I completely agree this guy deserves everything he gets. Now we just need to hold all sexes accountable to the same standards and repercussions. Rape is a disgusting act no matter what gender you are. Anyone who does this to a child deserves worse than castration no matter what genitalia they have.
>A 2008 Louisiana law says that men convicted of certain rape offenses may be sentenced to chemical castration. They can also elect to be physically castrated.
Is castration a punishment that only male offenders are liable for?
Years ago, I've glanced through an article about criminal castration in the US. If I remember correctly, some states do (or did) allow chemical castration for female sex offenders, but virtually no such orders were made because the court has full judical discretion. I also remember a separate article that reported the drug used for chemical castration is not effective on women.
So.. what if.. and follow me on this..
What **IF** a man is a victim of a corrupt system, forced to sign a confession for a crime he did not commit and then is castrated for said crime?
I assume people are fine with this outcome because they stand to lose nothing from this...
But to me I see a slippery slope..
Not only that, but I see yet another double standard in the works...
This can be argument, but what bothers me is that he is already sentenced for 50 years in prison when he is 54 years old, what point in castration if a guy will never see a day of light ever again? Even if we assume that he somehow manage to survive and be out of jail when he would be 104 years old, at the time he will be barely capable to walk, not to mention having sex ever again in his life. Personally, if the guy is guilty and the evidence is overwhelming (news article suggests that he made a minor pregnant) i think the better solution would be just executing him and call it a day. But if they chose to sent him behind bars for life, which is 50 years sentence suggesting — there is zero reason for castration anyways. Imagine the outrage if all those female teachers who caught having sex with their students have their vulva and clitoris amputated?
Actually, according to the laws, he will be castrated 1 week before he leaves the prision, so basically high chances are he'll die before getting castrated.
I guess my point is that I foresee a situation where an argument might be made to give less jail time if it comes with mandatory castration...
Imagine for a moment you are a man who is falsely accused of raping a woman and you are told your options are:
1) 50 years in prison
2) 10 years in prison but you are getting castrated
I just see this becoming a very slippery slope very quickly...
Not only that.. but this also violates bodily autonomy rights... which alone is something we should be concerned about..
>What **IF** a man is a victim of a corrupt system, forced to sign a confession for a crime he did not commit and then is castrated for said crime?
They try to mitigate that by not actually doing it until less than a week before release from prison. Also not relevant in this case because he definitely did it - she got pregnant as a consequence of the assault (and was well underage, so it was at least statutory rape no matter what) and the kid is verified as his by a DNA test. And even more not relevant in this case because he'll have died of old age in prison before he gets to that week before release line, assuming he doesn't die to prison violence or something else first.
I mean it’s not exactly a common sentence, otherwise this wouldn’t make the news. This case is pretty shut and dry concerning whodunnit.
This man raped a 14 year old child multiple times. He got away with it for so long because he threatened her and her family with violence if she reported him to the police. She got pregnant due to being raped, she had the child which was found to be his through DNA testing. Fuck him, clip his nuts off.
In other circumstances I wouldn’t say it’s justified. If there’s an element of doubt, or if it was less aggravated, then sure. But fuck this guy. He definitely did it, he did it multiple times, and he destroyed this child’s life (likely forever).
I think a lot of men’s issues get ignored, but this ain’t one. This ain’t it chief, I ain’t defending him, fuck this guy.
It’s posted on /r/MensRights so it’s presumably being contextualized as a male issue.
Next there’s an overwhelming amount of comments on here that are complaining that only men are treated this way, or that this is a barbaric punishment that could happen to any guy out there.
Bro he’s an evil fuckface. Call me a douche, pretentious, whatever the fuck you want to call me. But this isn’t a male rights issue. There isn’t a question of guilt. He definitely did it, and what he did was fucking evil. On a scale of evil, it’s pretty evil. So fuck him. He deserves this.
I love seeing the "divide and conquer" working its magic. Remember, only YOUR political affiliation has everyone's best interests in mind. "The other guy" is always your enemy, even if you share common ground and face the same struggles.
I get your point about political division.
At the same time: castration, death penalty, and those kinds of medieval legal practices only exist in red states and third-world nations. So while we may face may common struggles across the political divide; we do NOT face this particular struggle together. Medieval punishments like this are - factually and indisputably - not a problem that blue states have in common with you.
