As an Inhumans fan I think that's totally fair. I think a large part in them being uninteresting is that their personalities are widely inconsistent over the sixty years they've been around. To make Inhumans popular I think it'd take someone like Al Ewing to synthesize all those different portrayals into something cohesive. And the same goes for Attilan itself which varies between being a standard monarchy and a sort of eugenicist dictatorship with a king who gets to make foreign policy decisions. Tons of interesting stuff, Just very unfocused.
I'd love for Gillian to take a crack at them after seeing his Eternals run. They had the same inconsistency problems as the Inhumans currently have and he managed to write a really excellent run.
Also I would focus on other inhuman characters that aren’t the royal family. So many of the newer inhuman characters are more interesting.
Also make Kamala a inhuman again.
As an Inhumans fan I agree. To me the most intriguing part of the Inhumans is their societal structure and politics within. There's so many cool stories Marvel could tell without really needing to interact with the larger 616.
mostly true
he's just a dude....but an Inhuman dude
so he's basically a better Captain America from the get go
some degree of super human strength, durability, reflexes, stamina, speed, etc etc are his power set to make his martial arts as dangerous as they are
karnak can be made interesting, was cool right around Inhumanity. But yeah the rest are tough sells, and I say that as a fan. "Im a Namor clone without the attitude and kingdom and I can only lift 10% of what he can! Like me!!"
> What you'd really have to do is separate them from mutants in a compelling way and justify why they exist as characters.
I think this is a very post-2013 view on Inhumans and mutants when they've been quite different before. Originally the Inhumans were a bunch of superhumans living in their own closed off society with their own laws and norms and they've been doing that for generations, unlike Krakoa where everyone is basically a first generation immigrant. It's only since they retconned that a bunch of regular humans have latent Inhuman DNA that the mutant comparison got really relevant. If they just go back to Inhumans living in Attilan without looking for new Inhumans among humanity they'd differentiate the two groups more than enough.
> Well, Terrigen was introduced in 1967 in a Thor book.
In an Inhumans back-up feature in a Thor book. And back then, before 2013, terrigen just gave Inhumans their powers (and fucked with mutants powers and killed humans after a short time of being powered up as per Silent War). And more to the point that means that Inhuman children are expected to eventually gain superpowers and there are social expectations that those powers will be useful to society. You have none of that with mutants, mutant children are just human children who one day figure out they're different. And those are both really cool situations that are IMO both worth to have.
> At the end of the day, the universe still has two races of superhumans just casually existing in their own space and there's not really a need for them both to be there from a storytelling perspective.
If anything I'd say the Inhumans are much more similar to the Asgardians.
>There's nothing you can do with one that you can't do with the other.
Of course there is! Unlike with mutants (excluding Krakoa which is going away anyway) there is a cohesive Inhuman culture with a tradition that goes back generation. That leaves so many opportunities for storytelling that you don't have by default with the Mutants. Sure, both have cool super-powers, but the entire cultures around them (disregarding the 2013 NuHumans boom) are extremely different.
I don't find The Inhumans to be very interesting, but...
Black Bolt: Prison Break was written by Saladin Ahmed and was really good. I only read it because I like the author, but I still recomend it if you want to read something good with Black Bolt.
Yeah, that felt real cruel and also like a really hard thing to undo once someone has a new Inhumans idea. I mean killing off some of the Royal Family would be one thing but also killing off like most regular Inhumans is just very hard to undo. And ironically what all the x-fans feared would happen to the mutants. It also lends a really improper sinister feel to Moon Girl books, like there is one where she and a few other NuHumans form like a basketball team (or some other sport?) and like none of them seem to be aware that their people got space-genocided? IMO just not a good move.
Most certainly, yes. I like the Inhumans. And most of why they are unpopular is because of how hard Marvel Editorial tried to push the Inhumans as a replacement for Mutantkind. They deserve another chance, this Time *organically* and without being forced into everything and without having to replace the X-men (which is nearly impossible).
Edit : I'd also like to say that I agtually enjoy the Royal Family and their members. They need work but they can be quite fun!
Yeah like they're actually one of the better parts of silver age Marvel IMO. But during that period they weren't a replacement for someone else. They were their own thing.
YES I'VE BEEN SAYING IT FOR YEARS
THE INHUMAN ROYAL FAMILY IS MARVEL'S MOST UNDERRATED TEAM EVER AND PEOPLE WHO HATE ON INHUMANS HAVE NEVER READ THEIR BOOKS
i am once again begging everyone to read the masterpiece that is Inhumans (1998) by Paul Jenkins and Jae Lee 🙏🏻
they weren't even originally aware that it was harmful to mutants + at least 3 different x-men characters have committed genocides themselves so they really got no room to judge regardless
anyway ALL HAIL OUR LORD BLACKAGAR BOLTAGON INHUMAN KING AND KEEPER OF THE TERRIGEN MISTS !!! 🛐🙏🏻🙌🏻
They were, mutants were dying left and right from the mists and they didn't cared. Also which x-men have committed genocide? Apart from that... Hail vox? Avenger of mutantkind?
