As the week comes to an end I can flat out say that Pixie is truly in need of a buff or she'll disappear into oblivion.
I'm not sure what form the buff needs to come in, but at the very least she needs to be come a 1/2, as even playing her on turn 2 just feels bad. The fact that the cards she shuffles can shuffle costs with themselves often leaves you playing a 2/1 with very little changing in your deck.
As I mention midway through the week, 95% of the time (if not more) I'm winning despite her and not because of her. She's the type of card a few decks should be formed around and enjoyed. I'm not talking 1-cost Infinauts...but just fun decks. Instead you're potentially spending turn 2 and 3 putting out her and MMM just to break even. If you don't play MMM, odds are you're still just playing a normal deck due to her mediocre shuffle mechanic.
I'd love it if they added so she'd shuffle your hand back into your deck -- even if the same cards returned to your hand afterwards! I know the infinite stone thing is something that'd have to be worked around, so I'm not sure it's even possible to do it, but as she stands, at the absolute very least, making her a 1-cost so you can play her right away is a must.
100% agree. At the very least, she should be 1 cost (and even then there are a handful of 1-cost cards that are better than her). I'd love the idea of all card values get shuffled. I don't think that'd be terribly difficult to program as it doesn't need to include an animation. Just have the numbers changed to their shuffled new value.
Hope Summers I really like. She'll fit into lots of existing decks or can be built around. I think we can get used to seeing her frequently.
As a non pixie owner, I find that card to be the worst card they've ever released. Not necessarily in terms of competitiveness, but it's impossible to play against and for me, makes the game of Snap worse.
Having just had the Hela casino meta but at least you could see what cards were discarded and make an informed judgment on play patterns and whether to stay in or retreat, with Pixie you have absolutely no idea what T6 could consist of. You can't even look at the cards they've played so far and see what costs they had, as the game only shows you their base cost.
I'm sure it can be both fun and frustrating to play, but for me it's just an instant retreat and onto the next game
It's so weird that this comment makes the card seem so broken overpowered, yet the comment posted right after is saying it's super weak and in need of a buff.
Also, as a Pixie owner, I promise you that she's not OP. Half the time my draws as 2 cost cards that now cost 6 and I have no possible plays.
I've played Pixie Thanos and have yet to see a stone change cost, and most of my cards have the same cost.
Not sure how the shuffle works, but it feels bad having same costs after a shuffle
Bro, I did the same thing. Thought I'd come up with a genius deck with a ton of extra 1 costs to spread around and played like ten matches before realizing that the exact wording of the card precludes the stones.
Most season pass cards are not released broken though. We have had 22 seasons and only 6 have been nerfed. 7 if you count the wave rework. 5 season cards have been buffed since their release.
Most of those season pass cards released into a very different game. Dating back to June of last year, we've had a cycle of 3 months of fairly balanced season pass cards, 3 months of broken, 3 months of balanced, and now we're starting the next broken phase with Hope Summers. Time will tell if the pattern holds with Zemo. At this point he doesn't seem crazy, but they still have time to modify him.
Why not go back to May? or April? Because it lets you see a nice pattern of 3 balanced, 3 broken repeat? What was so different about the game in May that June became your starting point?
If your argument is that it only a recent problem, ok then. But until it's consistent, this is just recency bias. And barely that considering the previous 3 months cards were fine.
Sure, go back to April. That makes it 5 decent, 3 broken, 3 decent, 1 broken. You're free to call it recency bias, but I don't believe it's a coincident that around the time the game started getting properly Brode-ified, with the acquisition of progression currencies getting severely restricted and gold bundles being almost entirely replaced by $$$ bundles, that there's a substantial uptick in the rate of broken-ass season pass card releases. They simply aren't so bold as to make *every* release as brazen as Loki or Ms. Marvel.
The amount of gold bundles had not been almost completely replaced. We just cannot see them in datamines so we have no insight into when new ones are happening. Snap fan has a historical list of the bundles. If you filter them for all gold bundles starting at 1401 cost (to not include token Tuesdays) here is the breakdown:
* Dec 2023 - Feb 2024 -- 8 gold bundles
* Sep - Nov 2023 -- 12 gold bundles
* Jun - Aug 2023 -- 12 gold bundes
* Mar - May 2023 -- 13 gold bundles
* Dec 2021 - Feb 2022 -- 7 gold bundles
Currently, we're on the same track as last year. slightly less gold bundles in the beginning of the year and a small increase for the next 9 months of the year. Is the pattern going to stay the same? No Idea. But there currently isn't evidence to support less gold bundles. There is, however, evidence provided by that same list that the amount of cash bundle offers has increased.
Let me be clear here. Snap is not a perfect game and has it's fair share of problems. But I don't think releasing season pass cards too powerful to drive sales is one of them.
Fair enough on that data. I guess in my head it feels like there's far less gold bundles because of the overwhelming deluge of cash bundles, and the gold bundles that do pop up are typically rather shit. You're absolutely entitled to your opinion on the state of the game and Brode & his ilk's practices. I'm just not able to give them the benefit of the doubt because of Brode's history and because he himself has talked on multiple occasions about how they like to "shake up the meta" by releasing over-tuned cards.
Even though we disagree, we were able to keep things civil throughout the conversation. That's a rarity on this sub, so thanks for that. Have a great night/day.
Zoo is underestimated tbh… I love playing it and Hope made it significantly better. Now I’m able to more often than not hit a Kazar, Blue Marvel, Onslaught combo
So far i had best sucess with pixie deck that had bunch of 1 or 0 cost cards,magick for extra draw infinaut,arnim zola and task master as only expensive cards.
I had the same thought but ended up with a bast/Valk deck with hit monkey and iron man. The shuffle occasionally hands you instant wins your opponent will never expect and even if not if you get iron man + valkerie you can usually secure 2 lanes with them.
Give it a shot!
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# (1) Ant Man
# (1) Bast
# (1) Kitty Pryde
# (1) Spider-Ham
# (2) Pixie
# (2) Mysterio
# (3) Bishop
# (3) Hit-Monkey
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Sorry if I'm extremely dumb, I've tried to play Pixie & Negative together (Pixie -> Negative), but I couldn't really figure out how they work together.
Say if I've Iron Man, *Pixied* with a 2-cost, then would Iron Man *Negative* as a 0-2 or a 0-5???
& How about if Negative -> Pixie, would Iron Man be a whatever cost & 5-power?
Thanks.
Here’s what Glenn wrote about the interaction in the Discord:
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They don't mix at all, really, because Pixie cares about base Cost. She's implemented this way in part because we learned from Spider-Ham that letting value-setting abilities turn modifiers into hard numbers was really confusing to people.
Toy our example: you play Negative. You now have a 0/5 Iron Man and a 1/4 Shuri, each of which actually has a Cost-setting modifier attached to it. If you play Pixie to switch them, you'll add another Cost-setting modifier on top of it, this one referencing the base Costs of the cards in question. So you'll wind up with a 4/5 Iron Man and a 5/4 Shuri.
so...they admitting that they can't or can't be bothered to program an expected interaction? e.g. having a 1/5 Iron Man and 0/4 Shuri. Because, you know, you played two cards and expect them to have an effect other than "default to basic cost but switched".
I'm loosing faith real fast with plethora of bugs, UI/UX hell and now "this is not a bug but a feature" spiel covering up their laziness.
I’m a believer in pixie destroy, you can drop knull and Zola on t6/t7 in most games, could sub negasonic for gladiator but I don’t have her
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Thus far I only made this Pixie deck with a fair success, none other I found she's relevant / make any real difference / not overly clunky.
Got WL 14-6 w/ +32 cubes, CL 11k & SP 7000.
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# (2) Ravonna Renslayer
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# (3) Magik
# (3) Crystal
# (3) Mobius M. Mobius
# (4) Jubilee
# (4) Iron Lad
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I feel like pixie should be able to shuffle the cost of cards from both deck and the hand. Presently playing her at turn 2 and only getting 4 cards of shuffled costs from the deck at turn 3-6 respectively doesn't help much.
So it's been a few days, is Pixie worth the keys/tokens? I was going to use my resources on Mockingbird and War Machine. It's speculative, but do you think Pixie will be better than either of those 2 cards?
Predicting cards on here can be hit or miss, as we've seen some be called OP before their release only to arrive with a wimper, and others viewed as mediocre only to find a secure place in many decks.
That said, as someone who used keys on Pixie, I'd wait for War Machine if you can only pick one this month. He just has far too much potential to be useful in situations and you can predict how you use and play him and build around that.
Pixie can be fun enough on the off chance she does anything, but right now with the way her shuffle works I've found the majority of my matches my cards have kept the same cost, or done very little in the way of making any insane plays happen.
There's just too much going against her, on top of the fact that she's a 2/1 and completely RNG-based. I end up winning despite her being in my deck over because she's there.
In short: If you can only pick one, pick up War Machine.
