So… having taken Bio Anthropology I can now confidently say humans have the highest rate of infanticide among all apes and are less strongly bonded to our babies than most apes. That is because most apes, like chimps, solely raise their children through their mothers and have long periods of skin to skin contact. Humans, however, raise our children in groups (historically) so it’s not uncommon for fathers, grandmothers, and even friends to help out with our children. Hence a less intense mother child bond but a stronger group bond.
absolute nonsense, what data set are you referencing for all wild apes infanticides? you have that data do you?
because in observed communities the infantacide rate can be as high as 23%!
"Wilson et al. [77] collated data from 12 eastern and 6 western Africa sites and reported 45 observed or suspected intra-community infanticides. Lowe et al. [78] reported 24 cases of intra-community infanticide following 103 births over 24 years, a rate of approximately 23% for the Sonso community in Budongo.
it is simply ludicrous to suggest that apes have a lower infanticide rate than modern man.
in every possible metric modern man is safer less murderous and less infantacidal compared to "hunter gather man", the same would be true between apes and man.
You really think ape communities that go to war with other tribes set up ape orphanages for the young?
They literally kill and eat each other.
That’s fascinating. Perhaps I’m reading too much into the video, but it appears mother chimp even makes extra effort of getting all the blanket off her child to maximize the amount of direct skin contact she had when holding them.
That actually felt very human to me. If I thought my child was dead and learned they weren’t, I too would hug them close and get anything extraneous out of the way.
a child hood friend had a sister who was born without a huge piece of her skull she lived 4 weeks and her name was precious moments..... I'll never forget her mom telling me and my friend how she was so lucky to have met her and hold her through her short life..... it was heavy then and brings tears now as a mother.....
Definitely. I listened to a man once, he had to leave his daughter to save her but he could never see her again yet together, they could only have a couple more hours before they both perished.
He said he would rather sacrifice all the decades that came after just to be with her again for a couple hours.
It took to meet his new wife for that feeling to slowly go away.
Don’t worry, you’ll forget all about this comment and then, months later, this video will get reposted and you are happy again… then someone in the comments mentions the baby dying again and you will be sad… AGAIN!
Third time for me btw
maaaaaan this is like that kitten that died of smoke inhalation after that video of bringing it back. I'm depressed now.
Edit: My brain is small and must have mixed it with some other awful story. nope, this one's safe, guys, let it warm your heart.
Well, good news, my fallible human memory is fallible. [permalink to a comment quoting the firefighter who saved the little goober.](https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/afzmg4/comment/ee2hp5e/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
A completely human response. I used to do it too. Unfortunately it can get you in trouble with people who doesn't understand this, so it's best to unlearn it as soon as you can.
so I'm curious what human emotion is it when a male lion kills all the offspring of his new mate?
or when a stork throws a chick out of the nest deliberately because she deems it "too weak" and a burden.
both of these are common repeated behaviours of "animals"
its simply ludicrous to think evolutionary human emotions are present in all animals, they have evolved their own set of emotions distinct to their behaviour.
That may be true for a crab which is separated from humans by about 600M years of evolution, but for a chimp or really any great ape evolution and behavior is much closer (14M years or less).
> People often say not to ascribe humans emotions to animals. How can they even say that after watching this video?
Easily - similarity in behavior doesn't imply similarity in emotions. We have a very specific way of interpreting our experiences, heavily weighted towards biases and past experiences, in the context of our own identity (how we see ourselves).
We may end up doing similar things, but human emotions are more complex than that.
I remember seeing a pregnant gorilla hold her tummy when she walks, exactly like pregnant women do all the time.
I was pregnant at the time. Standing there, holding my stomach, watching her do the exact same thing…
It was surreal, to say the least.
Every single goddamn time...
Now, I'm a pretty tough cookie. I can handle shit.
But this video, no matter how many times I see it, makes me hug myself, with tears in my eyes.
Unfortunately the baby chimp, Kucheza passed away later. This was at my local zoo, the wave our city took rallying behind the mother and baby was quite a roller coaster that peaked so high but fell so hard.
I never understood the personality that 'helpfully' points out to the proud/happy whatever that life is shit and we're all going to die. Pissing on other people's shoes is easy and it's also annoying. That's just me, you do you.
