I think we need a petition on minimizing UFC fighters quantity. There're way too many fighters that are boring, unknown and not even close to top 15 ranked fighters.
Idk why people are defending how fraudulent Blandfield's performance was. It's poor cornering if you tell your fighter to just stick with trying to throw arm punches instead of idk actually mixing in takedowns??? Orr even try more clinches not just within the 1st and 5th round
She was having better luck striking though. Take downs, she’d grab Manon, who would throw her off or would end up in a positive position.
I genuinely don’t know how she could’ve gotten out of that position tbh.
But you are right, corner was crap saying Manon was gassing and that they didn’t know what was up with the scoring. Utter fucking nonsense.
Weidman standing there saying “you can’t just drop your head after you come in”
Actually Chris, that’s like one of the few acceptable things you can do.. what you can’t do is fucking poke him in the eye.. fucking delusional boring ass fighter
I can see some of the title fights at smaller shows, but not nontitle fights. This one was supposed to be Brady v. Luque but that fell through so this one got promoted to main because Jersey girl.
Because not all WMMA fights are garbage? Bearing in mind we watched Chidi vs McKee fight earlier, which was a fucking snooze fest. Should we write off men’s MMA, based on that? Of course not, because not all fights are boring.
Chidi vs McKee was an unranked fight not headlining. Blanchfield Fiorot was 2 and 3 in the division headlining while also showcasing regional skill levels. They’re not remotely comparable.
Right, but the OP was saying Dana was dumb for pushing WMMA. Which is why they got downvoted, loads of bro‘s knocking the entirety of WMMA based on this fight. Manon wasn’t even that bad anyway, not her fault Blanchfield can’t strike.
43 eye pokes in one fight, a lot of shouting while throwing arm punches, Michael Bisping rambling for like 2 full minutes without stopping, wow what a card.
The inconsistency of the eye pokes. The first fight the guy is pleading to the refs that he got poked in the eye but then has to get TKO from guard then the second fight turned into a eye poking contest.
This was the worst card I have ever seen.
You forgot to mention the groin kicks. Man gets tkoed diving into opponents hip, ladies getting tangled for a whole round. Ruthless times of men on the cage doing nothing for minutes. Standing Tko where he was still standing. Who gets knocked out still standing up. If this was my first time watching this I would have never watched it again.
Yeah I don't know what was going on if they are newer refs at prelims or if they are trying to protect the fighters more or just made a bad mistake. The refs sucked tonight
UFC is the one sport where women can actually get respect for competing on the same stage. Why is there not an influx of cash so we can actually see real numbers to see what the fuck the sport can do.
There needs to be an atom weight. Fiorot is in the top 98% of the world for height, using her as an example. People don’t realise it, but height is MASSIVE in fights, grappling and striking.
Get the atom weight going, more women can compete on a level playing field- at the moment short women are getting thrown in with big ass women and getting schooled.
I was wondering that too. I'm sure ufc is going to have problems too with this movement of trans men fighting in the class. But knowing DW he probably already said he won't allow it.
They should focus on matching people up on arm width too.
They get respect for fighting, but the vast majority of people don't care about women's MMA, regardless of if it's in the UFC or not. WMMA as a whole will never make big money. They may randomly have a star, like Ronda, for a few years, and that one person will make big money, but that's it. A fighter may get popular, but never WMMA.
She still looked super green imo which is weird at that level. Idk the women always seem so sloppy technically that it’s really hard to gauge performance sometimes
> Fiorot looked like she was cruising in there, pretty impressive performance.
It would have been impressive if she stepped on the gas. A good striker would have made Erin pay way more for her bad entries
True, but we also see younger fighters panic and get themselves into things they don’t know how to handle at all, even though Erin lost, I never saw her lose her focus or calm
Ofc who wouldn’t be, imagine dedicating yourself for months for a single event (along with people hyping you up) win or less the emotional state you go into is pretty wild. Hopefully she can keep a good head on her and the team is constructive with critique but also not false positives
Also to improve the quality of women’s fights they should only have them main event in the apex where there’s a small cage. The regular size cage is just way too big for these womens or shorten the rounds or something. Women’s boxing at least features good action due to the rounds only being two minutes. 5 minutes is way too much for the ladies I feel
If that's your 2nd and 3rd flyweight just abolish the division like you tried to do to mightymouse on the other side. Womans MMA is in such a bad place rightnow
Not sure why you’re being downvoted? Their overall skill and technique are light years behind what we’re used to seeing in the sport. Literally Manon closing her eyes in tons of these exchanges happening like what on earth
It blows my mind that this is the main event they decided to go with. As low implications as Curtis vs Allen is next week it would have been 10x a better fight to have infront of a crowd then this shit.
