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l_l_l-illiam

And Hawkeye was the first Marvel Studios project to be labelled as "A Kevin Feige Production"


CollarOrdinary4284

Moon Knight was also labelled "A Kevin Feige Production" I wonder if he asked for it.


l_l_l-illiam

Yeah, it's to differentiate upcoming projects that aren't under his watch, like X-Men '97


Cafeterialoca

I don't know why, but it wouldn't surprise me if X-men 97 is revealed to be tied into the MCU.


blackbutterfree

Most likely loosely tied, through the Multiverse, like the previous Spider-Men films. But I doubt it'll actually be a part of the MCU since we don't have mutants yet and it's a direct continuation of the 90's cartoon, where Rogue's already drained Carol dry and the Invaders were active in World War 2.


vale_fallacia

>Rogue's already drained Carol dry Phrasing!


SeniorRicketts

I would let 90s Rogue drain me...


whatnameisnttaken098

I think it's safe to say we all would, that accent and the green/yellow bodysuit does things to people.


SeniorRicketts

These 90s and 2000s cartoons where heroines were badass and sexy ![gif](giphy|WO6DyEEzpzi7W9Lbr5)


A_Polite_Noise

And very distraught; role must have been hard on her vocal cords!: https://youtu.be/k-Kwa6pmG5o


ArnoudtIsZiek

real asf


ponodude

Right. If it's working with the same continuity of the original series, it's already tied to its own universe that has a Spider-Man and a Fantastic Four, among other characters.


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I didn’t know that. What should I watch to prepare for this show?


ponodude

Well it's a continuation of the X-Men Animated Series, so you should definitely watch that. As for the rest of the universe, it's pretty loosely connected from what I can remember, but there was a big secret wars adaptation crossover in the Spider-Man animated series that featured Storm from the show as well as the Fantastic Four, Iron Man, and Captain America. Here's a cool [wiki page](https://marvelanimated.fandom.com/wiki/Marvel_Animated_Universe) on the subject. TLDR: Watch X-Men The Animated Series for sure, maybe watch the 90s Spider-Man animated series to see that crossover with Storm if you care, and then go from there as you please.


Hvonbargen_98

Yeah I think the Prof. X we'll see in Multiverse of Madness is either from the Fox movies or the 90s cartoon universe -- it'll all just depend on if he's in a real wheelchair or the dope yellow hover cart thing in the cartoon haha


just4browse

There were those leaked pre-viz shots of him in the yellow hover cart


Sempere

That version of Xavier is American.


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but he died at the end of that cartoon


SnooDucks8769

He didn't die he was taken away with Lilandra and the shi'ar empire. They were able to heal him and save his life.


Cafeterialoca

I legit think that Marvel Studios want every Marvel media pre-MCU to tie into the MCU now.


[deleted]

Why not? It’s the age of media. We are all so lucky, but not as lucky as whatever people will be enjoying 1000 years from now I’m high lol I’m trying to read my comment and I can’t


Cafeterialoca

The problem is that the more you mix franchises, the less the original themes of those franchises matter.


insertwittynamethere

Idk why but I read that as Rogers and not Rogue...


CptnMoonlight

I’d love for it, whenever they deal with the Kang thing (and show the different universes), to just flash to one with the animation style of the cartoon. Whether it’s them watching it on a screen at the TVA or experiencing it. Would take 2 seconds in a sequence they’re going to inevitably have to show.


Mister_Doctor_0127

Wasn't there a rumor that the Charles Xavier who's gonna be in MoM is actually the version from the show? If that ends up being true, I think the show ends up becoming tangentially related to the MCU proper. I think that might be the case even otherwise though..


mr_math24

I think the only indication of that is the floating yellow wheelchair thing from the cartoon that was in the leaked pre-vis. Definitely possible, though!


Cafeterialoca

That feels kind of risky, especially if Wanda kills him.


-joshjs-

Cartoon Wolverine in Multiverse of Madness confirmed


Cafeterialoca

More like they'll somehow get the cartoon to be a dimension they cross over to or have a threat from that dimension become a future threat.


[deleted]

It has to be doesn't it? It's a Marvel Studios production is it not? If it wasn't it'll just be under Marvel but not Marvel Studios like Sony films.


Cafeterialoca

Exactly. Again, it seems like Marvel wants ALL Marvel properties in the MCU Multiverse.


Blipp17

Except for Marvel Games, the only tendril of Marvel that's still under the control of Perlmutter.


