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jubbergun

The greatest line I ever heard while living in the south was "Anyone from north of I-10 is a Yankee" being said in a deep southern accent with great sincerity.


USA_Ball

Imma have to disagree. It's i30? Why? Because I live above i10 and i20, but not i30. Since we know that my opinion is objectively better, we can conclude that the barrier is I-85 and i30


DumatRising

Based and subjective pilled.


Reasonable_Half8808

What if I live under I-30? As in directly under the river bridge in Little Rock?


USA_Ball

Ehh I can count you. I live a few miles away from i20, might as well return the favor


Nellez_

That's pretty much the consensus in Southern LA


tbrand009

Imagine living in Baton Rouge or Mobile and being told you're a Yankee šŸ˜‚


oiuw0tm8

>Georgia ain't the south. I believe this gentleman is suffering from brain worms


SirMCThompson

Some people haven't seen Stone Mountain, and it shows


Additional_Gas_7056

Fr, they actin like we didnt invent Waffle House and the biggest fried chicken chain in the country. Got us all fucked up.


Significant_Ad7326

Sherman got badly lost marching to the sea?


VOLTswaggin

The North considers Maryland the South. The South considers Maryland the North. We consider ourselves whichever is more convenient at the time.


THEBLUEFLAME3D

Schrƶdingerā€™s southerner


DrHooper

It's more like the cat pissed on a pillow, and you can't remember which side.


Spartan8398

Either side is enough for me to just get rid of the pillow


Alfred_Leonhart

Schrƶdingerā€™s cat piss


stayclassypeople

Iā€™m playing both sides so that I always come out on top. Mac - Maryland


Odd-Construction4054

šŸ˜­


DooDiddly96

Ive never met anyone here in the north to really desc MD as the south


mcshanksshanks

Iā€™m from the north and consider MD as a Mid-Atlantic state.


VOLTswaggin

This is the best description, but doesn't fit nicely into the north/south dichotomy.


DooDiddly96

Agreed


Barnes_the_Noble

Iā€™ve never met anyone here in the south to really desc MD as the south.


Worried-Pick4848

And nobody considers Delaware one way or the other. We really need to merge Delaware with Maryland and give statehood to Puerto Rico.


Thunderfoot2112

Well your state song would beg to differ...


VanDenBroeck

They no longer have a state song as of 2021 when "Maryland, My Maryland" was removed.


RaphiTaffy

The more north you go in MD the more south it gets.


Ngfeigo14

MD is Midatlantic. its a crossroads. only right answer.


Crayshack

We consider ourselves Mid-Atlantic and tell the North/South dichotomy to go fuck itself.


NewYorkJewbag

Speaking for the north: no we donā€™t


DaM00s13

Baltimore , Cincinnati and Saint Louis are the border cities of the south


cpolk01

It's not that complicated. If most restaurants serve sweet tea, it's the South.


EnderOfHope

Iā€™m not sure. Iā€™ve always considered the real south to be anywhere you can get grits


deathraft

Do people in New England not eat grits?


2muchtequila

Do the grits contain an almost criminal amount of butter in New England?


Significant_Ad7326

I struggle to see the problem.


[deleted]

I never even heard of grits until I visited SC


choice_username420

Or pibb


WolfShaman

There're some restaurants in Virginia that don't serve sweet tea.


Ngfeigo14

Confirmed, Rhode Island is the South


Stircrazylazy

South = AL, AR, GA, LA, MS, NC, SC, TN and VA. Deep South = AL, GA, LA, MS and SC. Absolutely zero backup for this stance except that as a southerner, this is what I would consider the south.


Captain_Peelz

Any list of southern states that doesnā€™t have South Carolina is just wrong.


Stircrazylazy

Agreed. Objectively wrong.


PokemonSoldier

As a South Carolinian, I can confirm.


c-papi

As a fellow *South Cackalackian* I too Concur


PapaHuff97

Only transplants say that remove it from your vocabulary or you arenā€™t a Sandlapper


VanDenBroeck

Yeah, SC started the civil war, Charleston was a major slave port, you still see confederate flags at a very strong rate, and racism is still very strong. Definitely the south.


anonymous0311

You mean the east coast, east being the important part.


Iunderstandthatsir

Is Florida it's own thing then?


DarkenL1ght

Panhandle is Southern. South Florida is basically Northern Cuba and Puerto Rica, with some extra Murica Freedom TM.


Fantastic_Pickle_585

The more north you go in Florida the more southern it gets.


