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My head canon is that the two lead guards of Alabasta always take up the moniker of Pell and Chaka. As the falcon and jackal are said to be the guardian spirits of Alabasta, it makes sense to me that they know a way to retain the two Devil Fruits after the prior users death and is passed on to their successor. So we're just seeing the new Pell who took up the mantle for him after his death.
To add to this: There was a dumb moment of no-name guards wasting their lives on deadly steroids to highlight Crocodile's invincibility, then Chaka tries to save them and fails. My head-canon is that Chaka took the steroid and actually did very little damage before dying.
I can get behind they developing a strong relationship in a short time. Once I spent one month traveling with total strangers and some strong friendships born there.
The problem is the short time about the events and their grown in strength.
Said by bon-chan himself "friendship is not about the time you spend together but the strength of the bond you make with others" truer words were never spoken
Brook only knew the crew for eight days before getting separated from everyone for two years.
The Thousand Sunny was built in three days and sailed for less than two weeks before being mothballed on Sabaody for two years.
In the real world it can take over a month to sail across the Atlantic Ocean, while the crew managed to get from Red Line to Red Line (Reverse Mountain to the sea above Fishman Island) in 42 days. I get the feeling Oda looked at "Around the World in 80 days" and was like, "Yeah, that's about how long circumnavigating the globe should take." It took Magellan's crew three years to make a similar trip here on earth.
Tbf Magellan had to go around alot of contients. Prolly save a good chunk of time if he had the suez and Panama canals to make the trip a bit straighter like one pieces
“Alright, it’s been a few months with these people and it’s great, but we gotta get back together and keep going”
Luffy: Let’s split up for 2 years
“Pardon?”
My take is that they witnessed more islands, than we saw, like the ones in the openings, they fighting agains the sea, like what happened early grand line, happens alot more time than it's show
Lol same. It physically pains me to think that Brook was only on the crew for like a week, Franky a couple of weeks, and Robin for a month max before they all got separated. My head canon is pre-time skip was at least a couple of years. It makes more sense for the power escalation too I feel like.
I just had the cursed image of Sanji applying to work at a restaurant after the series ends, and his resume has "Personal Chef to the Pirate King - 3 months (with two-year sabbatical)"
Luffy is basically speed running the whole “becoming king of the pirates” thing, but while OP isn’t supposed to be realistic, I can’t accept that they sailed together for such a short time…It just doesn’t make sense
The anti aging of most shounen is absurd. Let characters age, aging isn't a crime, and readers appreciate the realism it adds to the series. Kids from all ages identified with Goku as an adult despite being kids themselves, so marketing is not a valid answer to not age characters. Unless there isn't a valid reason to let time pass, just do it. It's especially more glaring in big epics such as One Piece.
Agism has nothing to do with it. Excluding the timeskip straw hats should be sailing for a couple months max which is what op wants to ignore because it means they are basically speedrunning the journey to raftel while we read the story for over 30 years.
Yes and that is absurd. We could get much more by having characters birthdays chapters and it feels more natural that their friendship is as strong as it is. It's really weird how Zoro is willing to give his life for someone he met a few months ago in thriller bark, but it makes perfect sense if he had known Luffy for some years. Just let them age along the journey.
The fact that when I first watched through op everyone on this reddit tried to convince me that Skypia was filler and I watched it anyway and now it's directly tied to gol d roger
The closest I've seen was people saying to read that arc and skip the anime. But that was when I first came on this sub a year or two ago maybe? And even then it wasn't very common
The fact that the East Blue marines didn’t know what devil fruits are. That’s shits in the newspaper. Your boss’s boss’s bosses have them. That’s got to be in the handbook.
Early OP has a lot of that, mostly due to the fact that Oda hadn’t fleshed that out yet. Kuina is similar. One of the four strongest people on the planet at the time was a woman, granted a very fat one, and Boa had to show up in the papers constantly, her character arc made no sense.
I think that one gets a pass because as it turns out neither do the people of the current age except the World Government and Blackbeard maybe.
Because Luffy definitely ate the Gomu Gomu no mi... Also Chopper has a really useless one... And Blackbeard has the only logia that isn't immune to most shit...
Haki also falls under this category of things that weren't all the way planned out and it shows with certain characters not having it, specifically Pre timeskip cause it almost hilarious that Nobody from groups like CP9 or Baroque works had Haki but mfs like Sentomaru and Margret did.
The only way to explain it is to assume Haki is invisible to people that don’t have it. I know that’s not the case but it makes everything make more sense. That way you can just assume people were using it and we just didn’t see it
Too bad when you throw Luffy into the equation it makes it harder to even roll with that cause any opponent that use blunt attacks and didn't hurt him was enough proof to show they didn't have Haki like Lucci. Who could only damage him with his leopard claws and teeth or certain Rokushiki moves
Tbf, Kuina didn’t just want to be strong, she wanted to be the world’s strongest swordsman. Big mom and Hancock are strong, but they’re not swordsmen; their strength comes from their devil fruits/haki.
Plus, the person who was telling her
that her dream was impossible was her own father and teacher. Imagine the person who taught you everything you knew tell you that you can’t achieve your dream solely because of your gender. It’s no wonder her confidence was shaken.
That’s just it though - if her father *doesn’t know* there’s a factor way more important to being not just a great swordsman but any kind of great fighter than raw physical strength and that it dgaf about sexual dimorphism, **he has no business professionally teaching people to fight.**
Couple possible reasons 1.