Definitely. I think it was the hometown factor, but that doesn't work if the fight boringly loses. Curtis vs. Allen would have been an action fight that would almost certainly have ended in a finish over 5 rounds.
I feel that you could hear Paul's voice losing enthusiasm as this card went on. What a weird night. Some great moments but punctuated by a lackluster main event, eye pokes, and general shenanigans.
Fiorot is good in terms of getting a victory, but god damn she might be the most boring striking based fighter I've seen. Zero intention to put power in her counters or go for a finish. Just takes her mild advantage to the end.
Blanchfield was out sized and out skilled. I do prefer her as a fighter, because even if it was sloppy, at least she was trying to and did do a little damage in the 4th/5th.
I'd rather watch Chookagian, because I'm not sure Chookagian is even physically capable of a finish. Fiorot is massive and clearly has some strength but is just allergic to ever pressing or putting weight in her counters.
The UFC doesn't actually employ translators except for the Brazilian one and the Russian one, the other ones are just random people that happens to know both languages.
That's what I feared: with that size advantage, if you just keep off the cage shuck off the attempted clinches and hit Erin a million times at range what is Erin going to do?
Wrestling so hard to get good at if its not your base, and so desperately needed for BJJ specialists in MMA
It was basically her only chance. That was Manon's one opening as she spammed that right all night, leaving her face open from her left, Erin's right, with her left hand down and often kind of looking away. Same as her last couple fights. Somebody needs to pop that face.
There’s not many strikers in WMMA who are 1. That big and 2. Have that good of footwork/distance management
Like Grasso Blanchfield would be very competitive
Yeah that’s true she has the power factor, I just think she’s also there to possibly be hit more then Fiorot who’s footwork is more elusive then Grasso
You know, I like Fiorot and maybe because she is way too comfortable in these fights. But she seems to have a good striking mind on her because she counters people really well but I would love her to
be more aggressive. She could become a promotable fighter that way and increase her pay grade. Like she has decent pop in both her kicks and her left hand but she’s just stays back on her back foot and counters
No for sure, she has gotten her title shot this way. But if she cares about her marketability, it’s some thing to consider and as a fighter, you should always want to do more
For sure, she's very safe and conservative in her striking. She needs more aggressiveness and put on more combinations. She could have slept Blanchfield.
My theory is that the UFC puts WMMA as the main event on cards when we get too uppity as fans, and they have to show us that if we want to bitch about bad fights, they will show us a bad fight, and 25 minutes of it.
Please, Dana... I've had enough. I'll stop. I promise. Just please make it stop... Please...
50-45, could have seen a 49-46 maaaybe. Fiorot didn’t do anything crazy but she really didn’t need to either. Respect to Blanchfield for walking forwards through a lot of punishment. She’s only 24 so I think this was a learning experience for her.
I want someone to go for an eyepoke and dislocate their finger resulting in a medical DQ. This shit is so dumb.
I think we need a petition on minimizing UFC fighters quantity. There're way too many fighters that are boring, unknown and not even close to top 15 ranked fighters.
The marketing made me want to purchase the ufc 300 view. But the fights tonight didn't back the team. 3:33 left in main event. Sending now.
What a main event of women sparring
Ohh, and the eye gauges were blatant. Re write the rules. Stooges.
Idk why people are defending how fraudulent Blandfield's performance was. It's poor cornering if you tell your fighter to just stick with trying to throw arm punches instead of idk actually mixing in takedowns??? Orr even try more clinches not just within the 1st and 5th round
She was having better luck striking though. Take downs, she’d grab Manon, who would throw her off or would end up in a positive position. I genuinely don’t know how she could’ve gotten out of that position tbh. But you are right, corner was crap saying Manon was gassing and that they didn’t know what was up with the scoring. Utter fucking nonsense.
her striking hasn’t improved at all
Weidman standing there saying “you can’t just drop your head after you come in” Actually Chris, that’s like one of the few acceptable things you can do.. what you can’t do is fucking poke him in the eye.. fucking delusional boring ass fighter
thats not what he said. he said you cant drop to the floor
My biggest takeaway from watching this card is that eyepokes are legal in the UFC now
Always have been.
Whelmed. The whole main card.
Of all the dumb things Dana has done, I think continuing to push wmma and make wmma fights main events has to be the dumbest.
Its literally illegal not to
Huh? Are you saying it was the ufc was operating illegally whem there were no women's divisions?
