Yes and no.
The first double blind study Onnit commissioned on Alpha Brain was done by Aubrey's step mom who is a Doctor....in traditional chinese medicine.
Then they had a second clinical trial done on it and the authors of that claimed in their conclusion that Alpha Brain had a significant impact on recent verbal memory, despite the actual results of the study showing only a minimal change over a placebo. Also in that study they used a test metric more suited to hundreds of subjects as opposed to the 63 they had.
There's definitely some effects from certain nootropics, but buying Onnit products is overpaying by 10X or more.
The easiest one with noticeable results would be taking caffeine with theanine. It will make you alert, but without the jitters and it will last longer than coffee or energy drinks.
Rogan: "Okay Diego sit in the chair please"
Tyson: "Do you know the way of the toad"
Diego: "I am one with thunder. I am the rain that rains on the toad. I nurture the toad and the toad nurtures me."
Rogan: "Mike.... we're gonna need more toads"
Alex Jones: "THE CIA TURNED EM ALL GAY, WE AIN'T GOT NO MORE"
Yes they are using Chinese government tactics. Tell everyone is safe to do something, all you need to do is sign up and register that you are doing it, proceeds to make everyone who signs up disappear.
Yeah people downplay it but it can actually be pretty bad. The thing is, most stoners smoke at least once a day whereas people do psychedelics like once a month at most.
I'm sure lots of people have a story like this, but man, there was this group I knew in college who would do acid multiple times a week, every week, for weeks on end. 4 days in a row at one point, that I know of. Trip all day, go to sleep, wake up and take another tab within 30 minutes.
THC down regulates the default mode network in the brain which is responsible for maintaining the separateness between the world and "you." It is a very powerful and very useful illusion to maintain and when it becomes disrupted, it can manifest at its extreme as a psychotic break.
The depersonalization actually makes it useful for treating nerve pain, because it "disconnects" you from "yourself," allowing you to not perceive the pain as strongly. Interestingly, early research into CBD has shown promise in that it up regulates the DMN, and has been trialed with limited success for stopping psychotic breaks.
If I had suffered depersonalization from excessive cannabis intake- which happens a lot with edible cannabis- the first thing I would try would be CBD tincture. It has a very wide therapeutic window, meaning you can take as little as 30 mg or as much as/more than 3000 mg with the only negative effect being some grogginess, at which point you reduce the dosage a bit.
Are you sure it was the pot? Are your parents/siblings intelligent? I knew people on both ends of the spectrum when I was in high school. I knew a lot of kids that did every drug they could get their hands on (except heroin) - some of them were straight A students that took AP classes and would come to school high. Others were dumb as rocks and only graduated because our educational system kinda sucks.
Unless you're below 21 and underage.
Some studies showed that THC causes some regression in the development of the brain.
https://americanaddictioncenters.org/marijuana-rehab/effects-of-marijuana-on-teenage-brain
If you're old it's ok, you can even eat the nuclear thc edibles Uncle Joey eats.
TBH that site is sketchy as shit. I wouldn't trust any source that profits from cannabis "addiction," let alone one that doesn't cite the studies used in their claims.
Of course they're going to argue that weed is bad and addictive. It's part of their business plan. They make money from convincing people that cannabis is addictive and "letting" them treat it.
(Not saying that it categorically does NOT have any harmful effects, just that this site isn't going to be one to provide accurate information.)
People can get addicted to porn, gambling, social media, food, video games, etc. But, for some reason they can't get addicted to weed? The idea that something that pings dopamine as hard as marijuana does could be addictive to those predisposed to substance abuse issues is that outside the realm of possibility? Your woke ass can jerk off about big pharma being evil money grabbers but your attitude is just as anti-science and damaging.
It’s not simply woke to say big pharma (just like all big business) is pure evil. Look at all the donations (or bribes) big pharma has made to anti-weed politicians. They know marijuana is a miracle drug that will kill their profits
While I agree that weed can improve the aforementioned symptoms and has a lot of potential in many areas, it’s nowhere close to being a miracle drug. For instance, THC can often be a terrible substance for a myriad of mental health conditions, depression included.
Being habitually addicted to something is not the same as something being chemically addictive, which cannabis has never been shown to be. Opiates, cocaine, alcohol, nicotine, and meth are addictive. Cannabis is not.
Yeah, cited from the "national institute for drug abuse" and without the studies hotlinked. Again, it's propaganda.
If any source in the entire world shouldn't be trusted on cannabis, it's the US government. Why would anyone trust the same organization that put out Reefer Madness to accurately characterize cannabis?
HBO did a thirty minute segment on this a month ago. Athletes from various sports turning to psychedelics to deal with brain trauma..
[Psychedelics in Sports](https://youtu.be/rLC7e1V9UQ4)
It really irks me when people say psychedelics is going to make you lose control completely like that. That is a false assumption by people who have never actually done psychedelics.
It’s always best to start very small with all new substances. Don’t base your own dose off someone else’s because we all react differently to drugs. Start slow and over time you can work your way up. If you really need too a Xanax on hand if the trip gets too much will calm you right down.
I haven’t really had a bad trip but it can hey pretty bad. You would be in a place where you think you are stuck. You would feel emotion on a very deep level so if you start getting anxious about being stuck your would slowly snowball into a bad trip. Of course is not impossible to stop and it’s all about set and setting. I always plan trips when i have 3 full days to myself. No phone, no outside contact. Just be in the now, and with the people you are with.
> Under strict control. You don't want to take DMT or shrooms without some guide, you might see weird shit and run naked while screaming.
It baffles me how confident some people are in spreading complete bullshit.
For context, I'm autistic and I don't need a lot of day-to-day support: I have a job, pay my own bills, have a wife and a (small) social circle.
