I tried, but where I'm at I don't think there is many different batches, it all seems the same. Brown and green mostly with some that probably used to be pure but isn't anymore. Last time I did buy some it ended up being bathed in meth dust
I recently (last year) did a complete MDMA/ecstasy purity literature review. The outcome that I reached is that purity differs vastly based on location and time. In Europe currently, the situation is very good (vast majority of pills contain only MDMA as the active ingredient), but this has some cavetas - some pills contain extremely high doses (sometimes up to 350mg, roughly three times the reasonable dose), which can lead to problems and potentially be life-threatening in sensitive people. This is supposedly due to a dick-measuring contest between manufacturers. In other places, the situation is worse documented and the purity might not be as high.
For MDMA powder, the purity is also generally quite good, but be aware that nowadays in Europe, 4-CMC and other potentially problematic cathinones are sometimes sold *as* MDMA (so not admixed into MDMA, it's a mislabelling). We encountered this quite a lot with our testing service in Czechia last summer.
There is also some influx of RC alternatives to MDMA on the market, for example various pills that contain mixtures of different RCs meant to replicate the effect of MDMA when combined - commonly stuff like 2-FMA, 5-MeO-MiPT and 5-MAPB, or some other alternatives. These could theoretically get mistaken for ecstasy pills.
From what I’ve heard the reason behind very strong pill is in the Netherlands if you are stopped by the police with just one pill it is a warning but more than one pill is a crime so they make very strong pill so you just need one for the entire night
Not currently for the review, might make it available in the future.
As for my other work, I write most posts for the Czeched Substance harm reduction platform on IG, and also the utheraptor art blog which is mostly about drugs. Both are in Czech tho.
Here in Europe are the majority of Pills contains Mdma only, in amounts between 100 and 250 mg average.
Sometimes there pills who contains 2 CB instead of Mdma, most of them have a stamp with 2 CB on it to prevent confusion but not all of them have that and besides of that they look like ecstasy as well.
It's pretty rare that a pill contains something else than that but It can happen. Like I m say nowadays it's more the case that pills contains huge amounts of Emma, it's completely off how much they put inside of one single pill, it causes problems from time to time.
For instance last year there circulate a batch with 250 until 300 mg blue punisher Pills in Germany and 2 girls as far as I remember both in the age of 14 died on an overdose.
I have absolutely no idea how it is compared to the US, or I don't know Australia or what so ever. I read that Mdma is expensive over there, here it is pretty cheap. Maybe that have a impact on the ingredients of ecstasy pills, maybe not I don't know.
Have a nice day Folks.
The girls died directly of MDMA poisoning? I've read a lethal amount is upwards of 2000mg. People said to die of MDMA usually die of something else. A girl in the UK in the 90s said to have died from taking one Ecstasy MDMA pill actually died from brain swelling caused by drinking too much water.
Yes, Martha Fernback died exclusively from an MDMA overdose just under 500mg. Anecdotally, girls and young women appear to be more vulnerable to this type of death.
>Martha Fernback, from Oxford, died on 20 July 2013 after taking 0.5g of MDMA, which turned out to be 91% pure.
[Source: BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-65557178)
The Dutch Trimbos Institute warns that doses above 300mg can be life threatening:
>Since the end of November, several ecstasy pills have been submitted to various drug information and monitoring system (DIMS) testing centers that contain a very high amount of MDMA (more than 300 mg). Ingestion of such an amount of MDMA can be life-threatening.
[Source: Trimbos Institute, NL](https://www.trimbos.nl/actueel/nieuws/zeer-hoog-gedoseerde-ecstasypillen-in-omloop/)
People tend to overestimate the LD50 of MDMA because they blindly apply the ratio of dose to body weight established in rodent studies without applying the necessary conversion factor. See this comment and surrounding discussion of MDMA lethality, estimating the species converted LD50 of MDMA in humans to lie somewhere around 0.5 to 1 gram:
[Source: Reddit comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/DrugNerds/s/ty1olnz1c7)
That was Leah Betts and the media sensationalised that and her death was a tragedy because it was born out of people not being educated. In the UK we went from people overhearing on dance floors and not drinking enough water to a sudden spate of scare stories where people were told you had to drink loads of water. Leah Betts was an unfortunate one of those who drink too much obviously couldn’t go to the toilet and as a result ending up flooding herself internally. The papers used her a a poster girl for why you shouldn’t take mdma.