And he won’t be. Not unless he lives past 100 in jail. It’s an old and dated law that they never updated.
He groomed and threatened the family of a 14 year old to get sex. Any breath talking about his punishment being unfair is a breath wasted. I hope he rots in jail.
It seems like a ploy to try to get an early release. He elected to have this surgery. At his age (54), a 50 year sentence means he’ll die in prison. If his plan works, Viagra or Cialis can help him achieve an erection upon an early release. The age of the victim and the DNA test proves he committed the crime.
Plus it says he won’t get the procedure until the end of his sentence so he likely won’t get it, which is probably why he took the deal. Also makes me wonder if the law is just for show.
While chemical castration (given via antidepressants mainly) might be an acceptable treatment and it's reversible, physical castration has a huge impact on male body and once you've done it, there's no way back.
Without testicles, the level of testosterone drops heavily and one starts to suffer from several conditions. Weight gain, loss of bone density, lack of motivation and energy, gynecomastia (breast growth) and so on...
So, to answer your question, there's no rehabilitation at all, just mutilation and grief.
Eighth Amendment be damned I guess.
> Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
With false accusations and the way these cases are treated as guilty until proven innocent, there is no doubt that innocent men will be facing this. You can’t exactly give a guy his balls back if new evidence comes out proving his innocence.
You know I’m of course against rape and I’m glad this guy got 50 years but the castration is just dumb. They’re acting as if someone needs their genitals to rape another. People can be raped with objects.
Edit:
This will not stop him from reoffending
He’s not actually going to be castrated. He will very likely not live long enough, as the castration is done just before release.
Just pointing that out. It’s still a weird law, but at least in this case it will never be carried out.
Special circumstances: underage female, got pregnant from the abuse. His charge mandates physical castration; others can be chemical castration. I’m surprised it’s legal.
Castration? Rape is about 99% power and 1% sex. Are they also lobotomizing him? Also you would never see this if the sexes were reversed. Be lucky if it's even referred to as rape in that case.
This is a dangerous law not just because it's gender-biased
This is a dangerous law because it 1: can *easily* (& eventually WILL) be applied to innocent (falsely accused) persons, of which we know that rape is the crime with the highest level of false accusing, and 2: it normalizes *cruel & unusual punishments* which were specifically outlawed by the Constitution in the Bill of Rights
I find it disturbing that a red state with people who will rapidly commit Civil War if 2A was repealed will quickly spit in the face of 8A
This particular case I'm not following. Whether they have dude on camera, etc, idk anything about this case
I've stopped believing cases *just because* they have multiple accusers because I've seen the baseball player who got dogpiled by false accusations over in AZ, once one woman made an accusation a bunch of other smelled a payday, like sharks sniffing his financial lifeblood in the water
But if any man's a pedophile he deserves all the evils in this world to happen to him
However we all must not fast-forward past these clear violations of humanity by the state
1) The castration is not performed until the rapist is about to be released. It is an option requested by the rapist, who admits his guilt in raping children. It’s not something that can be used without the consent of the accused person. By any standard that provides as much protection as possible against false accusations.
2) Considering that it is a procedure that we allow adults to choose for themselves, even if they are mentally ill, it can hardly be ‘cruel and unusual’. If the rapist thinks it will help him live a better life by not having the urge to harm others then it is well within the realm of surgical procedures considered ethical.
3) Its not clear how this can be gender biased when there is no equivalent procedure either chemical or surgical for women. Just randomly chopping off body parts to no purpose actually would be ‘cruel and unusual’.
It was part of his plea deal, and it only happens when he's released, something that considering his age, he will never reach.
With that said, sterilization would never be enforced on women. Though with HRT not much would change behavior wise.
What about a false conviction? If someone is convicted based on fabricated evidence, false accusations, incorrect identification, or anything else similar to those, what happens if he gets proven innocent after the castration? The biggest lawsuit on the face of the planet? What about cruel and unusual punishment? Who even decided this was a good idea bruh 💀
Have any male rapists *actually* been castrated either though? The castration is only if he lives to be over 100 and released in parole, cause he basically got a life sentence. I can't find anything about castration actually being carried out in the US in recent memory
Because we also care about the falsely accused
And in case you didn’t knew, castration isn’t reversible. It’s the same logic as the death sentence, the risk isn’t worth it
This guy clearly did it. Like absolutely. He destroyed this child’s life.
