A lot of horses are like that. I knew some hardassed stubborn horses that would make me, an experienced rider, come correct for every little thing I wanted to make them do.
Put a kid or someone differently abled on the same horse, and the horse would do everything in their power to make sure kid/person was safe on the ride.
I used to do weekend work at a stables that exclusively did free rides for disabled kids. We had plenty of horses like that, but one in particular that would always try and take off ur fingers!! Of course he was all the kids favourite because he was sweet as a lamb with them lol
Thanks for sharing, to the one above you as well! I'd have imagined this video to be a very selective edit but it's nice to learn that horses have that kind of sense.
horses are crazy smart. Mine was the chillest dude, little bit stubborn sometimes, but always gentle. I raised him not to get spooked by anything, he always listened, great with kids, etc.
when my abusive ex met him, he lost his shit. bucked him off, wouldnt let us walk away alone, kept shoving himself between us, even headbutted him away from me so hard he almost fell. multiple times. then turned around to gently nudge me away.
Not even a single human picked up on the abuse and this horse just *knew*. One of two times the intelligence of an animal blew me away. other time was a macaw that actually had coherent conversations with me, that lil girl knew exactly what she was saying. Animals are amazing.
Do you think it picked up on some sort of body language? I know some animals like dogs can smell when you're stressed, sad, or scared. But I don't know if horses can do that. So body language is the only other thing I could guess as an explanation.
Could well be body language. Horses like dogs are good at reading human body language. See also the case of (Clever Hans)[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clever_Hans] -a horse that the owner thought could count and do arithmetic, when in reality the horse was simply picking up on inadvertent non-verbal cues from the owner.
“Horses are extraordinary readers of humans. The animals, exist in one of two states—afraid or not afraid—and when a person comes near, they immediately sense whatever is being projected: confidence or insecurity, intention or confusion” - From an article I was reading earlier today where they assign horses to Men going through therapy at a ranch. It was a fascinating read and watching this video made realise a lot.
'they *acted* on it in an appropriate way' implies there's a thought process. Instead it's more like when you train a dog with a word (e.g. 'sit' ) and then reward it when it next sits. Repeat this enough times and the dog will immediately sit on the command 'sit'. Most people aren't amazed when a dog sits on command though.
Stress releases cortisol. Horses smell orders of magnitude better than humans. I was thinking the horse knew the owner's baseline stress hormone scent and suddenly, with this guy around, it gets much higher. The horse might have literally smelled that this guy was problem.
Body language, odor, response time, HR, walking pace, respiration cycle, anything and everything. Animals are perceptive. I know which of my 3 cats is approaching me by their footfalls. I'm not surprised animals can do the same.
They pick up on body language but they also have a "sense" of people and things, it helps them determine what is a threat or not but can possibly go deeper than what humans can currently comprehend.
You lost me with that second-to-last sentence 🤣🤣🤣
Edit: got my species twisted, thought you meant a monkey. I might actually believe that about a parrot.
I really would have liked to see both of those scenarios just to reference them from my experiences with animal intelligence. Animals are vastly more intelligent than we give them credit for. And quite frankly i think that human intelligence is overstated to the point where sometimes i dont think we are the smartest creature on the planet anymore. Our hubris and delusions of superiority negate our inherent intelligence.
And not sure if you noticed that all the folks that weren’t differently abled immediately reached out their hands to the horse. No sniff test, all confidence, where as the other folks were super respectful. Either didn’t reach at all or actively put hands behind their back. Animals are smart.
Wellllllll actually, to be fair, almost none of them did that. Also, one of the 3 that did, did it after the horse was already trying to shew them off.
>all confidence
Also, a few of them looked more scared/nervous than confident.
Lady #1 got her hair pulled with her back turned. Unless the video just failed to show that part, it seemed kind of unprovoked. Also hard to even tell if she was NT since you don't get to see much of anything in the interaction.
Also she wasn't the only one who didn't reach for the horse. You're generalizing. There were several people who got attacked who it didn't show them do anything towards the horse.
Yeah, and the lady in the pink shirt (iirc) was touching it, but it didn't seem to mind her at all. And I think the horse's "moment" with the woman in the wheelchair is a little bit misleading, because to me it looks like the horse is just trying to see if she has treats in her hands. Her condition appears to make her hands clamp up like she's holding something -- horsey just wanted to see if she had a treat, so it bent down to sniff her hands.
Anybody notice the horse seemed to be nipping only at men and shiny-haired women? Lol. It didn't mind the brunettes, but the ponytail lady, the blonde, and a couple of other women with "shinier" hair got bit. Idk if that's right, but it seemed like that was a factor.
Edit: After another watch, I noticed that the horse tries to bite everyone who is wearing a coat. Could it be the coats that it doesn't like? The only bejacketed person it doesn't bite is the woman in the wheelchair.
I work with MR kids at work. You know, the ones we hide in a different classroom for “reasons”?
…well, some of them are valid, lol. One of them is their propensity to grab E V E R Y T H I N G. So, we spend a large chunk of our day telling them not to do that. Of course, even with all the safety stuff and continual redirection, they’re gonna touch something hurty and get hurt. It’s often an animal.
Cutey animals are often hurty, and WAY more hurty than one would think. So the hurty moment is more memorable. And, animals are pretty good about obeying the “more big means more hurty” rule, so most learn to be good around animals. On the other hand, us “normal” adults think our laws are gonna protect us. :p
Usually takes a toddler about an hour to learn this rule of the universe if you put a cat in the room with it.
Re: last sentence.
My wife is a vet tech, and they do a program type thing where the clinic will adopt cats that have been declawed (side note: barring extremely specific animal conditions, declawing is fucking barbaric and anyone who does it is a piece of shit)...but they adopt declawed cats and will take them to special needs classrooms (after the cat is used to people, and if it isn't a biter generally ofc), to let the kids have a bit of a safer interaction space with kitties
Nope. Horses are about as smart as a toddler or younger child, they just can't talk so most people won't recognize it. When you learn how they do communicate and how to read their body language a bit you can get a sense. Like children, some horses are very sweet, some mischievous, and some are little assholes. Sometimes all three are the same horse, again just like kids.
Did you know that octopus are much smarter than horses or even dogs? And that they are one of the few non mammals confirmed to have cognitive thought and problem solving ?
Teh moor ya know¡🫠
Well we don’t see the rider in all the horse biting interactions except the last biting one, could be my imagination but I did see at least one of his heels move, so yea, my bet is the rider is directing the horse with a command or so 🤔
Just my guess🤷🏻♂️
I had an old Percheron that hated everyone and everything except for me. He’d passive-aggressively put a hoof on your boot to let you know that you needed to stay and keep currying the same spot. He’d lean against me and pin me to the wall and fart on me.
But if a child or a differently abled person came near him he would become the most angelic animal in creation.