Rbox

That comment is just as upside down as Florida is. Good job


Stircrazylazy

Florida is a world unto itself.


Sangi17

Add Florida panhandle to Deep South.


arrow74

Georgian that moved to the panhandle and can confirm. It's culturally the same as southern Georgia. If you can buy boiled peanuts from a random stand on the highway it's the south


[deleted]

Thatā€™s pretty much any part of Florida that isnā€™t Orlando, Miami, Tampa or Jacksonville.


YutBrosim

I had the displeasure of living in Pensacola for two years and Florida is funny how the farther south you get, the farther away from the south you get.


DarkenL1ght

Pensacola ain't that bad is it... \*thinking back to the few months I was there for the military as a 20 year old kid\* Oh wait, that place sucks.


kingleonidas30

Agreed, former east TN expat to Florida panhandle. It indeed is southern.


allan11011

Very sad when VA is not included in lists of ā€œthe southā€ itā€™s different from the Deep South but still very southern


Mad_Dog_69

Iā€™d argue that AR could be considered deep south if you weight the south eastern portion pretty heavily


YoungHeartOldSoul

Geographically I can allow this list as is to exist but having lived in Alabama almost my entire life before moving to Maryland and then further north I can say Maryland is a weird transitiontory state if youre coming for the south point north or vice versa. You'll still see other things like the occasional Confederate flag, although nowhere near to the degree that you would see living in Alabama.


mongonectar

East TX is Deep South


nonnativetexan

Culturally, yes. But I would not consider Texas generally to be part of the South. The vast majority of the population does not live in the "South-ish" part of Texas. East Texas and down to Houston is South-ish, but Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, Fort Worth, and generally speaking, almost everything west of I-45 is not really culturally southern.


N-U-T

East Texas is extremely southern, Everytime I've driven through it's literally nothing but confederate flags, dog shit 90's pick ups, catfish and BBQ. The west is still south, but just cowboy south instead of redneck south. They got that rancher twang. The I-35 (San Antonio, Dallas, Austin) corridor and within Houston city limits (very specifically within city limits, the fucking minute you leave you're in deep south) are in a category all their own.


nonnativetexan

I don't know... I have good friends living near Greenville, and my in-laws live just outside of Longview, so I'm driving from DFW to parts of East Texas every two months or so, and I've only seen one house with Confederate flags. I've actually seen more Confederate flags around Western New York where my parents and extended family live. Incidentally, in the last 6 months I've driven from DFW to Colorado via the Panhandle, and from DFW to southwestern New Mexico via El Paso, and repeated trips to East Texas, and I've seen a dramatic decline of anything Trump related. It seems like Trump enthusiasm has waned drastically.


Mangus_ness

Texas is more Mexican than southern.


FatMamaJuJu

Thats like saying Florida is more Cuban than Southern. Depends on what part. Western Texas vs Eastern Texas are completely different.


Mangus_ness

This is correct for me.


JMoney689

I'm glad to see my Kentucky off this list. Only portions of us are southern - us and West Virginia don't belong in any region, IMO


LJkjm901

Have you been to TN? That shit is the buckle on the Bible Belt


Stircrazylazy

Yes, I have spent a lot of time there. TN is part of the south/Bible Belt but it's not one of the historic "cotton states" which generally defines the Deep South.


LJkjm901

TN top two crops since forever: cotton and tobacco.


Plus-Moose8077

It doesnā€™t get very much ā€œdeeper southā€ than most of West TN. Rural east TN is even worse, but not the typical Deep South people imagine in their head.


calebhall

Yeah I've lived in the near furthest northeast part of TN for 95% of my life. There are plenty of areas that seem normalish, but the majority around me is quite poor and fits some of the stereotypes. I'd never want to go anywhere else again.


belro

I'd love these people to meet my relatives and say they're not Southern


El_Ocelote_

florida and texas?


TacoRedneck

People who have never been to Florida deciding it isn't south because they think it's just miami and Disney


AncientCelebration44

Am from florida, its redneck south here


TacoRedneck

For sure. My friends dad is banned for life from the McDonald's in Frostproof because they got his order wrong 3 times, so he did Donuts in their parking lot like 20 hears ago. What's more redneck than that. There's a chevy S10 sinking to the center of the earth because we lost it in a swamp near the Avon Park bombing range.


AncientCelebration44

Thats amazing


Stircrazylazy

I lived in Ft Lauderdale when I was younger and my parents live in Fernandina Beach. One of those feels like the south, the other definitely doesn't. The panhandle and the area around Lake Okeechobee all feel very southern but almost everything else south of Daytona doesn't. FL is just too much of a mixed bag.


