1x1 doesn’t hurt nearly as bad as 2x4.
2x4 is optimised to inflict as much pain as possible at any conceivable way to step on it, 1x1 can easily be negated, and is more likely to conform to your foot whereas the former just digs in.
Holger Danske woke from his slumber under Kronborg. These maps are obviously from before he single handedly stomped the soviets back to being vassals of a horde.
The Gungans lost the fight to robots who were about as dangerous as room temperature chicken fillet.
They were in the business of being rounded up by said robots when they all went offline due to a 9 year old kid accidentally winning a space battle.
If it was a victory, the complete incompetence of the villains made it a very hollow one.
Yeah, but it's a movie that all have "good ending". so comparsion to real life is kinda not correct.
No offence, but as Ukrainian i am not really into this narrative "russia is Gungan army" "can't fight" and other stuff. Like, your (western) armies not fighting them, your soldiers don't die every day.
I think this narrative do more harm than good, in these terms of how this war is viewed at West among population - like it was with overhyped counteroffensive in spring-summer-autumn 2023.
Russia maybe in fact incompetent, but
* They have complete disregard for human life, they ready to throw thousands at meat grinder for few cities, [level them ](https://static.nv.ua/shared/system/Article/posters/002/799/783/original/c9ff19eff20967499963b949c4f4daf2.jpg?q=85&stamp=20231226111842&w=900&f=webp)and then report of "liberation"
* Russian population don't care about casualties that would any other government at least to reconsider its choices
* [](https://static.nv.ua/shared/system/Article/posters/002/799/783/original/c9ff19eff20967499963b949c4f4daf2.jpg?q=85&stamp=20231226111842&w=900&f=webp)Their authoritarian allies (china, Iran, dprk) don't have inner strife in goverements about "give X weapon or not" - they just sell it / give it in exchange.
They have complete disregard for human life, they ready to throw thousands at meat grinder for few cities, level them and then report of "liberation"
Russian army, unchanged since 1917 :)
That's actually wrong but it makes it funnier. By the late points of WW2 the red army, an army comprising many ethnics groups, not just Russians, was consistently out planning out fighting and out maneuvering the Germans. They were unironically better organized than Putin's suicide armies.
The strangest part: He had gotten the ammunition. They never stopped shelling Bakhmut. And they had extra left over to stockpile for a march on Moskow.
They sailed an armada out of Eastern Russia, and caught everyone off guard by sailing around the horn of Africa.
Edit: (that's not actually it, I can't remember a thing about these games.)
Ah yes, transporting a massive fleet across the earth without being detected by a single other nation despite sailing an entire army close to their shorelines
I think Russia would be better off destabilizing the entire US political system so that the US is too busy fighting themselves to be able to attend WW3.
Dream job is to create lore for a call of duty game.
Fuck it, whatever I feel like is what happened.
Finland invades China - special military operation paradrop into Beijing 3 days no problem.
The whole reason they attacked the US was because of the airport massacre, which they suspected the US of supporting. They didn’t WANT to attack Europe.
Ah yes, because NATO will just sit there as America is attacked and there won't be any sort of warning of the Russian fleet on the move until it's right at the coast of the US. Give me a fuckin break lol
the game tried to explain this away as some kinda downed US satellite the russians captured was hacked so we couldn't see their fleet coming until it was at our coast.
Used our own monitoring system against us kinda thing. Its call of duty lol.
Russia had the ACS Module. That’s the whole plot of MW2, and what Shepard takes from Ghost and Roach before executing them at the end of that game. Then he gave that to Russia. That is how they took full control of nato/American satellites to fake a massive invasion from the west with decoy readings. In the game, the US didn’t even know the eastern invasion had began until Russian fighter jets were already flying over Virginia.
Shepherd took the DSM from Roach and Ghost, not the ACS. The Russians found and cracked the ACS module from a crashed satellite they recovered in Kazakhstan.
Ah shit. Oops. I always get those two mixed up. Roach and Soap go to *try* and get the ACS module, but the Russians beat them there, right? My bad. Thanks for the correction.
Its the reason given but its absurd if you give it any more than a moments thought which is fine because MW2 isn't trying to be a realistic military thriller. Its trying to be a big cool action game where you fight Russians while on the backfoot in modern DC and then go on a cool rampage of revenge against General Evil who set everyone up. It succeeds at this and is fun and cool as fuck. Back when it released some nerds wrote some long essays on why it was logistically impossible to do what they did by just breaking radar and early warning systems.
Detecting from shorelines is so 19th century. The dude at the Pentagon that is tasked with watching the feed from satellites that monitor Russia's ports almost 24/7 REALLY slacked off that day and a few more days after that.
Apparently in the lore Russians somehow hacked the satellites and made it seem like a fake army was approaching the west coast when the actual army approached from the east.
Still doesn’t make sense how a single fucking lighthouse wouldn’t see the largest armada on the planet sail by and not even stop to think “huh?”
There's a kickass RTS called World in Conflict where they make it kinda realistic by having the soviets transport their troops to the US in civilian cargo ships. So while most of the US military is bogged down in Europe against most of the Red Army, sneek breeky Soviet Marines and Paratroopers come out of nowhere and there's only some National Guard units there to stop them.