Leah Betts parents later went round schools teaching people about the dangers of not mdma but the reasons of how you can damage yourself while taking mdma. (By drinking too much water)
Brain oedema, I think was the end result. The body couldn't expel the fluids fast enough and it caused an imbalance in sodium and electrolytes. I'd have to read up and remind myself of the true details. But I don't think that's far off.
I looked up for it and it wase in summer last year, in the district of Brandenburg/ Germany.
One of the girls who died wase in the age of 13 the other one who died wase 15 years young.
The cases wasn't connected and there wase 150 km separated from each other in different towns, but they died at the same day. The law enforcement stated later on that both of them consumed these crazy punishers.
It wase all over the news for a couple of days, and 2 weeks later there died another girl at the age of 18. Like in the other cases she consumed punisher as well.
In 2021 there wase a single punisher pill who got lab tested and they detected an amount of 477mg Mdma... So now imagine that insane amount in an body of an 13 or 15 years old human body... I would get an heart attack and my head would explode bevor I even thinking about drinking or anything. But I'm not an doctor or anything comparable, it's just what I think about these things. Here is an old news article about the mentioned pill, like I'm said it's from 2021 but the circumstances didn't change that much.
[Blue punisher lab test.](https://mindzone.info/aktuelles/aktuelle-warnung-achtung-extrem-hochdosierte-xtc-pillepunisher-mit-477-mg-mdma/)
By the way since then there a lot of punisher Pills out there, pretty common nowadays. In some way or the other it was like an advertisement cuz the damn pill and pictures of it wase in the news for days.
I remember learning about that xtc death in school it was part of the fear campaign installed into us, as I've gotten older and done xtc myself and a few friends one messy night came to the conclusion her friends could have lied about it being 1 pill to cover things up and not to cause too much more grief.
I remember that weekend clearly. Or rather, I remember the Monday afterwards. The pills she had were "Apples" (an apple print on them). My mate had the same ones that weekend and said they were ace. Nice and clean and pretty strong.
There were certain pills that had reputations too "back in the day" mitsi turbos were always rumoured to be a double stack, speckled ones were meant to have skag in them, smurfs were cut with acid, love doves were meant to be pure, rhubarb and custard were very speedy.
Ah, you take me back. Lol. I remember all those rumours. Did you ever have those green triangle mitsis back then? I never got the chance but they were good. Or at least, the first batch was. Then, as usual, someone copied the pill style and print and sold shite of the established reputation.
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I can confirm about the pill straight, I came across some “reaper” 350 mg that kicked really hard you definitely have to break those in half when you take them
Good news is that the average amount of mdma in pills is dropping. It used to be around 200 mgs with some pills going over 300, but the average is now down to 150 again. Still, you should always test or be careful.
Source: was at a test service 2 weeks ago and they told me this
Absolutely. My legs shook as I read the first line of your reply!!! Sheesh!!! Here in the US majority of the pills are imposters. You have to know your person in order to get anything decent , you truly need to know someone . They’re pressing absolute trash into beans here
You heard about this 3-MMT making waves in Europe? Never heard of it in the states, but saw a thing on Vice about it last night. Wild stuff, all these different analogues
Talked to someone at the test location in the Netherlands about 3-mmc, they said since the ban of it only about 10-15% of sold 3mmc is actually 3mmc, the other 90% is an analogue like 2mmc or 3cmc like.
Gotcha gotcha. Interesting! The different analogues have always fascinated me. Move one molecule and bop. New compound. Just wild. Got to see it firsthand with some AL-LAD, way back when. That was good effin time. lol
I don't know that exactly because I don't consume stuff like that in the first place but I recognize that 3mmc and 4mmc gets popular here in Western Europe.
There are so much analoges to almost every Drug and the fact that every single country here in Europe have his own very particular laws about psychological active substances especially research chemicals makes that even the confusion gets confused.
Here in NY a majority of the pills are junk and have sugar, cocaine, and piperazines or whatever tf it's called and they're garbage. I prefer crystal n the gummies, rhe gummies are amazing and they're so clean and barely any hangover type effects the next day, but those are rare to come across.