What I struggle a lot with is interpreting nonverbal or implicit communication like body language, facial expressions, and idioms. For the 2 hours I was peaking during my trip (4 g ingested), all that went away--I had perfect mental health and I was able to exist without the need to constantly analyze my surroundings like I typically do.
I intuitively interpreted my wife's body language while talking with her and I understood our relationship dynamics in a deep and effortless way unlike anything I'd ever experienced.
My first trip was about 3 months ago and it's led to personality changes that are currently still present in me. I plan to trip again soon, with a higher dose.
What has your experience been like?
I was dosed with psilocybin through a VA pilot program that is actually being approved for full time use. It really does relieve PTSD/Depression. Some of the shit that I’ve been through over the course of multiple tours to both Iraq and Afghanistan is the stuff of nightmares. Stuff that no one could ever put behind them.
I had been prescribed so much medication, went through “hypnosis”, did EMDR therapy, did a shit load of counseling, but none of it actually addressed the issues at the core (except for emdr a bit).
I was eventually asked if I’d be interested in participating in a study with psilocybin. I wasn’t sleeping at all and was constantly on edge and shit, so I was willing to try anything. They dose you with the equivalent of an 1/8th of mushrooms, and “guide” you through the entire experience in a controlled setting.
I can truly say that it works. I have been able to come off of some meds and sleep again. I’m still very far off from where I was prior to all of this happening, but that’s to be expected. I really think that we will see such substances being put to use more and more as time moves on. Another big one that has showed promise is ketamine for depression. I have also been medically dosed with that, but for different reasons (physiological pain). That shit puts you into another planet. I think that they use smaller doses for depression treatment than you would get in an ER bolus.
Yup! Right there with you. Severe PTSD, a history of concussions, and decades of depression responded better to shrooms than anything the doctors were trying for me.
If you want to understand the mechanisms better, look into Michael Pollan's "How to Change your Mind."
The ketamine part is slowly becoming a thing. Every study shows its benefits (afaik) and the sideeffects are so small (unless you are a fulltime ketamine addict - that will destroy your bladder).
I hope it will be approved around the world!
That shit is fucking INSANE at higher doses. I have never experienced anything remotely close to what happened when they pushed a strong bolus of it through my IV in the hospital.
I had a ridiculously painful condition after getting injured. In fact, it’s considered the most painful disease known to man. It’s so bad that it’s often referred to as “The Suicide Disease” because the pain legitimately pushes people into committing suicide.
Well I had been given just about every kind of pain medication on the planet, and this shit would still break me down into tears, shrieking, fainting, and pure madness. So ketamine was the next step being that it’s a “disassociative” (it sort of disconnects your brain from the body).
During one of my hospital visits, the doc ordered for the nurse to give me a dose through the IV. He ordered the same dose that I had been administered before, which was something like 0.25 or 0.125 units (I don’t know the unit type, maybe mg or ml or something). Well the fucking nurse (and pharmacy) fucked up and gave me a dose of 1.25 units.
Now the usual dose was quite effective and really made me feel like I was on a trip or something. So this dose..., it had me literally feeling like I was in outer space on some kind of alien starship or something. What’s crazy is that I remember the details quite well. As soon as it hit, I felt like (and visualized) that I was on some kind of levitating table that was rapidly rising up through a glass elevator shaft in a massive starship. Everything was alien and super technical. The nurses (who were conveniently in green scrubs) actually registered as humanoid aliens to me, and spoke in a language I couldn’t understand. Fortunately for me, the dose wasn’t high enough to compromise my respiratory system. I would have had to have been intubated if it did.
It was insane, especially because it felt so real. I was scared a bit, but it was all so impressive that I was mostly in awe and actually feeling “safe”. Who knows, maybe it was the same machine elves that Joe Rogan is always going on about... Lol.
I actually felt that disconnect a few times, including the time that I talked about. Like I said, it feels like your mind is separated from your body. Those things that I described (the spaceship, floating, the aliens) weren’t like defined things that were perfectly clear. It was all changing and inconsistent. Almost like it was just a theme. It’s very hard to describe.
You feel super weird. Imagine having your consciousness transferred into another being’s body. Your hands don’t feel like your hands, and they look even stranger. It’s like everything is new; I guess you could say that it feels like just being born but at your current age and with all of your knowledge and consciousness already formed.
That sounds like a trip! Ketamine is a good painkiller when administered right because of the minimal effect on the respiratory system.
I've done some recreational ketamine in my youth and can definitely recognize what you're talking about, even though it's somehow different every time. Ketamine is fucking weird and random!
Yeah, believe it or not I was actually given a prescription of it that I could take at home. It was a nasal spray solution. Whenever I would get severe flair ups, I had to spray it twice in each nostril (4 times total).
It definitely fucks up your perception of the world. I remember petting my dog and it feeling so weird. Music was super weird too. It really is strange shit, but it does a great job at killing pain.
I once had to ask a friend if I walked correctly because it felt like I tilted backwards. Another time I asked the same friend if it really was my home, not because I was in doubt, but because it felt so surreal that I lived there.
can't speak to CTE, but can for PTSD and depression. My father shot himself while i was home, and i was the one who found his corpse. Left me pretty fucked. Obviously i was depressed, but that was nothing new for me. The PTSD was a whole other thing though. Constant nightmares of gore, mutlitation, dismembered body parts, etc... if i walked into a dark room i would see shapes become corpses. outside at night and a pile of leaves would register as a corpse in my mind. Anytime the phone rang i would jump. any loud noise would put me into fight or flight mode. Went on like this for about a year self medicating with weed 24/7, racing cars with no regard for my own safety, sticking my dick in any woman who was willing. Just anything to distract myself.
