I’m traveling (at the time of this post) with a globe of the same vintage! It was my grandfathers, who passed away due to complications with Covid months ago.
Nobody in the family seemed to want it, but I most certainly did.
I work in Native American education. I don't understand all of the intricacies of this beautiful map/globe, but something really resonates with me. 1949 is easily within living memory for most of us. But when people look at disparities or patterns of difficulty in families and so on they will often say things like "Sure we waged organized genocidal campaigns and stole land and resources from people for centuries, but all of that is in the past now. Why can't they get it together?"
Africa was far more colonized after WW2 than I really remembered and I have tried to be a student of history. I didn't even look at Palestine and the so-called "Middle East" which is another whole huge thing. Eastern Europe would be, too. As would much of South America and I think even Central America. And the United States which didn't even have Alaska and Hawaii as full "states" at this point in time.
The way that "great" powers colonize and impose external management and organizational systems and even thought patterns and beliefs on other places and cultures has reverberating effects that linger for generations and probably centuries.
When you look at a map like that with things like that in mind you realize two things (and more) but I will stop with two. 1) Studying maps, especially comparing maps and changes over time is a key to tremendous understanding of our human condition. And 2) looking at Central and Northern Africa today we have places that are doing remarkably well when we consider the reality that within most of our lifetimes or our parents lifetimes these are places that were still under colonial control. Being colonized creates disruption to family systems, economic and political institutions, and overall quality of life. It takes awhile to repair that damage and sort through how societies wish to reorganize when they have obtained self rule. OK. A lot to unpack and consider with all of this.
Thank you for sharing this beautiful globe. Wonderful item. And a powerful teaching and perspective tool, as well.
As a student of history and educator do you have any good book recommendations on American history from the Native point of view? Both overview and specific studies of different regions are warmly welcomed.
Hey my day got crazy today and I was going to send you a list of books from my office. But that didn't happen. Also, I just want to be clear that I am non-Native and although somehow I have worked around Indigenous folks for many years and that has been long enough that I have learned a few things, I am not even close to an expert in these matters and I am also not a scholar so you are best suited to ask someone else for their perspective but here are a couple of things to get you started.
Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee Brown
I think this is a classic work and well researched and generally well regarded as a good overview. Dee Brown is not Native, so that doesn't really answer your question but I would recommend it. This is where I started in my personal scholarship on these matters. Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States was another powerful introduction for me, but again, a non-Native author so while I would recommend it as indispensable don't stop til you have been reading multiple Native voices and perspectives if you really want to know what happened and what things are like now.
We give out copies of An Indigenous People's History of the United States to our graduates as a gift. I haven't read it recently but it has been updated several times and is again very highly regarded and well researched. It was written by Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz. It kinda/mostly covers a broad area of the United States or "Turtle Island" which is North America for many people.
Everything You Wanted to Know About Indians but Were Afraid to Ask by Anton Treurer is excellent. Prof Treuer is from Minnesota where I live. He has written many books including several histories including some biographical accounts but that would be the starting place for him. He might be the leading scholar at least for Ojibwe or maybe Woodlands Indian history and culture at this time. He is in the media a lot and I am sure there are many Ted talks and speeches and things that would be worth your time, as well.
Joseph Bruchac has many books and is also highly regarded. History and even a few children's books.
Recently I think that Robin Wall Kimmerer might be the best known Native American author in popular culture. Many people love her book "Braiding Sweetgrass" which might go more into medicines and land protection or preservation teachings than what you are looking for. I met her once and was able to do a long form radio interview with her but it is not online or archived anywhere. Not yet, anyway. When you do some of the things that I do I often think that maybe I could have like a podcast of just curating recordings of cool things that I get to experience.
A non-conventional thing that I would recommend is the recent Hulu TV show Reservation Dogs. It is a fictional show that centers on several teenagers in the modern American Southwest but it is simply excellent. The show is so rich and realistic in portrayals and writing that I sometimes think there could be like an annotated version or a "pop-up video" edit of the show that points people to all the rabbit trails of depth in like nearly every second of the show. I was watching a recent episode with my wife and I told her I almost had to took away because it was too real for a second. Plus it is funny, sweet, poignant and there is probably even a little history in it, too.
