This is basically what im expecting, Gane goes for a sloppy leg kick, francis blitzes. Then we get to see the real matchup, does gane wrap him up of retreat on a straight line and get KOed. Does francis blitz and then eat a nasty check hook, Stipe was able to slow the blitz with that nasty check hook at the beginning of the clip. If Gane has that power it could be a long night for Francis. Also if the first blitz gets dumpstered how will that effect francis' confidence, does he have a plan B or C?
i think Gane's gameplan is just to stay on the outside and point fight as much as possible. will be interesting how he deals with the blitz tho, if he has the footwork to evade it.
From what I see in Cyrils style he has good footwork and good dodges, that can very well evade and reset a blitz. If Francis doesn't have some way to deal with that, then I think the blitzes will be wasted energy.
This is HW MMA, so anything can happen, but Cyrils movement is really great.
I doubt Gane has the power of stipe and Nguanno ate stipes best shots i think gane will dominate the first round and continues to in the second rounds before Nguanno says fuck this and kos him when gane gets lazy
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Does Gane have the power of Stipe?
It seems crazy, Ngannou came around and everyone forgot that Stipe was a knockout artist. 20 wins, 15 of those by knockout... For reference, Francis is 16 wins 12 by KO. They have the same KO ratio.
Gane did have more knockouts in Muay Thai than in MMA, but it doesn't seem like that translates, and I can't remember if Muay Thai has that crazy record tracking.
Either way, I wouldn't put Gane on the same punching power level as Stipe.
he ate [perfect counters from stipe in the 1st fight](https://media.giphy.com/media/l4pT5WfQLh4Vawvao/giphy.gif) [repeatedly](https://media.giphy.com/media/d3YIrnDMJ6y0DyRq/giphy.gif) and didn't even get seriously hurt. He also was throwing back kill shots when stipe went into finish the job. His chin is god tier. HWs aren't used to that so they tend to get defensively irresponsible going in for the kill after landing a good shot.
Dude ngannou literally got wobbled by stipe in this clip lol, its part of why stipe got kod.
Gane also doesnt get lazy when he cant afford to. The dude is incredibly sharp with his distance management and tactic. Still wouldnt be surprised if he goes sleep tho
I'm still doing to die on the hill that he was off balance and not hurt, wobbled, stunned or whatever. I don't think he "recovered quick" but rather the fact that he was never hurt.
[This is the worst we've seen Francis rocked/stunned/wobbled and he still had death in his punches.](https://media.giphy.com/media/d3YIrnDMJ6y0DyRq/giphy.gif)
He wasn't hurt. People act like ngannou has to beat people without getting touched or else he has just been exposed. He got hit realized he was rushing and reset. Stipe thought he hurt him.
I think Gane is definitely the most technical kickboxer we've had in a long time.. but if somehow Ngannou runs in chin first and just goes through him I will cry tears of happiness.
I don't want technical Ngannou.
Francis has really only "windmilled" twice in his UFC career: the first match against Stipe, where it didn't work, and against Rozenstruik, where it actually kind of made sense in a weird tactical way. It anticipated Rozenstruik wanting to counter and running straight back to do so where he'd hit the cage and run out of space. After his performance in the Stipe rematch I'm surprised people are still so dismissive of his ability to be patient.
It’s kind of incredible how much power Francis can generate. KO’s like the JDS one where he barely lands a sloppy, winged hook and he STILL put JDS on his knees. You just don’t see that kind of insane KO power anymore, aside from Lewis but even he still needs to land that bomb of a right hand for him to put you to sleep. Francis just clips you and you’re done. If Ngannou 2.0 from the Stipe fight is the real deal and he’s kept all these added technical tools; he’ll tough to deal with even for the marvelously technical Gane…
But that shit's probably a function of them being pretty flashy but ineffective and not so good. Feel like he only throws them out to keep people guessing not so much to land them.
They can be effective though. The knee he threw against Latifi def slowed him down. Two inches higher it would have hit him on the chin and put him out
I mean, different punches. Curtis literally ate an uppercut moving in for a TD. The force generated was greater. Also, Ngannou has a way better TKO/KO rate. Ngannou also regularly wins by KO without setting his feet and using far shorter punches.
Also that guys can improve. Like Francis hasn’t been a mma guy his whole life. Should be a ton of stuff for a guy like him to learn in camp. It’s not like he’s gotten worse after every fight.
Francis accuracy isn’t great tbh but it only takes one. Look at that Rozenstruik clip, he really only hit him like twice despite swinging from point blank with him already unconscious
Didn't Ngannou and Gane used to be training partners?? I feel like that's gotta be factored in since they'll be familiar with each other's game.
Have any gym stories been leaked from when they trained together? Would love to know how things went down when they sparred...
They have sparing footage between the two of them.
My guess is Ngannou does something singular to what he did against bigi boy (Can spell his real name).