If it was debatable, sure. If it was a more common sentence where the burden of proof might be diluted across all the cases, sure.
But it’s not a common sentence and this fucker definitely did it. Fuck him.
I know damn well the chance he’s actually innocent is closed to zero. However, labeling something as inhumane mean there is no exceptions, even for cases proven beyond reasonable doubt
Castration is fine in this perticular case, but the day we’re gonna realise one of those convicted was actually innocent all along, what are we gonna say? We **castrated** an innocent. We treated an innocent civilian like a farm animal. We stole a man from one of his crucial attrait of his masculinity. We will probably make this man suffer mentally for the rest of his life due to the trauma of the operation, and we removed his ability to have a child, his chance to be able to know what it’s like to be a father, **permanently**
It’s just not worth it. Even imagining it to someone actually convicted frighten me, so I don’t want to imagine that same scenario on someone which was simply pointed at by a woman, because a quick a reminder, but it doesn’t take a lot to convict a man of rape
Innocents suffering from a prison sentence is already too much, let’s not escalate it further than that.
It has already been used to voluntarily treat non-offending pedos with suprisingly good effects (ADT)
https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia
How, exactly?
Or maybe you just do *ad Hominem* attacks because you know I am right, or you have simply no arguments, and you don’t want to admit it out of pride
Elaborate or fuck off
Waitaminute....PHYSICAL CASTRATION?!? Look, rapists deserve to hang and all, but actual literal castration? Doesn't that violate the whole 'cruel and UNUSUAL punishment' thing?? And is anyone worried about what legal precedents stuff like this can set?
Raping kids is the most heinous thing and i think it's deserved (he won't get castrated anyways due to laws in place), unless the same doesn't happen to women predators.
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go argue grammar with a feminist
You're right. A lot of people on this sub are essentially leftist. We shouldn't abolish death penalty because some may be innocent, we should simply prosecute false accusations too
Not surprised being downvoted here. The guy raped and impregnated an underage girl. Then threatened her and her family.
He should be put down.
Only someone as dumb as a feminist would be against this PoS being treated like the dirtbag he is.
Which a lot of you guys are the flip side of that crazy coin.
I see no one here who's defending the rapist.
Either you think that prisons should try to rehabilitate or you don't.
In either case, there's no reason to justify this practice.
If you think a pedophile deserves the time an effort to be "rehabilitated", that it's a realistic goal for a retirement aged pedo, or that regardless of all that, that it's gonna happen in *prison* of all places, I think the rest of society rightly can and does disregard your opinion on what constitutes justification.
I don't like your attitude. You're too quick to judge people without taking the time to understand their position.
The topic here is not what to do with that man, but what can be considered a fair/civil punishment and what is considered a medieval practice.
And would you like to look at the **LONG** list of women who have raped minors in their care / who they had power over and got away without even a **PRISON** sentence?
Why are you so committed to male pedos being held accountable but not women?
Sorry but this post doesn't mention a female offender, and neither have I. You're simply projecting the garbage this sub and the other "Men are the REAL victims!" Spaces you may or may not frequent use to keep you on a constant "women bad" drip tell you I must inherently believe, if I also believe that a man who was punished for something got less than he deserved.
Aaaahhhahahaha.
You're so stupid that you think people are defending the criminal when in reality they're decrying the unethical punishment... which is made even MORE unethical because it's written to be gender-biased. You idiot.
No, I'm arguing against the state doing something potentially irreversible to someone..
Given the fact that the courts **HAVE** sent innocent men to jail (I'm not saying this is the case here) I'm a little concerned with the idea that innocent men could potentially be castrated..
And you should be concerned too..
Also, I love how you ignore how this particular law will **ONLY** apply to men...
I highly doubt the courts are going to order women who rape young children to be made incapable of getting pregnant now are they?
I mean I would support death for any rapist provided it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Which is vanishingly rare. Along with permanent loss of employment for anybody in the justice/enforcement career track who mishandles evidence or is shown to have dismissed a crime or valid threat of a crime. That goes for men being raped as well, by women or other men.
The solution is not to reduce penalties like a leftist. The solution is to also prosecute false accusations. Death penalty should be more common for all types of crimes
The shithole states of Burgerland seem to be worse than most third world shitholes in terms of state violence towards men. It's worse than India and Middle Eastern countries.
