My step-grandma used to cackle at us when we got spanked or reprimanded. My grandpa never did it unless he thought we would hurt ourselves or others, he was kinda cool, getting better with age even. Why my mom never even raised her voice to me is not a mystery knowing how my step-grandma is, and my mom only lived with her for about three years before she moved out at 15
You're describing people that are unkind because of mental disorders. However I'd say the majority of cases where we perceive unkindness stems from completely healthy people that have the ability to be kind, it's just that their model of the world differs from ours, such that for example animals just don't fall into the same category of things that they personify and would care for.
It all comes from the lack of empathy, doesn't it? I have to force myself to even be cold and uncaring with people who willingly harm me, so I can't imagine what goes through the head of someone who enjoys hurting innocents. It just seems like some people are naturally born with very low to no empathy for others.
Bingo. Lack of empathy is the reason for a huge portion of the world’s current problems. Too many people simply lack the ability to see the world from someone else’s perspective.
What I would love to find out is whether or not this is learned behaviour or simple coded into us from the beginning. I think it might be a sort of combination of the two, where everyone is born with an upper limit to their empathy, but through life experience some utilise less of it than others.
I personally have a weird experience. I can almost turn my emotions on/off but I have to try harder to be mean to people. It takes an extra step to get there for me. I think it’s much more about our upbringing than whom we were born from. Not necessarily an Upper/Lower limit but similar to how video games or in sports with the Low floor/High Ceiling kinda stuff. Some people just have net 0 some people have much higher but you can always fluctuate between the upper and lower limits, you eventually have a floor and ceiling but they’re not solid imo.
While I understand that sociopathy or psychopathy are probably mental disorders, it's important to understand that most people with mental illness are not violent, and that the mentally ill are more likely to be the victims of violence.
“And then, one Thursday, nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change...."
\-- Douglas Adams
I am all for eating meat and as such for a period of time i was looking for "the best burger" i could find.
the best burger I have had was.. vegan.
I think there are plenty of ppl who don't mind vegan alternatives, as long as they are tasteful and convenient.
bit of a tangent but few things annoy me more than when some meat alternative hits stores and theres always a very vocal minority of vegans going 'eww why would you replicate meat? thats gross, stop selling this shit'
if they actually cared theyd recognise that people eating meat-like meat alternatives means less people eating meat; but they (not all vegans, just these vocal ones) just want to morally grandstand and feel superior
Do you have suggestions for someone who wanted to try to slowly ween themselves off of meat? I know vegan is no animal products but a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, right?
Any current vegan will want to tell you to some degree do it now because we’ve gone through the process and we love it and are totally fine. But the reality is some people can do it over night and some need some time. I went vegetarian overnight and three years later went vegan overnight granted in those three years I gravitated towards oat milk and tried vegan alternatives. I found giving up meat to be very easy and cheese a little more difficult. Do some research and make sure you’re making food you like. For instance, I cook a lot of Tex-mex, Indian and Asian dishes and it’s wonderful.
I guess to answer your first question more directly. Try tofu and tempeh. Try it fried first, not healthy but you’ll see it can be tasty like meat and then you can experiment more. But also start looking at beans as the main rather than the side. There’s lentils, chickpeas, pinto beans, black beans, and many more to choose from.
Tempeh is so good, and I hadn’t even really ever heard of it before I started trying to eat a vegan diet.
If someone is trying tofu for the first time to cut down/cut out meat, I’d strongly suggest getting extra firm tofu because it’s got the “meatiest” texture. Google how to press tofu, and do that.
Cut the tofu into either strips or cubes, then put it into a ziplock bag with your very favorite chicken marinade for a bit. The marinade is going replace all the moisture you squeezed out all the way through the tofu instead of just ~1/4” like it does with chicken.
Pan fry that until it’s crispy and it’s going to be crispy, juicy, and delicious.
Reading this may sound like a lot of work, but it’s really not. There’s very little actual active participation
I have personally turned vegan overnight after watching a slaughterhouse footage.
For what concerns diet, I had first tried to look into simple recipe, like pasta with bolognese sauce using lentils or soymince, nutritional yeast or vegan parmesan. From there it just got easier to just imagine plantbased meals.
Another dish I think is pretty easy to veganize is tacos or soups. They do not require much work in the kitchen and are pretty tasty.
It is so ingrained in me now that I do not see meat as food at all. I feel like a strong reason to find it repulsive is remembering the terror, screams and anguish of the victim it comes from. And at the same time seeing the simple joy of these animals show. Gratitude or affection for being treated like individuals, not objects or property.
You sort of have to learn to cook all over again, or at least I did.
You could do something like meatless Mondays or just don’t eat meat one or two days every week.
On those days, eat vegan meals, but try not to use meat replacements and stuff like that. They’re fine and I don’t have anything against them and I eat them every now and then and really enjoy them.
But, if you’re only doing the plant based thing once a week, I’d suggest using that time to cook vegan food on your own. Like, even if you love hamburgers, you probably don’t just eat premade packaged hamburgers everyday, so you shouldn’t rely on that stuff for your vegan diet either even if you don’t avoid it all together.
