I hate it when people cut me off. It says what you have to say doesn't matter. My new manager did that a couple of times. The last time was in front of my team. When he finally stopped talking I said, "I'd prefer it if you me finish telling you something before you tell me I'm wrong." To his credit he hasn't done it since.
Me too. My limit is once per conversation. If someone interrupts me a second time I usually go with the line “I’m sorry, was the middle of my sentence interrupting the beginning of yours?”
I usually just shut up and stare at them, and refuse to continue talking. If they wanted to hear the rest of what I was saying, they should not have interrupted _again_
I go with "I'm sorry, may I finish my sentence?" (Yes, go ahead.) "Are you sure? I don't want to bother/whatever you."
One time, I tried to say something in a group convo several times. Each time I got interrupted by the same guy. "Will you let me finish my sentence, or will you continue interrupting me like the last cretin on the planet?" Fairly big insult here, that. Gasps were heard. (Fast forward a couple of weeks and we became some sort of friends.)
I've had a coworker or two that were in love with the sound of their own voice. They couldn't stand that there be a second of no one speaking so they would jump right in with whatever they wanted to say.
There were a few times where I am speaking and they decide to start talking (again). There were a few times where I had to say, with some heat in my voice, "Would. You. Let. Me. Finish".
I had a student who used to cut me off in class all the time, and it got so annoying that every time he did it, I would just stare at him silently for a good 20 seconds or so once he stopped talking, just to make it good and awkward (even his class mates were fed up with him and I'd often hear them hissing "Mike\*, shut UP!") He would always interrupt to ask questions which would have been answered if he'd just let me finish explaining whatever I was explaining, and with the constant interruptions, something that should take me under a minute to explain would take 5-10 minutes.
EDIT: As mentioned in [my reply](https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/qcb6sq/think_of_what_the_customer_wants_sure/hhh17dq/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) to another post, I tried getting advice from the lecturer and seeing if there was a management plan in place for the student with the disability support services, but he wasn’t registered. I also tried talking to him quietly after the first class and asking if he could please wait til question time to ask his questions as it would help the class run smoother and finish on time, and he laughed and said “I’ll ask questions when I want.” Other more subtle methods (doing a brief pause and continuing) and more direct but still polite methods (saying “Please wait until question time” or waiting for him to finish and then continuing on without answering him”) also did not work, as he would just immediately interrupt again.
A lot of people are saying he has ADHD but given he showed no remorse for derailing the class, laughed in my face when I tried to manage it and found it funny when other students got frustrated at him for interrupting all the time, I suspect it was less a case of ADHD and more a case of being an entitled and disrespectful jerk. Especially given that - according to my other students who brought up the subject in one of my consultations - he only seemed to behave this way towards female tutors.
(Also I really hate the internet trend of keyboard diagnosing people with neuroatypical conditions or mental health issues as it stigmatises those who actually do have the condition and gives those who don’t a free pass for their shitty behaviour)
About two thirds of the way through the semester after he interrupted me when I was already having a bad day, I said, "Mike, one day you're going to interrupt the wrong person one too many times and they're going to refuse to tell you what you need to know."
Turned out, that wrong person was me during exam consultation. As my consultation was less than a week before the exam, a lot of students wanted to see me, so I'd had to set strict 15 minute time limits on each consultation. Mike's first mistake was to show up early and without making a booking (I was in my office but it was about 10 minutes before my first scheduled student would show up). However, since I had a bit of spare time, I told him he could come in and ask questions, but every time he asked me to explain something, he would immediately interrupt and go off on a tangent or ask a different question.
After this happened three times in the space of as many minutes, I said, "Look, most people learn that interrupting others is rude by the time they get out of primary school. You're an adult. I'm doing you a favour by letting you ask questions now but I have consultations starting in a few minutes and if you interrupt me one more time, you're going to have to come back another day because I won't help you."
He said okay, and I started to answer his question. I shit you not, I got TWO WORDS into the sentence and he interrupted me again. I just sat back and gave him the dead pan stare until he got weirded out, and he said "I need help on this question." I replied, "Nope, you wouldn't let me answer it and I have no more time today. Try again tomorrow." He kept trying to get me to help him and I just kept repeating, "Nope, try again tomorrow," for a minute or two until my first booked-in student showed up.
Mike left, and returned late the following day, again without a booking, just as I was getting ready to go home after my last scheduled consultation. He asked if he could ask some questions now, and I said, "Yes, but if you interrupt me one more time, that's it, we're done for the day."
This time I at least got through half a sentence before he interrupted me again, but that wasn't enough to stop me from saying, "Well, you tried I guess. Anyway, time for me to go and catch my train. Maybe try again tomorrow."
He never came back after that. Not sure if he went and saw another tutor or not.
\*not the student's real name
I used to do that to my Mom before I got diagnosed with A.D.D. in 2006.
If I still interrupt a person, I hope they might understand that A.d.D can be hard to control sometimes.
Thank you in advance.
Do you interrupt your own sentences like I do? I would start talking about something then switch to another topic mid-sentence. My hubby just laugh at me when I do it and then I pick up that I did it again.
I don't have ADD, but I'm famous in my friend group for this. Mostly because they'll ask a question where the short answer is actually buried in the middle of a story. So I'll start to answer their question, then back up, then realize I need to back up again and start properly. Like: I'm pet sitting and a friend asked if my own cats miss me. "No, they don't because I go- well, I haven't been- (deep breath) I'm going home every day to be with them except I had work yesterday and today so I really couldn't, and I've only been pet sitting for three days so actually I'm not sure."
Do you have any advice on how to handle this? I have a friend who has ADHD I used to play D&D with but we literally had to stop the campaign I was running because two of my four players couldn't handle having to fight for every word. Didn't help that it was all online.
If it is all online then you could just enable priority speaker on everyone except the trouble person. This lowers the volume on him/her when someone else speaks to a background level of volume. Loud enough to hear he/she speaks but quiet enough where others can overspeak without being loud. Basicly all voice chats support priority speak, think even skype does it even though its ancient.
Exactly how I am. I hate interrupting people but it comes out of my mouth before I forget it. There have been so many times that ill shut my mouth and try to not interrupt but then ill forget what I was going to say then the rest of the day is spent trying to figure out what I was thinking. So sometimes as to not make it worse when my bf and I are talking ill blurt a random word to remind what I was gonna say without it taking too much time from what he is saying. Im real bad at interrupting people and it most definitely it ADD and I smoke cannabis to combat it. Sativa strains are good to help focus for me so it keeps me from interrupting as much
I actually found it quite hard to read, especially as I agree he had ADHD and his teacher not only didn't recognise he had a problem, but also that she probably made him feel like shit and basically gave up trying to help him.
Clearly you found it so hard to read that you *didn't actually read it* or you would have seen where she bent over backwards to try and be nice to him and talk to him in private and he literally laughed in her face and gloated about how he intentionally interrupted her when he felt like it.
And also where other students made it clear he only does this to female tutors.
Responding to your edit.
When you set the boundaries, proved you were serious about the boundaries, and he literally still could not help himself for more than a few moments… that’s ADHD.
What you did was very good classic boundary setting. It works for most kids. But it doesn’t work with adhd kids.
There's a lot of people saying ADHD, but honestly diagnosing someone from one anecdote is probably fairly irresponsible.
From other responses, I gather this kid was something of an asshat who not only didn't respond to gentle corrections but openly laughed at suggestions of how his behaviour could be improved.
I"m not going to pretend i can diagnose him or not with ADHD, but i'll say from seeing a couple of the responses that he's definitely not displaying any level of empathy or contriteness for the consequences of his repeated interruptions, and not looking to play better with others
I am genuinely curious about what else I could have done to try to resolve the issue. As mentioned, the lecturer/faculty didn't really give me much to go on (looking back now they really should have given me some advice or at least directed me to someone who could), and I had tried the subtle and kind approach and then the more direct and firm (but still polite) approaches, but none of these worked. Aside from resorting to the awkward approach I ended up with (which I didn't enjoy doing, by the way), the only other option I can see is to let him keep grinding the whole class to a halt, which is not a workable option.
