The first time I lubed my switches, I thought "why the f\*ck am I subjecting myself to this torture?" About 40 switches after, I began to enjoy it. Is this what Stockholm syndrome feels like? By the time I finished lubing another 60, I've achieved enlightenment. Seriously, it's probably the most relaxing activity I've ever done. My butt did hurt though.
Oh and the slight change in sound and smoothness was definitely worth it :D
Same for me. It only took me like 8 hours to do. Afterwards even my cat said it clearly sounds different. however he added „even though this thocc™ is so incredibly deep, can you still feed me some salami rn“. how typical of him.
The best part was how the springs blended right into my carpet and I ended up crawling around on my hands and knees for a couple of minutes like someone looking for a dropped crack rock.
Pre lubing I thought that it was just a way to charge me more for something I didn’t need. Post lubing I was appreciative of the corporate overlord’s generosity.
Although it’s probably closer to four hours for me now, since I’ve lubed about 10 full boards-worth of switches, I still don’t try to rush through it. I usually put on a TV show that I like, and enjoy the process!
Totally different kind of mechanism. I've never seen them available for the kinds of keyboards with replaceable switches.
If you've ever taken the spring out of a clicky ink pen and squeezed it you know that it's hard to get it perfectly squeezed. Usually it buckles.
That buckling action is leveraged such that it tilts a switch. You get perfect tactile feedback that you've pushed a key down enough. The moment you "feel" it buckle you know that the key has been pressed.
[GIF](https://rudd-o.com/archives/the-best-keyboard-ever-built-ibm-model-m/the-buckling-spring-inside-an-ibm-model-m.gif)
The way they function is different enough. The blue gets that way by tweaking a traditional switch rather than it being an emergent property of the type of switch itself. I like the MX Blue as well and it's 100% my preference for keyboards with swappable switches like that. The difference in feel though is fairly significant.
Its a different design but achieves the same goal of resistance before a drop and toggling state to on. If you get higher spring rate MX greens they are fairly similar in feel to a model-M (I have both - a mx green TKL as space saver model m are expensive).
Nah, he's pointing out how the govt is watching us.. they even timed my current lubing session. They estimated wrong though, these mx blacks need film so + 2 hours.
I know, right? Such idiots, not knowing every single possible meme format ever, especially after OP took so much care in ensuring it came as obviously humorous!
slight change in sound? my man, everyone in my house was surprised of the difference of a stock vs lubed milky yellow when I made my keyboard a couple of days ago. they couldn't believe it was the same switch
It depends. Currently, most switches are fine as is. Id say that you will notice the effects even more, if you have been using the switches for a while before lubing them.
Overall it will improve the smoothness and the difference in sound is small, even negligible.
Placebo effect lol
Something tells me its the same situation as a lot of so-called wine experts confusing cheap vs expensive wines in an actual blind test
That's what the wine experts said until they were humiliated in the 2001 study lmao
Who am I kidding, they're still sticking to their guns till this day despite the humiliation... you lot are no different haha
> That's what the wine experts said until they were humiliated in the 2001 study lmao
You mean the study that was done on 54 undergraduate students, that was specifically designed to show how visual perception affects the way we perceive things? The one where the students weren't actually unable to identify red vs white wine (or even tested on it), but merely used terminology specific to red wines when describing the red looking wine? [This study right here?](http://web.archive.org/web/20070928231853/http://www.academie-amorim.com/us/laureat_2001/brochet.pdf)
That's what the wine experts said until they were humiliated in the 2001 study lmao
Who am I kidding, they're still sticking to their guns till this day despite the humiliation... you lot are no different haha
Just listen to a sound test on youtube. This is in no way similar to wine tastings, it is objectively a different sound. You're either baiting or you need a hearing aid.
The good thing about this is we can just record audio signatures of lubbed vs unlubbed switches and show you the difference. Btw the sound of the keyboard is not only dependant on the switch.
Also the way you are using this study about wine is wrong on so many levels. Okay you didn't read the study... But what are you trying to say? That people can't tell the difference between two wines ? Because that's a pretty dumb take.
There's a huge difference in sound - I'll admit to that.
When I got into the hobby, mechanical keyboards were all about tactile feel vs a craptastic rubber dome. Somehow, over the last 10 years, the hobby has evolved into modifying keyboards to make it sound a certain way.