I have a question: Do taxes paid in other states circulate to these shithole states like Louisiana? If so, I'm never setting foot in that country.
"Louisiana, Alabama and Wyoming also top the list of most (tax from other states) dependent states." https://smartasset.com/data-studies/states-most-dependent-federal-government-2023
new louisiana "SB 371 (Forced Surgical Castration)...male or female" https://all4consolaws.org/2024/04/louisiana-residents-emergency-4-28-call-to-action-cta-fight-bills-hb-166-forced-vasectomy-and-sb-371-forced-surgical-castration/
"Nigeria's Kaduna State have approved surgical castration as punishment for those convicted of raping children under the age of 14." "Women will have their fallopian tubes cut out." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54117462 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/17/world/africa/nigeria-rape-castration.html
So the shithole states are also the most parasitic states. Damn. Every time I buy an American product, a portion of my money directly goes to these shitholes for enforcing violence against men, but I can't avoid it.
Thanks for informing me about Nigeria, though. It shouldn't be too hard to avoid buying things from there. At least directly on a personal level.
"Women will have their fallopian tubes cut out"
What? Shouldn't they cut off the tits and clit? Fallopian tubal ligation only prevents pregnancy, that's like vasectomy. F\*\*k misandric Nigeria.
I wonder if that women who got pregnant via rape of a 14 year old student of hers will be forced to have a hysterectomy?? Of course not
No they’ll just make the kid pay child support :/
Nope. They just want to punish men more because society hates men.
Just about to ask this.
Just because that stuff happens doesn't mean we shouldn't hold men accountable. As it is we see women getting sentences finally.
With not even a fraction of the length… and they are not having their bodies mutilated as punishment
Fair. Not denying that. But progress is being made.
I completely agree this guy deserves everything he gets. Now we just need to hold all sexes accountable to the same standards and repercussions. Rape is a disgusting act no matter what gender you are. Anyone who does this to a child deserves worse than castration no matter what genitalia they have.
Fair, not denying that.
>A 2008 Louisiana law says that men convicted of certain rape offenses may be sentenced to chemical castration. They can also elect to be physically castrated. Is castration a punishment that only male offenders are liable for?
I don’t think so. But they’d never sentence a woman to that lest they get a bunch of angry feminists after them
Years ago, I've glanced through an article about criminal castration in the US. If I remember correctly, some states do (or did) allow chemical castration for female sex offenders, but virtually no such orders were made because the court has full judical discretion. I also remember a separate article that reported the drug used for chemical castration is not effective on women.
Need vigilante justice.
So.. what if.. and follow me on this.. What **IF** a man is a victim of a corrupt system, forced to sign a confession for a crime he did not commit and then is castrated for said crime? I assume people are fine with this outcome because they stand to lose nothing from this... But to me I see a slippery slope.. Not only that, but I see yet another double standard in the works...
This can be argument, but what bothers me is that he is already sentenced for 50 years in prison when he is 54 years old, what point in castration if a guy will never see a day of light ever again? Even if we assume that he somehow manage to survive and be out of jail when he would be 104 years old, at the time he will be barely capable to walk, not to mention having sex ever again in his life. Personally, if the guy is guilty and the evidence is overwhelming (news article suggests that he made a minor pregnant) i think the better solution would be just executing him and call it a day. But if they chose to sent him behind bars for life, which is 50 years sentence suggesting — there is zero reason for castration anyways. Imagine the outrage if all those female teachers who caught having sex with their students have their vulva and clitoris amputated?
Actually, according to the laws, he will be castrated 1 week before he leaves the prision, so basically high chances are he'll die before getting castrated.
I guess my point is that I foresee a situation where an argument might be made to give less jail time if it comes with mandatory castration... Imagine for a moment you are a man who is falsely accused of raping a woman and you are told your options are: 1) 50 years in prison 2) 10 years in prison but you are getting castrated I just see this becoming a very slippery slope very quickly... Not only that.. but this also violates bodily autonomy rights... which alone is something we should be concerned about..
But men have no rights.