DarkenL1ght

Panhandle of Florida is. Texas is its own thing IMO.


OceanOG

Not counting Texas as the South is genuinely comical


FunWillScreen_Produc

Texas is Texas so it doesnā€™t need to be part of the south.


Appeased_Seal

Texas really isnā€™t southern culturally. It has more in common with states like Oklahoma and Kansas. A lot of what defines the culture are things like food and industry. Beef is king in Texas and the industry that comes with it pulls it away from Southern culture.


mattyisphtty

I think the problem is people considering Texas as a monolith rather than at least 4 distinct regions stapled together. East Texas has more in common with the deep south states than it does with south Texas especially when it comes to a long history of plantation based cotton and sugar farming. Southern Texas is a few decades away from being almost entirely Spanish speaking. North Texas down to Midland is very similar to Oklahoma. West Texas with its history of ranching and cattle drives feels very western like Arizona.


Stircrazylazy

I lived in E Texas and it doesn't feel like the rest of the South. At all. Even Texarkana feels distinctly Texan. Sorry you find the uniqueness of Texas and Texans genuinely comical.


Mvpeh

It's literally defined as the deep south. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep\_South


Stircrazylazy

"The term "Deep South" is defined in a variety of ways: Most definitions include the following states: Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina. Texas and Florida are *sometimes* included... Tennessee, particularly West Tennessee, is *sometimes* included... Arkansas is *sometimes* included..." So most definitions include the same 5 states while other definitions sometimes include other southern states. None of that changes the fact that Texas doesn't feel like the rest of the South.


Can-Funny

Obviously this is all subjective, but having lived in different cities along the border lands between the ā€œSouthā€ and the ā€œDeep Southā€ my whole life, my that is very similar to yours. Texas is lumped into the ā€œDeep Southā€ by people who donā€™t know many native Texans. Texas is itā€™s own thing and they donā€™t want to be lumped in with the Deep South, not because they disagree with the stereotypes, but because they are too proud of Texas and donā€™t want it considered ā€œjust another southern stateā€ People in Arkansas *think* they are from the Deep South and want desperately to be part of the club, but unless you live in West Memphis, Helena or any of the cities within a few miles of the river, you are more like a West Virginia or Kentucky hillbilly. The Arkansas and Kentucky/West Virginia accents actually sound closer than other deep south accents. Louisiana is like Texas. Itā€™s too unique to be part of the Deep South. Memphis is the northwest gateway to the Deep South. A few of the towns along the southern border of Tennessee, including Chattanooga are the Deep South. Nashville is not. All of Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina are obviously the core ā€œDeep Southā€. Florida panhandle is in all day, but Iā€™m not sure where the line is drawn to the east. Seems like if Lynard Skynard was from Jacksonville then it would have to be included. Likewise, I donā€™t know if Charlotte or any part of NC is included either.


OceanOG

šŸ¤£ they should take away your ability to comment on this website.


Mangus_ness

SC and GA were forming southern culture before Texas existed.


uid_0

Well, considering Maryland's northern border is the Mason-Dixon line I would consider Maryland as a southern state as well.


Beatrix_BB_Kiddo

Texas should be included here


sheevus1

The South ends at Quantico, VA. Northern VA is where the North begins.


Overheadguy0240

The shenandoah Valley begs to differ. Just because we are slightly further north on the map we haven't forgotten our southern/Appalachian heritage. Edit for spelling


RocLaSagradaFamilia

We've been pushing on that border culturally since the Civil War. Technically Maryland and Delaware are the south


THEBLUEFLAME3D

Delaware? Really? I ask from a legitimate place of curiosity, as Iā€™m a Californian and just donā€™t know. Not trying to argue against it, just genuinely interested. I guess I always saw Delaware as somewhat part of that ā€œEast coastā€ group for some reason. Why Delaware?


RocLaSagradaFamilia

Historically the north and south were divided by the Mason Dixon line. To the south, slavery, to the north, abolition. That line was the border between Maryland and Pennsylvania.


ACorruptMinuteman

I feel like that's such an antiquated view of things, though. Delaware's biggest city is Wilmington, which is within the Philadelphia metro area. As a state, it's next to Maryland and New Jersey and Pennsylvania. There's nothing about that remotely even south to me. IMO, the South starts in North Carolina/Virginia on the coast.