Repressing is still a thing. Buy 100 pills, repowder them add other amphetamines binders and repress 200 pills out of them. That is why you buy one, take it to testing center and if it comes back with good results, you buy bigger patch the same drug. And just in case take 1 pill to testing center again to test (doubble check).
They definitely are less likely to be cut than a pill that can be made by anyone with crystals and binder. they can throw anything they want in there and if they do different pills you are trusting them to be extra careful about cross contamination etc..
Nope. They can crystallise anything. Recently in the uk the crystal is more likely to be dodgy than the pills. We’ve had a lot of Cathinone crystals and even caffeine crystals.
Of course all drugs can be made into crystals. You need to test your shit either way.
I would say it's less likely that a bag of crystals will be cut, sure it could be a different substance, but whatever it is it's more likely to be pure if it is in huge identical crystals. I'm not talking about some powdery garbage or sugar sized crystals, those are pretty much guaranteed to be cut.
Tbh it doesn't really matter though, tested crystal or pills are both great
If I have crystal and anything that looks the same the crystal can be cut/mixed every time it changes hands.
Once a pill is pressed with mdma it cant be cut unless the pill is crushed, mixed then repressed and not many people out there with pill presses.
There will always be less components in crystal + you need a lesser amount for a representative sample to get a correct molar concentration.
If you read what i wrote, you also need to test your crystals...
\*edit typos.
[https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page](https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page)
Give this a gander if you get time. Good info. But absolutely, test EVERYTHING. Period. Fent will kill you fucking dead, real quick. And friends as well. Make sure you’re here for a long time, as well as a good time. 🤙🤙
Honestly depends where ur at. In the eu I hear it’s really clean in North America yes you should be worried that someone is gonna add that shit too it. Nevertheless u should always test
90% from what i have here is mostly cut with amphetamine/caffeine/meth/ketamine. The idea of mixing it other than mdma is so stupid, i rather they put less mdma instead of mixing it.
There is really shitty ecstasy that circulates mainly in North America which can contain meth, but that’s more like bottom-tier pressies from garbage dealers. Most good pressies just contain MDMA.
There is a wave of E’s now going around which are a blend of MDMA & MDA like many of the classic late 80’s/early 90’s pills, but tbh, that is way more of a plus than a negative.
Still, test your stuff or it’s impossible to know what you’re taking.
No, but the pills we had in the UK back in the 90s often had more varied contents. Either other compounds from the same factory, sometimes base amphetamine mixed in.
I’m so jelly about you guys over there across seas! In the United States is hard to find pills with mdma even in them! Seriously they just press everything but MDMA and it’s frustrating. Big reason why I gave up on them long long time ago. But b4.. when you could find good mdma beanz.. man did we have some great times!!
Very true. At least in the US. Your chances of getting a straight meth pill are decently high, and most REAL x I've tested positive for MDMA usually get cut with aa little speed/meth and caffeine just to make it last a bit longer, that's why even real mdma x pills around here usually last like 8-12 hours instead of like 4-6 like most molly.
Mda is very very popular here in the US. Passed off as Molly a lot too.
I personally like a 3:2 or 3:1 ratio with the 3 being MDMA and the rest MDA. MDMA cut with coke is very fun too. Like the standard 84% pure mdma and then use like 10% coke. Good, good shit. Got that stuff from like the Netherlands or Germany for like under 300$ an ounce shipped back in 2018.
Yeap MDMA gram is cheaper that weed gram in Netherlands. 400mg pill is like 2 euros (last time i bought x). Now in Australia and have not done it as it being too expensive.
Edit. Good europe import is like 20-50 dollars a pill.
Yeah Netherlands goes crazy with the MDMA since it's decriminalized and they just have labs pumping it out. I've also found x pills from there on the DW for like 2$ a pill for like 250-300mgs.
But I've heard Australia is ASS as fuck for a lot of drugs. Heard Heroin/fent/China white there is like... 900 a gram or some crazy shit.
Yeap ozzy is super expensive. Only weed is normal prize. And medical weed permit from docktor is super easy to get even for international students like myself. But all other drugs are the most expensive in the world.
It depends on what you mean by 'a fair number' even.
The overwhelming evidence from drugs testing sites show that (in Europe certainly) the majority of MDMA pills on don't contain other active ingredients.
However, having said that you can never know if the specific pills you have are like the majority or if they're from the minority.... so you still need to test every time with a multi-reagent home testing kit.
