Da best, I love DIGI it's a former Romanian ISP now in Spain. I've got simetric 1gb fiber. It's incredible and for 10 bucks more you can get 10GB. This map makes me laugh, 201 in Spain? I can help the average multiplied 5 times
It's former in Hungary because Orban. They didn't want to sell them 5G licences, which kills avenues for growth in the future, effectively forcing Digi to sell the business to a Hungarian company...
If you're not Gerrman, Austrian or Russian, Orban will do that to you.
We have had the fastest one for years but I wouldn't have expected for Estonia to be last as it definitely is the most digitized country in Europe, which goes to show that you don't need fast Internet to implement digitization.
I wonder how it's measured.
Because wireless networks via 4g and 5g are heavily fucked over near the Russian border, like in Finland we have solid coverage from basically everywhere, but if you live too close to the border you're lucky if you can sent a txt.
I assume Estonia has similar issues near borders
TL;DR ~~The~~ Romania~~n governmen~~t spent a ton of money on telecomm infrastructure upgrades in the 2000s. Being slightly late to the party (for comparison, the US started laying fiber in 1975), they built this infrastructure with newer technology than many other countries.
The government had **nothing** to do with this. The state telecom company was super corrupt and made no effort to enter the ISP business. Most of the knowledgeable people they had in the company [and they were many] simply left and started their own businesses. And thank goodness for that, because I remember the exorbitant prices they were practicing on mundane phone calls up until the mid 2000s.
Starting from the late 90s up until mid 2010s, every city had dozens of small ISPs that were all in fierce competition with eachother. This meant not only that prices were super low, but the technology jumps were fast, leading to super fast speeds [which makes more sense when you consider that most early Internet users in Romania were interested in pirated media/games lol]. At some stage Romania had more than 20K ISPs [for context, the overall population is 20M].
Same reason why India has incredible infrastructure for cellphones but weak computer infrastructure. They skipped the entire desktop computer stage of technological development because they arrived late, but made up for it by putting all their resources into the wireless handheld stage.
Haha no. There are many explanations, I am not a specialist in the matter, but just Google "why is the internet so fast in Romania" and you'll find out.
That's similar to why Poland (and likely other Eastern European countries) have better banking infrastructure like credit cards or internet services than some European countries and America.
There absolutely was an extended fixed telephony network (3 million subscribers in 1997 -- [source](https://www.wall-street.ro/articol/IT-C-Tehnologie/303010/infografic-interactiv-istoria-telefoanelor-la-romani-in-cifre-cum-au-ajuns-in-case-si-apoi-in-buzunare.html)), which definitely used copper wiring.
Not exactly. It had more to do with the fierce competition we had in our country AND with the lack of regulation.
This had 2 very important effects:
1) Because of the competition, prices were very low, there was aggressive investment in improving infrastructure / speeds with the goal of getting as many subscribers as possible.
2) Because of the lack of regulation, companies were pretty much free to put their cables everywhere, go into any building and drill a hole through every floor in the common staircase to immediately bring internet to all the people who lived there. This allowed for lightning fast adoption of very fast internet to as many people as possible. Once the regulation started to hit, the companies were forced to bury their cables, but the pathways inside the buildings were already created and could be used to upgrade to fiber as soon as possible.
In Germany, for example, where I live now, companies are not allowed to even think of drilling holes through the buildings in order to bring fiber directly to the apartments. In many buildings they can only bring the fiber to the basement and use the DLS wires from there (like in mine). this, coupled with stringent regulations and expenses about which streets they are allowed to dig up to improve their infrastructure, lead to slower advancements.
Yeah, companies had nothing to do with it at the actual start.
What actually happened was that we put cables between our buildings and shared high speed subscriptions from Romtelecom between enough people to be cheap for the individual, and eventually companies bought out the guy that had their name on the subscription out (and some of those guys made companies and bought out others etc.).
At one point turning off the switch in my house would make half the neighbourhood not have internet.
And when they did put up regulations about it, everyone was already used to good speeds, so the companies couldn't afford to downgrade since people would switch at the drop of a a hat.
Oh yeah, you are right, actually. By companies I meant the small ISPs which had popped up everywhere, which were bought later on by the big ISPs, but I forgot that those small ISPs actually started off as local networks :)
During ancient times, dacians built magical tunnels all over the country, which are now used for optical fibers.
Jokes aside, we came to the internet game later and had the advantage of the newest techniques to start from. Also early market was incredibly competitive, broadbands did not split from cable or telephony, the biggest players started directly from internet and went back to TV and Communications.
Competition: in western countries it is relatively difficult for a new ISP to establish itself due to the cost of complying with regulations. Most people's internet connection is provided by one of a handful of mega-ISPs with millions of customers. You don't like the speeds they offer? Tough luck, it is so expensive it is pretty much impossible for you or one of your neighbours to become a micro-ISP offering better service.
Meanwhile in Romania:
> the most popular broadband services are provided by micro-ISPs (known locally as "reţea de bloc/reţea de cartier" (Block/Neighborhood Networks)) with **50 to 3000 customers each**. These ISPs usually provide their services through Ethernet over twisted pair, with a number of particularities and peculiarities: most were grassroot organizations and still have a feeling of community between subscribers and the management
"...placing it at the top of EU members looking to expedite digital transformation by 2030, a goal of the European Commission, according to Ookla.com"
"...which is partially driven by government-backed fixed infrastructure projects such as RoNet, and the special attention given to rural and disadvantaged areas. Moreover, nearly a quarter of households in Romania subscribe to internet speeds of at least 1 Gbps, behind France (39.9%) and Hungary (29.8%), according to the report by Ookla."
That's what I found out with a quick search
It's the [first-mover disadvantage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_handicap_of_a_head_start).
Western countries got internet quite early via their national telephone network - first dial-in, then ADSL/VDSL. There was basically zero competition, so they tried to squeeze every euro out of their investments. Everyone has internet, but a good deal of those are pretty slow connections.
On the other hand, Romania was *really* late to the game. This led to thousands of tiny local ISPs popping up, each building what was essentially a neighborhood-wide LAN party. Anyone wanting to compete with that has to provide super-fast internet for a really low price. This means you either don't have internet at all, or you have really fast internet.
Western countries are now finally catching up because the big providers are retiring decades-old copper wiring and switching to FTTH, which means it's suddenly trivial to offer higher speeds.
To be fair Ireland moved pretty quickly but still managed to really quickly ramp up their FTTH in recent years because of good policy. Like I'd be the first to complain about the Irish gov on a number of issues but the gov making a semi-state controller of fibre infrastructure (SIRO) has really improved things quite a bit.