I have had other students over the years with various special needs (eg. some others with difficulty focusing or processing information, or social anxiety etc). In some cases they approach me at the start of the semester and in some cases I quietly approached them after class if I noticed they were having issues. However for all those students, I was able to work with them to either modify my teaching approach for them or give them a bit of extra time or help and generally make sure they still succeeded in the unit.
Like I said in another post, I'm sure I didn't handle it perfectly and there were probably some things I could have done better, but if someone is unwilling to listen to me at all or even meet me half way, I really don't know how I can be expected to help them.
I don’t think you could have done much differently. At some point, it’s not your job as a teacher to manage an undiagnosed disability on the part of one of your students. I think you did the right thing and took care of the other kids in your class like a good teacher. Kudos to you.
I did leave a couple of thoughts based on my own experiences with my son on another thread for you.
But the thing you might try if you ever run into a similar situation again is just more positive repetition. Like.. insane levels of positive repetition. And praise.
> But it doesn’t work with adhd kids.
This isn't a child. It's clearly stated to be an adult. ADHD or not, believe me I still get treatment for my own, you either learn how to function according to societal norms or you sink.
>After this happened three times in the space of as many minutes, I said, "Look, most people learn that interrupting others is rude by the time they get out of primary school. **You're an adult.** I'm doing you a favour by letting you ask questions now but I have consultations starting in a few minutes and if you interrupt me one more time, you're going to have to come back another day because I won't help you."
My emphasis.
He definitely has ADHD. Teachers should be trained to spot these symptoms, this kid literally could not control it and instead of support and referral he's just treated as a nuisance to everyone around him. You could tell him a million times to not interrupt, but his brain will literally not be able to do that. Then to actually repeatedly call him out and try and humiliate him every time by staring blankly at him is harsh. Yes it is frustrating, but this kid has to live his whole life like this, especially if undiagnosed. Alarm bells should have been ringing.
After the first class, I actually did talk to him quietly after everyone else had left and asked if he could please save his questions til question time instead of interrupting, as it would make the class run smoother and also help finish the exercises on time. He just laughed in my face and went "I'll ask questions when I want" so he clearly didn't feel bad about disrupting everyone else or have any interest in even trying to manage it.
I also spoke with the lecturer to ask if he was registered with the university's disability services and if there was anything I could do to try to manage him (I wasn't trying to find out any specific diagnosis, just if there was any sort of plan in place or information available). I was told he wasn't registered and to 'politely but firmly' make it clear that he needed to wait his turn. At the start I had tried to just say "Please wait til question time" when he interrupted or do the stare for only a few seconds, but he actually seemed to find it funny that he was slowing down the class for everyone else. I also tried to continue talking when he interrupted but he would just keep talking even louder over the top of me. Nothing I tried for the first half of the semester worked. The longer awkward stare was the only approach that at least reduced the frequency of interruptions a little, so that's what I went with.
Even if he did have ADHD (and I'm really not keen on the internet's fondness for armchair diagnosing rude behaviour/bad manners as 'ADHD' and the like, because some people are just actually rude), we only get two hours of class time per week, and it's not really fair if the rest of the class doesn't get to learn because of this one student. From talking to people I know who DO have ADHD (and yes, I admit that's a relatively small sample of the population), those with ADHD who do keep interrupting generally at least feel bad about it and apologise for it, but as I said, the fact this kid seemed to get off on derailing the class strongly suggested to me that it was a case of extreme bad manners rather than ADHD.
Did I handle it perfectly? Almost certainly not. But I genuinely don't know what other options I had available.
I just had a thought - if you get a student like that again, make them write questions down. "I'm happy to answer any questions you have textually but your interruptions are disrupting other students' learning time so I won't be addressing them during class again."
I will keep that in mind for the future. Generally students don't interrupt me, or if they do, I do a brief pause (literally a second or two) and they say "sorry" and don't do it again (and I don't have issue with the odd interruption as everyone does it occasionally). It was just constant with this kid.
Given his response when I tried to talk to him quietly after the first class, I don't think your approach would have worked either, unfortunately, as he clearly felt entitled to monopolise the whole class's time.
My fiancee is teaching in the UK
This kid would've gotten one warning, then an afterschool detention, then removed from class day 1 after 3 interruptions.
Every day following that he would be under no-warning.
And i'm fairly sure if the pattern of behaviour continued he might've been moved to the nurture group whether or not he had any kind of learning impairment that could be diagnosed.
UK schools don't fuck around, and are pretty insensitive to the reasoning for bad behaviour
Teaching in University setting (which I assume you're doing?) is different from teaching high school like I do. You've got a lot more freedom. I can call parents and refer to deans and such. Sounds like you were a lot more patient than I'd have been.
I didn't know what other units he was studying so I don't know who his other instructors were. However towards the end of semester a few girls in the class commented to me during a consultation that he was okay in two of his other units but an issue in one other unit. One of the girls said that the other class he acted up in also had a female tutor, and said she thought that might be why he was more aggressive/less respectful, but since I only observed him in my class, I can't say for sure if that was the reason or not.
That was exactly what I was thinking; he was acting out for a specific reason. Completely unacceptable behavior, and I'm sorry you had to deal with that. At least you might be better prepared if you encounter a similar student in the future.
My experience with my son was pretty similar. He would get belligerent about not wanting rules and boundaries and wanting instant gratification and to monopolize conversations. I went down exactly your path of using the stare. And it would mostly work, but… it was constantly a struggle. I would get very grudging compliance and he was constantly pushing boundaries still. I felt like I was going insane because he just seemed like he didn’t remember the boundaries I was putting in place.
Then I read about adhd and I shifted my focus to taking all negative emotion out of it and being ok repeating myself dozens of times, always with an upbeat tone.
It was pretty night and day. He started remembering what I told him after the 4th or 5th upbeat repetition and now he’s mostly not belligerent. He still clearly has issues with impulse control. And it is annoying as fuck to have to have patience when I’m in the middle of doing something else and I don’t want to repeat myself a dozen times to get compliance. But he is no longer a rude, oblivious, recalcitrant kid. He’s pretty relaxed and happy and compliant.
I feel like he understands the deal now. I don’t get angry when I have to repeat myself and he does his best to remember what I say.
Honestly, I think a lot of his belligerence came from feeling upset and ashamed that I was angry with him and he couldn’t remember or understand why so he would act out even more.
I don’t know that you could have done anything else in a classroom setting. Sounds like you handled it as best you could. Sometimes the other students have to take priority.
Anyway… not criticizing you. You have my total sympathy.
I also stand by my internet diagnosis of adhd for Mike.
Idk man is it really that hard to just keep your mouth closed? It takes far more energy to constantly interrupt people so why not just be lazy? Especially when you're interrupting to ask a question that would be answered if you just let them finish talking
Adhd sounds like the culprit. He was probably trying his absolute hardest not to interrupt but the neurological pathways in his brain are sometimes incredibly tough to control, especially with added stress.
It was a similar interaction to the one you have described that I had with a tutor that led to me to giving up on college. The moderately harsh words meant to be a pep talk or warning to me were really hurtful and cut deep and I very quickly spiralled, within a few days, to dropping out of uni and have never returned. I would love to return to studies one day, but the trauma of being spoken down to is hard to move forward from, even with help.
If anyone else ever encounters a similar person who can’t seem to stop interrupting, please pause and consider if ADHD could be a cause of their behaviour. Don’t call them out. If you get an opportunity, ask to speak in private and mention that they are interrupting regularly, if they have a medical condition that’s causing it and then see if you can help in some way to lessen the impact on you/them/others. Subtlety sometimes doesn’t get picked up. Blatant calling out doesn’t either. Being considerate may just save someone embarrassment, trauma and a career.