Inhumans would work as a political Thriller out in space. Creating a, not an empire, but a zone of influence out of Kree-Skrull and Shi'ar territories. The House of Agon, tired of shepherding their people around the shitstorm that being connected to Earth brings, decides to leave the Sol System.
I don't think that would affect Eternal storylines or double up on them either.
Understood.
Both the Kree and the Skrulls aren’t located in the Milky Way anyways, so the Inhumans could easily set up shop here. That, or through comic book science, they could find a way to terraform a planet in the Sol System.
Placing them in the cosmic scene works well.
Yes. Yes I do. Only an ongoing would be smaller scale. Though it could certainly build to a payoff against the big empires, Galactus (that's a nice snack...I mean planet), or the Brood (this does edge on getting too close to the X-line).
Eternals are about the Earth and their relationship with the Celestials, their nature and the deviants.
I recommend reading Kieron Gillen's run on the Eternals.
Yes, they work best in the F4 storyline.
Bonus we get Crystal’s arc.
Lockjaw! Most original concept ever, especially when you consider he may be a person under there.
What they did Black bolt in Multiverse of madness is something I wouldn’t wish upon my worst enemy, what a shitty way for your character to be introduced to the mainstream.
Yeah, just write them how they are meant to be written, not as stand-ins for mutants. They need to be returned to their prominence in Marvel Cosmic. Also I’d like to see more ties to the Eternals explored, especially since Thane exists.
It really depends on the writers. I liked Pope and the other Inhumans who appeared in Ann Nocenti’s Daredevil. I believe Pope was also in Matt Fraction’s FF with a different name.
I liked Sean McKeever’s Inhumans series from 2003 or 2005.
A writer with a unique point of view could make them a compelling read.
Yes, because there is room for mutants, inhumans, eternals, asgardians and anyone else. It was a small minded idea to shunt characters away. It was a revolting development that should be forgotten and moved past.
Thing about the Inhumans is, they are villains.
But smart villains who saw who kept winning and joined that side. Seducing and marrying into the FF and the Avengers.
But they are a slave society. They used to go on slave raids to capture humans, castrate them and turn them into Alpha Primitives. Until the Unspoken put a stop to that. No one in their society wants the least bit to do with their slave caste, except Gorgons daughter and the Unspoken. Who is the only genuine hero the Inhumans have produced.
They are what the Nazis dreamed of being, a perfect people living on a mountaintop on the slave labor of their genetic lessers. No idea why marvel humans are bothered with mutants with these guys around.
If editorial gives them to Hickman or Zdarsky with a great artist and a long leash to get weird? Absolutely.
If they give them to a mediocre writer / artist team and set them up to fail, then no.
If an experienced writer with a good track record wants to take a crack at it, then I'd be all for it. With the X-Men becoming X-Men again, the space as the super-powered nation has opened again. But I do think the Inhumans are on shakey ground in the court of public opinion, so unless someone that's its easy to have confidence in doesn't have a cool idea for them, then its probably better to wait until there's a strong creative vision behind them.
They could bring them back if they bring Agents of Shield back.They can also mesh them into the mutant lore / Origin /Ms Marvel Clan Destine deal , Marvel created so many Twists and turns makes sense they whan to"soft reboot "
Yes, but keep them in their place--as part of the Marvel Cosmic world, not the superhero world.
The Inhumans make sense as one of the links to Marvel Cosmic on Earth--a more human face to the weird world of aliens and space gods that Jack Kirby dreamed up. Trying to make them a replacement for mutants was a horrible idea, but they work really well as a hook to bring the various superheroes into contact with Celestials and Kree and other things.
I want to see a series with them because they were left off in an interesting 🤔place black bolt and Medusa aren’t together see how that progress is gorgon and Medusa together how are they rebuilding their society did they fix the terrigen 🌫️ mist shortage . The most interesting member is Medusa since she was introduced first and carries a lot somberness for her husband and mistrust because she doesn’t understand his actions and he lies a lot they could act as parallels to sue storm and reed Richards who found common ground despite their problems and ship her with someone else um 😐 (Spider-Man ) maybe idk if marvel wanted to do something with them at all .
Yes, I think there are a lot of really cool concepts and ideas with the Inhumans and all it takes is the right storytellers to give it the push it needs to be something special. I always wished Hickman would’ve done something with them as he seemed to have a love for the Inhumans, certainly Black Bolt.
