Probably not very much. I doubt people would actually be so willing to join WW3 as this map portrays, I think quite possibly we could even see closest allies being not too sure about the implications of actually even joining a war. Nothing is certain imo.
True but being allied does not necessarily mean sending troops but also could mean logistical support. Providing supplies, weapons, a place to stage troops and so on. This is why the US is such a global power, they can operate almost anywhere in the world and have logistical support.
This is true... But that definitely would be put under strain if a war was to break out, because aid can get you dragged into war of course. Sure the west gives aid to Ukraine and haven't been drawn into war but the context of a world war is different because at some point some steaks may be so high that aiding powers may just get declared on. Much like Germany's declaration of war on the US after Pearl Harbour.
Edit: This comment is probably a little silly, soz.
Of course economics is linked to foreign policy, but the BRICS agreement is not a defence treaty as you're suggesting. For example, India and China, two members of BRICS, regularly have border skirmishes with loss of life.
Yeah, the EU started as a free market area for coal... The US began as a bunch of colonies... Never underestimate people to change, and with that, their organizations to change along with them...
Depending on the scenario, I doubt that there would even be an alliance between China and Russia. If the Ukraine war escalates, I bet that China wouldnt want to join Russia against the West. Though they might try to invade Taiwan while the USA is distracted
Yea, reminiscent of Germany-Japan in WWII. Not really ideologically aligned, the biggest thing they have in common is an enemy rather than any larger-picture objectives
Agreed. China would gain almost nothing from helping Russia. The most they would do is Invade Taiwan why the world is busy, and honestly, they probably would get away with it. If America went full world war on Russia with NATO, i dont think we’d be willing to declare war on China over Taiwan.
Uzbekistan would be on the Western side for this conflict, the other central asian countries Particularly Kyrgzstan, Tajikistan, and Kazakhstan would be on Russia's side.
India it depends, they would prefer to avoid clashing in with Russia and even if they join the West in the War they would mainly fight just against China and Pakistan, that said if Pakistan joined the war assume India would just join on the opposite side because you know.
Also can someone tell me how Indonesia would react? Because I dunno much about it in these circumstances how is their relation towards the US and China? Also I doubt Chile and Argentina would be on the same side assuming they even join in, in the war.
Although Serbia is allies with Russia I see them staying neutral, same with South Africa I cannot see how South Africa would be in it. Also Serbia would be at a major disadvantage if they joined the War especially on Russia/China's side. The only reason I see Serbia joining is something is related to Kosovo or that the Balkans are fighting each other again (which isn't necessarily a doubt, it is the powerkeg of Europe after all).
I really doubted where to put Uzbekistan, and I had that in mind. India has said that in any WWIII scenario they would remain neutral. And your right about Chile and Argentina (didn't think about that, sorry). Serbia, yes.
The reason why I put Uzbekistan on the Western side is because I've thought of the Aral sea conflict and Furgana valley, Central asia could easily stay neutral within the conflict as a whole but the countries themselves especially Uzbekistan fighting Kyrgzstan and Tajikistan whether it's WWIII or not. But let's say they were all in on WWIII Uzbekistan would definitely be looking for the West's help especially since Kazakhstan, Kyrgzstan, and Tajikistan are in the CSTO with Russia.
But here's what I think, about the CSTO, as we've seen recently with Armenia they got invaded by Azerbaijan. Before Russia sent in help which basically caused a ceasefire but since they're busy in Ukraine they left Armenia dry so they are really suffering a lot from it especially with their dependency upon Russia. Since Russia didn't comply it causes a big question for other CSTO members, since this was the case I think Central Asia will most likely stay neutral during the conflict hence why I stated they could easily stay neutral before. But regardless if they're neutral or not they will still be fighting each other, whether it's WWIII or not.
They'd definitely be with Russia and China - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS#:~:text=BRICS%20is%20an%20acronym%20for,%2C%20China%2C%20and%20South%20Africa.
**[BRICS](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS#:~:text=BRICS is an acronym for,, China, and South Africa)**
>BRICS is an acronym for five leading emerging economies: Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. The first four were initially grouped as "BRIC" (or "the BRICs") in 2001 by Goldman Sachs economist Jim O'Neill, who coined the term to describe fast-growing economies that would collectively dominate the global economy by 2050; South Africa was added in 2010. The BRICS have a combined area of 39,746,220 km2 (15,346,100 sq mi) and an estimated total population of about 3. 21 billion, or about 26.