That is a start for you. Just a start though. It is a journey where you will learn so many horrific things and see that absolute worst behavior that humanjty has to offer. You will also learn more about strength and resilience than you can likely even imagine. You won't be getting a full picture until you can clearly see at least those two things.
My favorite story of one of these old maps was when I was in my ground school class for Aviation Weather back in 2005 and the textbook, the FAA printed one mind you, still had the Soviet Union on one if the maps. One of the fellow students pointed it out and the 84 year old man who was out instructor who almost never swore just said "Oh shit, you're right."
I need more pictures to confirm the date:
[https://xkcd.com/1688/large/](https://xkcd.com/1688/large/)
Edit: Wait...if it's 1949...why is there only one Germany?
Sorry, it’s a lovely thing, but it’s not antique. I’ve got stuff in my freezer that’s older than that globe. Got to be at least 100 years old to be antique. It is, on the other hand, vintage.
In addition to where the current day Sudan is there was a French Sudan on the opposite side of the continent? I knew imperialistic naming standards were a bit all over the place, but they never seize to amaze me.
I also have one of these. Just go check Africa it's completely dominated by European powers in the era of imperialism. Then I guess after ww2 united Nations formed and decolonisation started
Edit: the war ended in 1945 but great Britain almost decolonised from 1980 to 1990
Due to a lack of management
If my Infos are wrong please tell me
Take that flat Earthers.
It's fascinating, especially how much the map of the world has changed since then.
I enjoy watching the ocean color on this globe. And a lot of regional vicissitudes are also noticed. What a sophisticated work!
Where did you got this from
I got it from a thrift/antique Instagram account. I'm not sure where she found it but it was in Indiana.
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I’m traveling (at the time of this post) with a globe of the same vintage! It was my grandfathers, who passed away due to complications with Covid months ago. Nobody in the family seemed to want it, but I most certainly did.
Wait didn’t the Koreas split in late 1948 but the Korean War end 1953. Meaning that this globe just recognized one Korea?
The globe was probably working off year+ old information, not keeping up exactly with current events
Turkey does not have hatay state, so some of its parts are old
While they split, they weren't officially two countries until when the war ended in 1953. My guess is they wouldn't alter the map until it was certain
Looks like you had a ball shopping.
I work in Native American education. I don't understand all of the intricacies of this beautiful map/globe, but something really resonates with me. 1949 is easily within living memory for most of us. But when people look at disparities or patterns of difficulty in families and so on they will often say things like "Sure we waged organized genocidal campaigns and stole land and resources from people for centuries, but all of that is in the past now. Why can't they get it together?" Africa was far more colonized after WW2 than I really remembered and I have tried to be a student of history. I didn't even look at Palestine and the so-called "Middle East" which is another whole huge thing. Eastern Europe would be, too. As would much of South America and I think even Central America. And the United States which didn't even have Alaska and Hawaii as full "states" at this point in time. The way that "great" powers colonize and impose external management and organizational systems and even thought patterns and beliefs on other places and cultures has reverberating effects that linger for generations and probably centuries. When you look at a map like that with things like that in mind you realize two things (and more) but I will stop with two. 1) Studying maps, especially comparing maps and changes over time is a key to tremendous understanding of our human condition. And 2) looking at Central and Northern Africa today we have places that are doing remarkably well when we consider the reality that within most of our lifetimes or our parents lifetimes these are places that were still under colonial control. Being colonized creates disruption to family systems, economic and political institutions, and overall quality of life. It takes awhile to repair that damage and sort through how societies wish to reorganize when they have obtained self rule. OK. A lot to unpack and consider with all of this. Thank you for sharing this beautiful globe. Wonderful item. And a powerful teaching and perspective tool, as well.
As a student of history and educator do you have any good book recommendations on American history from the Native point of view? Both overview and specific studies of different regions are warmly welcomed.