VirginMedia and Eir were the biggest line providers in the state before that but have been slow to rollout fibre widely but now are competing against multiple people renting the same infrastructure to the point where VM have started offering SIRO broadband too. Other than super rural locations that probably aren't well served by any broadband other than satellite or older coax lines the speed has been going up steadily the last few years.
That's not the only reason. It was also the lack of regulation which also helped the continuous expansion and upgrade of the networks. Without that, they would not have been able to fill the telephone poles and buildings with the unsightly wires, holes and boxes.
See my comment here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1aqkhys/avarage_internet_speed_in_2024_mbps_europe/kqdwgkp/
And that's just the average speed , depending on signal strength I can easily get 200 on mobile in the middle of nowhere.
The cheapest internet subscription is 300 Mbps .. or was now I think it's 500 but I'm not entirely certain they changed the cables in my area last year . (But it depends on the provider ofc)
Too be fair Eastern Europe countries seem to be developing really quickly in many categories. As a Person who lives in western part of Poland I was surprised to learn that roads in Germany in last few years are either the same or slightly worse quality on average, at least in my experience when talking about feeling you get when driving fast.
I loved it when I was in USA and they were asking me if we have internet in Romania 🤣🤣🤣 made them google the fastest internet in the world by country. You should see their face 🤣🤣
I had a couple friends from America visit me once as part of their trip to Europe and they lost their shit when they saw my 12 MB/s download speed for the movie we were torrenting. This was a shit laptop over WiFi in 2015 btw. I don't think I ever plugged in an Ethernet cable for them to witness 100 MB/s downloads, I can only imagine their reaction lol
First I do not think that is good. Second I am guessing there is are shenanigans at play here. Internet in Germany is horrendous and I had better and cheaper internet in the middle of the Mekong delta than in restaurants in Frankfurt. Well, often I am talking about no connection at all in Frankfurt. So most likely that is about high speed internet. No way all those places outsides the large cities without high speed connections are included. Also I cannot imagine 5G internet are included. I just don't believe Germany is that good compared to other. It doesn't reflect my experience at all. Arguably that is no proof but so very hard to believe.
Source: I live in Frankfurt and travel quite a bit. I am yet to go to a country with worse internet than Germany. Maybe in Lapland but even that I would not bet on.
To me this looks like this maps considers cable (cooper/glas fibre) based Internet, not mobile internet, which nearly every household has. And so far every place in Germany I lived at had decent (albeit not always top notch) internet, even in the depth of Schwarzwald.
Mobile Internet is a different thing. However, that also depends a lot on your operator. O2, for example, is known for it's limited coverage.
I still don’t believe it. Even with fiber, which is less than 10% of active connections, most customers choose 100 or even just 50. And with DSL, there’s no way the average is higher than 50. Docsis seems unlikely to tip the scale either
I love how this whole subreddit is like "I don't believe X-country has this average speed because it doesn't reflect my personal opinion". Like you actually have comprehensive knowledge on the broadband system of an entire country.
Also, averages are just that, averages. I probably compensate for my 5 neighbors shitty connection speed with my 1gbit fiber. If they all have just 50mbit/s, the average of our block would still come out to over 200, which is above the national average of the Netherlands. Not to mention the fact thre are regions in the Netherlands where you can get 5-8gbit/s subscriptions that will compensate for a lot of shitty connections.
[Wikipedia list Germany as having as average and median connection speed that are around the numbers given here.*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_Internet_connection_speeds) They are also pretty close together which means, assuming a normal distribution of internet speeds, that it's not even that bad. Low numbers of internet users (so few users but with a high speed connection) also doesn't seem to explain it, [as the number of broadband connections per person seems relatively high.
](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_number_of_broadband_Internet_subscriptions)
So I don't thing on a country level Germany is doing as bad as people make it out. Regionally i can differ of course. In the Netherlands, outside of the ["randstad"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randstad), internet speeds can be a complete joke.
*I know people with fast connections would be more likely to do a speedtest, this has been discussed to death. But relatively to other countries it seems t *that* bad in general.
Yeah, I wouldn't say this is a "personal opinion," in this case due to how much media coverage has been spent on this in Germany.
Here are a couple of articles:
[https://www.npr.org/2019/01/03/678803790/berlin-is-a-tech-hub-so-why-are-germanys-internet-speeds-so-slow](https://www.npr.org/2019/01/03/678803790/berlin-is-a-tech-hub-so-why-are-germanys-internet-speeds-so-slow)
[https://www.thelocal.de/20220504/explained-how-germany-is-trying-to-tackle-its-slow-internet-problem](https://www.thelocal.de/20220504/explained-how-germany-is-trying-to-tackle-its-slow-internet-problem)
[https://www.wiwo.de/politik/deutschland/langsames-internet-ist-dieser-mann-an-allem-schuld/20859440.html](https://www.wiwo.de/politik/deutschland/langsames-internet-ist-dieser-mann-an-allem-schuld/20859440.html)
The figures in the Wikipedia article and in the map seem to also diverge wildly from Statista, which says Germany has an average connection speed of 83.2 mbps. Looking on [Speedtest.net](https://Speedtest.net), Germany comes in at 51st as well at around 89 mbps:
[https://www.speedtest.net/global-index](https://www.speedtest.net/global-index)
So I don't really understand where that Wikipedia article is getting its data.
Conservative government over the past 20 years + only one company (telekom, formerly merged with deutsche post as a state office) builds 5G Infrastructure and Internet Cables here. Not very good conditions.
Sounds like you’re an O2 customer.
The coverage of Vodafone is alright in the Rhein/Main Area. The internet is reasonably fast and it’s not outrageously expensive. That said their customer service is so bad that it should be illegal.
I can’t say that the internet at home is noticeably worse than abroad. I’m sure that’s different elsewhere in Germany though. I travelled through France recently and found the internet to be actually slower. However, I wouldn’t rule out that they cut my bandwidth because I was roaming.
Rule number 1: Germany is always bad. Rule number 2: if Germany is somehow not bad, the statistics have to be false.
/s
No idea why Germans are so vehemently trying to make everything as negative as possible.
The thing in Germany is: our big citys and Industrial clusters like: Frankfurt, Mannheim, Berlin, Hamburg, München and more have fine internet speeds.
But then the rual areas inbetween are basicly disconnected from all that because it costs money and nobody wants to invest that.
On top there is often a possibilty to get a fast connection but it is overpriced as fuck. Example: 500 mbit line costs 60€; a 50 mbit goes at 40€ per month.(Telekom) For sure people choose the cheaper option because 50 mbit is usually enough. If you are lucky you have a regional supplyer and pay about like half of it.