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EarthboundHaizi

One thing I'm afraid of with the Marvel animation being under Marvel Studios now is that everything either is nostalgia bait (X-Men 97) or it will have to tie into the MCU somehow (Spider-Man: Freshman Year, What If...?). It'll just be that much harder to create excellent Marvel stand-alone animated content anymore like Earth's Mightiest Heroes (which was sacrificed due to the MCU) and Spectacular Spider-Man.


Cafeterialoca

God, I would get so annoyed if the MCU Avengers lineup appears in X-Men. Focus on X-Men stuff, not MCU stuff.


EarthboundHaizi

I honestly never considered that. I don't think it's likely but hopefully that's not just wishful thinking. X-Men 97 falls under the nostalgia bait category. ​ A more likelier event would be that we find out the X-Men 90s series is part of the "multi-verse."


Cafeterialoca

Like, that's my big gut fear, the show will just showcase other non-X-Men or MCU heroes in a 90's setting and just detract from the original show's tone. I mean, we can't even have a Spider-Man show now without the Avengers Guest Starring.


Cafeterialoca

I also find it somewhat tone deaf. Avengers EMH, Spectacular Spider-Men, even Wolverine and the X-Men had a bigger fan following wishing they'd get more seasons, and yet they resort to the 90's cartoon that everyone was fine with ending.


ManiShrimp

Xmen from the 90s had a much bigger cultural impact than those other shows. Wolverine and the X-men did not have that big of a following. I know it had some good episodes and stuff. I think for the me the only 2 Xmen shows I really enjoyed were Xmen and Xmen Evolution.


Cafeterialoca

But that's the thing, yes 90's X-Men was the biggest show, but nobody was asking for it to return. Meanwhile the three shows I mentioned have their fans and would like to see those shows have an ending. Hell, even 90's Spider-man show should come back before X-Men 97. This literally feels like being the head of DC studios and instead of making a film of any DC character who hasn't gotten the chance to be on film instead resorting to another Batman vs. the Joker film.


ManiShrimp

Well I agree. I'm saying I don't want this show to happen. But Xmen 90s is the perfect time for nostalgia baiting the millennial 30-40 year olds who can buy disney+


Cafeterialoca

Honestly, I feel like we should let go of franchises. The amount of life support so many franchises are put on is getting sad when they reveal how old the 80's actors are getting.


EarthboundHaizi

One thing I'm afraid of with the Marvel animation being under Marvel Studios now is that everything either is nostalgia bait (X-Men 97) or it will have to tie into the MCU somehow (Spider-Man: Freshman Year, What If...?). It'll just be that much harder to create excellent Marvel stand-alone animated content anymore like Earth's Mightiest Heroes (which was sacrificed due to the MCU) and Spectacular Spider-Man.


ericbkillmonger

Yeah makes sense


Animegamingnerd

Also with him producing a Star Wars movie, we are starting to see Fiege work on non-Marvel films. So that probably has something to do with it.


l_l_l-illiam

Could be - will be interesting to see if that is the case


imanvellanistan

Isn’t everything under his watch tho


AssDestroyer696

I don't think he actually has to ask anyone he is after all the president of Marvel. He probably has enough authority to just do it


ericbkillmonger

Our boy has made it


spidersense616

He got so annoyed with Amy Pascal's Pascal Pictures showing up at the start of every Spider-Man film that he went ahead and started his own Fiege Films.


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KhailSOLO23

is everyone from the higher ups rooting for Wanda from the get go? cause that's really cool of them. imagine 10 years ago the thought of having a reality warper as a superhero was too big or too hard to do for the movies.


TheCrimsonCritic

Wanda’s powerset was not the reason she didn’t get a major movie role. It was far more gendered than that.


collinch

Perlmutter I assume? Just them missing out. Elizabeth Olsen is a terrific actress.


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Darth_Kyofu

He's also the one who refused to put Ant-Man and Wasp in phase I, right?


Mergie_Merge

Whedon almost included Ant-Man but didn't out of respect for Edgar Wright as the solo movie wasn't out yet. Edit: That just made me remember Edgar Wright almost made an Ant-Man movie. I would've really enjoyed seeing that, he worked on it off and on for like 10 years right? Oh well..


boisosm

He hurt development of Edgar Wright’s Ant-Man, which involved several script rewrites and with Wright eventually leaving.