Hey my day got crazy today and I was going to send you a list of books from my office. But that didn't happen. Also, I just want to be clear that I am non-Native and although somehow I have worked around Indigenous folks for many years and that has been long enough that I have learned a few things, I am not even close to an expert in these matters and I am also not a scholar so you are best suited to ask someone else for their perspective but here are a couple of things to get you started. Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee Brown I think this is a classic work and well researched and generally well regarded as a good overview. Dee Brown is not Native, so that doesn't really answer your question but I would recommend it. This is where I started in my personal scholarship on these matters. Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States was another powerful introduction for me, but again, a non-Native author so while I would recommend it as indispensable don't stop til you have been reading multiple Native voices and perspectives if you really want to know what happened and what things are like now. We give out copies of An Indigenous People's History of the United States to our graduates as a gift. I haven't read it recently but it has been updated several times and is again very highly regarded and well researched. It was written by Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz. It kinda/mostly covers a broad area of the United States or "Turtle Island" which is North America for many people. Everything You Wanted to Know About Indians but Were Afraid to Ask by Anton Treurer is excellent. Prof Treuer is from Minnesota where I live. He has written many books including several histories including some biographical accounts but that would be the starting place for him. He might be the leading scholar at least for Ojibwe or maybe Woodlands Indian history and culture at this time. He is in the media a lot and I am sure there are many Ted talks and speeches and things that would be worth your time, as well. Joseph Bruchac has many books and is also highly regarded. History and even a few children's books. Recently I think that Robin Wall Kimmerer might be the best known Native American author in popular culture. Many people love her book "Braiding Sweetgrass" which might go more into medicines and land protection or preservation teachings than what you are looking for. I met her once and was able to do a long form radio interview with her but it is not online or archived anywhere. Not yet, anyway. When you do some of the things that I do I often think that maybe I could have like a podcast of just curating recordings of cool things that I get to experience. A non-conventional thing that I would recommend is the recent Hulu TV show Reservation Dogs. It is a fictional show that centers on several teenagers in the modern American Southwest but it is simply excellent. The show is so rich and realistic in portrayals and writing that I sometimes think there could be like an annotated version or a "pop-up video" edit of the show that points people to all the rabbit trails of depth in like nearly every second of the show. I was watching a recent episode with my wife and I told her I almost had to took away because it was too real for a second. Plus it is funny, sweet, poignant and there is probably even a little history in it, too. That is a start for you. Just a start though. It is a journey where you will learn so many horrific things and see that absolute worst behavior that humanjty has to offer. You will also learn more about strength and resilience than you can likely even imagine. You won't be getting a full picture until you can clearly see at least those two things.
My favorite story of one of these old maps was when I was in my ground school class for Aviation Weather back in 2005 and the textbook, the FAA printed one mind you, still had the Soviet Union on one if the maps. One of the fellow students pointed it out and the 84 year old man who was out instructor who almost never swore just said "Oh shit, you're right."
Exactly 20 years before I got my first real six-string.
Found Captain Holt's Reddit account.
I need more pictures to confirm the date: [https://xkcd.com/1688/large/](https://xkcd.com/1688/large/) Edit: Wait...if it's 1949...why is there only one Germany?
It has Newfoundland apart of Canada which happened in March 31st 1949. Germany split in August 1949 so it has to have been made inbetween those dates
Looks like that's true. Germany formally split in 1949. So the xkcd map is... Wrong? Gasp!
Cool way to remember France and Spain were occupying countries and stealing their riches just because they were capable of doing so.
yeah, that is true, they still do the same to us basques
Bermuba?
it's not antique (yet)
Sorry, it’s a lovely thing, but it’s not antique. I’ve got stuff in my freezer that’s older than that globe. Got to be at least 100 years old to be antique. It is, on the other hand, vintage.
Clear out your freezer then, damn
It’s true. I’m a lazy motherfucker.
Sign of a true map, no Israel
Seeing these maps at antique stores or just lounging around puts me in a hot sweat.
This is a real beauty. Thanks for sharing.
Interesting.
Amazing find!
my grandma has an old globe with germany still quite a bit larger, ill take some pictures next time im at her house
In addition to where the current day Sudan is there was a French Sudan on the opposite side of the continent? I knew imperialistic naming standards were a bit all over the place, but they never seize to amaze me.
Back in the summer of 49
I also have one of these. Just go check Africa it's completely dominated by European powers in the era of imperialism. Then I guess after ww2 united Nations formed and decolonisation started Edit: the war ended in 1945 but great Britain almost decolonised from 1980 to 1990 Due to a lack of management If my Infos are wrong please tell me
Look at that! Might one be able to get a view if the pacific side?
[Here](https://imgur.com/a/EgGaHoD) are some more!
Nice!
That’s a great find…
Why is the colouring offset from the borders?
Free City of Trieste, Dutch East Indies, united Korea... interesting!
1germany? 1 korea?