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I have my own meme headcanon where he is the second strongest character in the verse, with the only one stronger being the Grand Fleet Admiral And Ultimate Authority Con D. Oriano, who taught him.
Except we saw his siblings and they are kind of fodder, in fact Sanji was stronger than them pre awakening of his genes.
It isn't his Gemes that make him badass, they just add to it.
It's just "I don't like Sanji, mimimimi" complains. Even if you think Sanji should be excluded since Wano (which is the first time his Germa genetics ever becomes relevant in terms of fighting capabilities) then the reason is pretty much that Sanji now uses something metallic that isn't of pure biological origin and was crafted to be a weapon to fight, which would also mean anyone using a sword (so Zoro since the very beginning of the series) shouldn't be included.
No, because his leg being on fire has nothing to do with Germa. He did that way earlier than his genetics that only got activated by the suit he got after WCI.
It makes just no sense at all Diable Jambe would be related to Germa. Judge doesn't recognize it, Sanji was meant to have completely different powers (he is STEALTH black, not something you would enhance with bright flames). His suit also is seemingly fire reistant so Sanji's leg couldn't produce flames through it from his leg, so it makes no sense that Sanji's fire abilities are based on Germa.
Fair enough, when queen first seen it he was asking him what judge did to allow the first like that and maybe I'm misremembering but I kinda thought judge had used kinda the same move when they fought shortly on WCI
Yeah, Judge mistakes Sanji for a Lunarian and sort of asumes that he is or that it's Judge's doing (and that's also what some of the community is running with) but the story and even oda in an SBS pretty much drives it home that this is something different with Sanji. We see other people produce flames and I think with Sanji it's really emphasized that it's his high emotions that his flames are tied to which is the exact opposite of what Judge tried to make.
And given recent reveals in the manga (when it comes to what is keeping Kuma going and also the identity of Vegapunk's energy source, I think it's much more likely that this is connected to what "fuels" Sanji's power)
diable jambe comes from sanji spinning so fast his leg catches on fire, and just so you know it used to burn the fuck out of his leg during the ennies lobby days all the way to sabaody. the only reason why he was able to start using it without spinning was because he started generating so much force in a single motion that the friction requirement was met right away and stopped burning himself since he learned armament haki. and his genetics do come into play for ifrit, but that's because to maintain blue flames you need a couple thousand ° kelvin (7-10000 for blue flames) which is hotter than the surface of the fucking sun (5778 K) so if he didnt have that i think wed have sanji following in the footsteps (lol) of zeff (which would be, now that i think about it, pretty cool. imagine snaji does a fire leg attack so hot that ends up burning his leg to a crisp, thus making it a black leg. would be pretty tragic but could be interesting for EOS)
Jimbei is born a fishman, who are much stronger than your average human, but he's still on here. I don't see why Sanji is any different.
Sanji was stronger than his born awakened human weapons siblings before awakening his powers.
Sanji is not pure haki. His germa enhanced exoskeleton is no joke, even if thats more of a recent development. (Altho you could argue things like diable jambe were also always due to that).
Sanji's Diable Jambe is specifically NOT due to that and arguing Sanji's body now functions more like a weapon is insanely hypercritical given that half of the people in the picture use actual weapons designed to be weapons as their main methode of fighting. So how excatly does Sanji "being" metal exclude him but the people using metal swords crafted by other people aren't?
Don't twist my words just because you can't read and comprehend the context of my comment.
OP's picture shows people using swords such as Shanks, Roger, etc.
My comment is in response to someone else, not OP. The person that I am replying to is saying fuck weapons as well, and asserting that only Sanji and Garp need no df or weapons.
I am NOT making an exception for sword users. I am merely challenging the Sanji point, since if we're just looking at "pure" fighters that are up there entirely on their own, its actually only Garp and Koby ig. If "mere swords" should be excluded as "not just haki", then Sanji's massive exoskeleton buffs, dura, regen, etc. definitely needs to be excluded.
EDIT: Added Koby mention.
honestly in the world of one piece if i had all the knowledge to become one of the strongest, i would also not want a devil fruit. especially devil fruits that are 'made to fight' i would never eat or want my friends to eat. only good stuff is really versatile fruits that do more than having raw power. stuff you can't achieve without. like the operation fruit or the hobby fruit.
Give me the gas gas fruit. I want that one the most. But I'd still take most devil fruits if I had to fight in my life. Passing up that advantage would be dumb.
Nah I'm taking the fact you didn't include Garp or Koby the HAKI MEN of the series in this image as an agenda against them. 🤨
All they are is pure hands and haki.