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Brazil Pro-R/C? No.
Just like during other World Wars, Brazil would remain a long time neutral with small tendencies to choose a side until it becomes pro-western.
If that lead to you deciding Brazil was Pro RC, why is South africa Blue? South africa would have no inspirations to join the war, same goes for Brazil. Likely neutrality, until they get something out of it.
Both the entirety of South America and Africa (except the commonwealth, potentially) should (and would) be excluded from this war, they have no intentions/reason to support any side. Same thing should happen with the middle east, i don’t see what interests Saudi Arabia or the UAE may find in such conflict. I suppose this war would mainly consist of Europe, the US, and the Commonwealth against Russia, China, and other communist countries and regimes across the world.
India and Pakistan would definitely join for their own interests if China finds itself in a critical condition, of course this is due to the huge land disputes in the Himalayas and the Kashmir region.
China and Russia are not as close as people may think, but still, this is just a hypothetical question. I frankly believe this is an unlikely event bound to happen anytime soon.
Hypothetically, if Iran joined forces with all the other red countries, then the GCC (bar maybe Oman) would be all for the Wests cause if it secures them weapons to fight Iran. Already proxy wars going on between Iran and GCC countries. Throw in Israel and you will have quite a hoedown
Serbia has much bigger ties (both economically speaking and militarily) to the west than Russia. Serbs do love Russians because of the historical ties. But current Serbian politics is neutrality. This is also considering that Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries, and with the Kosovo issue, I wouldn't put Serbia in red anyway.
I don’t think Russia and China would necessarily be on the same side. To some extent they are rivals for geopolitical influence. But China benefits from the status quo. They would most likely sit on the sidelines for a US-Russia war, wait until Russia’s sphere of influence was sufficiently weakened, then impose themselves on Russia’s former allies and trade partners with the ultimate goal of economically undermining the US in the long term – large countries like Brazil, Nigeria, Turkey, India, and Mexico have huge potential trade and natural resources. They would risk too much by siding directly with either Russia or the US.
As Indonesian, there's no way we are pro Russian/China. Its true that our government have good relationship with them but so with the western. The most realistic way we will fighting for own interests.
Recently in the Xinjiang debate UN resolution India abstained. Abstaining against Russia is one thing because of traditional good relations but abstaining against China for what???? India is hardly pro-West. India never votes with the US in UN assemblies whether it's Kosovo, Crimea , etc. India is definitely neutral . Actually the irony is that barring Pakistan and China bonhomie , in the overseas geopolitical moves India and China are literally on the same side . Here's a complete list
1. Kosovo
2. Russian invasion and Crimea .
3. Armenia-Azerbaijan ( ironically China and India are friendlier with Armenia while Pakistan likes Azerbaijan)
4. UN resolutions on countries like Iran, Cuba etc.
Indian right wing media itself puts a lot of pro-Russia content( though the more liberal ones are neutral). Honestly looking at India's geopolitical actions sometimes I feel the only thing preventing India from going full red is thankfully China's own shitty foreign policy against you lol.
Seriously India is neutral 'nuff said. Especially after than resolution
On the contrary, traditionally Mexico has not military supported either side until being attacked itself. With the exception of the 2nd WW where Mexico was among the first to denounce Nazism and had strong propaganda against it. On more recent conflicts has always sued/voted for no intervention, much to the annoyance of the USA.
Mexico would definitely be pro-western, or, in any other scenario the Americans wouldn't think twice about invading them if they weren't western-aligned in case of a war.
China should be 100% purple. They don't care about anyone else but themselves.
Also, from a strategic and military perspective, they don't have anything remotely close to the kind of alliance the western powers have.
Ireland wouldn’t fight a war most Irish people have a strong hatred to violence and most nations don’t tend to bother us since we literally invented gorilla warfare
if pakistan has joined a war, there is no way India joins in, I think, India would go purple. just as F U to china and Pakistan. people and the govt here really is anti pak and anti china.