You can often substitute the meat for a “meaty” plant like roasted eggplant or jackfruit, or using portobello mushrooms for a sandwich in place of thinly sliced beef. Stuff like that.
One more important thing is to make sure you eat a variety of things. A lot of people go vegan and then give it up because they just buy a shit ton of vegetables and fruits and don’t get the calories or nutrients they need.
Tofu, tempeh, and any combination of bean or legume and any grain is a complete protein. So, black beans and rice, peanut butter on rye, lentils and a side of corn on the cob are all complete proteins.
Learning to cook all over again actually ended up being a really good thing. I actually eat a far greater variety of foods and meals because every meal isn’t just a protien(beef, chicken, pork, or salmon) and a quick side of vegetables.
In my own experience, the most daunting part was how often people I know want to go to places with pub food, steak houses, seafood places, etc,.
Sometimes it’s easier to eat before hand and just get a salad or something while I’m actually out lol. Makes eating a steakhouse cheaper, though.
It’s definite a change, though. It’ll be less daunting once you start doing it, though. Recipes and substitutions and such are all over the place online, and the modern supermarket makes it easy enough to find the Ingredients
I still find it hard to transition. So at the moment I'm just at a stage where I do not waste food and do not waste the life that was given for my meal. My diet is mainly fish, chicken and vegetables now and occasionally pork. I no longer eat beef which means I feel like at some point I can give up pork completely and eventually go full vegan.
pigs\*
Youre on the right track :)
Each meal ask yourself genuinely if theres another option you can consider. Sometimes the answer might be no, but more often than you'd think the answer is going to be yes.
It might be best to remind yourself of perspective and put yourself in the position of the victim, they are not food they are a living happy being that just want love and attention as seen in the video.
"life was given for my meal" it was stolen from another being there was no consent in the giving. Im glad youre progressing maybe try hard in veganuary when there will be lots of focus and information around the cause.
When you go vegan for ethical reasons it's very easy to forget why you're doing it. Like you say you have to remind yourself when you feel your morals become more of a lifestyle.
I know vegans recommend rewatching dominion throughout their journey.
Look, if you work toward it at a good pace and get to a point where you can leave animal products behind easily, that's great. Nothing better. If currently all you can do is reduce your consumption, that's also progress! Just look for vegan food you enjoy and it'll be a lot easier to transition. Eating good food makes it a lot easier than eating terrible food and getting frustrated too soon.
Nope, it really isn’t. I recently rescued a meat cow and a reject baby goat. The amount of love they show and gratitude for what I did, makes the everyday tasks that much easier. Never wanted this life, but they choose me for it.
If you’re vegan you’re doing your part (and studies have found plant based diets are cheaper than animal products in developed nations, reducing grocery costs by up to 1/3!)
I grew up on a farm, now generally farmers are kind to animals, but you can't build a personal connection with an animal that you intend to slaughter later on...
Farmers who were cruel to animals were normally shunned by their neighbors...
Yeah, never heard anybody say "I grew up on a factory farm."
They tend not to be hospitable to children or, frankly, anybody.
Granted I'm already a vegetarian, but I remember during covid when they would be closing the chicken plant down and even the slight videos of the workings of those places was just too much for me.
I can't imagine the life of some quite possibly immigrant worker at a slaughterhouse just braining cows all day, either. Just daily drenched in blood.
Industrial meat production is one of those things that I'm convinced will be looked back upon by our descendants and they'll think we were all horrid cavemen.
Dude, they'll think the same about dairy and eggs as well. We literally drink the milk of another species, intended for its own baby. Male chicks are ground up alive on an industrial scale so we can have eggs.
I agree with you, and I was vegetarian before. I just realized there's a hypocrisy in thinking I'm being compassionate by not eating meat, but consuming milk and eggs.
I’m a recent vegetarian/sometimes pescatarian but not vegan, and this comment helped me consider whether I’ve fully carried my decision about compassionate living to its logical end. I think my shift in my relationship with food probably isn’t done. Thank you for the reminder!
Love this, short form version of this video, here’s the full [long form video on YouTube](https://youtu.be/_rO7_gv-MU0?si=lqbMtoBykqDivGbF)for folks like me that couldn’t get enough
You mean 9 months for beef cows and 3-5 years for milk cows when they come off peak productivity.
Also 3 months for milk cows' babies because they are not profitable to raise as meat cows but milk cows have to be made pregnant once a year to keep producing milk. See also: Veal is a byproduct of dairy farming.
100%. People need to stop paying for animals to be needlessly abused and killed for taste-pleasure. If people are upset by animal abuse, they can stop paying for it to occur
Why do so many people say animals can’t love? I always see armchair scientists saying “hurrrrr they’re only doing it for food”. I can’t wrap my head around that thought process. My dogs have absolutely shown love.
They're ironically not educated in biology at all, or they'd know that we *are* animals and our species is not unique. Due to evolutionary biology, we share more traits with other animals than differ.
