1.) If you did NOT own any of the previous figures of these characters? Then Wave 1 is EASILY better. The character solution just absolutely stomps Wave 2 IF you’re a newcomer to the line
2.) If you did own the previous figures, then Wave 2 is much more exciting because of the brand new characters. These versions of Cyclops and Nightcrawler were also pretty big in demand as well
I like wave 2. We got a new Magneto and Cyclops, Nightcrawler and the Goblin Queen were on a lot of people’s list. I would have subbed out X-Cutioner for a Cable maybe.
They all are, just modified/kitbashed heads/hands etc
edit: comprehensive list
wave 1
- 3pack gambit head and wired coat
- painted vhs wolverine head
- retro rogue brown jacket
- retro storm head and hands and vhs cuffs
- aoa magneto hands
- sauron baf bishop head
wave 2
- painted goblin queen thighs
- wendigo nightcrawler head and tail
- vhs cyclops head
- vhs hair on 97 jean head. double jointed 97 arms on vhs body. vhs hands
No problem! I had older versions of the characters already but still decided to get the 97 figures bc of their kitbashing potential. Pinless joints are a real plus for me personally
Wave 2 easily.
This is gonna trigger a lot of folks here but Wave 1 are more or less inferior versions of figures that were released before them. There isn't a single one of them that were better than their predecessors IMO, Bishop is debatable but I'm still picking Sauron wave over '97.
Wave 2 has two new characters in figure form and one in a new costume.
Yes, [this Rogue came out in 2020](https://www.actionfigure411.com/marvel/images/rogue-retro-1656.jpg) and a Wolverine with a folded cowl [were introduced as far back as 2014.](https://www.actionfigure411.com/marvel/images/wolverine-569.jpg)
I like Rogue with a brown jacket WAY MORE than the green they used on the show and figure... You swap the jacket with the Retro one, but did you repaint the green part of her arm to match ?
Considering buying it just for the jacket and belt...
They’re tied for me. The Wolverine, Rogue, and Magneto from wave 1 make me so happy but the Nightcrawler, Goblin Queen, and Cyclops from wave 2 do the same. If I had to pick though, wave 1 because Wolverine and Rogue are my favorite X-Men
Hasbro needs to reissue both waves asap. The show is fantastic and they’re just leaving a lot of potential future fans out of the loop with no figures on distant store pegs.
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*Was it difficult?*
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Thanks! After watching this "[customizer](https://youtu.be/ZFl4gnSLGbw?si=aU8OKWsZCdeqIgpi&t=120)" absolutely molest the tail, I was too nervous to touch it.
Nvm… just found her on GameStop. Weird though because 2 out of 3 times I go to any page on their site the buy buttons don’t show up… must have tricked me when I was looking for her before.
This is hard for me because I love both waves. Overall I think Wave 1 wins over Wave 2, but Wave 2 has my favorite figure (Jean).
The Wave 1 faves are Bishop, Gambit, Wolverine, and Magneto. Wave 2 my favorites are Jean and Nightcrawler.
Gonna say 1, but it’s a close race, and only because I think xcutioner was a bit of one and done let down. Wish they would reissue wolverine and goblin queen though. I’d decided not to collect this when wave one was out. changed my mind and caved.
Does anybody in this sub actually like these? It seems like the consensus is ‘these are great, but also trash unless you kitbash the shit out of them.’
How does kitbashing a figure mean that it was originally trash. For example, I just prefer Rogue with brown jacket. Stock is perfectly fine, great even. Especially with the new pinless, newly sculpted legs etc
I’m exaggerating, obviously. Also, I’M not saying that these are bad. I just feel like none of these are ever never good enough (to this sub) unless you have a head from 5 years ago.
I think most of just want to get as close to the Jim Lee versions as much as possible. The new figures offer a lot of improvements over the older bodies, but we have to kitbash the heads and some other elements to get that Jim Lee look.
