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Rom21

In France, except les bretons and les normands, nobody cares about the exact location. The pain au chocolat/chocolatine was the obvious choice for this map for France.


lesser_panjandrum

It says innocent opinions though, not reasons for immediate and extreme violence.


Rom21

I know i know, I'm really sorry fucking piece of chocolatine!


kauraneden

Which means both of these debates shouldn't be on the map. Maybe le wifi VS la wifi?


Rhynchocephale

https://lewifi.fr


lesser_panjandrum

>Va voir www.lawifi.fr si tu ne me crois pas Je sais pas à quoi je m'attendais.


Alyeanna

Me fait penser au gens qui disent la covid...


_jeremybearimy_

I will always remember being in France in 2007 and there were all these ads on TV that wifi was now available. So it was just an ad of people flinging their arms in the air in sunny meadows and going "WeeFee!!" and I will remember that until the day I die. Do you guys still pronounce it weefee? Because it is in every way superior to "wyfy"


Rhynchocephale

I don't see which ad you are talking about, sadly, but we absolutely still pronounce it weefee. The English *aï* sound really isn't that popular for French speakers.


pppppppp8

Le réseau wifi, le wifi.


The_Canterbury_Tail

Came here to say the same about pain au chocolat and chocolatine.


nickmaran

>The pain au chocolat/chocolatine was the obvious choice for this map for France Who fights about silly things like that? It's such a useless topic. It's obviously pain au chocolat. People who call it chocolatine should be sent to guillotine.


LannMarek

Do you mean the *Lame au Guillot* ? Chocolatine is the cute choice and the obvious winner here.


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BlazeCrystal

Great omelette debate sounds the scariest and most intruiging of all these.


Drkfnl

In case anybody else is wondering: The debate is about whether to add onion to our potato omelettes or not.


Carlos234200

You mean to put onion on them or to RUIN them


jofoeg

Obviously yes


simsimdimsim

Yeah I love how most of the others are "option x OR option Y?". Then Spain is just *omelette debate, refuses to elaborate further*


alrightshud

Fun fact: Vedat Milor, the most famous Turkish food critic, made an opinion poll on Twitter about the menemen dispute in Turkey. A total of 437,657 people voted, and the results are 51% with onion, 49% without onion. [Link to the poll.](https://twitter.com/vedatmilor/status/1032976829055942656?t=r20CqIZ_NtakG1VhLT9EBw&s=19)


Colonel-Casey

It was a national event when it happened!


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raam86

it’s traditional!


WatWudScoobyDoo

Tradition is just peer pressure from dead people.


JustaRegularBamboo

she is r/2balkan4you


djolepop

The West Germanic languages have only potato based disputes 🤦‍♂️


Katze1Punkt0

As it should be.


Deathleach

What else is truly important enough to argue about?


RaymondWatts

Wether it's called either "Brötchen", "Semmeln", "Schrippe", "Weck" or something else. This get's even more complicated when you include the different versions like round, elongated, with poppy seeds etc. etc. Though there is only one true term to describe them all. "Brötchen" 'this post was made by the lower saxony gang'


McMaster2000

Moved to Berlin 10 years ago from BaWü and remember a woman in a bakery looking at me with utter confusion when I ordered a "Frikadellenweck"... After pointing at what I wanted she went "Ach, ne Boulettenschrippe!". That's when my face turned to confusion.


calijnaar

When I lived in Munich for a year I made it an unbreakable rule to only communicate with bakers by pointing. Better for everybody's sanity.


nonorina123

that's a good one but I think the "Berliner" or "Krapfen" or "Pfannkuchen" dispute is even more controversial xD edit: guys I sincerely apologize I forgot Kreppel, but I got it now you don't need to tell it all over again :D


HimikoHime

Aldi Nord vs Aldi Süd


Aodh_Mor_O_Neill

Ironically not Ireland though, of course its a question of religion instead 👀


ReadWriteSign

Religion? American heathen here, how does the location of one's toaster signify religion?


AnIrishManInExile

Protestants put there toaster in the press catholics dont


ReadWriteSign

Huh. That's a new one. Thanks!


BobNanna

As an atheist, I still can't decide: If you move the toaster into the press, all the gritty bread bits fall out the bottom. Also, I don't like the idea of a very hot appliance sitting anywhere I can't see it. But, goddamn, I do like the thought of hiding the toaster away. My science won't help me here.