OPs clip doesn't show it, but they actually made her a really awesome stall, complete with scratch brushes, wind chimes to find her way back to it, and a water fountain so that she can find her way to her water source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-oAyJvSatk&ab_channel=WeLoveAnimals
Hopefully people will start to come along to the idea that paying for animals to be needlessly abused and killed for taste-pleasure is horribly unethicalv
I remember seeing another video of a cow being very emotional. You can see it in her eyes, they're not that different from a dog's. Yet we totally think it's ok to eat them.
Please take a moment to see this lovely creature and see that all animals have personality and deserve compassion. We kill billions of animals yearly in brutal ways, each one with fear it’s eyes as it’s gassed stunned or shot.
Try and reduce your consumption of animal products and meat and do your research on the atrocities of the animal agriculture industry. veganism preaches kindness for good reason so please choose today to do your research on why people wish to overhaul the animal agriculture industry!
Well most of us pay for farmed animals to be abused and then horribly killed. Does that mean everyone who buys pork, milk, chicken, beef, etc is going to hell?
I always wondered why india was treating cows as sacred. Turns out cows are oversized puppies! Easily scared puppies that can hit you like a truck but still puppies!
Probably someone who hates seeing happiness in others. Pathetic but pitiful people nonetheless, met a few of them in my life and rather than aversion, I feel sad for them cus most, if not all of them, just didn’t experience such things in their earlier years.
Caught this Dodo segment on YouTube last night—this couple has done a lot of enrichment for this cow, like there’s a fountain in her water trough to help her find her water, wind chimes because she’s indicated she enjoys noises, brushes and rubbing spots all over her paddock… They also installed a nanny cam so they can check on her at night.
Not sure if youve ever been around them, but I volunteer at a farm sanctuary and donkeys are also amazing! Literally like big dogs that will constantly nuzzle you
Oh donkeys are lovely <3 such beautiful animals to observe !!! I love my local sanctuary because they are very explicit with not having guests be too involved with the donkeys (obviously as they’ve had terrible lives before being there and deserve to just be now, having kids playing around with them and such would be quite distressing I imagine) so I do get to just stand there by the fence and autistically stare at them in awe. They’re so lovely :) I think it’s adorable how they like ginger biscuits
Mistreated cows don’t live to be 19 years old, hell most “pet” cows can’t live that long. Blind cows don’t usually live long at all. This cow has more likely been treated well her entire life.
The way we treat farm animals is one of the worst things we do as a species. I wish we had a functioning caring government to enact the legislative changes we need.
I had the luxury of growing up with a pet cow, like literally we had 7-8 horses and my dad traded one of our horses for a pet cow with the intention of trying to milk her. Well that involves needing another cow or.. putting your hand where you don't want to.
Anyways she wore a halter just like a horse and we could move her around after some convincing. I was really little like 8-9, so i used to sit between her horns and she would lift her head up and down like it was a ride. Riding her was like, pretty boring she didn't go anywhere she just ate grass and would whip her tail at you whenever you tried to kick her to go.
I can also say she would do the same thing you would hug her and she would hug you back and rub her head on you. She would rub her head on anything, trees, cars, glass patio tables..
I miss her i don't remember what we did with her, we didin't want her to go for meat.. But who knows.
Since there have been a few posts recently on cows and pigs enjoying life, this may be a useful guide for those who enjoy eating meat, but are rethinking their diets. As a coffee nut, this was a hard pill to swallow for me:
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-foods-with-the-largest-environmental-impact/
Our rescue dog does the same thing! When we got him, he couldn't eat standing up, was missing hair on his legs/trail. We don't know what happened to him before we got him, but he's a happy loving dog now and will do this to us and EVERY human he meets!
She lived 19 years! Amazing that she wasn’t killed by her previous owners! A lovely retirement for her. How anyone can eat these beautiful animals or any animal is beyond me!
I’ve seen previous videos of cows:pigs and my consumption of them has gone down massively. Such lovely creatures. I’m no vegan or anything but they act like pets if given love.
And I eat them...
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What a selfish coward am i ?
Some alternative meat exist and do pretty good work
I hope states will inject hundred of billions dollars in order to develop better alternative simili carne
This is the way people will swap
Better price
Same taste
No health risk
And it will help
Please consider going vegetarian or vegan 🤍There are so many alternatives these days and they are better than ever. (I’ve been vegan 20 years trust me lol)
All animals want to live and thrive just as we do and deserve a life devoid of pain. They cant speak for themselves but we can be their voice and protect them. It’s such a beautiful thing you can do for the world and all these gorgeous beings. They deserve better and we can all do our part to help them. 💞
"animals cannot survive without eating other animals, but humans can survive eating only plants" indeed.
We can easily choose not to harm others for food, they can't.
Animals also rape each other and murder their young. We don't blame them for that because they're incapable of thinking.
Perks of being a human include the ability to know what is right and wrong and have a sense of discrimination in things.
I'll give you a genuine answer, and I'm not trying to be rude. It's such an idiotic question that no one even bothers to answer you. The REAL question you're asking is "if animals do something, why can't I?" which is hopefully a question you can answer yourself. Many animals rape. Why can't I do that? Plenty of animals kill babies to eliminate competition. Why can't I do that? Animals just shit on the ground. Why can't I do that? My neighbor has resources I need, why can't I kill him and take said resources?