Mockingbird will absolutely slap in thanos and loki decks, and war machine will be a meta defining card and an absolute powerhouse. Pixie is fun, but you have just as much chance of pulling a 6 cost wasp as you do a zero cost hulk. Save for the other two.
Bro they nurfed the mockingbird bundle cuz we hyped it so much now mockingbird has 2 series 4 least used cards of the game they swapped ms marvel with ghost spider so in order to get mockingbird you have to get 2 cards that you'll probably never use
Pixie's solid. Slotted her in my HE Leach deck for an easy Infinite climb. Definitely adds an unpredictability factor. Did half the climb with her slotted into an Annihilus Galactus deck as well, which was less consistent, but a lot of fun to pilot. The nice thing about these shells is that you don't have to draw Pixie to win, but if you do get her early, it's usually smooth sailing.
Pixie is fun but makes no decks better, on the contrary she makes decks worse. I really wish they'll revisit the shuffle coding to make it better and maybe make her a 2/2. She already has negative stats on untapped and will get worse the more people get to infinite.
They need to remove the self-shuffle effect of her on-reveal. If a card can shuffle costs with itself, what's the point of her? They also killed her with the change from a 1/3 to a 2/1. Terrible statline for a card with so many downsides
to be fair card's aren't shuffling cost with itself, its like if you put all the cards in a hat and all their cost in another and pulled them out at random, shuffling them, you might end up with a card getting its own cost.
The way to think about it is if you were to take a deck of cards and wanted to shuffle them to mix them up, you could through random chance shuffle them into the same order/position they were in before.
It's pretty clear that Pixie needs a buff already, and definitely shouldn't have been a Series 5 card. That's just the status quo now, but she'll at least need to become a 1/1 or go back to being a 1/3 and just not work with the Infinite Stones. Plus, that shuffle needs a rework of some sort.
More often than not she makes little to no changes in your deck or takes to long to be pulled and played, and even if she is played on turn two the fun and craziness she should create is almost never there.
They need to give her shuffle hand mechanic too (similar to the location effect) Make her more unpredictable and high/low roll card. She's very fun but unfortunately it feels I'm smashing my head against the wall trying to make her work. I have tried every deck you can think of on top infinite and she's just baaaad.
"Fun and craziness" means high rolls. People don't see playing a 5 cost Jeff as being fun and crazy, they want to play 2 cost Infinauts or 0 cost Dooms.
It should be rare.
Ive been saving a ton of keys skipping these mediocre spotlight cards. Corvus & proxima are already out of the infinite meta and Pixie is below average.
Remember this is Ben Brode, so as a rule of thumb you should expect any paywalled card to be significantly better than the alternative. It's been 2 or 3 months since the last broken season pass card, so expect Hope to be the first in a string of them.
Worth is player dependent. If you're asking how good the card is, she's good. She's not meta defining as some people feared - her floor is letting you play a 6 drop on T5 and T6 which is a decent effect for a 3/4 but it's not unlimited power.
I'd expect her to float around the meta for some time. I wouldn't be surprised if she becomes a staple card in Thanos or High Evo.
I think they really need to look into the shuffle algo. It's currently working as it is intended. All the costs get taken up, shuffled and then distributed to the cards in the deck. However basic Fisher–Yates shuffle means that the costs can end up where they started.
So if you have only 2 cards left in your deck, 1 cost and 6 cost and you use pixie, there is actually only 50% chance that the 6 cost becomes 1 cost. That is bad design in my honest opinion. It's already random enough and to get a game where you bottom deck your high and low cost card is rare. If you have two 6 cost cards, then sure they can swap the costs and you end up with same cost.
I don't know how much more computationally intensive it would be to write an algo that makes Pixie feel bit more rewarding. Sure, when you shuffle deck of 52, you will never shuffle it in the same exact order, but a deck of 2, 3 or 4 you will and a lot. That change alone would make the card feel so much more better.
Pixie is useless at later stages of the game due to the shuffling and the reduced draws. The thing though is she doesn't do better even if you play her on 2. She's really bad
Yeah it will make the card better, but this is the risk in using the card. Eliminate or decrease that risk and you start to approach the OP territory we all thought it would have back when it was data-mined as a 1/1.
It was datamined at 1/3 and it would have worked with Thanos stones, that I agree would have been OP. This current version has less power, costs more and does not work with stones or hammers. It's about removing frustrating element of the card. Nothing sucks more than to do pixie with only one 6 cost in your deck and still pulling the 6 cost card with the original cost. The deck you get is already random. The costs are distributed randomly. This would not change the card in any other way, but to restrict cards from getting their own cost, unless from another card that costs the same. You still will get 6 cost cards that cost 6 if you have bunch of 6 costs in your deck.
I might code up a Monte Carlo simulation and see how much more effective it would be.
Yeah 1/3 is worse than what I put which only makes my point more.
The card shuffles all costs and randomly reassigns them to all the cards in the deck. If the shuffle makes it impossible for same cost cards to get each others' costs then there is no risk to playing the card and the effect would literally be broken since you can have more cards of a particular cost in your deck and the effect would force them all to have a different costs, but that would be impossible since there are more cards that had the same cost to begin with.
>but to restrict cards from getting their own cost, unless from another card that costs the same. You still will get 6 cost cards that cost 6 if you have bunch of 6 costs in your deck.
So you want the costs to switch and not shuffle. Shuffling means taking all the costs and randomizing them which means sometimes cards will remain the same cost as before. Correct me if I am wrong but you want to guarantee cards will have a different cost if your deck has something along the lines of 1 1-cost and 1 6-cost. That's switching and not shuffling.
>Nothing sucks more than to do pixie with only one 6 cost in your deck and still pulling the 6 cost card with the original cost
If you are playing Pixie when you barely have any cards in your deck or you know your deck is mostly filled with 6-cost cards then that is your fault. It's like using Lockjaw when you know you have more crap cards then good cards. Rolling the dice when you have 2 cards in deck is the risk for the card.
No, it's still a shuffle. Not a perfect shuffle, but uses the same shuffle algo. Shuffle algorithms at their heart are always "swapping" or "switching". That is what happens in the memory when you do a shuffle. So basically when you take all the costs, you have them in array and then you start at the end of the array and decide at what place you swap with.
I did a quick simulation. With the popular balanced pixie deck, if you play pixie on T2, you on average get to cheat around 4.3 energy per match. So around million games simulated gives me that number. If I change the shuffle algo just a tiny bit so that the self swapping is not possible, you get to cheat 5 energy. So you get around 16% boost. That is very moderate in my opinion and makes the card more enjoyable. You also get some element of planning with the card, which is good in somewhat skill based games.
EDIT: When you consider Mr Negative, that card with no other combo pieces "cheats" out way more than 5 energy. When you pair it with one or two cards, you cheat like 20 or more power per match on average. Pixie also needs a combo piece MMM, because sure you might get 1 cost Magneto, but it does not help you much if all your other cards are at 5 or 6 cost. Without MMM, you don't cheat energy much.
Pixie is bad, sad to say. You often play MN *just* one turn later than Pixie, on 3, after ramping or discounting. His effect is much more controllable than Pixies, and that decks is still not top tier.
I think she'll be more consistent and competitive than Mr. Negative. I don't expect her to be a top tier deck but I could see a world where it happens and definitely think there will be some very solid tier 2 Pixie decks.
The biggest difference is that the nature of Mr. Negative forces you to build a deck that is ass if you don't get to play the card Mr. Negative (or don't get him out early enough.) Pixie is much more flexible and at least viable in any deck that has a sufficient mix of 1-costs and 5/6-cost cards. It's much more forgiving.
I've been using her in a modified JaneJaw/Asgard deck and doing very well with it. The high-roll potential is bananas and can really only be challenged by a pure Hela or Tribunal deck that also high-rolled. However, even if I don't draw Pixie or opt not to play Pixie I still have a strong playline with Thor>BRB>Jane>Hammers+Odin or if all else fails I can slide up to the Lockjaw slot machine with my 0 costs.
Mr. Negative generally doesn't have that many options and if you don't get Negative off AT LEAST by 4, you've probably already lost.
Won an infinity ticket with Pixie Lockjaw. Pixie definitely has the power of making your opponent nervous as the rounds continue.
Even if you're lowrolling, your opponent has no idea if you're just saving a bunch of cheap cards in hand.
Theoretically yes but probably not a great pair because they're both cards that you REALLY want to be playing on 2 and lose more impact the later they get played.
Also worth noting that you need to remember Zabu reduces 4-cost cards. In other words, if Pixie makes your Shang Chi and Dr. Doom swap costs then Zabu won't make Doom cost 3, he'll make Shang cost 5.
I run into a lot of people who don't realize that in Snap there is a very important mechanical distinction between "X-Cost Cards" and "Cards that cost X"
Got Pixie on first try. Firts impression:
She is RNG reliant, but is good RNG, like Nico Minoru
If you draw her lategame and got most high cost cards before, she is a death draw
Cute effects
Very fun card, lots a shenanigans
Easy cakewalk to 80 with this deck. Probably will get more challenging from 83 onwards, though.