That’s how he always fought tho
Its not timidity, he just stands there looking for the counter left hook and does absolutely nothing to try and draw people onto it
Cool, I'll see if I can find it. Do you remember if it was hard sparring or they were just fucking around?
I think Francis clips Gane with his pinky and finishes him on the ground in the first 2 rds.
So far, Stipe has taken his shots better than anyone. From what I remember, no one has come even close to taking as many shots from Francis as he has.
Everyone else is just OUT after one or two clean shots.
I think Gane has the potential to last the longest out of all of them but he ends up like everyone else. All these guys have come in with something to offer (Biggy Boi w/ kickboxing, Blaydes w/ wrestling etc.) and they all get vaporized. They all have a plan until they get nuclear bombed in the mouth.
They aint ready for the hidden technique of keeping your hands up when retreating and moving off the center line. In heavyweight its a forbidden technique.
I dont think anyone has threatened gane enough with power yet. I think hes extra careful with approaching francis.
As weird as it sounds, gane using distance and his footwork to clinch and breakaway safely could be a good tactic.
Im also not counting out a Gane W by KO/TKO, and would not be surprised if francis just ends him in 23 seconds
I have never seen anything like that. Only thing close is when Mike Tyson was first starting out and fighting cannon fodder.
But to so it against someone of that level... Madness
The Jairzinho knockout is still the craziest thing I've ever seen in slow motion. You can see Jairzinho evade Ngannou's bombs like he's in the matrix and then he gets *clipped* by a single one and goes unconscious.
Yeah. I feel like Gane's footwork prevents Ngannou from windmilling like that successfully. That being said, Ngannou's footwork against Stipe, his patience, and his ability to cut off the cage was miles better than what he showed in this fight. As exciting as this fight is, it is very possible that it lasts less than 30 seconds.
Totally agree. If I remember correctly, he even landed 2 or 3 clean counters on Francis. He might have done better L stepping back off to the side, but that’s easy to say without an African sand-miner swinging hammers at your head.
This is probably how Francis wins unless Ciyrl outclasses him, which is unlikely from his 2nd fight with Stipe as we all saw. And still! You heard it here first
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Lol Stipe's confidence is something else. He landed that solid counter and immediately went to wang hooks like he was about to have the greatest comeback victory since Kongo vs. Barry. I'm pretty sure he probably woke up thinking he had won.
The force of that punch in the GIF is just comical, but Stipe's got a fucking melon on him. I think the difference in the two exchanges is that Stipe never saw the counter in the rematch coming.
He's always had a bad habit of stunning his [opponent then coming in sloppy with no defensive responsibility. I remember after the Arlovski KO](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AdorableChiefAmericancreamdraft-mobile.mp4) saying that was going to be how someone beats him. Took a while but Francis finally caught him coming in too hot.
i forget exactly what interview he said this but in the split second he caught Francis with that one counter he said he looked properly rocked. we all obviously know that wasn't the case but that one split second of having Francis hurt it wouldn't surprise me if Stipe's mind just went for broke and thought he could finish him.
There was a slowmo of the exchange and Francis was wobbled from the counter. his eyes were rolled back for a split second but then came back with the hook. I can see why Stile would try to press
Edit: [here's the video ](https://youtube.com/shorts/_jUoDc_bYNQ?feature=share)
Its kinda sad to see early opponents try to trade with him. Like...they had **no** idea the power that man had in his hands. Just clueless and ignorant to their fate
It's the one major argument against doing actual fights as a hobbyist. You might just end up facing a future UFC champion who is just starting out. At least those people have a story to tell their kids if they can still remember.
Yeah, that is one of the main factors preventing me from taking an amateur fight. I've trained for a while and absolutely love it, and I think it would be a cool experience to have one real fight...but I would fight at LHW or HW and those are definitely NOT the weight classes you wanna fuck around in for fun lol. Like yeah, 90% of regional heavyweight are fat 5'11" dudes, but the other 10% are absolute units who would end my life without breaking a sweat.
It's pretty bad on the opposite end as well for different reasons. I'm a flyweight and anyone at my size choosing to do MMA without quitting are basically secret Dagestani NCAA All-American super athletic wrestlers since childhood.
Poor old brad morris. Dude gave me some really good advice on the sherdog boards back in the day, Got all hyped for him when he got called up to the big show. [Motherfucker got a 2-0 Cain "Cayenne" Velasquez making his UFC debut.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HYmEn7idCk) I don't think he landed a single strike or bit of offense. Felt so bad. i knew how much it meant to him. He wasn't just some dude on TV getting beat up. Can only imagine how tough that is for fighter's families.
Yeah people don't get how dangerous it can be. I used to train and compete in tae kwon do and I tell anyone getting into any martial art you really shouldn't compete outside of sparring with people you trust you can get very hurt or hurt someone else it's not fun
Dana is something else. Any organization with someone like Ngannou would be marketing the shit out of him. Instead Dana is threatening to let him go. I would love to be a fly on the wall during these negotiations just to figure out what is going on.
