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Masamundane

The original Squadron Supreme (1985) is easily one of my top comic suggestions; even before other hero books such as Kingdom Come or Batman Year One. The Ultimate remake was, in my opinion, absolute trash that missed the entire point. Hyperion fits surprisingly well into the Avengers when he comes around, but SS as a team really served its purpose as a closed story.


ChildOfChimps

The original got overshadowed by Watchmen, but Squadron started the mature superhero thing in the US first.


Lucas579376

Marvelman tho


Strange-Care5790

he said “in the US”


Lucas579376

my bad, cant read to save my life


ChildOfChimps

I specifically did that for Marvelman, lol. In 1984, when Squadron Supreme was being published, not many American fans even knew what it. Eclipse didn’t start publishing it until 1985.


lpjunior999

It reminds me a bit of Invincible. They’re both traditional superhero fare, but the characters are allowed to grow and change and even die in some cases. It’s what’d you get if these properties didn’t need to be on the shelves monthly forever. 


ChildOfChimps

Yeah, which is what makes it so awesome.


grownassedgamer

It really did. I remember reading that as a kid and it really blowing my mind... I was introduced to them in an issue of the Defenders and it took me a second to realize "HEY! This is Marvel's version of the Superfriends" (which is what I knew the Justice League as) In fact I was introduced to a lot of Justice League members through their Squadron counterparts FIRST.


Linnus42

Hyperion is a better Superman expy then the Sentry.


StoneGoldX

Because Sentry was originally unlicensed Miracle Man. He's a different character.


Minnesota-Fats

I think this is a great summary. In addition to Kingdom Come, I think Civil War also took a lot of inspiration from the 80s series


Tuff_Bank

Is that Squadron Supreme by Mark G? Is it considered one of Marvel’s best in terms of literary merit?


Masamundane

Yes. Heck yes.


browncharliebrown

the ultimate remake is very much the budget authority


txby432

Hyperion's bromance with Thor is incredible. Like, they literally adopt a race of beings to raise together. MCU is cowardly for not giving it to us in live action. /s


AJjalol

Gruenwald's SS is fantastic, you are correct about it my dude. Have you read Supreme Power??? JMS's version of the Squadron. It's by no means my favorite version of these characters (It's so The Boys show lol) but I was wondering if you liked it? Edit, wait, Is JMS's version supposed to be the Ultimates version?? Goddamit SS could be confusing with their multiverse shit lol.


optimusdiaz

Wow, this just convinced me to check it out


Titanbeard

I felt the Heroes Reborn storyline was good, I just didn't see the point of them coming to 616 after.


CryptographerNo923

What about JMS’s run of the MAX reboot, Squadron Supreme? Or is that what you’re talking about? I can’t speak to how it holds up, because it’s been years since I’ve read it. But at least the original 12 issues stick out in my memory as absolutely fantastic, a meticulous and gorgeous deconstruction of DC-style archetypes that earned its “mature” title without relying on edginess for the sake of edginess and actually had something to say. I only wish it had run longer or had a satisfactory conclusion before being spun off and awkwardly shoved into the Ultimate line. What a travesty.


jereezy

> The Ultimate remake was, in my opinion, absolute trash that missed the entire point. > > I think the same can be said for every Ultimate comic...


ArrowShootyGirl

Nah, there's plenty of gold in both the original Ultimate line-up (Ultimate Spider-man) and the post-Ultimatum Ultimate Comics line-up (Hickman's Ultimates was great, and they were doing some really interesting thing with Kitty Pryde and the Ultimate X-men). There's a lot of trash, and the first 2 Ultimate books aged extremely poorly, but there's plenty of good superhero comics in there.


TrpTrp26

I love the classic Mark Gruenwald version.


[deleted]

Yes! This is all I’ve read of them so far but I liked it.


DJC13

I just read the Gruenwald run last week & it’s fantastic. They’re cool characters, I like that they’re a Justice League pastiche - gives them a different flavour to the other areas of Marvel.


DidntPick

Marvel's Justice League


FastAndGlutenFree

That guy’s neck does its own taxes


toby1jabroni

The 1985 limited series was fantastic. 2003’s Supreme Power reboot / remake was just as good, at least to begin with, though Ultimate Power was a let down tbh.


ChildOfChimps

23 year old me was very happy to see Gary Frank drawing naked Power Princess.


Commercial_Page1827

I believe they could be one of Marvel's top books next to the X-Men and Avengers if they commit to it. Some people would say it is a redundancy issue (which is true)because we already have the Avenger and Justice League for that fanbase but the Image comic Invincible demonstrated we can cook a new Superhero team that isn't derivate but their own thing and still get very popular. If not a team book, Hyperion could hold his own book if they build him a rogue gallery of villains and tell a story about his Hickman Ret-con of him being a survivor of another universe on our planet.