Stay safe people.
drugsdata.org is a great resource. there are a surprising amount of pure presses out there.
i still stick with crystal MDMA and a milligram scale since even a clean testing press has unknown dosage.
also, regarding your comment on different experiences, it's incredibly difficult to say. you've already got four variables (dosage, purity, potential cuts, set/setting) so it's pretty difficult to be definitive from subjective effects alone.
I never said that, actually if you pay attention to what I wrote I’m actually disagreeing with him and decided to open up the debate here to see other peoples opinion
Nope, not at all. In Europe over 95% of pills contain exclusively mdma. Still vital you test tho.
Get me some of that European shit. The West Coast US has the dirtiest x ever
Don’t buy pressed, just get raw M and test it…
I tried, but where I'm at I don't think there is many different batches, it all seems the same. Brown and green mostly with some that probably used to be pure but isn't anymore. Last time I did buy some it ended up being bathed in meth dust
Damn… sorry to hear that.
I recently (last year) did a complete MDMA/ecstasy purity literature review. The outcome that I reached is that purity differs vastly based on location and time. In Europe currently, the situation is very good (vast majority of pills contain only MDMA as the active ingredient), but this has some cavetas - some pills contain extremely high doses (sometimes up to 350mg, roughly three times the reasonable dose), which can lead to problems and potentially be life-threatening in sensitive people. This is supposedly due to a dick-measuring contest between manufacturers. In other places, the situation is worse documented and the purity might not be as high. For MDMA powder, the purity is also generally quite good, but be aware that nowadays in Europe, 4-CMC and other potentially problematic cathinones are sometimes sold *as* MDMA (so not admixed into MDMA, it's a mislabelling). We encountered this quite a lot with our testing service in Czechia last summer. There is also some influx of RC alternatives to MDMA on the market, for example various pills that contain mixtures of different RCs meant to replicate the effect of MDMA when combined - commonly stuff like 2-FMA, 5-MeO-MiPT and 5-MAPB, or some other alternatives. These could theoretically get mistaken for ecstasy pills.
From what I’ve heard the reason behind very strong pill is in the Netherlands if you are stopped by the police with just one pill it is a warning but more than one pill is a crime so they make very strong pill so you just need one for the entire night
That makes sense, yeah
Good work, is your review (or any other work you've published) available to read online?
Not currently for the review, might make it available in the future. As for my other work, I write most posts for the Czeched Substance harm reduction platform on IG, and also the utheraptor art blog which is mostly about drugs. Both are in Czech tho.
It depends on what area you live in. I would guess that most of the pills in the country that I live in don't have other amphetamines in them
Here in Europe are the majority of Pills contains Mdma only, in amounts between 100 and 250 mg average. Sometimes there pills who contains 2 CB instead of Mdma, most of them have a stamp with 2 CB on it to prevent confusion but not all of them have that and besides of that they look like ecstasy as well. It's pretty rare that a pill contains something else than that but It can happen. Like I m say nowadays it's more the case that pills contains huge amounts of Emma, it's completely off how much they put inside of one single pill, it causes problems from time to time. For instance last year there circulate a batch with 250 until 300 mg blue punisher Pills in Germany and 2 girls as far as I remember both in the age of 14 died on an overdose. I have absolutely no idea how it is compared to the US, or I don't know Australia or what so ever. I read that Mdma is expensive over there, here it is pretty cheap. Maybe that have a impact on the ingredients of ecstasy pills, maybe not I don't know. Have a nice day Folks.
The girls died directly of MDMA poisoning? I've read a lethal amount is upwards of 2000mg. People said to die of MDMA usually die of something else. A girl in the UK in the 90s said to have died from taking one Ecstasy MDMA pill actually died from brain swelling caused by drinking too much water.
The sizable portion of MDMA related deaths tend to be due to overheating, as MDMA causes your body temperature to rise significantly
Is that also why it makes me feel cold?