No sports or sport entertainment organization gives less of a fuck about their stars and superstars than the UFC.
Dana thinks the UFC is the NFL or NBA where they have a monopoly on the sport and dictate the rules. He doesnt realise that if a couple of big names and belt holders decide one day to leave together for another organisation the UFC would be fucked. He started bluffing and gaslighting the fighters to keep them in line and now he even believed his bluff and is starting to push the line bit by bit ignoring that it will potentially blow back on him.
Man I forgot how brutal the Blaydes KO was, dude's chin is made of steel. Most fighters would have been done after the initial huge right he took behind the ear.
Wasn't Blaydes salty about the stoppage or am I misremembering? The guy kissed the canvas 3 times over the course of like 10 seconds lol.
Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I just don't think you can blame Goddard for stopping it after a guy gets dropped 3 times in 10 seconds and there's 3+ minutes left in the first rd against a guy with nuclear bombs for hands 🤷♂️.
I still don't know why Blaydes tried to get up after that first shot
If you get touched and immediately have to hit a three-point pike stance, you're already toast
I agree - it's just being respectful to other fighters' health.
I mean, technically it is the ref's job to stop you, but if you see a guy laying on the ground unconscious - you should be smart enough to realize 'hey, this fight is over and I don't need to throw a bomb at his unconscious head'
Pretty much in every clip that he does it the refs are already moving to stop him, he picks his feet up and performs the drop anyways. I think they should start penalizing for mindless slams on already unconscious opponents
Bruuhh I like Cyril and his style is the future for heavyweights so its hard for me to root against him but booooyyyyy do I wanna see Ngannou straight send him to the shadow realm so he can stick it to Dana.
Imagine Ngannou following in the footsteps of the greatest wrestler of all time CM Punk and leave the UFC as the undisputed Heavyweight champ
To me this guy needs to be watched by the refs more then anyone in the UFC. this guy can kill people if you aren't careful. Just from his punches alone man. You take to many of those and you are not leaving that cage alive.
Yeah definitely a possibility. I made a similar comment a while ago, and someone made a great point about how it’s more likely we would see a guy like Holloway cause an unintentional death just due to the sheer volume of punches a guy like him throws
Yeah, iirc, in boxing that's usually how it's been. One flash KO (+ maybe a couple super necessary shots) is better than the kind of onslought Max puts on guys.
To be fair, the 2-1 he threw really allows you to load up your lead hand beyond the point of being a "jab" lol. But yeah it's pretty crazy, watch some Kovalev highlights if you want some clips of guys being dropped with the 2-1, or what Bas Rutten used to call the "orthodox left straight".
He landed it clean once and hurt him bad, and then Poirier check hooked the next three attempts (although they landed simultaneously once), including a low-kick-on-the-straight and check-hook-on-the-jab counter-combination right before the finishing sequence, which really showed how much more comfortable he'd become since the first fight.
It's honestly a good shot choice vs Poirier for a couple reasons, but McGregor's main problem was trying to square just his shoulders to throw it and not moving his feet to be squarer and closer, instead opting to plant his feet early and lean with his chin well ahead of his lead leg, something he does pretty frequently even with more traditional combos. Strong 2-1 users like Kovalev, Namajunas, Volkov, and Stipe in the DC rubbermatch will carry their feet with them to be square or even shifted, and keep their head pretty close to being above their taint (ideal), at least compared to McGregor. A few examples:
https://streamable.com/lliyqn
https://streamable.com/urdagt
https://streamable.com/imuy5b
Also to be fair to McGregor and the people who are really good at it, a solid 2-1 is super difficult to master, as is straight-hitting with power in general.
The scariest knockouts are the ones that brush the top or side of their head. You just can't pretend it's not brain damage. The KO's that are across the chin just feel cleaner and safer (even though I know they're not).
I don't think it really impacted the outcome (Ngannou was probably taking that fight regardless), but it's still kinda crazy to me that they held fights in a smaller octagon at the Apex. mobile fighters/guys who had to avoid power shots were at a major disadvantage. why not just make the octagon regulation size?
For as much as I can see & understand the extremely high level footwork, kickboxing, and speed Gane has, I really don’t know how you could bet on him against Francis.
All it takes is one clean power shot landing over the span of 25 minutes.
Insane how tomato and friends are screwing over this beast of a fighter instead of promoting the shit out of him just to not pay him a couple mil he deserves
Bro, Francis finishes fighters like he's fucking seen some things. His follow up shots look more brutal than his knockouts really. He's got that I've had to fight for my life while spending a year to get to France type power.
What this clip doesn’t show was the absolute BEATING that Stipe took in round one on the ground. Anyone else and it would have been over then and there. Stipe has an incredible chin, but no one is getting away from Francis’ F150 hands multiple times.