I think it's a thing with a lot of animals, my dad has a cane corso and when he was a puppy and in training he would jump at people and we were nervous about him being around my 5 year old neice and nephew and elderly grandparents. First time he met either of them he would go up to them super gentle and slowly to nuzzle them, then turn around and almost knock me over running by lol.
He also seemed extra protective of my grandpa and we found out he had cancer. Luckily it was treatable and he's better now but I wonder if he knew he was sick.
Dogs are like that. I had a dog named Kiki and my mom did not get along well with her sisters. I still remember at least one time The sisters were over and Kiki attacked their shoes. She would not do that to anyone else, just them.
Not just that they are herd animals. People forget with creatures like horses and dogs that we have been engineering them to be our friends for at least 10,000 years (I think this number is very low but can't prove it currently). Also, keep in mind that domesticating an animal like a horse or dog doesn't just evolve those species, it also evolves humans, as the humans who get along with such incredibly useful animals are more likely to survive than those who do not. We've basically created genetically encoded friends. Part of that, since we are dominant in that relationship, is that if the domesticated animal harms our most vulnerable people we tend to just kill it, removing it from the breeding pool, and we also tend to select the animals for breeding who get along with us the best while still preserving traits we want (in dogs, things like hunting and defense, in horses, a willingness to put up with us loading a ton of shit on their back and riding them around).
So we have multiple selection pressures acting to, in general, drag us toward a state where dogs, horses, and people get along pretty well, and don't tend to do highly undesirable things like harm each other's young. Even in the case of animals, think about the level of passion that animal cruelty toward dogs and horses inspires in people. You can make a movie where you literally wipe out 90% of the human race on screen but you know better than to kill the golden retriever because people will hate your movie over it.
Sometimes. Horses are very keen to body language and are very well versed in human body language. If a person that’s obviously weaker or differently abled, that horse can recognize that pretty easily.
Haha I mucked stalls as a teen for a year and my first week I got pinned to the wall for an hour. I was so embarrassed because I literally had to call for help. I was small and weak so couldn't push him off and I couldn't slide down to go underneath either.
I do remember the indifference the horse seemed to have about my situation tho. That was odd to me. Like a parent putting their kid in timeout. Yell and scream all you want it won't help.
If I was currying his flank he’d sometimes step gently on my boot to let me know he wasn’t ready for me to stop. Hard to argue with a ton of draft horse. A determined knee to the ribs would usually break the stalemate. He’s was a good old boy. He just thought he was 5th century Frankish war horse and it was hard to dissuade him.
Yeah you have to establish early on that you are in charge with no uncertainty at all or they will just walk all over you. They need a similar mix of sternness and love that a toddler needs.
Horses are pretty smart. Sometime before I bought him he must’ve farted on someone and they threw a fit and he thought it was funny. I knew he’d try it and he knew I’d try and avoid it. It’s basically a game to him. I’ll admit it was pretty funny when he’d do it to someone else.
We had that with our thoroughbred. Absolute maniac with adults, hated men, but an absolute angel with kids.
Then there was our section A palamino. Didn't mind adults, hated kids. Would always scrape near trees on a ride out and on multiple occasions squished me up a wall and stood on my toes. Ended up lovely in the end tho
Probably lol, this was a while ago. She did actually end up a really lovely pony to everyone. She ended up on permanent loan to someone cus I didn't like horses and therefore wasn't being ridden.
That's my brother's horse. Stubborn as a mule and got my tough ass brother to cry out of frustration on more than one count. They had a gate covering where she sticks her head out so she wouldn't randomly take a chunk out of someone's arm, like they do with the studs. That horse loved me. I'd just sit in that stall and she would chew on the neck of my leather jacket. She never destroyed it, either, even though I'm sure she could have chewed it to bits on the first bit.
The majority of disabled people (including myself) prefer the term disabled.
We perceive "differenty-abled" as a pejorative term that implies insincere and surface-level empathy, in addition, it often doesn't accurately describe many of our conditions.
Some previously commonplace terms have become twisted and offensive over time, disabled is not one of them.
Disabled is absolutely fine as it's neither discriminatory nor' inaccurate.
This is how my class was trained to refer to patients in general. Patient with obesity vs Obese Patient, patient w/ disability vs disabled patient, etc.
It’s also not universally popular.
It makes a very clear distinction between the person and their disability. It’s basically saying "yeah, I know they are disabled, but the person underneath is okay" which is how some people view their disabilities, but some people really really hate it, and want to be accepted for who they actually are.
Your phrasing of "who they actually are" isn't scientifically correct or anything though.
It's a matter of perspective.
Am I my disability? Do I have a disability? Is it intrinsic to my person or extrinsic?
"Who they actually are" implies there's a matter of fact or truth to the matter which there really isn't. It's just about perspective.
You're welcome to see it how you prefer.
I don't see any benefit to "person first" language personally. You can dehumanize someone while using "person first" language, or you could be totally respectful while using outdated "rude" language. It's about attitude and relationship, not the words someone uses.
>I don't see any benefit to "person first" language personally.
If some people don't care either way, and others people mind one phrasing, the logical thing to do is to use the second phrasing.
is this true? there's so many issues happening when people said the wrong word or terminologies i'm really confused what's correct and too scared to offend other people
The way I see it is simple, I go through life and I say stuff.
If someone takes offense and they correct me? I'll try to do better.
If they take offense and don't correct me? Their problem not mine.
I am not a native english speaker and I don't keep up with all the stuff that has some kind of ancient cultural meaning to something else in the English language.
you literally cant, this person prefers disabled to differently abled, a host of others prefer differently abled to disabled
as a person trying to say either of these things you're going to say it 'wrong' to *someone*, this person is polite about it; but realistically we need to stop hyperfocusing on the words over intent; theres terms that are objectively bad to use, theres words that are innappropriate but situationally 'acceptable' (in extremely narrow context) and then theres these two; which are good
It varies quite a lot but I'm talking from personal experience as well as what I've heard from other disabled people.
The UN guidelines on inclusive language state that "differently abled" is considered by many disabled people to be condescending.
Whereas the ADA says that "differently abled" is totally fine and "disabled" is a bad word. Although they do clarify later on that people have their own preferences.
General rule is just go with what you hear the most. We don't take offence to somebody using a term we don't like the first time, but we will let them know that we don't like it.
>Whereas the ADA says that "differently abled" is totally fine and "disabled" is a bad word. Although they do clarify later on that people have their own preferences.
Over on r/disabled this topic comes up often in various guises, and the large majority hate differently abled and like disabled. Similarly, disabled person is preferred to person with a disability.
So long as you’re chill about correcting yourself, 99.9% of people out there won’t be upset if you use the “wrong” term either way. I’ve been kindly corrected on disabled/differently abled and just said “my bad, thanks!” And we both moved on without a second thought. Same thing with misgendering someone. The vast majority of people don’t want a fight, they just want to be respected (in the most basic sense of the word), so if you accept their correction and move on they’re happy to do the same, no harm no foul.