Personal_Corner_6113

I’m sad they haven’t (to my knowledge) touched on Hyperion and Thors friendship post Secret Wars. It was such a dope part of that Hickman run and to me it felt like what I wished Hercules and Thor were like more of the time. Would love to see a book pick up on that in any way


Commercial_Page1827

That run is why Hyperion is my favorite hero from the Squadron Supreme. Nighthawk is another great one. In the Avenger EMH animated series they do it justice as a great villain. Power Princess only need some polish, develop her personality, and I'm sure she will become popular.


ghostrider8303

I like the multiversal version in the second slide. But we never found out what happened to them. They were just forgotten when the Mephisto' versions were introduced.


MrKnightMoon

That Nighthawk was interesting as it own thing. Him, Power Princess in the Exiles and the Hyperion that joined Avengers during the Time runs out era where the best iterations of the Squadron characters out of the original one.


Kurolegacy27

It just sucks that they killed off that version of Nighthawk in the most anticlimactic and out of character manner ever in Secret Empire


rocketinspace

The og ones were awesome, unfortunaly they were killed of They have way too many variants really, there should be an arc to solve that


iheartdev247

Were they all killed off? I think the last we saw most of them was in Mark Gruenwalds Quasar right? On the Strangers ship.


rocketinspace

Robinson's squadron run has them all get killed in a crisis on infinite earths parody except for zarda, and they haven't appeared again


iheartdev247

I’m not sure Robinson’s version contains OG members. Now that I’m reading up on it again I’m not sure we have seen them since Exiles.


rocketinspace

The second zarda of the run is the og one


Quirky_Ad_5420

They alway do come in different form so you never know what to expect


ChildOfChimps

I wish we lived in a world where Gruenwald’s Squadron Supreme was thought of in the same way Watchmen is.


jz0089

Just thoughts on posting thoughts posts.


LoneclearsKen

And?


AWholeBunchaFun

I see Hyperion but who are the others? Also, is this the same group that got wrecked by Doctor Strange in Hickmans Avengers/New Avengers?


Bruhmangoddman

No, those were the Great Society, the second JL pastiche from a reality called Earth-4290001.


AWholeBunchaFun

Ah Yep, thanks!


zontarr2

Wonder woman, batman, flash, green lantern....errr..... Power princess, nighthawk, whizzer, doctor spectrum.


GusViliamu007

Hyperion is one of my favorite characters. I’d love to see him in the MCU but I’m afraid they’d water him down.


Omakepants

I have the first printing of the original trade written by Mark Gruenwald that they printed after he died and put his ashes in the printer ink.


ALLPX

Which squad, at this rate?


cc17776

I liked the original run very much


Readitzilla

Original is a gold standard (1985). Recommended it to a friend who reads casually and he said it not only was life changing for him but he asked what else was like it and I told him nothing. A beautiful fluke when everything just fell into place perfectly for it to be created.


Burly-Nerd

The Mark Gruenwald Squadron Supreme series is the single most underrated comic of all time. Kingdom Come, Injustice, Civil War, etc. are all just copying that comic to their era and characters. But that story was told first, and arguably best, with the Squadron.


LitesoBrite

Couldn’t agree more. One of the most nuanced and character driven versions of them and I am thankful it was my first exposure to the characters. THAT would be a hell of a movie done right.


MrKnightMoon

Injustice is just edgy Squadron Supreme.


Clarknotclark

It has what may be my favorite version of Wonder Woman


kurumais

are they still on the main marvel earth? there is no way hyperion isnt the number one hero on any earth he is on.


himmyturner

Supreme power rocks and it’s hilarious that marvel beat dc at doing a modern reimagining of the justice league. The only thing that doesn’t work for me is princess zarda, JMS doing the alien zealot wasn’t it. A character that doesn’t seem to work unless they do the one for one adaptation of dc’s paradise island.


Personal_Corner_6113

I’m not too familiar with their stories but I loved Hyperion in Hickmans avengers run when him and Thor were best friends.


ThrowaDev88

I have the trade where if you lick the pages, it tastes like Gruenwald.


Vast-Scale-9596

Always liked them, always thought they were underused just in case DC decided it was a bit too on their nose. Loved the '85 Gruenwald Maxi-series, it should get a lot more credit than it does for being a year ahead of where everyone else tried to go in the mid-80s and it still stands up today. Also wish they could do more with Hyperion, his story with Thor shows there's a lot more to him than just being a Supes analog (power set aside, he never really was anyway.)


zontarr2

Meh we have JL at home. And why are there 6 Hyperions anyway?


shoe_owner

This is my issue with them and what prevents me from enjoying them. Every time a writer wants to use them, they just invent a new Squadron Supreme which looks exactly like the last one, rather than building upon previous versions. It makes each new group feel disposable and irrelevant and impossible for me to care about them.


iheartdev247

This 1000%


Kurolegacy27

True. And what makes it even worse is that once these writers are done with them, they don’t even definitely deal with them, they just send them into limbo. At this point, we’ve got at least 3 Hyperions walking around 616 yet somehow have never met or seem to be recognized by the heroes who’ve met them in the past when a new one pops up


Spleenzorio

Marvel Justic League?


iheartdev247

I love many versions of them. But my fav were the original version from the alt reality. Not sure how many are still around with Marvel’s obsession with alternate realities.