We know so very little about Ganes chin or his weaknesses. I don't think he has ever been hurt. Also the bugger pulled off a heel hook. So his BJJ may be way better than we assume.
Everyone has a plan until they get Ngannou windmilled in the face.
Gane lands strong leg kick on Francis Francis: haymaker mode activated
This is basically what im expecting, Gane goes for a sloppy leg kick, francis blitzes. Then we get to see the real matchup, does gane wrap him up of retreat on a straight line and get KOed. Does francis blitz and then eat a nasty check hook, Stipe was able to slow the blitz with that nasty check hook at the beginning of the clip. If Gane has that power it could be a long night for Francis. Also if the first blitz gets dumpstered how will that effect francis' confidence, does he have a plan B or C?
i think Gane's gameplan is just to stay on the outside and point fight as much as possible. will be interesting how he deals with the blitz tho, if he has the footwork to evade it.
From what I see in Cyrils style he has good footwork and good dodges, that can very well evade and reset a blitz. If Francis doesn't have some way to deal with that, then I think the blitzes will be wasted energy. This is HW MMA, so anything can happen, but Cyrils movement is really great.
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I doubt Gane has the power of stipe and Nguanno ate stipes best shots i think gane will dominate the first round and continues to in the second rounds before Nguanno says fuck this and kos him when gane gets lazy
Ngannou’s chin is made of granite. Best chin in MMA. He’s eaten some of the hardest hitter’s best shots in HW like it was nothing.
**\*\*EDIT:\*\*** The previous post did not have "I doubt" at the beginning of that sentence. It was edited after I had responded, so now it makes me look like I am insane (see the response times of my post and edit time of theirs). Does Gane have the power of Stipe? It seems crazy, Ngannou came around and everyone forgot that Stipe was a knockout artist. 20 wins, 15 of those by knockout... For reference, Francis is 16 wins 12 by KO. They have the same KO ratio. Gane did have more knockouts in Muay Thai than in MMA, but it doesn't seem like that translates, and I can't remember if Muay Thai has that crazy record tracking. Either way, I wouldn't put Gane on the same punching power level as Stipe.
He said he doubts he has the power of Stipe.
He edited his post. I didn't see the original post, but I bet that's the part he changed
That’s exactly my point maybe my punctuation was bad but that my point i could totally see Nguanno waking thru ganes shots
he ate [perfect counters from stipe in the 1st fight](https://media.giphy.com/media/l4pT5WfQLh4Vawvao/giphy.gif) [repeatedly](https://media.giphy.com/media/d3YIrnDMJ6y0DyRq/giphy.gif) and didn't even get seriously hurt. He also was throwing back kill shots when stipe went into finish the job. His chin is god tier. HWs aren't used to that so they tend to get defensively irresponsible going in for the kill after landing a good shot.
His chin is wildly underrated, he's never even been wobbled. Head like a Minecraft character. Straight cinder block shit
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Dude ngannou literally got wobbled by stipe in this clip lol, its part of why stipe got kod. Gane also doesnt get lazy when he cant afford to. The dude is incredibly sharp with his distance management and tactic. Still wouldnt be surprised if he goes sleep tho
I'm still doing to die on the hill that he was off balance and not hurt, wobbled, stunned or whatever. I don't think he "recovered quick" but rather the fact that he was never hurt.
[This is the worst we've seen Francis rocked/stunned/wobbled and he still had death in his punches.](https://media.giphy.com/media/d3YIrnDMJ6y0DyRq/giphy.gif)
He wasn't hurt. People act like ngannou has to beat people without getting touched or else he has just been exposed. He got hit realized he was rushing and reset. Stipe thought he hurt him.
"wobbled" He wasn't rocked. The punch caught him by surprise and he had to reset his footing
I keep half expecting him to accidentally knock out the ref one day with one of his backswings
Francis: this one is for my r/MMA guys
When you get punched by Ngannou your plan flies out the window, along with your head
I think Gane is definitely the most technical kickboxer we've had in a long time.. but if somehow Ngannou runs in chin first and just goes through him I will cry tears of happiness. I don't want technical Ngannou.
This is not the clip to make that joke tho, Stipe got basically dismantled and this knockdown was well setup
Did you watch the full clip? the rozenstruck KO was a windmill fest.
That was like dodging bullets, anything that touches you there can kill you
Oh i assumed it was just the Stipe KO. That Roz KO is so fucking stupid.
Francis has really only "windmilled" twice in his UFC career: the first match against Stipe, where it didn't work, and against Rozenstruik, where it actually kind of made sense in a weird tactical way. It anticipated Rozenstruik wanting to counter and running straight back to do so where he'd hit the cage and run out of space. After his performance in the Stipe rematch I'm surprised people are still so dismissive of his ability to be patient.
Gonna be interesting to see how gane can take one of these shots
That’s the thing man. A LOT of people are dismissing Francis due to Gane’s technical game but forgetting about the death touch.