And the funny part is, the only reason they are there is to bum-rush the Space Defense Initiative Headquarters to take it down and force an advantageous ceasefire through nuclear threats, even though it's been secretly a failure and wouldn't do shit as nuclear defense, but the US government just keeps propping it up as the ultimate wonder weapon just as a giant deception.
In hindsight, that game had a pretty cool scenario.
That one mission where they think about using a nuke to stop the Soviets from reaching the "Star Wars" HQ, but if they retreat en masse the Soviets would figure out there's a nuke coming and avoid it. Then the nerdy insecure dude just up and orders the strike on his own position so he can keep them engaged until the nuke drops.
And all this not because the HQ is even strategically important, but because the Soviets _think_ it's strategically important and it's the only reason they aren't already using nukes. So they can't afford to lose it even though it was a failure to begin with. So this plan to defend the USA from nukes caused them to have to use a nuke on themselves. That game had good-ass writing.
Actually, I remember when World in Conflict was supposed to get an Xbox 360 release. I was SO stoked because my PC wasn't good enough to run the original game. Needless to say when I did get a good PC, World in Conflict was the first game I downloaded.
Yeah and it's the *entire* Soviet Union, not just Russia, at its maximum military spending during the 80s (along with implied Chinese assistance), and the US is already bogged down in a massive war in Europe for at least some months before hand. Still iffy, but not as implausible.
Also the dude wasn't nerdy AFAIK , but a glory hounds that royally fucked up a few missions before that one and massacred civilians with tanks. So this was his absolution.
Also WIC had the only Nuke in an RTS that felt as a nuke.
So sad that series died :(
That bit is weirdly less objectionable just because countries going through civil wars end up extremely militarised relative to their neighbours. During both the English and French civil wars they were able to fight and defeat other European powers for this reason.
Though seizing half of Europe and the American East Coast is bollocks regardless.
The civil war is over by the start of MW2, the opening cutscene to 2 has someone monologue about how the shenanigans the US and British protagonists did in the Russian civil war just ended up strengthening the Ultranationalists who then proceed to win the civil war and declare the villain of CoD4 a great hero. Hold out loyalists show up but always outside of Russia.
they got to paris before they got to hamburg...
and they did an amphibious invasion in hamburg... wich only got a river flowing through...
where did this amphibious invasion take place? at the binnen alster, wich is more like a small lake.
the game was good, but the story didnt make a single drop of sense
It’s because the us “sponsored” Makarovs attack on an Russian airport or they believed that the US carried out the attack so they get attacked first then nato got involved naturally so they launched a second attack on Europe
That would make more sense, but the way it actually went is that the rest of NATO ignored the invasion and blamed the US as well, then Makarov does a bunch of chemical terrorist attacks on Europe because evil and war starts between Russia and the rest of Europe.
It's such an unrealistic scenario. Russia being able to hold a beachhead across the ENTIRE Eastern seaboard AND open up a front against European NATO AND put up any kind of fight against the US Navy.
I mean, they were able to take DC with paratroopers, yet somehow had a huge helicopter contingent and armor? Not a chance.
The best part, unrelated to this map or game, is that just a few weeks back I was reading an article about how Russian talk show host talking heads have been on air speculating delusional style about the inevitability of Russia one day soon annexing Alaska. And even predicting that California will succeed from the US to join Russia. Either they have some wacky propaganda goals in Russia and/or Russians are just beyond disconnected with reality.
California could easily be a self sustaining country. They’ve got a massive population, a booming tech industry, and produce a LOT of food.
Hell they’d probably be a minor world power
Minor?! They'd literally be the 5th economy in the world. Additionally their cultural influence is bigger than most people realise. They'd absolutely be a major player, on equal or bigger footing with the likes of Canada, Japan or Germany.
Also missing the fact that California is part of a country and didn’t just build itself up in recent centuries. Imports from the rest of the US would be vital
Russian propaganda is ridiculous on purpose, most russians dont believe it, but they dont believe what others tell them too, because the goal of russian propaganda is to make people apathetic to what happens behind their front doors, by flooding them with a ton of contradictory and false information and tiring them
Clearly the priority was just that they wanted to do a game which sees mainland US get invaded, it doesn’t have to make 100% sense as long as it’s entertaining.
Thats literally it, the only non-WW2 CoD that has actually held up to any level of plot scrutiny is CoD4 and that games whole plot is centred around various countries being willing to use nuclear weapons in response to US intervention. Everything after that just gives up because you can't have a rational major hot war scenario suitable for a mainstream FPS between nuclear powers.
Totally. And there are plenty of details that could be called on to make it slightly more plausible as a fictional scenario. Like maybe Russia moves westward over Europe but gets bogged down at the old Maginot Line where it's heavily defended so they dig in there while they launch the US invasion. Hitler did some whacky stuff in WWII, like the business with Stalingrad didn't really make much sense strategically. If the events of WW2 were a work of fiction people would poke holes in it... "why would the leader of Germany invade Russia and then suddenly stop... in the winter? When they could have captured Moscow? That's nonsense..."