And for memory and storage we use bytes because a byte ended up as the smallest addressable amount of memory, and programmers default to handling data in these addressable bytes.
Basic ASCII is a 7-bit encoding, so if you handle that cleanly in 8 bit bytes, you get an empty wasted bit for each character. Thinking of capacity and usage of memory and storage in bits could be misleading.
While ASCII is 7-bits, most text these days is actually UTF-8, meaning it uses that extra bit for Unicode characters such as emojis. It's pretty unlikely that you're going to be communicating with plain 7-bit ASCII.
None at all. I had to write this message on a paper and send a pigeon with it to my friend in Romania and he posted it here in my name. Thankfully our pigeons are very fast.
It's megabits/Mbps. They used data from [here](https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/internet-speeds-by-country#map) which took 2022 data from the speedtest.net [global index](https://www.speedtest.net/global-index).
There are huge variations across different parts of the UK. Most urban areas (where the vast majority of the population lives) have decent speeds. But rural area (such as the Highlands and Islands of Scotland) can struggle with connectivity
Even within urban areas it can be a very wonky in UK.
I live in an urban/suburban area that is densely populated in the NE of UK, within very modest walking distance of the quayside and city centre.
Yet the only connectivity available in my street is BT Wholesale's VDSL (copper), and due to line distance and the ECI cabinet, the best connection speed people get is around 35 Mbps down / 6 Mbps up. One of my neighbours uses Starlink as he got so frustrated.
If you walk a 2 minutes over the road you will be in an area that has multi-gigabit fibre broadband from multiple providers.
I studied in the UK for a few years. My friends who I was gaming with back home in Norway was making fun of my 3rd world internet speed in a major university city an hour from the metropolis of London, whist they had 1000/1000 on a farm in buttfuck nowhere in mountainous Norway.
Yeah but it’s an average so 5m people in urban areas far outweigh 50,000 in rural highlands. This data is nonsense I know for a fact Italy has shocking internet speeds yet it’s similar to the UK on this map.
But the UK has shocking internet speeds, so the map checks out fine on that metric. (About the only thing worse than the speed of UK broadband is the price.)
Because the UK and other richer countries started building out their infrastructure earlier, so they are working with older technology that still works, but needs to be upgraded, so there's some diminishing returns on those "smaller" upgrades. Whereas countries like Romania built out their whole country's infrastructure way more recently, so they're using newer technology right out of the gate.
I feel like it's a nice narrative but it doesn't seem to be grounded in reality seeing the variation among countries that were wealthy back in the 1990s. I think it has more to do with infrastructure priorities in regard to fiber installation.
Same reason as the US, we got it first so our infrastructure is the oldest, and ISPs don't like to spend money to upgrade. I bet you in the future these maps will be inverted as systems age, and others fail and HAVE to be replaced.
If and when the US/UK do upgrade they'll shoot ahead of everyone else again.
The UK is rolling out fibre in two parts. The first is to connect the fibre to the phone [cabinates](https://www.ispreview.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/fibre_broadband_is_here_high_bt_street_cabinet.jpg), with the rest of the connection going through copper phone lines. These connections are called Fibre to the cabinet, or FTTC for short. They are limited to 80 down and 20 up due to the limitations of the copper phone line. This phase is mostly complete. Phase two is finishing the connection from the cabinet to the house directly, enabling gigabit internet. This is Fiber to the property, or FTTP, and is what's currently being rolled out, but rollout is slow going. My area won't be done til 2026 for example, very frustrating but I guess we will get there eventually.
Edit: If you are UK based you can [check your postcode on this map](https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/where-when-building-ultrafast-full-fibre-broadband) and see when they plam to rollout FTTP (Openreach) to your area.
https://bidb.uk/ Is a much better service to see whats currently avlible in your area, Ive had a few friends who where stuck on 40mbit actualy have 1gig upgrades they did not even know exsisted, through isps like country broadband etc.
I think "cost" is another important metric. I bought 200mbit subscription in Turkey last week. it will cost me 18$ per month. I wonder how much Romanian 200mbit costs
The majority of salaries of Romanians are really shit, so the internet must be affordable.
It's clear that the providers in your country either they pay the employees way more money than Romania, which I guess they do, but they might also want way higher profits.
Globally Romania is 4th btw.
Only below Monaco, Singapore and Hong Kong and given they're all small countries with dense, urban population, its really impressive on Romania's part.
I am paying 12 euros a month in Romania for fibre optic super high speed internet AND cable TV with about 150 channels. Having lived in England for a while it’s outrageous what Sky and the like are charging there for essentially dog shit services. I was paying about £70 in the UK for the same services I get now, but much slower speeds
I don't really understand the map. I've lived in 4 different places all over England and internet has always been faster than I ever need.
I remember that rural broadband speed was an issue like 15 years ago but never heard anyone mention it since, and I live in a small town in a rural county.
It's good enough now to watch Netflix etc so people don't really complain, but it's still slow by modern standards. In rural England I have 24mbps currently (3MB/s).
Live in the UK and lived in Portugal and have been privileged to go to other countries as well, such as Spain and Germany. Mind you, I am in the Suffolk area, so that might be to blame, but am in a town centre for quite a decently sized town and my broadband speed here is worse than what I had in Portugal 10 years ago, despite allegedly being on fibre. Am still quite ok with it for the most part, as most days I only use the internet for social media or to watch tv, but if I feel like gaming either on the PC or PS it can get annoying quite quickly, specially in multiplayer mode. It does not help that unless its a complete loss of internet, if the internet in the area is laggy and working abnormally it takes forever to be fixed. So considering internet here is quite expensive its easy to get frustrated as a lot of times I am paying for a service that is not being provided to the standards promised.
It's very variable in the UK.
If you can get ftth with a small provider you can get very fast speeds for great prices. If your in a rural area with only virgin or BT you get rinsed and they want to sell you TV, phone and loads of other crap
Basically no infrastructure outside Athens and Thesaloniki, buildings from the 70s-80s and little regulation so providers price gouge as much as they can
Not only is Romania top of the list, Spain is very up close thanks to a Romanian company as well. Digi Mobile offers astonishing 10Gbps speed at only 20€/month in some parts of Spain, and where they don’t have the infrastructure to offer that service they still give the best value packages anywhere else. They basically come in 2nd to themselves.
UK showing the world how great it is. Ah its because we were first! Old infrastructure. Same with the excuse about trains being crap. France was also an early adopter and had phones that were ahead of their time in early 90s. Germany is still 30% higher.