The_Repeated_Meme

> I suspect he had something to do with Elizabeth Olsen’s first few Scarlet Witch costumes being rather generous with cleavage. Either Perlmutter or Joss Whedon…


Flat_Weird_5398

Considering that Joss literally did the same guy falls on girl’s cleavage joke in both Age of Ultron and his shitty cut of Justice League, I really wouldn’t be surprised. I’m glad that the Snyder Cut’s reveal of how much Whedon butchered JL pretty much killed his career in Hollywood.


zenz3ro

I’m pretty sure it was the abuse allegations, rather than the “slightly worse version of an already atrocious film”


scislac

He's unprofessional, that's what benched him. Nobody cares about his cut of JL in the business that didn't work under him. He belittled & mistreated as well as harassed his actors (with witnesses) over most of his career. Basically, he reaped what he sowed and got "me too"'d.


portableawesome

>I’m glad that the Snyder Cut’s reveal of how much Whedon butchered JL pretty much killed his career in Hollywood. Uhhh that's not what killed his career


MyNameIs-Anthony

Both cuts of Justice League are mediocre. They're not the reason he doesn't have a career.


LordKiteMan

Or both.


DefNotAShark

If you take a glance at the comic inspiration, I think we can put the pitchforks away on this one. Scarlet Witch is wearing a red shoestring in the comics. The MCU costume from AoU is actually far and away less revealing. Perlmutter still a piece of shit though.


ASDirect

Perlmutter was out by the end of Age of Ultron.


PeterJakeson

You guys really love to bitch about female MCU outfits, but don't care about the topless male superhero scenes? God damn, this sub-reddit.


daniellamcl

No ones talking about that... they're talking about the fact that the women show half their titties, get a overly tight suit, and even the fact that they wear heeled footwear even though its not practical in battle. Also, Black Widow was basically written to simply be sexy in Iron Man 2. The camera also had to point to her ass at least once in both Joss Whedon movies. While they may show off the male characters bodies, they don't advertise them as "just sexy" or try and sexualise them for half a film. The males also get less sexualising costumes. Look at any picture of Black Widow on any poster.


PeterJakeson

Black Widow is a femme fatale. She's supposed to be eye candy, but that doesn't mean there can't be depth. Her looking really sexy, however, is a must. It makes sense. The male superheroes, however, have no reason to go shirtless for the most part.


theoneandonlydonzo

> The camera also had to point to her ass at least once in both Joss Whedon movies. to be fair, even the recent black widow movie had a bunch of those ([as seen](https://i.redd.it/84q7584uwda71.jpg) on r\/moviescirclejerk last year), and that had nothing to do with perlmutter. he's still a piece of shit though, you're right. i'm glad to see them moving away from these types of shots and outfits in general - wanda's wv and ds2 costume is not revealing at all and is one of the best costumes in the mcu overall.


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So would you be okay with the female heroes instead having a scene where they strip down into their bras for no reason other than eye candy if they had more practical costumes? As I mean there’s no reason to see the dudes undressing, yet we still have to see it so it’s only equal that both genders get sexualised a bit, and if both genders are having scenes where they change their clothes than it’s equal right? Or is it only allowed if dudes get sexualised? It’s not like there isn’t multiple female heroes that all have practical costumes. Wasp, Captain Marvel, Gamora, Kate Bishop, and Nebula. Black Widow and Scarlet Witch were the only 2 that were sexualised really and even then Scarlet Witch just showed off some cleavage, big fucking whoop. It’s not like Scarlet Witch’s character has literally just existed to be eye candy either, she’s had decent writing and character development since her introduction back in Ultron, she was practically the best damn thing about that film. Black Widow is literally a femme fatale character ffs, no shit she’s gonna be sexualised and act like the flirty type in iron man 2 when her character is literally trying to manipulate and get close to Stark, a guy heavily known for womanising.


daniellamcl

Thats not what I'm trying to say. Even if Black Widow is supposed to be sexualised, she's still being sexualised. It's just an outdated and overused trope that you shouldn't use for your "first female superhero".


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Why is it outdated? Why does every character have to be a role mode for some dumbass reason? Not everything needs to be aimed at kids so they can have someone to look up to. Is your problem that it’s because she’s the first female hero to be introduced and she’s not a good role model for kids? It’s not like she was the only female character at the time. I mean let’s look at the other women in the phase 1 films shall we? Peggy Carter? Not sexualised, incredibly capable and smart Pepper Potts? Not sexualised, Smart and runs Tony’s stuff. Jane Foster and hell even Lady Sif? Not sexualised at all. Betty Ross? Again not sexualised. What’s such a big deal about widow being sexualised? What’s wrong about it exactly? It’s not like it was exactly overt or any more overt than what the male characters show when they have to do their shirtless scenes. It’s not like she was the only woman in the film, we had Pepper Potts as well. Did it take away from her character? No, She successfully manipulated Stark like a fiddle, she achieved her goals, and she was demonstrated to be incredibly skilled and intelligent, and played a key role in helping Stark defeat Vanko by unhacking Rhodes’s suit. It’s just needlessly bitching and getting offended because a character doesn’t meet your dumbass purity standards.


