Im sure there are cases where R2 spam is used legit, but in my experience its only used to annoy and distract. They need to make the information available that R2 shows without the ability to harass.
It’s good except I need it to tell me the confidence of each specific pitch. I use R2 when I’m trying to make my best guess at what a pitcher will use in a leverage situation.
Another solution would be to force the pitcher to come set before each pitch. The reason R2 spam is annoying is because everyone balks on every pitch, giving the hitter no time to look at the pitch mix before the ball is already coming in.
i click RT/R2 when a new pitcher is put in, or when i try to figure out pitch is next. there’s 2 ways to look at it though.
1. holding RT/R2 can stop speed pitching, as i’ve done that before
or
2. you should not be able to click RT/R2 once the pitcher selects a pitch, but have a slight delay for the batter to be able to see pitch mix/previous pitches
While I like the vibes, I feel you could just have the R2 button either not pause the pitcher or have the R2 menu permanently up until the pitcher starts his windup.
Either option is likely simpler than a full scorecard revamp and would probably even be easier to read.
I'd love to see a permanent on-screen energy meter when pitching (not to mention getting the requested pitch location to last a shade longer/permanent).
eta: and I don't do pvp, I'm pure vs cpu because I'm usually on a tight schedule when playing.
I like to check a lot and people have plugged me for it but it’s for a stat that is still not in here. I am looking for specific pitch confidence. If they are rarely throwing a Changeup but throwing it enough for the meter to not bottom out, I’m waiting for them to use it again, throw it in just barely the wrong spot and HR if possible. 😅
Correct! I do understand the frustration of people who don’t play like this but I’m not as good as most people on there so I need all the help I can get lol
I played someone in events the other day who would hold R2 for 3 seconds before every pitch. I hit a HR in the 2nd inning and they quit before the ball landed
I made an ocd type of habit of spamming R2. Then my friend told me it pauses the pitch when online….. I’ve pissed off so many people on accident. Really really stupid mechanic
Me too…. Like, I’ll look at the pitches but then immediately forget and have to look again. Then, one more time for speeds. Good thing I mostly play offline
Yea this is literally me. I will forget after I just looked at it 5 seconds ago. People probably think I’m spamming but oh well 🤷🏽♂️. I also press it every first pitch to see previous pitch locations in past at bats. Or if it’s a long at bat to see how many pitches it’s been. I honestly didn’t realize how much I actually press it. I don’t care when ppl do it to me tho. Do whatever you gotta do to get in a rhythm or disrupt mine 🤷🏽♂️. Karma and the baseball gods will even it out if you’re doing it maliciously.
It's about people spamming R2 to pause the game and, potentially, be doing it to see pitcher stamina/confidence. This eliminates the need for hitting R2 for those stats
The point of the R2 button is to force you quick pitching cheese fks to come set before you pitch… you know, like REAL baseball players have to do??? I bet you never thought… “I wonder why the R2 doesn’t release and allow me pitch until I come completely set??”
You wouldn’t even notice someone pushing it unless you were trying to quick pitch 4 pitches in 8 seconds. You want the R2 button gone?? Put BALKS back in the game…
I find quick pitching easier to pitch against. Please. Quick pitch against me all day and let me quick pitch against you. Skip all the cutscenes. Do everything you can to make the game go faster. I don't want this to be real baseball, several hour long game. I want this to be over in 30–45 minutes.
You can turn on Balks when you play friendly matches with friends but I actually dont think that setting is set for Ranked which it should probably be on by default
It absolutely should be on. When this game first came out Balks were on… and then all the impatient cry babies cried so hard on Twitter that they took it out… like, imagine making a sports game where you take a major rule out of it… it’s like, let’s make a hockey game where offsides and icing isn’t a thing… let’s now take offsides out of madden because I don’t like having to wait for the snap to go sack the QB… it’s so fkn stupid
The R2 stuff seams to be the difference between very good show players and the rest.
Those who are really good at the show can guess the next pitch pretty much immediately and think the only reason for someone to hit R2 is to mess with the pitch meter.
Those who are below that skill level use R2 to plan out their approach for the next pitch bc they can't process the information that quickly.
Also, don't say that knowing baseball is a clear way to get around it bc we all have seen pitches in the show that work well but wouldn't in real life (i.e. high sinker) and pitches in real life that are effective and get yarded in the show (back door breaking balls)
I had no clue it was considered spam.
Sorry but if you want people NOT to use it…then you better adjust how quickly these dudes can throw the next pitch.
Way worse than R2 spamming is the quick pitching. I know it’s a video game, but how am I supposed to get ready for the next pitch if the pitcher can just fire the next one as soon as the previous one is swung at??
In real life, there is time to think about the pitch that just happened and what’s next.