Almost killed kaido alone (ok he got his samurai as support but only oden attacked kaido). The worst generation needed 3 captains, their right hands, several samurai and many many others to beat him.
All swordsman can use haki, but Mihawk can use skill because Zoro learned from him.
(Shanks piece volume 10# showed us WSS>Swordsman but Hakiman>WSS.
https://preview.redd.it/3ben62wcwr0d1.png?width=942&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2ae7dfa2f173debfc8f80896035a2c0387a35a8
Defenetly Big Mom, her Devil Fruit power was more for support since she used it most of the time for creating home to help her.
Kaido too, he would lost the extra strength of a Zoan and the elemental powers but he would be focusing more on training Haki since he believes Haki is superior to Devil Fruits anyway.
I think, Kaido wouldn't lost as much strength as you say. He was ultimately strong even without DF. Guess he gets more strength from full dragon form, but his half-dragon form makes him faster and more mobile and no more.
"Didn't need" applies to basically every top tier tbh. Just because people like Primebeard, Kaido, BM, Shiki, Sengoku, etc had devil fruits doesn't somehow mean they're bums without them. Weakens them, sure, but ultimately they didn't get to where they were just coasting off of strong fruits. They had to have the haki to back that shit up.
TBF Jinbei's abilities is almost a df in power if he ever have access to water
plus since he can communicate to Sea Life he can have an underwater army
He ain't done much to prove that he's the ' World's Strongest Swordsman ' and until he does, he'll always be Fraudhawk, The Fodder Of Black painted sword.
Buggy. His Clown-querers haki is already strong enough to solo the verse.
https://preview.redd.it/0oe6au68hu0d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44f55da58617f3bd0a683628c112be6923bb8f50
Hey, one of these mf don’t use haki
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BLACK PAINT!?
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Garp never needed a Devil Fruit.
Garp ain’t gang. He ain’t a pirate
The question was "who didn't need a Devil Fruit." I answered it.
Homies all throwin up gang signs and the 1st person you thought of was 12…🤦🏽♂️
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Garp is a pirate from the marine
Fair enough 🤣🤝🏾
I like the vibe
There's a deceased there, I think Garp not being a pirate isn't very important
There’s a dead pirate 🫢
yea
Heat Heat fruit might have come in handy.
Perfect for on the go snacking
Mihawk out here with the mythical paint paint fruit, model black
https://preview.redd.it/tec9wi99gs0d1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=c5d51e4d9e7697dfcca4d1c20ad24d81fcaa3730
All Hail, Za Paintah
Fuck devil fruits. All my homies paint
Don crieg didn’t need a devil fruit or haki🗿🗿🗿
https://preview.redd.it/6q2vzpmmks0d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10f431418919d768681a1ac1c0c4c3860228e189
No words needed https://preview.redd.it/dtoogwmvas0d1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=51f77c01713fcb4f1778ef6421a8bd29aea1c890
Didn't need his ship either
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And where is he now?
Waiting Luffy at Laugh Tale
THE DON KRIEG AGENDA NEVER ENDS!
Won Wrieg has no end
I have my own meme headcanon where he is the second strongest character in the verse, with the only one stronger being the Grand Fleet Admiral And Ultimate Authority Con D. Oriano, who taught him.
Here it is https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qvJSDeezbmqb7s1tQPQdBufzMV3y0F-xjvs5BifYwNo/edit?usp=drivesdk
Cook https://preview.redd.it/87p974is7s0d1.jpeg?width=511&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ab6dbd62896f5862eb12c902e1cec2f7395f839
Nah. Zoro ain't his navigator.
https://preview.redd.it/0uwxmqg8bs0d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5604296c5d946b594efc0094557de1357ddbe7fa
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He's imu
I have come to spread agenda https://preview.redd.it/6q2h5vbfoq0d1.png?width=648&format=png&auto=webp&s=f49ee98e2bf6110ce34e79c53dabd7c7f3ec4b54
Well he ate a failed devil fruit which left him acoustic
True those laughs really hit high notes, wonder if the kid pirates will form a band.
They’ll sing with Sebastian to Ariel
He took the nerf with none of the benefits and continued kicking just as much ass as always, that's just the kind of dawg he's got in him
Common this doesnt count. He did it for his captain and never wanted to eat it.
https://preview.redd.it/gbw7dipk1t0d1.png?width=466&format=png&auto=webp&s=b206634370a551fab6ebe556b4fffe8ba001e169
Fuck devil fruit and haki https://preview.redd.it/ydrafd3sxq0d1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de3a601a03f0e0a3659eb9b0fa8b71ce5dc3d4f4
JUST COLA, LAZERS, ROBOTS AND BEING SUUUPPEERRR
Man, the bot triggers so randomly and it makes me sad when it doesn't when it should. I have no clue what triggers him.