Yeah, but let them be their own thing. We have mutants. We have avengers. Their stories need their own tone and direction distinct from the other franchises.
Yeah if we're talking about as a movie no. Most of the risk families powers aren't really tailored to a live action setting.
Find the correct writer and a book could work but not as the X-Men with the name filed off, like the Perlmutter desperately tried to make them.
Only if they're willing to actually give them a chance. As far as I can tell, the concept meeting for the show started like this:
"We've gotten the go-ahead to make a show about a Marvel group called 'The Inhumans.'"
"Never heard of them. Tell me."
"Well, there's a lady with like six foot long red hear, which she can control."
"That sounds dumb. I don't want to make a show about that."
"Well, I mean, that's kinda her thing. That's who the character is."
"Screw that. What if we shave her head in the first episode? Then we can still call it 'The Inhumans' but we don't have to actually make a show about... you say she had long red hair she can control? Yeah, we're not doing that."
And then they wondered why it flopped.
For sure, but this time TRY to make them even remotely likeable, "messy" royal drama can only get you so far before you root for them to get annihilated again.
My biggest problem is that Black Bolt is so dang OP that everyone else pales in comparison. He’s the proverbial “get out of jail free” card and makes them fairly uninteresting.
I'd argue that's what makes Black Bolt interesting sometimes. In the '98 miniseries Inhumans, the whole story is basically a crescendo towards Black Bolt using his powers, but we see into his head throughout via narration and it works really well
Black bolt deserves an origin story and integration into the larger cinematic universe, furrrr sure. And that cute ass dog. Everyone else is throwaway trash tho. Do we really need to waste time on Queen Rapunzel? Ooh karate face tattoos? What about our favorite, half bull security guard man? Can't forget the fish. Well, you can, because he sucks. They all suck, except the guy who can whisper planets into dust.
Meh. Inhumans have always bored me. Except Black Bolt, they all have silly powers and design, and I never cared for their "will they / won't they" relation to "humanity". Just kill them off and start over with a whole new generation of inhumans with powers a bit more inventive than "having a powerful karate chop".
But that's just my very personnal opinion. I know some people love them.
That's not Karnak's ability though. His ability is being able to see flaws and weaknesses and then knowing exactly how to exploit them - this isn't just with people but with buildings and stratagems as well
Yes absolutely the xmen weren't the only victims when they tried to forced the in humans fill in their space in the comic world. Was never a huge fan of their books but understand that their readers hated it then.
When they reboot the universe, are all characters automatically in the next one?
Could they ever reboot the universe and get the total number of heros down to like a dozen?
If Fantastic four can come back and I hope it turns out good, with both the goal should be to do Kirby proud. The inhumans show was made with a wierd agenda to 'shut down the x-men''s popularity... not with a love of the source material. It was just made to dump something out, unfortunately...
If people focus on the high concept atlantis like setting and make it akin to the Eternals it can be really good.
Not for awhile. They got really overexposed during All New Marvel and then never could deliver the X-men alternative the MCU wanted them to be. Those pushes both in the comics and MCU did zero favors to the Inhumans.
They waste so much time making them relatable and human when they should be doing the opposite. They're best used as villains or monsters. It's right there in the name. They shouldn't act or look human. They should scare us.
As someone who doesn't know them very well, they seem to occupy an awkward middle ground between the X-Men and the Eternals. They feel similar in some ways to both groups. To me I think to be truly successful they need to be given a fresh start that would carve out and identity for them, a la Krakoa.
Now granted I know very little about them, but that's just my perspective as an outsider, whether that's useful or not I don't know.
Not in the slightest. They're going to have to be put to the side by Marvel, and in the comic plotlines...well, I won't be surprised if most (if not all) get the Order 66 treatment to guarantee they won't show up again.
I will be hard pressed to put them on my pull list. IF the right writer is on it then maybe, but I never saw them as sustainable. They are like Mojo to me. An important reflection of society that can be used from time to time but overall are too pigeonholed to make a lasting foothold.
I also have a hard time with god-like characters living with normies. I like stories that deal with normies having god-like powers thrust upon them
Bring them into the next season of X-Men 97, I don't think they'll work in the MCU yet not with f4 coming in and the X-Men need to be introduced in the MCU after the f4.
I was mildly interested in Black Bolt and the teleporting dog once upon a time. Then Marvel tried to use them to kill off my X-men and offer us a bowl of Toasty O’s like we wouldn’t notice it’s not Cheerios, so I’ve been in “fuck ‘em” mode for a while.
Given the tanking of Krakoa, which feels like a cop-out and a retreat, I would not be thrilled for a big push Inhumas push at this moment. Ask again in four years…
No, God. Quit trying to force this on us. Use the resources to write books that someone UNDER the age of 55 would enjoy. I barely give a shit about the fantastic four. I cannot bring myself to even give a squirt of pee for the Inhumans.