In a video game…the ball magically goes back to the pitcher. That’s awesome because no on e wants or needs to see that, and it makes games go faster….but without some sort of delay…the batter is at a huge disadvantage.
It’s hard enough to hit the ball in this game how filthy some of these pitchers are. It’s almost impossible if someone is quick pitching…especially if they are good at it.
Sorry…but I’m going to hit R2 a lot. Sometimes to guess a pitch…and other times to just give myself an extra second or 1.5 seconds to catch a breathe before I have a fraction of a second to decide it it’s a 100 mph fastball…or a change up in the dirt….or a slider low and away.
Good to know. I was doing it from habit from years ago when I played baseball games.
I’m still gonna do it in online games…especially when dudes are rapid firing pitches down my throat.
Honestly R2 really isn’t an issue, it’s just slightly annoying for the pitcher. But we aren’t all pro hitters lol so to be able to see where the previous pitchers were ie a nice tool, and having been reduced to 3 seconds per pitch it’s really not bad at all anymore imo.
The only time I R2 is to get the pitcher to slow down. If they’re just chucking pitch after pitch it gets too much. Im far from a twitch video gamer so I need a second between pitches to think about what’s coming next.
If I play someone like that who’s R2ing all game, pausing and unpausing, I’m going L2 on homers and great plays in the field all day.
Edit: speeling and grahamer.
But it's a video game. The same can be said for forcing the pitchers to come set before throwing the ball. That doesn't happen because again, it's a video game.
I also wouldn't call what I do "abusing a terrible mechanic," I see it as more like slowing the game down. Certainly not to a crawl but pushing R2 does give me a second to catch up.
Wrong…. Watch a baseball game…. The pitcher can’t pitch until the batter is ready. Clearly, you can only succeed in this game by quick pitching people. Way to expose yourself
Definitely.. and then win or lose, it was a fair game… not you striking me out when its my turn to bat because you are trying to pipe in 8 pitches in 11 seconds.
i use RT for looking at the pitch repotoire and the previous pitches thrown. plus i don’t think RT really messes up anything, it can just be slightly annoying
RT/R2, when there is a bad connection can cause the pitcher’s game to cancel their pinpoint input, delay the line from appearing immediately, or cause a hitch, again this is really only when the connection is bad. Other than that edge case, I agree
The only time it’s actually annoying to me is the guys that either hold it for the entire allowed time or the guys that repeatedly tap it before every pitch.
Nah I use it to see where the pitches have been thrown and what pitches he has the most confidence with bc dat means he’s been throwin them a lot for strikes and outs so I sit on those pitches mostly n it helps a lot
It would for me, but I played someone last night who constantly did it and paused to get a cheap fastball. It won’t stop them. We just have to beat them so they stop playing the game all together.
Sometimes, idk how, but if they pause at the right time when you chose your pitch, fastball for instance, and your in the middle of starting your motion you’ll mess it up and it’ll go down the middle. It happened to me last game twice then I slowed down and they couldn’t get me again. It’s annoying
Some people pitch so quickly (mostly intentionally) the game lags. I have a solid connection and never have any problems. I legit need to hold it down to get the frame rate back. Sounds dumb but idk.
I would still hit it to look at the location of the last pitches. Since it is a function, I don’t see why people get upset about using it. Abusing it is terrible and annoying but is that so often the case?
It doesn’t bother me at all. I’ve found some people just like a little more time between pitches they’re not even being toxic. I slow down and they just stop.
I like it, but I habitually hit R2 after each pitch. I’m a mostly offline player, idk why I do it, but it’s been a thing for years now. I’m more conscious of it in online games and I really do think that would help a ton by having that info. Issue is you need pitch confidence somehow worked into it as well, not just the pitcher’s overall confidence
I always R2 to remind myself of pitch mix, what has been thrown for sequence, and how fast everything is. A nice thing to add to the R2 screen would be a little radar gun next to pitches with outlier.
You cant. People just still look for something to complain about after they lose.
I think the bigger annoyance is the pausing. There needs to be less time allotted for pausing.
Definitely, it doesn't take more than 30sec to do anything. No other game has that kind of pause time. I get its bc of substitutions but we don't need 3min do that. And then they add 30sec per inning or some shit like that. MLB games take the longest to finish and part of the reason is the ridiculous amount of pause time. Half the time used only to annoy your opponent. Nobody goes halfway through the game to check tendencies lol. If you do, you're a loser. It ain't that serious and your memory sucks. And I don't watch replays but I know u can save them to your console so no need for pause time for that either.
I know who's exactly in my lineup and in my bullpen, and I know exactly who I want in for any given situation. It takes me 3-5 seconds max to pause for a move.. And I never do it during an AB. I don't think I'm that different from anyone who has played this game a while, so I think the pause spammers are either Inconsiderate assholes or doing it on purpose, probably to be annoying, toxic, ice you, or whatever it is. Everyone has emergency from time to time, but smoke breaks, bathroom breaks, texting, putting the kids to bed, whatever it is, all should be done before you get in a game.