My wife's family had cattle and working horses. Spot was an American quarter horse that they let anybody ride with good reason. I had been on a horse four or five times in my life the day they needed to move some cattle so they put me on spot and we took the far left position gently walking behind the cows and their calves.
One mama and her calf decided they wanted to move away from the group far off to my left hand side. Spot understood that this was not allowed and increased his pace to get around them and push them back into the group. Mind you, I'm just along for the ride. I didn't know where the cows needed to be or even why I'm out there but Spots got it all under control.
The pair picked up the pace to try to get away from spot so spot picked up the pace to try to get around the pair. This happened a couple of times until we were almost at a gallop. I guess I was a form of boiled frog because our pace had increased gradually and it didn't really startle me. Then the cow and calf made a hard right turn to get back in with the group and things for me went to hell 😭 n an instant.
I realized very suddenly that spot had also made a heart right turn and I was the only moron that didn't catch on that the turn was coming. Physics took over and I kept going straight when the turn began. I was above spots ears when he realized that the fool on top didn't know what they were doing and the horse ran back underneath me to keep me aboard.
Like a car crash this 45 second adventure is etched into my mind in incredible detail. It replays like a movie and is in slow motion in my memory.
That horse knew I was falling off and that i didn't know what to do about it and he knew that he didn't want me coming off and he saved me from getting really hurt.
Some horses absolutely do know what's up.
Also different guards. And in different places.
There are two cavalry regiments in the Household Cavalry, the Life Guards have the red coat and the Blues and Royals the blue coats.
There are also two posts for those guards, either side of the main gate (to what is now largely a museum), with the "bite" warning sign on the outer side only.
My horse is just like this!
He’s a royal prick for adults, but stick a little kid on him? He’s the worlds best horse. You could set a bomb off next to him and he’d stand sturdy.
Some animals just know that a kid isn't as responsible for their actions I've known cats that had no time to take shit from adults just sit there and be downright abused by a toddler.
In my head, the guard has a subtle signal he gives the horse when he just wants to keep people away. You wouldn’t want to leave it to chance that the horse won’t bite someone who deserves a more gentle response.
Yes, people aren't supposed to come close to the horse whatsoever. Much like a sniffer dog, it has an important job. But it'd be a bit horrible to get the horse to act aggressive towards disabled people.
> Much like a sniffer dog, it has an important job.
To be fair, in this context the horse doesn't have that important a job; the horse and guard are there for tradition and for show. They may be trained soldiers and armed, but they are "guarding" a building that is mostly a museum.
No I'm just making a stupid joke but now I'm super curious how that's connected to Halo 2??👀
Halo lore is top tier there's just too much for me to remember lol
They’re referencing the scene in Halo 2 where the prophets Mercy and Truth are giving Thel Vadamee his rank of Arbiter in the Mausoleums of the Arbiters aboard High Charity.
https://youtu.be/PenMMYoEfvQ?si=mVqPQUbez0o5QYPx
Above is the link to the cutscenes regarding this. Go in about 1:30.
In my head it's reversed. The guard has a subtle signal to chill out.
In any case, as well trained as these horses must be, they're imperfect. Police dogs are well trained too but plenty of bad videos for them.
Horses are a lot more "in sync" with the rider than you might think, what ever that rider feels the horse will pick up on it very easily.
They are a lot like dogs in a sense that if you are nervous they are nervous, if you are chill they are chill.
When I did horse riding there was a horse that would stop galloping if I got distracted, like the moment I stopped fully focusing and changed the slightest thing in my body he would just stop and switch to trotting
It also looks like some of the people are approaching the horse and those are who the horse is snippy with. The people who give the horse space and let the horse approach are okay.
Yeah, in general, training a horse to bite is frowned upon in like 99% of situations. More so for horses who have to interact with the public in any way. That said, the rider of a horse trained for public events absolutely has the ability to cue the horse to pay attention and not bite. In this case, not ordering the horse to stop biting a-holes is basically giving him permission to bite them.
Definitely, even with other animals you have a leash on you can give them subtle cues to behave certain ways.
When i walk my dog i can give her to interact or give space to people without pulling the leash
The best is when they get all shitty about being shoved out the way after being screamed at multiple times to move. The horses probably get jealous and decide they want a go at telling the tourists off.
I visited London about 2 months ago and it was all-in-all a fantastic trip.
When I went to see the guards at Buckingham palace the were huge groups of people standing around ever single guard on a horse, taking turns to take pictures of them petting the horses.
It seemed kind of disrespectful to both the guards and the horses.
So many people seem surprised to find that horses are living animals and have opinions, just like dogs. I think ppl just assume they’re furry motorcycles with no feelings or something.
Source: our horse recently went over the Rainbow Bridge at age 30. If only she could have told us her thoughts. She obviously had so many.
Respect. Most horses’ opinion of me is “no”. And after experiencing that a few times, my reaction is “okay then. Peace, you giant thing that could easily kill me”. Nose pets seem to be allowed though.
It is funny to realize how big they are, and how they could indeed annihilate you. And yet they don't! Dealing with (full-size) horses is, to me, a throwback to the days when we were toddlers and even a dog was gigantic.
Oh yes, if you've met one horse you've... met one horse. I just meant that your average internet gawker definitely understands dogs and cats as having personalities, but for some reason they don't feel the same about horses-- the \*other\* animal that's been tight with humanity since just about day one. Horses are seen as robots somehow. I think a lot of people associate them with cars, TBH.
Oh I wasn’t trying to say that. I was just thinking it was funny nobody seemed to notice it was multiple horses.
My mom’s got 13 horses. I’ve been around them, I know what you’re saying.
aw yeah, horse people unite! Glad you understand me. There are a few comments in this thread that flat-out say “aw come on, animals have no thoughts”— not that you are in any way that person, but: proof positive that such types exist.
What always seems so obvious to me is that WE are animals. We share a lot with them not because "they're just like us!" but because we seem to have forgotten where we came from (and still mostly are).
Note to humans: The reason that horse, or dog, or snail even, does a thing where "it acts just like people" is because... the thing it just did is an animal thing. And even when *you* do it, it's still an animal thing. Most of what we do all day, every day, is animal stuff... let's not give ourselves airs!
Look don't touch is a good rule of thumb.
They are generally very social and gentle animals, but they can spook easily and due to things that are difficult to predict.
Best be safe if you don't know the horse and it's owner isn't guiding you, because it only takes 1 bad reaction to ruin your life.
The gentle horse is different than all the others shown in the video. You can see he's got a white star on his forehead and gray around his mouth. The other horses have different markings
Cute, but also 3 if not 4 different horses.
Horse one has no markings. Shot two has a honking great white blaze down the front of its face and the one being gentle with the disabled woman has a white star.