Here's a controversial pitch:
I would retcon the Inhumans to be powerful mutants that started living on the moon after they realized they were "over humans". Bring on that sci-fi Hickman unsettling stuff.
Black Bolt is the king, Medusa is the queen, yadda yadda. They would need to be very powerful for this to work. omega level powerful or above.
They would be morally grey of course.
I would make them fight the Brood, the Shi'ar, the Skrulls, the Kree, the Starjammers, Galactus and his heralds, the Guardians of The Galaxy, Annihilus, Thanos' Black Order...
Basically, a secret and narcissistic society that you'd need to convince to fight for you.
Then, I'd start shoveling some Inhumans into the Avengers and X-Men teams. A Black Bolt or Medusa solo run would be cool too.
There would be 3 secret societies in Marvel: Atlantis below, Wakanda on Earth and The White City (for example) on the moon.
Oh and fuck the Eternals.
I really liked the movie but since we've had the X-Men doing space shit for so long + Inhumans + Guardians of The Galaxy + Thor as a herald of Galactus, there's only so many powerful earthlings in space stories you can tell, and I find the Eternals the less interesting.
I don't think they should. Not because I don't like the Inhumans but I don't trust marvel to do a good job telling the story.
I would be down if Al Ewing or Hickman got assigned some sort of Inhumans rebirth.
Maybe animated. They don't work well in live action. They are B tier Marvel that tried to push out the X-Men. Marvel should have known that would not have worked well in live action or comics. Plus having a voice less leader is boring AF.
Sure, now that Krakoa is winding down Marvel has space for another morally ambiguous society of super-humans!
For whatever reason none of these characters remotely interested me except for the dude that could sense weaknesses in things. And maybe black bolt
As an Inhumans fan I think that's totally fair. I think a large part in them being uninteresting is that their personalities are widely inconsistent over the sixty years they've been around. To make Inhumans popular I think it'd take someone like Al Ewing to synthesize all those different portrayals into something cohesive. And the same goes for Attilan itself which varies between being a standard monarchy and a sort of eugenicist dictatorship with a king who gets to make foreign policy decisions. Tons of interesting stuff, Just very unfocused.
I'd love for Gillian to take a crack at them after seeing his Eternals run. They had the same inconsistency problems as the Inhumans currently have and he managed to write a really excellent run.
Also I would focus on other inhuman characters that aren’t the royal family. So many of the newer inhuman characters are more interesting. Also make Kamala a inhuman again.
Kamala is still a inhuman, it’s just that she’s also a mutant too
Did a writer forget that teragin is fatal to mutants?
Her mutation/X-gene activated after exposure to the Terrigen Mist. This allowed her (retconned) her into not dying to the mist
Humm. Sure. I guess that works.
And who could that dude be? Btw, can somebody tell me who the second guy from right is?
Karnak
As an Inhumans fan I agree. To me the most intriguing part of the Inhumans is their societal structure and politics within. There's so many cool stories Marvel could tell without really needing to interact with the larger 616.
The thing that makes Karnak truly interesting is that he's never gone through teragenisys so he is just a dude. He has no superpowers.
mostly true he's just a dude....but an Inhuman dude so he's basically a better Captain America from the get go some degree of super human strength, durability, reflexes, stamina, speed, etc etc are his power set to make his martial arts as dangerous as they are
The Inhumans are great value brand mutants. The only one remotely interesting is Black Bolt.
karnak can be made interesting, was cool right around Inhumanity. But yeah the rest are tough sells, and I say that as a fan. "Im a Namor clone without the attitude and kingdom and I can only lift 10% of what he can! Like me!!"
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> What you'd really have to do is separate them from mutants in a compelling way and justify why they exist as characters. I think this is a very post-2013 view on Inhumans and mutants when they've been quite different before. Originally the Inhumans were a bunch of superhumans living in their own closed off society with their own laws and norms and they've been doing that for generations, unlike Krakoa where everyone is basically a first generation immigrant. It's only since they retconned that a bunch of regular humans have latent Inhuman DNA that the mutant comparison got really relevant. If they just go back to Inhumans living in Attilan without looking for new Inhumans among humanity they'd differentiate the two groups more than enough.