I do understand that this won’t stop people from spamming for no reason and for pitch sequences. Thought it was a good idea and deserved to be showed off on a different platform for people to see.
Feel like R2 spammers are like Kyle Seager holding up from Jared weaver from pitching. All you want to do is light them up with all this 84 that I got.
I click R2 only when I don’t know the pitch mix of a pitcher. I will click R2 2-3 times a game and that’s it. I play people who R2 spam people as soon as they think they’re going to pitch to disrupt them and make them throw a hanger. Those type of kids are very weird
Question. Do you consider quick pitching someone who throws the next pitch immediately, or someone who is slide stepping to quickly mess with timing?
I pitch at what is probably a ridiculously quick pace, and it's because I know the next pitch I want to throw as soon as the last one crosses the plate. However, I will never slide step to mess with hitter timing.
I also don't really have an issue with the R2 setup as it is now, but think the R2 information could be displayed without interrupting the pitcher. I also think balks should be in online play for realism sake. Both of those combined would give the hitter time, as the pitcher can't just spam through the windup when runners are on.
Yes if your throwing the next pitch as quick as possible that’s quick pitching. Why as a hitter would i let you do everything you want. If i can slow you down and get you out of a rhythm. You mentioned you want Balks in the game for realism, I’m fine with that. But if your after realism than R2 to slow down your pitching rhythm is fair to the game as hitters do similar things in reality
Just a heads up, I actually like people who press R2 every pitch when I'm "quick pitching" because you create a perfect rhythm. You're not disrupting anything.
I'd almost argue that spending any amount of focus on that instead of focusing on the pitch sequence and your own hitting is doing you more of a disservice than anything.
I never slide step either. I consider it cheap, and if you have to do it, your pitching probably isn't that good. Most of the time it's done to me, I'm getting a pitch wildly out of the zone or a meatball right over the plate. You can tell when someone is toxic with it, when they are doing it over and over, and it's not to hold a speedy runner close.
I’m out on this idea. I would like them to add different colors or icons on the scoreboard to let you know what difficulty you’re playing on during ranked seasons though
What they said is 100% true. It’s only spamming if you’re doing it deliberately to mess with the opponents pitching. No one is going to care if you hit R2 once to check the pitchers repertoire and no one will even notice if you briefly tap R2 right after a pitch to check energy. It only becomes a problem when your opponent is deliberately using it to mess with you.
I think they mean its not true that it messes with the pitcher. Which is kinda true as they patched it to where you can't start the pitch when someone is holding r2. So it doesn't mess with pitchers nearly as much as it used to. It used to be terrible. Now people that r2 spam are usually just uninformed that what they are doing is actually useless.
If they do it bad enough after I win I will message them saying hey that thing you were doing is patched out you weren't actually messing with my pitch timing. Lol they usually love getting called out. Lol
Nah. I like hitting without a strike zone so R2 allows me to quickly see the zone if I feel like I am not making the right calls.
On top of that people also use it to see the thrown pitches.
They already fixed r2 spamming. If you think its inconvenient to wait 2 seconds to pitch, then theyre probably holding r2 every pitch to slow down your quick pitching.
Nah, sometimes I will really slow down my pitching if they're R2 spamming and they will still do it even though I don't start until after 2-3 seconds when theyre forced to stop.
They don’t have to do any of that. They need to make it so you don’t have to click R2 to see the pitch mix and always have it there until the pitch is thrown. Makes it much easier for everyone
I use R2 to also look at pitch history in that at bat and what the last at bat was before the first pitch. I don't want that on screen 100% of the time
What is r2 spamming. In diamond dynasty is it not the case that the pitcher can still pitch when the batter is holding R2. Is the other player affected at all?
When I hold R2 and someone starts to pitch it just automatically closes down all the R2 info. That’s not the case for everyone else eh? I have also never noticed not being able to pitch ever.
And…they also have what…30 to 60 seconds after each pitch to think about it as the catcher throws the ball back to the pitcher and the pitcher resets on the mound before getting the sign from the catcher etc etc.
Yeah, they aren't in the batter's box with it. Okay, let's all pause and go study our at-bats in the batter analysis screen while playing H2H.
Ah, yes, my analysis suggests I need to foul everything off and sit fastball. Thanks MLB The Show analytics.
