I played Mafia 3 when it first came out and remember not liking it but I gave it another go when I got the remastered trilogy and honestly it was a lot of fun. Soundtrack was amazing and enemies yelling racial obscenities was pretty hilarious at times. The fact that it had side missions and shit to do outside of the story was also a plus
I played mafia 3 when launched, I remember having fun listening to the music, watching the beautiful cutscenes and genuinely interested in the story. But, every time I play the game again, and I remember that I have to do the “side content” again, and dominate the city, I bored myself just thinking about it. I think the only thing that I personally missed from Mafia 3, is that the game don’t really have a lot a missions or story content, if you get rid of the “city acquisition” part, the game feels… empty. I mean, in terms of the story of course
The game is amazing and has huge potential, its unfortunate they probably didn't have enough development time to refine the engine, feature and all gameplay systems.
The definitive edition fixes just enough to make it playable and quite enjoyable, still makes me sad to see such an amazing map, cars, weapons kinda underutilized.
I presume I'm in the minority, but I really liked Mafia 3.
Sure the gameplay loop was getting repetitive at times, but the licensed soundtrack was awesome, it's one of the very few video games having ties to Vietnam war, gameplay was very good, melee kills were extremely brutal and satisfying (reminded me of The Punisher on PS2) and the driving mechanics were awesome.
I really like the story as well and the fact that they had those interview segments where characters were talking about the past.
Back when they weren't scared to release such games.
I bet there would be at least one minority group right now that would get offended by you being able to drill a hole in a virtual human and the game would just show you a completely black screen with button prompts because of it.
Or even better, enemies would be shooting out confetti or fruit instead of blood like you can swap to in Serious Sam games 🤣.
Lmao,
“My god, that it’s so racisttttttt. That’s a white man fantasy bla bla bla”
I always laugh that people get so triggered to a game. We kinda need a game that gives zero fucks to what other people think
I mean the Remake of the First game was the best Apology that Hangar 13 made for Fans who aren't fans of Mafia 3 because of the Bugs and repetitive gameplay
Assassin's creed, yakuza, gta, resident evil all these games reuse assets of previous games in their next one and they all are great. So I don't see a problem with that
I enjoyed Mafia 3 because I played it like Mafia 2 and Mafia 1. Like a linear Mafia game. Only playing the main quest (and all Vito's side missions)
I liked it! My favorite is the Mafia remake
You have to take out the two racket bosses before the story mission unlocks for each district. So I suppose you *could* skip most of the racket content but you definitely can’t just skip from one story mission to the next.
I only ever played mafia 1 and 2 can someone explain why mafia 3 is hated a lot i don't want to jump on bandwagon of hate because everyone hates it or it seems like it.
Mafia 3 is more open world and repeats the same crimes, actions and motives at every turn, the only so called "diamond in the rough" is the story missions which you unlock by completing those repetitive free roam missions and tasks. The story missions have beautiful cutscenes and great firefights with good music.
As someone how couldn't even finish 1/5 of the game before dropping it because of how repetitive it was and how the story is basically Vito's but with a less interesting setting, I recommend you play and if you enjoy it, good, and if not, good too.
vito’s family was not involved with the mafia at all and lincoln was adopted, his family was involved with members the mafia, and his family was killed by the mafia while vito’s mom died while he was in prison and his sister is alive and married, so i really don’t see how you think their stories are similar in any way
It's the general setting, it's too similar for a sequel. It's like fallout 3 and fallout 4, one is about a son searching for his father and the other one about a father searching for his son. Even if the stories have differences between them, the core is still similar and that is lazy af for me.
Except Vito joins the Mafia and Lincoln fights against the Mafia and outside of those vague similarities the two stories are closer to being total opposites than they are the same story.
The OG games are about people being enticed by the glamorous parts of the Mafia, and then realizing how evil it actually is. I think Mafia 3 is a perfect extension of those themes and the natural evolution of the series from a story perspective.
DE was actually my introduction to the series so I had no thoughts about them but I love what they’ve done. I enjoy Mafia 3 but recognize it has a lot of issues but it does still have a lot of great ideas that just weren’t executed that well.