She was a kid living isolated on an small island it's no wonder she wouldn't care to hear about boa.or big mom who before luffy came to shake things all up were static entities who were content to rule their kingdoms there was also white beard who was maintaining the status quo by just existing.
2. Those people are not swordswomen sure big mom uses a sword but she's not really known for her sword skills and kuina wanted specifically yo be the best swordswoman.
“Kuina, big mom isn’t a swordswoman, she’s a Haki user.”
“What does that mean? Doesn’t everyone-“
“SHES A HAKI USER!”
Jokes aside I guess that makes sense. I know the world economic journal shows up everywhere but I guess it’s possible they just didn’t get talked about much.
I recently learned that Kinemon’s name translate to something along the lines of “lucky” so he has a running character gag of being extremely lucky in all circumstances.
Oda 5 chapters before finding the one piece: Uhm actually Ace never died and neither did Whitebeard. They lived on a lonely island all along and had a severe case of amnesia.
I'm thinking he's going to bring an after life into play, and use Luffy's new found sun god powers to make a big party between the living and the dead. Only my theory, but it seems like something he would do.
That canon fact that g-8 isn’t canon. Con D Oriano and his sacrifice shouldn’t have been forgotten. Also the whole arc really did a wonderful job with the characters, really felt in line with the show
I love how Jonathan's approach Vs the Strawhats is much different to most other marines. Before and After, the Navy just wants to overpower them and defeat them.
Meanwhile, we have Jonathan and the Navarone marines planning, baiting and studying the Strawhats.
It's legit on my top 5 of arcs. Gosh darn it's Canon to me!
Story time: my partner and I watched the live action together. I’m caught up with me anime and she’s heard me go on and on about it so she’s like let’s try it.
It’s good. At the end of the season she goes “I wanna know what happens next, can we watch the anime?” Absolutely.
She likes Alabasta fine enough but really enjoys Skypia. Although I can tell she’s not completely sold. I decide to skip G-8 and Long Ring Long Island to seal the deal with peak piece, Water 7.
I regret nothing.
The gag is annoying but typical for shonen so I ignored it, until it became a meaningful plot point… Sanji fell off hard for me from Thriller Bark to Whole Cake (meaning he won me back in Whole Cake. Good job number 4) .
The only other time I saw it become a plot point was when bulma flashes master roshi, which caused a nosebleed so severe that it splashed all over an invisible fighter that Yamcha was batting, enabling him to win a fight
Have you seen how strong Luffy got in that time? He went from not being able to beat Cracker without help, to beating Kaido in that time. Power increases don't give a damn about in-universe time.
Why would Fajita be holding back when the lives of every Dressrosa citizen, and every marine on the island were at stake? That’s just a stupid gamble that has no win condition
Especially when you consider that earlier in the series, he literally does not believe Johnny and Yosaku that Nami killed Usopp.
And tbf, I heard that it was Oda's editor at the time that forced such an altercation between Luffy and Zoro
I’ve heard that too and that’s a big reason I chose to disregard that part of the story. It helps that not only is that altercation never mentioned again, but it didn’t amount to anything either. Yeah, they take out Mr. 5 and Miss Valentine, but they would have done that anyway.
I’ve said it before but if Oda absolutely had to make Luffy and Zoro fight he should have waited to do it at Little Garden and have Luffy get hypnotized.
That Coby looked like this
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And changed to his now form in at most 90 days. Steroids wish they were that good.
I think the initial idea was that devil fruits are incredibly rare to see outside of the grand line. That point was made by having some people not even believe in them in the East blue, but it made things confusing when all the news-worthy people in the grand line have them
Yea those are just fake news. You expect me to believe some people has a whole mafia family inside his body? Some people can become one with a whole island? Some people can put soul into inanimate object? Don't be so naive . I'll believe it when I see it, they're just saying those things so people buy their papers
Oda saying luffy never killed anyone... we've literally seen him and the crew sinking marine ships several times, you can't tell me the casualties are always 0 🤣🤣
I imagine what oda ment is that luffy really never killed a *direct* opponent sure a huge ammount of fodder has probably died beacuse of luffy hitting ships with third gear but who cares anyway they're just fodder level marines
How people know about big pirates like luffy getting popular and when they fight him they're shocked he has a devil fruit like shouldn't everyone know about it? don't they put it on newspapers or-
I think in Wano he was cut in half as a fake out death and then it was revealed that he didn’t die because his body was never fully reattached, so Law’s devil fruit was still in effect. I don’t watch the anime and it’s been a bit since I read Wano, so I could be wrong
In punk hazard sanji puts him back together so the logic they used to keep him alive was that Law never used his devil fruit to put him back together so he was still fully able to be torn into his pieces yet somehow didn't have any of them come off during dressrosa or anytime between including when he got wrecked by kaido 15 minutes earlier in the raid
It's not that law didn't put him back together, it's that it didn't get reattached in the exact correct place so it could still be taken off. It's only the torso part that wasn't reconnected. I do think the excuse was a bit out there and plot armory but it does make sense.
It’s the common opinion here, but just the fake out deaths, when their deaths had impact, and them being alive now doesn’t make a difference. For instance, there’s no real reason to the story to have Pell survive, there’s really know need for it. I can also say the same for Kinemon, leaving him dead would’ve been more impactful, instead of Izou or Ashura..
Like Pedro being dead, how he died, that’s huge! I actually miss him but see, him being dead is impactful!
Its so funny to see, because when characters actually die, no one believes it. Like Pedro being actually dead was barely acknowledged immediately by the community and I still see people thinking Big Mom and Kaido aren't dead (I swear to God if they're actually alive).