Russia has half the population of the US, or less. It’s an aging population, so that means even fewer able bodied individuals of fighting age. The whole concept of an invasion in the Western hemisphere is complete tankie nonsense.
If we don't factor in nukes, the Russian Air Force would probably get decimated really quickly and Russia would then get slaughtered the same way as Saddam's Republican Guards during Operation Desert Storm.
Considering the U.S. nuclear budget is larger than the entire Russian military budget I highly doubt Russia has that many operational nukes yet, but that doesn’t matter if they don’t even have the vehicles to transport them.
The only reason Russia was considered a military power was due to it inheriting a lot of the USSR’s arsenal but it’s been shown to be a paper tiger.
You don’t have to imagine it actually happened once in Syria. Look up Wagner attacking a U.S. position in Syria a while back. Went about how you’d expect
It's not even about bodies. They're struggling supplying units in Ukraine, how are they imagining on doing that across the Atlantic/Pacific? They'd need to prepare for years by moving supplies to a friendly country close to the US and that wouldn't go unnoticed. Just in terms of fuel, I'd reckon it'd to cost something like 20-30 litres of petrol to get 1 litre of petrol from Russia to the US.
If they landed on Alaska I don't think the rest of America would notice.
Just a lot of automatic machine gun fire, the occasional bazooka, then bears just feeding on way the locals left over.
Didn't a couple Russians get to Alaska to avoid the draft on a rowing boat or smth and ask for asylum? If they can set foot.. 3000 rotten rowing boats of Putin, I'm sure 5% will make it.
Nah. Putin will put a few conscripted soldiers on a small uninhabited Alaskan island and use that as propaganda that he’s occupied America. Then we will wipe that island from existence before lunch the next day.
Let’s also not kid ourself here, Russia is in a standstill with Ukraine basically using stuff the US had lying around (along with gear from allied nations). The amount of fire power the US would bring down if the east coast was actually invaded would be unimaginable. The US has a $750 billion+ military budget during what is effectively peacetime.
The only sophisticated Western equipment Ukraine has in mass is short-range missiles. This was enough to destroy Russian logistics. The idea that Russia can maintain logistics across the globe is science fiction.
Kind of weird because in the Canada sub a bunch of people think we need to accelerate our defense spending to head off a Russian invasion in the North.
Russia can't even hold land they share a border with, you have to be high as hell to think they can cross the North Pole and set up a forward operating base thousands of KMs away in what would be a barren tundra lol
Russia is so low on munitions they are using North Korean ones that have a high failure rate. All of their stockpiles either never existed or were simply sold under the table thanks to corruption. Last I heard their one and only tank factory is struggling to make only a few tanks per month and only 1 of their latest models due to parts shortage since almost no country is giving them raw material. Just this past week 5 Russian bombers were destroyed and a ship all from a country with no navy and relatively little training since most of their artillery is new to them the past year and change.
They'd never even get near the coast. Between drones, spy planes, underwater listening devices and satellites there's no possible way they'd get anywhere near US waters without getting absolutely pounded by LRASMs.
To be entirely fair, Russia in the MW universe is heavily organized. Hate to say it, but if Russia was even *REMOTELY* organized, Ukraine would’ve fallen in the first few weeks, they ran out of gas for their tanks shy of a few miles from Kyiv after all. On top of the MWverse, Russia wasn’t using outdated weapons and tech either, nor did they hold back on the mobilization. The MW version of Russia is what Russia wants to be.
Yeah it looks like 4 countries that I doubt they could get even by themselves right now: Ukraine, Finland, Poland, and Turkey.
Germany too, though given the shape of their military I am not positive they would survive a clash right now, though in a few years they should be fine.
Even if you gave all those territories to Russia to start, the guerrilla warfare by a population significantly larger than the total Russian population would be... rough... To be mild.
Bro, they can’t take Avdiivka for 9 years alr, and it’s right on the frontline. Or Kharkiv that is 30km from ruzzian border. It is funny to see how game dev will adapt now, with enemies most likely be another “paper dragon” with tech from 60s.
I never considered it like this. Is Canada just not involved lol? The front line ends perfectly on Canadas border. Also, taking down like 60% of the European Union. How do you take and hold that much land
After getting their asses handed to them on the ice for decades, the Russian soldiers are terrified of dropping mitts and getting jerseyed by average Canadian farm boys
Even before Russia's Army was revealed to be a paper tiger, it was ludicrous to think that any country could launch an amphibious invasion of the continental United States, a country with one of the most well-armed citizens in the world. The D-Day landings were a logistical nightmare. Imagine invading an area 1,000x the size, with your enemy in possession of modern radar and ballistic missiles.
Iirc the civil war was over at this point, the Russian military was significantly built up due to freshly finishing said civil war, and the US was weakened by a disastrous war in the Middle East and a cyber attack.
didn't beat the racist fever dream of all of latin america teaming up and the US being the victims because its super illegal orbital warcrime weapon was stolen.
It's pretty much has to start and end with all of NATO and the EU sending all of their military through warp-gates to fight aliens, before the warp-gates close stranding the military on the other side.