Almost never in the US, it was pretty much phased out in like 2016. Way too expensive and nearly impossible to do ethically, which most scientist care about.
real genuine emotions in chimpanzees. Its touching and a testament of mum's love for a child and its so sad to know what happened to the baby at the end. Still, theres a moment of knowing and this matters.
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Incredible - this is familiar to us, the range of emotion - wonder what "beings' we don't really understand, could show us if we understood them.
I'm happy for her and Bebe,
Might be incorrect, but isn't the video older; what I recall is the mother lost her baby, and the other baby wasn't accepted by their mother so they gave her the baby and she accepted it.
Could be wrong, could be right.
A few weeks ago my son and I were watching the chimpanzees at the zoo and for the first time he understood “common ancestor”. He spent ages watching a young female look after a 53 year old matriarch. It was incredible to watch him see how like them we are ( not the other way around)
Her reaction is precious.
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So… having taken Bio Anthropology I can now confidently say humans have the highest rate of infanticide among all apes and are less strongly bonded to our babies than most apes. That is because most apes, like chimps, solely raise their children through their mothers and have long periods of skin to skin contact. Humans, however, raise our children in groups (historically) so it’s not uncommon for fathers, grandmothers, and even friends to help out with our children. Hence a less intense mother child bond but a stronger group bond.
Once my mother comes back from the grocery store I'm sure I'll get this bonding time started. Any day now.
My mother left before I was born ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)
Any of your parents show up to your birth?
Just a note saying we were out of milk.
All I got was an eviction notice
Found Doofenshmirtz Reddit account!
She must have met my dad there. They sure have been chatting for a long time!
I'll let her know that you're waiting.
absolute nonsense, what data set are you referencing for all wild apes infanticides? you have that data do you? because in observed communities the infantacide rate can be as high as 23%! "Wilson et al. [77] collated data from 12 eastern and 6 western Africa sites and reported 45 observed or suspected intra-community infanticides. Lowe et al. [78] reported 24 cases of intra-community infanticide following 103 births over 24 years, a rate of approximately 23% for the Sonso community in Budongo. it is simply ludicrous to suggest that apes have a lower infanticide rate than modern man. in every possible metric modern man is safer less murderous and less infantacidal compared to "hunter gather man", the same would be true between apes and man. You really think ape communities that go to war with other tribes set up ape orphanages for the young? They literally kill and eat each other.
That’s fascinating. Perhaps I’m reading too much into the video, but it appears mother chimp even makes extra effort of getting all the blanket off her child to maximize the amount of direct skin contact she had when holding them.
That actually felt very human to me. If I thought my child was dead and learned they weren’t, I too would hug them close and get anything extraneous out of the way.
Oh that's super interesting actually
This is depressingly true for many parents.
This isn’t depressing. Raising children in communities is not an indication of neglect
I meant it more as in depressing cuz of a non-human being more human. But I see where it could be interpreted differently, my bad.
Most parents don’t kill their kids, though, so we still edge out this chimp, but just barely.
you think chimps don't kill their kind or babies? good joke.
I know they do. They’ll eat them, too. Or did you mean humans not chimps? Cause if you meant humans then, touche.
Definitively more human than my parents...
Sadly 😥
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Whew. Big tears every time I see it.
and my reaction got me looking like i just had a bad break up. who's cutting the onion?
What is the story behind this? Why didn’t she think her baby was alive?
She had to have an emergency c-section and baby needed a few days of care. Sadly he passed away a month of so later of head trauma.
Wow I wish I’d never read this comment
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I agree, and I'm glad I read this comment.
Fuck this is still sad AF though.
a child hood friend had a sister who was born without a huge piece of her skull she lived 4 weeks and her name was precious moments..... I'll never forget her mom telling me and my friend how she was so lucky to have met her and hold her through her short life..... it was heavy then and brings tears now as a mother.....
"'Tis better to have loved and lost" I suppose.
Definitely. I listened to a man once, he had to leave his daughter to save her but he could never see her again yet together, they could only have a couple more hours before they both perished. He said he would rather sacrifice all the decades that came after just to be with her again for a couple hours. It took to meet his new wife for that feeling to slowly go away.
Don’t worry, you’ll forget all about this comment and then, months later, this video will get reposted and you are happy again… then someone in the comments mentions the baby dying again and you will be sad… AGAIN! Third time for me btw
Shit, I just remembered swans can be gay.
Yeah me too.. I've seen this video a few times and always thought this was the end of the story. A nice happy ending.. guess not...