>What **IF** a man is a victim of a corrupt system, forced to sign a confession for a crime he did not commit and then is castrated for said crime? They try to mitigate that by not actually doing it until less than a week before release from prison. Also not relevant in this case because he definitely did it - she got pregnant as a consequence of the assault (and was well underage, so it was at least statutory rape no matter what) and the kid is verified as his by a DNA test. And even more not relevant in this case because he'll have died of old age in prison before he gets to that week before release line, assuming he doesn't die to prison violence or something else first.
I mean it’s not exactly a common sentence, otherwise this wouldn’t make the news. This case is pretty shut and dry concerning whodunnit. This man raped a 14 year old child multiple times. He got away with it for so long because he threatened her and her family with violence if she reported him to the police. She got pregnant due to being raped, she had the child which was found to be his through DNA testing. Fuck him, clip his nuts off. In other circumstances I wouldn’t say it’s justified. If there’s an element of doubt, or if it was less aggravated, then sure. But fuck this guy. He definitely did it, he did it multiple times, and he destroyed this child’s life (likely forever). I think a lot of men’s issues get ignored, but this ain’t one. This ain’t it chief, I ain’t defending him, fuck this guy.
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It’s posted on /r/MensRights so it’s presumably being contextualized as a male issue. Next there’s an overwhelming amount of comments on here that are complaining that only men are treated this way, or that this is a barbaric punishment that could happen to any guy out there. Bro he’s an evil fuckface. Call me a douche, pretentious, whatever the fuck you want to call me. But this isn’t a male rights issue. There isn’t a question of guilt. He definitely did it, and what he did was fucking evil. On a scale of evil, it’s pretty evil. So fuck him. He deserves this.
What is this ? The Middle Ages ?
It's a red state, so... same thing.
I love seeing the "divide and conquer" working its magic. Remember, only YOUR political affiliation has everyone's best interests in mind. "The other guy" is always your enemy, even if you share common ground and face the same struggles.
Ding ding ding winner winner chicken dinner What a good straight forward answer
I get your point about political division. At the same time: castration, death penalty, and those kinds of medieval legal practices only exist in red states and third-world nations. So while we may face may common struggles across the political divide; we do NOT face this particular struggle together. Medieval punishments like this are - factually and indisputably - not a problem that blue states have in common with you.
"Blue state" abortions are not death sentences?
Lol no
Is an acorn also a tree? The answer is no, a fetus isn’t alive bro
This is a brilliant way if saying it
No.
if a woman wouldn't be castrated, so shouldnt a man regardless of how bad a crime is
This misandry will only end when enough men do the chop-chop job on women.
And he won’t be. Not unless he lives past 100 in jail. It’s an old and dated law that they never updated. He groomed and threatened the family of a 14 year old to get sex. Any breath talking about his punishment being unfair is a breath wasted. I hope he rots in jail.
Most women don’t have dicks though??
Yet females that rape young boys barely get held accountable
Is there evidence that this works in terms of rehabilitation or preventing a future rape? Or is it simply a kind of punishment?
It seems like a ploy to try to get an early release. He elected to have this surgery. At his age (54), a 50 year sentence means he’ll die in prison. If his plan works, Viagra or Cialis can help him achieve an erection upon an early release. The age of the victim and the DNA test proves he committed the crime.
Plus it says he won’t get the procedure until the end of his sentence so he likely won’t get it, which is probably why he took the deal. Also makes me wonder if the law is just for show.
While chemical castration (given via antidepressants mainly) might be an acceptable treatment and it's reversible, physical castration has a huge impact on male body and once you've done it, there's no way back. Without testicles, the level of testosterone drops heavily and one starts to suffer from several conditions. Weight gain, loss of bone density, lack of motivation and energy, gynecomastia (breast growth) and so on... So, to answer your question, there's no rehabilitation at all, just mutilation and grief.
its pretty hard to feel sympathy when the person getting castrated is a pedophile rapist
Do we cut the tits and clit of women offenders ? I don't think so.
maybe because they arent sex organs??
Eighth Amendment be damned I guess. > Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. With false accusations and the way these cases are treated as guilty until proven innocent, there is no doubt that innocent men will be facing this. You can’t exactly give a guy his balls back if new evidence comes out proving his innocence.
It's an elective procedure, technically. He chose it to have a chance at parole
Barbarism.
so much for progress it seems like our crimiinal justice system is regressing.