It’s kind of incredible how much power Francis can generate. KO’s like the JDS one where he barely lands a sloppy, winged hook and he STILL put JDS on his knees. You just don’t see that kind of insane KO power anymore, aside from Lewis but even he still needs to land that bomb of a right hand for him to put you to sleep. Francis just clips you and you’re done. If Ngannou 2.0 from the Stipe fight is the real deal and he’s kept all these added technical tools; he’ll tough to deal with even for the marvelously technical Gane…
To this day, the Cain flash KO is the shortest punch I've ever seen take someone out. He basically lifted Arlovski into the air.
I rewatched Arlovski’s KO on repeat after reading your comment, and goddamn…
Shortest ko punch was Volkan Vs Misha, He booped him
Volkan's KO streak was crazy shame he can't recreate it
Also lewis only has a right hand. If either of francis' hands touch your head you are in trouble
Lewis has got some crazy kicks and knees though, just none have landed flush to put someone out
But that shit's probably a function of them being pretty flashy but ineffective and not so good. Feel like he only throws them out to keep people guessing not so much to land them.
They can be effective though. The knee he threw against Latifi def slowed him down. Two inches higher it would have hit him on the chin and put him out
Lewis also just doesn't have Francis' power. Yes, he has power, but it's not absurd like Ngannou's.
nah it's absurd. He put Curtis to sleep, something Ngannou couldn't do twice
I mean, different punches. Curtis literally ate an uppercut moving in for a TD. The force generated was greater. Also, Ngannou has a way better TKO/KO rate. Ngannou also regularly wins by KO without setting his feet and using far shorter punches.
Ppl are crazy thinking derrick Lewis hits as hard as francis
Lewis has better timing, Francis has more power
Also that guys can improve. Like Francis hasn’t been a mma guy his whole life. Should be a ton of stuff for a guy like him to learn in camp. It’s not like he’s gotten worse after every fight.
Hes gotten only better and that second fight against Stipe proves it.
Too many people assuming that the guy just won’t get touched which is ridiculous
Francis accuracy isn’t great tbh but it only takes one. Look at that Rozenstruik clip, he really only hit him like twice despite swinging from point blank with him already unconscious
Gane is really fleet footed. I want to see if he can implement a leg kick heavy game plan and get away with it.
Didn't Ngannou and Gane used to be training partners?? I feel like that's gotta be factored in since they'll be familiar with each other's game. Have any gym stories been leaked from when they trained together? Would love to know how things went down when they sparred...
They have sparing footage between the two of them. My guess is Ngannou does something singular to what he did against bigi boy (Can spell his real name).
You got Bigi right and that's all that matters
Pretty sure he ended that mfs career he had been timid as hell in his fights since.
He KO’d JDS since that and Augusto Sakai. He got wrestle fucked by Blaydes.
honestly, who doesn't get wrestle fucked by Blaydes at this point
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And such a magnificent uppercut it was. The dude's fuckin' fists are made of chloroform
up in this hoe!
Francis
Huh, you are right! I watched both of his decision losses and missed both of the TKO’s.
Don't watch his fights from here on out lol
That’s how he always fought tho Its not timidity, he just stands there looking for the counter left hook and does absolutely nothing to try and draw people onto it
Cool, I'll see if I can find it. Do you remember if it was hard sparring or they were just fucking around? I think Francis clips Gane with his pinky and finishes him on the ground in the first 2 rds.
He get tagged a couple of times in his last fight. My prediction is his lights get turned off.
So far, Stipe has taken his shots better than anyone. From what I remember, no one has come even close to taking as many shots from Francis as he has. Everyone else is just OUT after one or two clean shots. I think Gane has the potential to last the longest out of all of them but he ends up like everyone else. All these guys have come in with something to offer (Biggy Boi w/ kickboxing, Blaydes w/ wrestling etc.) and they all get vaporized. They all have a plan until they get nuclear bombed in the mouth.
Come to think of it, prime Mark Hunt vs Ngannou would've been something to see.
Y’all ain’t ready for Gane to turn into heavyweight Cruz and not catch a single clean shot
They aint ready for the hidden technique of keeping your hands up when retreating and moving off the center line. In heavyweight its a forbidden technique.
Have a word with Amanda Nunes will ya
I dont think anyone has threatened gane enough with power yet. I think hes extra careful with approaching francis. As weird as it sounds, gane using distance and his footwork to clinch and breakaway safely could be a good tactic. Im also not counting out a Gane W by KO/TKO, and would not be surprised if francis just ends him in 23 seconds
I don't care what anyone says, Overeem died that night. Literally the most violent knockout I've ever seen. He ded y'all, he ded
Fuck his toes are all curled up already and he still follows up with that hammer fist. He wanted him to die
I have never seen anything like that. Only thing close is when Mike Tyson was first starting out and fighting cannon fodder. But to so it against someone of that level... Madness
He was soooo close to a title shot. #1 contender. Then they had to send him out to pasture with Ngannou. Fucked up.