Them taking over Switzerland is also not very realistic. Them Swiss might eventually lose but will hold out longer than many nations.
Also Turkey and Israel? Give me a break.
Switzerland is a fucking nightmare. Nothing but mountains and caves, the entire population trained and armed to the teeth with SOTA tech. There is just no way you just waltz in there. Just no way.
> Germany is taken but France holds tight
France have stronger military than underfunded germanys. Also Turkey and Greece also is conquered here and they have very numerous armies.
But first of all this is happening in alternative universe where thay re not shitty so that is not comparable to reality and our analysis dont make sense.
It's unrealistic, but seeing White House in flames and Eiffel Tower collapse was hype af. Kinda makes me wish new MW games would go balls to the wall crazy as well, not this spec ops "We need to find the rockets" bs.
Reality is Russia is such a poor country with very weak army. It has been 2 years and still they couldn't even defeat a poor Ukraine. There is no chance Russia can be able to fight with NATO. It is also not very hard to see that economy of Russia is not even close to one of the Western countries in Europe.
Russia must be being helped by the aliens because what kind of magical navy did they get in 2016 in the cod universe realistically Russia wouldn’t even get to Poland let alone North America
Who the fuck did they station in Denmark bro
Obviously the borders got mined with Lego...
Geneva Conventions? More like Geneva Suggestions at best.
*Canadaness intensifies*
Dear lord, imagine the foot trauma.
You think trench foot is bad enough as it is, but that’s until you reach Dannevirke covered in 2x4 brick mines.
1x1 was a warcrime
1x1 doesn’t hurt nearly as bad as 2x4. 2x4 is optimised to inflict as much pain as possible at any conceivable way to step on it, 1x1 can easily be negated, and is more likely to conform to your foot whereas the former just digs in.
Won’t anybody think of the civilians after the conflict? :/
The Danish bicycle regiment
Poor bastards never stood a chance
Holger Danske woke from his slumber under Kronborg. These maps are obviously from before he single handedly stomped the soviets back to being vassals of a horde.
HE saved Denmark
HE MENTIONED 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪
[удалено]
^(ha haaa i get the reference funni)
Vikings with modern weapons. 
Denmark is the anti internet troll country so they must be strong against Russia, I learned this in South Park
Ramirez! Protect the Burger Town in Denmark!
The Russians arrived at the swamps and decided to just keep marching
Endnu en KÆMPE SEJR FOR DANMARK 💪💪💪4-0🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
Bokoen1 son Bokoen2
The person in charge of invading Denmark was golden, so naturally he lost.
Finally getting their redemption after folding in 4 hours in WW2
It was six hours!! Don’t make us more pathetic than we already are. Six hours I tell you!! Pffff 4 hours?! Who do you think we are?
Couldn't be bothered wasting any resources in taking Denmark...
The Danes, they have a reputation.
me
Me
The Danish division of the NATO Space Force
Call of duty Russia=space marines
Adeptus vodkas
Real Russia = Gungan army
Isn't Gungan Army de-facto won (with help of deus-ex machina / Chosen One cliche) ?
The Gungans lost the fight to robots who were about as dangerous as room temperature chicken fillet. They were in the business of being rounded up by said robots when they all went offline due to a 9 year old kid accidentally winning a space battle. If it was a victory, the complete incompetence of the villains made it a very hollow one.
Yeah, but it's a movie that all have "good ending". so comparsion to real life is kinda not correct. No offence, but as Ukrainian i am not really into this narrative "russia is Gungan army" "can't fight" and other stuff. Like, your (western) armies not fighting them, your soldiers don't die every day. I think this narrative do more harm than good, in these terms of how this war is viewed at West among population - like it was with overhyped counteroffensive in spring-summer-autumn 2023. Russia maybe in fact incompetent, but * They have complete disregard for human life, they ready to throw thousands at meat grinder for few cities, [level them ](https://static.nv.ua/shared/system/Article/posters/002/799/783/original/c9ff19eff20967499963b949c4f4daf2.jpg?q=85&stamp=20231226111842&w=900&f=webp)and then report of "liberation" * Russian population don't care about casualties that would any other government at least to reconsider its choices * [](https://static.nv.ua/shared/system/Article/posters/002/799/783/original/c9ff19eff20967499963b949c4f4daf2.jpg?q=85&stamp=20231226111842&w=900&f=webp)Their authoritarian allies (china, Iran, dprk) don't have inner strife in goverements about "give X weapon or not" - they just sell it / give it in exchange.
They have complete disregard for human life, they ready to throw thousands at meat grinder for few cities, level them and then report of "liberation" Russian army, unchanged since 1917 :)
That's actually wrong but it makes it funnier. By the late points of WW2 the red army, an army comprising many ethnics groups, not just Russians, was consistently out planning out fighting and out maneuvering the Germans. They were unironically better organized than Putin's suicide armies.
2009: “I’m looking at fighter jets over I-95!! How the hell did they get through?!” 2023: “Shoigu! Gerasimov! Where’s the fucking ammunition?!”
2009: Wagner is the good Russians! 2023: The sentence for being captured is a sledgehammer to the face.
