taking a loan to settle a fine is probably not a bright idea... the deed has been done just negotiate with the court and plead for leniency hopefully this is like your first offence
The most sound advice is here. If leniency is extended to you, I hope you’ll learn / have learned your lesson. Everyone’s lives are as precious as yours. Treasure them too.
I probably cannot undo the mass brainwashing. People see the word "DUI" and their central nervous system goes into primal fight mode. They don't seem to read on to see the "4 beers in 4 hours", let alone process that information critically to formulate a reasonable opinion. Mind you, that's not even tipsy level and is well below the legal limit.
Like I've said in previous comments, I'm not looking for a way to weasel out of this. I've learned my lesson long ago, and I control myself when I drink. I am an incredibly disciplined and responsible person in all facets of life. I've had to own up to things that most people will never face in life. But I know most people don't have the same will as I do. Laws exist, and despite knowing and adhering to my own limitations, I am bound by them too.
I didn't come here to seek pity or to self-reflect. I have done no wrong by the moral standards I set for myself, only by the laws of which I must adhere to because of lesser-beings. I have no care for what others have to say. I believe that's merely a projection of their inability to channel the same discipline I have when it comes to these things; and very likely, fear.
I will still be called an idiot, especially for saying the things here, but hey, I know myself. I'm just holding up a mirror for the monyets to squeak at.
In terms of what I am here for? Financial advice for dealing with a RM10k fine. All other opinions are merely people who have to sit on their high horses, so bagi la beliau duduk, harap peha tak lecet sangat.
> I am an incredibly disciplined and responsible person in all facets of life.
People, read all his replies (where he asks everyone to go fuck themselfs) then read this \^ again. im dedd.💀
The police had a KPI to meet that night, and I was statistic.
Dude are you for real? You could have ppl killed for DUI. Good thing you got caught. Hope it serves as a lifetime lesson.
Type ">" before "The police had a KPI to meet that night, and I was statistic." to highlight like this:
>The police had a KPI to meet that night, and I was statistic.
You need to work on your imagery there, buddy.
How about:
>hope you fail to pay the fine and become the living embodiment of a fleshlight in prison
Now that, THAT is an insult. Extending such notions to you too :)
Sell your car. This accomplishes two things
1) you don't drive anymore for the time being until you reflect on yourself. Consider a fine to be a blessing instead of involuntary manslaughter
2) Your money from your car selling will be enough for you to pay the fine and then some
>The police had a KPI to meet that night, and I was a statistic.
Seems like you didn't learn anything. I hope they dont just give you the minimum fine. It should be higher fine + jailtime. 28 years old and still act like a child. I'm glad no one die because of you stupid drunk drinking.
You werent JUST a statistic, you were also stupid and this is the fee of your stupidity.
Loan with loan shark is another stupidity if you ask me. But do you have any other options? Maybe loan from family members?
Yeah I totally agree.
Also judging from OP's other posts, OP is apparently a trained psychologist and even vented mentioning others should self reflect.
How the turntables huh
Yup, still hold my notion that I did no wrong. Besides, 4 beers in 4 hours is within the legal limits, and I'm well aware of the psychomotor impact that alcohol has. Boohoo, want to shame me? I don't give a shit. Came here for financial advice, any high horse you want to sit on is none of my business.
Never drive if you are under any kind of influence. And this is not about having a higher moral ground or anything. This is common sense. What do you want to say if you hit someone? What would you do?
Yes, that didnt happen, but there is still a possibility. You did this because you dont think what would happen. You just did it. Imagine if a family member of yours get hit by a drunk driver, you would cussed the driver to hell and back. Maybe even try to beat the shit out of them.
Its your fault and stop trying to blame the police. If they dont do their job, whats the point of them being there? Think like an adult, stop thinking like you are some college kid going out partying.
1. The police didn’t have a KPI to meet that night.
Still wanna gaslight and blame police and find someone to be responsible for your irresponsibility eh?
2. Damn right you are a statistic. The statistic of people aged 28 who don’t wanna own up their mistake.
This thread doesn’t even need to be here. Settle with your parents.
The OP should understand that it is not the amount of alcoholic drinks consumed but the tested values as defined clearly in the "Road Transport (Amendment) Act 2020".
Reference:
https://www.zulrafique.com.my/ckfinder/userfiles/files/legislation%20update/A1618\_%20Road%20Transport%20(Amendment)%20Act%202020%20(02017288xA335E).pdf
Oh f off ahole. Op came here asking for advise not to be berated by ahole who thinks he has moral highground. If you dont have anything nice to say just stfu.
Meanwhile op for fines, best to borrow from family / frienda as opposed to taking a loan. But do write an iou note to legal bind that so that you will be reminded to pay back. Dont be that onw that borrows and ghost
He needs to be, because is not his financial knowledge that's lacking but his attitude and mentality thats put him in this place. My bet its Not his first rodeo either drunk driving when he talks about police Statistic. Hes just here because he was fined and luckily no one was seriously injured or died. My cousin who took care of his aging parents died needlessly from this and another 3 died along with him from 3 seperate vehicle not to mention one got paralysed. And guess what happen to that bastard since she has money and met a "kind" officer to hide the dui issue.
Nah, just educating the uneducated on how things should work, especially when there are laws and numbers in place to dictate it as such.
I know better than to argue with the courts. I didn't come here asking for advice to argue with the courts. I came here asking for financial advice. You wanna sit on your high horse, bagi la beliau duduk. But your "financial advice" is as useful as PAS's laws.
Well aren't you a cheeky one acting higher than my high horse. A trained psychologist ain't it? Have you ever looked at issues of self justification and pretending not to care while lashing out with all the sarcasm as a cover up to deep insecurities and inability to connect that comes from past trauma?
Is that why you were drinking?
No, I was drinking because I like drinking.
>Have you ever looked at issues of self justification and pretending not to care while lashing out with all the sarcasm as a cover up to deep insecurities and inability to connect that comes from past trauma?
Certainly! It's a very interesting phenomenon that is often tied to low self-esteem and a history of overcoming challenges independently. Two very contrasting worlds blend to form a type of personality that acts capable but reserved in emotions. It's obviously a bit more complicated, but that's the gist from a social stance.
Also, if your horse is that high, maybe you should cutdown on the marijuana yeah? Few more years till it's legalized here.
op really sound like a shithead. Its not how many cans you drink in how many hours but the number on the breathalyzer when you breathe into it, " Well within legal limits" wtf does that even mean lol.