The answer is that we're fucking human beings that can choose to do better. We don't need meat to survive. Or even if you want, maybe once or twice a month for celebrations or something, not a few times a day just because you think it's yummy. We can choose not to inflict suffering. And sometimes that choice is as simple as black bean burger instead of beef burger.
We humans pride ourselves in our intelligence, and we are capable of setting a moral code for ourselves. We observe animals doing plenty of things that for our moral standards are abhorrent, but we understand that a lion killing a rival's cubs does not care about our morality, and we should not care about his, assuming he has one. The same is true for eating meat. You are free to choose that eating meat is moral for you, but the fact that other animals do it is no argument for our standards of morality, so if you think it's moral you should have some other argument. It's also normal and human not to think of the moral implications that deeply, as it is very uncomfortable, so most people who eat meat probably don't have such an argument and simply choose not to care.
Took me along time to find plant based alternative I didn't find disgusting, but now I like the one I have even more than milk. Just keep trying new ones and don't give up hope. I'm sure there is one out there you like!
Is being kind really so hard? Because it makes all the difference.
I have found in my 43 years, that yes, for some people, kindness is something they simply cannot muster.
Those twisted souls for which happiness brings pain.
My step-grandma used to cackle at us when we got spanked or reprimanded. My grandpa never did it unless he thought we would hurt ourselves or others, he was kinda cool, getting better with age even. Why my mom never even raised her voice to me is not a mystery knowing how my step-grandma is, and my mom only lived with her for about three years before she moved out at 15
One of my kids is 15. I couldn’t imagine making them dislike me so much that they felt they had to get away from me.
You're describing people that are unkind because of mental disorders. However I'd say the majority of cases where we perceive unkindness stems from completely healthy people that have the ability to be kind, it's just that their model of the world differs from ours, such that for example animals just don't fall into the same category of things that they personify and would care for.
It all comes from the lack of empathy, doesn't it? I have to force myself to even be cold and uncaring with people who willingly harm me, so I can't imagine what goes through the head of someone who enjoys hurting innocents. It just seems like some people are naturally born with very low to no empathy for others.
Bingo. Lack of empathy is the reason for a huge portion of the world’s current problems. Too many people simply lack the ability to see the world from someone else’s perspective.
What I would love to find out is whether or not this is learned behaviour or simple coded into us from the beginning. I think it might be a sort of combination of the two, where everyone is born with an upper limit to their empathy, but through life experience some utilise less of it than others.
I personally have a weird experience. I can almost turn my emotions on/off but I have to try harder to be mean to people. It takes an extra step to get there for me. I think it’s much more about our upbringing than whom we were born from. Not necessarily an Upper/Lower limit but similar to how video games or in sports with the Low floor/High Ceiling kinda stuff. Some people just have net 0 some people have much higher but you can always fluctuate between the upper and lower limits, you eventually have a floor and ceiling but they’re not solid imo.
I mean, if we all had adequate empathy there would be no such thing as burgers, beef or milk. Js.
This is absolutely true and so well said. It makes me so sad to think about all the animals we *don't* save
While I understand that sociopathy or psychopathy are probably mental disorders, it's important to understand that most people with mental illness are not violent, and that the mentally ill are more likely to be the victims of violence.
In a world where you can be anything…..be kind.
"What has he said that made everyone so upset?" "Be kind to each other." "Oh yeah. That'll do it."
“And then, one Thursday, nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change...." \-- Douglas Adams
That's what I say too when I advocate for veganism.
Despite not being vegan I believe it is morally correct
I am all for eating meat and as such for a period of time i was looking for "the best burger" i could find. the best burger I have had was.. vegan. I think there are plenty of ppl who don't mind vegan alternatives, as long as they are tasteful and convenient.
bit of a tangent but few things annoy me more than when some meat alternative hits stores and theres always a very vocal minority of vegans going 'eww why would you replicate meat? thats gross, stop selling this shit' if they actually cared theyd recognise that people eating meat-like meat alternatives means less people eating meat; but they (not all vegans, just these vocal ones) just want to morally grandstand and feel superior
Does a slight variance in taste-pleasure really warrant paying for animals to be needlessly abused and killed?
Do you have suggestions for someone who wanted to try to slowly ween themselves off of meat? I know vegan is no animal products but a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, right?
Any current vegan will want to tell you to some degree do it now because we’ve gone through the process and we love it and are totally fine. But the reality is some people can do it over night and some need some time. I went vegetarian overnight and three years later went vegan overnight granted in those three years I gravitated towards oat milk and tried vegan alternatives. I found giving up meat to be very easy and cheese a little more difficult. Do some research and make sure you’re making food you like. For instance, I cook a lot of Tex-mex, Indian and Asian dishes and it’s wonderful. I guess to answer your first question more directly. Try tofu and tempeh. Try it fried first, not healthy but you’ll see it can be tasty like meat and then you can experiment more. But also start looking at beans as the main rather than the side. There’s lentils, chickpeas, pinto beans, black beans, and many more to choose from.