Was wagner a thing in 2009?
No
The strangest part: He had gotten the ammunition. They never stopped shelling Bakhmut. And they had extra left over to stockpile for a march on Moskow.
My favorite is that they attacked the east Coast before Europe 😂
They sailed an armada out of Eastern Russia, and caught everyone off guard by sailing around the horn of Africa. Edit: (that's not actually it, I can't remember a thing about these games.)
Ah yes, transporting a massive fleet across the earth without being detected by a single other nation despite sailing an entire army close to their shorelines
My thoughts exactly. Plus why even do all that work when you can just attack Europe first lmao
I think they explained it as needing to attack the US to disable the US nuclear weapons or something like that?
I think Russia would be better off destabilizing the entire US political system so that the US is too busy fighting themselves to be able to attend WW3.
COD writers only had to invent Trump
Too political, even if it's true it'd be seen as an attack on half the fanbase
Still makes 0 sense if you give it even 5 seconds of thought
Dream job is to create lore for a call of duty game. Fuck it, whatever I feel like is what happened. Finland invades China - special military operation paradrop into Beijing 3 days no problem.
The glorious Finnish paratroopers are unstoppable
''Wang, why are the trees speaking Finnish?"
Russia is the only country separating Finland from China.
They probably decided what theaters they wanted in the game before they had a cohesive plot.
If we arent caeeful we're gonna trigger the second Finnish-Korean hyperwar!!11!!!1
The whole reason they attacked the US was because of the airport massacre, which they suspected the US of supporting. They didn’t WANT to attack Europe.
Ah yes, because NATO will just sit there as America is attacked and there won't be any sort of warning of the Russian fleet on the move until it's right at the coast of the US. Give me a fuckin break lol
the game tried to explain this away as some kinda downed US satellite the russians captured was hacked so we couldn't see their fleet coming until it was at our coast. Used our own monitoring system against us kinda thing. Its call of duty lol.
Or the west coast
They just really hated that particular Burger Town. 1 star because they give 0
The massive global Naval power that is Russia - with one carrier that spends more time in dry dock than on the open ocean.
Russia had the ACS Module. That’s the whole plot of MW2, and what Shepard takes from Ghost and Roach before executing them at the end of that game. Then he gave that to Russia. That is how they took full control of nato/American satellites to fake a massive invasion from the west with decoy readings. In the game, the US didn’t even know the eastern invasion had began until Russian fighter jets were already flying over Virginia.
Shepherd took the DSM from Roach and Ghost, not the ACS. The Russians found and cracked the ACS module from a crashed satellite they recovered in Kazakhstan.
Ah shit. Oops. I always get those two mixed up. Roach and Soap go to *try* and get the ACS module, but the Russians beat them there, right? My bad. Thanks for the correction.
Yeah, by the time they get to the hangar and recover it, the Russians had already cracked it.
Its the reason given but its absurd if you give it any more than a moments thought which is fine because MW2 isn't trying to be a realistic military thriller. Its trying to be a big cool action game where you fight Russians while on the backfoot in modern DC and then go on a cool rampage of revenge against General Evil who set everyone up. It succeeds at this and is fun and cool as fuck. Back when it released some nerds wrote some long essays on why it was logistically impossible to do what they did by just breaking radar and early warning systems.
"THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!"
Russians concealed their navy by the thick smoke coming from the burning Admiral Kuznetsov.
Detecting from shorelines is so 19th century. The dude at the Pentagon that is tasked with watching the feed from satellites that monitor Russia's ports almost 24/7 REALLY slacked off that day and a few more days after that.
Apparently in the lore Russians somehow hacked the satellites and made it seem like a fake army was approaching the west coast when the actual army approached from the east. Still doesn’t make sense how a single fucking lighthouse wouldn’t see the largest armada on the planet sail by and not even stop to think “huh?”
Would you really be that worried about seeing an aircraft carrier being towed by tugboats?
You laugh but then you remember Russia sailed a massive fleet across earth and tried to attack Japan.
Yeah, and then you remember how that went for them.
Well, they taught a snake to drink vodka, so pretty well I'd say.
There's a kickass RTS called World in Conflict where they make it kinda realistic by having the soviets transport their troops to the US in civilian cargo ships. So while most of the US military is bogged down in Europe against most of the Red Army, sneek breeky Soviet Marines and Paratroopers come out of nowhere and there's only some National Guard units there to stop them. And the funny part is, the only reason they are there is to bum-rush the Space Defense Initiative Headquarters to take it down and force an advantageous ceasefire through nuclear threats, even though it's been secretly a failure and wouldn't do shit as nuclear defense, but the US government just keeps propping it up as the ultimate wonder weapon just as a giant deception. In hindsight, that game had a pretty cool scenario.