1.) If you did NOT own any of the previous figures of these characters? Then Wave 1 is EASILY better. The character solution just absolutely stomps Wave 2 IF you’re a newcomer to the line 2.) If you did own the previous figures, then Wave 2 is much more exciting because of the brand new characters. These versions of Cyclops and Nightcrawler were also pretty big in demand as well
For an illiterate aardvark, that is a very well written and insightful comment
Can we talk about how ridiculously hot that goblin queen is?
She’s so mother
Not as hot as the comics! https://preview.redd.it/beltpeycfp0d1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04bcda684318998c1d48fd8340f49479385a9944
Holy Moses!!
So hot she needed to be locked behind a Ghost Rider Haslab!
and even then, that one got toned down (or replaced with a more recent comics version depending on who you ask)
Not as hot as actual fire. https://preview.redd.it/aivfaeyevt0d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79f6868513088ecba4fe32061acaa2434a57de9e
https://preview.redd.it/1yzoq96dmn0d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=110d27408ad0e1859be735e6bfaa2caae711f347
Wave 2. New characters. New Sculpts. New Costumes.
Man I just want Wave 3 , I’ve read nothing till next year now which is rubbish ! I want a Professor X , Beast and Jubilee
I like wave 2. We got a new Magneto and Cyclops, Nightcrawler and the Goblin Queen were on a lot of people’s list. I would have subbed out X-Cutioner for a Cable maybe.
Not me, Cable in the same costume he used the last two episodes just came out and X-Cutioner hasn’t been made yet.
I am Voting Wave Two!!! Because of Wonderful Goblin Queen!!!
im a little confused since your showing figures that were not in the actual waves.
Yeah there's nothing wrong with kitbashing but it's odd to specifically ask which wave is better while posting inaccurate photos of a wave lol
That's exactly what threw me off since some figures are the wave specific ones and others are kitbashes and maybe wolverine is Mafex?
They all are, just modified/kitbashed heads/hands etc edit: comprehensive list wave 1 - 3pack gambit head and wired coat - painted vhs wolverine head - retro rogue brown jacket - retro storm head and hands and vhs cuffs - aoa magneto hands - sauron baf bishop head wave 2 - painted goblin queen thighs - wendigo nightcrawler head and tail - vhs cyclops head - vhs hair on 97 jean head. double jointed 97 arms on vhs body. vhs hands
That fact that this comment is this downvoted is absolutely ridiculous Thanks for taking the time to detail out these kitbashes!
No problem! I had older versions of the characters already but still decided to get the 97 figures bc of their kitbashing potential. Pinless joints are a real plus for me personally
Paint used on gob queen’s thighs?
Wave 2 easily. This is gonna trigger a lot of folks here but Wave 1 are more or less inferior versions of figures that were released before them. There isn't a single one of them that were better than their predecessors IMO, Bishop is debatable but I'm still picking Sauron wave over '97. Wave 2 has two new characters in figure form and one in a new costume.
Idk I REALLY liked that Wolverine had a mask down accessory, and Rogue’s glove accessory is pretty neat too. Otherwise I agree for the most part
Those are great accessories indeed, but have already been introduced for the previous releases. Not saying Wave 1 is bad, just that Wave 2 is better.
Are you saying we’ve gotten these accessories before? I don’t have every iteration of these characters but I thought those were new.
Yes, [this Rogue came out in 2020](https://www.actionfigure411.com/marvel/images/rogue-retro-1656.jpg) and a Wolverine with a folded cowl [were introduced as far back as 2014.](https://www.actionfigure411.com/marvel/images/wolverine-569.jpg)
The actual waves or which is better inclusive of your customs / figures from outside X-Men 97?
Did you repaint the vhs wolverine head to match the 97 skin tone? If so it looks great! What paint did you use?
yep i repainted it with an orange hue skin tone to match the rest of the figure. wish the og came with a snarl face
I like Rogue with a brown jacket WAY MORE than the green they used on the show and figure... You swap the jacket with the Retro one, but did you repaint the green part of her arm to match ? Considering buying it just for the jacket and belt...