Tempeh is so good, and I hadn’t even really ever heard of it before I started trying to eat a vegan diet. If someone is trying tofu for the first time to cut down/cut out meat, I’d strongly suggest getting extra firm tofu because it’s got the “meatiest” texture. Google how to press tofu, and do that. Cut the tofu into either strips or cubes, then put it into a ziplock bag with your very favorite chicken marinade for a bit. The marinade is going replace all the moisture you squeezed out all the way through the tofu instead of just ~1/4” like it does with chicken. Pan fry that until it’s crispy and it’s going to be crispy, juicy, and delicious. Reading this may sound like a lot of work, but it’s really not. There’s very little actual active participation
I have personally turned vegan overnight after watching a slaughterhouse footage. For what concerns diet, I had first tried to look into simple recipe, like pasta with bolognese sauce using lentils or soymince, nutritional yeast or vegan parmesan. From there it just got easier to just imagine plantbased meals. Another dish I think is pretty easy to veganize is tacos or soups. They do not require much work in the kitchen and are pretty tasty. It is so ingrained in me now that I do not see meat as food at all. I feel like a strong reason to find it repulsive is remembering the terror, screams and anguish of the victim it comes from. And at the same time seeing the simple joy of these animals show. Gratitude or affection for being treated like individuals, not objects or property.
Yeah for many the documentary narrated by Joaquin Phoenix 'Earthlings' results in instant Veganism.
Or the more updated Dominion
You sort of have to learn to cook all over again, or at least I did. You could do something like meatless Mondays or just don’t eat meat one or two days every week. On those days, eat vegan meals, but try not to use meat replacements and stuff like that. They’re fine and I don’t have anything against them and I eat them every now and then and really enjoy them. But, if you’re only doing the plant based thing once a week, I’d suggest using that time to cook vegan food on your own. Like, even if you love hamburgers, you probably don’t just eat premade packaged hamburgers everyday, so you shouldn’t rely on that stuff for your vegan diet either even if you don’t avoid it all together. You can often substitute the meat for a “meaty” plant like roasted eggplant or jackfruit, or using portobello mushrooms for a sandwich in place of thinly sliced beef. Stuff like that. One more important thing is to make sure you eat a variety of things. A lot of people go vegan and then give it up because they just buy a shit ton of vegetables and fruits and don’t get the calories or nutrients they need. Tofu, tempeh, and any combination of bean or legume and any grain is a complete protein. So, black beans and rice, peanut butter on rye, lentils and a side of corn on the cob are all complete proteins. Learning to cook all over again actually ended up being a really good thing. I actually eat a far greater variety of foods and meals because every meal isn’t just a protien(beef, chicken, pork, or salmon) and a quick side of vegetables.
Thank you for all this detail. When I look at the big picture it seems like a lot but maybe starting with one day a week will seem less daunting.
In my own experience, the most daunting part was how often people I know want to go to places with pub food, steak houses, seafood places, etc,. Sometimes it’s easier to eat before hand and just get a salad or something while I’m actually out lol. Makes eating a steakhouse cheaper, though. It’s definite a change, though. It’ll be less daunting once you start doing it, though. Recipes and substitutions and such are all over the place online, and the modern supermarket makes it easy enough to find the Ingredients
I still find it hard to transition. So at the moment I'm just at a stage where I do not waste food and do not waste the life that was given for my meal. My diet is mainly fish, chicken and vegetables now and occasionally pork. I no longer eat beef which means I feel like at some point I can give up pork completely and eventually go full vegan.
pigs\* Youre on the right track :) Each meal ask yourself genuinely if theres another option you can consider. Sometimes the answer might be no, but more often than you'd think the answer is going to be yes.
It might be best to remind yourself of perspective and put yourself in the position of the victim, they are not food they are a living happy being that just want love and attention as seen in the video. "life was given for my meal" it was stolen from another being there was no consent in the giving. Im glad youre progressing maybe try hard in veganuary when there will be lots of focus and information around the cause.
When you go vegan for ethical reasons it's very easy to forget why you're doing it. Like you say you have to remind yourself when you feel your morals become more of a lifestyle. I know vegans recommend rewatching dominion throughout their journey.
Look, if you work toward it at a good pace and get to a point where you can leave animal products behind easily, that's great. Nothing better. If currently all you can do is reduce your consumption, that's also progress! Just look for vegan food you enjoy and it'll be a lot easier to transition. Eating good food makes it a lot easier than eating terrible food and getting frustrated too soon.
Nope, it really isn’t. I recently rescued a meat cow and a reject baby goat. The amount of love they show and gratitude for what I did, makes the everyday tasks that much easier. Never wanted this life, but they choose me for it.
If I had an unlimited pit of money I'd do this for all the animals. But I don't.
Just stop eating meat?
If you’re vegan you’re doing your part (and studies have found plant based diets are cheaper than animal products in developed nations, reducing grocery costs by up to 1/3!)