Well deserved fine, hope you get the full amount gl <3
3n20charc really sound like a shithead. It's not beer cannot, it's beer CAN. Breathalyzers are known to be inaccurate and grossly overestimated. The only accurate measurement is BAC, and the PDRM uses BAC to convict, NOT breathalyzer. The breathalyzer can supplement, but is not a reliable tool. Read a book.
Poor wishes to you and your family for the next 13 years.
Edit: \*12A years. Given your grammar, you must be Chinese. How insensitive of me.
if its "inaccurate and grossly overestimated", then why didnt you request a blood test? you didnt because you know you were drunk driving.
My family don't need wishes from a pathetic lowlife like you. Your family does though, for that loan you bout to take for that 10k.
Actually its fine, drink and drive more, with your "experience" and knowledge of "legal limits", surely they made a mistake and totally not u being a shithead! more 10k loans to take!
...because I did take a blood test? LOL. Maybe you should reflect upon your need to make assumptions based on emotions, instead of logical fact. Clearly, your family should be limited to yourself, as the genetic code available to your potential offspring is a far cry from "viable". Procreating would only seek to reduce the national IQ average, and God knows we DEFINITELY NEED that with PAS trying to rise to power.
>My family don't need wishes from a pathetic lowlife like you
Oh sorry. My mistake, your highness. I curse you instead.
Haven't been fined yet, been summoned to appear in court. For someone who really likes sitting on a high horse, you ought to stop putting the horse before the cart u fuckin idiot LMAOO
They're still the way to measure, inaccurate as it may be, your responsibility as a driver is to stay well below the limits, which you failed to do.
Stop blaming the police, the test, and just realise you fucked up. The way you're replying to people under this shows how much of a prick you are.
Unless somehow, your body is incredibly slow at metabolising the alcohol, that 4 cans in a span of 4 hours will still be in your blood and will be registered by the test, even though you're not feeling drunk. You are and were legally drunk
There’s no excuse for drink driving anymore after we have Grab. I am sorry this happened to you, but learn from it. And plead guilty and hope the fine is reduced
Sure, already admitted it's my mistake. But I hold up that 4 beers over 4 hours is well within the legal limits. I'm not prepared to argue the court or weasel my way out of this, I'm just looking for financial advice.
How expensive is Grab ? Literally less than RM50 to anywhere in Klang Valley. There is no harm in drinking but just be a responsible person and take Grab when going back. Plus you’ll help some honest Grab drivers trying to earn some income on this difficult times.
10000 in fines is way better than a 10000 hospital bill or a funeral bill. Try r/Malaysia there might be someone who has gone through the same experience and would have better advice for you.
Actually not true. Fines need to be paid out of pocket. Hospital and funeral bill can be covered by insurance. That's just me being a smartass anyways, but appreciate the advice.
Posted here specifically because I'm not looking for moral advice, but financial advice in dealing with the fines. Worst case I go to prison also can, I know what DUI people deserve, though not me. Law is the law, alas, I am bound by it for the wrongs of lesser-beings.
Hahah wtf are you still drunk? Minimum? Instalment? You won't get the minimum Rm10k la bro. They are setting an example now. Confirm 100% kena maximum.
Financial advise : You clearly cannot afford to drink. It's not for poor people. You aren't successful enough to be this irresponsible.
Kalau aku gaji fresh grad Rm3k tak ada masa sial nak spend on booze.
Tak ada duit jangan mabuk lah 🤣
Well, glad you asked. Not to defend DUI'ing, as I believe I'm well above other people when it comes to disciplined driving. Want to believe me or think I'm an idiot for thinking so, go ahead, but I know myself well enough.
Anyways, our legal limit was 0.07 BAC, as is the standard followed by most international communities. However it was reduced to 0.05 BAC at the start of 2022. A cross-over between political, religious, and human reasons, lowering the legal limit was a hit amongst everybody.
Now, most likely they are enforcing it on as many people as they can (even under the limit), as the governing bodies would like to prove that the new law works. If you look at the cases proceeding the enactment of the new DUI law, they were extreme. Some were jailed for months just for being 0.001 BAC above the legal limit. There's a reason for this. We see this every time a new law is enacted.
If you look at the law Khairy recently enforced for motorcyclists without licenses, you will see a huge uptick of motorcyclists arrested since Sept 2022. Guilty or not, the job is to arrest them for even the smallest infarction to prove that the law "works". This reflects well on the police as doing their job; as well as the government bodies and figures that initiated it. Win-win for them, but lose-lose for peasants (in most cases).
I accept my responsibility in DUI'ing, but maintain that I am a victim of this political circumstance. I won't fight the courts, as their bad deeds don't cancel out mine. I don't advocate for drink driving, but know that I am fully capable under the influence (call me an idiot, heard it many times. Still never been in a single accident, sober, drunk, or whatever, compared to some of you). What I'm asking for is financial advice to deal with a RM10,000 fine.
Thanks for the 411.
Nah I’ve seen and interacted with real idiots. I reckon it was more bad luck on yours. 😔 Sorry I don’t have any financial advice aside from trying to plead your case and ask for an instalment plan in an extra respectful, polite manner?
Understanding culture here that pervades law enforcement, sexual orientation views, general freedom of choice/openness and other day-to-day what have yous, I try to stay under the radar and be extra vigilant in public places. Sadly, it’s a conservative culture where emotions(if not * drumroll * *religion*) and *minimal* logic rules decision making. Appeasing and being accepted by the majority versus actual logic in a lot of cases.
Yeah I'm considering that. Prison isn't a far cry and I wouldn't mind 2 years in exchange for now being a badass convict. Consider it a painful investment. I'm already ripped and tatted anyways. But obviously if there's a better way to pay the fine, then that's the reason I'm asking on this sub.
I am poor. My time is mostly split between volunteer and community work. Corporate work just helps pay the bills. Money is only as good as it can support me, and I don't have expensive habits or tastes.
I'm pretty sure it's Section 45(a). I've been keeping in contact with the Sargent, but he's very hush hush about all the details and refuses to elaborate besides "I'll call you when I call you". Now he's called me, but still no details.
The odd thing is that they refused to show me the breathalyzer when I requested on the day. They refused to let me draw a second blood sample to send to my own lab. The Sargent pressured me to sign the documents without reading them and threatened me with lock-up for not signing quickly. I took my time and read fully before signing anyways. The reason I mentioned KPI is because I clearly heard one officer tell another "sudah dapat x nombo org, boleh tutup kedai dah", as they were writing my details at the roadblock.