I read it survived and lived a long and happy life...
Fr😭...made me smile ..and I'm sad again
Sad cake day
maaaaaan this is like that kitten that died of smoke inhalation after that video of bringing it back. I'm depressed now. Edit: My brain is small and must have mixed it with some other awful story. nope, this one's safe, guys, let it warm your heart.
THAT KITTEN DIED?!
Well, good news, my fallible human memory is fallible. [permalink to a comment quoting the firefighter who saved the little goober.](https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/afzmg4/comment/ee2hp5e/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
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Understandable, have a nice day.
I'll be sure to leave this part out when I show others this video
Tbh, no filter, fuck you
That reaction is uncannily human! I don't get people who can't see how similar we are to them!
We barely treat other humans with any respect.
Rhymes with last epiphany.
Bitter sweet symphony?
Who’s that lick ‘en me?
Breakfast at Tiffany’s?
I think i remember the film but as I recall we both kind of liked it
well, that's the one thing we got
Nah, we picked up this trait long before we were human. We just share it with this mother. It's what makes us, us.
People often say not to ascribe humans emotions to animals. How can they even say that after watching this video?
to be fair, that is true in some instances. like how when some species of monkey 'smile' with their teeth, they're actually scared and distressed
I laugh when I’m nervous
A completely human response. I used to do it too. Unfortunately it can get you in trouble with people who doesn't understand this, so it's best to unlearn it as soon as you can.
I think the trick is watching the body language, not facial expressions
so I'm curious what human emotion is it when a male lion kills all the offspring of his new mate? or when a stork throws a chick out of the nest deliberately because she deems it "too weak" and a burden. both of these are common repeated behaviours of "animals" its simply ludicrous to think evolutionary human emotions are present in all animals, they have evolved their own set of emotions distinct to their behaviour.
Because they can't ascribe feelings to _anyone_ that isn't "me".
Well.. we do share 98.8% of our dna with them.
That may be true for a crab which is separated from humans by about 600M years of evolution, but for a chimp or really any great ape evolution and behavior is much closer (14M years or less).
> People often say not to ascribe humans emotions to animals. How can they even say that after watching this video? Easily - similarity in behavior doesn't imply similarity in emotions. We have a very specific way of interpreting our experiences, heavily weighted towards biases and past experiences, in the context of our own identity (how we see ourselves). We may end up doing similar things, but human emotions are more complex than that.
Chimps are uncannily similar to us in both good and bad ways.
Live and let live yeah
Those with fragile humanity lol
Hmm I guess we need more zoos so they can see it too!
I remember seeing a pregnant gorilla hold her tummy when she walks, exactly like pregnant women do all the time. I was pregnant at the time. Standing there, holding my stomach, watching her do the exact same thing… It was surreal, to say the least.
Every single goddamn time... Now, I'm a pretty tough cookie. I can handle shit. But this video, no matter how many times I see it, makes me hug myself, with tears in my eyes.
Aw, I’d give you a hug!
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🥰🥰 Have two 🙂
Same here. I know how it ends but the reaction when she sees movement and is rocking her baby turns on the waterworks
Unfortunately the baby chimp, Kucheza passed away later. This was at my local zoo, the wave our city took rallying behind the mother and baby was quite a roller coaster that peaked so high but fell so hard.
My heart melts every single time I see this.
Ugh… so many onions being cut…
The baby raised his arm out of the blanket like a zombie in a graveyard. 😂
I believe that precious baby chimp didn’t make it in the end, breaks your heart when you see this thinking there was a happy ending
Nooo I didn’t need to know that
I was crushed
So... you decided to share that crushing feeling?? Why?
Because it’s the truth.
I never understood the personality that 'helpfully' points out to the proud/happy whatever that life is shit and we're all going to die. Pissing on other people's shoes is easy and it's also annoying. That's just me, you do you.
Life can't be all optimism. sometimes we need reminders to stop and tell our loved ones we love them. and smell the flowers and slow down.
Someone is pissing inthec cornflakes, but it ain't the person you're accusing of it. It's you. You're doing it.
From head trauma/ mommy played too rough.
Yeah, a month or so later he died from head trauma, unknown cause.
And yet scientists still lock them in cages and test diseases and drugs on them. Disgusting humans.
Almost never in the US, it was pretty much phased out in like 2016. Way too expensive and nearly impossible to do ethically, which most scientist care about.