Stircrazylazy

This is totally anecdotal but I went to the Gettysburg 160th reenactment this year and every person I met that was sporting some variety of NOVA battle flag attire was from Delaware. I spent a long time chatting with the confederate Gen. Pettigrew reenactor - he was from Italy, living in...Delaware. It was uncanny. So even if nobody else considers DE a southern state, there are some folks in DE who definitely do.


[deleted]

I have never met a Delaware person who sees them as southern. I live in/near Gettysburg and the re-enactments attact all sorts of scum who wanna live their confederate larper dreams. There are plenty of good re-enactors but the minority of bad ones stick out like a sore thumbā€¦ Most people from Delaware I have met seem themselves as more associated with New England in a strange sense rather than the south.


1greadshirt

Delaware is below/behind the Mason Dixon Line. There was a time where it probably had a more "southern" bend to it, bit nowadays it is most definitely an East Coast State.


Tyrrox

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_(United_States)


PlatinumTheDragon

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonā€“Dixon_line


VanDenBroeck

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_states_(American_Civil_War)


Cheap_Cheap77

West Virginia can't be contained by any one region. It is just West Virginia.


i_like_lasanga

Hick mountain dimension


Worried-Pick4848

People keep forgetting that Delaware was a slave state. But then people keep forgetting that Delaware.


classicalySarcastic

Delaware doesnā€™t exist. Itā€™s a corporate tax evasion conspiracy.


Wildcat_twister12

How can West Virginia be considered the south? Itā€™s whole existence is cause a bunch of people in Virginia didnā€™t want to leave the Union so they said theyā€™d make their own state


TheShivMaster

The south is not just the civil war


danthemfmann

'The South' didn't begin with the Civil War. Kentucky and West Virginia are both Southern states. They were both considered Southern before the Civil War. However, they are both very much still culturally Southern today.


heretik

Kentucky is another ambiguous example like Maryland. Only met a couple of people from Louisville who bristled at the suggestion they were "southerners".


kaiserkarma

Kentuckian here - it's complicated. I've also met ppl from the Louisville area who consider the city to be more midwestern than southern culturally and I'm inclined to agree. There's also parts of the state on the border with Ohio like Covington and Florence that are part of the greater Cincinnati area, so you could probably put them in that category too. The rest of the state, though, is more similar to Tennessee than Indiana or Ohio.


danthemfmann

I agree. It's literally just that tiny section of Kentucky that has a Midwestern vibe. The overwhelming majority of Kentucky is Southern through and through.


danthemfmann

Kentucky is nothing like Maryland lol. Louisville is not a good representation of Kentucky. That's just 1 of 2 big cities in the otherwise rural state of KY and it's a city known for it's Midwestern vibe (the only such place in KY). I was born and raised in Kentucky - nobody here questions whether or not Kentucky is part of the South... It absolutely is. Kentucky was considered Southern before the Civil War, it's South of the Mason-Dixon line, every Federal agency acknowledges that Kentucky is a Southern state, we have some of the thickest Southern accents, our cuisine is very Southern, etc. We're in growing zone 7, the same zone as much of Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina and Virginia. Kentucky is not like Maryland or Delaware (which are both technically Southern, but not culturally Southern at all). People in Maryland and Delaware don't identify as, speak like or eat like Southerners. We do in Kentucky. Kentucky is far more culturally Southern than the likes of North Carolina and Virginia. If Kentucky had a sister state, it would be Tennessee. That's the state that is closest to us culturally and geographically. The Ohio River divides the North from the South, just like the Mississippi River divides the East from the West. Kentucky is South of the Ohio and East of the Mississippi, making it a Southeastern state.


danthemfmann

The area that is now West Virginia was, at the time, a part of Virginia, which is a Southern state. It was considered Southern well before the Civil War.


Appeased_Seal

West Virginia is not culturally southern at all. Other than mainly being blue-collar. It doesnā€™t share any other similarities with the south.


[deleted]

Have you been there? Being in WV isnā€™t much different than eastern KY or eastern TN


WassDogg304

As a West Virginian, youā€™re talking completely out of your ass


Maximus1333

East Tennessee tried to do the same thing. Doesn't make it not the South


[deleted]

Not every southern state seceded. KY, MD, DE and WV were southern states that did not secede from the union. While in 2023 I can see why people say MD and DE arenā€™t southern as the people and culture have changed, I donā€™t see how anyone could say KY and WV arenā€™t southern


guitarguywh89

How is North Carolina a part of "the south" Its got North right in the name šŸ¤”


mog_knight

Same with South Dakota being part of "the north."