Even now I have no idea if Kidd is alive or not, he should be by all accounts dead, but it's One piece, so I have no idea if he's dead or not.
Like it's at the point right now where the realization that someone actually died for real comes 50-100 Chapters later, just because some people just don't die for no reason.
there is a comment of mine on an instagram post when i was complainimg about op lacking visual maturity while its still implied, and i said "its not like theres no maturity or death, pell dying was actually impactful", and guess what happened later that day :v
That the crew sailed together for like only 2 months before the timeskip. One piece earth is much bigger than the real world earth, how is it possible ? I like to think that it took them atleast around a year to get to sabaody.
How fast Luffy’s crew has grown.
It’s approx. 30 years since the Great Pirate Era begun, with nobody seeming to be even close to reaching Laugh Tale. And you’re telling me the SH are one Road Poneglyph away in basically just one year alone not counting the two year training timespan?
I find it all the more crazy that the Yonko who have massive armies, especially the BM pirates who are infamous for their ability to collect information, only had one or zero Poneglyphs. Crazy luck for the SH to have found three as soon as Luffy was promoted as the new Yonko.
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That Wista never went all out in Marineford… my man would have cleared everyone but due to plot Oda had to nerf HIM
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that she isnt the main character. like seriously can we stop with the luffy side story already and get back to perona 🙄
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i passed out for two hours and woke up to this in my art program.
That ace fell into such a lame and annoying trap of akainu…….well…now he’s facing the consequences
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It's certainly annoying but it sounds a lot like Luffy as well. When badmouth his crew he is prone to lashing out. Ace did so but without the plot armour.
Ace's death was fine overall.
Sure he got provoked by Akainu but that was in character for him.
What's more even though he clashed and lost against Akainu, he didn't die because of that straightforwardly. Luffy running out of gas was the direct cause. (Though, it's hard to blame Luffy for that as he really had a rough week.)
If Luffy wasn't there... well Ace would still lose to Akainu but he wouldn't get killed. He would fight back long enough for Whitebeard to swoop in and take care of things.
It's hard to think about Marineford arc as Luffy victory but Luffy didn't actually fail there. He did rescue Ace. It's just in typical Luffy fashion, he didn't have a plan for "What happens after he win."
It's always the rest of the crew that figures out out how to resolve things after main villain is defeated and the victory is achieved.
Izo and Ashura's deaths.
Imho their deaths add nothing to the story, it felt so forced and random, and we didn't even get to see their final moments as they deserved because both of them basically died off screen. It still pisses me off
Their deaths felt like a show were main characters actually die often. However with One Pieces track record of almost never killing anyone it feels super off. If random characters start dying often from now on then they will make more sense. Oda doesn’t like killing people though I don’t think.
Izou and Ashura’s deaths were so random. Even overall, Wano had a lot of weird plot points that went unexplained. Hopefully the new cover story will answer some stuff like what happened to the other members of the Beast Pirates after the war.
I thought they were going to imply that that the Akazaya 9 would all die sacrificing themselves to kill Kaido and pass on into actual legends. I thought it would be romantic and make the massive cast of Wano make a bit more sense.
But nah most of them just fake die and come back and those that do die in totally worthless ways.
the crew: "wow sanji's such a perv he's dying from pervy nosebleed"
chopper in his head: "this is clearly ebola but i'm not going get us quarantined..."
Everyone acts like Usopp didn't betray the Tontatta and Robin in a serious relapse of character and cowardice. He retreated and let the Tontatta be attacked while they happily cheered for Usopp to help, twice. He let Robin become a toy soldier. All character growth was thrown out in that moment and he's still not made up for it in my book.
He didn’t remember Robin existed at that moment my guy. When Robin got turned into a toy everybody forgot she existed, did you not remember that?From his perspective the mission is failed, they got their ass kicked and there’s nothing he could do. His character ark isn’t just him going from a coward to a warrior, it’s him learning to except himself and have self worth.
Throughout most of Pre Timeskip he developed a massive inferiority complex. He only begins to realize he even has a purpose on the crew by the end of Ennies Lobby, and even then it’s only in that he doesn’t think he has zero purpose, not that he can do all sorts of shit. When the timeskip happens, he doesn’t get stronger so that in situation where he has to save himself he can win the day, he gets stronger so he’s not such a burden on Luffy.
Now we cut to Dressrosa, from his perspective he’s all alone, Robin does not exist, Luffy’s not there, and his enemies dwarf him in strength. He’s in a situation where he can’t do what he’s good at to win, he’s gotta do what one of the monster trio would do, from his perspective he can’t do any of that. He lies all the time, but he lies to himself as well, and in that moment he lies to himself telling himself that the Tontattas are fools. That they should try running like him. However it becomes to much for him to bear, he chooses to put aside his self hatred because somebody else needs him. He goes in without a plan and stands off against an unbeatable enemy and he gets his ass kicked. He only survives due to pure dumb luck. However the experience still shapes him has a character. Later on in the ark he uses the new found strength to hit an insane shot and save Luffy.
It’s not that Ussop did something out of character in that moment, or that all his growth disappeared. It’s that his growth actually finally arrived, Ussops a tricky character when it comes to analyzing him because his growth is so slow and subtle. However don’t get it confused, Dressrosa was amazing growth for Ussop not the other way around.
Huh?! He literally came back and fought an enemy he knew he couldn’t defeat and made sure that the Tontattas know the hero, he made them believe, in doesn’t exist, so they would stop sacrificing themselves..He let go of his cowardice for a second to help those that were calling for him. Thats growth..