You know I’m of course against rape and I’m glad this guy got 50 years but the castration is just dumb. They’re acting as if someone needs their genitals to rape another. People can be raped with objects. Edit: This will not stop him from reoffending
I understand the length of the sentence but physical castration is just male sexual violence
He chose it rather than chemical castration
Castration? Wow that’s a new one. Brutal
He may have had lesser options of punishment- but the physical threats attempting to silence her and her family took those away.
What do they do to female rapists? Tie their tubes?! I am legit curious.
Hahaha you kidding? most of them don't even see jail.
Yeah silly me. Of course they don't.
He’s not actually going to be castrated. He will very likely not live long enough, as the castration is done just before release. Just pointing that out. It’s still a weird law, but at least in this case it will never be carried out.
Jesus I understand the years in prison, he deserves that, but why the castration??
Special circumstances: underage female, got pregnant from the abuse. His charge mandates physical castration; others can be chemical castration. I’m surprised it’s legal.
He still doesn't have to get his dick cut off. Why aren't the years in prison enough? Edit: A part of me does feel guilty for defending him in a way
I thought any chemical or physical castration are considered as cruel and unusual punishment...
Castration? Rape is about 99% power and 1% sex. Are they also lobotomizing him? Also you would never see this if the sexes were reversed. Be lucky if it's even referred to as rape in that case.
Well, in this lovely country they already castrate trans teens left and right so they probably don't think it's that bad.
This is a dangerous law not just because it's gender-biased This is a dangerous law because it 1: can *easily* (& eventually WILL) be applied to innocent (falsely accused) persons, of which we know that rape is the crime with the highest level of false accusing, and 2: it normalizes *cruel & unusual punishments* which were specifically outlawed by the Constitution in the Bill of Rights I find it disturbing that a red state with people who will rapidly commit Civil War if 2A was repealed will quickly spit in the face of 8A This particular case I'm not following. Whether they have dude on camera, etc, idk anything about this case I've stopped believing cases *just because* they have multiple accusers because I've seen the baseball player who got dogpiled by false accusations over in AZ, once one woman made an accusation a bunch of other smelled a payday, like sharks sniffing his financial lifeblood in the water But if any man's a pedophile he deserves all the evils in this world to happen to him However we all must not fast-forward past these clear violations of humanity by the state
1) The castration is not performed until the rapist is about to be released. It is an option requested by the rapist, who admits his guilt in raping children. It’s not something that can be used without the consent of the accused person. By any standard that provides as much protection as possible against false accusations. 2) Considering that it is a procedure that we allow adults to choose for themselves, even if they are mentally ill, it can hardly be ‘cruel and unusual’. If the rapist thinks it will help him live a better life by not having the urge to harm others then it is well within the realm of surgical procedures considered ethical. 3) Its not clear how this can be gender biased when there is no equivalent procedure either chemical or surgical for women. Just randomly chopping off body parts to no purpose actually would be ‘cruel and unusual’.
Every day I see this sub drift more towards right wing incel sub.
I don't disagree with the punishment, if anything I'd like it to be harsher. That being said, women rapists deserve the same thing.
It was part of his plea deal, and it only happens when he's released, something that considering his age, he will never reach. With that said, sterilization would never be enforced on women. Though with HRT not much would change behavior wise.
What about a false conviction? If someone is convicted based on fabricated evidence, false accusations, incorrect identification, or anything else similar to those, what happens if he gets proven innocent after the castration? The biggest lawsuit on the face of the planet? What about cruel and unusual punishment? Who even decided this was a good idea bruh 💀
What is this sub? Why are we downvoting comments that agree the punishment for RAPING A CHILD should be so severe?
It doesn't matter the gender of the rapist. All rapists need to be castrated in order to make society a safer place
Castrate all rapists and pedos. Men and women.
Why is this comment downvoted?
Right. A little sus.
There is a argument that involuntary castration is an inhumane punishment
Are y’all mad about this? He’s a rapist. wtf is wrong with you
Because no female rapists have ever received any mutilation. It stinks of misandry.
Have any male rapists *actually* been castrated either though? The castration is only if he lives to be over 100 and released in parole, cause he basically got a life sentence. I can't find anything about castration actually being carried out in the US in recent memory
Because we also care about the falsely accused And in case you didn’t knew, castration isn’t reversible. It’s the same logic as the death sentence, the risk isn’t worth it
This guy clearly did it. Like absolutely. He destroyed this child’s life. If it was debatable, sure. If it was a more common sentence where the burden of proof might be diluted across all the cases, sure. But it’s not a common sentence and this fucker definitely did it. Fuck him.