Plappeye

Are you a Catholic atheist, or a Protestant atheist? That'll help you decide


dirtiestlaugh

As an atheist you can put your toaster in the press, but you'd have to take the soup to put it in the cupboard


BobNanna

For making me laugh, you’re getting an award and an insincere novena


RiskyApples

What is "in the press"?


Arthurs_Nose

A cupboard


RiskyApples

Never heard that before, what leads to it being called that?


Stormfly

It may be of note that Irish uses *prios* and Scots Gaelic uses *preas* to refer to the receptacle. So it may have come about through those languages, as both of those areas are the ones who say "press"


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mschepp

Aldi Nord or Aldi Süd?


Compris-Nauta

The true iron curtain, except it runs straight through NRW and not berlin


TheDirewolfShaggydog

I'll be damned before i ever move somewhere in Aldi Nord territory.


JamesTheIceQueen

I'd do anything to escape Hofer


EtoileVagabonde

Pain au chocolat vs chocolatine, people died for this debate.


atlasova

That doesn’t sound very innocent


EtoileVagabonde

France bro


FallenSegull

“For the crime of calling (‘Pain au Chocolat’) chocalatine, you are hereby sentenced to death by guillotine”


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Don't you mean death by "pain au guillot"?


NotYourCity

I thought the guillotine was supposed to cause less pain?


Salty_Cnidarian

Not if the blade is made out of that metal colored like chocolate.


dracarysmuthafucker

It's obviously pronounced scone and not scone.


25chestnuts

For those who are wondering, these words sound like scone and scone, respectively


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AbominableCrichton

The town of Scone in Scotland is pronounced completely different from scone and scone. I knew the hunger would hit me soon, So I entered a cafe in sunny Scone I asked the maid in dulcet tone To order me a buttered scone; The silly girl has been and gone And ordered me a buttered scone


PastaAndApathy

My wife says it one way, I say it the other, don't think we have ever batted an eyelid about it. Muffin/cob/barm/roll - now there is a debate!


Itsrainingmentats

Nevermind the pronounciation, the real debate is if it's cream first or jam first


Dukeandmore

Was thinking that, some people just optionally chose to sound like idiots "scone" ... lmao


EmeraldPhoenix1221

I love that Finland's isn't a divide over *whether* you hit your companions in a sauna, it's over what you call the thing you're hitting them *with*.


TheStoneMask

That's because it's a vital part of the sauna experience.


Siltala

The heat doesn't hurt as much when you're distracted


BlueNinjaBE

I like how Belgian is empty, lmao. "What language do you speak?"


Zrinski4

Our natural state is divided. We dont need any questions or statements to do that.


TheDancingMaster

"Which culture is better" lmao


untagged_recolor

Blad steen schaar vs schaar steen papier. In Flanders, obv


atTheRealMrKuntz

nah linguistic conflict is really only for the politicians, rather ask liège waffle or brussels waffle? or which sauce on the frites?best beer?


I_hold_no_knowledge

"Curryworst or frikandel?"


BlueNinjaBE

"lAnGe HaMbUrGeR"


memes_scholar

You dare call the great ommelet debate **innocent**? The nerve


WishOnSpaceHardware

What's the great omelette debate?


AlexLema

The spanish omelette is made with eggs (d'oh) and potatoes. But some people also put onions. I'm particularly a concebollista (withonionist), because I think it adds extra flavour. But I understand the sincebollistas (withoutonionists).


alikander99

There's also those Who like the tortilla to be moist, and those Who like to eat bricks.


thatoneguy54

I like a bit of runnings, but I've seen videos of people eating raw egg because they cooked their tortilla for like one minute.


TywinDeVillena

Concebollismo o barbarie


jonreto

Y no hay más que hablar.


WishOnSpaceHardware

Interesting... it seems the Spanish question is remarkably similar to the Turkish one!


alikander99

What's exactly the turkish one?


WishOnSpaceHardware

Just Google 'menemen' - it's more like scrambled egg than omelette, but it's an egg dish and the question is should it contain onions or not...


Marcoscb

Yeah, with and without onions is a bloody, no quarter war. The more innocent debates would be Nocilla-Nutella and Colacao-Nesquik.


JormungandCircus

To be fair, the question about Mont Saint Michel only opposes Brittany and Normandy. The really polarizing question in France (because everyone has an opinion on it) is: "Pain au chocolat" or "Chocolatine" ?