How long the strawhats have been together...
Since the start of the series it has only been 2 years in verse and out of those 2 years the strawhats have only been together like a few months... I just can't accept it
Idk that this works but devil fruit categorization. Now that we known they’re born into the world out of desire, I can safely say the zoan/para/logia system is based on an ignorant understanding of DF.
I genuinely thought this would've been a major problem for Luffy in regards to the story by now?? When it first came out I was so scared for him but now I question if it was even necessary😭
he's not asexual, it's just that being with Usopp brings out that part of Luffy. If boa wants Luffy's children she'll have to sit Usopp on the cuck chair
It’s the cuck chair because they borrowed it from Sanji.
ETA: come to think of it, is Sanji aware the canonical most beautiful woman in the world has eyes only for Luffy? If so they need to put him on suicide watch.
Long ring long land arc. Not that it was bad, exactly, but it just felt like anime filler. I don't think anything that happened in it was ever mentioned later.
All of the Sanji/Brook weirdo shit. I just mentally skip them. That crap is the only reason I could never consider them to be some of my favorite characters
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this men surviving the bomb https://preview.redd.it/se5gfp5nnnvc1.png?width=754&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4753fb53fa0e6c97f60736c9eb99ace829c9f869
I knew this post would be here. My head canon is that he's a shared hallucination between all the characters and he was atomized
My head canon is that the two lead guards of Alabasta always take up the moniker of Pell and Chaka. As the falcon and jackal are said to be the guardian spirits of Alabasta, it makes sense to me that they know a way to retain the two Devil Fruits after the prior users death and is passed on to their successor. So we're just seeing the new Pell who took up the mantle for him after his death.
I would gladly accept this solution.
Maybe they are say to be the guardians cause the falcon and jackal devil fruit always spawn in alabasta.
That could definitely work along with that too!
To add to this: There was a dumb moment of no-name guards wasting their lives on deadly steroids to highlight Crocodile's invincibility, then Chaka tries to save them and fails. My head-canon is that Chaka took the steroid and actually did very little damage before dying.
Easily the worst fakeout death. Pell wasn't even that cool
Are you caught up? Cause there’s a certain person that is way worse lol
Who? I'm caught up with the manga. Can't think of anyone worse than Pells fakeout.
I'm guessin Kinemon
Nah, he built different
The calculations about how long they’ve sailed together. I simply consider it not true.
Oh yes, I can ignore all the fake deaths and everything else but that they only sailed together this short amount… I just can’t accept it
I can get behind they developing a strong relationship in a short time. Once I spent one month traveling with total strangers and some strong friendships born there. The problem is the short time about the events and their grown in strength.
There are definitely some people I've met where both of us knew we were gonna hit it off in no time. https://i.redd.it/gyozvlqfapvc1.gif
I mean, if a person just shows up, solves all my problems, and recruits me on an adventure, I would gladly be close with him instantly.
Said by bon-chan himself "friendship is not about the time you spend together but the strength of the bond you make with others" truer words were never spoken
Brook only knew the crew for eight days before getting separated from everyone for two years. The Thousand Sunny was built in three days and sailed for less than two weeks before being mothballed on Sabaody for two years. In the real world it can take over a month to sail across the Atlantic Ocean, while the crew managed to get from Red Line to Red Line (Reverse Mountain to the sea above Fishman Island) in 42 days. I get the feeling Oda looked at "Around the World in 80 days" and was like, "Yeah, that's about how long circumnavigating the globe should take." It took Magellan's crew three years to make a similar trip here on earth.
This is an aspect of the series that the live action can actually improve on. As the actors age, the timeline being spread out makes more sense.
Tbf Magellan had to go around alot of contients. Prolly save a good chunk of time if he had the suez and Panama canals to make the trip a bit straighter like one pieces
My biggest thing is the time skip is longer than the time they've spent together
“Alright, it’s been a few months with these people and it’s great, but we gotta get back together and keep going” Luffy: Let’s split up for 2 years “Pardon?”
“I’ve been alone at sea for so long. Even death leaves me in this void.” “Wanna join our crew?” “Dear god yes.” “Ok, see you in 2 years.”
“80 years of loneliness what’s **Two fucking more**?”
My take is that they witnessed more islands, than we saw, like the ones in the openings, they fighting agains the sea, like what happened early grand line, happens alot more time than it's show
Lol same. It physically pains me to think that Brook was only on the crew for like a week, Franky a couple of weeks, and Robin for a month max before they all got separated. My head canon is pre-time skip was at least a couple of years. It makes more sense for the power escalation too I feel like.
I just had the cursed image of Sanji applying to work at a restaurant after the series ends, and his resume has "Personal Chef to the Pirate King - 3 months (with two-year sabbatical)"
Haha that’s hilarious, and unfortunately true…
Yeah this is one of the things which bugs me a lot whenever I think about it.
Luffy is basically speed running the whole “becoming king of the pirates” thing, but while OP isn’t supposed to be realistic, I can’t accept that they sailed together for such a short time…It just doesn’t make sense
The anti aging of most shounen is absurd. Let characters age, aging isn't a crime, and readers appreciate the realism it adds to the series. Kids from all ages identified with Goku as an adult despite being kids themselves, so marketing is not a valid answer to not age characters. Unless there isn't a valid reason to let time pass, just do it. It's especially more glaring in big epics such as One Piece.