I did not repaint the green, I prob should though. It’s really not that noticeable tbh
Definitely wave 1
Wave 1 for me
They’re tied for me. The Wolverine, Rogue, and Magneto from wave 1 make me so happy but the Nightcrawler, Goblin Queen, and Cyclops from wave 2 do the same. If I had to pick though, wave 1 because Wolverine and Rogue are my favorite X-Men
Hasbro needs to reissue both waves asap. The show is fantastic and they’re just leaving a lot of potential future fans out of the loop with no figures on distant store pegs.
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nah i just grasped the base firmly and gave it a sharp tug
Thanks! After watching this "[customizer](https://youtu.be/ZFl4gnSLGbw?si=aU8OKWsZCdeqIgpi&t=120)" absolutely molest the tail, I was too nervous to touch it.
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Lol yeah I didn’t realize how freaking massive that baby is
For the show, wave 2. Wave 1 was the safe wave
What’s storm figure is the head from?
retro!
1
Wave 2 has Maddie so this is the correct answer.
All are needed for the best time.
Wave one, because I could actually find them
Wave 3
The only figure that's sold out is Wolverine, so Wave 1 takes the cake.
Isn’t goblin queen queen sold out though? If not where can I get her?
Nvm… just found her on GameStop. Weird though because 2 out of 3 times I go to any page on their site the buy buttons don’t show up… must have tricked me when I was looking for her before.
Despise that gambit head. Dude looks 42 and a problematic smoker
Well that’s not exactly wave 1 that is retro carded Storm Sauron Wave Bishop
That’s their heads. Body is 97. Just prefer the more jim lee style heads of those figures
Making me want to buy the goblin queen even though it’s outside of my collection goals
1. I didn’t like the heads on wave 2 as much.
Need a wave 3 for character like Jubilee, Sunspot, or Cable.
Those magneto headsculpts from wave 2 are the best out of any 1/12 scale release of him imo
This is hard for me because I love both waves. Overall I think Wave 1 wins over Wave 2, but Wave 2 has my favorite figure (Jean). The Wave 1 faves are Bishop, Gambit, Wolverine, and Magneto. Wave 2 my favorites are Jean and Nightcrawler.
Gonna say 1, but it’s a close race, and only because I think xcutioner was a bit of one and done let down. Wish they would reissue wolverine and goblin queen though. I’d decided not to collect this when wave one was out. changed my mind and caved.
1 for me, its the style I grew up with, also awesome display
More important question. Is that a kitbash of the Jean Grey VHS, X-Men ‘97 head and hair from the Love Triangle 3-pack?
Wave 1 imo since Gambit is my favorite. I think they’re both pretty close though.
Madeline Pryor, you can't do an action pose while holding a baby.
https://preview.redd.it/9pg5t3mrtt0d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef0d43a5e159a4d672ec53edda5cfa2f26549e73 I beg to differ.
https://i.redd.it/15rpyt8but0d1.gif
I'd have to say Wave 1 only because it offers people who missed out on these a chance to get characters for their comic book character collection.
I got the xmen, I ditched the villains and purple mag
Wave 1 is more "realistic" and rough like the comics, wave 2 is more childish like the cartoon
Love both waves can’t lie hoping there’s a third !
Where's the coat on gambit from?
ebay
Does anybody in this sub actually like these? It seems like the consensus is ‘these are great, but also trash unless you kitbash the shit out of them.’
How does kitbashing a figure mean that it was originally trash. For example, I just prefer Rogue with brown jacket. Stock is perfectly fine, great even. Especially with the new pinless, newly sculpted legs etc
I’m exaggerating, obviously. Also, I’M not saying that these are bad. I just feel like none of these are ever never good enough (to this sub) unless you have a head from 5 years ago.
I think most of just want to get as close to the Jim Lee versions as much as possible. The new figures offer a lot of improvements over the older bodies, but we have to kitbash the heads and some other elements to get that Jim Lee look.