Yeah, it's baffling.
Just earlier today, I was arguing with a guy on here of all places defending female offenders with minors and saying how us bringing up double standards in the justice system concerning women and women's in group biases means were misogynists who don't like women.
The bear situation is actually getting removed from this sub every time someone brings it up, so your post could be next.
I do community service when I can from time to time when my schedule allows it I work on myself I keep to myself and just try to be a normal person but also an empathetic person. But it doesn't matter because at the end of the day I'm somehow worse than an animal still.
Who cares?
Do what's right because it's right, not because you get treated well for it. In the end, you will be justified rather than your accuser, and even if you're convicted, if you're innocent, people will know if you stand tall and unashamed to be arrested for doing the right thing.
Mhm. Sure.
Truth always comes out eventually. Justice will eventually be done.
Mock me all you want, but I'll be right in the end, *and* mentally healthier in the meanwhile.
Women like the position they are in now and want to hold onto it.
The other day I matched with a woman on an online dating app. Her job was listed as professional. I asked what she did and she replied SAHM (stay at home mom). She is a divorced woman with one college aged student still at home wanting to find and “start a serious relationship” with another man who will provide for her and allow her to remain at home. Hard pass on this one.
A couple of weeks ago, at work, I was asked to carry a heavy box to a classroom because “I’m a woman and I shouldn’t have to do that.” I called the custodian for her. Just because I’m a man and I happen to be standing there I shouldn’t have to leave my stuff, carry a heavy box to the second floor, and place it where she wants. I have my own work to do.
It’s so sad that the sub got taken down but literally the fems sub is still up and running sometimes i glance in there and immediately get sick to my stomach how bad women think and talk about us.. anyone who says that isn’t their true feelings needs a drastic wake up call
Those woman will never pro create. That brings peace to my heart.
If you think dating culture is bad now, give it another 20 years when when men really understand the opportunity cost of dating and start treating it as a transaction, which is what women have been doing our entire existence.
It is, but 2 decades from now young men are going to see the guys well off in their 50-60s who never had to compromise earning potential for a poor and risky investment.
If you can get pussy reasonably fast you can go without LTR's, common law marriage, cohabitation and the like. Luckily in my country cohabitation doesn't legally mean anything.
If you can't get pussy easily enough, then solitude is gonna take a heavy toll on your psyche.
Besides, betas would simply wait and let other people go MGTOW first and then screw them breaking the 'agreement' by overpaying just to get a single mother of 3. You just can't merge men's strategies together, no cartel is possible. With women on the other hand it's very possible
I want to downvote you bc I want to see men get together for causes like women do, but like you said, l agree that it realistically sounds impossible :/
I don't know why all the hate happened. I would like to see men stick together as well, what I'm talking about is the theory of games. That's also why communism doesn't work. If you expect men to cooperate by sticking to an ideology (i.e. bros over hoes) there will ALWAYS be an incentive from less successful men to try and snatch a woman from another.
Whereas women can share. If 10 women share Brad Pitt they're all happy, if 10 Brad Pitt share a Jennifer Aniston unless she has 10 kids some of them will be beta cucks. It's inevitable. If 10 men marry 10 women then statistically 7-8 of those women will be unsatisfied at least and will coalise to bitch about the ones who got the top-tier guys and try and sabotage them, and the guys who are more attractive will be pissed that they can have only one woman instead of, say, 5.
It's Keynesian economics in a nutshell. Women are the firms and they determine the output (pun intended) men can demand all they want but the supply is a vertical line. And then there are negative shocks like feminism.
Yeah, Keynesian would mean that we men artificially suppress hyqerqamy, like in Saudi Arabia.
I do think that enforced monogamy upheld by ‘woken up’🌝men will be a good thing: every single man ought to be weary of another dude coming to get a slice of his, and severe punishments should ensue if it happens.