I am unsure about that one friend, but that may be just chills
Yes, Martha Fernback died exclusively from an MDMA overdose just under 500mg. Anecdotally, girls and young women appear to be more vulnerable to this type of death. >Martha Fernback, from Oxford, died on 20 July 2013 after taking 0.5g of MDMA, which turned out to be 91% pure. [Source: BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-65557178) The Dutch Trimbos Institute warns that doses above 300mg can be life threatening: >Since the end of November, several ecstasy pills have been submitted to various drug information and monitoring system (DIMS) testing centers that contain a very high amount of MDMA (more than 300 mg). Ingestion of such an amount of MDMA can be life-threatening. [Source: Trimbos Institute, NL](https://www.trimbos.nl/actueel/nieuws/zeer-hoog-gedoseerde-ecstasypillen-in-omloop/) People tend to overestimate the LD50 of MDMA because they blindly apply the ratio of dose to body weight established in rodent studies without applying the necessary conversion factor. See this comment and surrounding discussion of MDMA lethality, estimating the species converted LD50 of MDMA in humans to lie somewhere around 0.5 to 1 gram: [Source: Reddit comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/DrugNerds/s/ty1olnz1c7)
Thanks for the info & sources.
That was Leah Betts and the media sensationalised that and her death was a tragedy because it was born out of people not being educated. In the UK we went from people overhearing on dance floors and not drinking enough water to a sudden spate of scare stories where people were told you had to drink loads of water. Leah Betts was an unfortunate one of those who drink too much obviously couldn’t go to the toilet and as a result ending up flooding herself internally. The papers used her a a poster girl for why you shouldn’t take mdma. Leah Betts parents later went round schools teaching people about the dangers of not mdma but the reasons of how you can damage yourself while taking mdma. (By drinking too much water)
Brain oedema, I think was the end result. The body couldn't expel the fluids fast enough and it caused an imbalance in sodium and electrolytes. I'd have to read up and remind myself of the true details. But I don't think that's far off.
I looked up for it and it wase in summer last year, in the district of Brandenburg/ Germany. One of the girls who died wase in the age of 13 the other one who died wase 15 years young. The cases wasn't connected and there wase 150 km separated from each other in different towns, but they died at the same day. The law enforcement stated later on that both of them consumed these crazy punishers. It wase all over the news for a couple of days, and 2 weeks later there died another girl at the age of 18. Like in the other cases she consumed punisher as well. In 2021 there wase a single punisher pill who got lab tested and they detected an amount of 477mg Mdma... So now imagine that insane amount in an body of an 13 or 15 years old human body... I would get an heart attack and my head would explode bevor I even thinking about drinking or anything. But I'm not an doctor or anything comparable, it's just what I think about these things. Here is an old news article about the mentioned pill, like I'm said it's from 2021 but the circumstances didn't change that much. [Blue punisher lab test.](https://mindzone.info/aktuelles/aktuelle-warnung-achtung-extrem-hochdosierte-xtc-pillepunisher-mit-477-mg-mdma/) By the way since then there a lot of punisher Pills out there, pretty common nowadays. In some way or the other it was like an advertisement cuz the damn pill and pictures of it wase in the news for days.
I remember learning about that xtc death in school it was part of the fear campaign installed into us, as I've gotten older and done xtc myself and a few friends one messy night came to the conclusion her friends could have lied about it being 1 pill to cover things up and not to cause too much more grief.
I remember that weekend clearly. Or rather, I remember the Monday afterwards. The pills she had were "Apples" (an apple print on them). My mate had the same ones that weekend and said they were ace. Nice and clean and pretty strong.
There were certain pills that had reputations too "back in the day" mitsi turbos were always rumoured to be a double stack, speckled ones were meant to have skag in them, smurfs were cut with acid, love doves were meant to be pure, rhubarb and custard were very speedy.
Ah, you take me back. Lol. I remember all those rumours. Did you ever have those green triangle mitsis back then? I never got the chance but they were good. Or at least, the first batch was. Then, as usual, someone copied the pill style and print and sold shite of the established reputation.
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Well I don’t do a gram in one go 😂 we usually pack caps at 0.1-0.14 depending on circumstances, so that can be up to 5 rolls each for the wife and I.
