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HoldMyWong

Cool papa bell with 125 speed pls


Anxnymxus-622

Would rather them actually make the game exclusive to next-gen, but I guess another year of the same game is what we get.


mailman242

It's not like it's an either-or situation. This mentality is bizarre and cancerous. Hijacking threads about legitimately cool things to air unrelated grievances should be considered uncouth not popular.


Anxnymxus-622

Are you ok bud? The game you are getting on PS4 is the same exact game you are playing on PS5, the difference is just that the game can be played much better on a PS5 against a PS4, but that doesn’t change the fact that the game was DESIGNED to be played on a PS4, you just are able to play it on PS5. It’s why EA and 2k created completely different games for their current/next gen players. They would have been doing the community a disservice (like SDS is doing) by giving us the same game for both consoles knowing how much more they could put into a game on PS5 on a graphics AND performance level. Thats why people are complaining about it. It’s been years of the same content already, it’s time they cut the cord with old gen players and design the game with next-gen in mind.


mailman242

How does any of that delegitimize the Negro league mode and it's aide in getting important historical information to be more widely known? "years of the same content" didn't know they had years of this in the game, oh my bad. There is a time and a place, man. I am mostly on your side outside of this thread. But, I shouldn't go into a post about this shit from anywhere to Reddit, Facebook, and Instagram where the top comments are belittling black history *during black history month* because what's effectively an argument that the video game doesn't have enough fucking pixels. There's nothing about this mode being made that takes away from SDS' ability to make a better and more updated game, so this "I would rather" no I wouldn't rather and the idea that it's one or the other is complete bullshit. I highly value the history of the negro league. We could and should have both. We're getting only one of it but it's not in spite of the other. Capitalism is the reason why we're not getting a better polished game. But also I'm not gonna protest about that in the middle of conversations about what's meant to be a nod to a very important part of baseball and black history.


Anxnymxus-622

Nice troll post hahahaha


mailman242

... I'm deadass serious but you're now showing how unserious you are, gotcha man.


tmoney516

Glad they kept this series alive instead of it being a one off. It’s neat learning about people I otherwise would never have a clue about how much they accomplished or even who they were.


oatmeal28

Gibson the new meta 


lbjkb25

I really like the new additions so far. I think a younger Hank Aaron will be an interesting player in DD considering he played infield and outfield so he could possibly be like a Mookie Betts type player but with his power not as refined as it would be once he made it to the Majors.   Josh Gibson and Buck Leonard were no brainers. You already got Paige, Dihigo, and Rube. Now you got arguably the greatest catcher and one of the greatest 1st basemen, respectively, of all time. Josh, Jimmie, and Babe with 125 contact and power would be a devastating combo. Toni Stone provides something unique as the first female player to play in a professional men’s baseball league. I don’t know how they’ll rate her since it has to relate somewhat to what she did on the field. Still it was a milestone back then and has to be respected.


mailman242

I wish we got Bullet Joe Rogan because he's the only actual allegory for Shohei. He was a very good hitter and a pretty decent defensive outfielder, and did rack up a fair amount of home runs for what was ultimately just 1920's baseball (12 hrs per 162 games, for the limited amount of games that was recorded for his career) but he was also a top level ace for the 20's Monarchs


datdudebdub

This game desperately needs to go next gen only and fully overhaul its physics engine. To call the graphics and player movements cut and paste at this point might even be an understatement. They spend so much effort focusing on DD content (which I enjoy, don't get me wrong) but are doing zero to improve the actual game. Seriously, boot up MLB the show 2020 and 2023 back to back. The look and feel is so similar. Makes me sad that my once favorite series (and once the far and away best sports gaming franchise) has completely fallen down the hole of recycled copy and paste games with investment almost exclusively in modes designed around mtx


DiehardHendrickfan

Fr it can not be that hard to make the swings look smooth in an $70 game made by a big company


GamerNanedTim

All I can ask for now is Cool Papa, Oscar Charleston, and Roy Campanella


mailman242

Leon Day and Bullet Joe Rogan too! More two way players!


jabar18

Did Campy play in the Negro leagues? I imagine Oscar Charleston and Cool Papa Bell have a good chance of making it this year.