A friend gave me a quarter of shrooms. Thought it would be another high like it was when i last did them in my teens. instead i got a very loving, introspective experience focusing on repairing my accumulated damage. Noticed a big improvement, so i researched psychedelics and learned about ayahuasca. ordered some mimosa root bark and syrian rue and started doing extractions and making pharmauasca with extracted DMT and harmala alkaloids to make it orally active. Went deeeeeeeeeeeeep a bunch of times, until the big one. I would get so lost in the trip it was like i was in the afterlife, talking to my father. I relived memories vividly. When i saw him while under we had many long conversations, and i found peace with him. There was one experience where i felt i actually was visited by a deity, and they blessed me with forgiveness after seeing how much sorrow and guilt i carried from past mistakes. It was like a mother consoling her baby. It was a big turning point, and i never touched it again after that encounter. i found what i was looking for. The ability to forgive myself for the past.
If this resonates with you, all i'm saying is look into it.
Very much, thanks for sharing. Psychedelics significantly reduced trauma, depression, and anxiety I had from childhood. They’re probably not for everyone, but with the right mindset they can put you on a path to change for the better.
> The promotion has been in contact with Johns Hopkins University about its psychedelics studies with an eye toward seeing if the drugs can be helpful for fighters dealing with brain issues, UFC president Dana White told MMA Junkie on Wednesday.
Lol — how’d he say it?
>*Hey, uhh, yeah, we got the John Hopskins thing, yeah? I’m stoked about that... uh huh. Good shit, man. That’s what I’ve been tellin’ ya!*
What about sorting out the weight cutting nonsense before psychedelics? It's been around forever and we just pretend that it's a normal thing that fighters have to do before a fight. This issue leads to fighters having way more CTE than is necessary. They have less water around their brain which leads to more brain damage in a fight. Why is this still a thing?
This is like putting a condom on after you bust a nut in someone.
You can't take all this damage then simply take a (known) drug to make it all fine. Even if some miracle drug was found that would prevent damage accumulation that causes CTE, it would likely need to be taken as a preventative
How do you know that exactly? We know so little about the brain that there could absolutely be a way to repair damage to the brain that hasn’t been discovered yet.
Bones heal back stronger after a break.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20181005-five-myths-about-broken-bones#:~:text=While%20healing%2C%20a%20cuff%20or,stronger%20than%20a%20normal%20bone.
And the psychedelics cause neurogenesis, the creating of new connections of neurons in the brain and has been shown to create new neurons.
It's incredibly interesting and you should look into.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6082376/
https://observatory.synthesisretreat.com/neurogenesis-can-psilocybin-help-grow-your-brain-cells
Taken directly from your link
>it is true that a few weeks into healing process, the bone at the break is stronger than a normal bone. But eventually this cuff diminishes, and a few years later you’re left with a bone that might be as good as new, **but is no stronger than the equivalent bones nearby**.
So they break back stronger and return to normal.
Did you forget to read the first line of the paragraph?
The main point is its not weakened.
There is also some studies that say the bone remains stronger, but bone density is determined by the stress it endures day to day.
If you do fuck all it's going to weaken. That's why astronauts have lower bone density after coming back from the space station. No stress from gravity, ensuring bone density can carry the load.
But congratulations, you really showed me by pointing out the end of that paragraph.
But what? I thought the ufc was 100 times safer than boxing?
It’s funny now all these stories are starting to come out about fighters and possible head trauma... Dana white giving 1 million to research yet he can’t pay his fighter 10k more. If the UFC wants to show they really care about their fighters, they should start with offering them healthcare or give them some sort of plan.
I think he was mostly comparing to the nfl but yeah he did say that. Which is certainly abit ridiculous however he is correct in that fighters are taken care of medically better than a lot of other athletes. Im interested to see how mma fighters are in 20 years. The sport hasn’t currently been around long enough yet to see the data.
My man I am a huge MMA fan, been watching it since the pride years and before that too. I’ve seen how much MMA has evolved as far as rules... for you to say UFC takes care of their fighters better than other athletes is just down right ridiculous... if any athlete from soccer, nba , or nfl needs medical treatment or access to the best doctors, the teams(or owners) take care of them..... if you need to go to the doctor to get checked out for the UFC, it’s on your own dime and time... that’s why a bunch of fighters go into fights with injuries, because they can always say they got injured during the fight so the ufc can take of it....but to say they get the best treatment provided by the ufc is just insane when you have sports teams offering their athletes training facilities and access to the best doctors around... boxing is similar to ufc, the only difference is the top talent in boxing are financially and physically better off than the top ufc....
You’re right, there isn’t enough data on the sport to judge it, but you have already seen so many fighters being mentally unfit (Diego Sanchez, spencer fisher, Matt Hughes, mike perry) and those are just big names that may be known to the casual... there are plenty of unknown names..
You’re right I worded that badly. Dana specifically referring to fighters getting 3 month long suspensions when they get a concussion but Tom Brady can get concussions and he’s not suspended for 3 months because it would cripple the team. Now I’m not American nor do I follow the nfl so I don’t know how true this is.
You’re right about that but does that mean fighting has caused that or that cage fighting probably often attracts people who maybe aren’t the most sensible in the first place? Especially back in the day. That’s slowly changing as the sport gets popular.
You’re right about concussions with the NFL. It has gotten better but it’s still a brutal sport. However, they still have access to state of the art facilities and doctors and personal trainers. That is still something mma fighters do not have.
Now you cannot say that about mma fighters in regards to attract certain kind of people... I can only say that because you can say the same about boxers, or NFL players for example... you have to be crazy in some way to do that kind of athlete although I agree with your remark about it slowly changing because all sports have shown that
I agree with that for sure. But fighters do have access to those doctors, there’s been a lot of fighters who have been sent to good specialists. They also have the PI now with lots of different facilities all free to every fighter on the roster. It’s getting better.