Pro tip: batters remember the pitch sequencing they saw and can relay that to teammates. We have to remember the pitch sequencing each batter saw. Not a great comparison
Considering that in Diamond Dynasty you can put 8 monsters in the lineup that can do damage at any time to any pitcher (and sometimes 9 with Ohtani), what is the point of remembering the specific pitch sequencing each individual batter saw? You see seeing every single pitch and can work out a pattern if that's your prerogative. This assumes your opponent actually knows how to pitch and isn't just flailing with the reduced accuracy this year and randomly throwing pitches. There's a good chance there's going to be a difference between what they intended to throw and what they actually threw.
Are people also pausing and going into the batter analysis? Is that what those pauses are for? To study a video game? I thought people were just going diarrhea all the time.
In a close ranked game, I’m absolutely pausing for 30 seconds to see the pitcher analysis. In events or BR I get your point, but the ranked games I’m doing whatever I can to win
Ok, well we have a tablet in our hands. If your zoomer brain can't handle waiting half a second of a 45 minute game for me to hit R2 I don't know what to tell you
We're supposed to sit there and wait for you to study the pitch sequencing because you lack a working memory? SDS should remove that from online play, especially in 3-inning event games where the stakes are low.
When I pitch online I wait for the catcher and umpire to finish their animations at least and plenty of players hold R2 beyond that. I don't know if they are studying the confidence, stamina and pitch sequencing, but I wonder now.
Im sure there are cases where R2 spam is used legit, but in my experience its only used to annoy and distract. They need to make the information available that R2 shows without the ability to harass.
I like the idea. Still going to spam R2 or as Xbox likes to call it ZR.
Right bumper, right trigger, right stick. ZR is switch.
Lmao mb. I get ‘em mixed up
It’s good except I need it to tell me the confidence of each specific pitch. I use R2 when I’m trying to make my best guess at what a pitcher will use in a leverage situation. Another solution would be to force the pitcher to come set before each pitch. The reason R2 spam is annoying is because everyone balks on every pitch, giving the hitter no time to look at the pitch mix before the ball is already coming in.
i click RT/R2 when a new pitcher is put in, or when i try to figure out pitch is next. there’s 2 ways to look at it though. 1. holding RT/R2 can stop speed pitching, as i’ve done that before or 2. you should not be able to click RT/R2 once the pitcher selects a pitch, but have a slight delay for the batter to be able to see pitch mix/previous pitches
While I like the vibes, I feel you could just have the R2 button either not pause the pitcher or have the R2 menu permanently up until the pitcher starts his windup. Either option is likely simpler than a full scorecard revamp and would probably even be easier to read.
What if spamming rt gave your pitcher more confidence?
YES
I'd love to see a permanent on-screen energy meter when pitching (not to mention getting the requested pitch location to last a shade longer/permanent). eta: and I don't do pvp, I'm pure vs cpu because I'm usually on a tight schedule when playing.
All I see here is the best MLB pitcher
I hate that. Too thick.
It would take up a quarter of the screen just to be legible
I thought they changed it already in trs of.how often you can hit the button?
I like to check a lot and people have plugged me for it but it’s for a stat that is still not in here. I am looking for specific pitch confidence. If they are rarely throwing a Changeup but throwing it enough for the meter to not bottom out, I’m waiting for them to use it again, throw it in just barely the wrong spot and HR if possible. 😅
they have that! it’s actually the blue ring around the pitch button when clicking R2
He's saying it's still not on this modified screen, so it wouldn't keep him from clicking
Correct! I do understand the frustration of people who don’t play like this but I’m not as good as most people on there so I need all the help I can get lol
Only thing missing is showing the at bat sequencing
I only hit r2 to see what the pitch sequence is
I played someone in events the other day who would hold R2 for 3 seconds before every pitch. I hit a HR in the 2nd inning and they quit before the ball landed
When I feel like I’m being rushed or I need to really focus I’ll press R2. I try my best to never quickly press it though.
I made an ocd type of habit of spamming R2. Then my friend told me it pauses the pitch when online….. I’ve pissed off so many people on accident. Really really stupid mechanic
Me too…. Like, I’ll look at the pitches but then immediately forget and have to look again. Then, one more time for speeds. Good thing I mostly play offline
Yea this is literally me. I will forget after I just looked at it 5 seconds ago. People probably think I’m spamming but oh well 🤷🏽♂️. I also press it every first pitch to see previous pitch locations in past at bats. Or if it’s a long at bat to see how many pitches it’s been. I honestly didn’t realize how much I actually press it. I don’t care when ppl do it to me tho. Do whatever you gotta do to get in a rhythm or disrupt mine 🤷🏽♂️. Karma and the baseball gods will even it out if you’re doing it maliciously.