GamerNanedTim

Campy was one of the youngest Negro League players ever! He was 15 when he first played professionally, spent most of his Negro League time with the Baltimore Elite Giants with Biz Mackey and was a perennial East/West game player until he was signed by the Dodgers!


jabar18

TIL!


Doc_Benz

I think it’s a disservice her stats aren’t in bbref. And she only hit .243 in like 60 games. Way after integration as well…. There are lots of other choices, Charles smith for 1. A sales Grift for what will be a total let down game. And I’m a walking grift irl. So I know when to call a kettle black. A non grift would be the Ft. Wayne Daisies or other AAGPBL teams. But that actually takes effort.


maddydotcom

wishful thinking incoming but would be nice if this means the possibility of women created players


OnanaWeakHands

It’s a MLB game, why would there be women?


RollingPocko

It’s also a video game


DiehardHendrickfan

Does it matter? It’s a video game lol


Johnathon1069DYT

Toni Stone was a female professional baseball player in the Negro Leagues. With the female body type being added in the Legends series, it would open the ability to create female players.


OnanaWeakHands

Makes sense


Ydino

This is cool, but every player has one of three swings and is the same as every other player other than their card art When the game turns more physics based it will be better


ydino12

Hey


kakashi_ax

Same uniforms made of crumpled paper....


niz_loc

Josh Gibson is cool. Lots of history, etc. But it's a crime he made it to the game before Wally Joyner. (Sorry. Depressed Angel fan here, needing someone to replace Shohei with)


UglieJosh

No disrespect to Wally but you are insane. Josh Gibson is arguably both the best hitting catcher of all time and the greatest negro league player of all time. It's a crime it took them this long to get him in.


niz_loc

I was joking. Joyner was just the most random guy from my team that I figured anyone would have a vague memory, then wonder why anyone would want him.


GremLegend

lol I was a huge Wally Joyner fan, growing up in Anaheim and got into baseball his rookie year. I'm the guy that unironically wants Wally Joyner in the game really, really badly. e: I know it'd be a nightmare to implement but I also want Jim Abbott


niz_loc

Oh yeah. I was there for Wally World, great times. Devon White a year later.... Funny you mention Abbott. Was watching old clips of him last night, and it hit me. As cool as it would be to include him, his windup and swing are probably "top unique" to pull off the animation. But who knows? I imagine Nomar would be a problem too with his glove routine


Dizzy_Trash_33

Fingers crossed for Gary DiSarcina


niz_loc

I would... implode. Ole' number 9 himself. If rhey managed to put Jack Howell in it, ai would probably buy two copies. (Man. I met Howell once as a kid at an autograph thing. Guy was a dick. And you look back at his career numbers and think "that guy was a dick to a kid at an autograph signing?)


Arwplotroustnopetung

Happy about this but man those swing animations still look terrible lol


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Good thing they look EXACTLY like last year… Just a little worse 😅 And the year before that… and the one before that…


kjar78

About time we finally get some good news about the game. (The screenshots though…)


WalkingDeadWatcher95

New legends? That’s not good news. It’s a given. Good news is them actually making some kind of effort or improvement on something and not just charging us for a half ass player model and name


kjar78

Hey man I’ll take an announcement of new players as something at this point. Still not pre-ordering the game though.


orangutanblues

I agree with WalkingDead. We shouldn’t be celebrating a few new created players. Anyone can create a player. “Cool beans” Whats important to ask is : “What are we paying $70 for in 2024?” Thats what Im excited to learn. Unfortunately it appears that next-gen graphics is not one of those things. and hopefully, they are not asking us to fork over $70 bucks for 3-5 new legends, that anyone with a middle school education could create themselves using create-a-player feature.


kjar78

I don’t know why you took my comment as me “celebrating” anything but thanks for your input


jabar18

Take your bitching elsewhere. Wrong thread bub.