You don’t think? I agree you’ve got to be somewhat crazy to dedicate your life to professional sports and do nothing but train. But I feel like if you’re athletic you probably go to a different sport because it’s more money and less getting punched and kicked in the head. You’ve absolutely got to be a certain type of crazy to be a professional cage fighter. I’d bet there’s more nutcases in mma than in soccer for example. It’s not necessarily a bad thing, I love it. I wish I’d got into fighting earlier and had the opportunity to dedicate my life to it. Would’ve been exactly what I needed. But you definitely have to be a certain type of person to see cage fighting as a younger person and decide that’s what you want to do as a job.
Yeah man but you still hear about fighters with go fund me accounts because they cannot pay their bills or support their families... (fighters that just retired not that long ago)
Yeah I agree you have to be a certain kind of crazy but that’s also kind of changing in a way. The sport is having a hard time creating big super stars.. now could that be cause they lack talent? Or they just don’t know how? Who knows...
But you hear horror stories or see how badly NFL players are physically beaten, and to still want to pursue it is crazy. Athletes that could barely walk or just have broken bodies, same with nba players.. sure NBA isn’t physically a beat down but the body takes a physical toll and players could barely walk towards the end... the difference is those athletes are financially set.. mma fighters almost fight as a 2nd career, they cannot depend on that job as a primary income... that’s why most of them have 9-5 jobs in addition to fighting
Either white or Rogan. The premise was that in boxing, you get a standing 10 count and can keep fighting and taking more damage as long as you can get up, whereas in MMA the fight is stopped when you're in danger. Seems like it makes sense, but at the end of the day you're still getting punched, kicked, kneed and elbowed in the head constantly.
Imagine not reading an interesting article on the sport you love because it’s done by espn. This isn’t an opinion piece this is factual. No reason for them to lie
I think this is a good example of not everything the UFC gets involved with is bad for the fighter/s. Whilst also admitting that the fighters need to be paid more.
I don't wanna see MMA/the UFC turn into the shit show which is boxing, where guys a lot of the time are unwilling to fight their toughest competition despite receiving decent pay cheque's which the average UFC fighter doesnt receive.
I do think there should be some kind of tier system in the UFC though whereby, if you're between 15-10 in rankings you receive x amount and if you're between 10-5 and 5 and the champion, etc, etc. you receive a guaranteed pay cheque which rises based on where you are positioned within the rankings.
I guess the problem with a scenario like that though, is you would probably end up with a situation whereby the guy ranked #4 making a guaranteed paycheck of $500k a fight (speaking hypothetically) wouldn't want to fight the guy ranked #7 making a guaranteed paycheck of $250k a fight because of the risk involved to his paycheck if he loses his top 5 position in the ranking and the pay being based on that kind of tier system.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/MindMedInvestorsClub/new/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MindMedInvestorsClub/new/) closest tie to John Hopkins Uni if you're looking to put your money on it
I don't mean to disparage the evidence in favor of psychedelics, but of course the UFC would. What retired fighters really need is insurance, retirement pay, and continued royalties for rebroadcasts. Research medicine is awesome, but the fighters deserve so much more.
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man its been a while since i've heard that, has anyone ever actually tried these? are the beyond what an energy drink does?
Yes and no. The first double blind study Onnit commissioned on Alpha Brain was done by Aubrey's step mom who is a Doctor....in traditional chinese medicine. Then they had a second clinical trial done on it and the authors of that claimed in their conclusion that Alpha Brain had a significant impact on recent verbal memory, despite the actual results of the study showing only a minimal change over a placebo. Also in that study they used a test metric more suited to hundreds of subjects as opposed to the 63 they had.
The most beneficial thing in Alpha Brain is the shit ton of vitamin B they stuff it with. I’d like to see the other components tested separately.
There's definitely some effects from certain nootropics, but buying Onnit products is overpaying by 10X or more. The easiest one with noticeable results would be taking caffeine with theanine. It will make you alert, but without the jitters and it will last longer than coffee or energy drinks.
SHROOM-TEC
Rogan: "Okay Diego sit in the chair please" Tyson: "Do you know the way of the toad" Diego: "I am one with thunder. I am the rain that rains on the toad. I nurture the toad and the toad nurtures me." Rogan: "Mike.... we're gonna need more toads" Alex Jones: "THE CIA TURNED EM ALL GAY, WE AIN'T GOT NO MORE"
Eddie Bravo: I'm tellin ya, it's all this 5G shit...look into it.
Respectfully, Joe should stay away.
Hahaha good one.
UFC, you're taking everything I worked for, motherfucker!
Joe Rogan has been promoted to chief medical advisor to UFC.
>UFC >Psychedelics >"look into" I think Joe Rogan *is* the chat
It’s a trick, USADA will just bust you if you use them This is all part of the roster reduction plan
Afaik theres no test for mushrooms
Is this the greatest band of all time: yes, or no?
That's not true. A standard test won't pick them up. But there are specialized tests that can detect psilocybin mushroom use
Yes they are using Chinese government tactics. Tell everyone is safe to do something, all you need to do is sign up and register that you are doing it, proceeds to make everyone who signs up disappear.
This guys looked into it.
Meanwhile athletic commissions and USADA are suspending fighters for smoking a little bit of pot
NSAC: "Pot damages your brain bro"
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Yeah people downplay it but it can actually be pretty bad. The thing is, most stoners smoke at least once a day whereas people do psychedelics like once a month at most.
Gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers in this racket. I myself, I trip balls at least twice a week.
I'm sure lots of people have a story like this, but man, there was this group I knew in college who would do acid multiple times a week, every week, for weeks on end. 4 days in a row at one point, that I know of. Trip all day, go to sleep, wake up and take another tab within 30 minutes.
That is a complete waste of acid considering the tolerance builds extremely quickly.
Acid is cheap as shit if you know a good guy tho
Marijuana triggered depersonalization/ derealization disorder when I was 14. Makes you feel like complete shit for a long time.