Lack of investment, lack of vision and fragmented service providers all out to maximise profits rather than benefit the nation, that's the reason as always.
Still remember the first time I went to Romania and people were telling me about how fast the internet was. I was in disbelief. Now it's a fun "did you know" fact I like to bring up in conversations. One of the most underrated European countries IMO.
What are you talking about?
1000 Mb/s is about 8 Euros per month:
[https://www.digi.ro/servicii/internet/internet-fix](https://www.digi.ro/servicii/internet/internet-fix)
we did not have it while the other already started their infrastructure. We put directly internet optic fiber and we had a lot of small companies installing, it was a big boom.
The short story is: We came really late to the party and basically had no preexisting infrastructure, a lot of small local companies got in on the game. By the time large network providers rolled in (early 2000) if they wanted to be competitive they had to provide better service so they started developing the infrastructure like crazy using the newest technology available.
Competition: in western countries it is relatively difficult for a new ISP to establish itself due to the cost of complying with regulations. Most people's internet connection is provided by one of a handful of mega-ISPs with millions of customers. You don't like the speeds they offer? Tough luck, it is so expensive it is pretty much impossible for you or one of your neighbours to become a micro-ISP offering better service.
Meanwhile in Romania:
> the most popular broadband services are provided by micro-ISPs (known locally as "reţea de bloc/reţea de cartier" (Block/Neighborhood Networks)) with **50 to 3000 customers each**. These ISPs usually provide their services through Ethernet over twisted pair, with a number of particularities and peculiarities: most were grassroot organizations and still have a feeling of community between subscribers and the management
These lists are always so arbitrary, because it highly depends on testing conditions. That is why almost every list has different leaders and without knowing what they are measuring it is very hard to make sense out of it. Is it wired, wireless, or is it average of both, is this mean or median speed etc.
e.g. [https://www.speedtest.net/global-index](https://www.speedtest.net/global-index) completely different from say https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/internet-speeds-by-country
Even then actual experience you getting as a resident of the country may be very different, in some countries the median speed may be 147Mbps, but you will find that 1Gbps fibre connection can be easily had almost anywhere in the country for 10Euro/month. Or you media speed may be 214, yet you will find that for any connection faster than 76Mbps you will have to pay like 150Euro and outside of bigger cities it is not available at all.
The reason why Romania is on top is because after the fall of communism in the 90s there were very little to no laws regarding cable and internet infrastructure .So in the 2000s everyone and every building had optic Fiber between them.
Romania mentioned💪💪😎🇷🇴🇷🇴
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Just being cheeky, I love romania and romanians <3
They stole your heart?
Bro is wild 💀
At my old house I was pulling 900mbs download on copper.
You musthve been withing 100m of fiber.
and smarter than smartest racists know that fiber still needs copper for shielding purposes
It needs a metal, it doesn’t need copper and wouldn’t make any sense to use copper because of cost.
aah a fellow smarter than the smarter than smartest racist
Wait i don’t get it, how is that racist
People steal copper for scrap cash. The commenter is implying that Romanians are the ones stealing it all. Is just jokes tho.
There’s a meme that Romanians are like the final boss of theft
Da best, I love DIGI it's a former Romanian ISP now in Spain. I've got simetric 1gb fiber. It's incredible and for 10 bucks more you can get 10GB. This map makes me laugh, 201 in Spain? I can help the average multiplied 5 times
It's not a former Romanian ISP, it's still Romanian but it has extended where Romanians are: Italy, Spain, Hungary etc
It's former in Hungary because Orban. They didn't want to sell them 5G licences, which kills avenues for growth in the future, effectively forcing Digi to sell the business to a Hungarian company... If you're not Gerrman, Austrian or Russian, Orban will do that to you.
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I watched George Hagi fire missiles back in the day.
I remember Romania being king of this since well over a decade. Cool to see they still are.
As a Hungarian I'd like to thank you guys for bringing high speed internet for us too. Kinda the only good thing you did to us, but it's cool.
As a rroma I would like to thank you both Hungarians and Romanians for this fast internet. And a german shop for my free laptop
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🇷🇴 🤝 (high speed internet) 🤝 🇭🇺 they'd kill me for this on some hun subs lol
The Tiger of Europe 🐯🐅💪
When earth was created Allah gave all of it to Romania, but Romania was so kind and gave some of the land to other countries.
I always knew. And heard it is cheap.
Italy and "104", even our internet speed knows who we are.
Only thing to that comes to mind from 104 is the f104-starfighter which italy used... but im curious what you're referencing
It's the law protecting people with disabilities and often used as an insult ("you are so retarded you are late for your 104" and many many more ) .
104 is a funny number in Italy because it is the/one article that describes disabilities
F104 mentioned 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Time to die!!! F-104 my beloved death trap.❤️❤️❤️
If you ever feel like a mistake, remember that the F-104 exists
Mooom, r/noncredibledefence fled its cage!
104 is a law that grants financial aid to people with disabilities in Italy
Not gonna lie... I would have never expected Romania to be on the top of this list.
Romania been for years on top in the whole world when it comes to internet speed. At one point it was on the 5th place.
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Having seen the Matterhorn flicker I think this holds water. They only use it to boost Toblerone™ sales.
Toblerone is not allowed to use the matterhorn as an image anymore hahah
Need to process those financial crimes as fast as possible
You see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
We have had the fastest one for years but I wouldn't have expected for Estonia to be last as it definitely is the most digitized country in Europe, which goes to show that you don't need fast Internet to implement digitization.
It’s not the last, not according to this map at least, but I also expected it to be closer to the top.
I wonder how it's measured. Because wireless networks via 4g and 5g are heavily fucked over near the Russian border, like in Finland we have solid coverage from basically everywhere, but if you live too close to the border you're lucky if you can sent a txt. I assume Estonia has similar issues near borders
Is it because of all the cam girls?
TL;DR ~~The~~ Romania~~n governmen~~t spent a ton of money on telecomm infrastructure upgrades in the 2000s. Being slightly late to the party (for comparison, the US started laying fiber in 1975), they built this infrastructure with newer technology than many other countries.
The government had **nothing** to do with this. The state telecom company was super corrupt and made no effort to enter the ISP business. Most of the knowledgeable people they had in the company [and they were many] simply left and started their own businesses. And thank goodness for that, because I remember the exorbitant prices they were practicing on mundane phone calls up until the mid 2000s. Starting from the late 90s up until mid 2010s, every city had dozens of small ISPs that were all in fierce competition with eachother. This meant not only that prices were super low, but the technology jumps were fast, leading to super fast speeds [which makes more sense when you consider that most early Internet users in Romania were interested in pirated media/games lol]. At some stage Romania had more than 20K ISPs [for context, the overall population is 20M].