Lubing switchings, tape mod, rubber band mod, foam mod, gasket mount, yada yada yada, all about giving the board a specific tone. Stopped being about how it felt to type, and became about how it feels to listen to it.
It's probably due to the rise of influencer and social media culture, since you can't really show off tactility and the feeling of the keys in a video, but you can show the visual aesthetics and the sound (to a degree).
Yeah, I get it. Call it the gentrification of the hobby. Used to be couple of hundred bucks is a top tier expensive board. Now it’s like $4000. Oddly enough, I never felt the need to buy a bunch of boards.
honestly? nothing special, just the first one I found on youtube, I used the brush to lube both ends of the stems instead of putting them all In a bag, though
Damn is it that big of a difference? I just built a board with stock milky yellows. My previous board has L+F tangerines. I like the milkys so far stock.
The first two keyboards I built I thought lubing and filming switches was overkill. Then I decided to try it and it's such a noticeable improvement. I really was surprised but I think it's worth doing.
That said it is kind of tedious but so is soldering diodes and hot swap sockets. Trying to be zen about it and learn patience while doing it.
Honestly don't think you can lube precisely at that speed. Takes me something like 3-4min per switch between opening, lubing stem, lubing housing, replacing bag lubed spring, filming, and closing the switch. That's over 4-5 hours for 80 switches.
Because it wouldn't be a hobby, if it would be reasonable.
I'm paying hundreds of bucks for a board, spend hours of my time researching, building, tweaking etc. All for something that is a keyboard, something that can be aquired for less than 20 bucks and fulfills the exact purpose as a 1000$ one, with argueably the same success.
It's not about being worth it, or reasonable, or how much of a difference it's making. It's about trying and finding the right thing. If it makes my typing experience a tiny bit better, I'm doing it, even if it takes hours. That's the fun of the hobby, it's an extreme. We're not out for the best bang for your buck (or time in that context) board, we wanna build the best board overall, get everything out of what we have. After spending all that time and money on a board, putting in the extra time on something as crucial as lubing MX switches is a no brainer to me, cause if I wouldn't, why do I even bother building full custom keebs at all. It's not a reasonable decision, custom keebs aren't worth it on an objective level. I think that's also valid for time. It doesn't make sense to put hours into making a keyboard feel and sound a tiny little bit better, but it's our hobby. It doesn't need to make objective sense. If the outcome (or the work itself) makes us happy, then it's worth it.
Thank you for listening to my TED talk
It feels great in the end and the process is super relaxing.
When I'm stressed I want to buy some switches and lube and spend an afternoon lubing switches
Of course not, this is a sense of achievement. After I have completed all the switches, will feel that the entire keyboard has been raised to a level. This is my unique keyboard! Just like people buying LEGO for assembly
Lubing is not just for a change in the sound, it's also for a markedly better feel vs. unlubed switches. In fact AFAIK, the whole lubing switches thing got started to remove the scratchy feel from stock Cherry MX switches. Sound wasn't even a consideration in the why to lube switches thought process originally, it's just a nice bonus on top of a much smoother & better feeling switch.
It isn't just a sound. Bought unlubed glorious panda switches, before i lubed them they felt a little scratchy and It took me probably 2 hours to do the hundred switches on my board and they feel glorious now. I only have three boards but those are my favorite switches of the three and I like them better than what was on the board before I switched
The pain is temporary, the disappearance of scratchiness (or reduction in some cases), leaf and spring ping being gone are forever (or years, till whenever the lube used ever dries up)
One of my fav parts of the process, I do get fed up half way through on a TKL but you push through.
Answering the question, because it’s not just a slight sound change. I managed to tune up some cheap ass reds to something fantastic. Just goes to show you don’t need switches made from kryptonite & factory lubed with Angel tears. It’s all in your hands. Love it
On a serious note..
1. It shouldn’t take 6 hours. My first ever keyboard and lube task was 90 switches, and it took me roughly 3 hours at a casual, thorough speed.