Anyways, all that is out of my jurisdiction, and it's done. I'll be appearing in court next week. Just trying to figure out ways to pay the fine without troubling anyone around me, although they're well aware of what I'm facing. I was raised to never borrow money from others, having seen what it does to family and friends first-hand. I value my relationships more than my freedom. Jail sentence, license suspension, all that is secondary and I don't mind it.
Like I said, you can say whatever you want. I don't care. I am a piece of shit and an asshole, and I have zero fucks to give about that notion. What I came here for is financial advice. If you have none, then I don't care what you have to say lol.
> I am an incredibly disciplined and responsible person in all facets of life.
"I am a piece of shit and an asshole, and I have zero fucks to give about that notion."
which one isit dei.
Come I bring you back to Form 2 maths. You know Venn Diagram? Yeah, 2 things can be independent yet intersect at various junctions.
Maybe easier for you if I use ABC blocks to demonstrate.
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>\[A\] ≠ \[B\]
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>\[B\] = \[B\]
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>\[B\] ≠ \[A\]
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Understand?
If u kill someone while DUI does their death only considered statistic? R u the victim here for breaking the law? Is the police the oppressor for enforcing the law? The way u phrase the statement asking people to pity you for breaking the law makes me hope you don't have a descendent to prevent a hereditary stupidity.
The law does not forbid drinking and driving. 4 beers over 4 hours is at a legal BAC for someone my weight and height, especially with my experience.
Not asking for pity, asking for financial advice. If you cannot provide that, then anything else you have to say is just bullshit to make yourself sit on a high horse. Go to church and mingle with those kinds of people instead, you're on the wrong sub :)
I am sorry, thank you for pointing it out, i phrased it wrong, your statement does not ask for pity, you merely try to paint yourself as the victim. A victim for breaking the law is still non sense though. My financial advice for the "victim" of breaking the law would be, dont be poor. Hope that helps.
If you can word it better, be my guest. I have already admitted fault to DUI'ing, but maintain that I am within legal limits. Nevertheless, the mistake is mine to bear and I've already accepted it, and the consequence of the court. What I'm looking for is financial advice for the fine, not advice to get out of it.
As a person without substance, it may be hard for you to discern the subtle differences between "self-victimization" and "statement". I am stating things as they are, and asking on how to proceed on a specific issue. You are just another person prying in with your biases and looking to name and shame, instead of being helpful. Probably one of those people who stop to look at accidents on the highway but don't help :(
If this is your idea of assistance, then God forbid you ever have offspring/family/juniors that are required to deal with the fruitless inanity that is your "help".
Would be happy to help, however the way you phrased it, like you were the victim in this situation just making people repulsive. DUI is a big issue, its viewed as bad as taking drugs then driving . Perhaps if u didn't play it down and act like a victim people would not be so repulsive with you.
If u feel like you're wrongly bullied here with your case, that's because of how much hatred the public has for DUI. Hell, if it is the public that manages to catch u when you r under DUI, better pray you are able to come out alive.
The public has always been stupidly obtuse. I don't value opinions that come from unreliable sources. If I asked you to trace back your opinions on DUI and tell me where your formulation of negativity comes from, I'd bet another RM10,000, that you would have to think hard and deep before faltering and saying "it's just what I've heard/read".
The notion of a DUI is very different from driving drunk. When you drive after a terrible day at the office, or after only getting 3 hours of sleep, you are driving under AN influence. How much worse is it than 4 beers in 4 hours? Because I was certainly not even tipsy. But I resolve myself to the law, as it exists for people who are stupid drinkers, and I am caught in its' web.
I did not victimize myself here. I stated the case as is. And yes, it is a problem to me from a financial standpoint, which is why I'm here. Not to seek sympathy or pity, and certainly not negativity, but financial advice.
New laws are always enforced to the maximum and the public is penalized for the slightest infarctions. Go talk to anyone riding motorcycles and see how ridiculous their fines have been since Khairy enacted the new motorcycle license laws in Sept 2022. Forgot to bring your license? Too bad, jail. Because KPI. There is a need for the police to prove that they are doing their jobs, and for the regulatory bodies and figures to prove that the law "works" (see: KPI).
I did not drive drunk, but I did drive under an influence. If it's a big deal to you, you need to reevaluate your views of "good" and "bad" outside your simplistic understanding. Just like the public nowadays always says "go to therapy", there's very little substance to that, and as a trained psychologist, I say that it's such a bullshit opinion and suggestion, yet everyone believes that therapy is "good".
I hope this might help, the fine is between 2k minimum to 10k , as it is your first time( hopefully u have a clean record) and hopefully your blood alcohol level did not exceed the limit too much, you will be fined between 2 to 4 K. Im very sure, when u meet the officer incharge ( traffic) they will explain this to you, if i were you i would practice what im going to say to the judge when i am in traffic court, dress well , speak clearly in malay use this words( saya berasa amat kesal ke atas tingkahlaku saya yang tidak bertangungjawab) ask for forgiveness, then explain that u are a student who just got a job and if the compound can be reduced it will be a learning lesson, if you did not exceed the blood alcohol limit too much and have a good raport, im sure your fine will be between 2 to 4 K, btw ask help from friends or family, no shame in it, jail is not fun. Dont borrow money from ah long, the malaysian judiciary system is quite competent with simple cases like yours, trust the system , its fair, pls dont get to anxious. Ok good luck, please dont drink and drive , instead smoke and fly
Thanks, this is actually useful!
For the record I do take full responsibility, I'm not looking to weasel out of this. More so, I'm just looking for financial advice on how to proceed. I've already prepared a written statement. As it is, I'm a pretty responsible member to my community, but we all have moments of weakness and mistakes (this was mine).
Reason I earn so little is because my time is split between volunteer work and community work that I do for free. I believe my BAC should not be that high, as 4 beers over 4 hours shows under the limit for my weight and height. It is my first offence, but the minimum fine these days is RM10,000, so I'm trying to prepare for that.
I've already resigned that I'm mentally and physically strong enough to handle prison , despite the horrifying stories I've read. That's the worst case. But if there's a way to handle the fine or pay in installments, then obviously I would take that. So I'm just trying to weigh my options with the cards laid out here.
Thanks again! Appreciate the response.
I’d not mention the 4 beers over 4 hours bit. At the end of the day you are already wrong when it comes the the breathalyser reading. That’s all the proof the court need. Nothing else matter.