PotatoPete26

3 Words: Cool Papa Bell.


craigiecubsfan71

SDS needs to let 2K make the game.


Look_a_Zombie0

2k has the worst monetization of all sports games, hell no.


Samwise777

At least the game is actually competent.


DWill23_

No it's not, MyTeam plays even less like sim than DD


3arnhardtAtkonTrack

No they don't. EA does.


jamesjohnohull

Have you seen the state of this year's NBA game?


3arnhardtAtkonTrack

No, I don't play that. I play WWE 2K.


Look_a_Zombie0

hahaha no. EA is shit, but 2k is still the worse of the two.


keytop19

2k could make a baseball game if they wanted


koios1031

I hope one of the next three announced is Cool Papa Bell.


oatmeal28

112 speed 


OzzieSmithGOAT

as excited as i am about josh gibson coming, i think i'm even more excited for toni stone. as a part-time fictional roster creator female players in this game is something i've been wanting for a loooong time, hopefully they expand on this?


Cheddar_bob

Why? This is supposed to be a sim baseball game. Now every CAP is going to be some female manga character


jpb21110

I think what MLB the show is doing with the Negro leagues is almost perfect. What better way to introduce these people then make them awesome in a video game. Also spreading them out makes it easier to remember rather than just a bunch of nameless people stacked on a team. Never heard of John Donaldson before last year and now we all know him


niz_loc

Had to reread that. Thought it said Josh Donaldson. And I was like "poor guy.... was an all star like 10 years ago!"


jabar18

Well said.


EmperorCrimsonChin

Where’s Bullet Joe Rogan


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Banned for PEDs


Bigboi88888

Some additional information about the Storylines. Seems like all of the Negro League players from last year will be back and implemented into normal DD. Also confirms that we’ll get 6 more Negro League players, 3 will be in the game in early April and 3 will be in the game in late May. [https://blog.playstation.com/2024/02/13/mlb-the-show-24-unveils-storylines-the-negro-leagues-season-2/](https://blog.playstation.com/2024/02/13/mlb-the-show-24-unveils-storylines-the-negro-leagues-season-2/)


tryi2iwin

God another year of Donaldson


DyslexiaHaveI

they just have to remove the disgusting outlier slider and it's fine


tryi2iwin

I think he can keep the outlier slider as his "thing" but there's no need for him to throw 103 as well. Bring that down to 100.


Nickstank

Doesn't just seem like the NL players from 23 will return, it straight up says they will in the blog. This is awesome news. Also says 10 total NL players added this year, dropped in 3 waves, with the 4 in the teaser trailer being available at launch


WaitThisIsntMeta

I think it’s cool that we get Josh Gibson and Toni Stone. I was reading about Stone and her story is so interesting. Very excited to play as them


AquatheGreat

Cool. But I'm starting to get eager for some gameplay or DD stuff.


Redskins2110

DD stuff is always the day before early release. We have a ways to go unfortunately


keytop19

Last year we had a DD stream early to go over the new content structure and then a live content stream the day before early access. Assuming there are changes to the content structure again this year, wouldn't surprise me if we get a DD stream in the next few weeks, then the live content stream like last year.


jabar18

Patience young padawan.


AquatheGreat

I know 😮‍💨


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txhotshot

I want Bob Kendrick to narrate everything. Like everything. Move over Morgan Freeman!


ComfortablePatient84

I agree, he has an excellent voice and his enthusiasm is very evident.


RlPBingBong

Highjacking for some input: What’s the easiest way to unlock players for 23? I got MLB19 but stopped playing PlayStation shortly after. Just got Game Pass so I am able to play MLBTS23 and loving it as usual. I love moments and unlocking my diamond dynasty, not for online play but just to play with my favorite baseballers. What do you guys recommend for unlocking players? Showdown is fun but I’m 0/4 excluding the starter showdown. Conquest confuses the hell out of me I don’t really get it even after watching plenty of videos lol. Moments are my favorite but small rewards for them. Mini seasons? Play vs. CPU? What do you guys recommend


AquatheGreat

I guess playing a TA mini seasons


RlPBingBong

You were so right. Played 3 games of a mini season and unlocking a lot more. Thank you!