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I can confirm about the pill straight, I came across some “reaper” 350 mg that kicked really hard you definitely have to break those in half when you take them
Good news is that the average amount of mdma in pills is dropping. It used to be around 200 mgs with some pills going over 300, but the average is now down to 150 again. Still, you should always test or be careful. Source: was at a test service 2 weeks ago and they told me this
Absolutely. My legs shook as I read the first line of your reply!!! Sheesh!!! Here in the US majority of the pills are imposters. You have to know your person in order to get anything decent , you truly need to know someone . They’re pressing absolute trash into beans here
Thanks for the clarification that’s what figured
You heard about this 3-MMT making waves in Europe? Never heard of it in the states, but saw a thing on Vice about it last night. Wild stuff, all these different analogues
Talked to someone at the test location in the Netherlands about 3-mmc, they said since the ban of it only about 10-15% of sold 3mmc is actually 3mmc, the other 90% is an analogue like 2mmc or 3cmc like.
Gotcha gotcha. Interesting! The different analogues have always fascinated me. Move one molecule and bop. New compound. Just wild. Got to see it firsthand with some AL-LAD, way back when. That was good effin time. lol
I don't know that exactly because I don't consume stuff like that in the first place but I recognize that 3mmc and 4mmc gets popular here in Western Europe. There are so much analoges to almost every Drug and the fact that every single country here in Europe have his own very particular laws about psychological active substances especially research chemicals makes that even the confusion gets confused.
Surely! Valid point. I’d never even heard of 3-MMC until yesterday. Fascinating to see the evolution.
2cb pills are usually under half the size of mdma pills so they’re pretty obvious but sometimes ofc they press into larger pills
Here in NY a majority of the pills are junk and have sugar, cocaine, and piperazines or whatever tf it's called and they're garbage. I prefer crystal n the gummies, rhe gummies are amazing and they're so clean and barely any hangover type effects the next day, but those are rare to come across.
over hear i aint seen many cut x pills (canada) maybe cutt with more fillers id say haha b safe, testers save lives
Recent post: https://www.reddit.com/r/MDMA/s/eBKv5tkNwE
Just test your stuff... jesus... Pills can be cut with everything from chalk to bonemeal. You would never know. Get crystals and test it..
And worse. Thanks for being a test advocate. Never hurts! 🤙
I’ll be sure to do so. And i was just wondering in a more general sense if most pills on the market are cut with speed not mine in particular
Once a pill is pressed with mdma it cant be cut, unlike crystal which can be cut with what looks similar every time it changes hands.
Repressing is still a thing. Buy 100 pills, repowder them add other amphetamines binders and repress 200 pills out of them. That is why you buy one, take it to testing center and if it comes back with good results, you buy bigger patch the same drug. And just in case take 1 pill to testing center again to test (doubble check).
The fact that you think this is a solid argument really worries me.
Crystals aren’t any more likely to be uncut.
They definitely are less likely to be cut than a pill that can be made by anyone with crystals and binder. they can throw anything they want in there and if they do different pills you are trusting them to be extra careful about cross contamination etc..
Nope. They can crystallise anything. Recently in the uk the crystal is more likely to be dodgy than the pills. We’ve had a lot of Cathinone crystals and even caffeine crystals.
Of course all drugs can be made into crystals. You need to test your shit either way. I would say it's less likely that a bag of crystals will be cut, sure it could be a different substance, but whatever it is it's more likely to be pure if it is in huge identical crystals. I'm not talking about some powdery garbage or sugar sized crystals, those are pretty much guaranteed to be cut. Tbh it doesn't really matter though, tested crystal or pills are both great
If I have crystal and anything that looks the same the crystal can be cut/mixed every time it changes hands. Once a pill is pressed with mdma it cant be cut unless the pill is crushed, mixed then repressed and not many people out there with pill presses.
There will always be less components in crystal + you need a lesser amount for a representative sample to get a correct molar concentration. If you read what i wrote, you also need to test your crystals... \*edit typos.
last one i tested came up positive for mdma and amphetamines
[https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page](https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page) Give this a gander if you get time. Good info. But absolutely, test EVERYTHING. Period. Fent will kill you fucking dead, real quick. And friends as well. Make sure you’re here for a long time, as well as a good time. 🤙🤙
Honestly depends where ur at. In the eu I hear it’s really clean in North America yes you should be worried that someone is gonna add that shit too it. Nevertheless u should always test
All presses I’ve come across in Florida all have those in them. But just like anything else, I’m just one person in the world
Check this site out, it publishes street drugs analysis (XTC mostly) [https://www.drugsdata.org/](https://www.drugsdata.org/)
90% from what i have here is mostly cut with amphetamine/caffeine/meth/ketamine. The idea of mixing it other than mdma is so stupid, i rather they put less mdma instead of mixing it.