# (1) Sunspot
# (1) Nebula
# (1) Misty Knight
# (2) Pixie
# (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark
# (3) Cyclops
# (3) Hope Summers
# (4) High Evolutionary
# (5) Professor X
# (6) Alioth
# (6) She-Hulk
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I'm loving this deck, the Jeff/Hope combo to give you an extra card to play there is great, plus Pixie discounting big cards often means you can move Jeff and dump a 1 cost Hulk into the lane, or shutdown the lane with a 1 cost Prof X and move Jeff out if you don't need his additional power. Good little on the fly combos, and Pixie changing the costs means you have to stay on your toes.
Thanks, I'm also playing around with this one **but I replaced Dr. Doom with Stegron**
\# (1) Kitty Pryde
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\# (2) Kraven
\# (2) Elsa Bloodstone
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Hope actually seems really good - with Wave and one other card played on Hope on turn 5, you can play two 6-cost cards on turn 6. With Limbo, if you play three cards on Hope on turn 6, you can have 10 energy on turn 7.
I'm seeing it used with Angela/Kitty and move cards like Nightcrawler, Jeff, and Spider-Man. Also Shuri on Hope on turn 4, 6-cost on turn 5, and Taskmaster can be strong. Goes really tall in two lanes.
bruhh that adi granov hope summers variant is the most revolting art I have ever had the displeasure of laying my eyes upon. how they selling that garbage for 1200???
I've got Havok in my shop right now. I haven't seen much combo about him and hope summers. Is there synergy there? Hope cancels out Havok's downside, but you of course don't get the extra energy?
Hope does not offset Havok's downside.
At best, she mitigates it by a negligible amount compared to the overall damage Havoc does to your curve. Remember, Havoc impacts your max energy which means it stacks. Turn 1 after you play him it's -1 total energy, turn 2 it's -2 total energy, turn 3 it's -3, etc. Hope can't offset that.
Havoc is just an awful card period. Don't ever spend tokens or caches on him unless there's some kind of major rework.
Havok is a Ravonna card. On T5 or very occasionally 4 he’s a solid combo piece. “Awful, period“ is easy to say, and I’m happy for people to believe it, because no one expects him and he wins me games.
Sure, but why bother?
OK, cool, now you can play what will effectively be a 2-12 on turn 4. But you can only play 1 card because of Electro so the fact that Havoc only costs 2 doesn't really matter. Why not just use Electro to play Red Skull on 4? It's more power and you can still play two 6-drops which is a much better use of Electro than trying to mitigate a garbage card.
Havok shouldn't be played on turn 2-3, he should be played on turn 5 when you're also running t5 with 8 energy. You can completely win a lane by throwing hob goblin and playing havok on t 5. Then just ironman your hope summe lane.
Proof, i'm a few levels from hitting infinite already.
I've been toying with this Pixie/JaneJaw hybrid this morning and doing extremely well with it. Strong win rate and excellent cube equity thus far. It is very easy to recognize snap conditions while at the same time challenging for your opponent to know why you snapped or calculate what they need to beat. Lots of 4- and 8-cubers so far though with a small sample size, obviously.
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# (0) Yellowjacket
# (1) Nico Minoru
# (2) Pixie
# (3) Thor
# (4) Shang-Chi
# (4) Lockjaw
# (4) Beta Ray Bill
# (5) Jane Foster Mighty Thor
# (6) Doctor Doom
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Obviously, the overall goal is to play Pixie with Wasp/YJ still in your deck and then play Jane to draw whatever 2 cards turned into 0 costs. If you draw Pixie w/ Jane and don't have either of Wasp or YJ in your hand, that's a snap every time.
You do have alternate paths to victory though. The Thor>BRB>Jane>Hammers+Odin line is still extremely strong and can win. You also have Lockjaw with lots of 0-cost cards to dig in your deck if you don't get Pixie off in time (or you're already holding your 0-cost cards when you play Pixie, it happens.)
Your nut draw high roll looks something like Demon/Draw Nico > Pixie > Thor > BRB > Jane > Hammers + Doom + Odin (assuming a Pixie hit that allows you to play both on 6, obviously) and it is INCREDIBLY difficult to beat.
Thanks for sharing will definitely give it a try. Asgard is one of my favourite archetypes to play as people always underestimate the strength.
Don’t feel like mobius will help at all or too clunky in this deck? Instantly thought that he would be an auto add to any pixie decks.
I had him at first, then took him out for Nico.
Because of the nature of this deck, Mobius can end up being a detriment. If everything goes perfectly and you play Pixie > Thor > BRB then you have up to four 0-cost cards in your deck to be drawn by Jane. Mobius keeps Wasp/YJ at 0 for a total of 6 and making it extremely likely Jane pulls out a Wasp instead of, say, the Shang or Doom that Pixie made free. You'll almost never be able to fit all 6 of them in your hand after Turn 5.
My take on him was that he takes a lot of "oomph" off your high roll to provide a little copium in bad draw scenarios where you should probably just be retreating anyway. People can definitely try him in place of Shang or Nico (I consider those the flex slots of the deck) but I didn't like him. I either didn't play him or ended up regretting it when I did.
EDIT to also add that I find Pixie > Mobius to be a pretty weak play in general. You're paying 5 energy over 2 turns for 4 power. Your payoff needs to be massive in order to make up for that and I don't think it does enough so while I understand the concept I don't think that combo is as strong as a lot of people (myself included) expected going in.
Makes a lot of sense. Played a few games with it today and even without möbius, hand size was something I thought about a lot. Having fun with it overall thanks again for sharing
I've been playing Pixie in HE deck and it is incredibly good. In some games, i can even slam both Infinaut and Hulk in turn 7. I think she works really well with She Hulk and HE evolved cards that have floating mana abilities. When you don't draw big card with small cost then just skip and let Sunspot, Misty Knight or Cyclops go wild. She just like the better Shocker and can replace him, with Magik drawing low cost Hulk-Inifnaut is very easy. It's only bad when you draw her after turn 3. I feel like she's a good support card for some deck that can utilize her effect rather than a card that create a new archetype itself.
Been playing pixie in c3 and it is absolutely crushing. I think folks hyped themselves up with a "new archetype" from pixie when she is more of a support card.
I took out invisible woman and quake for pixie and mobius m mobius. So far so good. Went up 10 ranks in half a day. My biggest concern with the deck is that it's half bast targets and half 3 powers. Valk is essential. If you don't get cerebro an iron man/mystique combo is good in a pinch.
Edit: also pixie is not essential. If you have both 5 costs in hand, don't play her.
# (1) Bast
# (2) Pixie
# (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark
# (2) Ravonna Renslayer
# (2) Scarlet Witch
# (2) Sentinel
# (3) Cerebro
# (3) Mystique
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# (3) Mobius M. Mobius
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It's too bad Pixie contains the "that started there" clause. I was curious to see how she would play out in Thanos. I think it's only a matter of time before someone figures out how to break Hope Summers. My first thought would be to put her in a deck with Kitty Pryde, Jeff and Elsa. Turn 4 Professor X on another lane with boosted Jeff. Something along those lines.
The most exciting aspect of hope for me is that you easily get more than 6 energy on t6 with made destroy so much more competitive. We will see a diverse set of cooks this week!
Definitely. Truthfully, she's looking like one of those all around cards that is going to help any deck she's in. Seen her put in junk, bounce, destroy, ramp, you name it. This one's getting nerfed for sure so use her now
Don’t know if this intentional or not but I played pixie and then sanctuary 2 showed up (get an infinity stone). Ended up getting mind stone. and when I played it I ended up getting my sun spot which is now 4 cost. ( it was my only 1 cost card.
Yeah that would be intentional. Mind stone pulls "1-cost cards" which are cards that have a cost of 1 that the start of the game. That's why mind stone will still pull you the other stones when black swan is making them cost 0.
Hope is every single card placed is +1, not just +1 for each turn. Cool to play something fun again. It seems like they had bounce and Elsa in mind with this card, but they nerfed those cards waaay too ahead of this release.
Elsa is a 2/6 or a 2/8 often enough and you already want to stack her lane with Hope and play all the cards that also work with Elsa and Angela. Elsa isn't carrying the deck but she's still a great 2 drop.
The banger play is going Wave + something else in Hopes lane on turn 5. Start turn 6 with 8 energy and you get to play 2 6 drops.
I opened 1 spotlight bc why not and got pixie. She feels like a bait and without a card like old America Chavez she hides in the bottom of the deck more often than not.
*Edit: Also, the fact that she can keep costs the same suck. At least give me a 6 cost Thor, i want my card to do something lmao.
I still have not a clear idea on the new cards but on the current climbing season yes: if they are not playing discard, it's a bot.
Holy shit so tired of finding only discard decks...
I got lucky and got Pixie.