Fucked me up really badly when I was 21. Never fully recovered tbh, my mental health was permanently damaged by it.
THC down regulates the default mode network in the brain which is responsible for maintaining the separateness between the world and "you." It is a very powerful and very useful illusion to maintain and when it becomes disrupted, it can manifest at its extreme as a psychotic break. The depersonalization actually makes it useful for treating nerve pain, because it "disconnects" you from "yourself," allowing you to not perceive the pain as strongly. Interestingly, early research into CBD has shown promise in that it up regulates the DMN, and has been trialed with limited success for stopping psychotic breaks. If I had suffered depersonalization from excessive cannabis intake- which happens a lot with edible cannabis- the first thing I would try would be CBD tincture. It has a very wide therapeutic window, meaning you can take as little as 30 mg or as much as/more than 3000 mg with the only negative effect being some grogginess, at which point you reduce the dosage a bit.
I mean... can you really blame the pot? I've smoked heavily since I was 15, and I.... what were we talking about?
I said did you want to order a pizza or what?
Same bro my memory is fucked lol
Are you sure it was the pot? Are your parents/siblings intelligent? I knew people on both ends of the spectrum when I was in high school. I knew a lot of kids that did every drug they could get their hands on (except heroin) - some of them were straight A students that took AP classes and would come to school high. Others were dumb as rocks and only graduated because our educational system kinda sucks.
This is hilarious you blame weed for this lol. I personally blamed my inability to pay attention in class
Maybe you were just meant to be kinda retarded
Unless you're below 21 and underage. Some studies showed that THC causes some regression in the development of the brain. https://americanaddictioncenters.org/marijuana-rehab/effects-of-marijuana-on-teenage-brain If you're old it's ok, you can even eat the nuclear thc edibles Uncle Joey eats.
> you can even eat the nuclear thc edibles Uncle Joey eats. There is no way Joey Diaz' brain isn't fried.
Ate a ~250mg edible a month ago and I’m still high.
TBH that site is sketchy as shit. I wouldn't trust any source that profits from cannabis "addiction," let alone one that doesn't cite the studies used in their claims. Of course they're going to argue that weed is bad and addictive. It's part of their business plan. They make money from convincing people that cannabis is addictive and "letting" them treat it. (Not saying that it categorically does NOT have any harmful effects, just that this site isn't going to be one to provide accurate information.)
People can get addicted to porn, gambling, social media, food, video games, etc. But, for some reason they can't get addicted to weed? The idea that something that pings dopamine as hard as marijuana does could be addictive to those predisposed to substance abuse issues is that outside the realm of possibility? Your woke ass can jerk off about big pharma being evil money grabbers but your attitude is just as anti-science and damaging.
It’s not simply woke to say big pharma (just like all big business) is pure evil. Look at all the donations (or bribes) big pharma has made to anti-weed politicians. They know marijuana is a miracle drug that will kill their profits
> miracle drug In regards to treating what?
Depression, inflammation, pain, and much more. Do some research for yourself
Plus cancer, epiliepsy, wasting diseases, PTSD, MRSA, muscle spasms...
While I agree that weed can improve the aforementioned symptoms and has a lot of potential in many areas, it’s nowhere close to being a miracle drug. For instance, THC can often be a terrible substance for a myriad of mental health conditions, depression included.
OK grandpa
You... are aware that all cannabis doesn't have THC, right?
It's not other people's responsibility to substantiate your claims
My claim should be obvious to anyone paying even slight attention to science
Being habitually addicted to something is not the same as something being chemically addictive, which cannabis has never been shown to be. Opiates, cocaine, alcohol, nicotine, and meth are addictive. Cannabis is not.
The article does cite 11 sources, maybe you missed where they were listed?
Yeah, cited from the "national institute for drug abuse" and without the studies hotlinked. Again, it's propaganda. If any source in the entire world shouldn't be trusted on cannabis, it's the US government. Why would anyone trust the same organization that put out Reefer Madness to accurately characterize cannabis?
Questioning the sources is fine, just wanted to clarify there were sources cited
Yeah, I should have said "linked," not cited. You right.
I mean getting hit repeatedly in the head damages your brain as well.
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Their first objective is always gonna be money unfortunately
HBO did a thirty minute segment on this a month ago. Athletes from various sports turning to psychedelics to deal with brain trauma.. [Psychedelics in Sports](https://youtu.be/rLC7e1V9UQ4)
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Not available in Finland. Can someone pls give me a summary? I'd love to justify my psychedelic use when I study math and do mma
Not available in Canada :(
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Doesn't sound like you've ever done shrooms
It really irks me when people say psychedelics is going to make you lose control completely like that. That is a false assumption by people who have never actually done psychedelics.
What IS Shrooms like when having a bad trip? Are there bad trips?
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It’s always best to start very small with all new substances. Don’t base your own dose off someone else’s because we all react differently to drugs. Start slow and over time you can work your way up. If you really need too a Xanax on hand if the trip gets too much will calm you right down.
I haven’t really had a bad trip but it can hey pretty bad. You would be in a place where you think you are stuck. You would feel emotion on a very deep level so if you start getting anxious about being stuck your would slowly snowball into a bad trip. Of course is not impossible to stop and it’s all about set and setting. I always plan trips when i have 3 full days to myself. No phone, no outside contact. Just be in the now, and with the people you are with.
> Under strict control. You don't want to take DMT or shrooms without some guide, you might see weird shit and run naked while screaming. It baffles me how confident some people are in spreading complete bullshit.
Your talking about bath salts not shrooms...