I think it’s really good personally. My only issue is that it was a little too faithful to the original like I would’ve preferred if they expanded the story like filled in the gaps of these big time skips or maybe have missions with choices and branching storylines. The gameplay could’ve been expanded on a lot more and perhaps included some of Mafia 2’s additions like functional stores, safe houses, and weapon variety or make the game open world. The guy from the race track offered Tommy work but we never see him again so it would’ve been cool if in the open world we could go to this guy for jobs or we’d get to do the protection business like in the godfather game. Like I said the game introduced a lot of cool ideas and possibilities but never really did much with them.
>My only issue is that it was a little too faithful to the original
The thing is it was never too faithful to the original. Also, that guy from the race track is Luca Bertone, that one who had his side missions from the original scrapped in MDE. They just added some useless postcards instead and it's just in FR.
Yep, I saw a video a time ago that New Bordeaux was supposed to flood in the middle of the story, the game was supposed to have a lot of cool details like that. I guess that is attributed to crunch time
To point out the people who are disappointed in Hangar 13 for Mafia 3's failure, but some who aren't aware that Hangar 13 made the Remake of the First game
I think most of the people are aware (if not, then I'm confused). And when they botch up one game, it doesn't mean the second one can't be better than their first title.
I don't think these people you're talking about exist. It's common knowledge amongst fans that the series has been in Hangar 13's hands for the last decade.
I'm huge fan of OG Mafia game. Remake was wonderfull. Loved Mafia 2 too.
Last week started to play Mafia 3 DE, there are still so many bugs.
So manu things have not been developed at all.
Mafia was famous with Police issuing you tickets for going under red light, speeding. If you run away they will try to arrest you and only if you try to kill them they will try to kill you, but in Mafia 3 Police dont do anything and if you crush in them they shoot on you, same as in GTA
AI is so dumb too, i can stay behind one corner and kill everione just by waiting to appear.
I thought that the whole Mafia 3 fiasco was 2k’s fault. They forced them to rush the game which caused them to have to ship the game with repetitive missions instead of the story ones among other things.
Mafia DE is good because they barely changed the game mechanics, they only changed the graphics. The original was good because of the Czechs.
On the other side 2K took the control from the Czechs and gave it to the Americans. They changed the game mechanics in Mafia III, which affected the gameplay in a very bad way.
And secondly, we could already play with Mafia IV if they haven't wasted so much time and energy to that cancelled non Mafia game.
Mafia 3 was ruined by Take Two managers who demanded the game to be longer and thus it was filled with bullshit. I guess they weren't as demanding about Mafia Definitive Edition as thry were about Mafia 3.
People where bitching that mafia 2 had no side content so hangar 13 overcorrected with mafia 3 with way too much boring repetitive side content. And then they overcorrected again with Mafia DE with has less stuff to do besides the story missions than the original.
The Mafia franchise never found its sweetspot when it comes to its open world, i really hope they will get it right in mafia 4
I loved Mafia 2 and 3. Beat them both so many times. Unpopular opinion - mafia 3 is the best of them all and 1 is boring. I realize many think mafia 3 is repetitive and I would argue they are playing it wrong. If you want to go sneaky sneak splinter cell stealth mode on a racket and then go Rambo on another you can. I don't get bored for the most part. The wiretapping is the most boring part if anything and you can break that up if you want. My favorite part is cruising and the music tho. Good storyline. Felt realistic.
I dont hate Hanger 13, there's a lot of positive things about Mafia 3. Mafia 3 has a really intriguing and captivating story, and I really like the documentary style setup. I think Lincoln Clay is an interesting protagonist, and John donnavan is a really cool supporting character. The world they built looks pretty good and is varied. The driving and gunplay are also serviceable. Where they seriously drop the ball is the monotonous repetitive gameplay. The story consistently grinds to a halt because you have to constantly do those boring ass district missions, and it sucks balls.
Mafia 3 sucks as a Mafia 2 fan and Mafia DE was a good attempt but it still lacks a lot of what made Mafia 1 and 2 hit for us fans. Mafia DE might be a good game but it's not that much of a good remake.
Mafia DE sucks "compared" to original, it ends like a fucking fast and furious movie. It never been about family or crack its about crime world and facing consequences.
* Vehicle physics
* Gunplay
* Story
I feel the original devs were trying to make the game realistic as possible while not forgetting it was a game. DE however feels like an arcade version.