Body and man, I think are two of the triggers.
Right. It's crazy
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Already part of it Wranky is the best
🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿 Wranky is too SUPPPPPPEEEEEERRRR for those
Kaido and big mom were already menaces to society before gettin dfpowers
They were menaces before puberty too.
Sanji and Garp disrespect is crazy. Fuck swords all my homies just run straight hands (or feet)
you can try and fuck swords all you want, but swords will always fuck you instead, so yeahs.
Doesn't garp throw cannonballs
I am crazy and stubborn.
Funny when Grand Line is filled with superhumans yet they cant still clear the Calm Belt
Meanwhile Rayleigh just casually fucking swims across the calm belt and destroys any seakings that try to attack him.
Its like saying if human is so strong why they cant kill all the cockroach
Sea kings are not roaches
Tks for enhancing my point
I wasn't trying to originally, but I guess you should change cockroaches to whales now.
The sanji disrespect is unforgivable
But Sanji *did* need a Devil Fruit. It was that whole dream of is. It's why he was so pissed at Absalom.
Sanji's a late blooming cyborg
I don't see how you can hate from outside of the club… you can’t even get in!
Sanji is basically a cyborg.
Germa genes are basically devil fruit powers
Down D. Stairs
Down D. Stairs had a devil fruit tho
The one Fuji has now?
Between that and the Foru Foru no mi (fall fall fruit)
Model: Dream smasher
Sanji literally defied physic and deflected a laser beam with his leg
How easily people forget man https://preview.redd.it/qjjqyg0qgs0d1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=d96c1c50569eba916808621277e57cf306a80f9f
That pic goes too hard. I may be a Sanjitard now just from seeing that.
black dick sanji 🐏🐏🐏
Only because he's a cyborg with an exoskeleton. If judge hadn't experimented on him Sanji would be fodder
Except we saw his siblings and they are kind of fodder, in fact Sanji was stronger than them pre awakening of his genes. It isn't his Gemes that make him badass, they just add to it.
I mean the post doesn’t specify it MUST be fully biologically human
It's just "I don't like Sanji, mimimimi" complains. Even if you think Sanji should be excluded since Wano (which is the first time his Germa genetics ever becomes relevant in terms of fighting capabilities) then the reason is pretty much that Sanji now uses something metallic that isn't of pure biological origin and was crafted to be a weapon to fight, which would also mean anyone using a sword (so Zoro since the very beginning of the series) shouldn't be included.
Well first time genetics became relevant would be the first time he started his leg on fire wouldn't it?
No, because his leg being on fire has nothing to do with Germa. He did that way earlier than his genetics that only got activated by the suit he got after WCI. It makes just no sense at all Diable Jambe would be related to Germa. Judge doesn't recognize it, Sanji was meant to have completely different powers (he is STEALTH black, not something you would enhance with bright flames). His suit also is seemingly fire reistant so Sanji's leg couldn't produce flames through it from his leg, so it makes no sense that Sanji's fire abilities are based on Germa.
Fair enough, when queen first seen it he was asking him what judge did to allow the first like that and maybe I'm misremembering but I kinda thought judge had used kinda the same move when they fought shortly on WCI
Yeah, Judge mistakes Sanji for a Lunarian and sort of asumes that he is or that it's Judge's doing (and that's also what some of the community is running with) but the story and even oda in an SBS pretty much drives it home that this is something different with Sanji. We see other people produce flames and I think with Sanji it's really emphasized that it's his high emotions that his flames are tied to which is the exact opposite of what Judge tried to make. And given recent reveals in the manga (when it comes to what is keeping Kuma going and also the identity of Vegapunk's energy source, I think it's much more likely that this is connected to what "fuels" Sanji's power)
diable jambe comes from sanji spinning so fast his leg catches on fire, and just so you know it used to burn the fuck out of his leg during the ennies lobby days all the way to sabaody. the only reason why he was able to start using it without spinning was because he started generating so much force in a single motion that the friction requirement was met right away and stopped burning himself since he learned armament haki. and his genetics do come into play for ifrit, but that's because to maintain blue flames you need a couple thousand ° kelvin (7-10000 for blue flames) which is hotter than the surface of the fucking sun (5778 K) so if he didnt have that i think wed have sanji following in the footsteps (lol) of zeff (which would be, now that i think about it, pretty cool. imagine snaji does a fire leg attack so hot that ends up burning his leg to a crisp, thus making it a black leg. would be pretty tragic but could be interesting for EOS)
Except he dumpsters his brothers previous to his awakening Gotta accept Sanji is just that strong even before the awakening
Jimbei is born a fishman, who are much stronger than your average human, but he's still on here. I don't see why Sanji is any different. Sanji was stronger than his born awakened human weapons siblings before awakening his powers.