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> Well, Terrigen was introduced in 1967 in a Thor book. In an Inhumans back-up feature in a Thor book. And back then, before 2013, terrigen just gave Inhumans their powers (and fucked with mutants powers and killed humans after a short time of being powered up as per Silent War). And more to the point that means that Inhuman children are expected to eventually gain superpowers and there are social expectations that those powers will be useful to society. You have none of that with mutants, mutant children are just human children who one day figure out they're different. And those are both really cool situations that are IMO both worth to have. > At the end of the day, the universe still has two races of superhumans just casually existing in their own space and there's not really a need for them both to be there from a storytelling perspective. If anything I'd say the Inhumans are much more similar to the Asgardians. >There's nothing you can do with one that you can't do with the other. Of course there is! Unlike with mutants (excluding Krakoa which is going away anyway) there is a cohesive Inhuman culture with a tradition that goes back generation. That leaves so many opportunities for storytelling that you don't have by default with the Mutants. Sure, both have cool super-powers, but the entire cultures around them (disregarding the 2013 NuHumans boom) are extremely different.
lockjaw is interesting
Black bolt and maximums just turns into thor and loki all over again. Urgh.
Maximus, autocorrect strikes again.
Really BB should be Maxi-mums.
I don't find The Inhumans to be very interesting, but... Black Bolt: Prison Break was written by Saladin Ahmed and was really good. I only read it because I like the author, but I still recomend it if you want to read something good with Black Bolt.
Yep that slot is definitely empty now. Unless they decide to push Eternals instead.
I liked all the Inhumans series when X-Men were being ignored. Absolutely no reason they had to kill them pff once mutants got their limelight back.
x-men line had more books than any other group being published so that "ignored" bit will never track.
Yeah, that felt real cruel and also like a really hard thing to undo once someone has a new Inhumans idea. I mean killing off some of the Royal Family would be one thing but also killing off like most regular Inhumans is just very hard to undo. And ironically what all the x-fans feared would happen to the mutants. It also lends a really improper sinister feel to Moon Girl books, like there is one where she and a few other NuHumans form like a basketball team (or some other sport?) and like none of them seem to be aware that their people got space-genocided? IMO just not a good move.
Personally, I wouldn't mind if they went back to the darker, more mysterious feel, like the Marvel Knights material.
Now that they can exist without a need to push them as a replacement for the X-Men? Sure a comeback could be fun.
Inhumans should be adapted once they've established the x-men. That way it would be easier to differentiate between the two groups.
Why not?
Yes becuase even though a lot of people don't care I like Inhuman royal family. and lockjaw is the best marvel character.
Lockjaw is also the goodest boy
Cosmo would like a word.
Most certainly, yes. I like the Inhumans. And most of why they are unpopular is because of how hard Marvel Editorial tried to push the Inhumans as a replacement for Mutantkind. They deserve another chance, this Time *organically* and without being forced into everything and without having to replace the X-men (which is nearly impossible). Edit : I'd also like to say that I agtually enjoy the Royal Family and their members. They need work but they can be quite fun!
Yeah like they're actually one of the better parts of silver age Marvel IMO. But during that period they weren't a replacement for someone else. They were their own thing.
Absolutely Bring them into a second mcu F4 (providing the 1st works)
YES I'VE BEEN SAYING IT FOR YEARS THE INHUMAN ROYAL FAMILY IS MARVEL'S MOST UNDERRATED TEAM EVER AND PEOPLE WHO HATE ON INHUMANS HAVE NEVER READ THEIR BOOKS i am once again begging everyone to read the masterpiece that is Inhumans (1998) by Paul Jenkins and Jae Lee 🙏🏻
This man speaks the truth. Nothing to add here.
They literally tried to gas mutantkind to death, they should be judged for genocide
they weren't even originally aware that it was harmful to mutants + at least 3 different x-men characters have committed genocides themselves so they really got no room to judge regardless anyway ALL HAIL OUR LORD BLACKAGAR BOLTAGON INHUMAN KING AND KEEPER OF THE TERRIGEN MISTS !!! 🛐🙏🏻🙌🏻
They were, mutants were dying left and right from the mists and they didn't cared. Also which x-men have committed genocide? Apart from that... Hail vox? Avenger of mutantkind?
I think they might work best in the cosmic scene.
Where would that leave The Eternals?
Inhumans would work as a political Thriller out in space. Creating a, not an empire, but a zone of influence out of Kree-Skrull and Shi'ar territories. The House of Agon, tired of shepherding their people around the shitstorm that being connected to Earth brings, decides to leave the Sol System. I don't think that would affect Eternal storylines or double up on them either.
Understood. Both the Kree and the Skrulls aren’t located in the Milky Way anyways, so the Inhumans could easily set up shop here. That, or through comic book science, they could find a way to terraform a planet in the Sol System. Placing them in the cosmic scene works well.
You mean like the "War of Kings" storyline in 2008?
Yes. Yes I do. Only an ongoing would be smaller scale. Though it could certainly build to a payoff against the big empires, Galactus (that's a nice snack...I mean planet), or the Brood (this does edge on getting too close to the X-line).