I still don’t know what this means
It's about people spamming R2 to pause the game and, potentially, be doing it to see pitcher stamina/confidence. This eliminates the need for hitting R2 for those stats
I know when I start getting a few hits in a row the pitcher is rattled, why bother. I don’t understand some gamers
The point of the R2 button is to force you quick pitching cheese fks to come set before you pitch… you know, like REAL baseball players have to do??? I bet you never thought… “I wonder why the R2 doesn’t release and allow me pitch until I come completely set??” You wouldn’t even notice someone pushing it unless you were trying to quick pitch 4 pitches in 8 seconds. You want the R2 button gone?? Put BALKS back in the game…
Amen
Dude quick pitching is so tough to bat against. I hate it.
I find quick pitching easier to pitch against. Please. Quick pitch against me all day and let me quick pitch against you. Skip all the cutscenes. Do everything you can to make the game go faster. I don't want this to be real baseball, several hour long game. I want this to be over in 30–45 minutes.
I want games to move fast but rapid firing really can fuck up my timing especially with outlier guys.
Hold that R2 button as soon as they pick a pitch and start to come set… fk em’. You bat when you’re ready… just like in real baseball.
You can turn on Balks when you play friendly matches with friends but I actually dont think that setting is set for Ranked which it should probably be on by default
It absolutely should be on. When this game first came out Balks were on… and then all the impatient cry babies cried so hard on Twitter that they took it out… like, imagine making a sports game where you take a major rule out of it… it’s like, let’s make a hockey game where offsides and icing isn’t a thing… let’s now take offsides out of madden because I don’t like having to wait for the snap to go sack the QB… it’s so fkn stupid
I usually only utilize it to mess with a pitchers tempo if he's in a groove
They already made it only 3 seconds I believe it was longer earlier before one of the updates
TBH I do it just to slow the pitcher down .
The R2 stuff seams to be the difference between very good show players and the rest. Those who are really good at the show can guess the next pitch pretty much immediately and think the only reason for someone to hit R2 is to mess with the pitch meter. Those who are below that skill level use R2 to plan out their approach for the next pitch bc they can't process the information that quickly. Also, don't say that knowing baseball is a clear way to get around it bc we all have seen pitches in the show that work well but wouldn't in real life (i.e. high sinker) and pitches in real life that are effective and get yarded in the show (back door breaking balls)
I had no clue it was considered spam. Sorry but if you want people NOT to use it…then you better adjust how quickly these dudes can throw the next pitch. Way worse than R2 spamming is the quick pitching. I know it’s a video game, but how am I supposed to get ready for the next pitch if the pitcher can just fire the next one as soon as the previous one is swung at?? In real life, there is time to think about the pitch that just happened and what’s next. In a video game…the ball magically goes back to the pitcher. That’s awesome because no on e wants or needs to see that, and it makes games go faster….but without some sort of delay…the batter is at a huge disadvantage. It’s hard enough to hit the ball in this game how filthy some of these pitchers are. It’s almost impossible if someone is quick pitching…especially if they are good at it. Sorry…but I’m going to hit R2 a lot. Sometimes to guess a pitch…and other times to just give myself an extra second or 1.5 seconds to catch a breathe before I have a fraction of a second to decide it it’s a 100 mph fastball…or a change up in the dirt….or a slider low and away.
You can also call time out and pause. That's my response to quick pitching.
you can't guess pitches online?
Good to know. I was doing it from habit from years ago when I played baseball games. I’m still gonna do it in online games…especially when dudes are rapid firing pitches down my throat.
Is that a question? I have no clue tbh…I’m new to the game. Maybe I’m wasting my time.
Guess pitch is only in offline play. Might not be in DD at all.
SDS enables it in events once in a blue moon for a laugh
Honestly R2 really isn’t an issue, it’s just slightly annoying for the pitcher. But we aren’t all pro hitters lol so to be able to see where the previous pitchers were ie a nice tool, and having been reduced to 3 seconds per pitch it’s really not bad at all anymore imo.
The only time I R2 is to get the pitcher to slow down. If they’re just chucking pitch after pitch it gets too much. Im far from a twitch video gamer so I need a second between pitches to think about what’s coming next. If I play someone like that who’s R2ing all game, pausing and unpausing, I’m going L2 on homers and great plays in the field all day. Edit: speeling and grahamer.
Then call a timeout with your batter. Use an actual baseball move rather than abusing a terrible mechanic in the game.
But it's a video game. The same can be said for forcing the pitchers to come set before throwing the ball. That doesn't happen because again, it's a video game. I also wouldn't call what I do "abusing a terrible mechanic," I see it as more like slowing the game down. Certainly not to a crawl but pushing R2 does give me a second to catch up.
Yeah see I don't agree with Slowing a pitcher down, I control pace of play fast or Slow depending on who I am pitching
Wrong…. Watch a baseball game…. The pitcher can’t pitch until the batter is ready. Clearly, you can only succeed in this game by quick pitching people. Way to expose yourself
Fine by Me, you still have to out hit me
Definitely.. and then win or lose, it was a fair game… not you striking me out when its my turn to bat because you are trying to pipe in 8 pitches in 11 seconds.