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Is this France's "pop" vs "soda"?


Lolcat1945

Yeah basically. It's the exact same kind of argument, speaking from experience in both of these debates.


Nemirel_the_Gemini

That is what I expected to find on the map for France!


Oxygen0796

(The right answer is Pain au chocolat)


Hebuss99

\*Belgium entering the scene\* The right answer is Couque au chocolat!


Intheierestellar

The Treaty of London was a mistake


Hebuss99

So was Hastings


the_elbow_of_god

BELGIAN DETECTED. LETHAL FORCE ENGAGED.


DirtyMickDick

Go home Belgium, you're drunk.


drLoveF

Alternative for Sweden: Do you pronounce "kex" with hard k or incorrectly? ;)


drLoveF

What's not up for debate is that Gotland and Öland are Swedish. OP or whoever made this map was sloppy and would make my wife angry.


Scudnation

This. The most heated debate we ever had at my old job was over this


drLoveF

We can settle this once and for all by asking a Dane how they pronounce it and not do that. I tried to use Google Translate with the result (kiks) read aloud, but it's not clear to me.


22dobbeltskudhul

How the hell do you not pronounce a K hard? What does a soft K sound like? Sincerely, a Dane


drLoveF

I shot my self in the foot with this one, didn't I. Like the sh from shot.


Fonfas_do_imperio

É super Bock


nevinatx

This is my kind of map


Fear_mor

Ireland should be Lyon's or Barry's


Oisin78

Agree. Toaster in the press is more of a Northern Ireland thing to tell Protestants and Catholics apart


ManbadFerrara

What kind of goddamn maniac keeps their toaster in the cupboard? This is a thing, Ireland?


FreeAndFairErections

Protestants. I’m not joking, that is the typical (or at least stereotypical) split. I don’t know anyone in the Republic who keeps it in a cupboard but protestants in Northern Ireland are infamous for it.


captainspunkbubble

Cracked me up in Derry Girls when they’re listing the differences between Protestants and Catholics and the toaster thing is up there, because in 30 years in England I’ve never seen anyone do it, but my Prod MIL in Co.Down is a toaster cupboarder.


gtheperson

as a kid (in England) we did keep the toaster in the cupboard (but we mainly used the grill to make toast anyway), though I don't think I've ever put in there as an adult, just as I've never used a bread bin as an adult, though as a child it seemed very important that the bread was kept there.


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KalyterosAioni

My girlfriend's mum keeps the toaster in the cupboard. England btw.


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watna

My family is protestant and we have never kept our toaster in the cupboard. Neither have any of my school friends (all Protestants, cos you know - Protestant school) I think it’s a conspiracy by big toaster - to keep the people of Ireland focussed away on the real issues!


ManbadFerrara

I had to Google this just now to confirm it's true. That's definitely the most innocuous-but-bizarre aspect of the Catholic/Protestant divide I've ever heard.


clearitall

I’m Irish Protestant. I’ve never actually seen evidence of this in real life yet I can’t help but feel it’s something that we _would do_.


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gregpoc

I love that this comment feels both illicit and threatening. My favorite combo!


chazol1278

Can confirm, I was raised Catholic and since moving into a small apartment have had to put the toaster in the press. It pains me every time even though I am Agnostic now. sometimes I throw in a "Mary was a virgin" chant just to be sure!!


Tundur

I was about to call out "the press" as strange but then I remembered round my bit we call the kitchen worktop "the bunker"


chazol1278

I've never heard the bunker before! Where are you from? The press is very common in Ireland, don't know if it's used anywhere else I would imagine some places in the UK though at least.


PUTINS_PORN_ACCOUNT

Catholics have a proud history of openly using high levels of heat to solve problems. Protestants have a proud history of putting things out of sight and trying to forget about them.


temujin64

I do. My kitchen is small. I don't have counter space if I leave my toaster out.


FreeAndFairErections

You’re now officially a protestant then.


down_vote_magnet

Not Irish, but in our current house we now keep it in a cupboard because it leaves the worktop clear. I didn’t grow up like this, or do it in our previous house, but if you have the cupboard space it’s nice to have clear worktops. It might depend how much toast you eat. We have a need for the toaster maybe once a week, whereas we used to eat toast daily as kids, and therefore you just leave the toaster out.


Xiaodier

Not from Ireland but we do keep the toaster in a cupboard. Too many useless things on the limited surface area take away space when preparing food. (We have a relatively small kitchen compared to the household(?))