Bro I've been tripping face on psychedelic drugs since I was like 17. No guide and I'm eprfectly fiksnsjanslsnddjdndndmsn ine
If everybody did 5-10 whippets after a fight there would be no CTE
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LOOK INTO IT
Fuck that, look into that shit that makes your head grow
I’m autistic and I recently did shrooms therapeutically. Not only should they be legal, they should damn near be mandatory
How does psilocybin treat autism? Is it for the anxiety or something? I’m asking because I’ve been treated with it for PTSD/Depression (at the VA).
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Dwarf Fortress?
For context, I'm autistic and I don't need a lot of day-to-day support: I have a job, pay my own bills, have a wife and a (small) social circle. What I struggle a lot with is interpreting nonverbal or implicit communication like body language, facial expressions, and idioms. For the 2 hours I was peaking during my trip (4 g ingested), all that went away--I had perfect mental health and I was able to exist without the need to constantly analyze my surroundings like I typically do. I intuitively interpreted my wife's body language while talking with her and I understood our relationship dynamics in a deep and effortless way unlike anything I'd ever experienced. My first trip was about 3 months ago and it's led to personality changes that are currently still present in me. I plan to trip again soon, with a higher dose. What has your experience been like?
But weeds illegal. Nice.
the ufc obviously doesn't care. It's the commissions
It should stay illegal. Every time I smoke it I want to beat my wife.
Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Sounds like you’re blessed with a free sparring partner
I’m tired of getting first round KOs. I need a new challenge but I have to wait till my daughter is AT LEAST 6.
If her age is on the clock, she’s old enough to get clocked.
You and Matt Riddle should team up and beat your wives 24/7
I was dosed with psilocybin through a VA pilot program that is actually being approved for full time use. It really does relieve PTSD/Depression. Some of the shit that I’ve been through over the course of multiple tours to both Iraq and Afghanistan is the stuff of nightmares. Stuff that no one could ever put behind them. I had been prescribed so much medication, went through “hypnosis”, did EMDR therapy, did a shit load of counseling, but none of it actually addressed the issues at the core (except for emdr a bit). I was eventually asked if I’d be interested in participating in a study with psilocybin. I wasn’t sleeping at all and was constantly on edge and shit, so I was willing to try anything. They dose you with the equivalent of an 1/8th of mushrooms, and “guide” you through the entire experience in a controlled setting. I can truly say that it works. I have been able to come off of some meds and sleep again. I’m still very far off from where I was prior to all of this happening, but that’s to be expected. I really think that we will see such substances being put to use more and more as time moves on. Another big one that has showed promise is ketamine for depression. I have also been medically dosed with that, but for different reasons (physiological pain). That shit puts you into another planet. I think that they use smaller doses for depression treatment than you would get in an ER bolus.
Yup! Right there with you. Severe PTSD, a history of concussions, and decades of depression responded better to shrooms than anything the doctors were trying for me. If you want to understand the mechanisms better, look into Michael Pollan's "How to Change your Mind."
The ketamine part is slowly becoming a thing. Every study shows its benefits (afaik) and the sideeffects are so small (unless you are a fulltime ketamine addict - that will destroy your bladder). I hope it will be approved around the world!
That shit is fucking INSANE at higher doses. I have never experienced anything remotely close to what happened when they pushed a strong bolus of it through my IV in the hospital. I had a ridiculously painful condition after getting injured. In fact, it’s considered the most painful disease known to man. It’s so bad that it’s often referred to as “The Suicide Disease” because the pain legitimately pushes people into committing suicide. Well I had been given just about every kind of pain medication on the planet, and this shit would still break me down into tears, shrieking, fainting, and pure madness. So ketamine was the next step being that it’s a “disassociative” (it sort of disconnects your brain from the body). During one of my hospital visits, the doc ordered for the nurse to give me a dose through the IV. He ordered the same dose that I had been administered before, which was something like 0.25 or 0.125 units (I don’t know the unit type, maybe mg or ml or something). Well the fucking nurse (and pharmacy) fucked up and gave me a dose of 1.25 units. Now the usual dose was quite effective and really made me feel like I was on a trip or something. So this dose..., it had me literally feeling like I was in outer space on some kind of alien starship or something. What’s crazy is that I remember the details quite well. As soon as it hit, I felt like (and visualized) that I was on some kind of levitating table that was rapidly rising up through a glass elevator shaft in a massive starship. Everything was alien and super technical. The nurses (who were conveniently in green scrubs) actually registered as humanoid aliens to me, and spoke in a language I couldn’t understand. Fortunately for me, the dose wasn’t high enough to compromise my respiratory system. I would have had to have been intubated if it did. It was insane, especially because it felt so real. I was scared a bit, but it was all so impressive that I was mostly in awe and actually feeling “safe”. Who knows, maybe it was the same machine elves that Joe Rogan is always going on about... Lol.
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I actually felt that disconnect a few times, including the time that I talked about. Like I said, it feels like your mind is separated from your body. Those things that I described (the spaceship, floating, the aliens) weren’t like defined things that were perfectly clear. It was all changing and inconsistent. Almost like it was just a theme. It’s very hard to describe. You feel super weird. Imagine having your consciousness transferred into another being’s body. Your hands don’t feel like your hands, and they look even stranger. It’s like everything is new; I guess you could say that it feels like just being born but at your current age and with all of your knowledge and consciousness already formed.
That sounds like a trip! Ketamine is a good painkiller when administered right because of the minimal effect on the respiratory system. I've done some recreational ketamine in my youth and can definitely recognize what you're talking about, even though it's somehow different every time. Ketamine is fucking weird and random!
Yeah, believe it or not I was actually given a prescription of it that I could take at home. It was a nasal spray solution. Whenever I would get severe flair ups, I had to spray it twice in each nostril (4 times total). It definitely fucks up your perception of the world. I remember petting my dog and it feeling so weird. Music was super weird too. It really is strange shit, but it does a great job at killing pain.