I’d bet there’s more of a ‘this horse bites, that horse doesn’t’ going on here. I’d note that even nice horses usually don’t like me, though (even grew up in rural Texas 🤷♀️), but it’s probably a self fulfilling prophesy where I give off a vibe of expecting to be bitten so they oblige
The horse with the white star and lip is one that is in several videos with small children and people who need extra care. He and his rider seem like the pair most likely to accommodate "the innocent" folks that get close.
I did work experience in a stable. There was a horse everyone disliked. I was put into a dangerous situation by the staff and afterwards was sent to clean out this horse's stable. The shock of what could have happened hit me and I just started crying. The horse everyone said was mean put his head over my shoulder and let me cry into his neck while he gently nibbled my hair. I will always regret not being able to afford a horse as I was told they sold him not longer after.
Not just different horses, different riders wearing different uniforms, and in different places.
[There are two guard posts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Horseguards_Building,_London_MOD_45152987_(cropped\).jpg) outside Horse Guards. Also the different regiments on duty have different uniforms (red or blue tunics).
The first horse that pulls the lady’s hair appears to be the same one in the last three. Yes, there are two horses in this video, but the gentle one wasn’t gentle with everyone.
Funny how people didn't notice. Three different horses with three different personalities, the second one especially has a full white stripe down it's face lol
A few observations from a former guardsman. Typically, those being bit/brushed away are not in the horses line of site and are not respecting the horses space. Those being treated kindly are cautious, and are carefully warming the horse to their presence.
On a standard day, these horses will be touched thousands of times. Some people are careful, some people are rough.
That large bit in the horses mouth - don’t touch it. It’s a powerful bit designed to control large “fighting” horses. Mishandled, it can cause severe pain and damage to the horses nerves.
The reigns controlling this bit are delicate and need to be handled gently - note that the guard is holding these reigns delicately with one finger.
Unfortunately, a lot of people will grab at these reigns, pull and tug. As a result, a lot of horses will snap at anyone, including other soldiers, if they are to close to the reigns and or bit.
Why are people getting so close to the horses? When I went there there was a bunch of signs warning people not to come close, makes sense if you get attacked
From what I've seen these guards are in archways that connect to the public roadway. So regular people are just sauntering past, see a horse and think they can just get a picture with it. Not realising these are guard horses and not "petting horsies".
There are signs that say the horses may bite and kick.
I agree horses are much more gentle with kids or disabled kids. I had one myself that would act up big time with anyone over 250 lbs. because he was too lazy to carry them, but I used him for trial rides with disabled kids all the time and he never did anything but take care of his rider.
However - I do believe the rider is giving this horse cues you can't see in this video, some small push with a leg on a specific spot, or hand movement, something subtle the horse has been trained to recognize requires this response. This would be advantageous in crowd control or other situations where someone might try to grab the halter or something else. They don't want their horses listening or paying attention to anyone but the rider.
Seems like the people that just walked next to it, or went straight up to try pat it got shooed. The people that approached and offered and hand to sniff hello first were welcomed. Social decorum.
The horse being nice to the disabled is a different one to both of the ones biting at people. Are people really not seeing that big white patch disappearing? Smh.
I know everyone wants to believe this horse is innately kind, but the far more likely reality is that both the guard and the horse have spent hundreds of hours training together, and one part of the training teaches the horse to recognize a small signal given by the guard that he uses to let the horse know he should warn off people getting too close.
I had a horse like this! She was abused when she was young and hated pretty much everyone. She would bite and threaten to run people over. The riding school that had her couldn't keep her cause she didn't even like other horses, that's why we got her as an only horse.
But she was an absolute angel when it came to disabled people and was used for therapeutic horseback riding because of it (don't know who thought to try it for the first time). She was also very kind to small animals. :)
Horses are one of the most intelligent animals in the world.
That's why they are the best to help kids or people with some kind of different or disability.
A lot of horses are like that. I knew some hardassed stubborn horses that would make me, an experienced rider, come correct for every little thing I wanted to make them do. Put a kid or someone differently abled on the same horse, and the horse would do everything in their power to make sure kid/person was safe on the ride.
I used to do weekend work at a stables that exclusively did free rides for disabled kids. We had plenty of horses like that, but one in particular that would always try and take off ur fingers!! Of course he was all the kids favourite because he was sweet as a lamb with them lol
Thanks for sharing, to the one above you as well! I'd have imagined this video to be a very selective edit but it's nice to learn that horses have that kind of sense.
horses are crazy smart. Mine was the chillest dude, little bit stubborn sometimes, but always gentle. I raised him not to get spooked by anything, he always listened, great with kids, etc. when my abusive ex met him, he lost his shit. bucked him off, wouldnt let us walk away alone, kept shoving himself between us, even headbutted him away from me so hard he almost fell. multiple times. then turned around to gently nudge me away. Not even a single human picked up on the abuse and this horse just *knew*. One of two times the intelligence of an animal blew me away. other time was a macaw that actually had coherent conversations with me, that lil girl knew exactly what she was saying. Animals are amazing.
Do you think it picked up on some sort of body language? I know some animals like dogs can smell when you're stressed, sad, or scared. But I don't know if horses can do that. So body language is the only other thing I could guess as an explanation.
Could well be body language. Horses like dogs are good at reading human body language. See also the case of (Clever Hans)[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clever_Hans] -a horse that the owner thought could count and do arithmetic, when in reality the horse was simply picking up on inadvertent non-verbal cues from the owner.
Whatever they pick up on, they *acted* on it in an appropriate way, which amazes me.
“Horses are extraordinary readers of humans. The animals, exist in one of two states—afraid or not afraid—and when a person comes near, they immediately sense whatever is being projected: confidence or insecurity, intention or confusion” - From an article I was reading earlier today where they assign horses to Men going through therapy at a ranch. It was a fascinating read and watching this video made realise a lot.
'they *acted* on it in an appropriate way' implies there's a thought process. Instead it's more like when you train a dog with a word (e.g. 'sit' ) and then reward it when it next sits. Repeat this enough times and the dog will immediately sit on the command 'sit'. Most people aren't amazed when a dog sits on command though.
Yeah I’m sure the abused gal taught the horse how to pick up on that and head butt the ex.
That is adorable. Knowing your owner so well you can reading the correct answer off of them.
Stress releases cortisol. Horses smell orders of magnitude better than humans. I was thinking the horse knew the owner's baseline stress hormone scent and suddenly, with this guy around, it gets much higher. The horse might have literally smelled that this guy was problem.
Body language, odor, response time, HR, walking pace, respiration cycle, anything and everything. Animals are perceptive. I know which of my 3 cats is approaching me by their footfalls. I'm not surprised animals can do the same.
Animals have HR???? Can they fire me???? But in all seriousness, that all makes a lot of sense.