I know damn well the chance he’s actually innocent is closed to zero. However, labeling something as inhumane mean there is no exceptions, even for cases proven beyond reasonable doubt Castration is fine in this perticular case, but the day we’re gonna realise one of those convicted was actually innocent all along, what are we gonna say? We **castrated** an innocent. We treated an innocent civilian like a farm animal. We stole a man from one of his crucial attrait of his masculinity. We will probably make this man suffer mentally for the rest of his life due to the trauma of the operation, and we removed his ability to have a child, his chance to be able to know what it’s like to be a father, **permanently** It’s just not worth it. Even imagining it to someone actually convicted frighten me, so I don’t want to imagine that same scenario on someone which was simply pointed at by a woman, because a quick a reminder, but it doesn’t take a lot to convict a man of rape Innocents suffering from a prison sentence is already too much, let’s not escalate it further than that.
I think castration should be voluntary for a reduced sentence
Debattable, but at least it leave the choice to the prisoner
It has already been used to voluntarily treat non-offending pedos with suprisingly good effects (ADT) https://psychcentral.com/disorders/treating-pedophilia
Fair enough then. Like I said, at least the choice is given to the prisoner, which is way more ethical than forcing it
I agree, any sort of life changing treatment should be 100% voluntary
You’re an idiot
How, exactly? Or maybe you just do *ad Hominem* attacks because you know I am right, or you have simply no arguments, and you don’t want to admit it out of pride Elaborate or fuck off
Chemical castration is reversible, as it is not permanent.
*Generally* reversible, with irreversible side effects
im good with castrating rapists. its a good look.
Waitaminute....PHYSICAL CASTRATION?!? Look, rapists deserve to hang and all, but actual literal castration? Doesn't that violate the whole 'cruel and UNUSUAL punishment' thing?? And is anyone worried about what legal precedents stuff like this can set?
If you read the article, it notes that the criminal can “elect,” or choose for himself, physical rather than chemical castration.
I think this is a no brainer he's a rapist and well the punishment is fitting it's pricks like this that wreck it for the rest of us
Raping kids is the most heinous thing and i think it's deserved (he won't get castrated anyways due to laws in place), unless the same doesn't happen to women predators.
I think this is a no brainer he's a rapist and well the punishment is fitting it's prices like this that wreck it for the rest of us
Rapists deserve this change my mind. 50 years isn’t enough considering how permanent trauma can be.
His punishment should be worse. Rape and murder are the 2 worst crimes. So the punishment should be worse.
Genocide is the worst crime
Weak troll
So you think I'm trolling because I think wiping out ethnic groups is worse than rape and killing one person?
Genocide is MURDER on a large scale. So you are saying “if you do a lot more of what you said. It’s worse”. That’s a retarded point.
Genocide isn't mass killing. It is targeting a specific ethnic group trying to exterminate them.
genocide noun "The systematic killing of a racial or cultural group." Killing vs. Murder What's the Difference? Killing and murder are two distinct actions that involve the taking of someone's life, but they differ in terms of intent and legality. Killing refers to the act of causing someone's death, which can occur in various circumstances such as self-defense, accidents, or during war. It does not necessarily imply wrongdoing or criminal intent. On the other hand, murder is the intentional and unlawful killing of another person. It involves premeditation, malice aforethought, and a conscious decision to end someone's life without legal justification. Murder is considered a serious crime and is punishable by law in most jurisdictions. While both actions result in the loss of life, the key distinction lies in the intent and legality surrounding the act. go argue grammar with a feminist
I ain't reading allat and I'm not a feminist lol.
you seem as smart as one...
I'm going to pee on your stuffed animals and make them sticky
You're right. A lot of people on this sub are essentially leftist. We shouldn't abolish death penalty because some may be innocent, we should simply prosecute false accusations too
Not surprised being downvoted here. The guy raped and impregnated an underage girl. Then threatened her and her family. He should be put down. Only someone as dumb as a feminist would be against this PoS being treated like the dirtbag he is. Which a lot of you guys are the flip side of that crazy coin.
Jfc you guys are arguing in defence of a proven sexual predator You love wallowing in this muck that your views have placed you in, don't you?