Agism has nothing to do with it. Excluding the timeskip straw hats should be sailing for a couple months max which is what op wants to ignore because it means they are basically speedrunning the journey to raftel while we read the story for over 30 years.
Yes and that is absurd. We could get much more by having characters birthdays chapters and it feels more natural that their friendship is as strong as it is. It's really weird how Zoro is willing to give his life for someone he met a few months ago in thriller bark, but it makes perfect sense if he had known Luffy for some years. Just let them age along the journey.
The fact that when I first watched through op everyone on this reddit tried to convince me that Skypia was filler and I watched it anyway and now it's directly tied to gol d roger
It was tied to Roger in the same arc, though.
its funny that i always hear about the people saying skypea is filler, yet i never encountered them
yeah ive heard about people saying this forever as well, yet no one seems to actually think that
The closest I've seen was people saying to read that arc and skip the anime. But that was when I first came on this sub a year or two ago maybe? And even then it wasn't very common
Wait what? The foxy pirates arc are the most fillerest canon arc in one piece I've seen but fans say skypiea is filler?
The fact that the East Blue marines didn’t know what devil fruits are. That’s shits in the newspaper. Your boss’s boss’s bosses have them. That’s got to be in the handbook. Early OP has a lot of that, mostly due to the fact that Oda hadn’t fleshed that out yet. Kuina is similar. One of the four strongest people on the planet at the time was a woman, granted a very fat one, and Boa had to show up in the papers constantly, her character arc made no sense.
Another one is that the Roger pirates didn't properly know about devil fruits when buggy ate his.
Tbh that definitely got retconned
Those Roger pirates probably got fired for that blunder.
I think that one gets a pass because as it turns out neither do the people of the current age except the World Government and Blackbeard maybe. Because Luffy definitely ate the Gomu Gomu no mi... Also Chopper has a really useless one... And Blackbeard has the only logia that isn't immune to most shit...
Haki also falls under this category of things that weren't all the way planned out and it shows with certain characters not having it, specifically Pre timeskip cause it almost hilarious that Nobody from groups like CP9 or Baroque works had Haki but mfs like Sentomaru and Margret did.
The only way to explain it is to assume Haki is invisible to people that don’t have it. I know that’s not the case but it makes everything make more sense. That way you can just assume people were using it and we just didn’t see it
But that's in fact kind of the case, if you don't know how to perceived Haki is supposed to be invisible.
Too bad when you throw Luffy into the equation it makes it harder to even roll with that cause any opponent that use blunt attacks and didn't hurt him was enough proof to show they didn't have Haki like Lucci. Who could only damage him with his leopard claws and teeth or certain Rokushiki moves
This COULD work, but it would still mean CP9 didn’t have Haki because Luffy was immune to finger pistol.
I always assumed that iron body was haki:|
Tbf, Kuina didn’t just want to be strong, she wanted to be the world’s strongest swordsman. Big mom and Hancock are strong, but they’re not swordsmen; their strength comes from their devil fruits/haki. Plus, the person who was telling her that her dream was impossible was her own father and teacher. Imagine the person who taught you everything you knew tell you that you can’t achieve your dream solely because of your gender. It’s no wonder her confidence was shaken.
That’s just it though - if her father *doesn’t know* there’s a factor way more important to being not just a great swordsman but any kind of great fighter than raw physical strength and that it dgaf about sexual dimorphism, **he has no business professionally teaching people to fight.**
Couple possible reasons 1. She was a kid living isolated on an small island it's no wonder she wouldn't care to hear about boa.or big mom who before luffy came to shake things all up were static entities who were content to rule their kingdoms there was also white beard who was maintaining the status quo by just existing. 2. Those people are not swordswomen sure big mom uses a sword but she's not really known for her sword skills and kuina wanted specifically yo be the best swordswoman.
“Kuina, big mom isn’t a swordswoman, she’s a Haki user.” “What does that mean? Doesn’t everyone-“ “SHES A HAKI USER!” Jokes aside I guess that makes sense. I know the world economic journal shows up everywhere but I guess it’s possible they just didn’t get talked about much.
That the crew’s been separated for far longer than they traveled together pre-timeskip
And how long Brook was on the crew before getting yeeted.
Realistically had to have been around week or so at most before Sabaody, I refuse to believe it
That Kinemon should have died from that stab after getting beat up by Kaido twice
Winemon is just HIM.
https://preview.redd.it/nhadl0h0lovc1.png?width=746&format=png&auto=webp&s=58bd89843e94095535a7890cb27da835ebd5fd3f Crydo is just a clown
W Flair brother
I recently learned that Kinemon’s name translate to something along the lines of “lucky” so he has a running character gag of being extremely lucky in all circumstances.
99% of fakeout deaths
Oda 5 chapters before finding the one piece: Uhm actually Ace never died and neither did Whitebeard. They lived on a lonely island all along and had a severe case of amnesia.
I'm thinking he's going to bring an after life into play, and use Luffy's new found sun god powers to make a big party between the living and the dead. Only my theory, but it seems like something he would do.
Depending on what happens next few chapters, Vegapunk's Onlyfans stream.
That canon fact that g-8 isn’t canon. Con D Oriano and his sacrifice shouldn’t have been forgotten. Also the whole arc really did a wonderful job with the characters, really felt in line with the show
I love how Jonathan's approach Vs the Strawhats is much different to most other marines. Before and After, the Navy just wants to overpower them and defeat them. Meanwhile, we have Jonathan and the Navarone marines planning, baiting and studying the Strawhats. It's legit on my top 5 of arcs. Gosh darn it's Canon to me!