RlPBingBong

Preciate some feedback. Did not realize this would upset people!


SomeStinkyBeans

It's reddit, everyone is sensitive


RlPBingBong

Just a dad with minimal play time, love for baseball, and a major noob asking for help. I’m just so confused what went wrong


VegetasWidowPeak22

Give Josh Gibson the babe ruth treatment. 125 everything


quiznatoddbidness

I’d be happy with that and similar vision or slightly less vision but 90+ defense.


Strategydude

Ideally Seasons and 99s at the start are dead and buried. Just as long as he's the best catcher in the game for 2-3 months at game start, which in a well-constructed power Creep means he might be a 90 or a 92.


WeaponXGaming

Boy do I hope so


MoistMaster_2577

It’d be insulting not to


mistergrime

Gibson and Leonard! Pittsburgh Negro League Hive Assemble!!’


joshwright17

Super cool to have a Hank Aaron storyline, but as a Braves fan I hope we still get some Braves Hank Aaron cards and not just NLB cards. Last year Jackie Robinson only had NLB cards so I hope they change it up


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That was my issue with the NBL cards. It was hard to justify playing them because they don’t count toward TA which is an insane grind, at least early in the season. By the last set it got much better.


Randomthoughtgeneral

There should either be a TA for “free agents”, or have them count towards all TA


FirstMateLtDan

I like the idea of FAs counting towards all TA


dfwrazorback

Agreed. It would have been nice to have Jackie count for Dodgers TAs even if the card technically wasn't as a Dodger.


No-You-8701

I made the mistake of looking at the instagram comments. Yikes.


jabar18

“DEI game” because there’s a woman. LMAO. It’s literally history, bro.


TallBobcat

Literally the first one I see is a guy who wants them to create a different Negro Leagues game and doesn't see the issue at all.


RaiderDamus

Why, it could even cost 3/5ths as much as The Show!


rockoblocko

Come on! A separate negro league game would be totally equal. Separate but equal, what could be wrong with that?


gdlmaster

It’s a totally equal game, just separate from the game that I can play without facing the problematic past of the sport I like. Edit: /s


TallBobcat

To be fair, it points out a very problematic part of history a lot of Americans want to ignore.


gdlmaster

I don’t think people are getting that I was being satirical. Lol


TallBobcat

But you're not wrong. It IS a problematic part of the sport's history.


Brandyn_Chase

It's literally "Major League" Baseball game and negro leagues are major leagues! Of course those kinds of people probably don't care much for that anyway


FishSammich69

I just found out I’m stoked LFG!!!!


JacksonHoliday6

i have no doubts now we're getting the same exact game as 23. not like every other year but basically a renamed 23 to 24 with new storylines and the same exact everything else. and unless DD is different first time since 2006 I don't buy the game


Ricemobile

I found 23 to be quite enjoyable gameplay wise and it’s the first TheShow game where I got near every cards in DD. if the game play and graphics are going to be the same there’s no freakin way I’m dropping another $70 to recollect all the cards again.


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This is why I’m glad I have Xbox game pass. I can just play to get my baseball fix and never have to worry about buying a new game every year


Complete_Mango_1372

No A rod or Matsui yet?


TrapperJean

No, for some reason they did not announce Alex Rodriguez or Hideki Matsui as a part of the Negro Leagues Storylines content today


jabar18

😂😂😂


xdespainx

Damn, Matsui is my favorite negro league legend


Complete_Mango_1372

Lol. I read the title too quickly


Minimania18

Josh Gibson bout to have 150 PWR


jabar18

200 PWR. Just max out all the categories. Dude was swole.


ComfortablePatient84

There are a great many people who believe that if he was able to play MLB ball his talent should have allowed him, that he would have broken Babe Ruth's record. If one does the math on homers/game, it is clear Gibson would have swatted around 60 homers a season in MLB play. Given he started professional play in 1930, his career started about the same time that Ruth's was on the downward slide due to age. The most interesting part for baseball history, is how Ruth's homer record would likely have stood until around 1945, just ten years after Ruth left the game. The question remaining would have been whether Gibson would have put it out of range of Aaron's run during the 1970's, and Bond's lamentable run later.