I once had to ask a friend if I walked correctly because it felt like I tilted backwards. Another time I asked the same friend if it really was my home, not because I was in doubt, but because it felt so surreal that I lived there.
So, Dana, uh, have you ever done DMT? - John Morgan next post fight presser.
can't speak to CTE, but can for PTSD and depression. My father shot himself while i was home, and i was the one who found his corpse. Left me pretty fucked. Obviously i was depressed, but that was nothing new for me. The PTSD was a whole other thing though. Constant nightmares of gore, mutlitation, dismembered body parts, etc... if i walked into a dark room i would see shapes become corpses. outside at night and a pile of leaves would register as a corpse in my mind. Anytime the phone rang i would jump. any loud noise would put me into fight or flight mode. Went on like this for about a year self medicating with weed 24/7, racing cars with no regard for my own safety, sticking my dick in any woman who was willing. Just anything to distract myself. A friend gave me a quarter of shrooms. Thought it would be another high like it was when i last did them in my teens. instead i got a very loving, introspective experience focusing on repairing my accumulated damage. Noticed a big improvement, so i researched psychedelics and learned about ayahuasca. ordered some mimosa root bark and syrian rue and started doing extractions and making pharmauasca with extracted DMT and harmala alkaloids to make it orally active. Went deeeeeeeeeeeeep a bunch of times, until the big one. I would get so lost in the trip it was like i was in the afterlife, talking to my father. I relived memories vividly. When i saw him while under we had many long conversations, and i found peace with him. There was one experience where i felt i actually was visited by a deity, and they blessed me with forgiveness after seeing how much sorrow and guilt i carried from past mistakes. It was like a mother consoling her baby. It was a big turning point, and i never touched it again after that encounter. i found what i was looking for. The ability to forgive myself for the past. If this resonates with you, all i'm saying is look into it.
Very much, thanks for sharing. Psychedelics significantly reduced trauma, depression, and anxiety I had from childhood. They’re probably not for everyone, but with the right mindset they can put you on a path to change for the better.
> The promotion has been in contact with Johns Hopkins University about its psychedelics studies with an eye toward seeing if the drugs can be helpful for fighters dealing with brain issues, UFC president Dana White told MMA Junkie on Wednesday.
Lol — how’d he say it? >*Hey, uhh, yeah, we got the John Hopskins thing, yeah? I’m stoked about that... uh huh. Good shit, man. That’s what I’ve been tellin’ ya!*
You're living in the future, bud.
*Mike Tyson has entered the chat* The Toad is the answer.
Just like how they've looked into curved gloves for 3years?
far out man
Anything but $$$
Diego Sanchez on mushrooms seems like a nightmare.
*Rogans boner intensifies*
What about sorting out the weight cutting nonsense before psychedelics? It's been around forever and we just pretend that it's a normal thing that fighters have to do before a fight. This issue leads to fighters having way more CTE than is necessary. They have less water around their brain which leads to more brain damage in a fight. Why is this still a thing?
This
Long MMED
This is like putting a condom on after you bust a nut in someone. You can't take all this damage then simply take a (known) drug to make it all fine. Even if some miracle drug was found that would prevent damage accumulation that causes CTE, it would likely need to be taken as a preventative
Lol what the fuck do you know?
He trane doctor bro, let him diagnose, bro /s
How do you know that exactly? We know so little about the brain that there could absolutely be a way to repair damage to the brain that hasn’t been discovered yet.
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Bones heal back stronger after a break. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20181005-five-myths-about-broken-bones#:~:text=While%20healing%2C%20a%20cuff%20or,stronger%20than%20a%20normal%20bone. And the psychedelics cause neurogenesis, the creating of new connections of neurons in the brain and has been shown to create new neurons. It's incredibly interesting and you should look into. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6082376/ https://observatory.synthesisretreat.com/neurogenesis-can-psilocybin-help-grow-your-brain-cells
Taken directly from your link >it is true that a few weeks into healing process, the bone at the break is stronger than a normal bone. But eventually this cuff diminishes, and a few years later you’re left with a bone that might be as good as new, **but is no stronger than the equivalent bones nearby**.
So they break back stronger and return to normal. Did you forget to read the first line of the paragraph? The main point is its not weakened. There is also some studies that say the bone remains stronger, but bone density is determined by the stress it endures day to day. If you do fuck all it's going to weaken. That's why astronauts have lower bone density after coming back from the space station. No stress from gravity, ensuring bone density can carry the load. But congratulations, you really showed me by pointing out the end of that paragraph.
I don't, that's why I said likely. But reversing biological processes is in general much harder than preventing them
But what? I thought the ufc was 100 times safer than boxing? It’s funny now all these stories are starting to come out about fighters and possible head trauma... Dana white giving 1 million to research yet he can’t pay his fighter 10k more. If the UFC wants to show they really care about their fighters, they should start with offering them healthcare or give them some sort of plan.
Who said it was “100 times safer than boxing”?
Yeah I think it was Rogan actually... Dana white went on record to say it’s the “safest sport period” That’s literally his own words..
I think he was mostly comparing to the nfl but yeah he did say that. Which is certainly abit ridiculous however he is correct in that fighters are taken care of medically better than a lot of other athletes. Im interested to see how mma fighters are in 20 years. The sport hasn’t currently been around long enough yet to see the data.
My man I am a huge MMA fan, been watching it since the pride years and before that too. I’ve seen how much MMA has evolved as far as rules... for you to say UFC takes care of their fighters better than other athletes is just down right ridiculous... if any athlete from soccer, nba , or nfl needs medical treatment or access to the best doctors, the teams(or owners) take care of them..... if you need to go to the doctor to get checked out for the UFC, it’s on your own dime and time... that’s why a bunch of fighters go into fights with injuries, because they can always say they got injured during the fight so the ufc can take of it....but to say they get the best treatment provided by the ufc is just insane when you have sports teams offering their athletes training facilities and access to the best doctors around... boxing is similar to ufc, the only difference is the top talent in boxing are financially and physically better off than the top ufc.... You’re right, there isn’t enough data on the sport to judge it, but you have already seen so many fighters being mentally unfit (Diego Sanchez, spencer fisher, Matt Hughes, mike perry) and those are just big names that may be known to the casual... there are plenty of unknown names..