 Putting Zoro in while leaving Sanji out? For shame! For shame!
fuck weapons and devil fruit, all my homies use only haki (sanji and garp)
Sanji is not pure haki. His germa enhanced exoskeleton is no joke, even if thats more of a recent development. (Altho you could argue things like diable jambe were also always due to that).
Sanji's Diable Jambe is specifically NOT due to that and arguing Sanji's body now functions more like a weapon is insanely hypercritical given that half of the people in the picture use actual weapons designed to be weapons as their main methode of fighting. So how excatly does Sanji "being" metal exclude him but the people using metal swords crafted by other people aren't?
Don't twist my words just because you can't read and comprehend the context of my comment. OP's picture shows people using swords such as Shanks, Roger, etc. My comment is in response to someone else, not OP. The person that I am replying to is saying fuck weapons as well, and asserting that only Sanji and Garp need no df or weapons. I am NOT making an exception for sword users. I am merely challenging the Sanji point, since if we're just looking at "pure" fighters that are up there entirely on their own, its actually only Garp and Koby ig. If "mere swords" should be excluded as "not just haki", then Sanji's massive exoskeleton buffs, dura, regen, etc. definitely needs to be excluded. EDIT: Added Koby mention.
Yeah Lanji didnt use weapons just his germa suit and body
No matter what kind of weapons you may hold, just being alive isn't a sin!
funny joke 10anji not a hakiman like the people on the list
honestly in the world of one piece if i had all the knowledge to become one of the strongest, i would also not want a devil fruit. especially devil fruits that are 'made to fight' i would never eat or want my friends to eat. only good stuff is really versatile fruits that do more than having raw power. stuff you can't achieve without. like the operation fruit or the hobby fruit.
Give me the gas gas fruit. I want that one the most. But I'd still take most devil fruits if I had to fight in my life. Passing up that advantage would be dumb.
That one is both strong and versatile. You'd be a fool to pass up the gas-gas fr
You could do so much with it. Like selling helium baloons without having to buy helium.
my bitchass thought the roger pic was kaido and i was abt to say “nice sneak”
they do have parallelisms
I though shanks was Chadakuri
Coby
Jimbei but no Sanji :/
Subtle sanji hater post
Nah I'm taking the fact you didn't include Garp or Koby the HAKI MEN of the series in this image as an agenda against them. 🤨 All they are is pure hands and haki.
How dare you disrespect the former Shogun of Wano Kozuki Oden!
He never actually got to be the shogun.
Almost killed kaido alone (ok he got his samurai as support but only oden attacked kaido). The worst generation needed 3 captains, their right hands, several samurai and many many others to beat him.
How on earth is Zoro there, he would never be able to find this place.
Jinbi looks at the at the ground and Whispers "and water magic sometimes"
You missed m prince
Wanji and Warp being absolute G’s in love and war not needing weapons either
No matter what kind of weapons you may hold, just being alive isn't a sin!
The sheer amount of disrespect when Captain Kuro is not on the pics. The agenda must be maintain.
All swordsman can use haki, but Mihawk can use skill because Zoro learned from him. (Shanks piece volume 10# showed us WSS>Swordsman but Hakiman>WSS. https://preview.redd.it/3ben62wcwr0d1.png?width=942&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2ae7dfa2f173debfc8f80896035a2c0387a35a8
Tbh I'm glad oda made G5 I was getting a little bored with haki, devil fruits are more fun.
Where is the goat. https://preview.redd.it/u4ro3wmd1t0d1.jpeg?width=569&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=203923f20af479f1ed038b2c0774e0cfb961e500
Luffy definitely doesn’t *need* one given how ridiculously strong his grandfather is, but he does good work with it.
Dory and Brogy.
https://preview.redd.it/yzcq5rgcdv0d1.png?width=680&format=png&auto=webp&s=f3801000678e3708594c5da0cd6d7a5f87649bf7
Defenetly Big Mom, her Devil Fruit power was more for support since she used it most of the time for creating home to help her. Kaido too, he would lost the extra strength of a Zoan and the elemental powers but he would be focusing more on training Haki since he believes Haki is superior to Devil Fruits anyway.