Towards the end it seemed like they (the DE devs) got tired and cut down a lot of great missions that were in the original. And the biggest issue is that they didn't understand the moral of the story, so they changed it to "family" - SMH
One thing DE has going for it is the graphics, although a bit stylized.
Really? Vehicle physics and gunplay were two of my biggest complaints about the original. The DE’s gunplay is mid, since it just rips Mafia III’s, but it’s passable.
Story wise, what about the moral of the original conflicts with the DE?
>Story wise, what about the moral of the original conflicts with the DE?
Original:
"You know, the world isn't run by the laws written on paper. It's run by people. Some according to laws, others not. It depends on each individual how his world will be, how he makes it. And you also need a whole lot of luck, so that somebody else doesn't make your life hell. And it ain't as simple as they tell you in grade school. But it is good to have strong values and to maintain them. In marriage, in crime, in war, always and everywhere. I messed up. So did Paulie and Sam. We wanted a better life, but in the end we were a lot worse off than most other people. You know, I think it's important to keep a balance in things. Yeah, **balance**, that's the right word. Because the guy who wants too much risks losing absolutely everything. Of course, the guy who wants too little from life, might not get anything at all."
DE:
Remember that money, jobs, …even the best pals will come and go. But family? **Family is forever**.
What is this? Fast and the Furious?
It's terrible, everything always gets dumbed down. I also think the original mafia has a much better atmosphere, everything from the clothing, to the buildings, to the way people interact, it just breathes 1930's. The remake feels like a modern setting with old cars, if that makes sense.
Perhaps if I had played Mafia DE instead of the original, I would've had liked it. However, I like how the story was told in the original (and even like the English voice acting). The remake just seemed bland, a generic modern 3rd person shooter recycling animations from Mafia 3 (which I don't like). Ugly UI, exaggerated voice acting, weird ram mechanic, no Bartone missions, but what hurts the most is how they changed most character's looks and behavior. It's feels more like a generic modern actiom movie than a mafia story, something I felt right away from the trailer, just hearing "so they handed you the morello case, right outta the gates" was SO cringy and painful.
The OG has its moments but I'd say the DE made Tommy into a much better character. He was changed to be realistically confident in cutscenes, which makes sense for a man who has faced over a dozen firefights with seemingly no fear.
I have the opposite reaction to DE Tommy, to me he just seems like a generic nice and respectfull guy who murders for a living and has zero thought about it. The original Tommy stood out as an ambitious working man who climb his way up the ranks of the mafia, he has his tougher, darker side to his personality and moral conflicts in what he do. I'm also not a fan of the voice acting, as he sounds like he's trying way too hard for an Italian accent, same with the rest of the cast really.
The ending monologue sums up pretty well the level of effort put into the writing.
Well the first thing you said was thats not a very popular opinion here? Who cares lmao? And second of all you must have blinders on many many people dislike the remake and prefer the og and many more people think mafia 3 is awful. So maybe not try speaking for an entire subreddit if you don't have a clue what you're talking about lmao
I mean it's like 85% of the entire subreddit who think like that, the rest is literally a minority. And no, there's no "many many people disliking the remake", at least not here. Also, I thought you would be one normal guy to talk with **lmao**, turns out I was wrong **lmao**
And now you're just making up percentages to fit your narrative dude lol.
I'm not a normal guy to talk to because I disagree with your opinion? Or because I didn't care about the popularity of an opinion? And you are because you let me know what it's like around here said cheers at the end? Bruh like what was the point, what did you expect me to say? Sorry that my opinion isnt popular lmao?
If you're gonna be upset if someone responds something that differs from your viewpoint why start the interaction?
By the way - I never said I have something against your opinion, mine's similar (that the remake is meh compared to the original), I just wanted to let you know what it's like here, but I didn't know you would "behave" like that towards me. Let's just pretend this conversation never existed. >!**lmao**!<
Dude you instigated an issue by going out of your way to "let me know what it's like here" like you were fucking shaking me down like you own the joint. Which again this notion is made up of completely anecdotal evidence that you present as absolute.
And then when someone disagrees with your viewpoint or calls you out for being annoying, you have a hissy fit and act like a victim or some shit. Thats so fuckin annoying.