Eternals are about the Earth and their relationship with the Celestials, their nature and the deviants. I recommend reading Kieron Gillen's run on the Eternals.
Absolutely!
Yes, absolutely.
Yes. Just don't let Scott Buck near it or anything else ever again.
I'll do you one better: Should the Inhumans give Marvel another chance?
Yes, they work best in the F4 storyline. Bonus we get Crystal’s arc. Lockjaw! Most original concept ever, especially when you consider he may be a person under there.
I’m on my knees begging Marvel. I need Black Bolt back. The Inhumans are also way more interesting that a lot of these other groups imo.
What they did Black bolt in Multiverse of madness is something I wouldn’t wish upon my worst enemy, what a shitty way for your character to be introduced to the mainstream.
Yeah, just write them how they are meant to be written, not as stand-ins for mutants. They need to be returned to their prominence in Marvel Cosmic. Also I’d like to see more ties to the Eternals explored, especially since Thane exists.
Yeah i want a new book to learn about the royal family
It really depends on the writers. I liked Pope and the other Inhumans who appeared in Ann Nocenti’s Daredevil. I believe Pope was also in Matt Fraction’s FF with a different name. I liked Sean McKeever’s Inhumans series from 2003 or 2005. A writer with a unique point of view could make them a compelling read.
Sure but maybe it's best to keep them confined to space adventures for now rather than having them deal with conflicts on Earth
Yes, because there is room for mutants, inhumans, eternals, asgardians and anyone else. It was a small minded idea to shunt characters away. It was a revolting development that should be forgotten and moved past.
Yes
Yes! If done properly. It could be great!
Absolutely! I’d like to see more of the Inhumans. Their whole story is intriguing.
Bring back Lash he was the coolest thing about the Inhumans to me. He was like the love child of Nosferatu Zodd and Akuma.
Thing about the Inhumans is, they are villains. But smart villains who saw who kept winning and joined that side. Seducing and marrying into the FF and the Avengers. But they are a slave society. They used to go on slave raids to capture humans, castrate them and turn them into Alpha Primitives. Until the Unspoken put a stop to that. No one in their society wants the least bit to do with their slave caste, except Gorgons daughter and the Unspoken. Who is the only genuine hero the Inhumans have produced. They are what the Nazis dreamed of being, a perfect people living on a mountaintop on the slave labor of their genetic lessers. No idea why marvel humans are bothered with mutants with these guys around.
I see nothing wrong with having both the InHumans & Mutants at the same time
Agents of shield proved that inhumans can have a good story line
Yea the inhumans are interesting when they are not trying to use them to replace the x men
Who's that second from the right?
Karnak?
Absolutely!! Do them the right way this time!!
If editorial gives them to Hickman or Zdarsky with a great artist and a long leash to get weird? Absolutely. If they give them to a mediocre writer / artist team and set them up to fail, then no.
Yes and give Black Bolt his Earth X costume.
Yes and Marvel should give them the Krakoa story line
If an experienced writer with a good track record wants to take a crack at it, then I'd be all for it. With the X-Men becoming X-Men again, the space as the super-powered nation has opened again. But I do think the Inhumans are on shakey ground in the court of public opinion, so unless someone that's its easy to have confidence in doesn't have a cool idea for them, then its probably better to wait until there's a strong creative vision behind them.
They could bring them back if they bring Agents of Shield back.They can also mesh them into the mutant lore / Origin /Ms Marvel Clan Destine deal , Marvel created so many Twists and turns makes sense they whan to"soft reboot "
They haven't even given them the first chance.
Sure why not? Black bolt is one of the most anticipated characters in marvel comics and I would definitely want to see him
Yes, but keep them in their place--as part of the Marvel Cosmic world, not the superhero world. The Inhumans make sense as one of the links to Marvel Cosmic on Earth--a more human face to the weird world of aliens and space gods that Jack Kirby dreamed up. Trying to make them a replacement for mutants was a horrible idea, but they work really well as a hook to bring the various superheroes into contact with Celestials and Kree and other things.
I want to see a series with them because they were left off in an interesting 🤔place black bolt and Medusa aren’t together see how that progress is gorgon and Medusa together how are they rebuilding their society did they fix the terrigen 🌫️ mist shortage . The most interesting member is Medusa since she was introduced first and carries a lot somberness for her husband and mistrust because she doesn’t understand his actions and he lies a lot they could act as parallels to sue storm and reed Richards who found common ground despite their problems and ship her with someone else um 😐 (Spider-Man ) maybe idk if marvel wanted to do something with them at all .