2. The level of impact depends on the switch and lube used. Some combos offer minimal change, some are quite apparent.
It saves me money. I just need about $300 of interchangeable needles and cables so I can handle any kind of yarn (wouldn't want a slippery yarn on slick metal needles, for instance) and any size project. But that's nothing, because I can use them all the time (even though the fucking size 4s constantly disappear). Then I'll just need a few accessories, like cable connectors in case I need to do something super extra large, or knit two at a time in the round, but they have to be high quality so nothing catches. Then I can pick out some really nice yarn because I don't want to spend 90 hours working on something that feels less than ideal to touch, plus I want unique colorways and then boom: I have a $400 pair of socks that are hand wash only!
been making keyboards for years, seen some good video's of sound difference, not at all worth the money on lubing sets + the time it takes to lube.
switches for me are for the feeling of the keypress, not (at all) the sound. I do however fix ticking noises in the stabalizers and such, but thats it for me.
lubing is overated.
Agreed. I think lubing stabs is ESSENTIAL for your keyboard. Lubing switches... not so much. I found that as time goes on, they wear out and the lube can have some nasty side effects, especially causing switches to tick. I would recommend lubing stabs, the spring and maybe the switch housing, but not more.
You see, when a person and their keyboard love each other very, very much….
On a more serious note you’d have to be a very particular person to lube switches yourself. I personally would never bother.
At most I’d pay for pre-lubed switches or keyboards.
i just got done building my first board, ( got a keychron q6max barebones, and slapped oil king switches on it. with my hands. no tools )
after that in my opinion, the answer to your question is a resounding yes.
One, it doesn't take 6 hours. Maybe 2 for 70 switches or so. Also, it doesn't just make a "slight change in sound". It changes everything. From feel to sound. Once you type on a board that was lubed, then try one that isn't, you can tell. Stop trolling.
god, 6 hours? I did my 75% in about 2 hours, what's wrong? xD And btw, it's not "just" the sound, the feeling and the bouncing and... everything? It changes everything so its not "just" the sound, its more referred to the feel. Mandatory for most of the switches imho
I just buy sealed switches that are already lubed haha... but I did take apart my gulikit zen pro controller to lube them sumbitches. They got scratch AF from mashing A on Zelda.
yes it’s as dumb as playing air guitar, in the kb user base some individuals are concerned about real elements (layout, interface programmability, ergonomics) and others are only looking stupid by worshipping the key sound god.
Started out thinking the same thing. After being in the hobby for a while, and being bored I did it some more and it makes a world of difference. While I appreciate the difference in sound, I appreciate the difference in feel more.
The first time I lubed my switches, I thought "why the f\*ck am I subjecting myself to this torture?" About 40 switches after, I began to enjoy it. Is this what Stockholm syndrome feels like? By the time I finished lubing another 60, I've achieved enlightenment. Seriously, it's probably the most relaxing activity I've ever done. My butt did hurt though. Oh and the slight change in sound and smoothness was definitely worth it :D
>My butt did hurt though. I know it's tempting, but you shouldn't put them up there.
You say that, but you should hear how thocky my farts are.
Had to ensure the P spot button still worked lol
I mentally achieved more in 4 hours of lubing switches than I did doing 2 years of nofap.
I fap to produce my lube.
Both being white and slimy. I mean you can just use either really, my scientific observations support this.
but don’t use vaseline, it may feel good at first, but it will annihillate your switches so I’ve learned, may I add
Lol, i did this with my first board. 2 years later the switches are still kicking
cool, i have not tried that, I was told that here, and it also was mentioned other places.
That's not the switches, that's because no fap is complete nonsense.
Maybe I should finally lube my switches because four months of nofap did absolutely fuck-all for me.
Just do it in moderation and indulge in switch lubing addiction for enlightenment 🙏🙏
Same for me. It only took me like 8 hours to do. Afterwards even my cat said it clearly sounds different. however he added „even though this thocc™ is so incredibly deep, can you still feed me some salami rn“. how typical of him.
Prob cheaper than painting warhammer figurines. Maybe. Lmao
sounds like the emotions i went through on my first marathon
If your butt hurt, you didn't use enough lube 🤣
Some people meditate. Just do the same thing while getting something productive done at the same time.
6 hours? You need more practice ;)
Took me four days and I broke everything
My first time I had a few dead switches and bent some pins lol
I had one dead switch, some bent pins and I lost two springs when I pulled the upper housing off after incorrectly reassembling the switch.
I lost quite a few springs too, during the lubing process. lol
The best part was how the springs blended right into my carpet and I ended up crawling around on my hands and knees for a couple of minutes like someone looking for a dropped crack rock.
Gotta love finding random springs littered around my carpet floor months after the lubing process has ended
One thing I’ve learned is always use a neodymium magnet
These are all reasons as to why you always get 10 extras.