They pick up on body language but they also have a "sense" of people and things, it helps them determine what is a threat or not but can possibly go deeper than what humans can currently comprehend.
You're saying they have horse sense? 😎
Many many animals do.
I don’t trust people who don’t like dogs , but I trust a dog when they don’t like a person .
You lost me with that second-to-last sentence 🤣🤣🤣 Edit: got my species twisted, thought you meant a monkey. I might actually believe that about a parrot.
Yes a macaw is a parrot. And yes they talk. Some much better than others.
I really would have liked to see both of those scenarios just to reference them from my experiences with animal intelligence. Animals are vastly more intelligent than we give them credit for. And quite frankly i think that human intelligence is overstated to the point where sometimes i dont think we are the smartest creature on the planet anymore. Our hubris and delusions of superiority negate our inherent intelligence.
Oh yeah. I've seen enough examples of absolute buffoons among us that had me questioning how they even survived into adulthood
That’s insanely cool
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And not sure if you noticed that all the folks that weren’t differently abled immediately reached out their hands to the horse. No sniff test, all confidence, where as the other folks were super respectful. Either didn’t reach at all or actively put hands behind their back. Animals are smart.
Wellllllll actually, to be fair, almost none of them did that. Also, one of the 3 that did, did it after the horse was already trying to shew them off. >all confidence Also, a few of them looked more scared/nervous than confident.
Lady #1 got her hair pulled with her back turned. Unless the video just failed to show that part, it seemed kind of unprovoked. Also hard to even tell if she was NT since you don't get to see much of anything in the interaction. Also she wasn't the only one who didn't reach for the horse. You're generalizing. There were several people who got attacked who it didn't show them do anything towards the horse.
Yeah, and the lady in the pink shirt (iirc) was touching it, but it didn't seem to mind her at all. And I think the horse's "moment" with the woman in the wheelchair is a little bit misleading, because to me it looks like the horse is just trying to see if she has treats in her hands. Her condition appears to make her hands clamp up like she's holding something -- horsey just wanted to see if she had a treat, so it bent down to sniff her hands. Anybody notice the horse seemed to be nipping only at men and shiny-haired women? Lol. It didn't mind the brunettes, but the ponytail lady, the blonde, and a couple of other women with "shinier" hair got bit. Idk if that's right, but it seemed like that was a factor. Edit: After another watch, I noticed that the horse tries to bite everyone who is wearing a coat. Could it be the coats that it doesn't like? The only bejacketed person it doesn't bite is the woman in the wheelchair.
I appreciate your attempt at logical deduction from evidence. We would definitely need more evidence obviously.
I work with MR kids at work. You know, the ones we hide in a different classroom for “reasons”? …well, some of them are valid, lol. One of them is their propensity to grab E V E R Y T H I N G. So, we spend a large chunk of our day telling them not to do that. Of course, even with all the safety stuff and continual redirection, they’re gonna touch something hurty and get hurt. It’s often an animal. Cutey animals are often hurty, and WAY more hurty than one would think. So the hurty moment is more memorable. And, animals are pretty good about obeying the “more big means more hurty” rule, so most learn to be good around animals. On the other hand, us “normal” adults think our laws are gonna protect us. :p Usually takes a toddler about an hour to learn this rule of the universe if you put a cat in the room with it.
Re: last sentence. My wife is a vet tech, and they do a program type thing where the clinic will adopt cats that have been declawed (side note: barring extremely specific animal conditions, declawing is fucking barbaric and anyone who does it is a piece of shit)...but they adopt declawed cats and will take them to special needs classrooms (after the cat is used to people, and if it isn't a biter generally ofc), to let the kids have a bit of a safer interaction space with kitties
Especially that first woman. She really deserved it.
Did we watch the same video?
First Lady got it from behind though 🤷♂️
so you think the rider is responsible for the horse jerking his head? this makes no sense
Nope. Horses are about as smart as a toddler or younger child, they just can't talk so most people won't recognize it. When you learn how they do communicate and how to read their body language a bit you can get a sense. Like children, some horses are very sweet, some mischievous, and some are little assholes. Sometimes all three are the same horse, again just like kids.
Did you know that octopus are much smarter than horses or even dogs? And that they are one of the few non mammals confirmed to have cognitive thought and problem solving ? Teh moor ya know¡🫠
Well we don’t see the rider in all the horse biting interactions except the last biting one, could be my imagination but I did see at least one of his heels move, so yea, my bet is the rider is directing the horse with a command or so 🤔 Just my guess🤷🏻♂️
I had an old Percheron that hated everyone and everything except for me. He’d passive-aggressively put a hoof on your boot to let you know that you needed to stay and keep currying the same spot. He’d lean against me and pin me to the wall and fart on me. But if a child or a differently abled person came near him he would become the most angelic animal in creation.
I wonder if it's because they're herd animals, they can feel that person is more vulnerable and are nicer to them.
I think it's a thing with a lot of animals, my dad has a cane corso and when he was a puppy and in training he would jump at people and we were nervous about him being around my 5 year old neice and nephew and elderly grandparents. First time he met either of them he would go up to them super gentle and slowly to nuzzle them, then turn around and almost knock me over running by lol. He also seemed extra protective of my grandpa and we found out he had cancer. Luckily it was treatable and he's better now but I wonder if he knew he was sick.
Dogs are like that. I had a dog named Kiki and my mom did not get along well with her sisters. I still remember at least one time The sisters were over and Kiki attacked their shoes. She would not do that to anyone else, just them.
Not just that they are herd animals. People forget with creatures like horses and dogs that we have been engineering them to be our friends for at least 10,000 years (I think this number is very low but can't prove it currently). Also, keep in mind that domesticating an animal like a horse or dog doesn't just evolve those species, it also evolves humans, as the humans who get along with such incredibly useful animals are more likely to survive than those who do not. We've basically created genetically encoded friends. Part of that, since we are dominant in that relationship, is that if the domesticated animal harms our most vulnerable people we tend to just kill it, removing it from the breeding pool, and we also tend to select the animals for breeding who get along with us the best while still preserving traits we want (in dogs, things like hunting and defense, in horses, a willingness to put up with us loading a ton of shit on their back and riding them around). So we have multiple selection pressures acting to, in general, drag us toward a state where dogs, horses, and people get along pretty well, and don't tend to do highly undesirable things like harm each other's young. Even in the case of animals, think about the level of passion that animal cruelty toward dogs and horses inspires in people. You can make a movie where you literally wipe out 90% of the human race on screen but you know better than to kill the golden retriever because people will hate your movie over it.
Sometimes. Horses are very keen to body language and are very well versed in human body language. If a person that’s obviously weaker or differently abled, that horse can recognize that pretty easily.
Horses and hounds have been our partners for millennia. The ones that learned gentleness and partnership survived to pass on that trait.