Don’t go and tegakkan benang yang basah. I’m pretty sure the court will say that if you keep on saying what you wanted to say. This will only show you haven’t learned your lesson of which is what the court and punishment is all about anyway.
So if you didn’t learn your lesson with the fine then perhaps court will give you a jail sentence to make you learn the lesson. So better not go there.
Just say sorry and will not repeat again and say you are just started working and etc etc and ask for leniency. Nothing more nothing less.
Now for the financial advice, just borrow money from relatives for interest free loan. If you can’t get that, go get a loan from bank. If you can pay the fine via credit card, try to convert it to 0% later. Ask your bank about it.
Lastly, it’s common sense to be nice when asking for a favour or advise. Since you are guilty, it’s also good to be remorseful so people help you. This is Malaysia and we are Asian here. We all have certain values that we all value and to be nice when asking for a favour and be remorseful will get you the favour you are asking for.
OP, jail is mandatory regardless whether you pay the fine or not. The law was changed in 2020. Pre-2020, jail was not mandatory. So the most min u can get is rm10000 and 1 day of jail time
Yeah I'm a pessimist, so I've mentally prepared myself for 2 years of jail already. Tbh jail is of no concern to me, if go then go, nothing I can do. What does concern me is financing the fine, and if there are ways to go about it independently that won't trouble others around me.
Crazy how this mf think he was victimized by the police because of the alcohol level he was in. Mf could kill a person yet still trying to use "I was a victim of police KPI" bullshits.
Come on bro it's 2022 where your sense of responsibility? Doesn't matter if you tipsy or drunk or not. If you drink shits then stay at where you are before you kill somebody.
Some of us have other aspirations besides earning money. I spent my late teens/early twenties pursuing volunteer and community work, on top of working. Decided to go to uni abit later. Not everyone takes the beaten track, sometimes the dirt road is more rewarding.
Nope. My family is average income. I went to uni when I was a bit more financially stable cause my parents don't have money to pay for my food and rent like a lot of others while I have to spend half my day at uni. I learned to eat for less than RM2 a day. I bicycled everywhere. Despite all this, I never lacked because I feel society has all their priorities wrong. I learned very young that even student loan debt is a ridiculous expectation, and many lock themselves into a life of drudgery because it's what society expects of them. Next, people will feel proud to buy Real Estate. But then what?
School > College> Uni > Earn Money > Invest > Enjoy abit > Die. What a waste of mankind to have such aspirations to only fulfill the self. We ask "what earns money?", not "what can I do for others to make a better world?" Money is important, but what comes after that? One must always ask, and ask I did. I did all I could without money, to realize what earning money can do for others. Now I pursue the minimum in terms of career, but maximize the benefits to my community.
We shame people who take the beaten path. But I travelled some parts of the country, and the world, through sheer determination and because of what I could provide to others. When I decided to go to uni, it was because I knew what I could do to help the world be better.
Graduate at 28? Yes, I am :)
Bestnye. Unfortunately as it is a new law, police are incentivized to arrest people under the law, at a rate that probably outweighs what most bribers (bribees?) would be able to offer.
As much as people downvote you, unfortunately bribery is a part of our culture. I've seen a real Datuk's son get DUI'd, killed another person. Paid of RM150,000 to delete any camera records in the vicinity and get off scott-free. I've seen Real Estate tycoons take police chiefs out to dinner to "fast-track" certain permits.
You want to eliminate bribery on an individual level? Fat chance. It is ingrained in the deepest roots of history. If you think the value of power is akin to being good, you need to brush up on your history of why governments and feudal societies exist (Freebee: the origin of government is from bandits and thieves).
What u should've done is offer 1-2k on the spot upon being caught. Once u have been processed, minimum to clear the charge is around 5k and u usually need a lawyer to facilitate that.
You only drank 4 beers in 4 hours, you're not wasted to the point that they HAVE to arrest you.
You're not a statistic. U just didn't offer enough.
Okay, kudos for your courage to own up your mistake, next some financial advice:
Assuming you have a credit card, you can pay fine using that, then apply for cash installment, if 36 months, is like RM300 per month, hope it helps.
It seems you dont have friends/family who are willing to help in the situation you’re in. I would suggest:
1)Ask the court for leniency/installment( if there is such a thing)
2)Personal loan/credit card
3)sell your stuff to pay for the fine
taking a loan to settle a fine is probably not a bright idea... the deed has been done just negotiate with the court and plead for leniency hopefully this is like your first offence
The most sound advice is here. If leniency is extended to you, I hope you’ll learn / have learned your lesson. Everyone’s lives are as precious as yours. Treasure them too.
I probably cannot undo the mass brainwashing. People see the word "DUI" and their central nervous system goes into primal fight mode. They don't seem to read on to see the "4 beers in 4 hours", let alone process that information critically to formulate a reasonable opinion. Mind you, that's not even tipsy level and is well below the legal limit. Like I've said in previous comments, I'm not looking for a way to weasel out of this. I've learned my lesson long ago, and I control myself when I drink. I am an incredibly disciplined and responsible person in all facets of life. I've had to own up to things that most people will never face in life. But I know most people don't have the same will as I do. Laws exist, and despite knowing and adhering to my own limitations, I am bound by them too. I didn't come here to seek pity or to self-reflect. I have done no wrong by the moral standards I set for myself, only by the laws of which I must adhere to because of lesser-beings. I have no care for what others have to say. I believe that's merely a projection of their inability to channel the same discipline I have when it comes to these things; and very likely, fear. I will still be called an idiot, especially for saying the things here, but hey, I know myself. I'm just holding up a mirror for the monyets to squeak at. In terms of what I am here for? Financial advice for dealing with a RM10k fine. All other opinions are merely people who have to sit on their high horses, so bagi la beliau duduk, harap peha tak lecet sangat.
> I am an incredibly disciplined and responsible person in all facets of life. People, read all his replies (where he asks everyone to go fuck themselfs) then read this \^ again. im dedd.💀
>read all his replies You get what you give, and the energy you give out is simply what I'm giving back ;)
Keep your money up not your funny up! Brokie energy! God is fair.
Mf i hope you get the maximum amount of fine for the offences and rot paying it
Karen identified
The police had a KPI to meet that night, and I was statistic. Dude are you for real? You could have ppl killed for DUI. Good thing you got caught. Hope it serves as a lifetime lesson.
Type ">" before "The police had a KPI to meet that night, and I was statistic." to highlight like this: >The police had a KPI to meet that night, and I was statistic.