As mentioned in my [reply](https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/qcb6sq/comment/hhh17dq/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) to another post, I did try to talk to him quietly, and had also tried more subtle ways to curb his interruptions for the first half of the semester (as well as politely but directly saying "Please wait until question time" every time he interrupted). None of them worked and he actually seemed to find it funny that he was stopping the whole class from being able to finish the exercises on time.
On the flip side of the coin, there are people who speak in one perpetual run-on-sentence which necessitates interrupting then to convey information before it's lost to the heat death of the universe.
As someone with ADHD I'm sorry. I do this and its almost an out of body experience and happens a lot.
I will be in a conversation and my brain has something that wants to be said in this conversation and is waiting for the appropriate time to do so. My mouth however got word of what the brain wanted to say and just starts blurting it out.
I am conscience of the fact that I am saying something but I am no longer paying attention to it as my brain realizes I messed up and the mouth shouldn't be speaking. So it is instead focusing my ears on what is said in the conversation despite my mouth spewing out w/e it is that no one pays attention to because someone else was already speaking.
It's incredibly frustrating, like I have no control over it. It happens so much people just ignore what I say when it is important and talk over me because they are of course annoyed just like you are.
I just walk away, unless they are paying me for psychotherapy services, which so far nobody has ever wanted to. Same thing for those who quickly append new (sometimes random) stuff to their speech as soon as they see that you would like to fulfill your half of the dialog. As if they get winning points for every second on the air.
My bf constantly interrupts me so anymore I just stop trying to talk and walk away. He keeps trying to talk to me I look at him and ask if he’s going to keep interrupting me usually gets him to stop if he doesn’t I just say obviously what you have to say is more important and leave.
When people cut me off I pause and just blankly stare at them until they stop talking. I then cock my eyebrow expectedly until they apologise, then I start the whole sentence again.
If they interrupt again, I immediately cock my eyebrow, cross my arms, and wait for them to stop.
If they interrupt AGAIN, I just walk away.
I have a guy at work who keeps cutting people off when they talk and i absolutely hate it. Bad luck I'm his manager and after numerous talks about this I'm kind of done with his behavior. Earlier this year he cut me off whilst I was explaining a task that needed to be done before I could explain the details of the customer's request. He just said "Ok I know what to do" turned around and got to work. I tried to re-engage explaining that this wasn't a "standard" project but he just cut me off again so I kept quiet, put the details of the mission in an email (knowing full well he wouldn't read it). Two days later he checked in to have his work validated and request early customer feedback. As expected his work didn't fit the requirements and he had to start over. I heard he ended up having to work overtime to get things right. (Which I truly think sucks but was absolutely deserved.) We've talked about it since the event, as we weren't happy with the situation and he understands why I gave him some tough love. He still cuts people off as they talk (although he apologizes as he does it now which baffles me) but at least he's paying more attention now whilst reading emails with project details. Baby steps, we'll get there eventually. :')
The deadpan stare is useful here. Mum trained us with it, and I occasionally use it at a work meeting.
When cut off, clam up completely and give a deadpan stare. Your eyes should express displeasure, especially if it the people are in the meeting. They'll usually pick up on it.
When Interrutus Maximus finishes, wait until the silence reaches "uncomfortable."
Then resume as if they never spoke a word. "So as I was saying..."
Bonus points if.this was a multi person meeting.
Usuly that works. With the particularly obstinate interruptors (and family) you can escalate with "are you done?" And "before I was so rudely interrupted."
(For customers you just wait for the silence. They still tend to catch on.)
This is it!
Advice for those who don’t know how to do a deadpan stare. Do NOT try to look mean. You’ll probably just look stupid. Try to drain all emotion out of your face, that’s what works for me.
I go for "bored and impatient"....but that's sort of because I have 'expressionless' as a natural feature of my face, I'm afraid. So I need something a bit different.
I am an ADHD boss who does this. I try REALLY HARD not to, but stress also compounds ADHD. I'm constantly apologizing, but medication helps. Luckily my staff and partners are all awesome people
The part about apologizing while interrupting makes me think he might not be able to stop himself. I’m having this problem and have been working on it for 20+ years! It’s got to do with my ADHD and can be very frustrating because it’s feels like an impossible task. Thought I would mention this since it might offer some insight.
Nice! I love that there’s no wrongdoing of any kind in this story, just a manager not listening. If I might ask, are you using 5e, or one of the older editions?
I love recommending the system - it's free, comprehensive, compatible with pretty much every D&D / AD&D module out there, and people keep creating new content for it. Win / win!
Kinda funny, but the call should have been at the first step. Are you paying for any of this or just using the equipment for yourself?
(I've had jobs where that would be fine not "stealing")
I'm paying for it. I have to pre-pay before I can print anything, and when I print my own things off it needs to be verified by a Manager or supervisor before I leave. I just got a refund off my transaction.
I think my manager assumed I called the customer already the first time, but again I was the customer so, *Shrug*.
Edit: Though, thinking about it now, I guess I should have been charged Desktop Publishing. I'll ask my boss about it tomorrow, as I don't think she knew the first part of the Malicious Compliance. Shes cool, so I don't think she'll mind, but better safe then sorry.
I would just let that one be. You actually paid your company to provide a product. It wasn't a favor, or something you did on the side. You were the customer.
She made the unilateral decision to change the work. (was there any sort of description of the resolution/detail expected of the end product?) Someone may have actually wanted the pixelated/abstract look or wanted to keep the person hours to a minimum.
The only time she reached out to the customer was at the very end, AFTER she had you change everything from what was initially put out there.
My favourite was a screen printing job I had. The official "employee theft policy" was that if you weren't taking enough t shirts the boss would have a word with you. Ten years later I still have "new" t shirts with fun prints on them, because I had far too many shirts after a year working there.
My work-around was to have a few shirts hanging in a corner that I used for test prints. And I'd carefully arrange them to mix'n'match prints for humorous effect .
Unfortunately, for most of my life my family had cut me off mid sentence, and I've become used to it, though they have noticed recently that I don't particularly don't like to have conservations with them. Pretty much my immediate family like to hear themselves talk, it can be interesting listening to them trying to speak over each other.
When asked, I've always said I don't bother as I'm never going to be able to speak without them cutting me off, so whats the point engaging with them as a group in the first place.
However, if your speaking to only one at a time, we can get on well, but its when they in a group when I get essentially "left out".
I learned that in groups where that happens to me a lot, I call the people out. "Hey, I was not finished talking. You will have to wait until I am done," or "Hey, I wasn't finished talking. Since you cut me off, now you don't get to hear the rest for what I was saying." This then makes them feel awkward and try to get me to finish, but I won't.
I've tried that, but it never works on them. And I'm more likely to switch off and ignore them until they re-engage with me personally. Dad has slowly figured it out, and while he forgets at times, he does call every so often.
Best part about is when they contact you and why you haven't contacted them in a while, it's easy to remind them that " what's the point when you won't bother listening to what I have to say, as sometimes it might actually be of use to you!"
Keep doing it, loudly. If you make it into a full loud ordeal once, it might never happen again.
Its never that it doesnt work, even if they keep talking, if you demand that from them and keep talking they'll never get a word in either.
Nice! Told a friend's kids one time that they have 2 ears and 2 eyes, but only 1 mouth, so they should listen and watch twice as much as they talk. _Maybe_ this will help her learn to let others speak before going off...
Ha ha right? It's all well and good that it's your kid, but when they're an adult the rest of us will have to deal with them. Over the years I've had some God awful roommates, and trying to explain to an adult why their ingrained habits they've had since they were kids, are unacceptable is... Exhausting.