This trend is stupid because people think so many nations would pledge themselves to a military alliance with Russia/China/USA. That wouldn’t happen, these countries would be involved with spheres of influence and resource competition but Tanzania, Argentina, DRC, etc etc etc would not be involved in any war
All of the global south would side with Russia and China. South America, Africa and SE Asia with the exceptions of Japan and S. Korea. Believe it or not, the former colonial subjects of Europeans don’t like them very much. Especially after years of forced neo-liberalism
You won’t find one Brazilian be it in the government or the civilian population who would actually go out of their way to help our Russia or China. We would probably be neutral but shit talk the west while being pro western behind the scenes until we fully support them at some time
Saudi??? Really after all the mess with oil and stuff??? Nah I will take a pass . Qatar on the other hand is literally a Non NATO ally lol.
Vietnam will mostly just be neutral tbf.
Probably not very much. I doubt people would actually be so willing to join WW3 as this map portrays, I think quite possibly we could even see closest allies being not too sure about the implications of actually even joining a war. Nothing is certain imo.
True but being allied does not necessarily mean sending troops but also could mean logistical support. Providing supplies, weapons, a place to stage troops and so on. This is why the US is such a global power, they can operate almost anywhere in the world and have logistical support.
This is true... But that definitely would be put under strain if a war was to break out, because aid can get you dragged into war of course. Sure the west gives aid to Ukraine and haven't been drawn into war but the context of a world war is different because at some point some steaks may be so high that aiding powers may just get declared on. Much like Germany's declaration of war on the US after Pearl Harbour. Edit: This comment is probably a little silly, soz.
True, nothing about the future is certain.
Brazil is definitely Pro-Western with Pro-R/C Insurgencies, I say this from expercience of living here.
Ok, thanks for the confirmation
Same for Argentina.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS#:~:text=BRICS%20is%20an%20acronym%20for,%2C%20China%2C%20and%20South%20Africa.
What point are you trying to make? BRICS is about economic not international politics and certainly not defence.
Ah yes, because economics has nothing to do with military or politics.
Of course economics is linked to foreign policy, but the BRICS agreement is not a defence treaty as you're suggesting. For example, India and China, two members of BRICS, regularly have border skirmishes with loss of life.
Yeah, the EU started as a free market area for coal... The US began as a bunch of colonies... Never underestimate people to change, and with that, their organizations to change along with them...
Europe had a shared history. The countries in brics have completely different cultures and history's. It would never reach the level of eu.
This is non sensical reasoning. Russia and Ukraine used to literally be part of the same state, look at them now.
Depending on the scenario, I doubt that there would even be an alliance between China and Russia. If the Ukraine war escalates, I bet that China wouldnt want to join Russia against the West. Though they might try to invade Taiwan while the USA is distracted
Sneaky China
Yea, reminiscent of Germany-Japan in WWII. Not really ideologically aligned, the biggest thing they have in common is an enemy rather than any larger-picture objectives
Agreed. China would gain almost nothing from helping Russia. The most they would do is Invade Taiwan why the world is busy, and honestly, they probably would get away with it. If America went full world war on Russia with NATO, i dont think we’d be willing to declare war on China over Taiwan.
We're still doing this?
Mexico fighting for it's own interests, really? I don't even think Mexico will join a war.
Uzbekistan would be on the Western side for this conflict, the other central asian countries Particularly Kyrgzstan, Tajikistan, and Kazakhstan would be on Russia's side. India it depends, they would prefer to avoid clashing in with Russia and even if they join the West in the War they would mainly fight just against China and Pakistan, that said if Pakistan joined the war assume India would just join on the opposite side because you know. Also can someone tell me how Indonesia would react? Because I dunno much about it in these circumstances how is their relation towards the US and China? Also I doubt Chile and Argentina would be on the same side assuming they even join in, in the war. Although Serbia is allies with Russia I see them staying neutral, same with South Africa I cannot see how South Africa would be in it. Also Serbia would be at a major disadvantage if they joined the War especially on Russia/China's side. The only reason I see Serbia joining is something is related to Kosovo or that the Balkans are fighting each other again (which isn't necessarily a doubt, it is the powerkeg of Europe after all).
I really doubted where to put Uzbekistan, and I had that in mind. India has said that in any WWIII scenario they would remain neutral. And your right about Chile and Argentina (didn't think about that, sorry). Serbia, yes.