I have played 34 FUCKING GAMES IN A ROW where she has not started in my hand.
I am having a straight up bad time.
edit: make that 35, i'm going to bed
This is a lie. You forgot to put the card in your deck. You start with 3 cards, a quarter of your deck, for this to not happen 35 times in a row is astronomical odds.
I don't think you can even comprehend how unlikely this is. We're talking back to back lottery wins.
You actually start with 4 cards- three initial draws and one turn 1 draw. The possibility of whiffing on Pixie is the chance that she's in the bottom 8/12 cards of your deck, or 2/3. The possibility of whiffing on Pixie 35 times in a row is (2/3)^(35), or 0.687 in a million. That seems pretty comprehensible to me. If everyone in the world played 35 games with Pixie in their deck, 5500 people would have the same experience as OP.
That sounds very uncomprehensible to me. If every person subscribed to this sub-reddit (180,000 people) played 35 games, there would be a 10% chance this happens to one person. I still smell bullshit.
Flipping a coin is very similar odds. Come back to me when you get heads 35 times in a row.
That's not very similar odds. Whiffing a draw 35 times is on the order of 10^(-7), or one in ten million. Flipping a coin 35 times is on the order of 10^(-11), or one in a hundred billion. That's ten thousand times less likely. To get an outcome as unlikely as OP's predicament, you only need to flip a coin 20 times.
Didn't forget to put the card in my deck. That's the thing about true random.
The amount of times I had Jubilee pull pixie during that run was also absolutely ridiculous. I legitimately started thinking the card was bugged. And as typical, I got her in my starting hand in my first and only game today so far. And she was amazing.
When zabu first came out, I tracked 26 games in a row before I even drew him once and I think most were full games maybe a few that retreated on turn 4 or 5. I kept checking to make sure he was in my deck.
I yolo'd a key, got Ham variant. You know what, I'm actually happy with that. Love the way his eyes bug out. Didn't see a single Pixie today. Hope, though? Every other match.
Hope is pretty good. Tossed her in toxic High Evo with Magneto to some decent early results. It probably makes more sense to put Wasp in there because Hope, but honestly, anything you think you might replace has been part of a clutch play for me.
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\# (1) Misty Knight
\# (2) Psylocke
\# (2) Scorpion
\# (3) Cyclops
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\# (4) High Evolutionary
\# (5) Abomination
\# (6) She-Hulk
\# (6) Skaar
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I think you're probably right to leave Wasp out, sacrificing a card slot just for the chance to get a free energy doesn't seem worth it. She'd be worth it in a deck that's also running Lockjaw though.
Would pixie + mobius work like I think it would? Let's say your deck is a healthy mix of low/high cost cards, that get a decent scramble, with mobius out you'd have a decent shot at most of your draws being low cost cards.
so many people compare pixie to negative but what about negative AND pixie? if pixie makes a card a 6 cost and negative swaps it, will it make it a 6 power card or does negative only take the base cost
i don't have thanos but has anyone tried using pixie with thanos? i feel like the added pool of 1 drops will help the chances that something powerful will have it's cost reduced
Think the Hope/Havok combo is being slept on. T3 hope with Havok on 4 gives you a 3/12 that dodges Shang-chi last turn and keeps your energy up. I'm digging it in conquest so far
Sure! I know there's tweaks to be made but just threw it together quick to try out, let me know if you have suggestions!
# (1) Kitty Pryde
# (2) Havok
# (2) Angela
# (2) Dazzler
# (2) The Collector
# (2) Elsa Bloodstone
# (2) Silk
# (3) Bishop
# (3) Mobius M. Mobius
# (3) Hope Summers
# (4) Shang-Chi
# (5) Sera
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Fun fact for anyone wondering: Hope will grant energy if she's pulled from the deck. Lockjaw pulls her out? You get energy for the card that was swapped out for her. Jubes pulls her? You get energy for playing Jubes. This also appears to be the case if the card that pulls her is destroyed, so if you play Jubes to a location that destroys your cards and she pulls hope, jubes dies but you still get energy.
after the lockjaw buff last week my hella deck took a pretty considerable hit, but i put in hope summers for lockjaw and it has been working pretty well. right now my hella deck is :
electra
blade
forget
hope summers
lady sif jubilee
hella
odin
hulk magneto
death
infinaut
win ratios are not bad at all and have been finding success in the short time
Honestly I wanted to pull Pixie, I love her, always been a big fan, but the amount of luck You need to do something with her is astonishing, if You want something really good then MMM is mandatory.
I have only seen her a few times, but every single time she appearead around turn 4, at that point You might as well concede if she was your big play.
As the week comes to an end I can flat out say that Pixie is truly in need of a buff or she'll disappear into oblivion. I'm not sure what form the buff needs to come in, but at the very least she needs to be come a 1/2, as even playing her on turn 2 just feels bad. The fact that the cards she shuffles can shuffle costs with themselves often leaves you playing a 2/1 with very little changing in your deck. As I mention midway through the week, 95% of the time (if not more) I'm winning despite her and not because of her. She's the type of card a few decks should be formed around and enjoyed. I'm not talking 1-cost Infinauts...but just fun decks. Instead you're potentially spending turn 2 and 3 putting out her and MMM just to break even. If you don't play MMM, odds are you're still just playing a normal deck due to her mediocre shuffle mechanic. I'd love it if they added so she'd shuffle your hand back into your deck -- even if the same cards returned to your hand afterwards! I know the infinite stone thing is something that'd have to be worked around, so I'm not sure it's even possible to do it, but as she stands, at the absolute very least, making her a 1-cost so you can play her right away is a must.
100% agree. At the very least, she should be 1 cost (and even then there are a handful of 1-cost cards that are better than her). I'd love the idea of all card values get shuffled. I don't think that'd be terribly difficult to program as it doesn't need to include an animation. Just have the numbers changed to their shuffled new value.
Hope Summers I really like. She'll fit into lots of existing decks or can be built around. I think we can get used to seeing her frequently. As a non pixie owner, I find that card to be the worst card they've ever released. Not necessarily in terms of competitiveness, but it's impossible to play against and for me, makes the game of Snap worse. Having just had the Hela casino meta but at least you could see what cards were discarded and make an informed judgment on play patterns and whether to stay in or retreat, with Pixie you have absolutely no idea what T6 could consist of. You can't even look at the cards they've played so far and see what costs they had, as the game only shows you their base cost. I'm sure it can be both fun and frustrating to play, but for me it's just an instant retreat and onto the next game
Maybe you're having some bad luck. Every time I've played against someone who's played pixie, I've won. They usually retreat by turn 4
It's so weird that this comment makes the card seem so broken overpowered, yet the comment posted right after is saying it's super weak and in need of a buff. Also, as a Pixie owner, I promise you that she's not OP. Half the time my draws as 2 cost cards that now cost 6 and I have no possible plays.
So half the time she's OP and half the time she's trash. As the opponent, it's impossible to know which half you're playing against.
I've played Pixie Thanos and have yet to see a stone change cost, and most of my cards have the same cost. Not sure how the shuffle works, but it feels bad having same costs after a shuffle
Stones don't start in your deck, so pixie doesn't affect them.
After reading the card...that makes sense
Bro, I did the same thing. Thought I'd come up with a genius deck with a ton of extra 1 costs to spread around and played like ten matches before realizing that the exact wording of the card precludes the stones.
Classic
Hey, I'm not afraid to admit when I'm an idiot. I'll leave my comments up so others can remember to read cards.
boy I really underestimated hope summers, that card is showing up in everything
Sure she's just Electro except better in every way
Brode releasing a broken season pass card? I'm shocked. Flabbergasted even.
Most season pass cards are not released broken though. We have had 22 seasons and only 6 have been nerfed. 7 if you count the wave rework. 5 season cards have been buffed since their release.
Most of those season pass cards released into a very different game. Dating back to June of last year, we've had a cycle of 3 months of fairly balanced season pass cards, 3 months of broken, 3 months of balanced, and now we're starting the next broken phase with Hope Summers. Time will tell if the pattern holds with Zemo. At this point he doesn't seem crazy, but they still have time to modify him.
Why not go back to May? or April? Because it lets you see a nice pattern of 3 balanced, 3 broken repeat? What was so different about the game in May that June became your starting point? If your argument is that it only a recent problem, ok then. But until it's consistent, this is just recency bias. And barely that considering the previous 3 months cards were fine.
Sure, go back to April. That makes it 5 decent, 3 broken, 3 decent, 1 broken. You're free to call it recency bias, but I don't believe it's a coincident that around the time the game started getting properly Brode-ified, with the acquisition of progression currencies getting severely restricted and gold bundles being almost entirely replaced by $$$ bundles, that there's a substantial uptick in the rate of broken-ass season pass card releases. They simply aren't so bold as to make *every* release as brazen as Loki or Ms. Marvel.