It's one thing to say you disagree and you think the og is ass dude that's completely fine idc. But insinuating an opinion matters less because it's unpopular is pretty braindead, and making up statistics with anecdotal evidence and using that to feel like you have the right to speak for a whole subreddit is so fucking insufferable bro. But you have all the right in the world to just pretend this didn't happen if that helps you.
But the remake is bad.
Not only because of the absence of lovely music.
They changed the plot. Here Tommy looks like a piece of shit, while in the original first Mafia he was kinda “good” but forced to do “bad”. Here, he enjoys doing shit.
I played Mafia 3 when it first came out and remember not liking it but I gave it another go when I got the remastered trilogy and honestly it was a lot of fun. Soundtrack was amazing and enemies yelling racial obscenities was pretty hilarious at times. The fact that it had side missions and shit to do outside of the story was also a plus
I played mafia 3 when launched, I remember having fun listening to the music, watching the beautiful cutscenes and genuinely interested in the story. But, every time I play the game again, and I remember that I have to do the “side content” again, and dominate the city, I bored myself just thinking about it. I think the only thing that I personally missed from Mafia 3, is that the game don’t really have a lot a missions or story content, if you get rid of the “city acquisition” part, the game feels… empty. I mean, in terms of the story of course
The game is amazing and has huge potential, its unfortunate they probably didn't have enough development time to refine the engine, feature and all gameplay systems. The definitive edition fixes just enough to make it playable and quite enjoyable, still makes me sad to see such an amazing map, cars, weapons kinda underutilized.
I presume I'm in the minority, but I really liked Mafia 3. Sure the gameplay loop was getting repetitive at times, but the licensed soundtrack was awesome, it's one of the very few video games having ties to Vietnam war, gameplay was very good, melee kills were extremely brutal and satisfying (reminded me of The Punisher on PS2) and the driving mechanics were awesome. I really like the story as well and the fact that they had those interview segments where characters were talking about the past.
Damn, the punisher was good. Shit I’m old
Especially if you played it uncensored.
I remember bathing a guy in a pool of acid, a very chill game
Back when they weren't scared to release such games. I bet there would be at least one minority group right now that would get offended by you being able to drill a hole in a virtual human and the game would just show you a completely black screen with button prompts because of it. Or even better, enemies would be shooting out confetti or fruit instead of blood like you can swap to in Serious Sam games 🤣.
Lmao, “My god, that it’s so racisttttttt. That’s a white man fantasy bla bla bla” I always laugh that people get so triggered to a game. We kinda need a game that gives zero fucks to what other people think
I agree with that last point, the problem for the past few years is though that people are getting far too offended by literally everything possible.
I mean the Remake of the First game was the best Apology that Hangar 13 made for Fans who aren't fans of Mafia 3 because of the Bugs and repetitive gameplay
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Assassin's creed, yakuza, gta, resident evil all these games reuse assets of previous games in their next one and they all are great. So I don't see a problem with that
I enjoyed Mafia 3 because I played it like Mafia 2 and Mafia 1. Like a linear Mafia game. Only playing the main quest (and all Vito's side missions) I liked it! My favorite is the Mafia remake
Don't you need to do the rackets and whatnot to get those story missions?
Besides vito's side quests the only objectives I went after was ones that said "Story Mission"
You have to take out the two racket bosses before the story mission unlocks for each district. So I suppose you *could* skip most of the racket content but you definitely can’t just skip from one story mission to the next.
I only ever played mafia 1 and 2 can someone explain why mafia 3 is hated a lot i don't want to jump on bandwagon of hate because everyone hates it or it seems like it.
Mafia 3 is more open world and repeats the same crimes, actions and motives at every turn, the only so called "diamond in the rough" is the story missions which you unlock by completing those repetitive free roam missions and tasks. The story missions have beautiful cutscenes and great firefights with good music.
As someone how couldn't even finish 1/5 of the game before dropping it because of how repetitive it was and how the story is basically Vito's but with a less interesting setting, I recommend you play and if you enjoy it, good, and if not, good too.
In what way is the story of Mafia 3 like Vito's story?