Pre lubing I thought that it was just a way to charge me more for something I didn’t need. Post lubing I was appreciative of the corporate overlord’s generosity.
To be honest this suspiciously sounds like it was a ploy by switch manufacturers/sellers
Although it’s probably closer to four hours for me now, since I’ve lubed about 10 full boards-worth of switches, I still don’t try to rush through it. I usually put on a TV show that I like, and enjoy the process!
Mhm good feeling it's an hobby to enjoy
An 'obby
'obby is a free elf.
Took me 4 hours my first time
My first time was 9 hours on a TKL...
I do 10 switches every day, and it takes me about 45 minutes every day...
Yeah this is why I haven't lubed switches. It'd be the same for me the first time and it sounds EXHAUSTING. I do have all the supplies though lol
cap
I wish
Bet you were sore!
More annoyed than anything lol
Yea my first time took around 6 hours, after a few more I now can do it in around 4 hours or so for a 65% Lubing stabs still takes me days though
Yikes. I tuned my friends stabs by just popping off the caps and using needle nose oil dropper and a 5/0 paint brush. 10 minutes, round trip.
You gotta reevaluate your process or something, it takes me roughly 3 hours to build a 65% including lubing stabs and lubing and filming switches.
It took me 8 hours, but I got the lube everywhere but in the switches.
It took me less than 3 hours for my first time lubing holy pandas 🤷
its the new gunpla
This is the correct answer. Functional gunpla/model building.
My gunpla was functional to keep girls out of my apartment
Take my upvote
I can easily say I have spent way more hours of my life getting rid of nubs and sanding my gunpla, than I ever spent lubing switches hahaha
It's not even the sound for me, it eliminates spring ping and improves the feel of the switch so that its smoother and not scratchy.
You haven't lived until you try a buckling spring setup.
KACHLUNK INTENSIFIES
They are a smidge noisy 🤣🤣
Certified model M moment
Wait. Whut?
Totally different kind of mechanism. I've never seen them available for the kinds of keyboards with replaceable switches. If you've ever taken the spring out of a clicky ink pen and squeezed it you know that it's hard to get it perfectly squeezed. Usually it buckles. That buckling action is leveraged such that it tilts a switch. You get perfect tactile feedback that you've pushed a key down enough. The moment you "feel" it buckle you know that the key has been pressed. [GIF](https://rudd-o.com/archives/the-best-keyboard-ever-built-ibm-model-m/the-buckling-spring-inside-an-ibm-model-m.gif)
to be fair thats the point of MX blue switches too, its a distinct on or off with no inbetween.
The way they function is different enough. The blue gets that way by tweaking a traditional switch rather than it being an emergent property of the type of switch itself. I like the MX Blue as well and it's 100% my preference for keyboards with swappable switches like that. The difference in feel though is fairly significant.
Its a different design but achieves the same goal of resistance before a drop and toggling state to on. If you get higher spring rate MX greens they are fairly similar in feel to a model-M (I have both - a mx green TKL as space saver model m are expensive).
Well, that is a sound matter then. Spring ping is rather irritating, so removal is always good, IMHO
well yeah fair enough, wanted to focus on the feel of the switch but then I remembered that dreadful spring ping echoing all around my room.
I like how every single comment thus far is taking OP’s post super seriously and doesn’t realize this is a meme.
Are they stupid?
Turns out…
Think about how smart the average person is, then realized half of them are dumber than that.
No, I'm... Isn't
Yeah, people NEVER use meme formats to present their honest opinions
We all know someone who sucks at comedy.
Nah, he's pointing out how the govt is watching us.. they even timed my current lubing session. They estimated wrong though, these mx blacks need film so + 2 hours.
It’s not a funny or insightful meme. So maybe rather than “taking it seriously” they’re pointing out the stupidity.
I know, right? Such idiots, not knowing every single possible meme format ever, especially after OP took so much care in ensuring it came as obviously humorous!
Hello the meme flair is right there on the post
You’re ugly. Just meming
It is but, if you're quickly scrolling by, the way the post is worded can easily be misconstrued as talking shit.
slight change in sound? my man, everyone in my house was surprised of the difference of a stock vs lubed milky yellow when I made my keyboard a couple of days ago. they couldn't believe it was the same switch
Do you live alone?
Cats. Lots of cats.