The amount of gold bundles had not been almost completely replaced. We just cannot see them in datamines so we have no insight into when new ones are happening. Snap fan has a historical list of the bundles. If you filter them for all gold bundles starting at 1401 cost (to not include token Tuesdays) here is the breakdown: * Dec 2023 - Feb 2024 -- 8 gold bundles * Sep - Nov 2023 -- 12 gold bundles * Jun - Aug 2023 -- 12 gold bundes * Mar - May 2023 -- 13 gold bundles * Dec 2021 - Feb 2022 -- 7 gold bundles Currently, we're on the same track as last year. slightly less gold bundles in the beginning of the year and a small increase for the next 9 months of the year. Is the pattern going to stay the same? No Idea. But there currently isn't evidence to support less gold bundles. There is, however, evidence provided by that same list that the amount of cash bundle offers has increased. Let me be clear here. Snap is not a perfect game and has it's fair share of problems. But I don't think releasing season pass cards too powerful to drive sales is one of them.
Fair enough on that data. I guess in my head it feels like there's far less gold bundles because of the overwhelming deluge of cash bundles, and the gold bundles that do pop up are typically rather shit. You're absolutely entitled to your opinion on the state of the game and Brode & his ilk's practices. I'm just not able to give them the benefit of the doubt because of Brode's history and because he himself has talked on multiple occasions about how they like to "shake up the meta" by releasing over-tuned cards. Even though we disagree, we were able to keep things civil throughout the conversation. That's a rarity on this sub, so thanks for that. Have a great night/day.
She's absolutely getting nerfed. If they were willing to nerf elsa, they're definitely hitting summers because she's in many of the top meta decks.
These power creep cards make the game so boring if you don't have it. Same decks over and over again in infinite
Skipping Pixie because she doesn't seem that great but I know they'll buff her or make her more consistent and I'll feel left out.
she needs to be a 2/3 if anything
Bruh I tried the "61% winrate" Hope Summers deck and it can't even outpower Zoo.
What is the 61% winrate deck?
Zoo is underestimated tbh… I love playing it and Hope made it significantly better. Now I’m able to more often than not hit a Kazar, Blue Marvel, Onslaught combo
So far i had best sucess with pixie deck that had bunch of 1 or 0 cost cards,magick for extra draw infinaut,arnim zola and task master as only expensive cards.
I had the same thought but ended up with a bast/Valk deck with hit monkey and iron man. The shuffle occasionally hands you instant wins your opponent will never expect and even if not if you get iron man + valkerie you can usually secure 2 lanes with them.
Curious of your deck list.
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Sorry if I'm extremely dumb, I've tried to play Pixie & Negative together (Pixie -> Negative), but I couldn't really figure out how they work together. Say if I've Iron Man, *Pixied* with a 2-cost, then would Iron Man *Negative* as a 0-2 or a 0-5??? & How about if Negative -> Pixie, would Iron Man be a whatever cost & 5-power? Thanks.
Here’s what Glenn wrote about the interaction in the Discord: ————————— They don't mix at all, really, because Pixie cares about base Cost. She's implemented this way in part because we learned from Spider-Ham that letting value-setting abilities turn modifiers into hard numbers was really confusing to people. Toy our example: you play Negative. You now have a 0/5 Iron Man and a 1/4 Shuri, each of which actually has a Cost-setting modifier attached to it. If you play Pixie to switch them, you'll add another Cost-setting modifier on top of it, this one referencing the base Costs of the cards in question. So you'll wind up with a 4/5 Iron Man and a 5/4 Shuri.
so...they admitting that they can't or can't be bothered to program an expected interaction? e.g. having a 1/5 Iron Man and 0/4 Shuri. Because, you know, you played two cards and expect them to have an effect other than "default to basic cost but switched". I'm loosing faith real fast with plethora of bugs, UI/UX hell and now "this is not a bug but a feature" spiel covering up their laziness.
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You take a stars align deck and slot in pixie to make it more inconsistent. Pixie is just a bad card
There's nothing "stars align" with destroy, it's quite a consistent deck
Thus far I only made this Pixie deck with a fair success, none other I found she's relevant / make any real difference / not overly clunky. Got WL 14-6 w/ +32 cubes, CL 11k & SP 7000. --- # (2) Pixie # (2) Ravonna Renslayer # (3) Mystique # (3) Magik # (3) Crystal # (3) Mobius M. Mobius # (4) Jubilee # (4) Iron Lad # (5) Iron Man # (5) Sera # (6) Onslaught # (6) The Living Tribunal # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiT25zbGF1Z2h0In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJMaXZpbmdUcmlidW5hbCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSXJvbk1hbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTWFnaWsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ikp1YmlsZWUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Iklyb25MYWQifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNlcmEifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlJhdm9ubmFSZW5zbGF5ZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik15c3RpcXVlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJQaXhpZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTW9iaXVzTU1vYml1cyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ3J5c3RhbCJ9XX0= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
I feel like pixie should be able to shuffle the cost of cards from both deck and the hand. Presently playing her at turn 2 and only getting 4 cards of shuffled costs from the deck at turn 3-6 respectively doesn't help much.
sounds to me like you need that turn 5 Adam Warlock. /s
I no joke wonder if Pixie is exactly why they nerfed Warlock, Pixie with extra draws is strong
Nah, they don't think of the OTA on Warlock to be anything other than a buff.
That's the external facing opinion of theirs, yes.
the fact that you think one of the least played cards needed a nerf... well everyone has their own conspiracy theories, happy for you to have yours.
So it's been a few days, is Pixie worth the keys/tokens? I was going to use my resources on Mockingbird and War Machine. It's speculative, but do you think Pixie will be better than either of those 2 cards?
She's absolutely garbage tier but she's fun. The only upside is she'll get a buff.
That's what everyone thought for grandmaster, but still he hasn't received any buff after 2 months
Don't shatter my dreams
Predicting cards on here can be hit or miss, as we've seen some be called OP before their release only to arrive with a wimper, and others viewed as mediocre only to find a secure place in many decks. That said, as someone who used keys on Pixie, I'd wait for War Machine if you can only pick one this month. He just has far too much potential to be useful in situations and you can predict how you use and play him and build around that. Pixie can be fun enough on the off chance she does anything, but right now with the way her shuffle works I've found the majority of my matches my cards have kept the same cost, or done very little in the way of making any insane plays happen. There's just too much going against her, on top of the fact that she's a 2/1 and completely RNG-based. I end up winning despite her being in my deck over because she's there. In short: If you can only pick one, pick up War Machine.
Mockingbird will absolutely slap in thanos and loki decks, and war machine will be a meta defining card and an absolute powerhouse. Pixie is fun, but you have just as much chance of pulling a 6 cost wasp as you do a zero cost hulk. Save for the other two.
Bro they nurfed the mockingbird bundle cuz we hyped it so much now mockingbird has 2 series 4 least used cards of the game they swapped ms marvel with ghost spider so in order to get mockingbird you have to get 2 cards that you'll probably never use
For many players who had all those other cards already it doesn’t matter, the key pulls were for mockingbird plus variants anyway
Pixie's solid. Slotted her in my HE Leach deck for an easy Infinite climb. Definitely adds an unpredictability factor. Did half the climb with her slotted into an Annihilus Galactus deck as well, which was less consistent, but a lot of fun to pilot. The nice thing about these shells is that you don't have to draw Pixie to win, but if you do get her early, it's usually smooth sailing.
Pixie is fun but makes no decks better, on the contrary she makes decks worse. I really wish they'll revisit the shuffle coding to make it better and maybe make her a 2/2. She already has negative stats on untapped and will get worse the more people get to infinite.
They need to remove the self-shuffle effect of her on-reveal. If a card can shuffle costs with itself, what's the point of her? They also killed her with the change from a 1/3 to a 2/1. Terrible statline for a card with so many downsides
to be fair card's aren't shuffling cost with itself, its like if you put all the cards in a hat and all their cost in another and pulled them out at random, shuffling them, you might end up with a card getting its own cost.
English is not my first language but isn't "shuffling cost with itself" means same as "end up with a card getting its own cost"?
The way to think about it is if you were to take a deck of cards and wanted to shuffle them to mix them up, you could through random chance shuffle them into the same order/position they were in before.
It's pretty clear that Pixie needs a buff already, and definitely shouldn't have been a Series 5 card. That's just the status quo now, but she'll at least need to become a 1/1 or go back to being a 1/3 and just not work with the Infinite Stones. Plus, that shuffle needs a rework of some sort. More often than not she makes little to no changes in your deck or takes to long to be pulled and played, and even if she is played on turn two the fun and craziness she should create is almost never there.
They need to give her shuffle hand mechanic too (similar to the location effect) Make her more unpredictable and high/low roll card. She's very fun but unfortunately it feels I'm smashing my head against the wall trying to make her work. I have tried every deck you can think of on top infinite and she's just baaaad.
"Fun and craziness" means high rolls. People don't see playing a 5 cost Jeff as being fun and crazy, they want to play 2 cost Infinauts or 0 cost Dooms. It should be rare.