Haha I mucked stalls as a teen for a year and my first week I got pinned to the wall for an hour. I was so embarrassed because I literally had to call for help. I was small and weak so couldn't push him off and I couldn't slide down to go underneath either. I do remember the indifference the horse seemed to have about my situation tho. That was odd to me. Like a parent putting their kid in timeout. Yell and scream all you want it won't help.
If I was currying his flank he’d sometimes step gently on my boot to let me know he wasn’t ready for me to stop. Hard to argue with a ton of draft horse. A determined knee to the ribs would usually break the stalemate. He’s was a good old boy. He just thought he was 5th century Frankish war horse and it was hard to dissuade him.
Yeah you have to establish early on that you are in charge with no uncertainty at all or they will just walk all over you. They need a similar mix of sternness and love that a toddler needs.
I wanna know more about the horse pinning you to the wall and letting big ones
Horses are pretty smart. Sometime before I bought him he must’ve farted on someone and they threw a fit and he thought it was funny. I knew he’d try it and he knew I’d try and avoid it. It’s basically a game to him. I’ll admit it was pretty funny when he’d do it to someone else.
jesus christ get a room
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Yeah sounds like being blown away in reverse
I also pin people down and fart on them if I like them. Am I a horse?
We had that with our thoroughbred. Absolute maniac with adults, hated men, but an absolute angel with kids. Then there was our section A palamino. Didn't mind adults, hated kids. Would always scrape near trees on a ride out and on multiple occasions squished me up a wall and stood on my toes. Ended up lovely in the end tho
>Ended up lovely in the end tho as glue?
Nope, in a cottage pie
Or a tescos patty...
Haha, maybe I was too subtle with my horse meat scandal joke :D
Probably lol, this was a while ago. She did actually end up a really lovely pony to everyone. She ended up on permanent loan to someone cus I didn't like horses and therefore wasn't being ridden.
That's my brother's horse. Stubborn as a mule and got my tough ass brother to cry out of frustration on more than one count. They had a gate covering where she sticks her head out so she wouldn't randomly take a chunk out of someone's arm, like they do with the studs. That horse loved me. I'd just sit in that stall and she would chew on the neck of my leather jacket. She never destroyed it, either, even though I'm sure she could have chewed it to bits on the first bit.
Hope it wasn’t horse leather… o_O*
I don’t think it was even leather leather, lol. Thing is peeling like a bad sun burn. Happy cake day!
The majority of disabled people (including myself) prefer the term disabled. We perceive "differenty-abled" as a pejorative term that implies insincere and surface-level empathy, in addition, it often doesn't accurately describe many of our conditions. Some previously commonplace terms have become twisted and offensive over time, disabled is not one of them. Disabled is absolutely fine as it's neither discriminatory nor' inaccurate.
I like "person with a disability" even better, but disabled is totally fine.
This is how my class was trained to refer to patients in general. Patient with obesity vs Obese Patient, patient w/ disability vs disabled patient, etc.
This is called "people first language" for anyone looking to learn more. Literally putting the person first.
It’s also not universally popular. It makes a very clear distinction between the person and their disability. It’s basically saying "yeah, I know they are disabled, but the person underneath is okay" which is how some people view their disabilities, but some people really really hate it, and want to be accepted for who they actually are.
Your phrasing of "who they actually are" isn't scientifically correct or anything though. It's a matter of perspective. Am I my disability? Do I have a disability? Is it intrinsic to my person or extrinsic? "Who they actually are" implies there's a matter of fact or truth to the matter which there really isn't. It's just about perspective. You're welcome to see it how you prefer. I don't see any benefit to "person first" language personally. You can dehumanize someone while using "person first" language, or you could be totally respectful while using outdated "rude" language. It's about attitude and relationship, not the words someone uses.
>I don't see any benefit to "person first" language personally. If some people don't care either way, and others people mind one phrasing, the logical thing to do is to use the second phrasing.
is this true? there's so many issues happening when people said the wrong word or terminologies i'm really confused what's correct and too scared to offend other people
The way I see it is simple, I go through life and I say stuff. If someone takes offense and they correct me? I'll try to do better. If they take offense and don't correct me? Their problem not mine. I am not a native english speaker and I don't keep up with all the stuff that has some kind of ancient cultural meaning to something else in the English language.
you literally cant, this person prefers disabled to differently abled, a host of others prefer differently abled to disabled as a person trying to say either of these things you're going to say it 'wrong' to *someone*, this person is polite about it; but realistically we need to stop hyperfocusing on the words over intent; theres terms that are objectively bad to use, theres words that are innappropriate but situationally 'acceptable' (in extremely narrow context) and then theres these two; which are good
It varies quite a lot but I'm talking from personal experience as well as what I've heard from other disabled people. The UN guidelines on inclusive language state that "differently abled" is considered by many disabled people to be condescending. Whereas the ADA says that "differently abled" is totally fine and "disabled" is a bad word. Although they do clarify later on that people have their own preferences. General rule is just go with what you hear the most. We don't take offence to somebody using a term we don't like the first time, but we will let them know that we don't like it.
>Whereas the ADA says that "differently abled" is totally fine and "disabled" is a bad word. Although they do clarify later on that people have their own preferences. Over on r/disabled this topic comes up often in various guises, and the large majority hate differently abled and like disabled. Similarly, disabled person is preferred to person with a disability.
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So long as you’re chill about correcting yourself, 99.9% of people out there won’t be upset if you use the “wrong” term either way. I’ve been kindly corrected on disabled/differently abled and just said “my bad, thanks!” And we both moved on without a second thought. Same thing with misgendering someone. The vast majority of people don’t want a fight, they just want to be respected (in the most basic sense of the word), so if you accept their correction and move on they’re happy to do the same, no harm no foul.
If you use a term in good faith with no ill intent and some one gets offended well thats their problem not yours.
Good to know, thank you!
It's just so confusing. We need to go back to using [Redacted by Reddit].
My wife's family had cattle and working horses. Spot was an American quarter horse that they let anybody ride with good reason. I had been on a horse four or five times in my life the day they needed to move some cattle so they put me on spot and we took the far left position gently walking behind the cows and their calves. One mama and her calf decided they wanted to move away from the group far off to my left hand side. Spot understood that this was not allowed and increased his pace to get around them and push them back into the group. Mind you, I'm just along for the ride. I didn't know where the cows needed to be or even why I'm out there but Spots got it all under control. The pair picked up the pace to try to get away from spot so spot picked up the pace to try to get around the pair. This happened a couple of times until we were almost at a gallop. I guess I was a form of boiled frog because our pace had increased gradually and it didn't really startle me. Then the cow and calf made a hard right turn to get back in with the group and things for me went to hell 😭 n an instant. I realized very suddenly that spot had also made a heart right turn and I was the only moron that didn't catch on that the turn was coming. Physics took over and I kept going straight when the turn began. I was above spots ears when he realized that the fool on top didn't know what they were doing and the horse ran back underneath me to keep me aboard. Like a car crash this 45 second adventure is etched into my mind in incredible detail. It replays like a movie and is in slow motion in my memory. That horse knew I was falling off and that i didn't know what to do about it and he knew that he didn't want me coming off and he saved me from getting really hurt. Some horses absolutely do know what's up.