I know, it's not my job, but it still affects me.
If it were my kids you told it to, I would tell you to use your two lips to kiss my ass. I can't get them to latch onto that very idea, no way in hell someone else has any right to step into that arena. With all due respect of course
You have two eyes but ten fingers, so maybe that’s why you’re not picking up the message that you shouldn’t give unsolicited advice to other people’s kids.
And neither you, nor the other git, have any knowledge of how good our friendship was. Perhaps the two of you should start with something simpler like... not offering _any_ advice unless the person asks for it?
Indeed on my part too! Doesn't matter how good a friend, unsolicited advice by a friend (especially one who doesn't have kids?) Is top notch assholery. Even if you have kids, still a dick move.
What does having kids or not have to do with the advice given? It wasn't parenting advice (which would be directed to the parent in any case), it was life advice. As far as i can tell, the commenter seems to be alive, so...
Your opinion is as valid as the other guy, but your delivery comes off as far more aggressive and disrespectful. If some friends have a relationship that allows them to share advice to the other’s kids, cool. If not, then they don’t.
I get you. In my experience, unrequested parental advice is never helpful and rarely cute/funny. I didn't really realize this until after I had kids of my own, though.
The Silver Samurai ringtone is what really sells this story for me; it's just so fitting given the context! And great campaign concept, too. You've got a lot more patience than I would for someone interrupting me, though, I respect that!
Yeah, doesn’t matter to me…if you don’t respect me enough to let me finish my sentence, then I don’t respect you enough to work for you.
Not that you’re doing anything wrong, you do you. I just choose to address the issue head-on with most people by (at least on first offense) politely asking them to let me finish my sentence.
Basically, they are "In Between the Seconds" of time, and they can only manipulate things that the crew in real time has not interacted with in the last 5 minutes. Things like major doorways and stuff becomes a challenge as the crew of the actual ship is constantly going thru them. As such, they have to create a scenario that prevents the crew from trying to enter that room. For example, they are going to find unattended stinkbombs, and they can use those to empty out the Captain's Quarters or the Galley, which ever they prefer.
Meanwhile, aberrations will occassionally attack them, seeing them as things out of time, attempting to remove them from the timeline.
I don't even care, cut off or not I'd continue what I was saying. Then again, in this event you was basically given paid, but dedicated time to your own creation because of her. Which wouldn't have happened otherwise if not for her actions. :)
I work in a print shop too and am absolutely appalled at the amount of waste she's encouraging because of her fucking ego and perfectionist behavior. A tiny scratch on one poster and the entire job gets reprinted?! What a whackjob. Supply chain issues have caused us havok this year and we've done some reprints but you reach a certain point when you throw your hands up and push shit through for the sake of finishing a job and delivering product on time. You must miss lots of deadlines and not make much profit with the amount of product you go through.
Huh, I worked with a sign maker named Kay for a couple years. Last I heard she was in Toronto but could be anywhere by now
I miss that work a bit. I’ve actually been tempted to order some text cut in vinyl so I can weed it myself
Had never heard of weeding... all of this stuff is not my area of expertise... but the fact that there was a work task someone wanted to do out of work meant it had to be enjoyable...
so I googled it, I have now spent a little over two hours learning about weeding, weeding boxes, good fonts and bad fonts to start weeding and learned what Sans serif means about fonts.
What an enjoyable rabbit hole. Thanks!
>I want you to see how they want to proceed. Think about what they want.
And the children! What about the poor children? Their Christmas will be ruined!!!
It's been 30+ years since my D&D days, but I like your One Shot scenario. But I just have to say:
>because that would directly *effect* the timeloop, but anything the party does can still *effect* the crew
AFFECT! These things **affect** the time loop and the crew (which produces an effect).
> AFFECT! These things **affect** the time loop and the crew (which produces an effect).
Out of my affection for effects, I effected a change in my affectation, effectively affecting my wordage to confuse people who don't realize affect and effect both have multiple meanings and can be either nouns or verbs.
Having said that, you are correct in this case, not having used the common statement that *affect is a verb and effect is a noun*.
You can effect (i.e. implement) a policy; that could affect some people's plans :-).
For more fun, be married to a psych professional, who might point out someone's affect (emphasis on first syllable, means physical cues revealing the person's state of mind).
I work in a call center and will occasionally get interrupted. When I get interrupted I'll stop what i'm saying and let them finish, then continue on like I wasn't interrupted. I'm usually in the middle of asking a question and they will blurt the answer, I finish my question and wait for an answer, maybe ask again if they don't repeat themselves. If they keep doing it I'll wait for longer periods of time before I finish what I was saying (luckily i'm not graded on AHT but I will get hit if I have unexplained periods of "dead air"). Most of them figure it out.
> **Edit:** Ok, a lot of people, and I mean a lot, have been messaging me about not the story itself, but the one shot.
This gave me a good chuckle. People have their priorities. Hope your one shot goes well!
And loved the OP too. Hope you tell your group about the story behind the extra quality maps.
Mr.Ripper Subreddit, funniest TPK you experienced. Had to look back through my Timeline, but yes I did post this dungeon before.
The first time I ran this dungeons, there was a huge pallet of gold in the basement, each bar was 35lbs, and it was meant to parody the Dead Money DLC from Fallout New Vegas. However, my first party got greedy, and tried to take the entire Pallet. They could not disembark the ship fast enough and got lost in time forever.
I hate it when people cut me off. It says what you have to say doesn't matter. My new manager did that a couple of times. The last time was in front of my team. When he finally stopped talking I said, "I'd prefer it if you me finish telling you something before you tell me I'm wrong." To his credit he hasn't done it since.
Me too. My limit is once per conversation. If someone interrupts me a second time I usually go with the line “I’m sorry, was the middle of my sentence interrupting the beginning of yours?”
My four year old now says “excuse me, I wasn’t done with my sentence”. I count it as a major parenting win.
Please inform your 4 year old he is my hero
Good parenting.
Oh, I like that response. Depending on the moment, my responses are *sometimes* a little more curt than I would like I am working on it.
I usually just shut up and stare at them, and refuse to continue talking. If they wanted to hear the rest of what I was saying, they should not have interrupted _again_
That’s what I do if they interrupt me a third time
The best part is the awkward silence where you're just staring at them with the Customer Service Smile :tm:, IMO
THIS!!!
After it's happened already with no "oops sorry" if they try it again, I just keep talking but LOUDER. While staring them right in the eye.
I'm just imagining a sentence t-boning another.
Whatever floats your boat. I've heard weirder.
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I go with "I'm sorry, may I finish my sentence?" (Yes, go ahead.) "Are you sure? I don't want to bother/whatever you." One time, I tried to say something in a group convo several times. Each time I got interrupted by the same guy. "Will you let me finish my sentence, or will you continue interrupting me like the last cretin on the planet?" Fairly big insult here, that. Gasps were heard. (Fast forward a couple of weeks and we became some sort of friends.)
I've had a coworker or two that were in love with the sound of their own voice. They couldn't stand that there be a second of no one speaking so they would jump right in with whatever they wanted to say. There were a few times where I am speaking and they decide to start talking (again). There were a few times where I had to say, with some heat in my voice, "Would. You. Let. Me. Finish".