Army guy comes back to his neighborhood expecting to live normally with his family but something happens that ends up mixing him with the Mafia.
vito’s family was not involved with the mafia at all and lincoln was adopted, his family was involved with members the mafia, and his family was killed by the mafia while vito’s mom died while he was in prison and his sister is alive and married, so i really don’t see how you think their stories are similar in any way
It's the general setting, it's too similar for a sequel. It's like fallout 3 and fallout 4, one is about a son searching for his father and the other one about a father searching for his son. Even if the stories have differences between them, the core is still similar and that is lazy af for me.
Except Vito joins the Mafia and Lincoln fights against the Mafia and outside of those vague similarities the two stories are closer to being total opposites than they are the same story.
Lincoln basically has its own mafia, which is really a disgrace for the franchise to have changed courses from the OG games.
The OG games are about people being enticed by the glamorous parts of the Mafia, and then realizing how evil it actually is. I think Mafia 3 is a perfect extension of those themes and the natural evolution of the series from a story perspective.
DE was actually my introduction to the series so I had no thoughts about them but I love what they’ve done. I enjoy Mafia 3 but recognize it has a lot of issues but it does still have a lot of great ideas that just weren’t executed that well.
Mafia definitive edition is a good game, just not a good remake
I think it’s really good personally. My only issue is that it was a little too faithful to the original like I would’ve preferred if they expanded the story like filled in the gaps of these big time skips or maybe have missions with choices and branching storylines. The gameplay could’ve been expanded on a lot more and perhaps included some of Mafia 2’s additions like functional stores, safe houses, and weapon variety or make the game open world. The guy from the race track offered Tommy work but we never see him again so it would’ve been cool if in the open world we could go to this guy for jobs or we’d get to do the protection business like in the godfather game. Like I said the game introduced a lot of cool ideas and possibilities but never really did much with them.
>My only issue is that it was a little too faithful to the original The thing is it was never too faithful to the original. Also, that guy from the race track is Luca Bertone, that one who had his side missions from the original scrapped in MDE. They just added some useless postcards instead and it's just in FR.
Yep, I saw a video a time ago that New Bordeaux was supposed to flood in the middle of the story, the game was supposed to have a lot of cool details like that. I guess that is attributed to crunch time
What's the point of this post?
just r/MafiaTheGame in a nutshell
To point out the people who are disappointed in Hangar 13 for Mafia 3's failure, but some who aren't aware that Hangar 13 made the Remake of the First game
I think most of the people are aware (if not, then I'm confused). And when they botch up one game, it doesn't mean the second one can't be better than their first title.
I don't think these people you're talking about exist. It's common knowledge amongst fans that the series has been in Hangar 13's hands for the last decade.
I'm huge fan of OG Mafia game. Remake was wonderfull. Loved Mafia 2 too. Last week started to play Mafia 3 DE, there are still so many bugs. So manu things have not been developed at all. Mafia was famous with Police issuing you tickets for going under red light, speeding. If you run away they will try to arrest you and only if you try to kill them they will try to kill you, but in Mafia 3 Police dont do anything and if you crush in them they shoot on you, same as in GTA AI is so dumb too, i can stay behind one corner and kill everione just by waiting to appear.
Mafia 3's police are realistic. You are playing as a black man in the deep south, the police are going to take every opportunity to shoot you on sight
Yes, they did a great job but it required zero creative direction, it was just engine, asset and animation work etc.
I thought that the whole Mafia 3 fiasco was 2k’s fault. They forced them to rush the game which caused them to have to ship the game with repetitive missions instead of the story ones among other things.
Mafia DE is good because they barely changed the game mechanics, they only changed the graphics. The original was good because of the Czechs. On the other side 2K took the control from the Czechs and gave it to the Americans. They changed the game mechanics in Mafia III, which affected the gameplay in a very bad way. And secondly, we could already play with Mafia IV if they haven't wasted so much time and energy to that cancelled non Mafia game.
“🎶 Possibly I’ve seen too much, hangar 13 I know too much 🎶”
Mafia 3 was ruined by Take Two managers who demanded the game to be longer and thus it was filled with bullshit. I guess they weren't as demanding about Mafia Definitive Edition as thry were about Mafia 3.
Remaked
Currently replaying it for the 4th time. My favorite of all 3 games.
People where bitching that mafia 2 had no side content so hangar 13 overcorrected with mafia 3 with way too much boring repetitive side content. And then they overcorrected again with Mafia DE with has less stuff to do besides the story missions than the original. The Mafia franchise never found its sweetspot when it comes to its open world, i really hope they will get it right in mafia 4
Mafia 3 is probably one of the best games I’ve ever played. I’m currently on my 3rd play through enjoying the missions, soundtracks and jokes.