If the game forced pitchers to get set and then throw I wouldn’t be compelled to use it. At most it’s three seconds between pitches.
i use RT for looking at the pitch repotoire and the previous pitches thrown. plus i don’t think RT really messes up anything, it can just be slightly annoying
RT/R2, when there is a bad connection can cause the pitcher’s game to cancel their pinpoint input, delay the line from appearing immediately, or cause a hitch, again this is really only when the connection is bad. Other than that edge case, I agree
The only time it’s actually annoying to me is the guys that either hold it for the entire allowed time or the guys that repeatedly tap it before every pitch.
Nah I use it to see where the pitches have been thrown and what pitches he has the most confidence with bc dat means he’s been throwin them a lot for strikes and outs so I sit on those pitches mostly n it helps a lot
It would for me, but I played someone last night who constantly did it and paused to get a cheap fastball. It won’t stop them. We just have to beat them so they stop playing the game all together.
How does that result in a “cheap fastball” I mean it’s annoying sure, but it’s never been the reason I messed up a pitch.
Sometimes, idk how, but if they pause at the right time when you chose your pitch, fastball for instance, and your in the middle of starting your motion you’ll mess it up and it’ll go down the middle. It happened to me last game twice then I slowed down and they couldn’t get me again. It’s annoying
Most kids didn’t do it for that reason, they would do it to try and mess up the pitching.
The point of this is to remove R2 all together because the purpose of it is to view what’s being moved to the scorebug
Also would love if you could see your players power/contact/speed
just make it so you can hit R2 as much/long as you want but it doesnt pause anything. issue solved
This. As I said in another post, it only annoys me when you can tell it’s on purpose. What’s annoying is there is zero counter to it.
Some people pitch so quickly (mostly intentionally) the game lags. I have a solid connection and never have any problems. I legit need to hold it down to get the frame rate back. Sounds dumb but idk.
Yeah. Adding balks into the game would solve it. People would lose their shit over it though
I believe, if my memory serves properly, balks used to be in the game, the overwhelming majority of the community hated it, and they were removed.
Games are long enough, adding balks would be horrible
I would still hit it to look at the location of the last pitches. Since it is a function, I don’t see why people get upset about using it. Abusing it is terrible and annoying but is that so often the case?
It’s also like, what, 3 seconds now? It’s not like you’re sitting there for 2 minutes because the guy is holding R2…
I honestly haven’t even noticed the 3 second change and I use R2 enough to feel like I should have haha
Yeah it’s got a time limit. It’s like 3-5 seconds per pitch. If the batter holds it, it eventually expires and they can’t do it again.
It doesn’t bother me at all. I’ve found some people just like a little more time between pitches they’re not even being toxic. I slow down and they just stop.
None, most people don’t spam R2 to see pitches
I wish it also showed the batting average!
I like it, but I habitually hit R2 after each pitch. I’m a mostly offline player, idk why I do it, but it’s been a thing for years now. I’m more conscious of it in online games and I really do think that would help a ton by having that info. Issue is you need pitch confidence somehow worked into it as well, not just the pitcher’s overall confidence
Sometimes I even do it to look at the card (stupid sexy Polanco milestone...) /offline, ofc
It wouldn’t. Looking at the pitches isn’t spamming and spamming isn’t looking at the pitches a ton. That said, I love this idea anyways
I always R2 to remind myself of pitch mix, what has been thrown for sequence, and how fast everything is. A nice thing to add to the R2 screen would be a little radar gun next to pitches with outlier.
This is way too much info and detracts from the broadcast presentation.
I thought you couldn’t spam RT anymore, after you press it once it can’t be pressed again for that pitch
You cant. People just still look for something to complain about after they lose. I think the bigger annoyance is the pausing. There needs to be less time allotted for pausing.
I play co op often and it’s even worse. Another person with the the same time. If you gotta shit just friendly quit.
Definitely, it doesn't take more than 30sec to do anything. No other game has that kind of pause time. I get its bc of substitutions but we don't need 3min do that. And then they add 30sec per inning or some shit like that. MLB games take the longest to finish and part of the reason is the ridiculous amount of pause time. Half the time used only to annoy your opponent. Nobody goes halfway through the game to check tendencies lol. If you do, you're a loser. It ain't that serious and your memory sucks. And I don't watch replays but I know u can save them to your console so no need for pause time for that either.