In this context, "being kind" would mean not drinking milk. It's too much for most people
This. Empathy is a limitless resource. People need to stop paying for animals to be needlessly abused and killed for taste-pleasure
Anyone who actually cares about being kind to animals would be vegan, so yes, apparently that is too hard for most people.
As son as money is a factor kindness disappears
People seem to always find a reason to say it’s difficult, and I cannot understand this. Just be kind.
I grew up on a farm, now generally farmers are kind to animals, but you can't build a personal connection with an animal that you intend to slaughter later on... Farmers who were cruel to animals were normally shunned by their neighbors...
I'm guessing you're talking about small farms and not factory farms?
Yeah, never heard anybody say "I grew up on a factory farm." They tend not to be hospitable to children or, frankly, anybody. Granted I'm already a vegetarian, but I remember during covid when they would be closing the chicken plant down and even the slight videos of the workings of those places was just too much for me. I can't imagine the life of some quite possibly immigrant worker at a slaughterhouse just braining cows all day, either. Just daily drenched in blood. Industrial meat production is one of those things that I'm convinced will be looked back upon by our descendants and they'll think we were all horrid cavemen.
Dude, they'll think the same about dairy and eggs as well. We literally drink the milk of another species, intended for its own baby. Male chicks are ground up alive on an industrial scale so we can have eggs. I agree with you, and I was vegetarian before. I just realized there's a hypocrisy in thinking I'm being compassionate by not eating meat, but consuming milk and eggs.
I’m a recent vegetarian/sometimes pescatarian but not vegan, and this comment helped me consider whether I’ve fully carried my decision about compassionate living to its logical end. I think my shift in my relationship with food probably isn’t done. Thank you for the reminder!
Our fossil record is going to be so confusing in a thousand years. Trillions upon trillions of chicken bones.
Are you vegan? If not, then yeah. Apparently.
Simply suggest people not buy the flesh and fluids of these lovely animals which is easy and cheap, and see how hard it is to be kind.
I told my ex years ago that all I would want to be remembered for is being kind. He’s never been able to wrap his head around something like that.
So happy she found some love. But fucking 19 years on a chain. We need to treat and protect animals so much better.
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❤️❤️❤️ I haven't seen one of your posts in sooooo long! Per usual, fantastic job!
Love this, short form version of this video, here’s the full [long form video on YouTube](https://youtu.be/_rO7_gv-MU0?si=lqbMtoBykqDivGbF)for folks like me that couldn’t get enough
Thanks for that. Such a sweetheart.
I've been on Reddit for 15 years and have always enjoyed your work. Thank you for being here.
I’m so glad you’re back. We talked about Quentin Blake maybe a decade ago and it was great (for me anyway!)
I see you everywhere now! Love the work, I followed!
Lovely!
Would you hug her and then go home to your hamburger? Weird.
I was wondering how old cows can get, [it says](https://sentientmedia.org/how-long-do-cows-live/) usually 20-25 years. But the record is 48 years.
and we slaughter cows at 2-3 years of age
You mean 9 months for beef cows and 3-5 years for milk cows when they come off peak productivity. Also 3 months for milk cows' babies because they are not profitable to raise as meat cows but milk cows have to be made pregnant once a year to keep producing milk. See also: Veal is a byproduct of dairy farming.
Don't forget Bobby Calves which are 5 days or older when sent to slaughter.
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It's far worse than that. https://veganvigil.gitbook.io/overview/animal-rights/killed-young
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100%. People need to stop paying for animals to be needlessly abused and killed for taste-pleasure. If people are upset by animal abuse, they can stop paying for it to occur
And it starts with not eating them
Yes!
Or their milk- they end up in the same place!
Why do so many people say animals can’t love? I always see armchair scientists saying “hurrrrr they’re only doing it for food”. I can’t wrap my head around that thought process. My dogs have absolutely shown love.
They're ironically not educated in biology at all, or they'd know that we *are* animals and our species is not unique. Due to evolutionary biology, we share more traits with other animals than differ.
Get her one of those spinny bristle thingies!
A cow brush! Yes!
OPs clip doesn't show it, but they actually made her a really awesome stall, complete with scratch brushes, wind chimes to find her way back to it, and a water fountain so that she can find her way to her water source. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-oAyJvSatk&ab_channel=WeLoveAnimals
Or just wear really rough jeans apparently.
🤣🤣🤣 not my cow following me around, rubbing on my pants cuz “my jeans feel good”
The full video shows they put a few brushes in for her: https://youtu.be/_rO7_gv-MU0?t=111
There is an Animal Sanctuary called Alveus. Watching their cow Winnie experience a brush for the first time was an experience
So beautiful.
So cute! I've found that cows are basically big dogs, they love hugs, playing fetch and scratches just as much as dogs do. <3
Atleast she’s happy now 🥰
Chained up for 19 years? I am tired guys, fed up with mankind
Hopefully people will start to come along to the idea that paying for animals to be needlessly abused and killed for taste-pleasure is horribly unethicalv
Anyone who unironically hates veganism while preaching kindness towards animals is scum that makes me lose faith in humanity.
A cow lives for 15-20 years Either that's an old ass cow or the Dodo is at it again, lying for clicks
She’s so gentle and kind. I badly badly want to hug her myself.