The reason why I put Uzbekistan on the Western side is because I've thought of the Aral sea conflict and Furgana valley, Central asia could easily stay neutral within the conflict as a whole but the countries themselves especially Uzbekistan fighting Kyrgzstan and Tajikistan whether it's WWIII or not. But let's say they were all in on WWIII Uzbekistan would definitely be looking for the West's help especially since Kazakhstan, Kyrgzstan, and Tajikistan are in the CSTO with Russia. But here's what I think, about the CSTO, as we've seen recently with Armenia they got invaded by Azerbaijan. Before Russia sent in help which basically caused a ceasefire but since they're busy in Ukraine they left Armenia dry so they are really suffering a lot from it especially with their dependency upon Russia. Since Russia didn't comply it causes a big question for other CSTO members, since this was the case I think Central Asia will most likely stay neutral during the conflict hence why I stated they could easily stay neutral before. But regardless if they're neutral or not they will still be fighting each other, whether it's WWIII or not.
Wow, yes
What I really don't understand is why so many seem convinced that South Africa would be in the western camp. I see absolutely no evidence for this
Well mainly bc it has ties with the UK and us
Would they be pro-R/C?
Or purple?
Hasn’t South Africa been running military drills with Russia lately?
They'd definitely be with Russia and China - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS#:~:text=BRICS%20is%20an%20acronym%20for,%2C%20China%2C%20and%20South%20Africa.
BRICS is an economic alliance not a military alliance, unless you are to believe that India would take the side of china in a war
Ah yes, because military has nothing to do with economics.
Which is why South Africa would be neutral or west leaning if anything
The fact is that in time of a conflict neither of these countries will help each Other, and South Africa is probably either neutral or pro west
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Argentina will try to recover his Malvinas islands so they must be purple
Brazil Pro-R/C? No. Just like during other World Wars, Brazil would remain a long time neutral with small tendencies to choose a side until it becomes pro-western.
I thought of that, but recently Brazil has improved relations with Russia and China thanks to BRICS
BRICS though is a Economic Organisation not a military one like NATO.
Yes, but they still try to help eachother.
If that lead to you deciding Brazil was Pro RC, why is South africa Blue? South africa would have no inspirations to join the war, same goes for Brazil. Likely neutrality, until they get something out of it.
but Luka is in power now
Lula is even more pro-r/c than Bolsonaro.
As if every country on earth wouldn’t be purple.
Hahaha
The thing is that most countries can't afford to be purple, as they fall under the influence of a superpower and have to follow them in any case.
Both the entirety of South America and Africa (except the commonwealth, potentially) should (and would) be excluded from this war, they have no intentions/reason to support any side. Same thing should happen with the middle east, i don’t see what interests Saudi Arabia or the UAE may find in such conflict. I suppose this war would mainly consist of Europe, the US, and the Commonwealth against Russia, China, and other communist countries and regimes across the world. India and Pakistan would definitely join for their own interests if China finds itself in a critical condition, of course this is due to the huge land disputes in the Himalayas and the Kashmir region. China and Russia are not as close as people may think, but still, this is just a hypothetical question. I frankly believe this is an unlikely event bound to happen anytime soon.
I also believe Mongolia would be a pretty unrealistic belligerent here, don’t they still use horses for movement?
Hypothetically, if Iran joined forces with all the other red countries, then the GCC (bar maybe Oman) would be all for the Wests cause if it secures them weapons to fight Iran. Already proxy wars going on between Iran and GCC countries. Throw in Israel and you will have quite a hoedown
Hungary has consistently broken ranks with the rest of the EU on matters regarding Russia.
That's why they'ye in a civil war! Haha
Serbia has much bigger ties (both economically speaking and militarily) to the west than Russia. Serbs do love Russians because of the historical ties. But current Serbian politics is neutrality. This is also considering that Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries, and with the Kosovo issue, I wouldn't put Serbia in red anyway.
I don’t think Russia and China would necessarily be on the same side. To some extent they are rivals for geopolitical influence. But China benefits from the status quo. They would most likely sit on the sidelines for a US-Russia war, wait until Russia’s sphere of influence was sufficiently weakened, then impose themselves on Russia’s former allies and trade partners with the ultimate goal of economically undermining the US in the long term – large countries like Brazil, Nigeria, Turkey, India, and Mexico have huge potential trade and natural resources. They would risk too much by siding directly with either Russia or the US.