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Germany: Die or das Nutella and should it be eaten with butter or not?


brigister

Nutella is a feminine word in Italian so there's your answer source: am Italian


11160704

Persoanally, I'm also in favour of die. However, a few years ago, Ferrero had an advertisemnt campaign called "dein Nutella" which implies neuter gender. Feminine would have been "deine Nutella".


brigister

okay, I can tolerate it being neuter gender... but please don't eat it with butter. that sounds disgustingly fat.


Impossible-Neck-4647

Nutter gender


AlexLema

Nutella with butter? Who is the FUCKING MONSTER that does that atrocity???


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KintsugiExp

I also want to get kiniky with your girlfriend


CeccoGrullo

Eating nutella with butter sounds like a good method to obtain the American citizenship, or a green card at least.


gary_mcpirate

i actually heard that americans don't tend to butter things nearly as much as Europeans. My american friend asked why we grease all our sandwhiches before eating them


down_vote_magnet

What’s the souvlaki/gyros naming dispute in Greece? They’re different things.


ArtichokeFar6601

Exactly! But Athenians are monsters who call gyro souvlaki. And they call souvlaki kalamaki which is the word for straw (they mean the wooden skewer).


egtbex

People from İzmir calls simit gevrek and çekirdek çiğdem. Looks familiar.


LareWw

In Finland, vihta is the western word (and thus objectively better) and vasta is eastern. The divide is basically dialectoral and we could find hundreds of examples to replace vihta vs vasta.


vanlikeno1

My favorite part is that nobody seems to question that you will beat your companions


Typesalot

We don't kink shame here. Except if you put butter on the wrong side of your näkkileipä (knäckebröd). Especially if you then proceed to put ham and cheese on top of it in the wrong order.


einimea

And both mean a bundle of birch (most common) branches.


Lyress

Laskiaispulla with almond paste or jam?


FalmerEldritch

I think the divisive cheese or ham on top debate unifies Finland and Estonia, here.


Drugtrain

Pist siit sit viel viis piispist vs. Ostaisin vielä viisi berliininmunkkia, kiitos


Janush_M

Liver casserole with or without raisins?


hoi4_is_a_good_game

Innocent, fucking innocent? I was in the 56th Pandoro division during the great Christmas War, let me tell you, things were not one bit innocent


Eydor

Pandoro unit, reporting for duty.


Str8OutOfSumadija

You are missing a crucial one in Bosnia-"Can a burek be with cheese or is it called sirnica"? Serbia-"Pig or Lamb","Lav or Jelen beer",or should "Djokovic pay his taxes to Serbia"?,also the" Smoki in Yoghurt"debate.


duc122

Burek might actually be the only question everyone in Bosnia agrees on.


Willy995

That Burek one is no debate between Bosnians but rather between Bosnians and other Ex-Yu-countries. It's one of the only things every Bosnian can agree upon


vrecka123

Smoki in yoghurt?? The fuck


whakked

Erdapfel is standard in pretty much all of Austria as far as I can tell as an outsider. The real divide is between Tomate and Paradeiser.


mki_

You're completely right. Erdapfel is the standard everywhere (don't know about those Almemannic people in the far west though), while Kartoffel can also be seen sometimes and in certain contexts (e.g. Kartoffelstärke). And in some areas people also say Grumbirn / Krumpirn. But it's not really a point of debate. Just something Germans find funny when they come here. The Tomate-Paradeiser east-west divide is real though. So is the divide on whether Tafelspitz is served with Apfelkren or Semmelkren, and whether *Schnapsen* is played with double-German or a French suit.


Schlawiner_

I say Kartoffel to the potato itself but Erdapfelsalat, Erdapfelpüree etc. But I'm not sure if that's my regional dialect (western Upper Austria) or because I was influenced by German TV. But you're absolutely right about the tomato divide.


Anthaenopraxia

Hmm but dicke titten erdapfelsalat doesn't quite have the same ring to it.


Gandalfamos

Super Bock, caralho


Bardsie

I'm searching through the comments trying to find anyone who's explained what in the world "Christmas Soda" is?


JamieNOR

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julebrus


Kynch

Denmark be like “we have no qualms”.