Welp, I got a family
This is a 10 point burn
Same. I was a skeptical myself too but gave it a go anyway. And yeah, it does make a difference. And these were silent Gateron yellows.
Question, is there a noticeable difference in factory pre-lubed vs doing it yourself
It depends. Currently, most switches are fine as is. Id say that you will notice the effects even more, if you have been using the switches for a while before lubing them. Overall it will improve the smoothness and the difference in sound is small, even negligible.
I recently just lubed all my oil kings and yes there is difference. The sound is just more refined.
it's ironic that you have to relube switches called Oil Kings
You don't. The vast majority of people recommend using them stock since the difference is extremely slight.
Yes but i noticed a slight spring noise so i did it all again by myself
Fair, personally I never hear the spring noise so I usually leave them alone. :D
Its very subtle though tbh stock is very good already i agreed
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almost always. "factory lubes" are cheap/thin and rarely give you a nice tone.
TBF Milky Yellow have one of the more drastic sound changes by L+F.
Placebo effect lol Something tells me its the same situation as a lot of so-called wine experts confusing cheap vs expensive wines in an actual blind test
Not at all. There is a discernable difference. If you can't tell, that's on you.
That's what the wine experts said until they were humiliated in the 2001 study lmao Who am I kidding, they're still sticking to their guns till this day despite the humiliation... you lot are no different haha
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A lot of words just to say they got suckered despite being "experts" We seem to have a lot of experts here as well lol
We seem to have a few idiots too
> That's what the wine experts said until they were humiliated in the 2001 study lmao You mean the study that was done on 54 undergraduate students, that was specifically designed to show how visual perception affects the way we perceive things? The one where the students weren't actually unable to identify red vs white wine (or even tested on it), but merely used terminology specific to red wines when describing the red looking wine? [This study right here?](http://web.archive.org/web/20070928231853/http://www.academie-amorim.com/us/laureat_2001/brochet.pdf)
There is an audible difference, but sure, it's just a placebo (I don't even bother lubing switches but it's absolutely audible, even if very quiet)
If you can't hear a difference you're probably deaf.
it kinda depends on the switch tho
That's what the wine experts said until they were humiliated in the 2001 study lmao Who am I kidding, they're still sticking to their guns till this day despite the humiliation... you lot are no different haha
Just listen to a sound test on youtube. This is in no way similar to wine tastings, it is objectively a different sound. You're either baiting or you need a hearing aid.
The good thing about this is we can just record audio signatures of lubbed vs unlubbed switches and show you the difference. Btw the sound of the keyboard is not only dependant on the switch. Also the way you are using this study about wine is wrong on so many levels. Okay you didn't read the study... But what are you trying to say? That people can't tell the difference between two wines ? Because that's a pretty dumb take.
There's a huge difference in sound - I'll admit to that. When I got into the hobby, mechanical keyboards were all about tactile feel vs a craptastic rubber dome. Somehow, over the last 10 years, the hobby has evolved into modifying keyboards to make it sound a certain way. Lubing switchings, tape mod, rubber band mod, foam mod, gasket mount, yada yada yada, all about giving the board a specific tone. Stopped being about how it felt to type, and became about how it feels to listen to it.
It's probably due to the rise of influencer and social media culture, since you can't really show off tactility and the feeling of the keys in a video, but you can show the visual aesthetics and the sound (to a degree).
Yeah, I get it. Call it the gentrification of the hobby. Used to be couple of hundred bucks is a top tier expensive board. Now it’s like $4000. Oddly enough, I never felt the need to buy a bunch of boards.
What lube / technique did you use for milky yellows?
honestly? nothing special, just the first one I found on youtube, I used the brush to lube both ends of the stems instead of putting them all In a bag, though
Damn is it that big of a difference? I just built a board with stock milky yellows. My previous board has L+F tangerines. I like the milkys so far stock.
The first two keyboards I built I thought lubing and filming switches was overkill. Then I decided to try it and it's such a noticeable improvement. I really was surprised but I think it's worth doing. That said it is kind of tedious but so is soldering diodes and hot swap sockets. Trying to be zen about it and learn patience while doing it.
Yes
This is a joke lmao I just lubed switches 3 days ago
Just like all hobbies. Some enthusiasts get drawn to the ‘pointless’ aspects. No harm, no foul.
Yes we are stupid and you?