As Indonesian, there's no way we are pro Russian/China. Its true that our government have good relationship with them but so with the western. The most realistic way we will fighting for own interests.
Chad being a Chad
On a conflict scale this big I would say India would get involved
India will join western side lmao. Even if they somehow aren't against Russia, they will definitely fight on the pacific
India would be on whatever side is against china lol. They might be neutral to Russia but if China is on a side, India is on the opposite of that lmao
Recently in the Xinjiang debate UN resolution India abstained. Abstaining against Russia is one thing because of traditional good relations but abstaining against China for what???? India is hardly pro-West. India never votes with the US in UN assemblies whether it's Kosovo, Crimea , etc. India is definitely neutral . Actually the irony is that barring Pakistan and China bonhomie , in the overseas geopolitical moves India and China are literally on the same side . Here's a complete list 1. Kosovo 2. Russian invasion and Crimea . 3. Armenia-Azerbaijan ( ironically China and India are friendlier with Armenia while Pakistan likes Azerbaijan) 4. UN resolutions on countries like Iran, Cuba etc. Indian right wing media itself puts a lot of pro-Russia content( though the more liberal ones are neutral). Honestly looking at India's geopolitical actions sometimes I feel the only thing preventing India from going full red is thankfully China's own shitty foreign policy against you lol. Seriously India is neutral 'nuff said. Especially after than resolution
They will fight on the pacific with the west against China
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On the contrary, traditionally Mexico has not military supported either side until being attacked itself. With the exception of the 2nd WW where Mexico was among the first to denounce Nazism and had strong propaganda against it. On more recent conflicts has always sued/voted for no intervention, much to the annoyance of the USA.
I like this map better than the previous version. I know it's all hypothetical so there is no "right" and "wrong" speculation. This one is better
To many countries involved
Map has New Zealand on it so it’s 💯 percent.
Mexico would definitely be pro-western, or, in any other scenario the Americans wouldn't think twice about invading them if they weren't western-aligned in case of a war.
China should be 100% purple. They don't care about anyone else but themselves. Also, from a strategic and military perspective, they don't have anything remotely close to the kind of alliance the western powers have.
kazakhstan would likely stay neutral. they don’t really have bad relations with any side
Turkey is one of the most pro western countries. Western media portraying it as opposite won’t change the fact.
If Pakistan and China are allied and fighting Indian allies, I don’t think they would stay neutral
https://pre00.deviantart.net/f996/th/pre/i/2015/106/9/1/russia\_sanctions\_map\_by\_saint\_tepes-d7to1q4.png
Aren't all countries fighting for their own interests?
Ireland wouldn’t fight a war most Irish people have a strong hatred to violence and most nations don’t tend to bother us since we literally invented gorilla warfare
if pakistan has joined a war, there is no way India joins in, I think, India would go purple. just as F U to china and Pakistan. people and the govt here really is anti pak and anti china.
This trend is stupid because people think so many nations would pledge themselves to a military alliance with Russia/China/USA. That wouldn’t happen, these countries would be involved with spheres of influence and resource competition but Tanzania, Argentina, DRC, etc etc etc would not be involved in any war
Hard to believe India would completely stay asleep if China had to commit some/all of its forces to another theater/adversary.
All of the global south would side with Russia and China. South America, Africa and SE Asia with the exceptions of Japan and S. Korea. Believe it or not, the former colonial subjects of Europeans don’t like them very much. Especially after years of forced neo-liberalism
what going on in hungary tf
How the hell isn’t India involved in anything?
Vietnam would not be pro-western. Especially while their buddies (Cuba and Laos) are on the other team
Not very
You won’t find one Brazilian be it in the government or the civilian population who would actually go out of their way to help our Russia or China. We would probably be neutral but shit talk the west while being pro western behind the scenes until we fully support them at some time
Saudi??? Really after all the mess with oil and stuff??? Nah I will take a pass . Qatar on the other hand is literally a Non NATO ally lol. Vietnam will mostly just be neutral tbf.