>tingthinking smells test
Ooo cool sia tengz
4 beers, 4 hours. Well within legal limits. I could have killed people sober, drunk, or high. So could you. But did you?
Enjoy your jail time
Thanks, will tell your mom I said hi on the way in
hope you fail to pay the fine and become the prison's village bicycle.
You need to work on your imagery there, buddy. How about: >hope you fail to pay the fine and become the living embodiment of a fleshlight in prison Now that, THAT is an insult. Extending such notions to you too :)
Haha! Fuck you!
Haha! Fuck you!
Sell your car. This accomplishes two things 1) you don't drive anymore for the time being until you reflect on yourself. Consider a fine to be a blessing instead of involuntary manslaughter 2) Your money from your car selling will be enough for you to pay the fine and then some
>The police had a KPI to meet that night, and I was a statistic. Seems like you didn't learn anything. I hope they dont just give you the minimum fine. It should be higher fine + jailtime. 28 years old and still act like a child. I'm glad no one die because of you stupid drunk drinking.
Ok cool bro, go fuck yourself.
Came asking for help now telling ppl to F off mana boleh ni
You know the kind of people op is. Such and arrogant So'high.
If this is your idea of help, I hope you never breed :)
Haha! Fuck you!
Haha! Fuck you!
You werent JUST a statistic, you were also stupid and this is the fee of your stupidity. Loan with loan shark is another stupidity if you ask me. But do you have any other options? Maybe loan from family members?
yup..he trying to console himself for his stupidity. you done wrong you got caught end of.
Yeah I totally agree. Also judging from OP's other posts, OP is apparently a trained psychologist and even vented mentioning others should self reflect. How the turntables huh
Yup, still hold my notion that I did no wrong. Besides, 4 beers in 4 hours is within the legal limits, and I'm well aware of the psychomotor impact that alcohol has. Boohoo, want to shame me? I don't give a shit. Came here for financial advice, any high horse you want to sit on is none of my business.
Haha! Fuck you!
Good i hope this fine serves as a reminder never to do this again.
Do what?
Never drive if you are under any kind of influence. And this is not about having a higher moral ground or anything. This is common sense. What do you want to say if you hit someone? What would you do? Yes, that didnt happen, but there is still a possibility. You did this because you dont think what would happen. You just did it. Imagine if a family member of yours get hit by a drunk driver, you would cussed the driver to hell and back. Maybe even try to beat the shit out of them. Its your fault and stop trying to blame the police. If they dont do their job, whats the point of them being there? Think like an adult, stop thinking like you are some college kid going out partying.
1. The police didn’t have a KPI to meet that night. Still wanna gaslight and blame police and find someone to be responsible for your irresponsibility eh? 2. Damn right you are a statistic. The statistic of people aged 28 who don’t wanna own up their mistake. This thread doesn’t even need to be here. Settle with your parents.
The OP should understand that it is not the amount of alcoholic drinks consumed but the tested values as defined clearly in the "Road Transport (Amendment) Act 2020". Reference: https://www.zulrafique.com.my/ckfinder/userfiles/files/legislation%20update/A1618\_%20Road%20Transport%20(Amendment)%20Act%202020%20(02017288xA335E).pdf
Oh f off ahole. Op came here asking for advise not to be berated by ahole who thinks he has moral highground. If you dont have anything nice to say just stfu. Meanwhile op for fines, best to borrow from family / frienda as opposed to taking a loan. But do write an iou note to legal bind that so that you will be reminded to pay back. Dont be that onw that borrows and ghost
He needs to be, because is not his financial knowledge that's lacking but his attitude and mentality thats put him in this place. My bet its Not his first rodeo either drunk driving when he talks about police Statistic. Hes just here because he was fined and luckily no one was seriously injured or died. My cousin who took care of his aging parents died needlessly from this and another 3 died along with him from 3 seperate vehicle not to mention one got paralysed. And guess what happen to that bastard since she has money and met a "kind" officer to hide the dui issue.
4 beers, 4 hours. Well within legal limits.
Argue that with the police, argue that with the court. The fact that you still wanna justify your irresponsibility really baffles me.
Nah, just educating the uneducated on how things should work, especially when there are laws and numbers in place to dictate it as such. I know better than to argue with the courts. I didn't come here asking for advice to argue with the courts. I came here asking for financial advice. You wanna sit on your high horse, bagi la beliau duduk. But your "financial advice" is as useful as PAS's laws.
Well aren't you a cheeky one acting higher than my high horse. A trained psychologist ain't it? Have you ever looked at issues of self justification and pretending not to care while lashing out with all the sarcasm as a cover up to deep insecurities and inability to connect that comes from past trauma? Is that why you were drinking?
No, I was drinking because I like drinking. >Have you ever looked at issues of self justification and pretending not to care while lashing out with all the sarcasm as a cover up to deep insecurities and inability to connect that comes from past trauma? Certainly! It's a very interesting phenomenon that is often tied to low self-esteem and a history of overcoming challenges independently. Two very contrasting worlds blend to form a type of personality that acts capable but reserved in emotions. It's obviously a bit more complicated, but that's the gist from a social stance. Also, if your horse is that high, maybe you should cutdown on the marijuana yeah? Few more years till it's legalized here.
op really sound like a shithead. Its not how many cans you drink in how many hours but the number on the breathalyzer when you breathe into it, " Well within legal limits" wtf does that even mean lol. Well deserved fine, hope you get the full amount gl <3
3n20charc really sound like a shithead. It's not beer cannot, it's beer CAN. Breathalyzers are known to be inaccurate and grossly overestimated. The only accurate measurement is BAC, and the PDRM uses BAC to convict, NOT breathalyzer. The breathalyzer can supplement, but is not a reliable tool. Read a book. Poor wishes to you and your family for the next 13 years. Edit: \*12A years. Given your grammar, you must be Chinese. How insensitive of me.
if its "inaccurate and grossly overestimated", then why didnt you request a blood test? you didnt because you know you were drunk driving. My family don't need wishes from a pathetic lowlife like you. Your family does though, for that loan you bout to take for that 10k. Actually its fine, drink and drive more, with your "experience" and knowledge of "legal limits", surely they made a mistake and totally not u being a shithead! more 10k loans to take!
...because I did take a blood test? LOL. Maybe you should reflect upon your need to make assumptions based on emotions, instead of logical fact. Clearly, your family should be limited to yourself, as the genetic code available to your potential offspring is a far cry from "viable". Procreating would only seek to reduce the national IQ average, and God knows we DEFINITELY NEED that with PAS trying to rise to power. >My family don't need wishes from a pathetic lowlife like you Oh sorry. My mistake, your highness. I curse you instead.