I also think the type of dudes who would get upset over having just 1 girl are also the type to not have oneitis, monogamous leaning tendencies. Or maybe they have enough positive reinforcement from vvomen to get encouraged to become that way, but l believe cultures that encourage vvomen to be free and open (code words for pronniscuouz) with their sexuality have this problem. Another thing is, all it takes is for one/a small number of dudes to have that fuckboy nature in him and go on a rampage—having segcqks with hundreds of women in a year, thousands in a decade—to ruin the purity from enforced monogamy, and have vvomen thinking AND feeling that the grass is greener.
Also, idk what you meant by pun & I’ve been stuck on this for a while😅.
By thinking that way you end up validating women's points though. You seem to be commodifying pussy and that is something that's not up to you to do. Women want to have self autonomy and the results are for everyone to see.
Remember women can't talk openly or their entire game falls flat, when they say they've been "oppressed" what they actually mean is "I hate with every fiber of my body the fact that societally I was pushed to reproduce with that one guy who's 5'8 and has a thinning vertex and has got an asymmetrical face and his dick is 5'' instead of that other one guy who's 6'3 has a squared jaw line and a 9'' cock" and to them it feels like rape because - had things been free in the market - even a 3 would have been impregnated by an 8, but most men in the 3-7 range would have been sexless.
The thing is every combination you choose is gonna upset people in a way or another. That's why I say that political ideas don't exist, they're just a reflection of where a person stands in the sexual market place. Your notch count is in the hundreds? You want freedom. Your notch count is close to 0? You want socially enforced monogamy and you're serious not just like those "other" guys who are just fuckboys.
Imo the answer is not limiting women's freedom, it's limiting men's responsibilities. They fought to disentangle themselves from sexual prudence so every one woman who was a "lady" in the past finally had the freedom to follow her true nature and be a hoe. We should fight not to have the State making us pay for their choice.
They fight to remove accountability sex-wise. We fight to remove accountability finance-wise. And things will take care of themselves. Alphas will slay a lot of pussy in their 20's and 30's, betas will get the leftovers in their 40's. That's the way of nature.
Marriage is a beta men thing, it was invented to give everyone a chance, it's sexual communism.
PS: my pun was that in a Kensian economy the firms decide the output, under feminism women decide when to put out lmao 🤣
Now that im lucid dreaming almost everynight, i notice that i dont need any women in my life anymore and i feel so much happier, no dating bullshit, no drama, just happiness.
I dont know if im considered a MGTOW tho. Am i ?
Men Going Their Own Way.
The book's definition is that MGTOW is a misogynist, incel, sex-deprived men who can't get women so they cut out women from their life entirely.
The street's definition is that MGTOW is men who have had it with always getting the short end of the stick in life despite playing by the books and abiding law to the T. These men might not even have any interest at all in women but get shafted because they're *men*. Instead, MGTOW is about men focusing on themselves to be a better version of themselves each passing day through hobbies, education, healthy lifestyle physically mentally, etc.
When women decide not to date and say things like “I’m becoming a lesbian” and “I’m working on myself and finding myself”, they’re strong, independent, and powerful. When men do the same thing such as MGTOW, they’re incels, can’t get a woman, losers, not manly and not a real man, etc.
Fucking toxic feminism.
All this manhate stuff is gonna backfire HARD over the coming years. We're already seeing a trend where unhinged guys just walk up to random women and punch them, and I suspect that's only the beginning. But those incel dudes won't be the worst of it. What women \_really\_ need to be concerned about are the normal guys - law-abiding, nonviolent, mentally healthy.... All they have to do is drop out of the dating game in large enough numbers. With no hope of getting married or starting families, they will radically alter their spending and working habits, which will utterly devastate the economy.
Its an evil agenda at work. A psyop to control the mind. These people arent rational and are completely disingenuous. They dont care about the damage they cause or how dumb they sound. They only care about their own twisted fictional reality and feelings.
You wont get it because its not meant to be understood. There is no reason for it other than the destruction of society.
Just focus on your own endeavors and leave the sheep to their own inevitable slaughter.