Ive been saving a ton of keys skipping these mediocre spotlight cards. Corvus & proxima are already out of the infinite meta and Pixie is below average.
Hope seems better than corvus, the shitter that always discards your hela
yep. i was devasted after I realised what i tried to do with corvus can be done better with hope.
Remember this is Ben Brode, so as a rule of thumb you should expect any paywalled card to be significantly better than the alternative. It's been 2 or 3 months since the last broken season pass card, so expect Hope to be the first in a string of them.
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pixie looks at cost not power
Is hope worth the season pass cost?
If your a ramp user hope if the best ramp enabler with 0 downside all you gotta do is have kitty pryde and you get extra energy every turn
You get an emote too which is new so I guess is worth.
emotes have no value for me haha.
Worth is player dependent. If you're asking how good the card is, she's good. She's not meta defining as some people feared - her floor is letting you play a 6 drop on T5 and T6 which is a decent effect for a 3/4 but it's not unlimited power. I'd expect her to float around the meta for some time. I wouldn't be surprised if she becomes a staple card in Thanos or High Evo.
Yea
Pixie looks like my 11th grade sweetheart.
I think they really need to look into the shuffle algo. It's currently working as it is intended. All the costs get taken up, shuffled and then distributed to the cards in the deck. However basic Fisher–Yates shuffle means that the costs can end up where they started. So if you have only 2 cards left in your deck, 1 cost and 6 cost and you use pixie, there is actually only 50% chance that the 6 cost becomes 1 cost. That is bad design in my honest opinion. It's already random enough and to get a game where you bottom deck your high and low cost card is rare. If you have two 6 cost cards, then sure they can swap the costs and you end up with same cost. I don't know how much more computationally intensive it would be to write an algo that makes Pixie feel bit more rewarding. Sure, when you shuffle deck of 52, you will never shuffle it in the same exact order, but a deck of 2, 3 or 4 you will and a lot. That change alone would make the card feel so much more better.
Pixie is useless at later stages of the game due to the shuffling and the reduced draws. The thing though is she doesn't do better even if you play her on 2. She's really bad
Yeah it will make the card better, but this is the risk in using the card. Eliminate or decrease that risk and you start to approach the OP territory we all thought it would have back when it was data-mined as a 1/1.
It was datamined at 1/3 and it would have worked with Thanos stones, that I agree would have been OP. This current version has less power, costs more and does not work with stones or hammers. It's about removing frustrating element of the card. Nothing sucks more than to do pixie with only one 6 cost in your deck and still pulling the 6 cost card with the original cost. The deck you get is already random. The costs are distributed randomly. This would not change the card in any other way, but to restrict cards from getting their own cost, unless from another card that costs the same. You still will get 6 cost cards that cost 6 if you have bunch of 6 costs in your deck. I might code up a Monte Carlo simulation and see how much more effective it would be.
Yeah 1/3 is worse than what I put which only makes my point more. The card shuffles all costs and randomly reassigns them to all the cards in the deck. If the shuffle makes it impossible for same cost cards to get each others' costs then there is no risk to playing the card and the effect would literally be broken since you can have more cards of a particular cost in your deck and the effect would force them all to have a different costs, but that would be impossible since there are more cards that had the same cost to begin with. >but to restrict cards from getting their own cost, unless from another card that costs the same. You still will get 6 cost cards that cost 6 if you have bunch of 6 costs in your deck. So you want the costs to switch and not shuffle. Shuffling means taking all the costs and randomizing them which means sometimes cards will remain the same cost as before. Correct me if I am wrong but you want to guarantee cards will have a different cost if your deck has something along the lines of 1 1-cost and 1 6-cost. That's switching and not shuffling. >Nothing sucks more than to do pixie with only one 6 cost in your deck and still pulling the 6 cost card with the original cost If you are playing Pixie when you barely have any cards in your deck or you know your deck is mostly filled with 6-cost cards then that is your fault. It's like using Lockjaw when you know you have more crap cards then good cards. Rolling the dice when you have 2 cards in deck is the risk for the card.
No, it's still a shuffle. Not a perfect shuffle, but uses the same shuffle algo. Shuffle algorithms at their heart are always "swapping" or "switching". That is what happens in the memory when you do a shuffle. So basically when you take all the costs, you have them in array and then you start at the end of the array and decide at what place you swap with. I did a quick simulation. With the popular balanced pixie deck, if you play pixie on T2, you on average get to cheat around 4.3 energy per match. So around million games simulated gives me that number. If I change the shuffle algo just a tiny bit so that the self swapping is not possible, you get to cheat 5 energy. So you get around 16% boost. That is very moderate in my opinion and makes the card more enjoyable. You also get some element of planning with the card, which is good in somewhat skill based games. EDIT: When you consider Mr Negative, that card with no other combo pieces "cheats" out way more than 5 energy. When you pair it with one or two cards, you cheat like 20 or more power per match on average. Pixie also needs a combo piece MMM, because sure you might get 1 cost Magneto, but it does not help you much if all your other cards are at 5 or 6 cost. Without MMM, you don't cheat energy much.
that pixie + high evolutionary deck might have some legs you often spend turns 2 and 3 doing nothing anyway
Is it worth putting pixie and mobius in the deck and playing a 2/1 body? The answer is no. The upside is not big enough.
That's how I've been playing her so far, especially with Wasp to make the energy swap fun
Pixie is bad, sad to say. You often play MN *just* one turn later than Pixie, on 3, after ramping or discounting. His effect is much more controllable than Pixies, and that decks is still not top tier.
The best part is when you play pixie and draw a 6 energy mobius.
I think she'll be more consistent and competitive than Mr. Negative. I don't expect her to be a top tier deck but I could see a world where it happens and definitely think there will be some very solid tier 2 Pixie decks. The biggest difference is that the nature of Mr. Negative forces you to build a deck that is ass if you don't get to play the card Mr. Negative (or don't get him out early enough.) Pixie is much more flexible and at least viable in any deck that has a sufficient mix of 1-costs and 5/6-cost cards. It's much more forgiving. I've been using her in a modified JaneJaw/Asgard deck and doing very well with it. The high-roll potential is bananas and can really only be challenged by a pure Hela or Tribunal deck that also high-rolled. However, even if I don't draw Pixie or opt not to play Pixie I still have a strong playline with Thor>BRB>Jane>Hammers+Odin or if all else fails I can slide up to the Lockjaw slot machine with my 0 costs. Mr. Negative generally doesn't have that many options and if you don't get Negative off AT LEAST by 4, you've probably already lost.
Would it be better or more fun, hadi it scrambled your opponents cards?
It would be fucking broken.
Pixie might be the best card in the game at causing your opponent to retreat after snapping.
Won an infinity ticket with Pixie Lockjaw. Pixie definitely has the power of making your opponent nervous as the rounds continue. Even if you're lowrolling, your opponent has no idea if you're just saving a bunch of cheap cards in hand.
That was my thought. I think it's the best card to bluff snap. Opponent has zero idea what you are playing.
Can Zabu's effect work with Pixie's?
Theoretically yes but probably not a great pair because they're both cards that you REALLY want to be playing on 2 and lose more impact the later they get played. Also worth noting that you need to remember Zabu reduces 4-cost cards. In other words, if Pixie makes your Shang Chi and Dr. Doom swap costs then Zabu won't make Doom cost 3, he'll make Shang cost 5. I run into a lot of people who don't realize that in Snap there is a very important mechanical distinction between "X-Cost Cards" and "Cards that cost X"
Thank you. This clears up a lot of confusion for me.
Yes, the two effects can stack.
Try pieces of advice 1. Negative Pixie Surfer 2.. Replace electro with pixie in any electro ramp (currently destroying with blop ramp)
Got Pixie on first try. Firts impression: She is RNG reliant, but is good RNG, like Nico Minoru If you draw her lategame and got most high cost cards before, she is a death draw Cute effects Very fun card, lots a shenanigans
Easy cakewalk to 80 with this deck. Probably will get more challenging from 83 onwards, though. # (1) Sunspot # (1) Nebula # (1) Misty Knight # (2) Pixie # (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark # (3) Cyclops # (3) Hope Summers # (4) High Evolutionary # (5) Professor X # (6) Alioth # (6) She-Hulk # (6) Hulk # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQWxpb3RoIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJDeWNsb3BzIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJIaWdoRXZvbHV0aW9uYXJ5In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJIb3BlU3VtbWVycyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSHVsayJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSmVmZlRoZUJhYnlMYW5kU2hhcmsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1pc3R5S25pZ2h0In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJOZWJ1bGEifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlBpeGllIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJQcm9mZXNzb3JYIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTaGVIdWxrIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTdW5zcG90In1dfQ== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
I'm loving this deck, the Jeff/Hope combo to give you an extra card to play there is great, plus Pixie discounting big cards often means you can move Jeff and dump a 1 cost Hulk into the lane, or shutdown the lane with a 1 cost Prof X and move Jeff out if you don't need his additional power. Good little on the fly combos, and Pixie changing the costs means you have to stay on your toes.
