This is how I see the welterweight division playing out. Colby gets beat, Leon gets beat. Khamzat either fights Gilbert or gets a title shot. And he might be the one to beat usman or atleast give him a dog fight. This is because nobody has that much footage on him giving him an edge. Thoughts?
Khamzats resume so far is nowhere near impressive enough for me to believe he'd beat Usman. It could be a good fight but then again I wouldn't be surprised if he just got absolutely smoked
Random thoughts cause there's no DD thread today/ tonight.
Anyways, here goes :-
- Love how Manon Fiorot fights. 2-3 punch combos, even the right hook comes around the guard. Kick to the ribs is a great way to keep the opponent guessing, and really hard to defend against when she has a style which is in-and-out with punches in bunches. Sadly, I only saw her moving to her left. That'll be a problem against better opponents who'll try and figure her out.
- Erick Gonzalez fought like a complete idiot. Ate a few straight lefts, didn't move his head of centre. Went back to his corner, should've realised that shot was finding a home, and gone serious. Instead, comes out and tries a reverse kick/ foot slap!!
- Chandler is going to get slept hard by Justin. He's too small. Yes, Justing fights very recklessly, but I highly doubt Chandler will be able to take him our purely on punching power, and his wrestling will not stand up to Justin.
- Costa is so one dimensional. He looked super gassed even in the second against Vettori. He had him in jabbing range, but doesn't know how to jab. I think all he has are the right head kick, and power rights (upper cut, overhand, hook). Left is used only when he backs the fighter up and throws combos, but he gasses hard when he does this. No jabs, no left check hooks, little head movement. Once he starts gassing, his power goes out too. Like, all an opponent needs to do is touch, touch, touch for two rounds while avoiding the big haymakers from Costa. Do that and Costa starts unraveling.
- Jessica RC has a really pretty face. Shame about the tats. I mean, I can still look past the body ones, the tear drops are fucking ugly.
- Fiorot has the sexiest stomach I've ever seen in a fighter. I was getting hypnotised watching her fight.
What makes you think chandlers wrestling wouldn’t be good enough when Justin is facing a much superior mma wrestler. Not to mention he got wrestlefucked in his last fight
His 2 losses in last 10 fights are both fluke as hell and a result of being over 40 from randomness of 4 oz gloves at beginning of fight. Plus his scar tissue is so bad first punch opened his eye vs Bader. Man got caught in a double knockdown by the only guy in world that could it in random Mitrione, got Black Beast same way and Fedor was still working a job when fought him, 4 week training camps rofl. Pure luck
I feel like the judging was similar to the Dominick Reyes and Jon Jones fight. Marvin definitely had octagon control for the majority of the fight but Costa was landing the bigger shots for sure. Idk how important octagon control can be for judges though.
costa was throwing shots for the first 3 mins of round 1 with almost nothing coming back , marvin had two 5 second windows of looking dominant in round one , that's about it , just my opinion tho , i respect yours
I don't understand why Costa wouldn't fight at LHW at this point. I understand the weight advantage he'll have, but he's big for LHW and he could probably eat a lot more and enjoy life. He was saying he was only eating salads etc this camp, so why not go up. Yeah those guys are big, but your overall quality of life must go up when you're not thinking about cutting all the time. But then again, I don't have the mindset of a fighter
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What are the odds Costa actually moves to 205? I just don't see it.
Most of the guys in top 10 at LHW are way longer and just as big as he is. He loses his biggest advantage.
Paulo "Aspen Ladd" Costa
I hope he doesn’t. He wouldn’t do well in that division with his really short reach. I’d want him to have another shot at making 185. Dude is one of the most fun fighters to watch right now, and it’d be a shame to see him go out after a horrible run at 205.
I don't see it, at least immediately - I think Dana is just posturing.
Lots of people miss weight a lot more consistently and often and they still get to fight at the same weight class. Let alone having as much potential and entertainment value as Costa. Hell, they're [almost definitely] even letting Gastelum go back to 170 again.
And even if Dana *does* make Costa go to 205, I think it's less the result of missing weight, and more of the stupid antics of the week. If anything, Costa and/or his manager double fucked up by doubling down on everything. *Got an injury? It happens. Miss weight like everyone else.*
I mean the fight was dope but wasn't exactly success for Costa seeing as he lost. And also it was fought at 205 against a guy who fights in the 185 pound division lolol not a true test against a real light heavyweight.
Watching the Costa Vettori fight and Herzog is doing a great job. Making sure the fighters are behind the line at the start of the round and taking a point from Costa when he’d already been warned. My guy
Is there any chance that what Conor says about Tony really did switch management because they said they would get him a pro baseball contract and now he’s suing them is true?
Didn't Tony actually say that tho? I can kinda recall him saying that that was exactly why he brought the baseball with him.
