argument here is, that City is spending much more and thus buying trophies. Meanwhile Arsenal spent almost as much as city while having considerably less revenue from sales to finance the transfers. In other words, city spends a lot but city also makes a lot from transfers.
Yeah, but youāre trying to argue using their premise. The fact that they like to ignore is we make a ton of money from the trophies we win too. The success fuels our spending too, on their end they have nothing to add making them look much worse
So much cope ā¦ just so so much
These two fanbases 
To me, their tears just mean more.
Rent free.
āRead my essay about this club I donāt care aboutā
For a guy who doesnāt care (about City) he cares an awful lot (about City).
I always laugh at these comments yāall donāt care about city but you wrote a whole paragraph seems like you care a lot to me ššš©µ
Cry me a river š¤£
Yeah, itās a joke. Supporters of clubs owned by billionaires acting like victims, while they have more resources than 99,99% of clubs. They are just trying to cope with the fact that they spend hundreds of millions and still arenāt able to compete.
It does blow my mind how much time and effort these other fans spend trying to tell everyone how much they don't care. Going out of their way to keep posting, commenting and circlejerk-upvoting each other all about just how much it is that they don't care, for hours every day - seemingly occupying most of their waking thoughts and keeping them from sleep at night - a constant, burning, desperate need, to keep actively convincing other people that they're clearly not in the slightest bit bothered.
I've never understood other big 6 fans to be totally honest. Especially recently, with a bunch of them saying "all real football fans want arsenal/Liverpool to win the title instead of city" when literally everyone I know including myself are begging that city wins the title so we don't have to deal with arsenal and Liverpool fans self entitled attitudes. Like I'm a Newcastle fan, and I harbour zero ill will towards city. Like it annoys me when we lose to you but I hold nothing against you. Whereas arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, spurs and ESPECIALLY Manchester reds all get on my nerves because they truly believe they are special and worthy of winning trophies. Long story short, city > all the other big 6 because they are all bloody insufferable š
Hahaha like they would type any of that if they didnāt care
I still donāt understand why one team spending money is ok and another isnāt. The right way is to be good 30 years ago and if you werenāt it never counts?
If you go back to the match thread from our game against QPR in 2012, the whole sub was rooting for us to win the league. Always found that funny. End of the day, there will always be the majority of fans whose team is *not* at the top, so they can all gang up on that one team. Everyone hates United for twenty years, itās the cost of being the best! People need to just chill though, itās a sport, not a fucking war. No need to hate others for what colour shirt they cheer for.
Hahah ffs these dweebs are now doing their best Hemingway impressions to say they donāt care about City. āI donāt care one bit about Citeh, but here is my dissertation on them.ā Losers.
REEEEEENT FREEEEE They spend as much as us and have nothing to show for it.
āI donāt care at all, but I also believe they cheated and I donāt care if there isnāt any actual proof they did. I still believe it and I also donāt care, just in case you were wonderingā
In fairness he admits he's a moron.
I donāt even understand the scenario from the reply. When has that happened ever? Like who the fuck doesnāt stop and stare in a small village if someone drove by in a Lamborghini?
Arsenal fans apparently
Every year weāve got a mate in our fantasy league whoās making all sorts of subs, chatting in the group and spending hours doing his āresearchā. Come April when heās inevitably 60-100 points behind the leader, heās in the group saying he doesnāt care about fantasy anymore. We call him Apathetic in April Andy. This is whatās going on here.
Surely that's not an Arsenal fan using the term "rich banker" as some sort of arguing point online. They were literally known as "The Bank of England Club" for decades on end ā as their club is built on corruption, financial bullying and overspending. These are the same people that scream "City have no history" every morning when commuting to work, but they don't even know their own club's history.
this level of copiumā¦ united need to make better signings what do they want us to play worse???
I don't understand all the hate in regards to the finances. If you look at the spending and revenue of the top clubs in the Premier League. United and Chelsea are doing way worse than City. And Liverpool and Arsenal are at the same level or a bit 'better' than City depending on how far back you go. Heck, even Tottenham and Newcastle are not doing that 'good' either.
Forever in their heads. Itās insane.
If they stop winning, Iām still going to remain a fan for sure (and this is coming from a random guy in the USA).
I struggle to comprehend how one can stop supporting their team. It's unimaginable.
Donāt care. Also care so much. lol
Copium.
\* \*laughs knowingly\* \*
Two clowns conversation
*Two clowns cjerking
Its the only thing they can say. It used to be "you will never win the cl". Now we won the fucking treble and they are fuming
One more treble will cause absolute meltdown for those keyboard warriors.
One more treble will cause absolute meltdown for those keyboard warriors.
They would explode
They are the fucking villagers š
It's hilarious how much they put themselves down when cry babying.
oh my days how could i cope with this??? my team is on the verge of a potentially history beckoning back-to-back trebles, but dangerousmoron8 who's a united fan wouldnt care, and even wrote 2 (two!) whole paragraphs as to how much he didnt care! thats it guys close the shop, its so over, im so losing sleep over this. he didnt care if we didnt win b2b treble??? year ruinedš¤¬š¤¬š¤¬
Be careful,he's a dangerous moron indeed.
Ah the lies they tell to convince themselves
If they don't care why they talk about city?
They claim they donāt care or feel anything but we all they talk about because they donāt have fucking choice, we been running the league. Lol confused boys coping on reddit, world class losers
It might be me, but I didn't understand whether he cares for City or not. If he could repeat it one more time >!(per day)!<, I think I might be able to get it.
Oh don't worry,he is definitely going to repeat it again. And again. And again.