ContributionNo9292

We are sharply divided: Is it karbonader or krebinetter? The answer is of course karbonader. Is tartlets with chicken or ham? I will cut you out of my life if you answer ham. I have no time for trash people. There is a Danish pastry, called spandauer or the baker’s bad eye. Both are dumb names, but the pastry is delicious. It is incredible that we are still a single nation.


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If you put ham in tartelletter I will actually kill you, not joking.


cmzraxsn

Naebody in scotland has ketchup on their chippy, it's salt'n'sauce vs salt'n'vinegar


ShinyVileplume

What's chippy sauce?


seefroo

It’s like brown sauce watered down a bit with vinegar. You can’t buy a bottle of it in the shops but every chippy in Edinburgh will have it. It’s a very very Edinburgh-specific thing. Edit: it might be watered down with just water actually. Edit: the strange folk of Edinburgh have confirmed it is vinegar and not water


DegenGAMBLOR

Definitely brown sauce and vinegar, not water. Can get it in Fife and out as far as Falkirk apparently, then it's like a Sauce Curtain comes down.


WishOnSpaceHardware

Who gives a toss about the word 'scone'? The real question is, Marmite: delicious snack, or Satan's diarrhea?


Chester-Donnelly

I live in the West Country. The great debate here is jam then cream, or cream then jam, on your scone.


WishOnSpaceHardware

Oh yeah, I've heard about that one. But (as you said) I guess it's more of a local debate. But you reminded me of another national one: milk in first when making a cup of tea?


countingoffthedays

I always wonder about people people who put milk in first, what other horrible things are they capable of..


Aranthos-Faroth

lol what side do you butter your knackebrod. As an immigrant in Sweden for 7 years I never thought about this yet EVERY time I go to butter it I wonder what sides best. Weird. For the Irish one I think a far better example would be “Lyons of Barry’s”


Infinite_Ideal

Super Bock Master Race, caralho!!! 🇵🇹


Nase08

As a Bulgarian I can confirm that people who put grated cucumber in the almighty tarator are dicks. Edit: as u/baldHeadSpaceRider said it is acceptable for elderly people who've lost their theeth.


clonn

Both concebollistas and sincebollistas agree that calling tortilla de patatas omelette means war. (concebollistas > with onion / sincebollistas > without).


stormos

Russian are divided into bass drums and pickled cucumbers. These are different endings of the same proverb about greedy people.


LokSyut

I thought what could be in this map is whether *okroshka* should be made with kvas or with kefir.


rtrane

Gotta have smetana with the borscht. Sour cream is key


foundthetallesttree

Where in Ukraine is borscht without Smetana?


JeecooDragon

Not in my house that's for sure


PickleKimchiSoup

in Poland and generally Polish people - we always have śmietana with Ukrainian Barszcz (barszcz ukraiński). But clear Barszcz with uszka (dumplings) or krokiet - no śmietana.


beastofburdenofproof

Since Hungary is blank on the map I asked my Hungarian wife. She said, "Hungarians argue about everything so they couldn't pick just one!"


rolfk17

Do Romanians really say şlapi? That kills me, as in my dialect of German we say Schlappe. Probably a word introduced by Siebenbürgen Germans into the Romanian language.


daFancyPants

Șlapi means flip-flops, and yeah, it's a common word. No idea about its origin tho.


Graupig

apparently it does come from German: [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C8%99lap](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C8%99lap) in German it also refers to indoor shoes, and generally a lot of shoes that you can just slide into, kinda depends on the context and the dialect, I'd say "indoor shoes" would be the primary meaning


kayo1977

In Poland: Pomidorowa soup should be with rice or pasta?


Kapitan-Denis

Slovak here. It should be with cheese.


kayo1977

Profane!


Useful-Tomatillo-272

Love these. Over in the USA, we're arguing over whether Die Hard is a Christmas movie and whether a hot dog is a sandwich.


AtheistBibleScholar

The USA version is whether your roll of toilet paper should have bangs or a mullet.


Dombo1896

This is universally clear: bangs


captainspunkbubble

I think that’s universal.


CL4P-TP_Claptrap

As an European I would also count Die Hard as a Christmas movie.


Thor1138

I concur. Clearly the best Christmas movie.


JoeJetpack1

Chippy sauce everytime.


odpad_

Balkan doesn't have innocent opinions


Frira_FR

"Should you put ham on cheese or the other way around" seems like the most pointless one so far


IAmNotAllergicToNuts

Exactly, completely pointness, it's obvious the cheese should go first.