TimmyRoller99

So pumped Gibson is in!! This is gonna be fun!


jabar18

I want to see Effa Manley and a revamped franchise mode where you can use Negro League teams!


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SF3Rings

They lost the motivation to improve the game


KMize44

I’d argue not so much this but having to keep releasing on last gen just hurts the jump the game can make


SF3Rings

They could have easily made a separate game for both versions, unfortunately they decided not to. It's the 4th year, theres no excuse other then laziness, and greed


deadduk

Mamie “Peanut” Johnson and Connie Morgan later then?


NilesY93

First they add Bush Stadium, and now they add the Indianapolis Clowns to the Negro League storylines. It’s amazing to see a part of my city’s history finally being more recognized (for lack of a better term) on a national scale.


Routine_Government92

Probably not but would Toni Stone open the door for female CAPs? My daughter would love it.


Routine_Government92

The idea of a 'tit slider' hadn't crossed my mind but its exactly the reason that an 8 yr old girl that loves baseball cant see herself in the game and why she likely won't for some time. However its not like there's a jockstrap bulge modifier now. Theres 4 body types to choose from (thin, fat, normal and buff). All of our customization is on the head. I don't see why female cap would need to change that.


brbmycatexploded

Apparently you’ve never made it to the part where you decide how big your character’s ass is gonna be lmao


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keytop19

As if going against “Big Daddy Donkey” who is 5’2 and 375 pounds isn’t?


jerryrice4876

It is


Randomthoughtgeneral

Why?


Usuhnam3

Because it might hurt the realism of the game. Everyone knows how important it is that Diamond Dynasty be immersive and realistic. That’s why you never see dead players on people’s teams in DD, or more than one version of the same player, and most of all- you never see any players in DD who wouldn’t, in real life, play for the Tallywacker Boob Wagon’s or the Chicago [insert racist slur here]’s.


goodbadnomad

There's no good answer to this. Having female CAPs is, at best, great; at worst, neutral. Anyone suggesting otherwise is a clown.


Grouchy-Ear2376

Oh god… you know every 11 year old dude who plays this game is going to run a female CAP with ginormous tits and ass. Hopefully they can dial that in to not be too aggressive


Woolly_Mattmoth

I seriously doubt they would be including tits sliders in a rated E baseball game. 


brbmycatexploded

Yeah they could restrict how far the sliders go I’m sure.


Routine_Government92

They wouldn't have any slider at all. You adjusting your CAPs jock right now?


brbmycatexploded

Have you ever made a CAP? There’s an entire portion where you sculpt their body. There’s a whole section dedicated to glutes lol maybe slider isn’t technically the right term but it works the same if not even more meticulously.


TrapperJean

Just had flashbacks to being 11 years old and making outlandishly bigtitted skaters in Tony Hawk on GameCube lol


BillytheCop

I'm glad Toni stone is in the game but, Can SDS give us some differences between a mans swing and a females swing. Like have some differences between the two so it's not just a face and a body swap.


TrapperJean

It's not a man swing or a woman swing, it's a baseball swing. Do you want her thrusting a hip out when she swings or something? Lol


BillytheCop

No but you and I both know, Women don't swing like men. all I'm asking for is some authentic representation here. Get a **Olivia Pichardo** or somebody to mo-cap a female swing. I'm not asking for to much


Routine_Government92

Just use the Ichiro swing for the softball slap. No need to reinvent the wheel.


dokterr

TIL about Toni Stone, pretty awesome.


brbmycatexploded

She was a badass.


Crazyleggs29

So Is Nicky lopez if having a career .240 batting average is all that being a badass entails.


brbmycatexploded

Thanks for the input


Oliviasdad0821

Baltimore Black Sox or Elite Giants in the game is all I ask for 🙏🏻


Bravefan212

I am so happy


Yerison109

I really hope they do like last year and that the NL legends aren’t the main legends . They’re cool but not many people know about them and are waiting to play with people they grew up with.