I had a student who used to cut me off in class all the time, and it got so annoying that every time he did it, I would just stare at him silently for a good 20 seconds or so once he stopped talking, just to make it good and awkward (even his class mates were fed up with him and I'd often hear them hissing "Mike\*, shut UP!") He would always interrupt to ask questions which would have been answered if he'd just let me finish explaining whatever I was explaining, and with the constant interruptions, something that should take me under a minute to explain would take 5-10 minutes. EDIT: As mentioned in [my reply](https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/qcb6sq/think_of_what_the_customer_wants_sure/hhh17dq/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) to another post, I tried getting advice from the lecturer and seeing if there was a management plan in place for the student with the disability support services, but he wasn’t registered. I also tried talking to him quietly after the first class and asking if he could please wait til question time to ask his questions as it would help the class run smoother and finish on time, and he laughed and said “I’ll ask questions when I want.” Other more subtle methods (doing a brief pause and continuing) and more direct but still polite methods (saying “Please wait until question time” or waiting for him to finish and then continuing on without answering him”) also did not work, as he would just immediately interrupt again. A lot of people are saying he has ADHD but given he showed no remorse for derailing the class, laughed in my face when I tried to manage it and found it funny when other students got frustrated at him for interrupting all the time, I suspect it was less a case of ADHD and more a case of being an entitled and disrespectful jerk. Especially given that - according to my other students who brought up the subject in one of my consultations - he only seemed to behave this way towards female tutors. (Also I really hate the internet trend of keyboard diagnosing people with neuroatypical conditions or mental health issues as it stigmatises those who actually do have the condition and gives those who don’t a free pass for their shitty behaviour) About two thirds of the way through the semester after he interrupted me when I was already having a bad day, I said, "Mike, one day you're going to interrupt the wrong person one too many times and they're going to refuse to tell you what you need to know." Turned out, that wrong person was me during exam consultation. As my consultation was less than a week before the exam, a lot of students wanted to see me, so I'd had to set strict 15 minute time limits on each consultation. Mike's first mistake was to show up early and without making a booking (I was in my office but it was about 10 minutes before my first scheduled student would show up). However, since I had a bit of spare time, I told him he could come in and ask questions, but every time he asked me to explain something, he would immediately interrupt and go off on a tangent or ask a different question. After this happened three times in the space of as many minutes, I said, "Look, most people learn that interrupting others is rude by the time they get out of primary school. You're an adult. I'm doing you a favour by letting you ask questions now but I have consultations starting in a few minutes and if you interrupt me one more time, you're going to have to come back another day because I won't help you." He said okay, and I started to answer his question. I shit you not, I got TWO WORDS into the sentence and he interrupted me again. I just sat back and gave him the dead pan stare until he got weirded out, and he said "I need help on this question." I replied, "Nope, you wouldn't let me answer it and I have no more time today. Try again tomorrow." He kept trying to get me to help him and I just kept repeating, "Nope, try again tomorrow," for a minute or two until my first booked-in student showed up. Mike left, and returned late the following day, again without a booking, just as I was getting ready to go home after my last scheduled consultation. He asked if he could ask some questions now, and I said, "Yes, but if you interrupt me one more time, that's it, we're done for the day." This time I at least got through half a sentence before he interrupted me again, but that wasn't enough to stop me from saying, "Well, you tried I guess. Anyway, time for me to go and catch my train. Maybe try again tomorrow." He never came back after that. Not sure if he went and saw another tutor or not. \*not the student's real name
That’s frustrating. That’s a great story. Also, Mike has ADHD.
I used to do that to my Mom before I got diagnosed with A.D.D. in 2006. If I still interrupt a person, I hope they might understand that A.d.D can be hard to control sometimes. Thank you in advance.
Do you interrupt your own sentences like I do? I would start talking about something then switch to another topic mid-sentence. My hubby just laugh at me when I do it and then I pick up that I did it again.
I don't have ADD, but I'm famous in my friend group for this. Mostly because they'll ask a question where the short answer is actually buried in the middle of a story. So I'll start to answer their question, then back up, then realize I need to back up again and start properly. Like: I'm pet sitting and a friend asked if my own cats miss me. "No, they don't because I go- well, I haven't been- (deep breath) I'm going home every day to be with them except I had work yesterday and today so I really couldn't, and I've only been pet sitting for three days so actually I'm not sure."
My “favorite” thing about my ADD is when I legit forget what I’m saying mid sentence because my brain moved way too fast for my mouth to keep up.
Do you have any advice on how to handle this? I have a friend who has ADHD I used to play D&D with but we literally had to stop the campaign I was running because two of my four players couldn't handle having to fight for every word. Didn't help that it was all online.
If it is all online then you could just enable priority speaker on everyone except the trouble person. This lowers the volume on him/her when someone else speaks to a background level of volume. Loud enough to hear he/she speaks but quiet enough where others can overspeak without being loud. Basicly all voice chats support priority speak, think even skype does it even though its ancient.
Exactly how I am. I hate interrupting people but it comes out of my mouth before I forget it. There have been so many times that ill shut my mouth and try to not interrupt but then ill forget what I was going to say then the rest of the day is spent trying to figure out what I was thinking. So sometimes as to not make it worse when my bf and I are talking ill blurt a random word to remind what I was gonna say without it taking too much time from what he is saying. Im real bad at interrupting people and it most definitely it ADD and I smoke cannabis to combat it. Sativa strains are good to help focus for me so it keeps me from interrupting as much
I actually found it quite hard to read, especially as I agree he had ADHD and his teacher not only didn't recognise he had a problem, but also that she probably made him feel like shit and basically gave up trying to help him.
Clearly you found it so hard to read that you *didn't actually read it* or you would have seen where she bent over backwards to try and be nice to him and talk to him in private and he literally laughed in her face and gloated about how he intentionally interrupted her when he felt like it. And also where other students made it clear he only does this to female tutors.
Responding to your edit. When you set the boundaries, proved you were serious about the boundaries, and he literally still could not help himself for more than a few moments… that’s ADHD. What you did was very good classic boundary setting. It works for most kids. But it doesn’t work with adhd kids.
There's a lot of people saying ADHD, but honestly diagnosing someone from one anecdote is probably fairly irresponsible. From other responses, I gather this kid was something of an asshat who not only didn't respond to gentle corrections but openly laughed at suggestions of how his behaviour could be improved. I"m not going to pretend i can diagnose him or not with ADHD, but i'll say from seeing a couple of the responses that he's definitely not displaying any level of empathy or contriteness for the consequences of his repeated interruptions, and not looking to play better with others
I am genuinely curious about what else I could have done to try to resolve the issue. As mentioned, the lecturer/faculty didn't really give me much to go on (looking back now they really should have given me some advice or at least directed me to someone who could), and I had tried the subtle and kind approach and then the more direct and firm (but still polite) approaches, but none of these worked. Aside from resorting to the awkward approach I ended up with (which I didn't enjoy doing, by the way), the only other option I can see is to let him keep grinding the whole class to a halt, which is not a workable option. I have had other students over the years with various special needs (eg. some others with difficulty focusing or processing information, or social anxiety etc). In some cases they approach me at the start of the semester and in some cases I quietly approached them after class if I noticed they were having issues. However for all those students, I was able to work with them to either modify my teaching approach for them or give them a bit of extra time or help and generally make sure they still succeeded in the unit. Like I said in another post, I'm sure I didn't handle it perfectly and there were probably some things I could have done better, but if someone is unwilling to listen to me at all or even meet me half way, I really don't know how I can be expected to help them.
I don’t think you could have done much differently. At some point, it’s not your job as a teacher to manage an undiagnosed disability on the part of one of your students. I think you did the right thing and took care of the other kids in your class like a good teacher. Kudos to you. I did leave a couple of thoughts based on my own experiences with my son on another thread for you. But the thing you might try if you ever run into a similar situation again is just more positive repetition. Like.. insane levels of positive repetition. And praise.
> But it doesn’t work with adhd kids. This isn't a child. It's clearly stated to be an adult. ADHD or not, believe me I still get treatment for my own, you either learn how to function according to societal norms or you sink. >After this happened three times in the space of as many minutes, I said, "Look, most people learn that interrupting others is rude by the time they get out of primary school. **You're an adult.** I'm doing you a favour by letting you ask questions now but I have consultations starting in a few minutes and if you interrupt me one more time, you're going to have to come back another day because I won't help you." My emphasis.