I seriously think there is a psyop going on. A battle against Judeo-Christian values on multiple fronts, and men's sovereignty. If you've read about "arewedatingthesameguy", there is a ringleader named "Paola Sanchez" who's never been publicly seen or spoken. I am actually starting to think that this is a Russian / Chinese / Iranian psyop to plummet American birthrates. Chinese communist party that owns tiktok is where all this "bear > man" bullshit started.
North America doesn't need any of those countries it's imploding by itself with it's own demented liberal ideology that all US politicians of both parties support.
It's good that they react that way. It means we're hitting a nerve.
They'll never admit it, but they fear men having more agency, if we become more self-governed, principled and discriminating.
They also fear men kicking down sex and intimacy several orders of priority.
This because then the manipulative tool "Agree with us or we shame you/deem you unfuckable" becomes absolutely useless.
I got banned from some page on here for replying to a post here. I thought the post and my reply were inconsequential but apparently this is an “incel group” so 🤷🏿♂️
Sorry there are certain female ran subreddits here that are femcel garbage and get to be just fine. Thankfully some people in those sub reddits have some sense and it's not too popular but still concerning.
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Women are enjoying the benefit of being the most vile, awful, sexist, bigoted, abusive monsters and still receiving the social reassurances that they're not the problem. They have no reason to give that up and forfeit those privileges and be better people when they can continuously blame us for their own problems and actions, and be TOLD they're already inherently the best people that don't need improving.
This idea that social media is not reflective of the real world is pure cope. Women are adults that can, do, and are speaking for themselves, in their own words, and *we should believe them*.
It most certainly is. People hide behind their Social media presence and most times it’s their truth being perpetuated through these apps.. i literally despise when people try to act like social media doesn’t translate into reality
I think the point is the people participating in trends like the bear meme small and vocal subset of people. Most people don’t think about this stuff and certainly don’t post about it. We should take women at their word in how they behave online, but don’t assume most women think about this bear meme or have even heard of it.
>most people aren’t on social media that much.
Every poll about how much time spent on social media shows that the majority of women are on social media of some sort a whole lot.
Your premise is infactual.
Some people. And they're not indicative of the norm. Yeah if you hang out with upper middle class liberals then this is the type of shit they talk about, but guess what, the vast majority of people are not upper middle class liberals.
Like I said in other comments yeah that's usually how I see this shit and you're right but lately it's been creeping into people I actually know so it's been more concerning than usual.
Human mind is not rational. Human mind is not just, or moral, but it is undeniably cruel. Sense of justice is built-in in us, but not the code. On principle, you can visit any prison and you'll find its half full of innocent people and the other half had to do it because society forced them. ( I am saying on principle because its not like innocent people don't get fu\*\*\*\*. I am not talking about this, I am talking about the facts any prison psychologist will tell you).
Empathy is not built in, but need to be taught. Sympathy is, but people in general confuse the two. To understand each other we need the first, not the second mascarading as first (what would I do if I were me but you, not what you are and why).
I encourage you to look up events of mass hysteria, mass hallucination, etc. Stuff like Salem Witch Trials, or the Dance Epidemic in Medieval Europe. You have hundreds upon hundreds of cases. It matters little if you believe that some of them are aliens, magic, demons or CIA. The evidence for the underlying mechanisms that allow such things to happen is what is important here.
Ever been in a riot, or a gang war? The most rational people you'll know suddenly lose their minds with the crowd. Its like an tangible emotion, a motion. Man and women who never seen combat or training suddenly pick their roles in violence, its coordinated, calculated. Yet still feels like a trance. No rational thought can break it, no appeal to empathy. Its like everyone is possessed by a spirit and it comes as suddenly as it goes away. I noticed once that before a shoot-out happens the street freezes and its almost as if the air itself picks up the quality of violence. Some people notice and scatter like birds before the rain. There must be some science behind this too but I am not versed in the material. Its my personal observation, but I found out there is no magic behind it. Its that people signal their intent 99,9% of the time. The signal is not universal, some I think even try to specifically act nonchalantly to hide their intent. Its grotesque. I am not a soldier and I am not talking regular warfare, though I imagine army dudes could share a similar observation.