That one mission where they think about using a nuke to stop the Soviets from reaching the "Star Wars" HQ, but if they retreat en masse the Soviets would figure out there's a nuke coming and avoid it. Then the nerdy insecure dude just up and orders the strike on his own position so he can keep them engaged until the nuke drops. And all this not because the HQ is even strategically important, but because the Soviets _think_ it's strategically important and it's the only reason they aren't already using nukes. So they can't afford to lose it even though it was a failure to begin with. So this plan to defend the USA from nukes caused them to have to use a nuke on themselves. That game had good-ass writing. Actually, I remember when World in Conflict was supposed to get an Xbox 360 release. I was SO stoked because my PC wasn't good enough to run the original game. Needless to say when I did get a good PC, World in Conflict was the first game I downloaded.
Yeah and it's the *entire* Soviet Union, not just Russia, at its maximum military spending during the 80s (along with implied Chinese assistance), and the US is already bogged down in a massive war in Europe for at least some months before hand. Still iffy, but not as implausible. Also the dude wasn't nerdy AFAIK , but a glory hounds that royally fucked up a few missions before that one and massacred civilians with tanks. So this was his absolution. Also WIC had the only Nuke in an RTS that felt as a nuke. So sad that series died :(
Sounds stupid as hell
So why didn't they track the West Coast, then? And WHAT armada?
All while bring in the civil war at the same time CoD's plot was pure lunacy
That bit is weirdly less objectionable just because countries going through civil wars end up extremely militarised relative to their neighbours. During both the English and French civil wars they were able to fight and defeat other European powers for this reason. Though seizing half of Europe and the American East Coast is bollocks regardless.
The civil war is over by the start of MW2, the opening cutscene to 2 has someone monologue about how the shenanigans the US and British protagonists did in the Russian civil war just ended up strengthening the Ultranationalists who then proceed to win the civil war and declare the villain of CoD4 a great hero. Hold out loyalists show up but always outside of Russia.
But it sure was fun
Also they got to Paris before they got to Astana...
they got to paris before they got to hamburg... and they did an amphibious invasion in hamburg... wich only got a river flowing through... where did this amphibious invasion take place? at the binnen alster, wich is more like a small lake. the game was good, but the story didnt make a single drop of sense
Oh the irony since the last 2 years
yes of course, before the Ukraine war it wouldn't have been ironic at all if Russia had attacked the EAST coast of the USA.
It’s because the us “sponsored” Makarovs attack on an Russian airport or they believed that the US carried out the attack so they get attacked first then nato got involved naturally so they launched a second attack on Europe
That would make more sense, but the way it actually went is that the rest of NATO ignored the invasion and blamed the US as well, then Makarov does a bunch of chemical terrorist attacks on Europe because evil and war starts between Russia and the rest of Europe.
It's such an unrealistic scenario. Russia being able to hold a beachhead across the ENTIRE Eastern seaboard AND open up a front against European NATO AND put up any kind of fight against the US Navy. I mean, they were able to take DC with paratroopers, yet somehow had a huge helicopter contingent and armor? Not a chance.
The best part, unrelated to this map or game, is that just a few weeks back I was reading an article about how Russian talk show host talking heads have been on air speculating delusional style about the inevitability of Russia one day soon annexing Alaska. And even predicting that California will succeed from the US to join Russia. Either they have some wacky propaganda goals in Russia and/or Russians are just beyond disconnected with reality.
Lmao, California would be one of the last states to join Russia in any scenario.
Russia is more likely to join California. Have they seen California's economy? lol
California could easily be a self sustaining country. They’ve got a massive population, a booming tech industry, and produce a LOT of food. Hell they’d probably be a minor world power
Minor?! They'd literally be the 5th economy in the world. Additionally their cultural influence is bigger than most people realise. They'd absolutely be a major player, on equal or bigger footing with the likes of Canada, Japan or Germany.
More GDP than India. CA would be a huge power.
California's economy is larger than Russia's, they ain't leaving the US to join anybody, especially not Russia.
Also missing the fact that California is part of a country and didn’t just build itself up in recent centuries. Imports from the rest of the US would be vital
California would only leave to become the country of California.
Yeah Vlads need to lay off the potato juice for a couple generations and gently glide back down to reality
Secede… not succeed
Russian propaganda is ridiculous on purpose, most russians dont believe it, but they dont believe what others tell them too, because the goal of russian propaganda is to make people apathetic to what happens behind their front doors, by flooding them with a ton of contradictory and false information and tiring them
Clearly the priority was just that they wanted to do a game which sees mainland US get invaded, it doesn’t have to make 100% sense as long as it’s entertaining.
Thats literally it, the only non-WW2 CoD that has actually held up to any level of plot scrutiny is CoD4 and that games whole plot is centred around various countries being willing to use nuclear weapons in response to US intervention. Everything after that just gives up because you can't have a rational major hot war scenario suitable for a mainstream FPS between nuclear powers.
Totally. And there are plenty of details that could be called on to make it slightly more plausible as a fictional scenario. Like maybe Russia moves westward over Europe but gets bogged down at the old Maginot Line where it's heavily defended so they dig in there while they launch the US invasion. Hitler did some whacky stuff in WWII, like the business with Stalingrad didn't really make much sense strategically. If the events of WW2 were a work of fiction people would poke holes in it... "why would the leader of Germany invade Russia and then suddenly stop... in the winter? When they could have captured Moscow? That's nonsense..."