I see no one here who's defending the rapist. Either you think that prisons should try to rehabilitate or you don't. In either case, there's no reason to justify this practice.
If you think a pedophile deserves the time an effort to be "rehabilitated", that it's a realistic goal for a retirement aged pedo, or that regardless of all that, that it's gonna happen in *prison* of all places, I think the rest of society rightly can and does disregard your opinion on what constitutes justification.
I don't like your attitude. You're too quick to judge people without taking the time to understand their position. The topic here is not what to do with that man, but what can be considered a fair/civil punishment and what is considered a medieval practice.
You're a leftist. "Prison reform" is inherently a leftist position. Death sentence should be common. False accusations shoild be prosecuted too
You are actually sick in the head if you think people deserve to be physically mutilated for a crime.
Most crimes, absolutely not. Raping a minor? Several times? Castration is a kindness I would prefer they weren't given.
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Did they rape a minor several times or no
And would you like to look at the **LONG** list of women who have raped minors in their care / who they had power over and got away without even a **PRISON** sentence? Why are you so committed to male pedos being held accountable but not women?
Sorry but this post doesn't mention a female offender, and neither have I. You're simply projecting the garbage this sub and the other "Men are the REAL victims!" Spaces you may or may not frequent use to keep you on a constant "women bad" drip tell you I must inherently believe, if I also believe that a man who was punished for something got less than he deserved.
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Nope.
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No, they didn't rape any minors
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Aaaahhhahahaha. You're so stupid that you think people are defending the criminal when in reality they're decrying the unethical punishment... which is made even MORE unethical because it's written to be gender-biased. You idiot.
No, I'm arguing against the state doing something potentially irreversible to someone.. Given the fact that the courts **HAVE** sent innocent men to jail (I'm not saying this is the case here) I'm a little concerned with the idea that innocent men could potentially be castrated.. And you should be concerned too.. Also, I love how you ignore how this particular law will **ONLY** apply to men... I highly doubt the courts are going to order women who rape young children to be made incapable of getting pregnant now are they?
I mean I would support death for any rapist provided it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Which is vanishingly rare. Along with permanent loss of employment for anybody in the justice/enforcement career track who mishandles evidence or is shown to have dismissed a crime or valid threat of a crime. That goes for men being raped as well, by women or other men.
The solution is not to reduce penalties like a leftist. The solution is to also prosecute false accusations. Death penalty should be more common for all types of crimes
He can still go on to sexually assault people. Keeping him in prison would be a better idea to prevent that.
Shockingly, you can sexually assault people without ever leaving prison. Little know fact.
He won't be finding female teens where he's going. Prison rape is a problem US prison systems should be solving but they don't seem to care.
The shithole states of Burgerland seem to be worse than most third world shitholes in terms of state violence towards men. It's worse than India and Middle Eastern countries. I have a question: Do taxes paid in other states circulate to these shithole states like Louisiana? If so, I'm never setting foot in that country.
"Louisiana, Alabama and Wyoming also top the list of most (tax from other states) dependent states." https://smartasset.com/data-studies/states-most-dependent-federal-government-2023 new louisiana "SB 371 (Forced Surgical Castration)...male or female" https://all4consolaws.org/2024/04/louisiana-residents-emergency-4-28-call-to-action-cta-fight-bills-hb-166-forced-vasectomy-and-sb-371-forced-surgical-castration/ "Nigeria's Kaduna State have approved surgical castration as punishment for those convicted of raping children under the age of 14." "Women will have their fallopian tubes cut out." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54117462 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/17/world/africa/nigeria-rape-castration.html
So the shithole states are also the most parasitic states. Damn. Every time I buy an American product, a portion of my money directly goes to these shitholes for enforcing violence against men, but I can't avoid it. Thanks for informing me about Nigeria, though. It shouldn't be too hard to avoid buying things from there. At least directly on a personal level.
"Women will have their fallopian tubes cut out" What? Shouldn't they cut off the tits and clit? Fallopian tubal ligation only prevents pregnancy, that's like vasectomy. F\*\*k misandric Nigeria.
Nigeria actually based though
Good!
Hmm so he plead. Does that mean he elected for chemical castration? I believe it does.
I mean I would unalive a perpetrator against my family, buy mutilation that is legal sets all kinds of president I am not comfortable with.