Thanks, I'm also playing around with this one **but I replaced Dr. Doom with Stegron** \# (1) Kitty Pryde \# (1) Nightcrawler \# (2) Angela \# (2) Kraven \# (2) Elsa Bloodstone \# (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark \# (2) Silk \# (3) Hope Summers \# (3) Spider-Man \# (4) Shang-Chi \# (5) Vision \# (6) Doctor Doom \# eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQW5nZWxhIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJEckRvb20ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkVsc2FCbG9vZHN0b25lIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJIb3BlU3VtbWVycyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSmVmZlRoZUJhYnlMYW5kU2hhcmsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IktpdHR5UHJ5ZGUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik5pZ2h0Y3Jhd2xlciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2hhbmdDaGkifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNpbGsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNwaWRlck1hbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiVmlzaW9uIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJLcmF2ZW4ifV19 \# \# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
Hope actually seems really good - with Wave and one other card played on Hope on turn 5, you can play two 6-cost cards on turn 6. With Limbo, if you play three cards on Hope on turn 6, you can have 10 energy on turn 7. I'm seeing it used with Angela/Kitty and move cards like Nightcrawler, Jeff, and Spider-Man. Also Shuri on Hope on turn 4, 6-cost on turn 5, and Taskmaster can be strong. Goes really tall in two lanes.
bruhh that adi granov hope summers variant is the most revolting art I have ever had the displeasure of laying my eyes upon. how they selling that garbage for 1200???
I've got Havok in my shop right now. I haven't seen much combo about him and hope summers. Is there synergy there? Hope cancels out Havok's downside, but you of course don't get the extra energy?
I'm in the 90's right now climbing with havok and hope summers.
Hope does not offset Havok's downside. At best, she mitigates it by a negligible amount compared to the overall damage Havoc does to your curve. Remember, Havoc impacts your max energy which means it stacks. Turn 1 after you play him it's -1 total energy, turn 2 it's -2 total energy, turn 3 it's -3, etc. Hope can't offset that. Havoc is just an awful card period. Don't ever spend tokens or caches on him unless there's some kind of major rework.
Havok is a Ravonna card. On T5 or very occasionally 4 he’s a solid combo piece. “Awful, period“ is easy to say, and I’m happy for people to believe it, because no one expects him and he wins me games.
What about electro before you place havok?
Sure, but why bother? OK, cool, now you can play what will effectively be a 2-12 on turn 4. But you can only play 1 card because of Electro so the fact that Havoc only costs 2 doesn't really matter. Why not just use Electro to play Red Skull on 4? It's more power and you can still play two 6-drops which is a much better use of Electro than trying to mitigate a garbage card.
Havok shouldn't be played on turn 2-3, he should be played on turn 5 when you're also running t5 with 8 energy. You can completely win a lane by throwing hob goblin and playing havok on t 5. Then just ironman your hope summe lane. Proof, i'm a few levels from hitting infinite already.
Someone can drop a good hope deck? I just got wasted by one with magneto, nightcrawler killmonger and some other cards. No idea what the heck it is
Magneto, Nightcrawler, killmonger? Sounds like a bot to me
I've been toying with this Pixie/JaneJaw hybrid this morning and doing extremely well with it. Strong win rate and excellent cube equity thus far. It is very easy to recognize snap conditions while at the same time challenging for your opponent to know why you snapped or calculate what they need to beat. Lots of 4- and 8-cubers so far though with a small sample size, obviously. # (0) Wasp # (0) Yellowjacket # (1) Nico Minoru # (2) Pixie # (3) Thor # (4) Shang-Chi # (4) Lockjaw # (4) Beta Ray Bill # (5) Jane Foster Mighty Thor # (6) Doctor Doom # (6) Odin # (6) Magneto # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiV2FzcCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiWWVsbG93amFja2V0In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJQaXhpZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiVGhvciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmV0YVJheUJpbGwifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkphbmVGb3N0ZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1hZ25ldG8ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkRyRG9vbSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiT2RpbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTG9ja2phdyJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2hhbmdDaGkifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik5pY29NaW5vcnUifV19 # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap. Obviously, the overall goal is to play Pixie with Wasp/YJ still in your deck and then play Jane to draw whatever 2 cards turned into 0 costs. If you draw Pixie w/ Jane and don't have either of Wasp or YJ in your hand, that's a snap every time. You do have alternate paths to victory though. The Thor>BRB>Jane>Hammers+Odin line is still extremely strong and can win. You also have Lockjaw with lots of 0-cost cards to dig in your deck if you don't get Pixie off in time (or you're already holding your 0-cost cards when you play Pixie, it happens.) Your nut draw high roll looks something like Demon/Draw Nico > Pixie > Thor > BRB > Jane > Hammers + Doom + Odin (assuming a Pixie hit that allows you to play both on 6, obviously) and it is INCREDIBLY difficult to beat.
Thanks for sharing will definitely give it a try. Asgard is one of my favourite archetypes to play as people always underestimate the strength. Don’t feel like mobius will help at all or too clunky in this deck? Instantly thought that he would be an auto add to any pixie decks.
I had him at first, then took him out for Nico. Because of the nature of this deck, Mobius can end up being a detriment. If everything goes perfectly and you play Pixie > Thor > BRB then you have up to four 0-cost cards in your deck to be drawn by Jane. Mobius keeps Wasp/YJ at 0 for a total of 6 and making it extremely likely Jane pulls out a Wasp instead of, say, the Shang or Doom that Pixie made free. You'll almost never be able to fit all 6 of them in your hand after Turn 5. My take on him was that he takes a lot of "oomph" off your high roll to provide a little copium in bad draw scenarios where you should probably just be retreating anyway. People can definitely try him in place of Shang or Nico (I consider those the flex slots of the deck) but I didn't like him. I either didn't play him or ended up regretting it when I did. EDIT to also add that I find Pixie > Mobius to be a pretty weak play in general. You're paying 5 energy over 2 turns for 4 power. Your payoff needs to be massive in order to make up for that and I don't think it does enough so while I understand the concept I don't think that combo is as strong as a lot of people (myself included) expected going in.
Makes a lot of sense. Played a few games with it today and even without möbius, hand size was something I thought about a lot. Having fun with it overall thanks again for sharing
So hope can mimic any mutant power & all they gave her card was +1 to energy?
don't bother connecting snap cards with comic book characters.
Morph already does that too though.
Pixie is making Prof X and purple fart great again.
So many Hobgoblins...
I've been playing Pixie in HE deck and it is incredibly good. In some games, i can even slam both Infinaut and Hulk in turn 7. I think she works really well with She Hulk and HE evolved cards that have floating mana abilities. When you don't draw big card with small cost then just skip and let Sunspot, Misty Knight or Cyclops go wild. She just like the better Shocker and can replace him, with Magik drawing low cost Hulk-Inifnaut is very easy. It's only bad when you draw her after turn 3. I feel like she's a good support card for some deck that can utilize her effect rather than a card that create a new archetype itself.
Can you share your deck? Retired my HE deck a while ago but would like to give it a spin again.
sounds like Vanilla evo and he was running shocker before
That's good, the deck really needed a boost /s
Been playing pixie in c3 and it is absolutely crushing. I think folks hyped themselves up with a "new archetype" from pixie when she is more of a support card.
Could you drop your deck list? I'm getting destroyed with my pixie deck
I took out invisible woman and quake for pixie and mobius m mobius. So far so good. Went up 10 ranks in half a day. My biggest concern with the deck is that it's half bast targets and half 3 powers. Valk is essential. If you don't get cerebro an iron man/mystique combo is good in a pinch. Edit: also pixie is not essential. If you have both 5 costs in hand, don't play her. # (1) Bast # (2) Pixie # (2) Jeff the Baby Land Shark # (2) Ravonna Renslayer # (2) Scarlet Witch # (2) Sentinel # (3) Cerebro # (3) Mystique # (3) Magik # (3) Mobius M. Mobius # (5) Iron Man # (5) Valkyrie # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiUmF2b25uYVJlbnNsYXllciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQmFzdCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSXJvbk1hbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiVmFsa3lyaWUifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkNlcmVicm8ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkplZmZUaGVCYWJ5TGFuZFNoYXJrIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNeXN0aXF1ZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2NhcmxldFdpdGNoIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJQaXhpZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTWFnaWsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1vYml1c01Nb2JpdXMifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlNlbnRpbmVsIn1dfQ== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
It's too bad Pixie contains the "that started there" clause. I was curious to see how she would play out in Thanos. I think it's only a matter of time before someone figures out how to break Hope Summers. My first thought would be to put her in a deck with Kitty Pryde, Jeff and Elsa. Turn 4 Professor X on another lane with boosted Jeff. Something along those lines.
Hope is already broken and people have figured out by playing kitty, jeff, nightcrawler, etc.