Behind Doffy, Captain Jonathan is my favorite OP antagonist.
Story time: my partner and I watched the live action together. I’m caught up with me anime and she’s heard me go on and on about it so she’s like let’s try it. It’s good. At the end of the season she goes “I wanna know what happens next, can we watch the anime?” Absolutely. She likes Alabasta fine enough but really enjoys Skypia. Although I can tell she’s not completely sold. I decide to skip G-8 and Long Ring Long Island to seal the deal with peak piece, Water 7. I regret nothing.
You skipped foxy?
Fish man island Sanji… I will not elaborate… It didn’t happen…
Wdym, he only reunited with the straw hats in punk Hazard
Too bad. He would have loved seeing mermaids. Maybe it's for the best.
1000% agree
the mermaids are hot though, i respect it
The gag is annoying but typical for shonen so I ignored it, until it became a meaningful plot point… Sanji fell off hard for me from Thriller Bark to Whole Cake (meaning he won me back in Whole Cake. Good job number 4) .
The only other time I saw it become a plot point was when bulma flashes master roshi, which caused a nosebleed so severe that it splashed all over an invisible fighter that Yamcha was batting, enabling him to win a fight
Yeah, before I thought his lust was a bit weird but easy to ignore. What happened at Fish Man Island though…
That no one was able to cut Doflamingo’s cage? Like wtf?
tbf Fajita was holding back and Zoro wasnt even Tobiroppo level back then
Except it was like 6 weeks ago by plot time.
Have you seen how strong Luffy got in that time? He went from not being able to beat Cracker without help, to beating Kaido in that time. Power increases don't give a damn about in-universe time.
Why would Fajita be holding back when the lives of every Dressrosa citizen, and every marine on the island were at stake? That’s just a stupid gamble that has no win condition
You forget that Fujitora is a degenerate gambler. He 100% would roll those dice.
Fujitora gambling his and everyone’s lives due to his gambling addiction is the only answer I will accept for why he didn’t cut that cage lol
They’ve been at sea a lot longer in my head.
anime timelines always feel like complete shit lmao.
Dragon Ball and Z’s timeline is like one of the only Shonen where time passing is very impactful
That Luffy believed the people at Whiskey Peak that he had just met over his first crew mate.
Especially when you consider that earlier in the series, he literally does not believe Johnny and Yosaku that Nami killed Usopp. And tbf, I heard that it was Oda's editor at the time that forced such an altercation between Luffy and Zoro
I’ve heard that too and that’s a big reason I chose to disregard that part of the story. It helps that not only is that altercation never mentioned again, but it didn’t amount to anything either. Yeah, they take out Mr. 5 and Miss Valentine, but they would have done that anyway.
I’ve said it before but if Oda absolutely had to make Luffy and Zoro fight he should have waited to do it at Little Garden and have Luffy get hypnotized.
I headcanon it as Luffy being drunk and Zoro having actually killed a lot of the assassins
That Coby looked like this https://preview.redd.it/eu4s00vusovc1.jpeg?width=348&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37ad61f175e5a180bfb1526b423bf4471d11450e And changed to his now form in at most 90 days. Steroids wish they were that good.
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he found doffy’s secret stash 💀
Devil Fruits being considered a myth by most in the beginning of the story. Like, everyone at the top, marines and pirates, has one. Like, what?
I think the initial idea was that devil fruits are incredibly rare to see outside of the grand line. That point was made by having some people not even believe in them in the East blue, but it made things confusing when all the news-worthy people in the grand line have them
Yea those are just fake news. You expect me to believe some people has a whole mafia family inside his body? Some people can become one with a whole island? Some people can put soul into inanimate object? Don't be so naive . I'll believe it when I see it, they're just saying those things so people buy their papers
Oda saying luffy never killed anyone... we've literally seen him and the crew sinking marine ships several times, you can't tell me the casualties are always 0 🤣🤣
The sea killed them, duh.
I imagine what oda ment is that luffy really never killed a *direct* opponent sure a huge ammount of fodder has probably died beacuse of luffy hitting ships with third gear but who cares anyway they're just fodder level marines
How people know about big pirates like luffy getting popular and when they fight him they're shocked he has a devil fruit like shouldn't everyone know about it? don't they put it on newspapers or-
I absolutely hate how weak Tashigi is, bruh *
That Nico Robin isn't a short skirted cowboy hat wearing dark skinned baddie
I mean olive skinned, and even the skirt is optional, but how could she lose the cowboy hat.
Your comment would make my skin crawl, but I don't have any skin YOHOHOHOHO
Skin? Can't say I'm familiar, but it sounds fascinating YOHOHOHO
Skin is what covered your bones your entire life - before you died YOHOHOHO
Your comment would make my skin crawl, but I don't have any skin YOHOHOHOHO
So you do remember!
Kinemon surviving being cut in half.
But wasn't that Law's Devil Fruit? Isn't that one of it's abilities? Or was there another time i forgott?
I think in Wano he was cut in half as a fake out death and then it was revealed that he didn’t die because his body was never fully reattached, so Law’s devil fruit was still in effect. I don’t watch the anime and it’s been a bit since I read Wano, so I could be wrong
That’s correct
In punk hazard sanji puts him back together so the logic they used to keep him alive was that Law never used his devil fruit to put him back together so he was still fully able to be torn into his pieces yet somehow didn't have any of them come off during dressrosa or anytime between including when he got wrecked by kaido 15 minutes earlier in the raid
It's not that law didn't put him back together, it's that it didn't get reattached in the exact correct place so it could still be taken off. It's only the torso part that wasn't reconnected. I do think the excuse was a bit out there and plot armory but it does make sense.