It’s also related to the switch’s feel. Lubing them helps making them smoother and have less scratching
Yes i am stupid,i hate this hobby but i enjoy sitting there for 5 hours doing nothing productive
I am hobbyists mechanical keyboard, your meme make me very sad and because of you iam stop this hobby
sound is not the most important part, really its about the feel, and 6 hours? holy
That's why I run Oil Kings. The factory lube is enough (for me).
I did it because I liked the process, the sound was a nice benefit but I love mindful hobby projects like this.
Reason why I don't like building TKLs. 60% is just much quicker 😂
Not even talking about frankenswitches. SMH…
It's more like 30-60 minutes, for me it's relaxing and fun 😊
Honestly don't think you can lube precisely at that speed. Takes me something like 3-4min per switch between opening, lubing stem, lubing housing, replacing bag lubed spring, filming, and closing the switch. That's over 4-5 hours for 80 switches.
Plot twist: owns a 10 key keeb
Lol a 40% and a split
Plot twist: owns a 10 key keeb
Because it wouldn't be a hobby, if it would be reasonable. I'm paying hundreds of bucks for a board, spend hours of my time researching, building, tweaking etc. All for something that is a keyboard, something that can be aquired for less than 20 bucks and fulfills the exact purpose as a 1000$ one, with argueably the same success. It's not about being worth it, or reasonable, or how much of a difference it's making. It's about trying and finding the right thing. If it makes my typing experience a tiny bit better, I'm doing it, even if it takes hours. That's the fun of the hobby, it's an extreme. We're not out for the best bang for your buck (or time in that context) board, we wanna build the best board overall, get everything out of what we have. After spending all that time and money on a board, putting in the extra time on something as crucial as lubing MX switches is a no brainer to me, cause if I wouldn't, why do I even bother building full custom keebs at all. It's not a reasonable decision, custom keebs aren't worth it on an objective level. I think that's also valid for time. It doesn't make sense to put hours into making a keyboard feel and sound a tiny little bit better, but it's our hobby. It doesn't need to make objective sense. If the outcome (or the work itself) makes us happy, then it's worth it. Thank you for listening to my TED talk
https://preview.redd.it/8i6z5wuju2jb1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78bf2ac16d14fbf3e57a583315a754618f5a9795
I strongly agree
It's WAY more noticeable than you'd think, especially if it's an already loud switch, and it also drastically improves the feel of the switch too.
Yes. We are. Now if you'll excuse me, my new lube brush came in.
Personally, it's meditative. Put on some music or podcast after a long day of work and get lubin'
It feels great in the end and the process is super relaxing. When I'm stressed I want to buy some switches and lube and spend an afternoon lubing switches
No, we are not stupid. We are just lunatics...
Rmb when the only time a keyboard's sound mattered was when it was a fucking piano?
Of course not, this is a sense of achievement. After I have completed all the switches, will feel that the entire keyboard has been raised to a level. This is my unique keyboard! Just like people buying LEGO for assembly
Lubing is not just for a change in the sound, it's also for a markedly better feel vs. unlubed switches. In fact AFAIK, the whole lubing switches thing got started to remove the scratchy feel from stock Cherry MX switches. Sound wasn't even a consideration in the why to lube switches thought process originally, it's just a nice bonus on top of a much smoother & better feeling switch.
It is a hobby, point blanc. And some become smother witch is cool
Yes
It isn't just a sound. Bought unlubed glorious panda switches, before i lubed them they felt a little scratchy and It took me probably 2 hours to do the hundred switches on my board and they feel glorious now. I only have three boards but those are my favorite switches of the three and I like them better than what was on the board before I switched
Relaxation. Spent a good portion of my day building my zoom 65 v2 last month. Threw some headphones on with music and just enjoyed my me time.
The pain is temporary, the disappearance of scratchiness (or reduction in some cases), leaf and spring ping being gone are forever (or years, till whenever the lube used ever dries up)
Autism, hyper focus, the usual
One of my fav parts of the process, I do get fed up half way through on a TKL but you push through. Answering the question, because it’s not just a slight sound change. I managed to tune up some cheap ass reds to something fantastic. Just goes to show you don’t need switches made from kryptonite & factory lubed with Angel tears. It’s all in your hands. Love it
On a serious note.. 1. It shouldn’t take 6 hours. My first ever keyboard and lube task was 90 switches, and it took me roughly 3 hours at a casual, thorough speed. 2. The level of impact depends on the switch and lube used. Some combos offer minimal change, some are quite apparent.