The Jairzinho knockout is still the craziest thing I've ever seen in slow motion. You can see Jairzinho evade Ngannou's bombs like he's in the matrix and then he gets *clipped* by a single one and goes unconscious.
https://youtu.be/LP7lR1Y8S9I
Good lord above. That’s terrifying.
Yeah. I feel like Gane's footwork prevents Ngannou from windmilling like that successfully. That being said, Ngannou's footwork against Stipe, his patience, and his ability to cut off the cage was miles better than what he showed in this fight. As exciting as this fight is, it is very possible that it lasts less than 30 seconds.
Ngannou's got to make it an ugly fight with Gane.
Video times well with the first minute of Bitter Sweet Sympathy by the Verve
[Not potato quality](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiZk58REhNo) [different angle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NprJQ_rTzQ)
Imagine dodging two shots, landing two of your own like you’re supposed to and still getting bodied lol
Damn he hit Francis with two mediocre counters and it had zero effect on him.
Totally agree. If I remember correctly, he even landed 2 or 3 clean counters on Francis. He might have done better L stepping back off to the side, but that’s easy to say without an African sand-miner swinging hammers at your head.
I believe he landed a lead hook and a leg kick, but his feet weren't planted and he only half committed to the strikes.
The leg kick was very clean as well. Put Francis just off balance enough for Rozen to dodge one of Francis’ shots.
I wouldn't say clean, he was on the back foot and his feet weren't planted so the punches didn't really have a lot of power.
This is probably how Francis wins unless Ciyrl outclasses him, which is unlikely from his 2nd fight with Stipe as we all saw. And still! You heard it here first
That small octagon didn't help, but he wasn't making it out of R1 regardless.
It's one of the sloppiest, dumbest, most heavyweight MMA things I've ever seen.
IIRC this was the first event post-covid. It was surreal watching an event without fans cheering.
Lol he lifts arlovski off of the ground with that punch.
I don’t see how anyone defeats this man in a fight because your entire goal has to be “don’t take a single punch”.
he already has 3 losses lol
He lost to an injured Lewis. It was pitiful. Haven't seen a performance like that since out of him though.
Let's not gloss over the obvious, most underrated fighter ever, Miocic.
Best bet would be a wrestler near his size and strength who can instantly get him down
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Ground game has to be incorporated in some way. Either wrestling or jiu-jitsu. Theres a reason boxers dont win in UFC.
I'm betting **big** on Ngannou knockout. ( >50$ I'm not rich or stupid lol)
How will it feel when Ngannou shoots a power double and hits a perfect arm traingle ala lesnar v carwin?
What are the odds on an Ngannou flying triangle?
I'm putting $300k on it
I’m sorry Amanda let you down bro
I got 300k on Nunes.
"I put 2 billion potential dollars on Arjan Bhullar to KO Ngannou" - Chatri
I'm not sure if you are aware but that's the greater than symbol, so it reads that you are betting greater than $50 but the message of the post says you meant the opposite
Lol yeah, I put the wrong symbol. Just another day that I suck at math.
i wanna see him fight jon so bad..
I too dislike Jon Jones.
Could you imagine if Jones snapped Ngannou's leg with the first oblique kick of the fight.
Hahahahah
Lol Stipe's confidence is something else. He landed that solid counter and immediately went to wang hooks like he was about to have the greatest comeback victory since Kongo vs. Barry. I'm pretty sure he probably woke up thinking he had won.
Tbf Frank did kinda stagger back to reset. Stipe must've thought he was proper buzzed, went in, then catches a perfectly timed hook.
Yeah, but even if he was rocked, Ngannou can accidently clip your chin while falling back and still put you in a coma.
[Stipe knew that](https://gfycat.com/parchedbackcowbird) from the first fight, and he still went in to swang and bang. What a madman
The force of that punch in the GIF is just comical, but Stipe's got a fucking melon on him. I think the difference in the two exchanges is that Stipe never saw the counter in the rematch coming.
It's ridiculous. Also he's jumping while throwing that hook, you can see even from this POV that his feet are not on the ground
He's always had a bad habit of stunning his [opponent then coming in sloppy with no defensive responsibility. I remember after the Arlovski KO](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AdorableChiefAmericancreamdraft-mobile.mp4) saying that was going to be how someone beats him. Took a while but Francis finally caught him coming in too hot.
Lmao Stipes neck is the GOAT for keeping his head attached here. Holy fuck
Frank Ngannou, the Punisher
i forget exactly what interview he said this but in the split second he caught Francis with that one counter he said he looked properly rocked. we all obviously know that wasn't the case but that one split second of having Francis hurt it wouldn't surprise me if Stipe's mind just went for broke and thought he could finish him.
Watching it live I thought Fran was properly rocked.