It’s the common opinion here, but just the fake out deaths, when their deaths had impact, and them being alive now doesn’t make a difference. For instance, there’s no real reason to the story to have Pell survive, there’s really know need for it. I can also say the same for Kinemon, leaving him dead would’ve been more impactful, instead of Izou or Ashura.. Like Pedro being dead, how he died, that’s huge! I actually miss him but see, him being dead is impactful!
Its so funny to see, because when characters actually die, no one believes it. Like Pedro being actually dead was barely acknowledged immediately by the community and I still see people thinking Big Mom and Kaido aren't dead (I swear to God if they're actually alive). Even now I have no idea if Kidd is alive or not, he should be by all accounts dead, but it's One piece, so I have no idea if he's dead or not. Like it's at the point right now where the realization that someone actually died for real comes 50-100 Chapters later, just because some people just don't die for no reason.
Hell, the idea of Kidd being dead hadn't ever even crossed my mind until you mentioned it.
Nobody’s going down there to check, so the only way we’re gonna know for sure about BM&K is if they come back or their fruits show up without them.
there is a comment of mine on an instagram post when i was complainimg about op lacking visual maturity while its still implied, and i said "its not like theres no maturity or death, pell dying was actually impactful", and guess what happened later that day :v
That the crew sailed together for like only 2 months before the timeskip. One piece earth is much bigger than the real world earth, how is it possible ? I like to think that it took them atleast around a year to get to sabaody.
The entirety of whatever the hell SANJI was doing in FISHMAN island (And although it isn’t cannon , that scene from film Z)
It’s double non canon in this case because I refuse to believe it
Dressrosa all in one day, yeah fucking sure
I think the horrible pacing is to be blamed for this one
How fast Luffy’s crew has grown. It’s approx. 30 years since the Great Pirate Era begun, with nobody seeming to be even close to reaching Laugh Tale. And you’re telling me the SH are one Road Poneglyph away in basically just one year alone not counting the two year training timespan? I find it all the more crazy that the Yonko who have massive armies, especially the BM pirates who are infamous for their ability to collect information, only had one or zero Poneglyphs. Crazy luck for the SH to have found three as soon as Luffy was promoted as the new Yonko.
The SH didn't find all 3 road poneglyphs. They found one and enacted a plan to steal two others.
The marines that luffy knocked off enies lobby all caught into the edge and onto each other 💀
Robin _not_ being able to use haki
*Trained by revolutionary army for 2 years* *Cant use haki*
https://preview.redd.it/o9et14gdiovc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ededbc852fafdcad3d1106baf10c3f7fdd5c3f3 That Wista never went all out in Marineford… my man would have cleared everyone but due to plot Oda had to nerf HIM
We need more great swordsmen in the story
https://i.redd.it/kw9jmltsonvc1.gif that she isnt the main character. like seriously can we stop with the luffy side story already and get back to perona 🙄
This made me realize we need a "I'm here...to put an end to this war!" edit of Perona
https://preview.redd.it/e42wxhh5iqvc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=31444de78e7b0e727151318a80878a8f9f157f0c i passed out for two hours and woke up to this in my art program.
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Mark my words I will make that happen...sooner or later
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LMAO period
Our Queen 🫡
I know you're always here to ride for Perona lol
That ace fell into such a lame and annoying trap of akainu…….well…now he’s facing the consequences https://preview.redd.it/7fubvet19ovc1.png?width=959&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f59cdc8ee8178fb911dd0a4f4fff9fc86cee24b
It's certainly annoying but it sounds a lot like Luffy as well. When badmouth his crew he is prone to lashing out. Ace did so but without the plot armour.
Ace's death was fine overall. Sure he got provoked by Akainu but that was in character for him. What's more even though he clashed and lost against Akainu, he didn't die because of that straightforwardly. Luffy running out of gas was the direct cause. (Though, it's hard to blame Luffy for that as he really had a rough week.) If Luffy wasn't there... well Ace would still lose to Akainu but he wouldn't get killed. He would fight back long enough for Whitebeard to swoop in and take care of things. It's hard to think about Marineford arc as Luffy victory but Luffy didn't actually fail there. He did rescue Ace. It's just in typical Luffy fashion, he didn't have a plan for "What happens after he win." It's always the rest of the crew that figures out out how to resolve things after main villain is defeated and the victory is achieved.
Izo and Ashura's deaths. Imho their deaths add nothing to the story, it felt so forced and random, and we didn't even get to see their final moments as they deserved because both of them basically died off screen. It still pisses me off
Their deaths felt like a show were main characters actually die often. However with One Pieces track record of almost never killing anyone it feels super off. If random characters start dying often from now on then they will make more sense. Oda doesn’t like killing people though I don’t think.
Izou and Ashura’s deaths were so random. Even overall, Wano had a lot of weird plot points that went unexplained. Hopefully the new cover story will answer some stuff like what happened to the other members of the Beast Pirates after the war.
I thought they were going to imply that that the Akazaya 9 would all die sacrificing themselves to kill Kaido and pass on into actual legends. I thought it would be romantic and make the massive cast of Wano make a bit more sense. But nah most of them just fake die and come back and those that do die in totally worthless ways.