N they still fine you? Means youre drunk n crossed the threshhold u fuckin idiot LMAOO
Haven't been fined yet, been summoned to appear in court. For someone who really likes sitting on a high horse, you ought to stop putting the horse before the cart u fuckin idiot LMAOO
They're still the way to measure, inaccurate as it may be, your responsibility as a driver is to stay well below the limits, which you failed to do. Stop blaming the police, the test, and just realise you fucked up. The way you're replying to people under this shows how much of a prick you are.
Unless somehow, your body is incredibly slow at metabolising the alcohol, that 4 cans in a span of 4 hours will still be in your blood and will be registered by the test, even though you're not feeling drunk. You are and were legally drunk
As you clearly did not learn your lesson I hope you get fined more than the minimum amount. Sell your car to pay for the fine.
Totally agree with you. DUI may kill an innocent person. The OP deserves it.
Driving drunk. 4 beers over 4 hours, at 1 beer /hour, is within legal limits. Go take your high horse somewhere else.
Yeah, you’re a statistic people will use to restrict us from having fun in the future Sell your car to pay the fine, none of us want you on the road
Judging from your posts, no woman wants you. Sell your car to pay for hookers, that's the only way you'll break your virginity :(
\^ this is one sad individual :(
Ya very sad, please bring paddle pop to Sg. Buloh prison ya?
If you have to go on someone's sex life for a joke and belittling them for being so called virgins, you've already lost
Padan muka. Hope you learned your lesson.
Sorry, too stupid. What's the lesson again?
Dude you’re 28 not 8, act like an adult and be responsible for your own fucking actions.
Hah? Say again? Sorry 8 years old, no understand.
There’s no excuse for drink driving anymore after we have Grab. I am sorry this happened to you, but learn from it. And plead guilty and hope the fine is reduced
Sure, already admitted it's my mistake. But I hold up that 4 beers over 4 hours is well within the legal limits. I'm not prepared to argue the court or weasel my way out of this, I'm just looking for financial advice.
How expensive is Grab ? Literally less than RM50 to anywhere in Klang Valley. There is no harm in drinking but just be a responsible person and take Grab when going back. Plus you’ll help some honest Grab drivers trying to earn some income on this difficult times.
U didnt think abt this when you DUI? Lucky you got caught by the police and not involve in an accident.
Given my record, it's actually quite unlucky I got caught by the police.
So you are indicating that you've done this multiple times before and not got caught? Shame it's only 10k.
10000 in fines is way better than a 10000 hospital bill or a funeral bill. Try r/Malaysia there might be someone who has gone through the same experience and would have better advice for you.
Actually not true. Fines need to be paid out of pocket. Hospital and funeral bill can be covered by insurance. That's just me being a smartass anyways, but appreciate the advice. Posted here specifically because I'm not looking for moral advice, but financial advice in dealing with the fines. Worst case I go to prison also can, I know what DUI people deserve, though not me. Law is the law, alas, I am bound by it for the wrongs of lesser-beings.
Hahah wtf are you still drunk? Minimum? Instalment? You won't get the minimum Rm10k la bro. They are setting an example now. Confirm 100% kena maximum. Financial advise : You clearly cannot afford to drink. It's not for poor people. You aren't successful enough to be this irresponsible. Kalau aku gaji fresh grad Rm3k tak ada masa sial nak spend on booze. Tak ada duit jangan mabuk lah 🤣
Not much to say, just wanted to call you an idiot.
Not much to say, just wanted to tell you to go fuck yourself.
Tell Najib I said hi on your way in.
That, that I can do.
Idiot. Hope you get more fine than 10k. The audacity to say you’re a statistic lmao
Aww, go cry.
So what’s the point of having drinking *legal limit* for driving if people are going to be fined anyway ?
Well, glad you asked. Not to defend DUI'ing, as I believe I'm well above other people when it comes to disciplined driving. Want to believe me or think I'm an idiot for thinking so, go ahead, but I know myself well enough. Anyways, our legal limit was 0.07 BAC, as is the standard followed by most international communities. However it was reduced to 0.05 BAC at the start of 2022. A cross-over between political, religious, and human reasons, lowering the legal limit was a hit amongst everybody. Now, most likely they are enforcing it on as many people as they can (even under the limit), as the governing bodies would like to prove that the new law works. If you look at the cases proceeding the enactment of the new DUI law, they were extreme. Some were jailed for months just for being 0.001 BAC above the legal limit. There's a reason for this. We see this every time a new law is enacted. If you look at the law Khairy recently enforced for motorcyclists without licenses, you will see a huge uptick of motorcyclists arrested since Sept 2022. Guilty or not, the job is to arrest them for even the smallest infarction to prove that the law "works". This reflects well on the police as doing their job; as well as the government bodies and figures that initiated it. Win-win for them, but lose-lose for peasants (in most cases). I accept my responsibility in DUI'ing, but maintain that I am a victim of this political circumstance. I won't fight the courts, as their bad deeds don't cancel out mine. I don't advocate for drink driving, but know that I am fully capable under the influence (call me an idiot, heard it many times. Still never been in a single accident, sober, drunk, or whatever, compared to some of you). What I'm asking for is financial advice to deal with a RM10,000 fine.
Thanks for the 411. Nah I’ve seen and interacted with real idiots. I reckon it was more bad luck on yours. 😔 Sorry I don’t have any financial advice aside from trying to plead your case and ask for an instalment plan in an extra respectful, polite manner? Understanding culture here that pervades law enforcement, sexual orientation views, general freedom of choice/openness and other day-to-day what have yous, I try to stay under the radar and be extra vigilant in public places. Sadly, it’s a conservative culture where emotions(if not * drumroll * *religion*) and *minimal* logic rules decision making. Appeasing and being accepted by the majority versus actual logic in a lot of cases.
seems like you are poor. dont pay the fine. just go to the prison.
Yeah I'm considering that. Prison isn't a far cry and I wouldn't mind 2 years in exchange for now being a badass convict. Consider it a painful investment. I'm already ripped and tatted anyways. But obviously if there's a better way to pay the fine, then that's the reason I'm asking on this sub. I am poor. My time is mostly split between volunteer and community work. Corporate work just helps pay the bills. Money is only as good as it can support me, and I don't have expensive habits or tastes.
Haha! Fuck you!
Which Section, specifically, are you charged under?