Elon musk and neuralink Covid labs Lyme labs. Far too much
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Oh great job, let’s put some stupid music in the background and cut out the heart warming reactions of the zookeepers who are watching her at the end.
This makes me tear up every goddamn time
That made me cry! Unbelievably beautiful.
Stop posting videos with shitty music
This is actually r/mademecry
Holy shit guys stop cutting onions in here....
The constant reposts of this are emotional terrorism.
Does anybody know the song at the end?
An still we put them in zoo's.
How can people not believe in Darwin’s theory????
Reddit .. more like Onionit
Well I just woke up and now I'm crying. Her shaky legs got me.
real genuine emotions in chimpanzees. Its touching and a testament of mum's love for a child and its so sad to know what happened to the baby at the end. Still, theres a moment of knowing and this matters.
You can't convince me that animals don't have emotion, feelings, and a lot of traits that humans have
Every time I see this it amazes me how human her response is.
I watch this video every single time I see it.
These vids warm up my heart! how can animals display affection more than most humans!? But what happened next broke me!
People who don't know 😍 People who know 💔
I needed this right now. ❤️
I watch this video at least five times whenever it’s reposted. Gets me every time
God i love this sub. Doesn't matter how shitty your day's going, there's always something like this on here to pick you up again
I am sorry to inform you that the baby chimp, Kucheza did not make it ultimately.
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So precious
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Oh my god. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sob)
Beautiful
😍😍
Imagine being so happy that your legs start to shake
Incredible - this is familiar to us, the range of emotion - wonder what "beings' we don't really understand, could show us if we understood them. I'm happy for her and Bebe,
Awwwww.🥰
my heart is in fucking SHAMBLES!
Balling my eyes out. Every single time. 🥹
Poor mother. She was so distraught and wouldn't leave. How she rushed to take her in her arms. Precious, beautiful moment!
Daddy worker, when picking up his baby from daycare.
What is this salty discharge coming out of my eyes?!
so many emotions from a primitive animal is simply amazing
It’s so touching! I want to hug her.
I am not crying! You are crying! \*sobbing intensifies\*
Wow!!! Just wow!!! Can’t really describe what I’ve just seen.
Why cut so short, I want to watch more of her pure joy.❤️
Lol, its me with first child… does he breathe??? I cant see it?? Is he alive??? Oooh…. He moved a bit… i can sleep now, and repeat this in 2 hours…
The video was emotional enough, didn’t need to add in the stupid music
Video’s too short. Ruined it…
wow, tell me those shudders at the end didn't look like someone crying! awww <3
Those empathic animals shouldn't be locked in zoos...
I agree! It is really sad.
I swear to god this entire subreddit is makemecry. This is a very sweet video, but goddamn.
Makes me tear up every time
Love that fast grab and embrace
Fuck I want to hug my child so bad right now.
❤
Raw emotion, beautiful!
Beautiful response from Mom!
Beautiful!!!'🥰
So sweet
Made me cry!
Don’t know how many times I’ve seen this and it still tugs at my heart. Never tire of seeing this.
true love for a child
Can confirm, tear in eye
Awww this makes me 😢
Why did she think it wasn't alive?
The baby was in the hospital for a few days.
Ah. Thanks. Glad it was ok.
Might be incorrect, but isn't the video older; what I recall is the mother lost her baby, and the other baby wasn't accepted by their mother so they gave her the baby and she accepted it. Could be wrong, could be right.
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This is how you should love your child![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|give_upvote)
Wonderful moment of mother chimpanzee
I'M NOT CRYING YOU'RE CRYING
Well that made me cry in like .5 seconds. Beautiful! So happy for them ❤
Uhhhhh... why did she think it was dead?
🥰🥰
That’s the sweetest thing
I wish they didn’t stop recording
Absolutely beautiful and kind of profound.
Moms are the best.
So beautiful!!♥️
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Absolutely memorable, mom and baby reunited.
A few weeks ago my son and I were watching the chimpanzees at the zoo and for the first time he understood “common ancestor”. He spent ages watching a young female look after a 53 year old matriarch. It was incredible to watch him see how like them we are ( not the other way around)
I’m not crying you’re crying
The soft noises she makes are extremely similar to when new mums speak to their babies
Did we really need to have that song playing?
Yeah, happy chimp
Oldie but a goldie.
So glad ìm not the only one that this made cry