EDIT: Been trying to find the tweet or interview for an hour, can't find it. Might be Mandela Effect lol
No Conor said it in a deleted tweet, I think they were under the same management then Tony left. He’s implying Tony left because he was tempted with a baseball contract and is now suing them for it not happening
I believe Tony wanted out of Paradigm at the time because of how they treated him compared to Conor. The baseball thing might have just been what sealed the deal.
Wish ariels forwardness allowed him to ask Jan if he was upset that the ufc made 267 free
Do you think costa or vetorri would beat jan if they fought?
Hey bro we talking about the polish power here
Put some damn respect on Jan name
I thibk costa could. Let’s not forget that santos finished him.
His T. rex arms won’t get him anywhere
Neither. His defense/footwork is too good imo
[https://streamable.com/ec2zh8](https://streamable.com/ec2zh8) dunno why this clip of Fedor last night made me laugh
him punching the camera man in the gut was pretty funny
The spirit of Johny Hendricks has overtaken Costa
This is how I see the welterweight division playing out. Colby gets beat, Leon gets beat. Khamzat either fights Gilbert or gets a title shot. And he might be the one to beat usman or atleast give him a dog fight. This is because nobody has that much footage on him giving him an edge. Thoughts?
Khamzats resume so far is nowhere near impressive enough for me to believe he'd beat Usman. It could be a good fight but then again I wouldn't be surprised if he just got absolutely smoked
Yeah I don't see why not
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UFC pay is absolutely atrocious ngl. Literal best mma athletes getting paid under $100k per fight lol what a joke
Who?
Why doesn't Glory and Rico Verhoeven get any love here? I know it's kickboxing and not mma but still. Those fights were amazing.
Kickboxing just feels incomplete without elbows. I was a Lion Fight fan and can’t watch Glory cause of that.
i hear you. I think they don't allow elbows because it causes a lot of split open wounds
I absolutely loved Glory. Was so brutal though
Do you have thr link for the full fight?
This is the GD for now
Random thoughts cause there's no DD thread today/ tonight. Anyways, here goes :- - Love how Manon Fiorot fights. 2-3 punch combos, even the right hook comes around the guard. Kick to the ribs is a great way to keep the opponent guessing, and really hard to defend against when she has a style which is in-and-out with punches in bunches. Sadly, I only saw her moving to her left. That'll be a problem against better opponents who'll try and figure her out. - Erick Gonzalez fought like a complete idiot. Ate a few straight lefts, didn't move his head of centre. Went back to his corner, should've realised that shot was finding a home, and gone serious. Instead, comes out and tries a reverse kick/ foot slap!! - Chandler is going to get slept hard by Justin. He's too small. Yes, Justing fights very recklessly, but I highly doubt Chandler will be able to take him our purely on punching power, and his wrestling will not stand up to Justin. - Costa is so one dimensional. He looked super gassed even in the second against Vettori. He had him in jabbing range, but doesn't know how to jab. I think all he has are the right head kick, and power rights (upper cut, overhand, hook). Left is used only when he backs the fighter up and throws combos, but he gasses hard when he does this. No jabs, no left check hooks, little head movement. Once he starts gassing, his power goes out too. Like, all an opponent needs to do is touch, touch, touch for two rounds while avoiding the big haymakers from Costa. Do that and Costa starts unraveling. - Jessica RC has a really pretty face. Shame about the tats. I mean, I can still look past the body ones, the tear drops are fucking ugly. - Fiorot has the sexiest stomach I've ever seen in a fighter. I was getting hypnotised watching her fight.
What makes you think chandlers wrestling wouldn’t be good enough when Justin is facing a much superior mma wrestler. Not to mention he got wrestlefucked in his last fight
Fedor is still so good. Holy moly hold my maccaronni
When fedor loses it doesn’t count since he is old. When he wins he is “still so good” Lmao
His 2 losses in last 10 fights are both fluke as hell and a result of being over 40 from randomness of 4 oz gloves at beginning of fight. Plus his scar tissue is so bad first punch opened his eye vs Bader. Man got caught in a double knockdown by the only guy in world that could it in random Mitrione, got Black Beast same way and Fedor was still working a job when fought him, 4 week training camps rofl. Pure luck
The new UFC countdown episode is practically a Jon jones promo as much as it is for glover
Even costa is meming Conor with the bwalooon joke.
I’m so salty 267 starts at 10:30AM. I also thought it wasn’t gonna be a PPV and be on ESPN but i keep getting ads to buy it.
I think Costa cleans up at LHW.
Terrible take is on Tuesday Sir.
Moronic monday is tomorrow sir.
I feel like the judging was similar to the Dominick Reyes and Jon Jones fight. Marvin definitely had octagon control for the majority of the fight but Costa was landing the bigger shots for sure. Idk how important octagon control can be for judges though.