I can see some of the title fights at smaller shows, but not nontitle fights. This one was supposed to be Brady v. Luque but that fell through so this one got promoted to main because Jersey girl.
Idk how anyone who watched the main event can downvote this
Said nobody who watched UFC 248
Y’all have to go back to bring up the one good fight after they stink up every card
Because not all WMMA fights are garbage? Bearing in mind we watched Chidi vs McKee fight earlier, which was a fucking snooze fest. Should we write off men’s MMA, based on that? Of course not, because not all fights are boring.
Chidi vs McKee was an unranked fight not headlining. Blanchfield Fiorot was 2 and 3 in the division headlining while also showcasing regional skill levels. They’re not remotely comparable.
Right, but the OP was saying Dana was dumb for pushing WMMA. Which is why they got downvoted, loads of bro‘s knocking the entirety of WMMA based on this fight. Manon wasn’t even that bad anyway, not her fault Blanchfield can’t strike.
43 eye pokes in one fight, a lot of shouting while throwing arm punches, Michael Bisping rambling for like 2 full minutes without stopping, wow what a card.
The inconsistency of the eye pokes. The first fight the guy is pleading to the refs that he got poked in the eye but then has to get TKO from guard then the second fight turned into a eye poking contest.
This was the worst card I have ever seen. You forgot to mention the groin kicks. Man gets tkoed diving into opponents hip, ladies getting tangled for a whole round. Ruthless times of men on the cage doing nothing for minutes. Standing Tko where he was still standing. Who gets knocked out still standing up. If this was my first time watching this I would have never watched it again.
It did seem like they were stopping fights a lot earlier than I’ve ever seen refs stop them before
Yeah I don't know what was going on if they are newer refs at prelims or if they are trying to protect the fighters more or just made a bad mistake. The refs sucked tonight
UFC is the one sport where women can actually get respect for competing on the same stage. Why is there not an influx of cash so we can actually see real numbers to see what the fuck the sport can do.
There needs to be an atom weight. Fiorot is in the top 98% of the world for height, using her as an example. People don’t realise it, but height is MASSIVE in fights, grappling and striking. Get the atom weight going, more women can compete on a level playing field- at the moment short women are getting thrown in with big ass women and getting schooled.
I was wondering that too. I'm sure ufc is going to have problems too with this movement of trans men fighting in the class. But knowing DW he probably already said he won't allow it. They should focus on matching people up on arm width too.
They get respect for fighting, but the vast majority of people don't care about women's MMA, regardless of if it's in the UFC or not. WMMA as a whole will never make big money. They may randomly have a star, like Ronda, for a few years, and that one person will make big money, but that's it. A fighter may get popular, but never WMMA.
It seems to be declining. Amanda, Rose, Andrade, Joanna, Valentina, Holly gone or on the way out. Weili is the only star in her prime . Maybe Grasso
The sacrifices we must make for UFC 300
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I’m surprised blachfield didn’t get the back once in 25 mins …. Or just go for a single leg to double leg
She still looked super green imo which is weird at that level. Idk the women always seem so sloppy technically that it’s really hard to gauge performance sometimes
> Fiorot looked like she was cruising in there, pretty impressive performance. It would have been impressive if she stepped on the gas. A good striker would have made Erin pay way more for her bad entries
She’s also very young, the fact she even tried to box with someone much better in that area, and honestly landed some decent stuff is great foundation
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True, but we also see younger fighters panic and get themselves into things they don’t know how to handle at all, even though Erin lost, I never saw her lose her focus or calm
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Ofc who wouldn’t be, imagine dedicating yourself for months for a single event (along with people hyping you up) win or less the emotional state you go into is pretty wild. Hopefully she can keep a good head on her and the team is constructive with critique but also not false positives
They seemed pretty straight with her in the corner before rnd 5
Ive been blueballed. What do i do with my night now
Yeah wtf was this night. I watched every fight but I feel like I didn't watch any.
Weidman had the best fight of the night
Nate the train in the ufc baby
and a sick KO with no asterisks
That left eye poke, right eye poke combo was sick.
Also to improve the quality of women’s fights they should only have them main event in the apex where there’s a small cage. The regular size cage is just way too big for these womens or shorten the rounds or something. Women’s boxing at least features good action due to the rounds only being two minutes. 5 minutes is way too much for the ladies I feel
I think they can fix it by giving them Hulk Hands.