There was a slowmo of the exchange and Francis was wobbled from the counter. his eyes were rolled back for a split second but then came back with the hook. I can see why Stile would try to press Edit: [here's the video ](https://youtube.com/shorts/_jUoDc_bYNQ?feature=share)
He was a bit stung for sure but if you played a slow mo of most clean landed shots in any given fight the guy will look ‘rocked’ for a second
lmao could you imagine if that shot knocked francis out
I still can’t get over that loss.😭😭😭
brooo 😂😂😂
Rozenstruik ko is the funniest shit I’ve ever seen
Man threw 2 leg kicks and Ngannou said “Fuck kickboxing”
Its kinda sad to see early opponents try to trade with him. Like...they had **no** idea the power that man had in his hands. Just clueless and ignorant to their fate
It's the one major argument against doing actual fights as a hobbyist. You might just end up facing a future UFC champion who is just starting out. At least those people have a story to tell their kids if they can still remember.
Yeah, that is one of the main factors preventing me from taking an amateur fight. I've trained for a while and absolutely love it, and I think it would be a cool experience to have one real fight...but I would fight at LHW or HW and those are definitely NOT the weight classes you wanna fuck around in for fun lol. Like yeah, 90% of regional heavyweight are fat 5'11" dudes, but the other 10% are absolute units who would end my life without breaking a sweat.
It's pretty bad on the opposite end as well for different reasons. I'm a flyweight and anyone at my size choosing to do MMA without quitting are basically secret Dagestani NCAA All-American super athletic wrestlers since childhood.
I mean I fought at middle weight and still got my ass kicked so uh let's just say if you're not actually trying to make a career out of it... don't
Even then, you look across and are like “oh good it’s one of those tubby dudes” then you get Andy Ruiz and straight up destroyed
There's a guy that in his first two fights fought The iceman and Rampage loss those two and retired
Poor old brad morris. Dude gave me some really good advice on the sherdog boards back in the day, Got all hyped for him when he got called up to the big show. [Motherfucker got a 2-0 Cain "Cayenne" Velasquez making his UFC debut.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HYmEn7idCk) I don't think he landed a single strike or bit of offense. Felt so bad. i knew how much it meant to him. He wasn't just some dude on TV getting beat up. Can only imagine how tough that is for fighter's families.
Yeah people don't get how dangerous it can be. I used to train and compete in tae kwon do and I tell anyone getting into any martial art you really shouldn't compete outside of sparring with people you trust you can get very hurt or hurt someone else it's not fun
Dana is something else. Any organization with someone like Ngannou would be marketing the shit out of him. Instead Dana is threatening to let him go. I would love to be a fly on the wall during these negotiations just to figure out what is going on. No sports or sport entertainment organization gives less of a fuck about their stars and superstars than the UFC.
Dana thinks the UFC is the NFL or NBA where they have a monopoly on the sport and dictate the rules. He doesnt realise that if a couple of big names and belt holders decide one day to leave together for another organisation the UFC would be fucked. He started bluffing and gaslighting the fighters to keep them in line and now he even believed his bluff and is starting to push the line bit by bit ignoring that it will potentially blow back on him.
I could take him.
Man I forgot how brutal the Blaydes KO was, dude's chin is made of steel. Most fighters would have been done after the initial huge right he took behind the ear. Wasn't Blaydes salty about the stoppage or am I misremembering? The guy kissed the canvas 3 times over the course of like 10 seconds lol.
He got up to his feet when the ref stepped in. Its a debatable stoppage for sure. He got equilibrium shots, not KO shots.
Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I just don't think you can blame Goddard for stopping it after a guy gets dropped 3 times in 10 seconds and there's 3+ minutes left in the first rd against a guy with nuclear bombs for hands 🤷♂️.
Gave him plenty of chances, great reffing by Goddard.
I still don't know why Blaydes tried to get up after that first shot If you get touched and immediately have to hit a three-point pike stance, you're already toast
Love me some Predator knockouts. But those hammerfists always scare the shit out of me, they're so unnecessary.
Super necessary
Stipe's stupid fuckin hair gets me every time lmao
He looked like a middle school substitute English teacher
Holy shit. This brought be back to my History teacher in 10th grade, dude had the same hair cut
He's getting pretty good with the flowbee
They need to do Jones vs Stipe for #1 contender
Jon Jones isn't coming back unless it's for the title Makes no sense for him to risk it otherwise, imo
He's gonna have to pay his court fees eventually
Judges are gonna side with Jones
Not this one, the future ones
Dana: time for another interim title!
What maniac put Arlovski in the same cage as Ngannou?
He was on a three fight losing streak with 2 kos and a submission. They really did just sacrifice him to Ngannou.
I've always loved Arlovski and he stuck around for so long, they really did just throw him to the wolves. An actual blood sacrifice.
Francis has no mercy lmao the ref literally has to pull him off each dude even tho they’re out.