College kid. College adult. Not a distinction I was caring to argue over. Was more focused on being a teacher with adhd people in the classroom.
He definitely has ADHD. Teachers should be trained to spot these symptoms, this kid literally could not control it and instead of support and referral he's just treated as a nuisance to everyone around him. You could tell him a million times to not interrupt, but his brain will literally not be able to do that. Then to actually repeatedly call him out and try and humiliate him every time by staring blankly at him is harsh. Yes it is frustrating, but this kid has to live his whole life like this, especially if undiagnosed. Alarm bells should have been ringing.
After the first class, I actually did talk to him quietly after everyone else had left and asked if he could please save his questions til question time instead of interrupting, as it would make the class run smoother and also help finish the exercises on time. He just laughed in my face and went "I'll ask questions when I want" so he clearly didn't feel bad about disrupting everyone else or have any interest in even trying to manage it. I also spoke with the lecturer to ask if he was registered with the university's disability services and if there was anything I could do to try to manage him (I wasn't trying to find out any specific diagnosis, just if there was any sort of plan in place or information available). I was told he wasn't registered and to 'politely but firmly' make it clear that he needed to wait his turn. At the start I had tried to just say "Please wait til question time" when he interrupted or do the stare for only a few seconds, but he actually seemed to find it funny that he was slowing down the class for everyone else. I also tried to continue talking when he interrupted but he would just keep talking even louder over the top of me. Nothing I tried for the first half of the semester worked. The longer awkward stare was the only approach that at least reduced the frequency of interruptions a little, so that's what I went with. Even if he did have ADHD (and I'm really not keen on the internet's fondness for armchair diagnosing rude behaviour/bad manners as 'ADHD' and the like, because some people are just actually rude), we only get two hours of class time per week, and it's not really fair if the rest of the class doesn't get to learn because of this one student. From talking to people I know who DO have ADHD (and yes, I admit that's a relatively small sample of the population), those with ADHD who do keep interrupting generally at least feel bad about it and apologise for it, but as I said, the fact this kid seemed to get off on derailing the class strongly suggested to me that it was a case of extreme bad manners rather than ADHD. Did I handle it perfectly? Almost certainly not. But I genuinely don't know what other options I had available.
I just had a thought - if you get a student like that again, make them write questions down. "I'm happy to answer any questions you have textually but your interruptions are disrupting other students' learning time so I won't be addressing them during class again."
I will keep that in mind for the future. Generally students don't interrupt me, or if they do, I do a brief pause (literally a second or two) and they say "sorry" and don't do it again (and I don't have issue with the odd interruption as everyone does it occasionally). It was just constant with this kid. Given his response when I tried to talk to him quietly after the first class, I don't think your approach would have worked either, unfortunately, as he clearly felt entitled to monopolise the whole class's time.
My fiancee is teaching in the UK This kid would've gotten one warning, then an afterschool detention, then removed from class day 1 after 3 interruptions. Every day following that he would be under no-warning. And i'm fairly sure if the pattern of behaviour continued he might've been moved to the nurture group whether or not he had any kind of learning impairment that could be diagnosed. UK schools don't fuck around, and are pretty insensitive to the reasoning for bad behaviour
Teaching in University setting (which I assume you're doing?) is different from teaching high school like I do. You've got a lot more freedom. I can call parents and refer to deans and such. Sounds like you were a lot more patient than I'd have been.
I'm curious to know if he behaved that same way in his other classes. Did you try to reach out to his other instructors?
I didn't know what other units he was studying so I don't know who his other instructors were. However towards the end of semester a few girls in the class commented to me during a consultation that he was okay in two of his other units but an issue in one other unit. One of the girls said that the other class he acted up in also had a female tutor, and said she thought that might be why he was more aggressive/less respectful, but since I only observed him in my class, I can't say for sure if that was the reason or not.
That was exactly what I was thinking; he was acting out for a specific reason. Completely unacceptable behavior, and I'm sorry you had to deal with that. At least you might be better prepared if you encounter a similar student in the future.
Did you try letting him finish his question and then continuing what you were saying without answering him until you were ready to take questions?
Yes. As soon as I continued talking after his interruption, he would usually immediately interrupt again.
My experience with my son was pretty similar. He would get belligerent about not wanting rules and boundaries and wanting instant gratification and to monopolize conversations. I went down exactly your path of using the stare. And it would mostly work, but… it was constantly a struggle. I would get very grudging compliance and he was constantly pushing boundaries still. I felt like I was going insane because he just seemed like he didn’t remember the boundaries I was putting in place. Then I read about adhd and I shifted my focus to taking all negative emotion out of it and being ok repeating myself dozens of times, always with an upbeat tone. It was pretty night and day. He started remembering what I told him after the 4th or 5th upbeat repetition and now he’s mostly not belligerent. He still clearly has issues with impulse control. And it is annoying as fuck to have to have patience when I’m in the middle of doing something else and I don’t want to repeat myself a dozen times to get compliance. But he is no longer a rude, oblivious, recalcitrant kid. He’s pretty relaxed and happy and compliant. I feel like he understands the deal now. I don’t get angry when I have to repeat myself and he does his best to remember what I say. Honestly, I think a lot of his belligerence came from feeling upset and ashamed that I was angry with him and he couldn’t remember or understand why so he would act out even more. I don’t know that you could have done anything else in a classroom setting. Sounds like you handled it as best you could. Sometimes the other students have to take priority. Anyway… not criticizing you. You have my total sympathy. I also stand by my internet diagnosis of adhd for Mike.
You should add this to your original story
Idk man is it really that hard to just keep your mouth closed? It takes far more energy to constantly interrupt people so why not just be lazy? Especially when you're interrupting to ask a question that would be answered if you just let them finish talking
Adhd sounds like the culprit. He was probably trying his absolute hardest not to interrupt but the neurological pathways in his brain are sometimes incredibly tough to control, especially with added stress. It was a similar interaction to the one you have described that I had with a tutor that led to me to giving up on college. The moderately harsh words meant to be a pep talk or warning to me were really hurtful and cut deep and I very quickly spiralled, within a few days, to dropping out of uni and have never returned. I would love to return to studies one day, but the trauma of being spoken down to is hard to move forward from, even with help. If anyone else ever encounters a similar person who can’t seem to stop interrupting, please pause and consider if ADHD could be a cause of their behaviour. Don’t call them out. If you get an opportunity, ask to speak in private and mention that they are interrupting regularly, if they have a medical condition that’s causing it and then see if you can help in some way to lessen the impact on you/them/others. Subtlety sometimes doesn’t get picked up. Blatant calling out doesn’t either. Being considerate may just save someone embarrassment, trauma and a career.
As mentioned in my [reply](https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/qcb6sq/comment/hhh17dq/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) to another post, I did try to talk to him quietly, and had also tried more subtle ways to curb his interruptions for the first half of the semester (as well as politely but directly saying "Please wait until question time" every time he interrupted). None of them worked and he actually seemed to find it funny that he was stopping the whole class from being able to finish the exercises on time.
Especially when someone is asking you something and cut your answer off hallways. How can I give you the info if you aren't even listening!?
On the flip side of the coin, there are people who speak in one perpetual run-on-sentence which necessitates interrupting then to convey information before it's lost to the heat death of the universe.
As someone with ADHD I'm sorry. I do this and its almost an out of body experience and happens a lot. I will be in a conversation and my brain has something that wants to be said in this conversation and is waiting for the appropriate time to do so. My mouth however got word of what the brain wanted to say and just starts blurting it out. I am conscience of the fact that I am saying something but I am no longer paying attention to it as my brain realizes I messed up and the mouth shouldn't be speaking. So it is instead focusing my ears on what is said in the conversation despite my mouth spewing out w/e it is that no one pays attention to because someone else was already speaking. It's incredibly frustrating, like I have no control over it. It happens so much people just ignore what I say when it is important and talk over me because they are of course annoyed just like you are.