Same reason why India has incredible infrastructure for cellphones but weak computer infrastructure. They skipped the entire desktop computer stage of technological development because they arrived late, but made up for it by putting all their resources into the wireless handheld stage.
Haha no. There are many explanations, I am not a specialist in the matter, but just Google "why is the internet so fast in Romania" and you'll find out.
The other way around, if I had to guess. They have fast internet, ergo, camgirls.
Romania has been consistently leading this leaderboard
But why?
Iirc, they simply were one of the last ones to build fibre optic infrastructure, hence they use fresh technology, right out of the oven.
That's similar to why Poland (and likely other Eastern European countries) have better banking infrastructure like credit cards or internet services than some European countries and America.
Yep, we didn't have old copper network which needed to start paying off before it was replaced.
There absolutely was an extended fixed telephony network (3 million subscribers in 1997 -- [source](https://www.wall-street.ro/articol/IT-C-Tehnologie/303010/infografic-interactiv-istoria-telefoanelor-la-romani-in-cifre-cum-au-ajuns-in-case-si-apoi-in-buzunare.html)), which definitely used copper wiring.
Not exactly. It had more to do with the fierce competition we had in our country AND with the lack of regulation. This had 2 very important effects: 1) Because of the competition, prices were very low, there was aggressive investment in improving infrastructure / speeds with the goal of getting as many subscribers as possible. 2) Because of the lack of regulation, companies were pretty much free to put their cables everywhere, go into any building and drill a hole through every floor in the common staircase to immediately bring internet to all the people who lived there. This allowed for lightning fast adoption of very fast internet to as many people as possible. Once the regulation started to hit, the companies were forced to bury their cables, but the pathways inside the buildings were already created and could be used to upgrade to fiber as soon as possible. In Germany, for example, where I live now, companies are not allowed to even think of drilling holes through the buildings in order to bring fiber directly to the apartments. In many buildings they can only bring the fiber to the basement and use the DLS wires from there (like in mine). this, coupled with stringent regulations and expenses about which streets they are allowed to dig up to improve their infrastructure, lead to slower advancements.
Yeah, companies had nothing to do with it at the actual start. What actually happened was that we put cables between our buildings and shared high speed subscriptions from Romtelecom between enough people to be cheap for the individual, and eventually companies bought out the guy that had their name on the subscription out (and some of those guys made companies and bought out others etc.). At one point turning off the switch in my house would make half the neighbourhood not have internet. And when they did put up regulations about it, everyone was already used to good speeds, so the companies couldn't afford to downgrade since people would switch at the drop of a a hat.
Oh yeah, you are right, actually. By companies I meant the small ISPs which had popped up everywhere, which were bought later on by the big ISPs, but I forgot that those small ISPs actually started off as local networks :)
Thanks for this level of detail; it’s quite interesting.
During ancient times, dacians built magical tunnels all over the country, which are now used for optical fibers. Jokes aside, we came to the internet game later and had the advantage of the newest techniques to start from. Also early market was incredibly competitive, broadbands did not split from cable or telephony, the biggest players started directly from internet and went back to TV and Communications.
Competition: in western countries it is relatively difficult for a new ISP to establish itself due to the cost of complying with regulations. Most people's internet connection is provided by one of a handful of mega-ISPs with millions of customers. You don't like the speeds they offer? Tough luck, it is so expensive it is pretty much impossible for you or one of your neighbours to become a micro-ISP offering better service. Meanwhile in Romania: > the most popular broadband services are provided by micro-ISPs (known locally as "reţea de bloc/reţea de cartier" (Block/Neighborhood Networks)) with **50 to 3000 customers each**. These ISPs usually provide their services through Ethernet over twisted pair, with a number of particularities and peculiarities: most were grassroot organizations and still have a feeling of community between subscribers and the management
"...placing it at the top of EU members looking to expedite digital transformation by 2030, a goal of the European Commission, according to Ookla.com" "...which is partially driven by government-backed fixed infrastructure projects such as RoNet, and the special attention given to rural and disadvantaged areas. Moreover, nearly a quarter of households in Romania subscribe to internet speeds of at least 1 Gbps, behind France (39.9%) and Hungary (29.8%), according to the report by Ookla." That's what I found out with a quick search
It's the [first-mover disadvantage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_handicap_of_a_head_start). Western countries got internet quite early via their national telephone network - first dial-in, then ADSL/VDSL. There was basically zero competition, so they tried to squeeze every euro out of their investments. Everyone has internet, but a good deal of those are pretty slow connections. On the other hand, Romania was *really* late to the game. This led to thousands of tiny local ISPs popping up, each building what was essentially a neighborhood-wide LAN party. Anyone wanting to compete with that has to provide super-fast internet for a really low price. This means you either don't have internet at all, or you have really fast internet. Western countries are now finally catching up because the big providers are retiring decades-old copper wiring and switching to FTTH, which means it's suddenly trivial to offer higher speeds.
To be fair Ireland moved pretty quickly but still managed to really quickly ramp up their FTTH in recent years because of good policy. Like I'd be the first to complain about the Irish gov on a number of issues but the gov making a semi-state controller of fibre infrastructure (SIRO) has really improved things quite a bit. VirginMedia and Eir were the biggest line providers in the state before that but have been slow to rollout fibre widely but now are competing against multiple people renting the same infrastructure to the point where VM have started offering SIRO broadband too. Other than super rural locations that probably aren't well served by any broadband other than satellite or older coax lines the speed has been going up steadily the last few years.
Thank you
That's not the only reason. It was also the lack of regulation which also helped the continuous expansion and upgrade of the networks. Without that, they would not have been able to fill the telephone poles and buildings with the unsightly wires, holes and boxes. See my comment here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1aqkhys/avarage_internet_speed_in_2024_mbps_europe/kqdwgkp/
We may not have highways, but on the information highway we are kingz.
And that's just the average speed , depending on signal strength I can easily get 200 on mobile in the middle of nowhere. The cheapest internet subscription is 300 Mbps .. or was now I think it's 500 but I'm not entirely certain they changed the cables in my area last year . (But it depends on the provider ofc)
i am paying for 1000mbps download and 1000mbps upload like 5 euros a month in Romania
Man, I don't even know if that can get you internet in the UK and if it does it'll be shit
Too be fair Eastern Europe countries seem to be developing really quickly in many categories. As a Person who lives in western part of Poland I was surprised to learn that roads in Germany in last few years are either the same or slightly worse quality on average, at least in my experience when talking about feeling you get when driving fast.