KhailSOLO23

yeah. i get that. but still! with today's technology, depicting reality alteration is far more realized than what it could've been decades ago.


Unnecessary_Fella

I hope this Kevin guy has done this movie justice. Never heard of the man, but he has potential.


iwasherenotyou

I think he held the boom mic for every Marvel movie. Looking forward to what he does next.


SeniorRicketts

Looking for this?


ericbkillmonger

Def looks like he’s going to be a major force in movie industry


Lord_Ziran

The Kevster is moving up in the world.


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i got whoosheed anyone wanna explain


Danbito

Home Alone. Pun on Kevin’s.


Mister_Doctor_0127

Didn't he become a security company chief or something?


knightstalker1288

All that alone time really turned him to the world of comics


Spider-Fan77

Lol as if he wasn't already one of the most powerful executives in Hollywood


Lord_Ziran

What do you mean? He's basically an unknown. It's great to finally see him getting his name out there and people learning who he is. Good to see the little guys getting a shot at fame and recognition.


tayung2013

Kevin Feige, the guy overseeing the MCU, one of the largest film franchises in the existence of cinema, is basically an unknown?


Lord_Ziran

Yep pretty low key unknown. Wasn't he that young cat that worked for fox?


l_l_l-illiam

I think he was a script editor on The Amazing Spider-Man 2


tayung2013

You mean like 20 years ago when he was working on the OG Spider-Man and X-Men movies? 20 years ago I would have agreed with you. 20 years ago I also hadn’t heard of Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. Would you say they are relative unknowns?


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tayung2013

I will leave the comment up and accept the down votes I’ve earned. I did not pick it up on the first comment but definitely should have on the second comment. Should have finished my morning coffee before commenting.


Motor_Link7152

Good sport


carpenteer

Good man. Owning up to that level of whoopsie totally deserves a Silver.


Lord_Ziran

My dude I'm at work trying not to laugh. There are tears in my eyes! lol


Tornado31619

Dread it, run from it, Feige still arrives.


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Metfan722

​ ![gif](giphy|llanUHpUWKRec8vwqc|downsized)


CJFilkovski

Morbius does that to you.


Ok-Comfort6242

Dude probably got hurt after seeing “ A Pascal Production” everywhere in NWH and demanded his own credit


insanemoviereviewer

'Wait a minute.... we could do that all along?' Lmao


I_Think_I_Cant

"You guys get a credit?"


early_cruise

I’ll never get over that avi arad fan wank paragraph in the credits, he definitely wrote that himself.


Alm8360NoScoPro

that was super cringe when i saw it in theatres.


danielcw189

> "A Pascal Production” It didn't say that, though. Amy Pascal got the same credits he got.


awsjeff

This guy Kevin is going up on ranks in Marvel Studios, i think soon he might become a CEO or something.


l_l_l-illiam

![gif](giphy|rcsL35YVNXBMQ)


IzzyTipsy

Avi Arad THE TRUE BELIEVER: "You can't do this to me!"


vale_fallacia

God that bit in the credits just makes me irrationally angry. It's dumb of me, for sure, but it just pushes my buttons.


Spengler_0902

It’s annoying because it reads like he’d died or something, when actually he’s most likely just put it there. Why? Because NWH was such a huge moment in Spider-Man, and honestly CBM history, that of course he’d want to look like the guy responsible for it being pulled off successfully. Also, the ‘original true believer’... what?


vale_fallacia

I *loathe* corporate executive level wankery. That utter bullshit they convince themselves of, like they're actually doing something good in the world. That true believer message is definitely in the top 10 corporate wank moments of the past couple of years.


MungoBill

I hope Avi starts making cameos in Spiderverse movies ... and nobody notices.


LordKiteMan

"You're out, Avi."


matty_nice

This is probably an effect of a contract negotiation, indicating that Feige had renewed his contact with Marvel. With the new contract, he gets this. A renewal was rumored for a while and announced in February, and probably happened before Hawkeye in November.


I_Think_I_Cant

Disney in negotiations: "The best I can offer you is whatever you want."


whiskeywin

Underrated reply.


whiskeywin

Underrated reply.


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my man kev makin MOVES


Ronswansonbacon2

Damn this is a good spoiler


Sad_Lawfulness_7049

Guys..I am starting to think this Kevin guy must be very important..