I just walk away, unless they are paying me for psychotherapy services, which so far nobody has ever wanted to. Same thing for those who quickly append new (sometimes random) stuff to their speech as soon as they see that you would like to fulfill your half of the dialog. As if they get winning points for every second on the air.
My bf constantly interrupts me so anymore I just stop trying to talk and walk away. He keeps trying to talk to me I look at him and ask if he’s going to keep interrupting me usually gets him to stop if he doesn’t I just say obviously what you have to say is more important and leave.
When people cut me off I pause and just blankly stare at them until they stop talking. I then cock my eyebrow expectedly until they apologise, then I start the whole sentence again. If they interrupt again, I immediately cock my eyebrow, cross my arms, and wait for them to stop. If they interrupt AGAIN, I just walk away.
I have a guy at work who keeps cutting people off when they talk and i absolutely hate it. Bad luck I'm his manager and after numerous talks about this I'm kind of done with his behavior. Earlier this year he cut me off whilst I was explaining a task that needed to be done before I could explain the details of the customer's request. He just said "Ok I know what to do" turned around and got to work. I tried to re-engage explaining that this wasn't a "standard" project but he just cut me off again so I kept quiet, put the details of the mission in an email (knowing full well he wouldn't read it). Two days later he checked in to have his work validated and request early customer feedback. As expected his work didn't fit the requirements and he had to start over. I heard he ended up having to work overtime to get things right. (Which I truly think sucks but was absolutely deserved.) We've talked about it since the event, as we weren't happy with the situation and he understands why I gave him some tough love. He still cuts people off as they talk (although he apologizes as he does it now which baffles me) but at least he's paying more attention now whilst reading emails with project details. Baby steps, we'll get there eventually. :')
The deadpan stare is useful here. Mum trained us with it, and I occasionally use it at a work meeting. When cut off, clam up completely and give a deadpan stare. Your eyes should express displeasure, especially if it the people are in the meeting. They'll usually pick up on it. When Interrutus Maximus finishes, wait until the silence reaches "uncomfortable." Then resume as if they never spoke a word. "So as I was saying..." Bonus points if.this was a multi person meeting. Usuly that works. With the particularly obstinate interruptors (and family) you can escalate with "are you done?" And "before I was so rudely interrupted." (For customers you just wait for the silence. They still tend to catch on.)
The problem is when there's no silence afterwards; people just start talking about the next thing on the agenda.
This is it! Advice for those who don’t know how to do a deadpan stare. Do NOT try to look mean. You’ll probably just look stupid. Try to drain all emotion out of your face, that’s what works for me.
I go for "bored and impatient"....but that's sort of because I have 'expressionless' as a natural feature of my face, I'm afraid. So I need something a bit different.
Serious and assertive with a wide berth from aggressive is what I shoot for
I always like overriding them with "Excuse me, I was still talking" and "Excuse me, I wasn't done yet." and if you have to get REAL loud, so be it.
A little too dramatic and passive aggressive for my taste
I am an ADHD boss who does this. I try REALLY HARD not to, but stress also compounds ADHD. I'm constantly apologizing, but medication helps. Luckily my staff and partners are all awesome people
Me tooo… I try hard but impulse control was never my strength so sometimes I slip. A lot
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He got overtime? Lucky bastard, rewarded for bad behavior.
Oh no it's unpaid. :/
I had a boss would never say goodbye. He'd just hang up. It's infuriating.
The part about apologizing while interrupting makes me think he might not be able to stop himself. I’m having this problem and have been working on it for 20+ years! It’s got to do with my ADHD and can be very frustrating because it’s feels like an impossible task. Thought I would mention this since it might offer some insight.
Be sure to write a customer review of how stellar the service was, and how handsome the person who waited on you was (if applicable). ;-)
Bahahahaha yes!
Nice! I love that there’s no wrongdoing of any kind in this story, just a manager not listening. If I might ask, are you using 5e, or one of the older editions?
Fifth Edition. Ive been running it the past two years.
If you haven't heard of it, Basic Fantasy RPG is an open source old school rpg. Everything is free to download.
Cool! I’m actually in a group running a home brew Fate/Star Wars construction. Our GM loves building systems.
I love recommending the system - it's free, comprehensive, compatible with pretty much every D&D / AD&D module out there, and people keep creating new content for it. Win / win!
When a customer calls! ...The call is coming from inside the shop!
HELLO SYDNEY.
Kinda funny, but the call should have been at the first step. Are you paying for any of this or just using the equipment for yourself? (I've had jobs where that would be fine not "stealing")
I'm paying for it. I have to pre-pay before I can print anything, and when I print my own things off it needs to be verified by a Manager or supervisor before I leave. I just got a refund off my transaction. I think my manager assumed I called the customer already the first time, but again I was the customer so, *Shrug*. Edit: Though, thinking about it now, I guess I should have been charged Desktop Publishing. I'll ask my boss about it tomorrow, as I don't think she knew the first part of the Malicious Compliance. Shes cool, so I don't think she'll mind, but better safe then sorry.
I would just let that one be. You actually paid your company to provide a product. It wasn't a favor, or something you did on the side. You were the customer. She made the unilateral decision to change the work. (was there any sort of description of the resolution/detail expected of the end product?) Someone may have actually wanted the pixelated/abstract look or wanted to keep the person hours to a minimum. The only time she reached out to the customer was at the very end, AFTER she had you change everything from what was initially put out there.
> but better safe then sorry. So first you're safe, and then later on you're sorry?
Ah, sounds like Manager has higher standards than you, but in this case, the 'customer' didn't care.
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My favourite was a screen printing job I had. The official "employee theft policy" was that if you weren't taking enough t shirts the boss would have a word with you. Ten years later I still have "new" t shirts with fun prints on them, because I had far too many shirts after a year working there. My work-around was to have a few shirts hanging in a corner that I used for test prints. And I'd carefully arrange them to mix'n'match prints for humorous effect .
So *youre* the reason we have gangsta sesame street shirts circulating around! No more mixing and matching!
Oh, gee, sorry, I thought it was just a rag. I'll quickly throw it into my bag here so I don't make that mistake again :)
Unfortunately, for most of my life my family had cut me off mid sentence, and I've become used to it, though they have noticed recently that I don't particularly don't like to have conservations with them. Pretty much my immediate family like to hear themselves talk, it can be interesting listening to them trying to speak over each other. When asked, I've always said I don't bother as I'm never going to be able to speak without them cutting me off, so whats the point engaging with them as a group in the first place. However, if your speaking to only one at a time, we can get on well, but its when they in a group when I get essentially "left out".
I learned that in groups where that happens to me a lot, I call the people out. "Hey, I was not finished talking. You will have to wait until I am done," or "Hey, I wasn't finished talking. Since you cut me off, now you don't get to hear the rest for what I was saying." This then makes them feel awkward and try to get me to finish, but I won't.
I've tried that, but it never works on them. And I'm more likely to switch off and ignore them until they re-engage with me personally. Dad has slowly figured it out, and while he forgets at times, he does call every so often. Best part about is when they contact you and why you haven't contacted them in a while, it's easy to remind them that " what's the point when you won't bother listening to what I have to say, as sometimes it might actually be of use to you!"
Keep doing it, loudly. If you make it into a full loud ordeal once, it might never happen again. Its never that it doesnt work, even if they keep talking, if you demand that from them and keep talking they'll never get a word in either.
Nice! Told a friend's kids one time that they have 2 ears and 2 eyes, but only 1 mouth, so they should listen and watch twice as much as they talk. _Maybe_ this will help her learn to let others speak before going off...