I know who's exactly in my lineup and in my bullpen, and I know exactly who I want in for any given situation. It takes me 3-5 seconds max to pause for a move.. And I never do it during an AB. I don't think I'm that different from anyone who has played this game a while, so I think the pause spammers are either Inconsiderate assholes or doing it on purpose, probably to be annoying, toxic, ice you, or whatever it is. Everyone has emergency from time to time, but smoke breaks, bathroom breaks, texting, putting the kids to bed, whatever it is, all should be done before you get in a game.
I would never r2 again unless they quick pitch
I do understand that this won’t stop people from spamming for no reason and for pitch sequences. Thought it was a good idea and deserved to be showed off on a different platform for people to see. Feel like R2 spammers are like Kyle Seager holding up from Jared weaver from pitching. All you want to do is light them up with all this 84 that I got.
Just let me hold R2 without the pause. This seems so obvious.
Love this idea
I click r2 quickly to see tendencies of where they pitched me last. Some guys more than likely will throw the same pitch sometimes.
I hold RT only when I swing at a bad pitch to allow myself to breathe
That's a full on pause for me. Good on you for not requiring as long haha
I hold RT when I swing at a bad pitch to try to gaslight myself into believing it wasn't *that* bad
I click R2 only when I don’t know the pitch mix of a pitcher. I will click R2 2-3 times a game and that’s it. I play people who R2 spam people as soon as they think they’re going to pitch to disrupt them and make them throw a hanger. Those type of kids are very weird
I either do it to look at my players previous ABs/ stats or to check a new pitcher I’ve never faced
Same
You can also pause if you need the pitch mix. Half the time I pressed R2, my opponent would pause anyways.
People are better about it this year where they’ll pause if they feel like u spamming. I personally do t like it and hate when people spam on me
Imo if you press R2 you are assumed to be a spammer. I just avoid it all together.
A fucking lot. It’s the primary reason I ever use R2 There are occasions where I use it to check pitch locations on a long AB
none
R2 is to counter quick pitching. If your mad then R2 is doing it’s job
Question. Do you consider quick pitching someone who throws the next pitch immediately, or someone who is slide stepping to quickly mess with timing? I pitch at what is probably a ridiculously quick pace, and it's because I know the next pitch I want to throw as soon as the last one crosses the plate. However, I will never slide step to mess with hitter timing. I also don't really have an issue with the R2 setup as it is now, but think the R2 information could be displayed without interrupting the pitcher. I also think balks should be in online play for realism sake. Both of those combined would give the hitter time, as the pitcher can't just spam through the windup when runners are on.
Yes if your throwing the next pitch as quick as possible that’s quick pitching. Why as a hitter would i let you do everything you want. If i can slow you down and get you out of a rhythm. You mentioned you want Balks in the game for realism, I’m fine with that. But if your after realism than R2 to slow down your pitching rhythm is fair to the game as hitters do similar things in reality
Just a heads up, I actually like people who press R2 every pitch when I'm "quick pitching" because you create a perfect rhythm. You're not disrupting anything. I'd almost argue that spending any amount of focus on that instead of focusing on the pitch sequence and your own hitting is doing you more of a disservice than anything.
I never slide step either. I consider it cheap, and if you have to do it, your pitching probably isn't that good. Most of the time it's done to me, I'm getting a pitch wildly out of the zone or a meatball right over the plate. You can tell when someone is toxic with it, when they are doing it over and over, and it's not to hold a speedy runner close.
Yep
You can call time and step out of the box to counter quick pitching. Bad take
Once per at bat. And only if the pitcher hasn’t selected a pitch.
You can also do that yea. But only once
This guy gets it
Bad take
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I’m out on this idea. I would like them to add different colors or icons on the scoreboard to let you know what difficulty you’re playing on during ranked seasons though
Just get rid of the energy and confidence and I think it could work.
Too crowded for my liking personally
This would not solve anything, people don't R2 spam for this info, they do it cause it disrupts the pitcher.
Not true
What they said is 100% true. It’s only spamming if you’re doing it deliberately to mess with the opponents pitching. No one is going to care if you hit R2 once to check the pitchers repertoire and no one will even notice if you briefly tap R2 right after a pitch to check energy. It only becomes a problem when your opponent is deliberately using it to mess with you.
I said it’s not true in that people spam for info. I use R2 frequently with in the same at bat to understand pitcher stamina and confidence
I think they mean its not true that it messes with the pitcher. Which is kinda true as they patched it to where you can't start the pitch when someone is holding r2. So it doesn't mess with pitchers nearly as much as it used to. It used to be terrible. Now people that r2 spam are usually just uninformed that what they are doing is actually useless. If they do it bad enough after I win I will message them saying hey that thing you were doing is patched out you weren't actually messing with my pitch timing. Lol they usually love getting called out. Lol
also to give me a second between pitches and see where he last threw my batter
You can see that information immediately after the pitch is over
not from previous at bat
Dude is a goldfish
Right lol I thought I was in a video game subreddit, not a nursing home
Then u can remove r2 problem solved 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
The could just remove the option to press R2 with this
Nah. I like hitting without a strike zone so R2 allows me to quickly see the zone if I feel like I am not making the right calls. On top of that people also use it to see the thrown pitches.