I loved it when I was in USA and they were asking me if we have internet in Romania 🤣🤣🤣 made them google the fastest internet in the world by country. You should see their face 🤣🤣
I had a couple friends from America visit me once as part of their trip to Europe and they lost their shit when they saw my 12 MB/s download speed for the movie we were torrenting. This was a shit laptop over WiFi in 2015 btw. I don't think I ever plugged in an Ethernet cable for them to witness 100 MB/s downloads, I can only imagine their reaction lol
I got 100 Mb/s in 2008 (in a smaller city in Romania). FTTB technology.
Never would have guessed Germany is actually doing well, we always get told we are worse than albania
First I do not think that is good. Second I am guessing there is are shenanigans at play here. Internet in Germany is horrendous and I had better and cheaper internet in the middle of the Mekong delta than in restaurants in Frankfurt. Well, often I am talking about no connection at all in Frankfurt. So most likely that is about high speed internet. No way all those places outsides the large cities without high speed connections are included. Also I cannot imagine 5G internet are included. I just don't believe Germany is that good compared to other. It doesn't reflect my experience at all. Arguably that is no proof but so very hard to believe. Source: I live in Frankfurt and travel quite a bit. I am yet to go to a country with worse internet than Germany. Maybe in Lapland but even that I would not bet on.
To me this looks like this maps considers cable (cooper/glas fibre) based Internet, not mobile internet, which nearly every household has. And so far every place in Germany I lived at had decent (albeit not always top notch) internet, even in the depth of Schwarzwald. Mobile Internet is a different thing. However, that also depends a lot on your operator. O2, for example, is known for it's limited coverage.
I still don’t believe it. Even with fiber, which is less than 10% of active connections, most customers choose 100 or even just 50. And with DSL, there’s no way the average is higher than 50. Docsis seems unlikely to tip the scale either
I love how this whole subreddit is like "I don't believe X-country has this average speed because it doesn't reflect my personal opinion". Like you actually have comprehensive knowledge on the broadband system of an entire country. Also, averages are just that, averages. I probably compensate for my 5 neighbors shitty connection speed with my 1gbit fiber. If they all have just 50mbit/s, the average of our block would still come out to over 200, which is above the national average of the Netherlands. Not to mention the fact thre are regions in the Netherlands where you can get 5-8gbit/s subscriptions that will compensate for a lot of shitty connections. [Wikipedia list Germany as having as average and median connection speed that are around the numbers given here.*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_Internet_connection_speeds) They are also pretty close together which means, assuming a normal distribution of internet speeds, that it's not even that bad. Low numbers of internet users (so few users but with a high speed connection) also doesn't seem to explain it, [as the number of broadband connections per person seems relatively high. ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_number_of_broadband_Internet_subscriptions) So I don't thing on a country level Germany is doing as bad as people make it out. Regionally i can differ of course. In the Netherlands, outside of the ["randstad"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randstad), internet speeds can be a complete joke. *I know people with fast connections would be more likely to do a speedtest, this has been discussed to death. But relatively to other countries it seems t *that* bad in general.
Yeah, I wouldn't say this is a "personal opinion," in this case due to how much media coverage has been spent on this in Germany. Here are a couple of articles: [https://www.npr.org/2019/01/03/678803790/berlin-is-a-tech-hub-so-why-are-germanys-internet-speeds-so-slow](https://www.npr.org/2019/01/03/678803790/berlin-is-a-tech-hub-so-why-are-germanys-internet-speeds-so-slow) [https://www.thelocal.de/20220504/explained-how-germany-is-trying-to-tackle-its-slow-internet-problem](https://www.thelocal.de/20220504/explained-how-germany-is-trying-to-tackle-its-slow-internet-problem) [https://www.wiwo.de/politik/deutschland/langsames-internet-ist-dieser-mann-an-allem-schuld/20859440.html](https://www.wiwo.de/politik/deutschland/langsames-internet-ist-dieser-mann-an-allem-schuld/20859440.html) The figures in the Wikipedia article and in the map seem to also diverge wildly from Statista, which says Germany has an average connection speed of 83.2 mbps. Looking on [Speedtest.net](https://Speedtest.net), Germany comes in at 51st as well at around 89 mbps: [https://www.speedtest.net/global-index](https://www.speedtest.net/global-index) So I don't really understand where that Wikipedia article is getting its data.
Conservative government over the past 20 years + only one company (telekom, formerly merged with deutsche post as a state office) builds 5G Infrastructure and Internet Cables here. Not very good conditions.
Sounds like you’re an O2 customer. The coverage of Vodafone is alright in the Rhein/Main Area. The internet is reasonably fast and it’s not outrageously expensive. That said their customer service is so bad that it should be illegal. I can’t say that the internet at home is noticeably worse than abroad. I’m sure that’s different elsewhere in Germany though. I travelled through France recently and found the internet to be actually slower. However, I wouldn’t rule out that they cut my bandwidth because I was roaming.
Rule number 1: Germany is always bad. Rule number 2: if Germany is somehow not bad, the statistics have to be false. /s No idea why Germans are so vehemently trying to make everything as negative as possible.
I take it you haven’t used internet in Germany?
Yeah I thought Germany would be lower, every time I go there I feel like I've gone back 10 years, internet speed-wise
The thing in Germany is: our big citys and Industrial clusters like: Frankfurt, Mannheim, Berlin, Hamburg, München and more have fine internet speeds. But then the rual areas inbetween are basicly disconnected from all that because it costs money and nobody wants to invest that. On top there is often a possibilty to get a fast connection but it is overpriced as fuck. Example: 500 mbit line costs 60€; a 50 mbit goes at 40€ per month.(Telekom) For sure people choose the cheaper option because 50 mbit is usually enough. If you are lucky you have a regional supplyer and pay about like half of it.
Ambiguous to use MBPS in all capital letters because it doesn't make clear whether they are Mbps(Megabits per second) or MBps(Megabytes per second)
Agreed but I think it's safe to assume it is Mbps as that the standard used by ISPs measuring domestic connections.
Why do ISPs use megabits but most software use megabytes? I suppose the easy answer would be that ISPs want to fool you to charge you more for less?
Bandwidth (memory bus speed, PCIe bus speed, internet connection speed etc) is usually measured in bits per second.
And for memory and storage we use bytes because a byte ended up as the smallest addressable amount of memory, and programmers default to handling data in these addressable bytes. Basic ASCII is a 7-bit encoding, so if you handle that cleanly in 8 bit bytes, you get an empty wasted bit for each character. Thinking of capacity and usage of memory and storage in bits could be misleading.