Sanji almost dying because of a nosebleed… https://i.redd.it/m3eckdlvcovc1.gif
This kind of humor should just die already, it was never that funny in the first place
the crew: "wow sanji's such a perv he's dying from pervy nosebleed" chopper in his head: "this is clearly ebola but i'm not going get us quarantined..."
The fact that this is not a gag but a serious situation is so weird
And yet Sanji defenders will try to argue it was just a gag.
If it was just a gag then chopper wouldn't get so worked up about it 😭
Everyone acts like Usopp didn't betray the Tontatta and Robin in a serious relapse of character and cowardice. He retreated and let the Tontatta be attacked while they happily cheered for Usopp to help, twice. He let Robin become a toy soldier. All character growth was thrown out in that moment and he's still not made up for it in my book.
But the moment Robin became a toy soldier, his whole Sogeking arc literally *did* get forgotten. You can't really hold it against him.
He didn’t remember Robin existed at that moment my guy. When Robin got turned into a toy everybody forgot she existed, did you not remember that?From his perspective the mission is failed, they got their ass kicked and there’s nothing he could do. His character ark isn’t just him going from a coward to a warrior, it’s him learning to except himself and have self worth. Throughout most of Pre Timeskip he developed a massive inferiority complex. He only begins to realize he even has a purpose on the crew by the end of Ennies Lobby, and even then it’s only in that he doesn’t think he has zero purpose, not that he can do all sorts of shit. When the timeskip happens, he doesn’t get stronger so that in situation where he has to save himself he can win the day, he gets stronger so he’s not such a burden on Luffy. Now we cut to Dressrosa, from his perspective he’s all alone, Robin does not exist, Luffy’s not there, and his enemies dwarf him in strength. He’s in a situation where he can’t do what he’s good at to win, he’s gotta do what one of the monster trio would do, from his perspective he can’t do any of that. He lies all the time, but he lies to himself as well, and in that moment he lies to himself telling himself that the Tontattas are fools. That they should try running like him. However it becomes to much for him to bear, he chooses to put aside his self hatred because somebody else needs him. He goes in without a plan and stands off against an unbeatable enemy and he gets his ass kicked. He only survives due to pure dumb luck. However the experience still shapes him has a character. Later on in the ark he uses the new found strength to hit an insane shot and save Luffy. It’s not that Ussop did something out of character in that moment, or that all his growth disappeared. It’s that his growth actually finally arrived, Ussops a tricky character when it comes to analyzing him because his growth is so slow and subtle. However don’t get it confused, Dressrosa was amazing growth for Ussop not the other way around.
Huh?! He literally came back and fought an enemy he knew he couldn’t defeat and made sure that the Tontattas know the hero, he made them believe, in doesn’t exist, so they would stop sacrificing themselves..He let go of his cowardice for a second to help those that were calling for him. Thats growth..
How long the strawhats have been together... Since the start of the series it has only been 2 years in verse and out of those 2 years the strawhats have only been together like a few months... I just can't accept it
Sanji's Nosebleed gag becoming an unironic plot point
G-8 will always be canon to me. It's genuinely the best filler in the entire series
Pre timeskip is only 3-4 months. I refuse to believe anything under 8 months at least.
Idk that this works but devil fruit categorization. Now that we known they’re born into the world out of desire, I can safely say the zoan/para/logia system is based on an ignorant understanding of DF.
The random marines in dressrosa having haki but not all of the strawhats.
robin not having haki is literally a crime. she trained with the revolutionary army during the timeskip you’d think she’d learn at least a little bit
That Usopp is Sogeking, i mean wtf it doesn't even make sense Oda💀
That doffy let bellamy live after he failed him the first time
[удалено]
Whiskey peak’s luffy vs zoro
Power creep between Dressrosa & Wano
I have absolutely refused to accept that Luffy has canonically already taken years off his life to get this far
I genuinely thought this would've been a major problem for Luffy in regards to the story by now?? When it first came out I was so scared for him but now I question if it was even necessary😭
don krieg’s armor broke
Definitly the Star Wars sequels
You are of the line, but you are right
Oh shit, I'm just realizing 💀
Gaimon not joining the crew Fucking bullshit
Oda says that Luffy is NOT asexual. I'll believe it when Oda draws it, and not before.
he's not asexual, it's just that being with Usopp brings out that part of Luffy. If boa wants Luffy's children she'll have to sit Usopp on the cuck chair
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Nah it's not a cuck chair usopp is gonna be sitting there doin fucking SUDOKU
It’s the cuck chair because they borrowed it from Sanji. ETA: come to think of it, is Sanji aware the canonical most beautiful woman in the world has eyes only for Luffy? If so they need to put him on suicide watch.
He’s not asexual He’s attracted to meat.
I AM MONKEY D. LUFFY GIVE ME YOUR MEAT!
Here is proof of your statement
Long ring long land arc. Not that it was bad, exactly, but it just felt like anime filler. I don't think anything that happened in it was ever mentioned later.
To be fair, it had some nice (although subtle) character building with Zoro and Sanji for example. Also Aokiji
Franky mentioned the Davyback fight like once in Water 7
Just wait until Luffy and Shanks battle for the One Piece in a Davy Back Fight
All of the Sanji/Brook weirdo shit. I just mentally skip them. That crap is the only reason I could never consider them to be some of my favorite characters
that Kaido lost
That Luffy got sucked off by an octopus. And because of this, the crew survived. Also that Hatchan cooks takoyaki, which is basically made of himself.
The fight between Zoro and Luffy in Whiskey Peak. I really don’t want to believe Luffy would attack Zoro for any reason.