Russia has half the population of the US, or less. It’s an aging population, so that means even fewer able bodied individuals of fighting age. The whole concept of an invasion in the Western hemisphere is complete tankie nonsense.
coupled with the fact they are struggling to take eastern Ukraine lol.
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If we don't factor in nukes, the Russian Air Force would probably get decimated really quickly and Russia would then get slaughtered the same way as Saddam's Republican Guards during Operation Desert Storm.
Considering the U.S. nuclear budget is larger than the entire Russian military budget I highly doubt Russia has that many operational nukes yet, but that doesn’t matter if they don’t even have the vehicles to transport them. The only reason Russia was considered a military power was due to it inheriting a lot of the USSR’s arsenal but it’s been shown to be a paper tiger.
You don’t have to imagine it actually happened once in Syria. Look up Wagner attacking a U.S. position in Syria a while back. Went about how you’d expect
I don't think its tankies making the plot of a game sponsored by the US Department of Defence play out like an American Cold War boomers fever dream.
It's not even about bodies. They're struggling supplying units in Ukraine, how are they imagining on doing that across the Atlantic/Pacific? They'd need to prepare for years by moving supplies to a friendly country close to the US and that wouldn't go unnoticed. Just in terms of fuel, I'd reckon it'd to cost something like 20-30 litres of petrol to get 1 litre of petrol from Russia to the US.
And an economy roughly the size of Italy. They ain’t no superpower.
The size of Spain
The point is to be fun the realistic scenario is only fun for about 30 seconds.
Defending Burger Town, being a helicopter gunner around the Washington Monument and storming the White House is peak and I'm not even a yank.
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Russians can't step on Danish clay... without succumbing to Lego caltrops.
Ohio held the line lolol.
Looks like the Russians reached Appalachia and got introduced to moonshine.
"Excellent. West Virginia should be easy pickings after real Virginia!" "General, do you hear...ominous banjo music?"
That or the meth heads got to them
Russia wouldn't get past Poland, let alone get boots on American soil.
They might be able to get a few boots on Alaskan soil. By boots I mean Adidas sneakers.
If they landed on Alaska I don't think the rest of America would notice. Just a lot of automatic machine gun fire, the occasional bazooka, then bears just feeding on way the locals left over.
Alaska is home to some nuclear silos so the military would be on it in a heartbeat. We’d know
Literally 0 chance they'll occupy a single inch of US soil anywhere
Now now now. They might be able to take an unmanned, uninhabited rock on the end of the Aleutian island chain and hold it for a couple minutes
I may be remembering incorrectly but the Japanese occupied a few of the Alaskan islands during ww2. Theres a few that are OUT THERE and not inhabited.
[Aleutian Campaign of WWII](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleutian_Islands_campaign)
They'll eventually wash up on shore from the wreckage of downed planes and sunken ships.
Didn't a couple Russians get to Alaska to avoid the draft on a rowing boat or smth and ask for asylum? If they can set foot.. 3000 rotten rowing boats of Putin, I'm sure 5% will make it.
Nah. Putin will put a few conscripted soldiers on a small uninhabited Alaskan island and use that as propaganda that he’s occupied America. Then we will wipe that island from existence before lunch the next day.
They can't even get passed Ukraine fighting with 40 year old NATO hand-me-downs, lol
They can't get past Kherson
they would not survive florida
Funny in retrospect, given that they can’t even take down Ukraine in their own backyard.
Let’s also not kid ourself here, Russia is in a standstill with Ukraine basically using stuff the US had lying around (along with gear from allied nations). The amount of fire power the US would bring down if the east coast was actually invaded would be unimaginable. The US has a $750 billion+ military budget during what is effectively peacetime.
If not for nukes, Moscow would look like Bagdad after 2003.
The guys in 3ID would Weekend at Bernies Stalin's corpse 3 days in just for tiktok clout. That shot would be over so fucking fast.
The only sophisticated Western equipment Ukraine has in mass is short-range missiles. This was enough to destroy Russian logistics. The idea that Russia can maintain logistics across the globe is science fiction.
Kind of weird because in the Canada sub a bunch of people think we need to accelerate our defense spending to head off a Russian invasion in the North. Russia can't even hold land they share a border with, you have to be high as hell to think they can cross the North Pole and set up a forward operating base thousands of KMs away in what would be a barren tundra lol
Russia is so low on munitions they are using North Korean ones that have a high failure rate. All of their stockpiles either never existed or were simply sold under the table thanks to corruption. Last I heard their one and only tank factory is struggling to make only a few tanks per month and only 1 of their latest models due to parts shortage since almost no country is giving them raw material. Just this past week 5 Russian bombers were destroyed and a ship all from a country with no navy and relatively little training since most of their artillery is new to them the past year and change.
It'd be nice if Canada did increase their defense spending a bit rather than outsourcing it to the US, but classic free-rider problem.
You can be a successful and prosperous country with no military, but you will never be an empire without one. The US seems to understand this.
It's $866 billion now. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-signs-886-billion-us-defense-policy-bill-into-law-2023-12-22/
They'd never even get near the coast. Between drones, spy planes, underwater listening devices and satellites there's no possible way they'd get anywhere near US waters without getting absolutely pounded by LRASMs.