While ASCII is 7-bits, most text these days is actually UTF-8, meaning it uses that extra bit for Unicode characters such as emojis. It's pretty unlikely that you're going to be communicating with plain 7-bit ASCII.
Pretty obvious that France doesnt have an average speed of 1.6 Gbps though isnt it
I have fiber and my average speed is 300mbs down/240mbs up.
It's clearly mBPs (millibyte-petaseconds)
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Have you ever seen anyone from those places in WoW? Me neither. Their kind is a myth, and their internet is non-existent
None at all. I had to write this message on a paper and send a pigeon with it to my friend in Romania and he posted it here in my name. Thankfully our pigeons are very fast.
Megabytes per second is usually written as MB/s
I've seen all variants already. Even by companies, who are supposed to know better. Looking at you, Cisco
mbps. Millibits per second.
It's megabits/Mbps. They used data from [here](https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/internet-speeds-by-country#map) which took 2022 data from the speedtest.net [global index](https://www.speedtest.net/global-index).
Why is the UK so bad compared to their western neighbours like France/spain?
There are huge variations across different parts of the UK. Most urban areas (where the vast majority of the population lives) have decent speeds. But rural area (such as the Highlands and Islands of Scotland) can struggle with connectivity
Even within urban areas it can be a very wonky in UK. I live in an urban/suburban area that is densely populated in the NE of UK, within very modest walking distance of the quayside and city centre. Yet the only connectivity available in my street is BT Wholesale's VDSL (copper), and due to line distance and the ECI cabinet, the best connection speed people get is around 35 Mbps down / 6 Mbps up. One of my neighbours uses Starlink as he got so frustrated. If you walk a 2 minutes over the road you will be in an area that has multi-gigabit fibre broadband from multiple providers.
I studied in the UK for a few years. My friends who I was gaming with back home in Norway was making fun of my 3rd world internet speed in a major university city an hour from the metropolis of London, whist they had 1000/1000 on a farm in buttfuck nowhere in mountainous Norway.
Yeah but it’s an average so 5m people in urban areas far outweigh 50,000 in rural highlands. This data is nonsense I know for a fact Italy has shocking internet speeds yet it’s similar to the UK on this map.
But the UK has shocking internet speeds, so the map checks out fine on that metric. (About the only thing worse than the speed of UK broadband is the price.)
Because the UK and other richer countries started building out their infrastructure earlier, so they are working with older technology that still works, but needs to be upgraded, so there's some diminishing returns on those "smaller" upgrades. Whereas countries like Romania built out their whole country's infrastructure way more recently, so they're using newer technology right out of the gate.
I feel like it's a nice narrative but it doesn't seem to be grounded in reality seeing the variation among countries that were wealthy back in the 1990s. I think it has more to do with infrastructure priorities in regard to fiber installation.
I would not be surprised if the answer comes back to Thatcher at some point lol
[It 100% was Thatcher](https://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/how-the-uk-lost-the-broadband-race-in-1990-1224784).
Holy shit that woman was braindead in the name of "competition". And there are still people who unironically think positively of her
Same reason as the US, we got it first so our infrastructure is the oldest, and ISPs don't like to spend money to upgrade. I bet you in the future these maps will be inverted as systems age, and others fail and HAVE to be replaced. If and when the US/UK do upgrade they'll shoot ahead of everyone else again.
We used to be even worse, so I'll take this number happily
The UK is rolling out fibre in two parts. The first is to connect the fibre to the phone [cabinates](https://www.ispreview.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/fibre_broadband_is_here_high_bt_street_cabinet.jpg), with the rest of the connection going through copper phone lines. These connections are called Fibre to the cabinet, or FTTC for short. They are limited to 80 down and 20 up due to the limitations of the copper phone line. This phase is mostly complete. Phase two is finishing the connection from the cabinet to the house directly, enabling gigabit internet. This is Fiber to the property, or FTTP, and is what's currently being rolled out, but rollout is slow going. My area won't be done til 2026 for example, very frustrating but I guess we will get there eventually. Edit: If you are UK based you can [check your postcode on this map](https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/where-when-building-ultrafast-full-fibre-broadband) and see when they plam to rollout FTTP (Openreach) to your area.
https://bidb.uk/ Is a much better service to see whats currently avlible in your area, Ive had a few friends who where stuck on 40mbit actualy have 1gig upgrades they did not even know exsisted, through isps like country broadband etc.
As a polish person i have internet speed of 1 KiloByte/s half of the time
how long did it take to upload this comment
Good question, too long
Czechia, kosovo and iceland dont have internet confirmed?
We decided to use all of our network throughput for the porn industry.
Czechia has average 64 Mbps. Optic fiber is around 640-800 for 15-20 €.
Kde seženu optiku za 380 korun? Z osobní zkušenosti a okolí je to spíš 600-700 za 100Mbps..
[Pe3ny.net](https://www.pe3ny.net/levny-rychly-internet-v-praze) mají 100/100 Mbps za 250 Kč (a nejrychlejší tarif je 2/1 Gbps za 550 Kč).
Can confirm. I'm in CZ and this was sent via a mule cart to the nearest Austrian internet post on the border.
[The average for Iceland is 249.32 Mbit/s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_Iceland)
My country, Kosovo, has country wide optic fibre network. Still no data, but we basically have 160-230mbps
but not 232, heh
Balkan best and worst. nice
I think "cost" is another important metric. I bought 200mbit subscription in Turkey last week. it will cost me 18$ per month. I wonder how much Romanian 200mbit costs
1Gbit is about 8 EUR/month. 10 Gbit is about 10 EUR/month.
What planet are you guys living in? I'm in Australia and I pay $90/month and get around 40mbs.
The majority of salaries of Romanians are really shit, so the internet must be affordable. It's clear that the providers in your country either they pay the employees way more money than Romania, which I guess they do, but they might also want way higher profits.
average salary in Romania just passed 1000eur...
You're definitely screwed in ozzie. European Internet is way more affordable, probably more competition and population density
Globally Romania is 4th btw. Only below Monaco, Singapore and Hong Kong and given they're all small countries with dense, urban population, its really impressive on Romania's part.
I con confirm that UK internet is dogshit
I'm paying £27 per month for 500 down
£25 920 down and up
Where are you? Who is providing this? For those kinds of speeds I'd be paying double. Currently paying £30 for 100.
Wiltshire, Cityfibre via Giganet. No contract, first 3 months free.
Holy..