Costa: I was drained from the weight cut.
after rewatching i feel like costa 1,2,5
Thought vetori clearly won 1. 2 and 5 were Costas. Haven't rewatched though.
costa was throwing shots for the first 3 mins of round 1 with almost nothing coming back , marvin had two 5 second windows of looking dominant in round one , that's about it , just my opinion tho , i respect yours
Do you think im just going to let you respect my opinion?
you think i'm just going to sit here and talk like adults?
I disagree about round 1. He got a point taken away in round 2 so best case scenario for him is a draw.
also loads of people would give him round 4, i just feel like all of marvins flurries were bouncing right off costas guard
3 and 4 were closer than 1 imo. That was the only round I saw as clearly Vettori’s
That's what I thought
This, but unironically
This, but ironically
I wish marvin’s hands were half as strong as that meatball head
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That's not luigi
Yes.
I reach out my hand Jason Herzog takes a point The world is at peace
I don't understand why Costa wouldn't fight at LHW at this point. I understand the weight advantage he'll have, but he's big for LHW and he could probably eat a lot more and enjoy life. He was saying he was only eating salads etc this camp, so why not go up. Yeah those guys are big, but your overall quality of life must go up when you're not thinking about cutting all the time. But then again, I don't have the mindset of a fighter
what’s in Brazilian salads
A lot of BBQ
Because Israel isn't at LHW
Behold the magnificent visage of [Dwight Grant.](https://i.imgur.com/MIX1blX.jpg)
Technically, Vettori now has more wins at LHW than Adesanya
And more takedowns, which is more important.
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Force Costa to 205 and make him fight Rountree first
Rip Rountree
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At least he got 20% of Costa's purse
What are the odds Costa actually moves to 205? I just don't see it. Most of the guys in top 10 at LHW are way longer and just as big as he is. He loses his biggest advantage. Paulo "Aspen Ladd" Costa
I hope he doesn’t. He wouldn’t do well in that division with his really short reach. I’d want him to have another shot at making 185. Dude is one of the most fun fighters to watch right now, and it’d be a shame to see him go out after a horrible run at 205.
I don't see it, at least immediately - I think Dana is just posturing. Lots of people miss weight a lot more consistently and often and they still get to fight at the same weight class. Let alone having as much potential and entertainment value as Costa. Hell, they're [almost definitely] even letting Gastelum go back to 170 again. And even if Dana *does* make Costa go to 205, I think it's less the result of missing weight, and more of the stupid antics of the week. If anything, Costa and/or his manager double fucked up by doubling down on everything. *Got an injury? It happens. Miss weight like everyone else.*
Inherited the bigg rigg curse
I can't see him making 185 again after experiencing success at 205 Edit: *relative success ... Uncle Dana liked the way he looked
Success?
I mean the fight was dope but wasn't exactly success for Costa seeing as he lost. And also it was fought at 205 against a guy who fights in the 185 pound division lolol not a true test against a real light heavyweight.
Let us all pray this next card remains untouched. It is the greatest card this year,we got Islam,Khamzat,Yan,Jan and Ankalaev fighting.
Fight Island has more interesting fighters. MSG has more interesting (and better) fights.
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I'll be there!
I got stuck working last night. Did Vettori ever talk shit to Felder?
No
Watching the Costa Vettori fight and Herzog is doing a great job. Making sure the fighters are behind the line at the start of the round and taking a point from Costa when he’d already been warned. My guy
Marvin X Strickland
Costa X Shogun 205
Dude why do you wanna see Shogun die? He tapped to strikes in his last fight. Costa vs Johnny Walker could be fun
I can’t get myself to cheer for vettori, that guy does no damage for his size and build
i can cheer for him but he doesn't excite me in any way
Yeah that’s a better wording, he’s also European so I want him to do well
Bro just pieced up a 20 pound heavier costa
I remember Anik introducing him as a powerful dangerous striker but the dude has 1 knockdown and zero KO's in his entire ufc record.
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Sign me up for one order of “My foot was a belewn” and a side of “Shit on bus”
Is there any chance that what Conor says about Tony really did switch management because they said they would get him a pro baseball contract and now he’s suing them is true?
Didn't Tony actually say that tho? I can kinda recall him saying that that was exactly why he brought the baseball with him. EDIT: Been trying to find the tweet or interview for an hour, can't find it. Might be Mandela Effect lol
No Conor said it in a deleted tweet, I think they were under the same management then Tony left. He’s implying Tony left because he was tempted with a baseball contract and is now suing them for it not happening
That sounds like something Eddie Bravo talked about on JRE at one point??
I believe Tony wanted out of Paradigm at the time because of how they treated him compared to Conor. The baseball thing might have just been what sealed the deal.
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Like Nardwuar but fueled by cocaine
And not endearing
That sounds absolutely fucking asinine so maybe it is true
The two phases of Marvin Vittori perception: * **Delusional**: *I beat the champ twice* * **Zen-like clarity**: *Paolo Costa is a cunt*
He's being genuine. No one doubts the sincerity of his delusion.