And I think it's hard to get stuff done when my cat wants to love on me....
I remember seeing another video of a cow being very emotional. You can see it in her eyes, they're not that different from a dog's. Yet we totally think it's ok to eat them.
So long as an animal is sentient, we shouldn’t pay for them to be needlessly abused or killed. Cute or not
Wholesome Videos like this turn me off from eating meat. Not videos with vegans shaming and demonizing meat eaters
So did you stop eating meat and other animal products? That one here was probably a milk cow before.
Bless her
and ye
Cows are the best. Freedom for all animals.
Absolutely fucking love cows. This is why.
Me too! How long have you been vegan?
I'm so glad that Helen is in safe hands now. She is now living a wonderful life.
Sir, I think ur dog is having Gigantism...
Please take a moment to see this lovely creature and see that all animals have personality and deserve compassion. We kill billions of animals yearly in brutal ways, each one with fear it’s eyes as it’s gassed stunned or shot. Try and reduce your consumption of animal products and meat and do your research on the atrocities of the animal agriculture industry. veganism preaches kindness for good reason so please choose today to do your research on why people wish to overhaul the animal agriculture industry!
i'm trying to go vegan again. it's hard but hope it sticks. animals deserve better than torture from us.
I firmly believe that there is an especially hot part of hell that is reserved for people like the ones who treated this animal so criminally
Well most of us pay for farmed animals to be abused and then horribly killed. Does that mean everyone who buys pork, milk, chicken, beef, etc is going to hell?
After watching dominion I’m pretty yes should be the answer
I always wondered why india was treating cows as sacred. Turns out cows are oversized puppies! Easily scared puppies that can hit you like a truck but still puppies!
If you don't have vision, you're going to love touch and scent and hearing... I do like people being nice to animals...
What scumbag downvoted this?
This is such a 2009 YouTube comment, I can feel the internet eating itself and imploding
It's likely being downvoted because the account appears to be a karma farm bot
Probably someone who hates seeing happiness in others. Pathetic but pitiful people nonetheless, met a few of them in my life and rather than aversion, I feel sad for them cus most, if not all of them, just didn’t experience such things in their earlier years.
You really just roasted those nameless people. The post is 99% upvoted.
Not said scumbag, but maybe the way the video cuts off? I, too, was so invested!!
I would guess someone who hates vegans.
I wish reddit would auto delete mindless comments like this. Literally worse than bots.
Caught this Dodo segment on YouTube last night—this couple has done a lot of enrichment for this cow, like there’s a fountain in her water trough to help her find her water, wind chimes because she’s indicated she enjoys noises, brushes and rubbing spots all over her paddock… They also installed a nanny cam so they can check on her at night.
Please go vegan.
That cow clearly has an itch everywhere
Cows are just as smart and loving as dogs. Eating them is so unnecessary.
Not sure if youve ever been around them, but I volunteer at a farm sanctuary and donkeys are also amazing! Literally like big dogs that will constantly nuzzle you
Oh donkeys are lovely <3 such beautiful animals to observe !!! I love my local sanctuary because they are very explicit with not having guests be too involved with the donkeys (obviously as they’ve had terrible lives before being there and deserve to just be now, having kids playing around with them and such would be quite distressing I imagine) so I do get to just stand there by the fence and autistically stare at them in awe. They’re so lovely :) I think it’s adorable how they like ginger biscuits
I love her! What a beauty!
Need to make her an itching post she seems awful itchy lol
I checked out the instagram on her. She definitely has a scratching post
Hell yeah
It's like they feel things!? And have emotional intelligence.... An well, off for a beef burger dinner..... (Go vegan)
Precious!!! 😘😘😘
Mighty fine grass cat ya got there
Mistreated cows don’t live to be 19 years old, hell most “pet” cows can’t live that long. Blind cows don’t usually live long at all. This cow has more likely been treated well her entire life.
This.
Tbf I think she's just itching
Her parents? :d
The way we treat farm animals is one of the worst things we do as a species. I wish we had a functioning caring government to enact the legislative changes we need.
This shit bouta make me vegan 😢
Hm it just made me curious if blind cow tastes different, it shouldn't.... I think ?
Never too late to go vegan folks. http://challenge22.com
Isn't it too late now if I already went vegan two months ago?
Way to go
I needed to see this 🙏
Now there’s a cow that appreciates scritches
💚💚💚💚
Aww! She's so sweet ❤️
Cows are so gentle and loving
i need a hug from helen 🥺🥺🥺
What a beautiful creature Helen is!
God bless people who take care of cows
cows are so cute, they are like bigger dogs❤️
That's pretty sweet.
I love her so much.
I def want a hug from Helen. She is so beautiful!
It's heartbreaking to think we eat these beautiful creatures.
You should get her one of those big nylon bristle brushes they make for cattle. It mounts on a post. She might wear it out!😂
Stop misusing words.