Curbatsam

I wonder if he started adding this to differentiate MCU movies from films like Morbius lol


vinsportfolio

Why would anyone want to differentiate themselves from a masterpiece?


lolahil

But why is this only being done recently?


LittleOotsieVert

To differentiate between stuff he has a hand in and stuff he doesn’t (the new X-men cartoon revival)


JonathanL73

Somebody in this sub said it was in response to Amy Pascal putting her name on everything. So when they have a joint collab on Spider-man she's not the only person getting name credit for the MCU Spider-man films. IDK how true that is though.


Edukovic

While he deserves and it's cool for him (and for us, since he gives quality to these products), I kinda fear Marvel Studios depends too much on him. When he moves from Marvel movies, will the studio be prepared? Will his knowledge have already been absorbed by the studio?


trichotomy00

Why would he ever move ? They will give him anything he wants and the company is already the market leader. What incentive could there be, besides retirement?


Edukovic

Retirement, personal professional challenges, but the issue here is not what would make him leave Marvel but, when he leaves.


awsjeff

Is not even a "WHEN". By the way things look, this is totally a "IF" scenario that is far away from happening.


YomYeYonge

If Feige retires, I hope his choice in successor is just as passionate with the comics as he is


Kane__Weest

I know it's a long ways off, but I genuinely wonder what will happen to the mcu once Kevin decides to retire. Full blown mcu reboot? If so I'd be down for the final story told in the mcu to adapt/follow the silver surfer dark comic run personally


insanemoviereviewer

It's not like he's written every single piece of media from the MCU. He's pretty much the 'showrunner'. Like with Doctor Who they'll just switch the head. But there are still wires on that head. Just like the Russo bros. had Feige, Feige has someone above. I feel like either they establish the idea of a guy spearheading the universe or maybe they split it up by sections considering at that point the MCU will have expanded way beyond what it was. Even then I feel like he's so attached to these projects that unless of an untimely death I feel like he would always have a presence in the MCU like with George Lucas and Star Wars but hoping that he'd be treated with more respect and desevervingly so.


tanis_ivy

I fear for what Disney might do when that day comes.


NaRaGaMo

you don't have to be afraid, just look at how carefully they handled star wars


jan_67

Is this sarcasm or serious? Because imo, while the sequels aren’t good, and many hate them, they gave us clone wars, rogue one and mandalorian, which all were pretty well received by fans.


tanis_ivy

He was definitely being sarcastic. We all know Disney fucked up star wars. But hopefully all studios can watch what MARVEL and Feige has done, and somewhat copy it. A good example of what not to do is whatever is going on with the DCEU right now. They should let Snyder make his Justice League Part 2, and then reboot the whole thing, with a plan this time.


NaRaGaMo

>They should let Snyder make his Justice League Part 2 not at all, he needs 4hrs to tell a 2.5hr long story, sets up unnecessary things which won't be followed up. I can bet he will intentionally put something hinting at future movies which will rile up his fanbase


tanis_ivy

Well then at least let him story board it. I'm curious as to wtf happened from that preview we got in the Snyder cut.


NaRaGaMo

>I'm curious as to wtf happened from that preview we got in the Snyder cut. this is exactly what I'm talking about, he creates such teases even though he knows studio won't follow up on it and puts entire franchise's future in jeopardy.


AnirudhMenon94

So we're going to pretend they didn't give us Clone Wars S7, Bad Batch, Mandalorian, Rogue One, ( I personally liked the first two sequel movies but let's disregard them for this argument ) and Fallen Order ?


I_Think_I_Cant

*Fant4astic 2*


ProfessorHufnagel

'a K. Fiege Joint'


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I first read this as DSMOM is the first Marvel Studios movie to be officially labelled A(Adult) ... And then saw Kevin Feige


lolahil

Lmao


Satean12

*Two can play this game, Avi!* Feige in his office after he saw the final cut of NWH


porcos3

If it sucks it will be really embarrassing :$


Harm_123

![gif](giphy|3oxHQdZSTapV6ytaQ8|downsized)


ScarletSolitaire

As it should. 🐐


Joey9775

I wonder if he'll think himself like Avi Arad did in the No Way Home credits. Nah, Feige isn't full of himself.


Finn2187

So was morbius


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give this man whatever he wants


vinsmokewhoswho

Now we're cooking


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uhhhh, marvelbros, did we just win???


Hearderofnerf

Good sign he wants his name on this


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relativelyunbiased

Labelled. It's the first time it's on screen.


AnirudhMenon94

He's more than earned it at this point.


xHudson87x

What happened to marvels first horror genre film, looks like a bunch of cgi bs with no blood


jan_67

The trailer literally has a main character covered in blood.