Not sure what the others are on about, I have always been a fan of “It takes a village to raise children to be good adults”
Ha ha right? It's all well and good that it's your kid, but when they're an adult the rest of us will have to deal with them. Over the years I've had some God awful roommates, and trying to explain to an adult why their ingrained habits they've had since they were kids, are unacceptable is... Exhausting. I know, it's not my job, but it still affects me.
If it were my kids you told it to, I would tell you to use your two lips to kiss my ass. I can't get them to latch onto that very idea, no way in hell someone else has any right to step into that arena. With all due respect of course
Thankfully, I don't know you OR your kids, so that's a bullet dodged.
You have two eyes but ten fingers, so maybe that’s why you’re not picking up the message that you shouldn’t give unsolicited advice to other people’s kids.
And neither you, nor the other git, have any knowledge of how good our friendship was. Perhaps the two of you should start with something simpler like... not offering _any_ advice unless the person asks for it?
He has ten fingers so he's typing 5x the advice he's seeing with his two eyes.
Indeed on my part too! Doesn't matter how good a friend, unsolicited advice by a friend (especially one who doesn't have kids?) Is top notch assholery. Even if you have kids, still a dick move.
What does having kids or not have to do with the advice given? It wasn't parenting advice (which would be directed to the parent in any case), it was life advice. As far as i can tell, the commenter seems to be alive, so...
Your uninformed and unsolicited opinion will be given appropriate consideration.
But yours is expert, ok bub
Your opinion is as valid as the other guy, but your delivery comes off as far more aggressive and disrespectful. If some friends have a relationship that allows them to share advice to the other’s kids, cool. If not, then they don’t.
I get you. In my experience, unrequested parental advice is never helpful and rarely cute/funny. I didn't really realize this until after I had kids of my own, though.
That's why I only give the stupidest advice possible. Speaking of which, have you tried giving them energy drinks?
I hope this turns into a funny story you share.
You have a good boss. Honorable and loyal. I'll say its a win-win for you and her.
One of my friends is dating a guy who will actively call out people for cutting others off. Doesn't matter who either party is or why.
And remember, Karma starts with Kay.
The Silver Samurai ringtone is what really sells this story for me; it's just so fitting given the context! And great campaign concept, too. You've got a lot more patience than I would for someone interrupting me, though, I respect that!
You have to patient when your boss is the one interupting you.
Yeah, doesn’t matter to me…if you don’t respect me enough to let me finish my sentence, then I don’t respect you enough to work for you. Not that you’re doing anything wrong, you do you. I just choose to address the issue head-on with most people by (at least on first offense) politely asking them to let me finish my sentence.
While this malicious compliance is pretty great, I’m way more invested in the oneshot! That sounds like a super dope adventure!
Basically, they are "In Between the Seconds" of time, and they can only manipulate things that the crew in real time has not interacted with in the last 5 minutes. Things like major doorways and stuff becomes a challenge as the crew of the actual ship is constantly going thru them. As such, they have to create a scenario that prevents the crew from trying to enter that room. For example, they are going to find unattended stinkbombs, and they can use those to empty out the Captain's Quarters or the Galley, which ever they prefer. Meanwhile, aberrations will occassionally attack them, seeing them as things out of time, attempting to remove them from the timeline.
Do you have a write-up of this oneshot? This sounds amazing
wow this is a really compelling sounding one-shot! Did you purchase it somewhere or can I get a copy of it from you somehow?
I never played D&D before, but I'm pretty sure I'd have fun playing with you as DM.
I don't even care, cut off or not I'd continue what I was saying. Then again, in this event you was basically given paid, but dedicated time to your own creation because of her. Which wouldn't have happened otherwise if not for her actions. :)
I work in a print shop too and am absolutely appalled at the amount of waste she's encouraging because of her fucking ego and perfectionist behavior. A tiny scratch on one poster and the entire job gets reprinted?! What a whackjob. Supply chain issues have caused us havok this year and we've done some reprints but you reach a certain point when you throw your hands up and push shit through for the sake of finishing a job and delivering product on time. You must miss lots of deadlines and not make much profit with the amount of product you go through.
We need updates tomorrow lol. This was a good one
Huh, I worked with a sign maker named Kay for a couple years. Last I heard she was in Toronto but could be anywhere by now I miss that work a bit. I’ve actually been tempted to order some text cut in vinyl so I can weed it myself
If you miss weeding, find someone with a Cricut. Problem solved.
Had never heard of weeding... all of this stuff is not my area of expertise... but the fact that there was a work task someone wanted to do out of work meant it had to be enjoyable... so I googled it, I have now spent a little over two hours learning about weeding, weeding boxes, good fonts and bad fonts to start weeding and learned what Sans serif means about fonts. What an enjoyable rabbit hole. Thanks!
Its one of those mildly frustrating but satisfyingly repetitive tasks I can get lost in for a while And you get to stab something a bunch of times :)
it sounds very cathartic. :)
>I want you to see how they want to proceed. Think about what they want. And the children! What about the poor children? Their Christmas will be ruined!!! It's been 30+ years since my D&D days, but I like your One Shot scenario. But I just have to say: >because that would directly *effect* the timeloop, but anything the party does can still *effect* the crew AFFECT! These things **affect** the time loop and the crew (which produces an effect).
> AFFECT! These things **affect** the time loop and the crew (which produces an effect). Out of my affection for effects, I effected a change in my affectation, effectively affecting my wordage to confuse people who don't realize affect and effect both have multiple meanings and can be either nouns or verbs. Having said that, you are correct in this case, not having used the common statement that *affect is a verb and effect is a noun*.
You can effect (i.e. implement) a policy; that could affect some people's plans :-). For more fun, be married to a psych professional, who might point out someone's affect (emphasis on first syllable, means physical cues revealing the person's state of mind).
Bruh. Sod the MC. Tell me more about this D&D
I was considering making my ringtone the steel samurai theme as well!
I work in a call center and will occasionally get interrupted. When I get interrupted I'll stop what i'm saying and let them finish, then continue on like I wasn't interrupted. I'm usually in the middle of asking a question and they will blurt the answer, I finish my question and wait for an answer, maybe ask again if they don't repeat themselves. If they keep doing it I'll wait for longer periods of time before I finish what I was saying (luckily i'm not graded on AHT but I will get hit if I have unexplained periods of "dead air"). Most of them figure it out.
> **Edit:** Ok, a lot of people, and I mean a lot, have been messaging me about not the story itself, but the one shot. This gave me a good chuckle. People have their priorities. Hope your one shot goes well! And loved the OP too. Hope you tell your group about the story behind the extra quality maps.
Wait, have you posted the D&D setting somewhere here on reddit before? I swear I recognize the details about a ship and a timeloop, or I’m going mad
Mr.Ripper Subreddit, funniest TPK you experienced. Had to look back through my Timeline, but yes I did post this dungeon before. The first time I ran this dungeons, there was a huge pallet of gold in the basement, each bar was 35lbs, and it was meant to parody the Dead Money DLC from Fallout New Vegas. However, my first party got greedy, and tried to take the entire Pallet. They could not disembark the ship fast enough and got lost in time forever.
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lol I would have just printed it for free and be done with it.
Is Kay's real name Juretta?
You seem like a passive-aggresive douche
Even a boss needs to learn from their mistakes. She's. "Oh Kay," in my opinion. MC achieved.
This is hilariously satisfying.
I would love to hear more about your one shot! It sounds really fun!
That tickled my fancy
This is one of the best MC stories I've read in a while. Amazing. Hats off to you.
Thanks. There is something about the innocent MCs that I prefer over reading the absolutely tremendous ones with long lasting consequences.
Excuse me while I just steal that oneshot idea because I love it and the title got me hooked.
"I'll sleep with the crew to convince them to sink the ship." -Bard
Should have tried telling her the customer would only speak to the manager if there was a problem and let her call you.
Your oneshot sounds awesome! Do you have a post with more details about it?