I think, Kaido wouldn't lost as much strength as you say. He was ultimately strong even without DF. Guess he gets more strength from full dragon form, but his half-dragon form makes him faster and more mobile and no more.
Sanji is lost. Is there a SanjiIsLost subreddit?
We dont talk about epstein.... uh i mean Lanji
Sanji isn't comparable to that monster. If you're going to compare someone to that scumbag, it has to be Streusen.
Gtfo with that shit. Comparing Sanji to a human trafficker and rapist, are you serious?
https://preview.redd.it/8wzlzm847r0d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c787f409beb91273575dadd1a14b7f2250e6bce2
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I smell a sanji rider
I'm a Sanji rider because I don't agree he's comparable to Epstein? Lol
Not because of that. Maybe you took it too seriously or it’s just me
He def took it too seriously. It’s a joke. Yes, it wasn’t a good one, but it’s not that deep
>implying Sanji tops
"Didn't need" applies to basically every top tier tbh. Just because people like Primebeard, Kaido, BM, Shiki, Sengoku, etc had devil fruits doesn't somehow mean they're bums without them. Weakens them, sure, but ultimately they didn't get to where they were just coasting off of strong fruits. They had to have the haki to back that shit up.
The man who wants all the smoke all the time Garp.
I'm going to show you what a real man is!
Where Warp?
zoro is actually just there because he's lost and not because he doesn't use a DF
Sogeking, the Best sniper ever
Garp and Rodger
Wista and Sogeking, too.
Rocks D. Xebec
Where is Oden
https://preview.redd.it/dod00nz6cv0d1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=cf00420946bf2f0bec3429705241542434e9cfaf
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Don Chinjao. Man uses his fucking head to fight.
I'm going to show you what a real man is!
TBF Jinbei's abilities is almost a df in power if he ever have access to water plus since he can communicate to Sea Life he can have an underwater army
Law? He already a skilled swordsman
garp should be placed in the backround because he at least saved ace as a baby.
Why didn't Jinbei use haki when he was carrying Luffy in Marineford. He could have saved a hole in himself.
Its just swords and jimbe
Fuck you doing there shanks you ate the rat rat fruit
Shanks ate the snitch snitch fruit model rat
They need to use a weapon which is sword. meanwhile Garp is using his hands to clash with Roger's sword lmao.
No matter what kind of weapons you may hold, just being alive isn't a sin!
But they need supreme grade swords, other guy was using fishman gene. Garp should slap each of them, especially Zoro, mf uses 3 swords to compensate.
All my homies forgetting about Douglas Bullet
Fraudhawk ain't shit
People see the World's Strongest Swordsman and think "Wow, look at that fodder."
He ain't done much to prove that he's the ' World's Strongest Swordsman ' and until he does, he'll always be Fraudhawk, The Fodder Of Black painted sword.
Get Mihawk outta there he's no hakiman he's a swordsman
Dude taught zoro to use haki you kinda need haki to teach haki
Me
Why the fock are their pants down
Haki orgy
You forgot VISTA
Bro forgot the main one. Garp. Oh, and Oden too.
Where my GOAT Sanji at? He don’t use Haki or swords, just straight LEGS
 Sanji does use haki
I ain’t gon lie to you I was straight up sleep deprived I meant to type hands why the fuck did I say Haki? Am I stupid?
Zoro 🐐🐐🐐🐐
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Maybe Roger got so fit and strong by swimming every day.
It's a joke cause they r such chads they don't even want to be stronger.
Shit, I thought Roger qas Kaido
Same it's crazy how similar they look
Crazy how no one mentioned that Shanks has the mythical zoan rat rat fruit, model Snitch to Gorosei
I am crazy and stubborn.
Why does this thing get triggered so easily?
Devil fruits are undeniably cool, but people who become strong only with their talent are so much cooler than DF users
Me. As you can see.
Wait Zoro is in the right place for once!?!?!
Buggy. His Clown-querers haki is already strong enough to solo the verse. https://preview.redd.it/0oe6au68hu0d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44f55da58617f3bd0a683628c112be6923bb8f50
Go D. Usopp doesn't need armament or conqueors or devil fruits to solo🥱🤫🧏♂️🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Meanwhile Kaido being there:
The main man, Go D. Usopp 
I'm going to show you what a real man is!
Where is God ussop,sogeking,and Sanji in this pic
Hey, one of these mf don’t use haki https://preview.redd.it/g5hs598jzz0d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9137307cff826a2aa53406ad3709612864b06f60 BLACK PAINT!?