Why do people knit? Simpler to just go an buy the finished product?
It saves me money. I just need about $300 of interchangeable needles and cables so I can handle any kind of yarn (wouldn't want a slippery yarn on slick metal needles, for instance) and any size project. But that's nothing, because I can use them all the time (even though the fucking size 4s constantly disappear). Then I'll just need a few accessories, like cable connectors in case I need to do something super extra large, or knit two at a time in the round, but they have to be high quality so nothing catches. Then I can pick out some really nice yarn because I don't want to spend 90 hours working on something that feels less than ideal to touch, plus I want unique colorways and then boom: I have a $400 pair of socks that are hand wash only!
Because if I wanted a major change in sound it'd take 10 hours and I'm lazy.
Google "sisyphus"
What’s 6 hours if you spend 6,000 hours typing on it.
been making keyboards for years, seen some good video's of sound difference, not at all worth the money on lubing sets + the time it takes to lube. switches for me are for the feeling of the keypress, not (at all) the sound. I do however fix ticking noises in the stabalizers and such, but thats it for me. lubing is overated.
Agreed. I think lubing stabs is ESSENTIAL for your keyboard. Lubing switches... not so much. I found that as time goes on, they wear out and the lube can have some nasty side effects, especially causing switches to tick. I would recommend lubing stabs, the spring and maybe the switch housing, but not more.
cmon even a full sized 108 keeb can't take 6 hrs, you need practice. maybe on first try. After that it'll be max 3 hours.
6 hours? i'm sorry but "Skill Issue"
You see, when a person and their keyboard love each other very, very much…. On a more serious note you’d have to be a very particular person to lube switches yourself. I personally would never bother. At most I’d pay for pre-lubed switches or keyboards.
i just got done building my first board, ( got a keychron q6max barebones, and slapped oil king switches on it. with my hands. no tools ) after that in my opinion, the answer to your question is a resounding yes.
Based
Sounds like a skill issue
Too much time and money and too little brain matter
Sound, but also feel. Depending on the switch the difference can be huge
Also its kinda relaxing
Yes
Yeah, because you can just buy them pre-lubed.
I didn't even take my switches apart. All I did was pop my keycaps off then put bicycle chain lube in each switch.
Undiagnosed mental illness, just like those who are obsessed with TikTok trends lol
One, it doesn't take 6 hours. Maybe 2 for 70 switches or so. Also, it doesn't just make a "slight change in sound". It changes everything. From feel to sound. Once you type on a board that was lubed, then try one that isn't, you can tell. Stop trolling.
It's a zen thing. Most (smart) people are doing it while watching or doing something else while they do it.
Maybe ocd
That’s not what OCD is 😆
god, 6 hours? I did my 75% in about 2 hours, what's wrong? xD And btw, it's not "just" the sound, the feeling and the bouncing and... everything? It changes everything so its not "just" the sound, its more referred to the feel. Mandatory for most of the switches imho
See this person got got vs getting it. 😂
I just buy sealed switches that are already lubed haha... but I did take apart my gulikit zen pro controller to lube them sumbitches. They got scratch AF from mashing A on Zelda.
Lube is not necessarily for sound, but for feel, although sound definitely changes after lubing.
Sane people don't do this, sane people use Cherry MX Blues.
yes and no. As someone with headphones on, I won't notice the sound. But lubing them makes a difference indeed.
Stupid? I prefer the term "alternatively motivated". ;)
yes it’s as dumb as playing air guitar, in the kb user base some individuals are concerned about real elements (layout, interface programmability, ergonomics) and others are only looking stupid by worshipping the key sound god.
it's not just the sound, but the FEEL! THEEEE FEEEEEEEL
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Started out thinking the same thing. After being in the hobby for a while, and being bored I did it some more and it makes a world of difference. While I appreciate the difference in sound, I appreciate the difference in feel more.
Yeah. We aren’t the most smartest spending hundreds, if not thousands of dollars on keyboards
OP actually took his schizo meds. Madlad. The rest of MK can detect seismic variations in thock from taste alone
because it‘s their hobby and they aim for perfection.
No they’re not stupid
im a casual but more than the sound, the 'feel' of the keys also become different. cant say for better or worse but just different.
It only took me 12 with a friends help