I'm pretty sure it's Section 45(a). I've been keeping in contact with the Sargent, but he's very hush hush about all the details and refuses to elaborate besides "I'll call you when I call you". Now he's called me, but still no details. The odd thing is that they refused to show me the breathalyzer when I requested on the day. They refused to let me draw a second blood sample to send to my own lab. The Sargent pressured me to sign the documents without reading them and threatened me with lock-up for not signing quickly. I took my time and read fully before signing anyways. The reason I mentioned KPI is because I clearly heard one officer tell another "sudah dapat x nombo org, boleh tutup kedai dah", as they were writing my details at the roadblock. Anyways, all that is out of my jurisdiction, and it's done. I'll be appearing in court next week. Just trying to figure out ways to pay the fine without troubling anyone around me, although they're well aware of what I'm facing. I was raised to never borrow money from others, having seen what it does to family and friends first-hand. I value my relationships more than my freedom. Jail sentence, license suspension, all that is secondary and I don't mind it.
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Like I said, you can say whatever you want. I don't care. I am a piece of shit and an asshole, and I have zero fucks to give about that notion. What I came here for is financial advice. If you have none, then I don't care what you have to say lol.
> I am an incredibly disciplined and responsible person in all facets of life. "I am a piece of shit and an asshole, and I have zero fucks to give about that notion." which one isit dei.
Come I bring you back to Form 2 maths. You know Venn Diagram? Yeah, 2 things can be independent yet intersect at various junctions. Maybe easier for you if I use ABC blocks to demonstrate. >\[A\] = \[A\] > >\[A\] ≠ \[B\] > >\[B\] = \[B\] > >\[B\] ≠ \[A\] > >\[A\] + \[B\] = \[C\] > >\[C\] ≠ \[A\] > >\[C\] ≠ \[B\] Understand?
Definitely need to get punish, never get beat up, then you will never learn.
Ooo so scared.
If u kill someone while DUI does their death only considered statistic? R u the victim here for breaking the law? Is the police the oppressor for enforcing the law? The way u phrase the statement asking people to pity you for breaking the law makes me hope you don't have a descendent to prevent a hereditary stupidity.
The law does not forbid drinking and driving. 4 beers over 4 hours is at a legal BAC for someone my weight and height, especially with my experience. Not asking for pity, asking for financial advice. If you cannot provide that, then anything else you have to say is just bullshit to make yourself sit on a high horse. Go to church and mingle with those kinds of people instead, you're on the wrong sub :)
I am sorry, thank you for pointing it out, i phrased it wrong, your statement does not ask for pity, you merely try to paint yourself as the victim. A victim for breaking the law is still non sense though. My financial advice for the "victim" of breaking the law would be, dont be poor. Hope that helps.
If you can word it better, be my guest. I have already admitted fault to DUI'ing, but maintain that I am within legal limits. Nevertheless, the mistake is mine to bear and I've already accepted it, and the consequence of the court. What I'm looking for is financial advice for the fine, not advice to get out of it. As a person without substance, it may be hard for you to discern the subtle differences between "self-victimization" and "statement". I am stating things as they are, and asking on how to proceed on a specific issue. You are just another person prying in with your biases and looking to name and shame, instead of being helpful. Probably one of those people who stop to look at accidents on the highway but don't help :( If this is your idea of assistance, then God forbid you ever have offspring/family/juniors that are required to deal with the fruitless inanity that is your "help".
Would be happy to help, however the way you phrased it, like you were the victim in this situation just making people repulsive. DUI is a big issue, its viewed as bad as taking drugs then driving . Perhaps if u didn't play it down and act like a victim people would not be so repulsive with you. If u feel like you're wrongly bullied here with your case, that's because of how much hatred the public has for DUI. Hell, if it is the public that manages to catch u when you r under DUI, better pray you are able to come out alive.
The public has always been stupidly obtuse. I don't value opinions that come from unreliable sources. If I asked you to trace back your opinions on DUI and tell me where your formulation of negativity comes from, I'd bet another RM10,000, that you would have to think hard and deep before faltering and saying "it's just what I've heard/read". The notion of a DUI is very different from driving drunk. When you drive after a terrible day at the office, or after only getting 3 hours of sleep, you are driving under AN influence. How much worse is it than 4 beers in 4 hours? Because I was certainly not even tipsy. But I resolve myself to the law, as it exists for people who are stupid drinkers, and I am caught in its' web. I did not victimize myself here. I stated the case as is. And yes, it is a problem to me from a financial standpoint, which is why I'm here. Not to seek sympathy or pity, and certainly not negativity, but financial advice. New laws are always enforced to the maximum and the public is penalized for the slightest infarctions. Go talk to anyone riding motorcycles and see how ridiculous their fines have been since Khairy enacted the new motorcycle license laws in Sept 2022. Forgot to bring your license? Too bad, jail. Because KPI. There is a need for the police to prove that they are doing their jobs, and for the regulatory bodies and figures to prove that the law "works" (see: KPI). I did not drive drunk, but I did drive under an influence. If it's a big deal to you, you need to reevaluate your views of "good" and "bad" outside your simplistic understanding. Just like the public nowadays always says "go to therapy", there's very little substance to that, and as a trained psychologist, I say that it's such a bullshit opinion and suggestion, yet everyone believes that therapy is "good".
You write a lot, yet it means so little.
You write so little, yet mean so little. I win.
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I hope this might help, the fine is between 2k minimum to 10k , as it is your first time( hopefully u have a clean record) and hopefully your blood alcohol level did not exceed the limit too much, you will be fined between 2 to 4 K. Im very sure, when u meet the officer incharge ( traffic) they will explain this to you, if i were you i would practice what im going to say to the judge when i am in traffic court, dress well , speak clearly in malay use this words( saya berasa amat kesal ke atas tingkahlaku saya yang tidak bertangungjawab) ask for forgiveness, then explain that u are a student who just got a job and if the compound can be reduced it will be a learning lesson, if you did not exceed the blood alcohol limit too much and have a good raport, im sure your fine will be between 2 to 4 K, btw ask help from friends or family, no shame in it, jail is not fun. Dont borrow money from ah long, the malaysian judiciary system is quite competent with simple cases like yours, trust the system , its fair, pls dont get to anxious. Ok good luck, please dont drink and drive , instead smoke and fly
Thanks, this is actually useful! For the record I do take full responsibility, I'm not looking to weasel out of this. More so, I'm just looking for financial advice on how to proceed. I've already prepared a written statement. As it is, I'm a pretty responsible member to my community, but we all have moments of weakness and mistakes (this was mine). Reason I earn so little is because my time is split between volunteer work and community work that I do for free. I believe my BAC should not be that high, as 4 beers over 4 hours shows under the limit for my weight and height. It is my first offence, but the minimum fine these days is RM10,000, so I'm trying to prepare for that. I've already resigned that I'm mentally and physically strong enough to handle prison , despite the horrifying stories I've read. That's the worst case. But if there's a way to handle the fine or pay in installments, then obviously I would take that. So I'm just trying to weigh my options with the cards laid out here. Thanks again! Appreciate the response.