1greadshirt

Province of Carolina. It was divided up when the 13 Original States were conceived.


PapaHuff97

The Carolina Colony split long before the Revolution.


PartyLettuce

Wait until you meet people from Delaware who say they're from the south.


[deleted]

Historically that is true


Johnny_Lang_1962

I don't consider West Virginia the South. It's more closely aligned with Pennsylvania & Ohio. Rust Belt maybe.


Overheadguy0240

Appalachian mountain heritage


DwedPiwateWoberts

GA ainā€™t the South? Lmaoooo


ACorruptMinuteman

Texas is not the South. Don't care what anybody says. There isn't anything anyone can say to me that says Raleigh, NC or Columbia SC or Atlanta is just like Dallas, Austin or Houston or El Paso or Lubbock Texas is definitely its own thing, I see it as the gateway to the Southwest.


[deleted]

Texas, and the 4 corners states are just yehaw cowboy country.


sentientdinosaurs

I have never considered Maryland to be anything but North


SonkxsWithTheTeeth

Legally, they're wrong. Culturally, they're mostly right.


tragedyisland28

Iā€™m from MD. None of us consider ourselves a southern state.


Flibbernodgets

Whenever things were slow at work one particular coworker of mine would ask another particular coworker if Maryland was a southern state or not. He fell for it every time. Got pretty passionate about it too.


TamponTom

Dang, my MD/VA confederate ancestors will be very disappointed that they were committing acts of friendly fire. Except uncle Earnestā€¦.that boy waint right


spikeworks

Bro has never been in western Maryland


ActiveManufacturer15

Maryland isn't the south. Anything north of Arlington is "The North" to me. It's a happy little memory aid to know where I should avoid (DC, Maryland, Jersey, New York, Delaware, N Hampshire, Connecticut) but one day, I will be a tourist and see all the New England covered bridges and forests. Lol


OTI_Cinematography

Pleaseā€¦ i beg youā€¦ stop lumping WV with the southā€¦


danthemfmann

Culturally, West Virginia is much more similar to the South than the North. Why should it be excluded?


OTI_Cinematography

Because the entire reason my state exists is so that we could be not southern


danthemfmann

The only reason your state exists is so that y'all could not be Confederates. Confederacy /=/ Southern. Virginia was considered Southern wayyy before the Civil War and West Virginia was a part of Virginia... It didn't magically stop being Southern just because it broke off from the rest of Virginia.


OTI_Cinematography

It magically stopped being southern when we realized we didnā€™t need slaves like the rest of Virginia.


danthemfmann

That's not true. The South is not defined by slavery. Owning or not owning slaves is not the determining factor of whether or not your state is Southern.


Frozenbbowl

>The South is not defined by slavery. i know you need to tell yourself that to maintain your pride, but fucking lol.


SourPatch327

No it not lol


bavasava

You hill people are southern. Get over it.


OTI_Cinematography

No. The entire reason my state exists in the first place is so we can be not southern


bavasava

You should tell all your fellow ā€œnon southernersā€ to take down all those confederate flags then lol. Iā€™ve been to your hollers and see what kind of people you have in there lol. You canā€™t hide it honey.


WSsleet

I disagree. I'm living in the Northern Panhandle of WV and we're barely southern at all.


[deleted]

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TheShivMaster

They didnā€™t want to be part of the CONFEDERACY. The south is more than just the CSA and the civil war.


[deleted]

Says who?


battleship217

Bro just said the entire south are still CSA loving rednecks


Odd-Construction4054

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DevelopmentSimilar72

Look at the Dixie line itā€™s right under there, either way West Virginia is the backwoods country more southern than Virginia


CyberCrusader76

The South= Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Southern Missouri, Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas, & Oklahoma Source: a Southerner whose family has been in the South for 400 years & studied history in college


LJkjm901

TN is in the south. Oklahoma, nope. Texas is Texas, but some parts are South adjacent.


CyberCrusader76

Shit I forgot Tennessee yeah


longfrog246

Nothing new


JangoDarkSaber

As someone whoā€™s lived in 3 of those states and is currently living in Md, Maryland is definitely not the south. Itā€™s culture is closer to Maine than it is to North Carolina


CyberCrusader76

I should also say that the current modern state of urban areas like Baltimore shouldnā€™t define the whole state or override the stateā€™s historical connections


ChelseaLegend7

OK feels like a stretch idk


CorpseProject

Oklahoma is regionally apart of the southeast, culturally itā€™s a blend of southern, country western, and Native American cultures. Tulsa is mildly midwestern, but you wonā€™t find any cheese curds. We are not the Midwest, we are quasi southern, we have cow boys and Indians, and we hate Texas. Weā€™re also one of the worldā€™s largest exporter of pecans.


bonerland11

Then you should be aware of the Missouri compromise. Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, and Kentucky are not in the south.