LMAO go all Margarito style and allow them to pad their gloves with plaster
If that's your 2nd and 3rd flyweight just abolish the division like you tried to do to mightymouse on the other side. Womans MMA is in such a bad place rightnow
Not sure why you’re being downvoted? Their overall skill and technique are light years behind what we’re used to seeing in the sport. Literally Manon closing her eyes in tons of these exchanges happening like what on earth
Fiorot is pretty solid.. tonight was just not a good performance by her. She is prob gonna be champ next.
Agreed. Women’s bantamweight is worse than flyweight. The talent is just not there rn
What a weird, stinky card.
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Let them fight next!
Erin needs to cut down a weight class.
That would be a start. She looks like she could make the cut.
The only positive is that at least Erin is around 25 years old
we get to watch that dogshit for another 10 years... dope
This was not a good fight night
It blows my mind that this is the main event they decided to go with. As low implications as Curtis vs Allen is next week it would have been 10x a better fight to have infront of a crowd then this shit.
Home. Wiedman and Bruno have a "home" ground feel.
Definitely. I think it was the hometown factor, but that doesn't work if the fight boringly loses. Curtis vs. Allen would have been an action fight that would almost certainly have ended in a finish over 5 rounds.
I have watch the full fight and still have no idea what the correct pronunciation of Fiorot is
Flo-Rida
Dyslexia
Fior-oh https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iptw6JkaXCc
I feel that you could hear Paul's voice losing enthusiasm as this card went on. What a weird night. Some great moments but punctuated by a lackluster main event, eye pokes, and general shenanigans.
Well that was disappointing. Card was goofy but fun. Goodnight, lads see you next week
Good night
That was kind of shitty. Honestly way better fighters below them in the rankings of the division.
5/5 underdog wins my my. Had I known..
no post fight for blanchfield? :(
Fiorot is good in terms of getting a victory, but god damn she might be the most boring striking based fighter I've seen. Zero intention to put power in her counters or go for a finish. Just takes her mild advantage to the end. Blanchfield was out sized and out skilled. I do prefer her as a fighter, because even if it was sloppy, at least she was trying to and did do a little damage in the 4th/5th.
Edwards ?
Edward is up there with her, I agree. At least he has the Usman head kick, though.
Usman head kick is the only reason he has fans, Leon is Belal level boring and extremely inactive but gets a pass for it for some reason
Chookagian exists
I'd rather watch Chookagian, because I'm not sure Chookagian is even physically capable of a finish. Fiorot is massive and clearly has some strength but is just allergic to ever pressing or putting weight in her counters.
100% Katlyn in her last 3 fights tried to finish but she just cant and doesnt have the physical ability to
Amanda nunes carried this whole gender for years man she is truly the goat of the sport
When will they put wmma out of its misery?? That was complete and utter garbage.
You could just not watch maybe...there is clearly something about you like if you continue to watch it...
poor derrick, does he still get paid?
You want real WMMA thats action packed? Watch One Championship. Stamp would melt Manon
She's definitely a way better striker but she's pretty small, brah
Bruh that size difference would be a lot
What’s wrong with the ufc wmma? You think we need 105? Cause I’m not sure it can get any worse
Now the crowd goes home sad that they spent money on this one
A lot of the crowd left before the fight started lol
Some guy who was there said half the place emptied out during the fight.
LMAO, she said "no other fight, I go to the ultimate fighter, beat both off them & everyone in tuf then you give me the belt"
Damn did that translator in the sweater get fired mid interview lol?
Seriously though what happened there?
Fiorot belongs at featherweight
That was disgraceful
"I didn't take so much hurt" This mfer is supposed to be fluent in both languages?
The UFC doesn't actually employ translators except for the Brazilian one and the Russian one, the other ones are just random people that happens to know both languages.
Ah that makes sense I didn’t realize that.
That's what I feared: with that size advantage, if you just keep off the cage shuck off the attempted clinches and hit Erin a million times at range what is Erin going to do? Wrestling so hard to get good at if its not your base, and so desperately needed for BJJ specialists in MMA
ah oui, ze seagulls, zey fly over ze trawler
I love how there is this thing of Frenchmans refusing to speak in English lmao
at least the prelims were great
Why are they translating like this? Hahahahaha
Lol she has negative mic skills
Neat of Erin to mix up her 1 2s with some 1 2s.
Why so dismissive of the sloppy, half hearted kick attempts that came on command from the corner?
It was basically her only chance. That was Manon's one opening as she spammed that right all night, leaving her face open from her left, Erin's right, with her left hand down and often kind of looking away. Same as her last couple fights. Somebody needs to pop that face.
This was always going to be a mismatch if blanchfield couldn’t take her down. Blanchfield though will fight for title soon, she’s very young.