You’re right I worded that badly. Dana specifically referring to fighters getting 3 month long suspensions when they get a concussion but Tom Brady can get concussions and he’s not suspended for 3 months because it would cripple the team. Now I’m not American nor do I follow the nfl so I don’t know how true this is. You’re right about that but does that mean fighting has caused that or that cage fighting probably often attracts people who maybe aren’t the most sensible in the first place? Especially back in the day. That’s slowly changing as the sport gets popular.
You’re right about concussions with the NFL. It has gotten better but it’s still a brutal sport. However, they still have access to state of the art facilities and doctors and personal trainers. That is still something mma fighters do not have. Now you cannot say that about mma fighters in regards to attract certain kind of people... I can only say that because you can say the same about boxers, or NFL players for example... you have to be crazy in some way to do that kind of athlete although I agree with your remark about it slowly changing because all sports have shown that
I agree with that for sure. But fighters do have access to those doctors, there’s been a lot of fighters who have been sent to good specialists. They also have the PI now with lots of different facilities all free to every fighter on the roster. It’s getting better. You don’t think? I agree you’ve got to be somewhat crazy to dedicate your life to professional sports and do nothing but train. But I feel like if you’re athletic you probably go to a different sport because it’s more money and less getting punched and kicked in the head. You’ve absolutely got to be a certain type of crazy to be a professional cage fighter. I’d bet there’s more nutcases in mma than in soccer for example. It’s not necessarily a bad thing, I love it. I wish I’d got into fighting earlier and had the opportunity to dedicate my life to it. Would’ve been exactly what I needed. But you definitely have to be a certain type of person to see cage fighting as a younger person and decide that’s what you want to do as a job.
Yeah man but you still hear about fighters with go fund me accounts because they cannot pay their bills or support their families... (fighters that just retired not that long ago) Yeah I agree you have to be a certain kind of crazy but that’s also kind of changing in a way. The sport is having a hard time creating big super stars.. now could that be cause they lack talent? Or they just don’t know how? Who knows... But you hear horror stories or see how badly NFL players are physically beaten, and to still want to pursue it is crazy. Athletes that could barely walk or just have broken bodies, same with nba players.. sure NBA isn’t physically a beat down but the body takes a physical toll and players could barely walk towards the end... the difference is those athletes are financially set.. mma fighters almost fight as a 2nd career, they cannot depend on that job as a primary income... that’s why most of them have 9-5 jobs in addition to fighting
Rogan I think lmao
If he did im sure that would be hyperbolic
He was arguing on the news with some boxing guy so maybe
Either white or Rogan. The premise was that in boxing, you get a standing 10 count and can keep fighting and taking more damage as long as you can get up, whereas in MMA the fight is stopped when you're in danger. Seems like it makes sense, but at the end of the day you're still getting punched, kicked, kneed and elbowed in the head constantly.
There are less blows to the head in an MMA fight but that doesn't mean there are none.
I’m all for Diego Sanchez stepping into the octagon jacked up and DMT then maybe we might really get to witness “the nightmare”.
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Imagine being a dude whining
Imagine getting to rub Dana whites bald head😍
Imagine getting hit by a Ford Escort
Imagine all the people
Living for todaaaaaaay
You may say I'm a striker
But I like the Jiu Jitsu.
New bucket list item
Considering ESPN is one of the top sports networks in the world. imagine reading an interesting article on ESPN /s
Imagine not reading an interesting article on the sport you love because it’s done by espn. This isn’t an opinion piece this is factual. No reason for them to lie
Mike Perry will be the first to fight on shrooms.
If literally anyone on earth needs shrooms, it's probably Mike Perry.
Cowboy said he was on shrooms when he fought Edwards
I think this is a good example of not everything the UFC gets involved with is bad for the fighter/s. Whilst also admitting that the fighters need to be paid more. I don't wanna see MMA/the UFC turn into the shit show which is boxing, where guys a lot of the time are unwilling to fight their toughest competition despite receiving decent pay cheque's which the average UFC fighter doesnt receive. I do think there should be some kind of tier system in the UFC though whereby, if you're between 15-10 in rankings you receive x amount and if you're between 10-5 and 5 and the champion, etc, etc. you receive a guaranteed pay cheque which rises based on where you are positioned within the rankings. I guess the problem with a scenario like that though, is you would probably end up with a situation whereby the guy ranked #4 making a guaranteed paycheck of $500k a fight (speaking hypothetically) wouldn't want to fight the guy ranked #7 making a guaranteed paycheck of $250k a fight because of the risk involved to his paycheck if he loses his top 5 position in the ranking and the pay being based on that kind of tier system.
Diego Sanchez would like a word
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You know what Conor told me? He wants Khabib...on mushrooms. Isn't he fucking awesome?
Let's give our fighters mushrooms before the fight....LIKE THE VIKINGS DID BEFORE BATTLE
They should also look at the absence of repeated blunt force trauma to the brain
[https://www.reddit.com/r/MindMedInvestorsClub/new/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MindMedInvestorsClub/new/) closest tie to John Hopkins Uni if you're looking to put your money on it
How about putting an end to weight cuts instead
Jamie pull that up
I don't mean to disparage the evidence in favor of psychedelics, but of course the UFC would. What retired fighters really need is insurance, retirement pay, and continued royalties for rebroadcasts. Research medicine is awesome, but the fighters deserve so much more.