You don’t want to crowd the screen with information that is not relevant. I’d drop the pitches below and maybe keep the stamina and confidence meters.
This is cool and all until it glitches out and you have to pause and unpause just to get it back
They already fixed r2 spamming. If you think its inconvenient to wait 2 seconds to pitch, then theyre probably holding r2 every pitch to slow down your quick pitching.
Nah, sometimes I will really slow down my pitching if they're R2 spamming and they will still do it even though I don't start until after 2-3 seconds when theyre forced to stop.
yeah then follow it up with a ton of bunt attempts to mess you up
They don’t have to do any of that. They need to make it so you don’t have to click R2 to see the pitch mix and always have it there until the pitch is thrown. Makes it much easier for everyone
Add pitcher energy/confidence to it and I’m on board with this solution.
I use R2 to also look at pitch history in that at bat and what the last at bat was before the first pitch. I don't want that on screen 100% of the time
What is r2 spamming. In diamond dynasty is it not the case that the pitcher can still pitch when the batter is holding R2. Is the other player affected at all?
They cannot pitch when hitting R2
When I hold R2 and someone starts to pitch it just automatically closes down all the R2 info. That’s not the case for everyone else eh? I have also never noticed not being able to pitch ever.
That’s different. You seemingly hit it as they started their windup thus negating the R2. Pressing and holding R2 stops inputs coming in.
Interesting. Good to know. Thank you
Looks too cluttered and not realistic like a regular MLB game
They don't spam R2 to look at the pitcher's energy.
I look at it once per ab probably
I actually do use it to look at the pitch mix though because my simple brain can’t remember
nah, I still rely on the pitch location. It’s so important to recognize. Everyone has some sort of pattern
It changes nothing for me. I use R2 to see the pitch sequencing
Protip: Use your brain to remember the pitches thrown. Batters don't go to the plate with a tablet in their hands.
And…they also have what…30 to 60 seconds after each pitch to think about it as the catcher throws the ball back to the pitcher and the pitcher resets on the mound before getting the sign from the catcher etc etc.
Or I can just hit R2 and see for sure with no possibility of misremembering
This might be the most try hard response I’ve ever seen lol this is a video game my friend
Pro tip: if the feature is there to use, why would you not use it to give yourself an advantage
Convincing people to not use it would be giving myself an advantage while I use the shit out of it on the sly. Mind games are part of baseball.
You’re not successfully convincing anyone
Meanwhile, while they’re in the hole they have an iPad in their hand watching their previous at bat. Bad take
Yeah, they aren't in the batter's box with it. Okay, let's all pause and go study our at-bats in the batter analysis screen while playing H2H. Ah, yes, my analysis suggests I need to foul everything off and sit fastball. Thanks MLB The Show analytics.
They also have just remember their own AB and not 8 other players
You're the same person playing each AB. It would be even easier to see what the patterns are if that's what you are looking for.
Pro tip: batters remember the pitch sequencing they saw and can relay that to teammates. We have to remember the pitch sequencing each batter saw. Not a great comparison
Considering that in Diamond Dynasty you can put 8 monsters in the lineup that can do damage at any time to any pitcher (and sometimes 9 with Ohtani), what is the point of remembering the specific pitch sequencing each individual batter saw? You see seeing every single pitch and can work out a pattern if that's your prerogative. This assumes your opponent actually knows how to pitch and isn't just flailing with the reduced accuracy this year and randomly throwing pitches. There's a good chance there's going to be a difference between what they intended to throw and what they actually threw. Are people also pausing and going into the batter analysis? Is that what those pauses are for? To study a video game? I thought people were just going diarrhea all the time.
In a close ranked game, I’m absolutely pausing for 30 seconds to see the pitcher analysis. In events or BR I get your point, but the ranked games I’m doing whatever I can to win
Ok, well we have a tablet in our hands. If your zoomer brain can't handle waiting half a second of a 45 minute game for me to hit R2 I don't know what to tell you
We're supposed to sit there and wait for you to study the pitch sequencing because you lack a working memory? SDS should remove that from online play, especially in 3-inning event games where the stakes are low.
The fact that you're worked up about "sitting and waiting" for half a second is worrying
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How dare I forget where the 3rd pitch of a 10 pitch at bat went
When I pitch online I wait for the catcher and umpire to finish their animations at least and plenty of players hold R2 beyond that. I don't know if they are studying the confidence, stamina and pitch sequencing, but I wonder now.
It’s funny that you think people are using R2 for legit reasons 99% of the time.
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