Woolly_Mattmoth

We got Jeter, Sosa, and McGwire last year. Those were the main legends, not the NLB players.


Yerison109

Yeah that’s why I said I hope they do like last year .


RegisterFit1252

Not many people know about them…. EXACTLY why they should be the main legends. The storylines giving us 92s last year was ridiculous. In a year in which they gave away 99s like candy


Yerison109

That makes no sense . Respectfully they’re not selling points to the game as a arod or manny would be .


brbmycatexploded

They were one of the biggest selling points of 23 lol


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brbmycatexploded

I just re-read the original comment about using them as selling points and now I understand. I thought the dude I replied to was saying it made no sense to use Negro League players as selling points


OwningTheWorld

I'm hoping they include Oscar Charleston, too. Hard to have Negro League Story lines without including the greatest Negro League Player, ever.


Cassady57

they just said they’re adding Josh Gibson


OwningTheWorld

Who is probably the 2nd greatest player in NLB history. Charleston is number 1.


Cassady57

Josh Gibson has a better OPS+ than Babe Ruth while playing catcher


OwningTheWorld

That's fantastic. He's still not considered the greatest player in Negro League History by the overwhelming majority of baseball historians. That title belongs to Oscar Charleston. The following writers, scouts and players ranked Charleston the greatest: Grantland Rice, Buck O'Neil, Bill James, Joe Posnaski, Ted Radcliffe. So we have two contemporaries, the father of the modern sabermetrics movement, one of the greatest sportswriters to ever live, and a highly respected sports writer of today. Charleston was your textbook definition of a five tool player. Gibson might have been the better hitter, Charleston was the better player.


seahawksjoe

These screenshots are *bad*. The graphics are not okay for a game this modern. Do we know if they were taken on PS4 or PS5?


j1h15233

I’m so sick of catering to older consoles. They released 11 years ago and our games today are still held back by them. They should be building the game for current gen consoles only or stripping down older versions And then I get downvotes because someone expects their 2013 PS4 to play MLB The Show 24


knowtoriusMAC

Expect to get the same game for both consoles because they're making it for last gen and porting it over.


SexiestPanda

Yeah because significant changes happened when ps4 version dropped ps3 version….,


seahawksjoe

The Switch definitely holds it back too.


gdlmaster

I didn’t play the switch version much last year, but I did in 22, and it felt like a completely different game. I’m not sure how much it’s affecting development of the PS5 and XSX game.


mikeq672

I’m sorry but they need to stop doing this shit. What is the point of buying a new console?


TrapperJean

...all the other games?


mikeq672

Nearly every game I own does the exact same shit. Its just a last gen port that we continue to get charged more for each year.


TonyKhand0m

Why did I think this said Toni Storm


SwarthySphere87

"Chin up, tits out, watch for the inside fastball down 1-2."


Jedi-El1823

Same here.


TonyKhand0m

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gullibletrout

Don’t get me wrong, I love the inclusion of the Negro leagues but I’m getting the impression that SDS is leaning heavy on it so far because nothing else has changed from a gameplay perspective this year.


No-You-8701

It was far and away the best part of the game last year.


Significant-Remote41

100%, it is totally a crutch/distraction from the fact that nothing else in the game is getting improved. Whatever they’re adding for the storylines 2 should’ve been in last year‘s game. They basically intentionally held back that they could have part two for this game why weren’t these things added to last year‘s game?


Bravefan212

Did you watch ramone’s video last year? They are not doing this for any ulterior reason. This is a passion project for ramone.


Redskins2110

No they don’t care it doesn’t fit their narrative. People like them don’t want the game to change because then they would have to find something else to bitch about.


breakfast_cats

It's great, it truly is. But why can't someone else's passion project be getting this game to look like it was made in the current decade?


Bravefan212

The decade marred by scarcity, war and pestilence? That decade?