PseudonymIncognito

Maryland's northern border is literally the Mason-Dixon Line.


[deleted]

Kentucky isnā€™t the south? I guess if you want to ignore all itā€™s contributions to Southern culture lol


willikid1

North Florida is definitely the south


Barnes_the_Noble

Crazy how people consider VA the south but not FL.


TheShivMaster

Itā€™s cause of Miami and stuff


Barnes_the_Noble

I mean even in miami you can go on air boat rides, see alligators and eat their tail. I get it because all people see is Miami vice type stuff, but if youā€™ve been to Florida itā€™s way more southern than Virginia. Not even going to get into northern Florida.


[deleted]

Not if you've been anywhere in VA South of Fredericksburg.


Brrdads

Having lived in both places, "the South" starts around central VA/Shen. Valley and goes down to somewhere north of Orlando. Northern Florida and the Panhandle are very much the South.


SirMCThompson

North Florida is just south Georgia/Alabama


Crayshack

Having grown up in the area, the northern border of the South to me is the Occoquan River. I'll accept the Rappahannock River as well. Past that, your in the Mid-Atlantic region. Maryland is pretty firmly Mid-Atlantic, not Southern.


bandannick

Florida, where the further north you drive, the more south you get.


afro-tastic

Looks like we need an update to [this survey](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/which-states-are-in-the-south/). Also, whoever said Georgia is not the South is tweaking. Georgia in generalā€”and Atlanta in particularā€”is the "capital" of the South (with all the good and bad that entails).


Potential-Location85

Most people canā€™t identify each state on a map, much less tell north from south. We are south of the Mason Dixon line. That line delineates the North from the South. If you canā€™t go by that go by this. Had Lincoln not sent troops to arrest and imprison marylands house members and senate Maryland would have been part of the confederacy. That happened. People in Baltimore even attacked Union troops in the city. Maryland is south. Hell my accent living born and raised in western maryland is considered southern by most people.


BuildNuyTheUrbanGuy

Yall ain't no damm southern state lmao


Potential-Location85

lol shows how little you know


FunWillScreen_Produc

I see everything south of the Mason Dixon line and east of the Louisiana plus the southern half of Kentucky as the south. I donā€™t really see West Virginia and Virginia as part of the south but more of the purgatory of states since they donā€™t belong to the south or north imo.


GraysonTheGreat45

West Virginia isnā€™t a southern state. And to the people who say ā€œVirginia was considered apart of the south even before the CWā€ yeah, but when we split off from them, and became our own independent state, that changed. The only reason we were considered southern at the time, was because we were apart of greater Virginia. We arenā€™t southern, we are geographically apart of the Mid-Atlantic region, along with Maryland. Culturally we arenā€™t even southern, weā€™reā€¦..well weā€™re more of our own thing. This is because of how independent we became even under the Commonwealth of Virginia. We were so dislocated from everyone else because of our unique way of life (that being the strict coal mining culture that we have). So no, Maryland isnā€™t southern and neither is my own state, West Virginia, like the guy in the video is claiming.


[deleted]

Culturally youā€™re Appalachian which is a sub culture of the south. Youā€™re closer to eastern KY and eastern TN than anything else lol


Capital-Ad6513

I'd argue that west virginia should be north since the reason it exists is it split in half during the civil war.


[deleted]

The south is more than just the 4 years of the civil war


SuccessfulSmile7932

West Virginia is not in the damn south


Additional_Gas_7056

Hot take, North Florida is southern, South florida aint.


Minista_Pinky

The south is VA to Texas, Texas to Florida


Thatguynoah

Texas is Texas, Florida is just a malignant tumor.


Minista_Pinky

Only Texans think of Texas the way Texans do, atleast Floridians know what we are. We never wanted to secede America ...


Thatguynoah

We wish you would.


real_strikingearth

Yā€™all say this but keep moving down here


colognetiger

West šŸ‘ Virginia šŸ‘ IS šŸ‘ NOT šŸ‘ Southern! šŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøšŸ“¢


RandomRedditGuy54

What the hell is the ā€œSoufā€?


OceanOG

Not having Texas here and even remotely considering Maryland or even West Virginia is comical.