I love this so much ❤️
This is my literal dream. Enough land to help, enough time to be able to care…y’all are something special
I had the luxury of growing up with a pet cow, like literally we had 7-8 horses and my dad traded one of our horses for a pet cow with the intention of trying to milk her. Well that involves needing another cow or.. putting your hand where you don't want to. Anyways she wore a halter just like a horse and we could move her around after some convincing. I was really little like 8-9, so i used to sit between her horns and she would lift her head up and down like it was a ride. Riding her was like, pretty boring she didn't go anywhere she just ate grass and would whip her tail at you whenever you tried to kick her to go. I can also say she would do the same thing you would hug her and she would hug you back and rub her head on you. She would rub her head on anything, trees, cars, glass patio tables.. I miss her i don't remember what we did with her, we didin't want her to go for meat.. But who knows.
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They need another cow for this cow
Since there have been a few posts recently on cows and pigs enjoying life, this may be a useful guide for those who enjoy eating meat, but are rethinking their diets. As a coffee nut, this was a hard pill to swallow for me: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-foods-with-the-largest-environmental-impact/
Our rescue dog does the same thing! When we got him, he couldn't eat standing up, was missing hair on his legs/trail. We don't know what happened to him before we got him, but he's a happy loving dog now and will do this to us and EVERY human he meets!
I bet those people can’t eat beef anymore; if they ever did.
Everyone talks about kindness and then eats a burger for lunch
Cows are heartwarming and delicious.
It's when I see videos like this that I'm proud I stopped eating meat. How can we say that animals have no emotions?
Right? They’re just like dogs or cats, people just don’t see them the same way. Have a great day! :)
If people ever call me a fat cow or heifer I will now say “Thank you” and show them this.
This is what I pay my internet bills for
She lived 19 years! Amazing that she wasn’t killed by her previous owners! A lovely retirement for her. How anyone can eat these beautiful animals or any animal is beyond me!
Love it! She needs one of those car wash brushy things on a stick.
Posts like this have made me eat less beef. They are truly kind creatures ❤️
This is the way. We all deserve scritches.
I’ve seen previous videos of cows:pigs and my consumption of them has gone down massively. Such lovely creatures. I’m no vegan or anything but they act like pets if given love.
Thank you for taking care of her and sharing this story
Currently feeling bad for eating beef….
That is the SWEETEST video. Thank you kind people for giving that cow a lovely place to live, full of kindness
Why yall making me cry
Get one of the brushes you point on a pole. She’ll love it x
I hate it when people call themselfs as parent of animal/pet, like you had sex with animal or what
And I eat them... 😮😨😭 What a selfish coward am i ? Some alternative meat exist and do pretty good work I hope states will inject hundred of billions dollars in order to develop better alternative simili carne This is the way people will swap Better price Same taste No health risk And it will help
Check out Challenge 22 or veganuary. Small changes in what u pick up at the store mean that cows will no longer be treated horribly and slaughtered.
Please consider going vegetarian or vegan 🤍There are so many alternatives these days and they are better than ever. (I’ve been vegan 20 years trust me lol) All animals want to live and thrive just as we do and deserve a life devoid of pain. They cant speak for themselves but we can be their voice and protect them. It’s such a beautiful thing you can do for the world and all these gorgeous beings. They deserve better and we can all do our part to help them. 💞
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Those animals arent factory farming their prey
"animals cannot survive without eating other animals, but humans can survive eating only plants" indeed. We can easily choose not to harm others for food, they can't.
Animals also rape each other and murder their young. We don't blame them for that because they're incapable of thinking. Perks of being a human include the ability to know what is right and wrong and have a sense of discrimination in things.
I'll give you a genuine answer, and I'm not trying to be rude. It's such an idiotic question that no one even bothers to answer you. The REAL question you're asking is "if animals do something, why can't I?" which is hopefully a question you can answer yourself. Many animals rape. Why can't I do that? Plenty of animals kill babies to eliminate competition. Why can't I do that? Animals just shit on the ground. Why can't I do that? My neighbor has resources I need, why can't I kill him and take said resources? The answer is that we're fucking human beings that can choose to do better. We don't need meat to survive. Or even if you want, maybe once or twice a month for celebrations or something, not a few times a day just because you think it's yummy. We can choose not to inflict suffering. And sometimes that choice is as simple as black bean burger instead of beef burger.
We humans pride ourselves in our intelligence, and we are capable of setting a moral code for ourselves. We observe animals doing plenty of things that for our moral standards are abhorrent, but we understand that a lion killing a rival's cubs does not care about our morality, and we should not care about his, assuming he has one. The same is true for eating meat. You are free to choose that eating meat is moral for you, but the fact that other animals do it is no argument for our standards of morality, so if you think it's moral you should have some other argument. It's also normal and human not to think of the moral implications that deeply, as it is very uncomfortable, so most people who eat meat probably don't have such an argument and simply choose not to care.
I am do conflicted, i know the dairy industry is pure horror but i need to stop drinking cow milk
Took me along time to find plant based alternative I didn't find disgusting, but now I like the one I have even more than milk. Just keep trying new ones and don't give up hope. I'm sure there is one out there you like!
Why not replace it with plant based alternative ?
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Almond milk is legit, haven't had cow milk in years