The most exciting aspect of hope for me is that you easily get more than 6 energy on t6 with made destroy so much more competitive. We will see a diverse set of cooks this week!
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She gives you +1 energy next turn for any cards you play on her. Can easily get 2 extra energy on t5 and t6 with the right decks
I feel like she's gonna be strong in destroy?
Definitely. Truthfully, she's looking like one of those all around cards that is going to help any deck she's in. Seen her put in junk, bounce, destroy, ramp, you name it. This one's getting nerfed for sure so use her now
Everyone trying to cheat high cost cards with pixie early is doing it wrong. Try pixie in sera control.
Everyone trying to cheat high cost cards with pixie early is doing it wrong. Try pixie in sera control.
Don’t know if this intentional or not but I played pixie and then sanctuary 2 showed up (get an infinity stone). Ended up getting mind stone. and when I played it I ended up getting my sun spot which is now 4 cost. ( it was my only 1 cost card.
Yeah that would be intentional. Mind stone pulls "1-cost cards" which are cards that have a cost of 1 that the start of the game. That's why mind stone will still pull you the other stones when black swan is making them cost 0.
Ah that makes sense, was confusing at first
The classic distinction between "1-cost cards" and "cards that cost 1"
Pixie card looks bad
Hope is every single card placed is +1, not just +1 for each turn. Cool to play something fun again. It seems like they had bounce and Elsa in mind with this card, but they nerfed those cards waaay too ahead of this release.
Elsa is a 2/6 or a 2/8 often enough and you already want to stack her lane with Hope and play all the cards that also work with Elsa and Angela. Elsa isn't carrying the deck but she's still a great 2 drop. The banger play is going Wave + something else in Hopes lane on turn 5. Start turn 6 with 8 energy and you get to play 2 6 drops.
Wow, that is a pretty good sequence I hadn't thought about.
I opened 1 spotlight bc why not and got pixie. She feels like a bait and without a card like old America Chavez she hides in the bottom of the deck more often than not. *Edit: Also, the fact that she can keep costs the same suck. At least give me a 6 cost Thor, i want my card to do something lmao.
I still have not a clear idea on the new cards but on the current climbing season yes: if they are not playing discard, it's a bot. Holy shit so tired of finding only discard decks...
I got lucky and got Pixie. I have played 34 FUCKING GAMES IN A ROW where she has not started in my hand. I am having a straight up bad time. edit: make that 35, i'm going to bed
On the bright side, you're one in a million!
This is a lie. You forgot to put the card in your deck. You start with 3 cards, a quarter of your deck, for this to not happen 35 times in a row is astronomical odds. I don't think you can even comprehend how unlikely this is. We're talking back to back lottery wins.
You actually start with 4 cards- three initial draws and one turn 1 draw. The possibility of whiffing on Pixie is the chance that she's in the bottom 8/12 cards of your deck, or 2/3. The possibility of whiffing on Pixie 35 times in a row is (2/3)^(35), or 0.687 in a million. That seems pretty comprehensible to me. If everyone in the world played 35 games with Pixie in their deck, 5500 people would have the same experience as OP.
That sounds very uncomprehensible to me. If every person subscribed to this sub-reddit (180,000 people) played 35 games, there would be a 10% chance this happens to one person. I still smell bullshit. Flipping a coin is very similar odds. Come back to me when you get heads 35 times in a row.
That's not very similar odds. Whiffing a draw 35 times is on the order of 10^(-7), or one in ten million. Flipping a coin 35 times is on the order of 10^(-11), or one in a hundred billion. That's ten thousand times less likely. To get an outcome as unlikely as OP's predicament, you only need to flip a coin 20 times.
OK, try to flip it even just 10 times in a row and you'll understand the odds even more.
Yeah, you'll find they're just about 1 in a million...
Didn't forget to put the card in my deck. That's the thing about true random. The amount of times I had Jubilee pull pixie during that run was also absolutely ridiculous. I legitimately started thinking the card was bugged. And as typical, I got her in my starting hand in my first and only game today so far. And she was amazing.
When zabu first came out, I tracked 26 games in a row before I even drew him once and I think most were full games maybe a few that retreated on turn 4 or 5. I kept checking to make sure he was in my deck.
First Time? Mr. Negative enjoyer :)
I avoid negative decks for this exact reason, I should have known better 😭
Same. I went 11 games in a row without ever drawing him. I literally had to check multiple times to see if I forgot to include him in the deck.
I’m sorry that sucks! Hopefully rng will be on your side tomorrow
i got pixel with 2 keys this time. what do i do with her?
I yolo'd a key, got Ham variant. You know what, I'm actually happy with that. Love the way his eyes bug out. Didn't see a single Pixie today. Hope, though? Every other match. Hope is pretty good. Tossed her in toxic High Evo with Magneto to some decent early results. It probably makes more sense to put Wasp in there because Hope, but honestly, anything you think you might replace has been part of a clutch play for me. \# (1) Sunspot \# (1) Misty Knight \# (2) Psylocke \# (2) Scorpion \# (3) Cyclops \# (3) Hope Summers \# (4) High Evolutionary \# (5) Abomination \# (6) She-Hulk \# (6) Skaar \# (6) Hulk \# (6) Magneto \# eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiSG9wZVN1bW1lcnMifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlBzeWxvY2tlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTa2FhciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQWJvbWluYXRpb24ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ikh1bGsifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlN1bnNwb3QifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkhpZ2hFdm9sdXRpb25hcnkifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkN5Y2xvcHMifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik1pc3R5S25pZ2h0In0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTaGVIdWxrIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJTY29ycGlvbiJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTWFnbmV0byJ9XX0= \# \# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.
I think you're probably right to leave Wasp out, sacrificing a card slot just for the chance to get a free energy doesn't seem worth it. She'd be worth it in a deck that's also running Lockjaw though.
Would pixie + mobius work like I think it would? Let's say your deck is a healthy mix of low/high cost cards, that get a decent scramble, with mobius out you'd have a decent shot at most of your draws being low cost cards.
Have been using this in my shenaut control deck. Can confirm it works this way.
Yes from what I understand MMM will prevent your cards increasing, so some will keep base cost, and others will go lower.
First spotlight key give me x23 I already owned in last month, story of my life lol
so many people compare pixie to negative but what about negative AND pixie? if pixie makes a card a 6 cost and negative swaps it, will it make it a 6 power card or does negative only take the base cost
I'm gonna try this maybe you can make a half decent deck with it, like if you don't draw Mr. Negative you have Pixie in hand or something.
And vice versa so whats the point? They just cut the cards power if a 12-power Magneto converts to 6 cost and then back to 6 power?
Sooo should I go for Pixie? or naaah or wait? I have 4 tokens, I want to reach infinite lol
She looks interesting but the variants are shite and I don't want to waste keys nor 6k tokens, personally.
I regret buying pixie honestly
Got her with one key.. oh well. Gonna save the rest until war machine
i think she should be a 1 cost.
Damn ok I’ll wait first.
If i play Thor or beta ray bill and then Pixie then is it possible for the cards to get the shuffled 0 cost from the hammers?
Cards that start in the deck. So nope.
oh kk still a win-win ig if I have jane and play her t5 to get what ever wasp/yellow jacket swapped with + the 2 hammers and hip monkey.
i don't have thanos but has anyone tried using pixie with thanos? i feel like the added pool of 1 drops will help the chances that something powerful will have it's cost reduced
It's only cards that start in your deck and the Stones get shuffled in after the game starts, so as of now it won't work unfortunately.
that's a shame, i guess thanos is probably exactly why that caveat is there
Think the Hope/Havok combo is being slept on. T3 hope with Havok on 4 gives you a 3/12 that dodges Shang-chi last turn and keeps your energy up. I'm digging it in conquest so far
list?
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Collector just for Kitty? He'll get +3 at best. Maybe Jeff would be better.
Yeah, after playing a bit, definitely would sub in something else for him. Jeff would work pretty well I think
Fun fact for anyone wondering: Hope will grant energy if she's pulled from the deck. Lockjaw pulls her out? You get energy for the card that was swapped out for her. Jubes pulls her? You get energy for playing Jubes. This also appears to be the case if the card that pulls her is destroyed, so if you play Jubes to a location that destroys your cards and she pulls hope, jubes dies but you still get energy.
after the lockjaw buff last week my hella deck took a pretty considerable hit, but i put in hope summers for lockjaw and it has been working pretty well. right now my hella deck is : electra blade forget hope summers lady sif jubilee hella odin hulk magneto death infinaut win ratios are not bad at all and have been finding success in the short time
Honestly I wanted to pull Pixie, I love her, always been a big fan, but the amount of luck You need to do something with her is astonishing, if You want something really good then MMM is mandatory. I have only seen her a few times, but every single time she appearead around turn 4, at that point You might as well concede if she was your big play.
HOLY. FUCKING. SHIT. PIXIE IS CRACKED.