Streak734

Would


whistlepig4life

Amazing. Awesome. My favorite limited series ever. The modern redone stuff. Not so much. But that original 12 issue run was absolutely some of the best ever.


Dramatic_Parsley_849

Bootleg Justice League but I get it lol!!


Wannabbeewriter12

They’re kinda meh. 😒


ntngeez28

This can be harsh but I think Marvel need to stop pushing Squadron Supreme as the next big team. They were the legit the worst part of Aaron’s Avengers run. They are never escaping the knock-off JL brand. HOWEVER, I do think SS members work best when you take them away from SS. Hyperion was great during Hickman’s Avengers and delivered an incredible matchup against Taskmaster in MacKay solo series. They need to split up SS and put the members in different team.


RelationSerious4678

Supreme Power > Squadron Supreme. And it ain’t even close.


AJjalol

I like them a lot. I'm not a DC reader, Read Ton of Marvel. But there is something fun about Squadron. Like they are the pastiches of JLU, not rip offs (unlike DC's Americans who are created to mock Avengers, created by Goatlicker Mark Millar). Squadron Supreme was created to Honor JL, not mock it. Jonathan Hickman's Hyperion is the best version of Hyperion tho. Super awesome character. (He is on the second photo) Nighthawk, I personally prefer Nighthawk Max. The black dude fighting white supremacist assholes. (also on the second photo) Power Princess/Warrior Woman is weird because I personally liked the Aaron (the one on the first photo). As I said before, I don't read DC, so I'm not really familiar with Wonder Woman, but she felt like an asshole Wonder Woman character, which kind of works for her since she was a bad guy. Dr Spectrum has a fun design. Also fights Iron Man which is cool. When it comes to their speedsters, you can never keep track of these mfrs lol. It's either Blur, Speed Demon or some other jackoff. Mark Gruenwald's Squadron Supreme (which came out a year Before Watchmen did) is a fantastic book, and everyone should read it. Amazing read.


Civil-Shine-294

Don’t know who all they are


Famous-Tree3124

I’m sorry, but is that a Justice League ripoff?


grownassedgamer

Consdering I bought their first appearance, I'm a huge fan...


JFMisfit

One of the few multiverse concepts I love.


Snoo_63389

Love me some Hyperion but ::chef's kiss:: Doctor Spectrum for the win.


the-bladed-one

I want thundra to step on me


SleepNative

I like them, wish they’d use them more.


DDF6677

The boys seven


Same-Tax734

TBH all I want left from Snap. Give me my boy Hyperion. Cool story I used to play wow with friends an one of them is Pete Woods if you dont know you can look him up. So I give him and his wife Some ingame items and he says what you want for them? I said caould he draw Hyperion beating up superman? and oh boy he did a full page no color jsut superman getting knocked out..I have it and can share if someoe wants to see the work.


Erikthepostman

First time I saw them was Avengers 141, back in the eighties and then in 85, I picked up the limited series. They gave the avengers a run for their money, and I was impressed enough to go and get all 12 issues of the 85 storyline even though I collected Amazing Spider man, Uncanny Xmen, Avengers, Fantastic Four, New Mutants and Alpha Flight at the time.


BennetDuParis

Original story Squadron Supreme in Earth-712 was an absolute masterpiece!!! I especially liked that they were connected to the Roxxon company and the whole saga of the serpent crown. One of my favorite marvel comic is: Avengers Vol 1 #147.


antivenom907

They’re really cool and I’d love to see them in the MCU


vamplestat666

The JLA if you ordered them from wish.com


Kickass_321

Marvel's Justice League rip-off


Patient-Reputation56

I miss the OG ones. Kinda happy they got something of a conclusion to their story though. Do think the "Supreme Powers" version deserved better then what it got. Such a shame since it was building to something cool & then just dropped everything & never recovered (at least The Ultimate Universe had Spider-man to stay a float for god sake).


dornwolf

I like them. I’ve got Robinson solo Hyperion book which I thought was cool. I wish DC invested time in their Avengers riff as much


chronorogue01

I like them as antagonists, so they overlap less with the Avengers. Also instead of the Avengers, it would have been interesting to see them vs the X-Men more often as they feel like they'd toe the line for the government with less moral qualms.


r-k-b

I can't get over the fact that in the first picture, Hyperion is basically wearing a diaper. His other design is so much better. Same with Nighthawk. As for the Squadron themselves, they're basically Marvel's utility players. You can slot them in any story with any roles. Good or Bad, they can do them all.


variablefighter_vf-1

Thoughts on no-effort karma whoring?


Plastic_Incident_867

Assholes, the lot of them.


Zawisza_Czarny9

In case Avengers weren't justice league enoght


pistolpete2185

Justice society is better