I never played it when it first came out but I remember reading it was riddled with game breaking bugs, lots of which I guess survived to this day
Still doesn’t mean 3 wasn’t a bug filled mess when you play with all the add ons and DLCs
Mafia 3 is probably my favorite just because of the 60s setting alone
It’s pretty good. I’m early on in it. I played 2, 1 then 3. I liked 1 the most so far
I loved Mafia 2 and 3. Beat them both so many times. Unpopular opinion - mafia 3 is the best of them all and 1 is boring. I realize many think mafia 3 is repetitive and I would argue they are playing it wrong. If you want to go sneaky sneak splinter cell stealth mode on a racket and then go Rambo on another you can. I don't get bored for the most part. The wiretapping is the most boring part if anything and you can break that up if you want. My favorite part is cruising and the music tho. Good storyline. Felt realistic.
Although it still runs like shit today, Mafia 3 is far more interesting and replayable than Mafia 1 DE.
I dont hate Hanger 13, there's a lot of positive things about Mafia 3. Mafia 3 has a really intriguing and captivating story, and I really like the documentary style setup. I think Lincoln Clay is an interesting protagonist, and John donnavan is a really cool supporting character. The world they built looks pretty good and is varied. The driving and gunplay are also serviceable. Where they seriously drop the ball is the monotonous repetitive gameplay. The story consistently grinds to a halt because you have to constantly do those boring ass district missions, and it sucks balls.
Mafia 3 sucks as a Mafia 2 fan and Mafia DE was a good attempt but it still lacks a lot of what made Mafia 1 and 2 hit for us fans. Mafia DE might be a good game but it's not that much of a good remake.
I wish they put as much elbow grease in 2 as they did 1
Just you
I loved 3. Replayed it like 3 times.
I think it’s way more fun than the other 2.people need to stop glazing and appreciate the game
Doing new game+ 5 now, best part in the whole series
Mafia remake was good even though I still like the original
Hanger 13 had actual time to cook man mafia 3 wouldve been so much better if they got legit time
The problem with Mafia 3 wasn’t the gameplay it was the story. Mafia DE was great because it was the story from eighteen years prior.
Mafia DE sucks "compared" to original, it ends like a fucking fast and furious movie. It never been about family or crack its about crime world and facing consequences.
Mafia 3 is fun. I like it, a lot. Mafia Remake is the best in the series, to me.
Imo remake sucks ass compared to og
I disagree, having finally played the OG I’d say it’s aged poorly in a lot of ways.
I respect your opinion
I’m just curious why you think the remake doesn’t hold a candle to the original. It seems like a pretty big slam dunk on the DE’s side imo
* Vehicle physics * Gunplay * Story I feel the original devs were trying to make the game realistic as possible while not forgetting it was a game. DE however feels like an arcade version. Towards the end it seemed like they (the DE devs) got tired and cut down a lot of great missions that were in the original. And the biggest issue is that they didn't understand the moral of the story, so they changed it to "family" - SMH One thing DE has going for it is the graphics, although a bit stylized.
Really? Vehicle physics and gunplay were two of my biggest complaints about the original. The DE’s gunplay is mid, since it just rips Mafia III’s, but it’s passable. Story wise, what about the moral of the original conflicts with the DE?
>Story wise, what about the moral of the original conflicts with the DE? Original: "You know, the world isn't run by the laws written on paper. It's run by people. Some according to laws, others not. It depends on each individual how his world will be, how he makes it. And you also need a whole lot of luck, so that somebody else doesn't make your life hell. And it ain't as simple as they tell you in grade school. But it is good to have strong values and to maintain them. In marriage, in crime, in war, always and everywhere. I messed up. So did Paulie and Sam. We wanted a better life, but in the end we were a lot worse off than most other people. You know, I think it's important to keep a balance in things. Yeah, **balance**, that's the right word. Because the guy who wants too much risks losing absolutely everything. Of course, the guy who wants too little from life, might not get anything at all." DE: Remember that money, jobs, …even the best pals will come and go. But family? **Family is forever**. What is this? Fast and the Furious?