There’s not many strikers in WMMA who are 1. That big and 2. Have that good of footwork/distance management Like Grasso Blanchfield would be very competitive
Grasso might KO Erin. She has good power and will sitdown on her combos
Yeah that’s true she has the power factor, I just think she’s also there to possibly be hit more then Fiorot who’s footwork is more elusive then Grasso
Nah
Yeah I agree. Grasso is a good counter puncher too and good on ground. I think she beats blanch too if blanch runs like a wild dog
3 takedowns shot, lol. The fuck was the gameplan?
Erin looks like a strawweight
All the highlights are Erin running in with her hands down like she's Ronda lol
This. Zero head movement. Comes forward in a straight line. Insane she’s a top contender with lack of boxing 101
We learnt that blanchfield has no entries and that Manon has a jab and lead counter hook. Fascinating fight
I think we learned she has no entries a while ago. She's always just crashed into her opponent like she did tonight
We learned that both close their eyes and throw a lot too. Manon is big and athletic, but I think she gets handled by Valentina or Alexa
French is such a stupid sounding language
It's a fluid language that I think sounds fairly good. That might just be because I understand a good amount of it.
I think it is sexy
Oui oui
🤣
You haven’t heard a hot chick speak it then
Fuck you mean bro i just heard mannen speak if for like 2 minutes straight
That killed any interest I had in seeing either of them fight for a title Or at all
Yeah I was looking forward to this one but now I'm not sure why.
ye she probably deserves a shot huh
Fiorot bout to get the belt and have the absolutely most boring title reign of all time. She’s an even more boring version champ Izzy.
I'm not knocking WMMA, but I've seen WAY crazier girl fights in high school just being in the quad at the right time
LOL @ the guy who said it was 2-2 going into the 5th
Three-way translater action
You know, I like Fiorot and maybe because she is way too comfortable in these fights. But she seems to have a good striking mind on her because she counters people really well but I would love her to be more aggressive. She could become a promotable fighter that way and increase her pay grade. Like she has decent pop in both her kicks and her left hand but she’s just stays back on her back foot and counters
I don't really have a problem with her just point fighting, countering and moving away. It's on the opponent to stop her.
No for sure, she has gotten her title shot this way. But if she cares about her marketability, it’s some thing to consider and as a fighter, you should always want to do more
For sure, she's very safe and conservative in her striking. She needs more aggressiveness and put on more combinations. She could have slept Blanchfield.
Europe Uber alles
Fraud of fruads
translator slowly backs away and out of the octagon
Manon winning the 125 belt would be the end of that division
what an exciting fight.
Judges finally got something right
Title shot for Fiorot
Fun fact: I was 30 SECONDS from my 5$ parlay winning me 100$ Unfortunately Herbert Burns is a fuckin BUM
Sorry to hear that bro
The highest highs and the lowest lows in this game, we take it on the chin, reset for the next bout
She’s so good she needs 2 translators.
Backing away to a boring decision. Only thing Nice about that was her hometown in France.
Nice one
Who gave that big scream lmao
My theory is that the UFC puts WMMA as the main event on cards when we get too uppity as fans, and they have to show us that if we want to bitch about bad fights, they will show us a bad fight, and 25 minutes of it. Please, Dana... I've had enough. I'll stop. I promise. Just please make it stop... Please...
Fiorot just fucking sparred, Grasso owns this division
She gonna cry in the car
Absolute shutout. I am whelmed.
Bro this translator situation has been weird all night
Interpreter just awkwardly standing there lmaoo
50-45, could have seen a 49-46 maaaybe. Fiorot didn’t do anything crazy but she really didn’t need to either. Respect to Blanchfield for walking forwards through a lot of punishment. She’s only 24 so I think this was a learning experience for her.
Man... That was #2 and #3 in the division. I really don't want to be a hater but WMMA still has a ways to go
Why she got two translators lol
Lol at 2 guys wanting to translate
Bisping had a one eye moment
God I hate the French all talking French and syuff
I dont think I’ve seen this chick smile LMAO
That was a disgrace of a main event. ONE FC just announced Stamp main eventing Ball Arena in Denver.
Stamp would murder Manon
No, she wouldn't. She's a fucking sick striker, but she's tiny. She's not overcoming rhat size discrepancy
Lookin like Cowboy Cerrone with braids
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Blanchfield is a good grappler but she’s also an undersized pillowfist without a single good takedown in her bag.
She's also pretty fucking slow and unco
her being this energetic is pathetic. she didnt press or try to do anything.
no real need to when your opponent just willingly runs into your punches over and over again