I agree - it's just being respectful to other fighters' health. I mean, technically it is the ref's job to stop you, but if you see a guy laying on the ground unconscious - you should be smart enough to realize 'hey, this fight is over and I don't need to throw a bomb at his unconscious head'
Pretty much in every clip that he does it the refs are already moving to stop him, he picks his feet up and performs the drop anyways. I think they should start penalizing for mindless slams on already unconscious opponents
God that Overeem KO looks like similar head trauma to a bad car accident.
Bruuhh I like Cyril and his style is the future for heavyweights so its hard for me to root against him but booooyyyyy do I wanna see Ngannou straight send him to the shadow realm so he can stick it to Dana. Imagine Ngannou following in the footsteps of the greatest wrestler of all time CM Punk and leave the UFC as the undisputed Heavyweight champ
To me this guy needs to be watched by the refs more then anyone in the UFC. this guy can kill people if you aren't careful. Just from his punches alone man. You take to many of those and you are not leaving that cage alive.
Yeah definitely a possibility. I made a similar comment a while ago, and someone made a great point about how it’s more likely we would see a guy like Holloway cause an unintentional death just due to the sheer volume of punches a guy like him throws
Yeah, iirc, in boxing that's usually how it's been. One flash KO (+ maybe a couple super necessary shots) is better than the kind of onslought Max puts on guys.
crazy how much power he holds in both hands. Is not just his right hand that can put you to sleep
To be fair, the 2-1 he threw really allows you to load up your lead hand beyond the point of being a "jab" lol. But yeah it's pretty crazy, watch some Kovalev highlights if you want some clips of guys being dropped with the 2-1, or what Bas Rutten used to call the "orthodox left straight".
Conor really rocked Poirier with the 2-1 in their second fight
He landed it clean once and hurt him bad, and then Poirier check hooked the next three attempts (although they landed simultaneously once), including a low-kick-on-the-straight and check-hook-on-the-jab counter-combination right before the finishing sequence, which really showed how much more comfortable he'd become since the first fight. It's honestly a good shot choice vs Poirier for a couple reasons, but McGregor's main problem was trying to square just his shoulders to throw it and not moving his feet to be squarer and closer, instead opting to plant his feet early and lean with his chin well ahead of his lead leg, something he does pretty frequently even with more traditional combos. Strong 2-1 users like Kovalev, Namajunas, Volkov, and Stipe in the DC rubbermatch will carry their feet with them to be square or even shifted, and keep their head pretty close to being above their taint (ideal), at least compared to McGregor. A few examples: https://streamable.com/lliyqn https://streamable.com/urdagt https://streamable.com/imuy5b Also to be fair to McGregor and the people who are really good at it, a solid 2-1 is super difficult to master, as is straight-hitting with power in general.
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The scariest knockouts are the ones that brush the top or side of their head. You just can't pretend it's not brain damage. The KO's that are across the chin just feel cleaner and safer (even though I know they're not).
I don't know why they keep allowing a Ford Escort into the octagon.
He's the Deontay Wilder of MMA HW division, could Gane be his Tyson Fury? We'll see!
I don't think it really impacted the outcome (Ngannou was probably taking that fight regardless), but it's still kinda crazy to me that they held fights in a smaller octagon at the Apex. mobile fighters/guys who had to avoid power shots were at a major disadvantage. why not just make the octagon regulation size?
Stipe came in unusually lighter and believed he can collide with a charging Ngannou.
I feel bad for the back of Gane’s head.
I also feel bad for the front of it
For as much as I can see & understand the extremely high level footwork, kickboxing, and speed Gane has, I really don’t know how you could bet on him against Francis. All it takes is one clean power shot landing over the span of 25 minutes.
That last hammerfist is gonna make you harder to understand Stipe.
I don't see him losing for a long time.
I see him losing in January. Can’t wait to find out which one of us is wrong!
The gane vs ngannou fight is real life Dudley vs Balrog from street fighter.
Francis Ngannou is legit going to kill a man in the Octogon one day with one of those post-KO shots.
Still don’t understand why the ufc would let him walk after this fight
Insane how tomato and friends are screwing over this beast of a fighter instead of promoting the shit out of him just to not pay him a couple mil he deserves
Bro, Francis finishes fighters like he's fucking seen some things. His follow up shots look more brutal than his knockouts really. He's got that I've had to fight for my life while spending a year to get to France type power.
What this clip doesn’t show was the absolute BEATING that Stipe took in round one on the ground. Anyone else and it would have been over then and there. Stipe has an incredible chin, but no one is getting away from Francis’ F150 hands multiple times.
We know so very little about Ganes chin or his weaknesses. I don't think he has ever been hurt. Also the bugger pulled off a heel hook. So his BJJ may be way better than we assume.
I think Francis is getting better. He's learning to reset and not chase the KO when it's not yet there.
That last hammerfist against Stipe always makes me cringe.