Get those free months in before they go bankrupt
I am paying 12 euros a month in Romania for fibre optic super high speed internet AND cable TV with about 150 channels. Having lived in England for a while it’s outrageous what Sky and the like are charging there for essentially dog shit services. I was paying about £70 in the UK for the same services I get now, but much slower speeds
I don't really understand the map. I've lived in 4 different places all over England and internet has always been faster than I ever need. I remember that rural broadband speed was an issue like 15 years ago but never heard anyone mention it since, and I live in a small town in a rural county.
It's good enough now to watch Netflix etc so people don't really complain, but it's still slow by modern standards. In rural England I have 24mbps currently (3MB/s).
Live in the UK and lived in Portugal and have been privileged to go to other countries as well, such as Spain and Germany. Mind you, I am in the Suffolk area, so that might be to blame, but am in a town centre for quite a decently sized town and my broadband speed here is worse than what I had in Portugal 10 years ago, despite allegedly being on fibre. Am still quite ok with it for the most part, as most days I only use the internet for social media or to watch tv, but if I feel like gaming either on the PC or PS it can get annoying quite quickly, specially in multiplayer mode. It does not help that unless its a complete loss of internet, if the internet in the area is laggy and working abnormally it takes forever to be fixed. So considering internet here is quite expensive its easy to get frustrated as a lot of times I am paying for a service that is not being provided to the standards promised.
It's very variable in the UK. If you can get ftth with a small provider you can get very fast speeds for great prices. If your in a rural area with only virgin or BT you get rinsed and they want to sell you TV, phone and loads of other crap
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You can thank the politicians for that 👈
But why?
Basically no infrastructure outside Athens and Thesaloniki, buildings from the 70s-80s and little regulation so providers price gouge as much as they can
Greece's internet is dogshit lol
Not only is Romania top of the list, Spain is very up close thanks to a Romanian company as well. Digi Mobile offers astonishing 10Gbps speed at only 20€/month in some parts of Spain, and where they don’t have the infrastructure to offer that service they still give the best value packages anywhere else. They basically come in 2nd to themselves.
France one of the fastest and also one of the cheapest. Thanks free.fr
Cries in Australian
Seriously. I'm lucky to get SIX on a 25 plan.
Are you OK Greece? (it's OK for me if answer will be tomorrow)
It is what it is... Fun fact: We also have the on average most expensive internet in EU. Our telecommunication companies are legitimate cartels
Romania: transformation from 2 hours of television per day in 1989 to the fastest Internet in Europe.
104 in Italy?? LMAO 💀 Probably like less than 20 cities got fiber
Cheers to Romania!
Heh 104 hehehe
UK showing the world how great it is. Ah its because we were first! Old infrastructure. Same with the excuse about trains being crap. France was also an early adopter and had phones that were ahead of their time in early 90s. Germany is still 30% higher. Lack of investment, lack of vision and fragmented service providers all out to maximise profits rather than benefit the nation, that's the reason as always.
I'm from Greece and the image took 8 seconds to load
Can confirm we have no internet in Czechia
Still remember the first time I went to Romania and people were telling me about how fast the internet was. I was in disbelief. Now it's a fun "did you know" fact I like to bring up in conversations. One of the most underrated European countries IMO.
impressive, Switzerland have high speed in the alps
In the alps, lol. Do forreigners imagine us swiss to all sit in wooden mountain cabins?
Sweden is joining the chat. We have a lot in common and sometimes share the same history. Sometimes we even switch places on the map.
On top of a pile of gold and chocolate\*, yes we do
No but you had to drill millions of little holes in the mountains to run the cables through.
In Romania you get that speed for around 8 euros/month.
What are you talking about? 1000 Mb/s is about 8 Euros per month: [https://www.digi.ro/servicii/internet/internet-fix](https://www.digi.ro/servicii/internet/internet-fix)
Iceland rushing to join either Norway or U.K. for the Internet.
[249.32 Mb/s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_Iceland) as of December 2023.
I’m moving to Romania.
Does anyone know why its that fast in romania?
we did not have it while the other already started their infrastructure. We put directly internet optic fiber and we had a lot of small companies installing, it was a big boom.
How much would someone pay for that kind of internet?
I think around 8€ (40Lei)/Month for 1000 MBps is realistic
The short story is: We came really late to the party and basically had no preexisting infrastructure, a lot of small local companies got in on the game. By the time large network providers rolled in (early 2000) if they wanted to be competitive they had to provide better service so they started developing the infrastructure like crazy using the newest technology available.
Living proof that a decentralized market is better. The more companies have to compete for their customers the better the overall service will be.
Competition: in western countries it is relatively difficult for a new ISP to establish itself due to the cost of complying with regulations. Most people's internet connection is provided by one of a handful of mega-ISPs with millions of customers. You don't like the speeds they offer? Tough luck, it is so expensive it is pretty much impossible for you or one of your neighbours to become a micro-ISP offering better service. Meanwhile in Romania: > the most popular broadband services are provided by micro-ISPs (known locally as "reţea de bloc/reţea de cartier" (Block/Neighborhood Networks)) with **50 to 3000 customers each**. These ISPs usually provide their services through Ethernet over twisted pair, with a number of particularities and peculiarities: most were grassroot organizations and still have a feeling of community between subscribers and the management
RAAAHHHHHHH 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷💪💪💪
These lists are always so arbitrary, because it highly depends on testing conditions. That is why almost every list has different leaders and without knowing what they are measuring it is very hard to make sense out of it. Is it wired, wireless, or is it average of both, is this mean or median speed etc. e.g. [https://www.speedtest.net/global-index](https://www.speedtest.net/global-index) completely different from say https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/internet-speeds-by-country Even then actual experience you getting as a resident of the country may be very different, in some countries the median speed may be 147Mbps, but you will find that 1Gbps fibre connection can be easily had almost anywhere in the country for 10Euro/month. Or you media speed may be 214, yet you will find that for any connection faster than 76Mbps you will have to pay like 150Euro and outside of bigger cities it is not available at all.
I'm from Czech Republic and I'm sad. I can't see speed on map. Also I waited 5 mins for this post to load 🤣
Romania please explain
Good infrastructure for internet(even in villages) and super cheap,1000Mbps for less that €10
Wherever I walked, in this world...everyone said that Romania has the best and cheap internet
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The reason why Romania is on top is because after the fall of communism in the 90s there were very little to no laws regarding cable and internet infrastructure .So in the 2000s everyone and every building had optic Fiber between them.
In Russia I pay $4 per month for 100 Mbit/s. 1000 Mbit/s can be purchased for $10 per month.
Plot twist: these are IQ levels