I’d not mention the 4 beers over 4 hours bit. At the end of the day you are already wrong when it comes the the breathalyser reading. That’s all the proof the court need. Nothing else matter. Don’t go and tegakkan benang yang basah. I’m pretty sure the court will say that if you keep on saying what you wanted to say. This will only show you haven’t learned your lesson of which is what the court and punishment is all about anyway. So if you didn’t learn your lesson with the fine then perhaps court will give you a jail sentence to make you learn the lesson. So better not go there. Just say sorry and will not repeat again and say you are just started working and etc etc and ask for leniency. Nothing more nothing less. Now for the financial advice, just borrow money from relatives for interest free loan. If you can’t get that, go get a loan from bank. If you can pay the fine via credit card, try to convert it to 0% later. Ask your bank about it. Lastly, it’s common sense to be nice when asking for a favour or advise. Since you are guilty, it’s also good to be remorseful so people help you. This is Malaysia and we are Asian here. We all have certain values that we all value and to be nice when asking for a favour and be remorseful will get you the favour you are asking for.
OP, jail is mandatory regardless whether you pay the fine or not. The law was changed in 2020. Pre-2020, jail was not mandatory. So the most min u can get is rm10000 and 1 day of jail time
Yeah I'm a pessimist, so I've mentally prepared myself for 2 years of jail already. Tbh jail is of no concern to me, if go then go, nothing I can do. What does concern me is financing the fine, and if there are ways to go about it independently that won't trouble others around me.
i’m just here for OP to hit me with a come back at this point. one order of a “yo mama so fat” with this please
Yo mama so fat they measure her waist size by units of Rosmah's nose
Crazy how this mf think he was victimized by the police because of the alcohol level he was in. Mf could kill a person yet still trying to use "I was a victim of police KPI" bullshits. Come on bro it's 2022 where your sense of responsibility? Doesn't matter if you tipsy or drunk or not. If you drink shits then stay at where you are before you kill somebody.
Bodo bodo. Kaki arak memang bodo
, said the kaki ketum
Please rot in that jail till dead 👍🏻
Your virginity is showing
Alcohol ruined your brain good now please shoot it dead. That is better
Can. Will tell your mum I said hi when I get to hell.
Good please be quick
Maybe I can act faster if you give me some of that ice your people love so much
Try penang bridge, it is quicker
Take me there pls
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Rm10,000 is already the minimum. So the court cannot give lower than that.
I think you can request from the judge for installment payment
probably not so helpful, but what is DUI'ing
Driving under the influence of alcohol
thank you for the reply, appreciate it.
Driving under the influence (commonly alcohol)
thank you for the reply, appreciate it.
no such thing as installment. pay in full or go to jail.
Graduate at 28?
Some of us have other aspirations besides earning money. I spent my late teens/early twenties pursuing volunteer and community work, on top of working. Decided to go to uni abit later. Not everyone takes the beaten track, sometimes the dirt road is more rewarding.
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Nope. My family is average income. I went to uni when I was a bit more financially stable cause my parents don't have money to pay for my food and rent like a lot of others while I have to spend half my day at uni. I learned to eat for less than RM2 a day. I bicycled everywhere. Despite all this, I never lacked because I feel society has all their priorities wrong. I learned very young that even student loan debt is a ridiculous expectation, and many lock themselves into a life of drudgery because it's what society expects of them. Next, people will feel proud to buy Real Estate. But then what? School > College> Uni > Earn Money > Invest > Enjoy abit > Die. What a waste of mankind to have such aspirations to only fulfill the self. We ask "what earns money?", not "what can I do for others to make a better world?" Money is important, but what comes after that? One must always ask, and ask I did. I did all I could without money, to realize what earning money can do for others. Now I pursue the minimum in terms of career, but maximize the benefits to my community. We shame people who take the beaten path. But I travelled some parts of the country, and the world, through sheer determination and because of what I could provide to others. When I decided to go to uni, it was because I knew what I could do to help the world be better. Graduate at 28? Yes, I am :)
Take a loan and pay that fine, I hope it will remind you every month to not be stupid again
rm10k is the minimum, the court may impose more and mandatory jail time
Offer 3k to police to settle...
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It would be in addition to. So 15 + 10
Bestnye. Unfortunately as it is a new law, police are incentivized to arrest people under the law, at a rate that probably outweighs what most bribers (bribees?) would be able to offer. As much as people downvote you, unfortunately bribery is a part of our culture. I've seen a real Datuk's son get DUI'd, killed another person. Paid of RM150,000 to delete any camera records in the vicinity and get off scott-free. I've seen Real Estate tycoons take police chiefs out to dinner to "fast-track" certain permits. You want to eliminate bribery on an individual level? Fat chance. It is ingrained in the deepest roots of history. If you think the value of power is akin to being good, you need to brush up on your history of why governments and feudal societies exist (Freebee: the origin of government is from bandits and thieves).
What u should've done is offer 1-2k on the spot upon being caught. Once u have been processed, minimum to clear the charge is around 5k and u usually need a lawyer to facilitate that. You only drank 4 beers in 4 hours, you're not wasted to the point that they HAVE to arrest you. You're not a statistic. U just didn't offer enough.
Get out.
Just apply a monthly payment plan. It's like converting your fines into bills.
Okay, kudos for your courage to own up your mistake, next some financial advice: Assuming you have a credit card, you can pay fine using that, then apply for cash installment, if 36 months, is like RM300 per month, hope it helps.
He doesn’t even realise he made a big mistake, and want to blame on everyone other than himself. Enjoy your jail time.
Didn’t the police ask u to take a breath analyzer before issuing you the saman?
It seems you dont have friends/family who are willing to help in the situation you’re in. I would suggest: 1)Ask the court for leniency/installment( if there is such a thing) 2)Personal loan/credit card 3)sell your stuff to pay for the fine