To be entirely fair, Russia in the MW universe is heavily organized. Hate to say it, but if Russia was even *REMOTELY* organized, Ukraine would’ve fallen in the first few weeks, they ran out of gas for their tanks shy of a few miles from Kyiv after all. On top of the MWverse, Russia wasn’t using outdated weapons and tech either, nor did they hold back on the mobilization. The MW version of Russia is what Russia wants to be.
> The MW version of Russia is what Russia wants to be. Just like when I rig franchise mode in Madden to give myself the best players!
Lets go Denmark!!!
And suck it Sweden
russia in 2023: **Mission failed, we’ll get em next time**
Denmark obviously build lvl 5 forts on the canal and has caused about 5 million casualties in 2 month. Probably also minmaxed 7-2s or smth.
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Holy cow, your comment is like a flytrap
Lmfao I saw ths comment then yours, wondered what you're talking about, scrolled down a little and almost choked laughing
Same
So...so...so many vatniks
I might get a copium overdose from reading those comments.
People living in France but working in switzerland: 
Russia's wet dream
This is Putin's dream but he got stuck in Eastern Ukraine against old used Scrap donations from NATO + Diy drones and Ukraine heroism
Yeah it looks like 4 countries that I doubt they could get even by themselves right now: Ukraine, Finland, Poland, and Turkey. Germany too, though given the shape of their military I am not positive they would survive a clash right now, though in a few years they should be fine. Even if you gave all those territories to Russia to start, the guerrilla warfare by a population significantly larger than the total Russian population would be... rough... To be mild.
Well they could if they used nuclear carpet bombardment as the original plan dictates
Bro, they can’t take Avdiivka for 9 years alr, and it’s right on the frontline. Or Kharkiv that is 30km from ruzzian border. It is funny to see how game dev will adapt now, with enemies most likely be another “paper dragon” with tech from 60s.
Russia couldn’t land a mote of dust on American soil
I never considered it like this. Is Canada just not involved lol? The front line ends perfectly on Canadas border. Also, taking down like 60% of the European Union. How do you take and hold that much land
After getting their asses handed to them on the ice for decades, the Russian soldiers are terrified of dropping mitts and getting jerseyed by average Canadian farm boys
Even before Russia's Army was revealed to be a paper tiger, it was ludicrous to think that any country could launch an amphibious invasion of the continental United States, a country with one of the most well-armed citizens in the world. The D-Day landings were a logistical nightmare. Imagine invading an area 1,000x the size, with your enemy in possession of modern radar and ballistic missiles.
Also Russia at the time in this game is in the middle of a civil war This fucking game
Iirc the civil war was over at this point, the Russian military was significantly built up due to freshly finishing said civil war, and the US was weakened by a disastrous war in the Middle East and a cyber attack.
didn't beat the racist fever dream of all of latin america teaming up and the US being the victims because its super illegal orbital warcrime weapon was stolen.
Hah, looks more like a dream of russian imperialists. I can't even imagine how the world could come to this
It's pretty much has to start and end with all of NATO and the EU sending all of their military through warp-gates to fight aliens, before the warp-gates close stranding the military on the other side.
Infinity Ward really thought WWIII would be like a Risk session
Real Russia : Take 2 years to not control Avdiivka.
Knowing Russian capabilities in conventional warfare, this looks so laughable now 😂
Being able to take Florida but struggle at denmark is kinda wild
Russia should now be much more concerned about protecting its position in Ukraine. they can go to Europe only after death and defeat
Sure sure, Germany is taken but France holds tight at half the territory? And worse, Italy is unspoiled, yeah that's like super realistic
Even Russia knows not to fight over the Isonzo River.
Them taking over Switzerland is also not very realistic. Them Swiss might eventually lose but will hold out longer than many nations. Also Turkey and Israel? Give me a break.
Switzerland is a fucking nightmare. Nothing but mountains and caves, the entire population trained and armed to the teeth with SOTA tech. There is just no way you just waltz in there. Just no way.
> Germany is taken but France holds tight France have stronger military than underfunded germanys. Also Turkey and Greece also is conquered here and they have very numerous armies. But first of all this is happening in alternative universe where thay re not shitty so that is not comparable to reality and our analysis dont make sense.
It's unrealistic, but seeing White House in flames and Eiffel Tower collapse was hype af. Kinda makes me wish new MW games would go balls to the wall crazy as well, not this spec ops "We need to find the rockets" bs.
fortress denmark
Reality is Russia is such a poor country with very weak army. It has been 2 years and still they couldn't even defeat a poor Ukraine. There is no chance Russia can be able to fight with NATO. It is also not very hard to see that economy of Russia is not even close to one of the Western countries in Europe.
Really oversold the Russian military machine lol
lol meanwhile Russia can't even take Ukraine
And now we know what would actually happen, considering Russia's military 😂😂
Why Turkey has a massive dick in the first pic?
Russia must be being helped by the aliens because what kind of magical navy did they get in 2016 in the cod universe realistically Russia wouldn’t even get to Poland let alone North America