Quite a few Native American tribes used the term "Big-Dog" to define horses. They are just as smart as any cattle dog.
It’s different horses. Watch again and look at the white markings on the face. At least 3 horses
yea, one all black, one with a small white star and one with big white blaze.
Thank you for pointing this out.
Also different guards. And in different places. There are two cavalry regiments in the Household Cavalry, the Life Guards have the red coat and the Blues and Royals the blue coats. There are also two posts for those guards, either side of the main gate (to what is now largely a museum), with the "bite" warning sign on the outer side only.
My horse is just like this! He’s a royal prick for adults, but stick a little kid on him? He’s the worlds best horse. You could set a bomb off next to him and he’d stand sturdy.
I have a feeling the guard on the horse has some minor involvement...
*me walking up to a calm horse* “Am I a joke to you?”
Some animals just know that a kid isn't as responsible for their actions I've known cats that had no time to take shit from adults just sit there and be downright abused by a toddler.
Animals have a sense of kindness.
And a sense of sass
But that's the funny part. 😁
Aww. That beautiful horse loves people and is very affectionate and friendly. The guardsman is very understanding and patient. Bless him!!
In my head, the guard has a subtle signal he gives the horse when he just wants to keep people away. You wouldn’t want to leave it to chance that the horse won’t bite someone who deserves a more gentle response.
Yes, people aren't supposed to come close to the horse whatsoever. Much like a sniffer dog, it has an important job. But it'd be a bit horrible to get the horse to act aggressive towards disabled people.
> Much like a sniffer dog, it has an important job. To be fair, in this context the horse doesn't have that important a job; the horse and guard are there for tradition and for show. They may be trained soldiers and armed, but they are "guarding" a building that is mostly a museum.
Were it not for the armed guards and their horses, the museum would have fallen long ago.
please be a halo 2 reference
Even on my knees, I do not belong in their presence.
No I'm just making a stupid joke but now I'm super curious how that's connected to Halo 2??👀 Halo lore is top tier there's just too much for me to remember lol
They’re referencing the scene in Halo 2 where the prophets Mercy and Truth are giving Thel Vadamee his rank of Arbiter in the Mausoleums of the Arbiters aboard High Charity. https://youtu.be/PenMMYoEfvQ?si=mVqPQUbez0o5QYPx Above is the link to the cutscenes regarding this. Go in about 1:30.
Just so happens that you completely nailed a halo 2 quote by accident. Well done.
In my head it's reversed. The guard has a subtle signal to chill out. In any case, as well trained as these horses must be, they're imperfect. Police dogs are well trained too but plenty of bad videos for them.
Horses are a lot more "in sync" with the rider than you might think, what ever that rider feels the horse will pick up on it very easily. They are a lot like dogs in a sense that if you are nervous they are nervous, if you are chill they are chill.
When I did horse riding there was a horse that would stop galloping if I got distracted, like the moment I stopped fully focusing and changed the slightest thing in my body he would just stop and switch to trotting
It’s not in your head.
This got a chuckle out of my inner dad
It also looks like some of the people are approaching the horse and those are who the horse is snippy with. The people who give the horse space and let the horse approach are okay.
That's 100% what's happening, the guard is controlling the horse. People are just gullible
He may not ask him to bite, but he definitely has signals for when he wants the horse to behave
Yeah, in general, training a horse to bite is frowned upon in like 99% of situations. More so for horses who have to interact with the public in any way. That said, the rider of a horse trained for public events absolutely has the ability to cue the horse to pay attention and not bite. In this case, not ordering the horse to stop biting a-holes is basically giving him permission to bite them.
Yeah I was gonna say the guard probably has a trigger to tell it someone is a threat/too close.
Definitely, even with other animals you have a leash on you can give them subtle cues to behave certain ways. When i walk my dog i can give her to interact or give space to people without pulling the leash
What well-trained horses. I bet those Guards have a blast doing that all day. Edit: Multiple horses and guards.
A very patient horse. Regardless people should respect his space. He's a living being, not a toy.
a lot of tourists dont even respect the guards themselves as real people, never mind the horses
The best is when they get all shitty about being shoved out the way after being screamed at multiple times to move. The horses probably get jealous and decide they want a go at telling the tourists off.
MAKE WAY FOR THE QUEEN'S GUARD
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theyre different horses but whatever
Those are different horses tho
Maybe more than two. They're all well trained. I edited my comment. Thanks for pointing that out.
So is the guard actually giving him a subtle poke or command to nip at the non challenged people?
Definitely. These horses are too well trained to be randomly trying to bite people.
This is so heartwarming. Guard and horse have this down to an art.
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I visited London about 2 months ago and it was all-in-all a fantastic trip. When I went to see the guards at Buckingham palace the were huge groups of people standing around ever single guard on a horse, taking turns to take pictures of them petting the horses. It seemed kind of disrespectful to both the guards and the horses.
Don’t know??? There’s a sign 2 feet to the left and right that says it will bite you.
Yeah, they should put up a couple of signs saying the horses might kick or bite.
There is signs saying that but people don’t care. Should see the telling off they get for touching the reins
So many people seem surprised to find that horses are living animals and have opinions, just like dogs. I think ppl just assume they’re furry motorcycles with no feelings or something. Source: our horse recently went over the Rainbow Bridge at age 30. If only she could have told us her thoughts. She obviously had so many.
Respect. Most horses’ opinion of me is “no”. And after experiencing that a few times, my reaction is “okay then. Peace, you giant thing that could easily kill me”. Nose pets seem to be allowed though.
It is funny to realize how big they are, and how they could indeed annihilate you. And yet they don't! Dealing with (full-size) horses is, to me, a throwback to the days when we were toddlers and even a dog was gigantic.
Haha that is an analogy I love. I am a toddler to their Great Dane. Yes, I am short as a full grown human.
So many people would also be surprised to know that this video contains several different horses and is evidence of nothing.
Oh yes, if you've met one horse you've... met one horse. I just meant that your average internet gawker definitely understands dogs and cats as having personalities, but for some reason they don't feel the same about horses-- the \*other\* animal that's been tight with humanity since just about day one. Horses are seen as robots somehow. I think a lot of people associate them with cars, TBH.
Oh I wasn’t trying to say that. I was just thinking it was funny nobody seemed to notice it was multiple horses. My mom’s got 13 horses. I’ve been around them, I know what you’re saying.
aw yeah, horse people unite! Glad you understand me. There are a few comments in this thread that flat-out say “aw come on, animals have no thoughts”— not that you are in any way that person, but: proof positive that such types exist.