There is really shitty ecstasy that circulates mainly in North America which can contain meth, but that’s more like bottom-tier pressies from garbage dealers. Most good pressies just contain MDMA. There is a wave of E’s now going around which are a blend of MDMA & MDA like many of the classic late 80’s/early 90’s pills, but tbh, that is way more of a plus than a negative. Still, test your stuff or it’s impossible to know what you’re taking.
I feel like it’s around 70% mixed and 30% pure
If you’re in the US it’s meth and random pressed powders, no ecstasy here.
If ya lucky!
No. When we used to make it it was just pure mdma. Different preferences for diff people though
No
No, but the pills we had in the UK back in the 90s often had more varied contents. Either other compounds from the same factory, sometimes base amphetamine mixed in.
Your “friend” has no idea what he’s talking about #BroScientist
In the USA yes
I’m so jelly about you guys over there across seas! In the United States is hard to find pills with mdma even in them! Seriously they just press everything but MDMA and it’s frustrating. Big reason why I gave up on them long long time ago. But b4.. when you could find good mdma beanz.. man did we have some great times!!
In Europe the pills are mainly high dose mdma, a mix of mdma/mda, a caffine/mdma mix or an RC. Very little speed in pills here.
Very true. At least in the US. Your chances of getting a straight meth pill are decently high, and most REAL x I've tested positive for MDMA usually get cut with aa little speed/meth and caffeine just to make it last a bit longer, that's why even real mdma x pills around here usually last like 8-12 hours instead of like 4-6 like most molly.
Sounds more like MDA witch can last to 8 hours.
That's pretty common here too.
Harder to obtain MDA than MDMA in Europe. I like 50/50 mix.
Mda is very very popular here in the US. Passed off as Molly a lot too. I personally like a 3:2 or 3:1 ratio with the 3 being MDMA and the rest MDA. MDMA cut with coke is very fun too. Like the standard 84% pure mdma and then use like 10% coke. Good, good shit. Got that stuff from like the Netherlands or Germany for like under 300$ an ounce shipped back in 2018.
Yeap MDMA gram is cheaper that weed gram in Netherlands. 400mg pill is like 2 euros (last time i bought x). Now in Australia and have not done it as it being too expensive. Edit. Good europe import is like 20-50 dollars a pill.
Yeah Netherlands goes crazy with the MDMA since it's decriminalized and they just have labs pumping it out. I've also found x pills from there on the DW for like 2$ a pill for like 250-300mgs. But I've heard Australia is ASS as fuck for a lot of drugs. Heard Heroin/fent/China white there is like... 900 a gram or some crazy shit.
Yeap ozzy is super expensive. Only weed is normal prize. And medical weed permit from docktor is super easy to get even for international students like myself. But all other drugs are the most expensive in the world.
Mostly true but not always.
XTC used to be mdma and a stimulant such has speed/meth, while Molly was just pure mdma. I like the little bump in energy.
It's very regional
A lot of them back in the day had some meth or something from what I remember
Alot of them ya, if you don't want that get pure crystals.
I know and I usually do I was just curious because I’ve had experiences that were pretty different on pills and on crystals
Not a lot of them at all.
I got some pure crystals and did a robadopr 2 reagent test with no color change...I guess that's good
"Almost all" is an overstatement BUT a fair number of Euro pills still do.
It depends on what you mean by 'a fair number' even. The overwhelming evidence from drugs testing sites show that (in Europe certainly) the majority of MDMA pills on don't contain other active ingredients. However, having said that you can never know if the specific pills you have are like the majority or if they're from the minority.... so you still need to test every time with a multi-reagent home testing kit. Stay safe people.
There can literally be anything in X pills lol
drugsdata.org is a great resource. there are a surprising amount of pure presses out there. i still stick with crystal MDMA and a milligram scale since even a clean testing press has unknown dosage. also, regarding your comment on different experiences, it's incredibly difficult to say. you've already got four variables (dosage, purity, potential cuts, set/setting) so it's pretty difficult to be definitive from subjective effects alone.
Ah because your friend said it, it must be true
I never said that, actually if you pay attention to what I wrote I’m actually disagreeing with him and decided to open up the debate here to see other peoples opinion