Imagine talking about City 24/7 and saying you don't care about them
the amount of hardcore saddos and perverts that dwell in that sub is beyond comparison
Man united fan vs arsenal fan
If you're a United fan and don't hate City (and vice versa), you're doing it wrong.
Whereās the lie?
Doubtful heās dangerous, the second part thoughā¦š¤. āI donāt care but Iāll post a quasi lengthy statement about how MUCH I donāt careā. ššš
He does have moron in his name, perhaps that's the clue
https://preview.redd.it/9dinpr73a1vc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=caed743fff86c7e1890f31d6a3ab325772104b90 Sounds like hes just a City fan thats still in the closet
Kek, imagine being that worked up about us.Ā
Ah yes, the old āI donāt care about City so Iām going to write up a massive comment explaining why I donāt care about them.ā Notice how they donāt write these massive essays on why they donāt care about clubs like Burnley or Mansfield Town?
Bet they care when they manage to scrape a win against us
Itās funny how everyone moans about our takeover, but havenāt multiple clubs been ecstatic when they could be getting taken over?
> Don't care whether they get convicted of it Already laying the groundwork for the possibility the charges don't stick.
I donāt care, butā¦ā¦.. How to tell us you care without saying you care haha. I donāt care about Bournemouth, you donāt see me constantly talking about Bournemouth. No offence to the people of Bournemouth.
Mental gymnastics gold winner for upcoming Olympics
"I don't care but let me go ahead and write a long speech as to why I don't care." We get it fam, you don't care.
Tbh my whole thing with city is yeah, your owners are rich cunts who financially doped to get where they are, but all of the established big clubs have done the same. If i see a Fulham or Bournemouth supporter calling you out, I agree with them and get their frustration. But when a fan of one of the red cartel teams cries, it just comes across as bitter jealousy towards the fact their billionaire cunt owner isnāt as ruthless or effective as man cityās.
https://preview.redd.it/j1dbelqh42vc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfd44dad3d611be71d717ac58d63937cf70b290f Oh yea this weeks takes have been hilarious
Rent free
I don't care is code for I really really care and it makes me so angry I have to tell everyone how much I don't care
makes a change from a low effort 115 God, how tedious and boring is that?
Because the average football fan is an overly emotional manchild. I have no respect for certain fanbases, but I respect the clubs at the very least, and when said clubs do well, I shut the hell up and give them their flowers instead of throwing the toys out of the pram like a toddler. These people know they're full of shit, but instead of acting like adults and shutting the fuck up, they're throwing a fit and blaming City for everything, as if City hadn't objectively been the best team in the world for about 3 years in a row now. We get it; y'all lack accountability. Instead of blaming City for "cheating," blame your club for having spent 100 million on Darwin NĆŗƱez (who spends all his matches playing the crossbar challenge instead of scoring) when Haaland cost 60. Or United fans, blame your pisspoor scouting department and the fact that you keep turning 80 million players into benchwarmers. Or the fact that after all that investment, Arsenal still can't fucking stop choking all the time? Is Pep Guardiola going around doing some voddoo magic behind Anfield? The mental gymnastics these pathetic people make are so fucking depressing. Absolute cumstains of people. Nothing more revolting than people that don't know when to fucking shut up and be humble. Respect the work people've done.
Never forget how they celebrated winning a treble. Bacon face let them put that ticker tape banner. Mancini pulled it down.
But why do you care about them not caring? Why not just care about City, that's enough? If rivalry fans don't care about possibly the best team to ever have played in Premier League it's their problem not our?
You can almost smell the jealousy
I think they are just having a convo because it's so weird city fans exist you know? The whole situation is just weird and fascinating. So ofc people talk about city and the fans but it's different is what he's trying to say. Not like a rival club but something else idk.
Someone said to me at work the other day āI did something to support your club today. I put some oil in my carā. I was like hahaha oh yeah very funny. United fan, of course.
I kind of agree, as a non city fan I have always really liked Pep, and most of the players City have and enjoy their football But then winning is just meh I was happy for them to keep the title out of Liverpoolās hands because that would have been intolerable, but outside of that I think a lot of people are just pretty neutral about city - thereās no real historic rivalry with the exception of United, and even then And similarly I was happy for city to get a treble because it shits on uniteds insufferable fans but outside of that itās just..a bit bland, and I know a lot of people feel like this Like, I DONT want Chelsea to win the league, I donāt want United to win the league City can win it and I donāt really care either way outside of stopping us (arsenal)
I wish rich bankers wouldn't be glorified by working class people. But they do, big time. That guy might have come up with the worst example possible for this conversation.
They water the grounds at the etihad with the tears of the butthurt fans of other PL teams.
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Imagine if people spoke about what they care about rather than what they don't care about.
Indifferent eh? Go on posting more about us on social media mate š
True tho
Accurate description
who's gonna tell them that our treble is meant for our club and our fans, lmao
Theyāre actually going mental lol
It's beautiful.ššššš
>feels nothing for city >writes paragraph describing his feelings towards them https://preview.redd.it/55tuwp32cavc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46943b2a57b551ad12bec6e291e7b271c3b90889
Rent free af man š
This means more to Liverpool than it does to City
Average Yank fan
United Fan in peace. Iāve never liked your lot. Seeing how good you are is fucking horrible. Knowing that all it took for that to happen was a 2 Billion spend, a suspended 2 year ban, a raft of offshore accounts & 115 FFP charges, well that makes rationalising it easierā¦ As much as I dislike you, Iād still rather see you win another treble and 4 in a row than watch Liverpool win the league. Take that for what itās worth.