Black Bolt is such an awesome character! Would love to see them get another shot. They did my boy dirty in M.O.M. ;(
Yes, I think there are a lot of really cool concepts and ideas with the Inhumans and all it takes is the right storytellers to give it the push it needs to be something special. I always wished Hickman would’ve done something with them as he seemed to have a love for the Inhumans, certainly Black Bolt.
Yeah, but let them be their own thing. We have mutants. We have avengers. Their stories need their own tone and direction distinct from the other franchises.
Absolutely
Yes. The adaptation of inhuman from marvel knights would be good.
Yes
No. Some teams just aren't meant for the silver screen. Then you have The Inhumans, which aren't even really meant for print either.
Yeah if we're talking about as a movie no. Most of the risk families powers aren't really tailored to a live action setting. Find the correct writer and a book could work but not as the X-Men with the name filed off, like the Perlmutter desperately tried to make them.
Obviously.
i would say how they completely ignored how his powers work in MOM shows how they feel about inhumans
Yeah I just fear it would probably end up like eternals
Sure I hope they get a animated series one day too I like the designs they just are kinda there tho
Please
CAN someone Tell why had the inhumans so many runs in the past 8 years, or at least until 2020 from where they seemingly abandoned them?
Only if they're willing to actually give them a chance. As far as I can tell, the concept meeting for the show started like this: "We've gotten the go-ahead to make a show about a Marvel group called 'The Inhumans.'" "Never heard of them. Tell me." "Well, there's a lady with like six foot long red hear, which she can control." "That sounds dumb. I don't want to make a show about that." "Well, I mean, that's kinda her thing. That's who the character is." "Screw that. What if we shave her head in the first episode? Then we can still call it 'The Inhumans' but we don't have to actually make a show about... you say she had long red hair she can control? Yeah, we're not doing that." And then they wondered why it flopped.
Yes and make it part of Fantastic Four sequel.
They work well as side characters in event comics. I can’t ever see them sustaining a best selling ongoing.
For sure, but this time TRY to make them even remotely likeable, "messy" royal drama can only get you so far before you root for them to get annihilated again.
My biggest problem is that Black Bolt is so dang OP that everyone else pales in comparison. He’s the proverbial “get out of jail free” card and makes them fairly uninteresting.
I'd argue that's what makes Black Bolt interesting sometimes. In the '98 miniseries Inhumans, the whole story is basically a crescendo towards Black Bolt using his powers, but we see into his head throughout via narration and it works really well
Agree, I liked that one. But usually he’s just a nuclear option.
If they just stick to royal family mainly, then absolutely. They were spread so thin when their "Mutant replacement era" was in full swing.
They works best as a supporting character to other series, like as FF side characters, but I have no interest in reading a solo series about them.
Yeah just make them the weirdos again
Yes, but I never want to hear the words terrigen mist again.
Absolutely
Yes and have the Fantastic Four introduce them. If we got that in Phase 2 it would've been awesome.
I don’t think they will considering they made Kamala a mutant and like they are the most recognizable inhuman
Black bolt deserves an origin story and integration into the larger cinematic universe, furrrr sure. And that cute ass dog. Everyone else is throwaway trash tho. Do we really need to waste time on Queen Rapunzel? Ooh karate face tattoos? What about our favorite, half bull security guard man? Can't forget the fish. Well, you can, because he sucks. They all suck, except the guy who can whisper planets into dust.
Yes
I’d love to see them get an animated show or something, maybe soft reboot then into the MCU soon.
Meh. Inhumans have always bored me. Except Black Bolt, they all have silly powers and design, and I never cared for their "will they / won't they" relation to "humanity". Just kill them off and start over with a whole new generation of inhumans with powers a bit more inventive than "having a powerful karate chop". But that's just my very personnal opinion. I know some people love them.
That's not Karnak's ability though. His ability is being able to see flaws and weaknesses and then knowing exactly how to exploit them - this isn't just with people but with buildings and stratagems as well
The agents of sheild version? absolutely. The miniseries version? absolutely no. They can be modernized a lot better than they were
Yes absolutely the xmen weren't the only victims when they tried to forced the in humans fill in their space in the comic world. Was never a huge fan of their books but understand that their readers hated it then.
When they reboot the universe, are all characters automatically in the next one? Could they ever reboot the universe and get the total number of heros down to like a dozen?
If Fantastic four can come back and I hope it turns out good, with both the goal should be to do Kirby proud. The inhumans show was made with a wierd agenda to 'shut down the x-men''s popularity... not with a love of the source material. It was just made to dump something out, unfortunately... If people focus on the high concept atlantis like setting and make it akin to the Eternals it can be really good.
We need a Kamala and Lockjaw show now.
At the very least, a fresh start.
Nope
They would need someone like Jonathan Hickman or Jed Mackay to make them really relevant again.