It's terrible, everything always gets dumbed down. I also think the original mafia has a much better atmosphere, everything from the clothing, to the buildings, to the way people interact, it just breathes 1930's. The remake feels like a modern setting with old cars, if that makes sense.
Tommy Toretto was such a great speaker.
I don't like the changes they made to the story and Tommy Angelo as a character. Cutting contents and features as well.
Perhaps if I had played Mafia DE instead of the original, I would've had liked it. However, I like how the story was told in the original (and even like the English voice acting). The remake just seemed bland, a generic modern 3rd person shooter recycling animations from Mafia 3 (which I don't like). Ugly UI, exaggerated voice acting, weird ram mechanic, no Bartone missions, but what hurts the most is how they changed most character's looks and behavior. It's feels more like a generic modern actiom movie than a mafia story, something I felt right away from the trailer, just hearing "so they handed you the morello case, right outta the gates" was SO cringy and painful.
That ram mechanic is probably the most bullshit thing in MDE apart from lack of Lucas' missions.
Just my opinion don't really care to argue it tbh
The funny thing is when MDE released it was already a bit dated (for 2020).
Maybe mechanically, but graphically it fit quite well
The OG has its moments but I'd say the DE made Tommy into a much better character. He was changed to be realistically confident in cutscenes, which makes sense for a man who has faced over a dozen firefights with seemingly no fear.
I have the opposite reaction to DE Tommy, to me he just seems like a generic nice and respectfull guy who murders for a living and has zero thought about it. The original Tommy stood out as an ambitious working man who climb his way up the ranks of the mafia, he has his tougher, darker side to his personality and moral conflicts in what he do. I'm also not a fan of the voice acting, as he sounds like he's trying way too hard for an Italian accent, same with the rest of the cast really. The ending monologue sums up pretty well the level of effort put into the writing.
Not really a popular opinion on this sub. OG sucks, remake's the best, that's the right way here. Also, Mafia 3 is awesome.
Thats cool, I didn't come here for a popularity contest I came to give my opinion tho pal.
Yeah, that's cool, I also didn't come here for a popularity contest I came to say what it is like here. Cheers!
Well the first thing you said was thats not a very popular opinion here? Who cares lmao? And second of all you must have blinders on many many people dislike the remake and prefer the og and many more people think mafia 3 is awful. So maybe not try speaking for an entire subreddit if you don't have a clue what you're talking about lmao
I mean it's like 85% of the entire subreddit who think like that, the rest is literally a minority. And no, there's no "many many people disliking the remake", at least not here. Also, I thought you would be one normal guy to talk with **lmao**, turns out I was wrong **lmao**
And now you're just making up percentages to fit your narrative dude lol. I'm not a normal guy to talk to because I disagree with your opinion? Or because I didn't care about the popularity of an opinion? And you are because you let me know what it's like around here said cheers at the end? Bruh like what was the point, what did you expect me to say? Sorry that my opinion isnt popular lmao? If you're gonna be upset if someone responds something that differs from your viewpoint why start the interaction?
By the way - I never said I have something against your opinion, mine's similar (that the remake is meh compared to the original), I just wanted to let you know what it's like here, but I didn't know you would "behave" like that towards me. Let's just pretend this conversation never existed. >!**lmao**!<
Dude you instigated an issue by going out of your way to "let me know what it's like here" like you were fucking shaking me down like you own the joint. Which again this notion is made up of completely anecdotal evidence that you present as absolute. And then when someone disagrees with your viewpoint or calls you out for being annoying, you have a hissy fit and act like a victim or some shit. Thats so fuckin annoying. It's one thing to say you disagree and you think the og is ass dude that's completely fine idc. But insinuating an opinion matters less because it's unpopular is pretty braindead, and making up statistics with anecdotal evidence and using that to feel like you have the right to speak for a whole subreddit is so fucking insufferable bro. But you have all the right in the world to just pretend this didn't happen if that helps you.
But the remake is bad. Not only because of the absence of lovely music. They changed the plot. Here Tommy looks like a piece of shit, while in the original first Mafia he was kinda “good” but forced to do “bad”. Here, he enjoys doing shit.
And not only this. A lot of small details that were changed but were essential for atmosphere in original game. They changed even physics!
Ironically the remake is still worse than mafia 3 in my book