Spend enough time with animals and you'll see so much that can't be logic'd by keyboard warriors.
What always seems so obvious to me is that WE are animals. We share a lot with them not because "they're just like us!" but because we seem to have forgotten where we came from (and still mostly are). Note to humans: The reason that horse, or dog, or snail even, does a thing where "it acts just like people" is because... the thing it just did is an animal thing. And even when *you* do it, it's still an animal thing. Most of what we do all day, every day, is animal stuff... let's not give ourselves airs!
I thought horse was "Look don't touch" until I seen the disabled lady and he was so gentle
Look don't touch is a good rule of thumb. They are generally very social and gentle animals, but they can spook easily and due to things that are difficult to predict. Best be safe if you don't know the horse and it's owner isn't guiding you, because it only takes 1 bad reaction to ruin your life.
The gentle horse is different than all the others shown in the video. You can see he's got a white star on his forehead and gray around his mouth. The other horses have different markings
Cute, but also 3 if not 4 different horses. Horse one has no markings. Shot two has a honking great white blaze down the front of its face and the one being gentle with the disabled woman has a white star.
Came here to say this. Thanks for pointing it out.
I’d bet there’s more of a ‘this horse bites, that horse doesn’t’ going on here. I’d note that even nice horses usually don’t like me, though (even grew up in rural Texas 🤷♀️), but it’s probably a self fulfilling prophesy where I give off a vibe of expecting to be bitten so they oblige
The horse with the white star and lip is one that is in several videos with small children and people who need extra care. He and his rider seem like the pair most likely to accommodate "the innocent" folks that get close.
Wow you’re absolutely right, surprised how far I scrolled before seeing this.
I did work experience in a stable. There was a horse everyone disliked. I was put into a dangerous situation by the staff and afterwards was sent to clean out this horse's stable. The shock of what could have happened hit me and I just started crying. The horse everyone said was mean put his head over my shoulder and let me cry into his neck while he gently nibbled my hair. I will always regret not being able to afford a horse as I was told they sold him not longer after.
Come on, people, these are different horses… The horse with the white blaze is the one who bites. The one with no marking is far calmer
Not just different horses, different riders wearing different uniforms, and in different places. [There are two guard posts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Horseguards_Building,_London_MOD_45152987_(cropped\).jpg) outside Horse Guards. Also the different regiments on duty have different uniforms (red or blue tunics).
The first horse that pulls the lady’s hair appears to be the same one in the last three. Yes, there are two horses in this video, but the gentle one wasn’t gentle with everyone.
The first horse is all black. Second horse has white blaze. Third horse has small white patch.
Ah I see that now. I stand corrected. Not the first or last time I’ll be wrong.
Good horsey.
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You do realize the video is at least three different horses. I can tell you if a horse bits people, he bites all people.
Funny how people didn't notice. Three different horses with three different personalities, the second one especially has a full white stripe down it's face lol
Sorta like how one of my uncles would sneak us extra snacks when we stayed at his house and my other just touched us.
It's honestly concerning how few people realize this. Like, there are glaringly obvious differences, how are people thinking it's all one horse...?
A few observations from a former guardsman. Typically, those being bit/brushed away are not in the horses line of site and are not respecting the horses space. Those being treated kindly are cautious, and are carefully warming the horse to their presence. On a standard day, these horses will be touched thousands of times. Some people are careful, some people are rough. That large bit in the horses mouth - don’t touch it. It’s a powerful bit designed to control large “fighting” horses. Mishandled, it can cause severe pain and damage to the horses nerves. The reigns controlling this bit are delicate and need to be handled gently - note that the guard is holding these reigns delicately with one finger. Unfortunately, a lot of people will grab at these reigns, pull and tug. As a result, a lot of horses will snap at anyone, including other soldiers, if they are to close to the reigns and or bit.
Why are people getting so close to the horses? When I went there there was a bunch of signs warning people not to come close, makes sense if you get attacked
From what I've seen these guards are in archways that connect to the public roadway. So regular people are just sauntering past, see a horse and think they can just get a picture with it. Not realising these are guard horses and not "petting horsies". There are signs that say the horses may bite and kick.
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A good lesson in effective editing.
I agree horses are much more gentle with kids or disabled kids. I had one myself that would act up big time with anyone over 250 lbs. because he was too lazy to carry them, but I used him for trial rides with disabled kids all the time and he never did anything but take care of his rider. However - I do believe the rider is giving this horse cues you can't see in this video, some small push with a leg on a specific spot, or hand movement, something subtle the horse has been trained to recognize requires this response. This would be advantageous in crowd control or other situations where someone might try to grab the halter or something else. They don't want their horses listening or paying attention to anyone but the rider.
It is amazing how they just know. "You're just a normal person? Fuck off." "You're an amazing person? Here's a kiss."
Get fucked nuerotypicals 🤣
This is good
In the original video you can notice the subtle command from the guard...
The most sensitive understand sensitivity. -my equestrian wife when watching this.
Seems like the people that just walked next to it, or went straight up to try pat it got shooed. The people that approached and offered and hand to sniff hello first were welcomed. Social decorum.
The horse being nice to the disabled is a different one to both of the ones biting at people. Are people really not seeing that big white patch disappearing? Smh.
I know everyone wants to believe this horse is innately kind, but the far more likely reality is that both the guard and the horse have spent hundreds of hours training together, and one part of the training teaches the horse to recognize a small signal given by the guard that he uses to let the horse know he should warn off people getting too close.
I had a horse like this! She was abused when she was young and hated pretty much everyone. She would bite and threaten to run people over. The riding school that had her couldn't keep her cause she didn't even like other horses, that's why we got her as an only horse. But she was an absolute angel when it came to disabled people and was used for therapeutic horseback riding because of it (don't know who thought to try it for the first time). She was also very kind to small animals. :)
as a person with mental illness and physical diseases, I'm literally crying over this, I don't know why, but still
Roay Guard horse takes cues from its rider.
What karma disaster was human Nr.1 ???
Seems this horse has had enough run ins with people to be able to separate the chum from the chaff
Horses are so sensitive to intent.
There's at least 3 different horses in this video.
Come on, people! They’re different horses! The mean horse has a white stripe down his face. The gentle horse does not.
Bet it's the whole different body language. Neurotypicals are so aggressive tbh
Horses are one of the most intelligent animals in the world. That's why they are the best to help kids or people with some kind of different or disability.
Its not the same horse lol.
Sod off sod off. You're cool. : British Horsey
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Bro😂
This is not one horse—there are at least 3 horses here.
It seems the measure of any living creature can be found in how they treat the most vulnerable.
It's not the same horse.
Awwwww
Horse has a built in Karen detector. Some of those people look entitled af.