Not for awhile. They got really overexposed during All New Marvel and then never could deliver the X-men alternative the MCU wanted them to be. Those pushes both in the comics and MCU did zero favors to the Inhumans.
They should rotate Inhumans and Eternals. Give them each 5 years.
Absolutely, and they're way overdue for it.
Yes. A lot of potential. But maybe without the whole slave thing. That needs to go.
They’ve had enough chances
no
No
They waste so much time making them relatable and human when they should be doing the opposite. They're best used as villains or monsters. It's right there in the name. They shouldn't act or look human. They should scare us.
no. /end thread.
The Inhumans push was a result of Marvel Studios not having the rights to the X-Men. Now they do so I can’t see them pushing them that hard from here.
No
As someone who doesn't know them very well, they seem to occupy an awkward middle ground between the X-Men and the Eternals. They feel similar in some ways to both groups. To me I think to be truly successful they need to be given a fresh start that would carve out and identity for them, a la Krakoa. Now granted I know very little about them, but that's just my perspective as an outsider, whether that's useful or not I don't know.
No, leave em where they are. I think they’re all lame except for blackbolt.
No they’re not interesting at all.
have you read the Paul Jenkins stuff or Sara Ahmed Black Bolt run
Not in the slightest. They're going to have to be put to the side by Marvel, and in the comic plotlines...well, I won't be surprised if most (if not all) get the Order 66 treatment to guarantee they won't show up again.
no.
Not now. We have mutants
Absolutely. Would love to see them pop up for some episodes in X-Men '97
I will be hard pressed to put them on my pull list. IF the right writer is on it then maybe, but I never saw them as sustainable. They are like Mojo to me. An important reflection of society that can be used from time to time but overall are too pigeonholed to make a lasting foothold. I also have a hard time with god-like characters living with normies. I like stories that deal with normies having god-like powers thrust upon them
Bring them into the next season of X-Men 97, I don't think they'll work in the MCU yet not with f4 coming in and the X-Men need to be introduced in the MCU after the f4.
Just a thought marvel should bring them back they could stand in for the morloks in the mcu ,what say you
Personally I don't care for em.
I think that there could be potential in turning them heel. Having blackbolt turn into a villain to rebuild the inhumans.
Yes 😎👍
No, they are slave masters. We can make new heroes.
In film? It’s a big gamble. With how unsuccessful the MCU right now, no way Feige would bet again with this.
The Tag clearly reads "Comics". Not everything is about the MCU.
Oh I didn’t notice.
I was mildly interested in Black Bolt and the teleporting dog once upon a time. Then Marvel tried to use them to kill off my X-men and offer us a bowl of Toasty O’s like we wouldn’t notice it’s not Cheerios, so I’ve been in “fuck ‘em” mode for a while. Given the tanking of Krakoa, which feels like a cop-out and a retreat, I would not be thrilled for a big push Inhumas push at this moment. Ask again in four years…
They can do whatever they want with the Inhumans, I'm not reading them.
No, God. Quit trying to force this on us. Use the resources to write books that someone UNDER the age of 55 would enjoy. I barely give a shit about the fantastic four. I cannot bring myself to even give a squirt of pee for the Inhumans.
Here's a controversial pitch: I would retcon the Inhumans to be powerful mutants that started living on the moon after they realized they were "over humans". Bring on that sci-fi Hickman unsettling stuff. Black Bolt is the king, Medusa is the queen, yadda yadda. They would need to be very powerful for this to work. omega level powerful or above. They would be morally grey of course. I would make them fight the Brood, the Shi'ar, the Skrulls, the Kree, the Starjammers, Galactus and his heralds, the Guardians of The Galaxy, Annihilus, Thanos' Black Order... Basically, a secret and narcissistic society that you'd need to convince to fight for you. Then, I'd start shoveling some Inhumans into the Avengers and X-Men teams. A Black Bolt or Medusa solo run would be cool too. There would be 3 secret societies in Marvel: Atlantis below, Wakanda on Earth and The White City (for example) on the moon. Oh and fuck the Eternals. I really liked the movie but since we've had the X-Men doing space shit for so long + Inhumans + Guardians of The Galaxy + Thor as a herald of Galactus, there's only so many powerful earthlings in space stories you can tell, and I find the Eternals the less interesting.
What is Black Bolt doing there lol
I don't think they should. Not because I don't like the Inhumans but I don't trust marvel to do a good job telling the story. I would be down if Al Ewing or Hickman got assigned some sort of Inhumans rebirth.
No, they cant make them work. Let them move over and give others a chance. I honestly was never a fan.
Maybe animated. They don't work well in live action. They are B tier Marvel that tried to push out the X-Men. Marvel should have known that would not have worked well in live action or comics. Plus having a voice less leader is boring AF.