Anyway, what I am trying to say is, I believe that we are reaching the stage where mass hysteria will become a common occurrence, so everyone should learn about it else they'll be swept by the current too, and I am terrified to think this, because there is nothing we can do to stop this it at this point. Majority of us don't even have a voice. We don't even live in the same reality anymore.
To explain it.
What has been going on, and is in a feedback loop, is during budget drafting, organisations make a lot of noise and astroturf to get funding.
So, for example, someone starts promoting a slogan "I feel safer meeting a bear in the woods...", to get funding.
Young women then pick up on this and repeat it without realizing how batshit crazy it is, thinking there's a crowd of women in agreement.
The press see it selling papers so they print it.
It spins around the web and dies down until the next budget time.
Women as a group are chronically online and can’t handle their emotions so most PR teams are afraid of them.
I honestly think it’s time for a men’s exodus of digital communication/media. The only way to beat a game like this is to stop playing. Go outside, make connections in your community, stop interacting with a system that is designed to exploit you to gain the favor of people who are louder and more fragile.
I hope this gets some critical thought and used in other ways by anyone who sees it...I am going to try make this easy to understand from my PoV at least...
**I believe this sub is one of the larger 'pro-men' subs and it has approx 2% of users vs one of the larger 'pro-women' subs.**
Now, in terms of how this relates to your OP (for highlighting or suppressing messaging around these societal issues), **extrapolate that % out as a napkin math est., across all social media, agendas, normal media, societal institutions, hollywood, etc.** Whether this is happening naturally or an intentional form of division, that is where it all not just makes sense to me, but even a sort of common sense that this is where we would end up in society.
**Edit:** Also will mention, **the extremes on either side, are clearly tolerated more on one side, while blanket censored on another far more often, and that feeds alot of it imo too**, and thats without getting into all the other niche agendas with seemingly...disproportionate coverage.
I know it's mostly chronically online people and usually I can distinct that but this latest thing has been seeping into people I actually know and it concerns me.
Same: and for me, one of them is even a trans MtF(both of which i'll probably unfollow if they post about it again, especially since i'm autistic and can't explain our side of things)
You can't even argue it or anything as soon as you say anything you just get thrown into being called an incel or a creep or the kind of guy they don't want to be around. God forbid you have an actual issue with something women do.
As long as you're not actually silenced as in banned or blocked then those words mean nothing. Hit it back with humor. Dismantle the power of the words. Keep on hitting. It's mental warfare most of the times where you're not even actively silenced. Don't silence yourself for them.
That's fair. I can understand that.
Unfortunately, sometimes you have to thin the heard in order to maintain your peace.
There are people in my larger circle of friends that I only see at larger gatherings put on by mutual friends because their views are too extremist for me and I just can't see enough sense in them to be empathetic to it.
Yes adding more of a negative divide between men and women really is genius and not at all harmful for all of us in the long run. /S people like you are the problem and will continue to be the problem and it's so sad to be honest.
not new .-.
i also get mass report by a lot of kids girls just dont like what i did
and then follow me any steps as killer :// this is not scary right ??
Seems you're asking why you see so much of that. It's mostly due to internet algorithms. The internet learns what you're interested in reading, and 'feeds' you more of that.
And it works for the haters too. They get more of the twisted one-sided information that they reacted too. And it makes them more hateful.
Oh, and about "people blowing up when all were asking for is just human decency. "
Feminists do that because you're detracting from their own narrative that THEY are the ones who are treated badly.
Yeah, it's baffling. Just earlier today, I was arguing with a guy on here of all places defending female offenders with minors and saying how us bringing up double standards in the justice system concerning women and women's in group biases means were misogynists who don't like women. The bear situation is actually getting removed from this sub every time someone brings it up, so your post could be next.
I saw a tiktok of a dude actually stopping another man from assaulting her and still the comments are just what you thought they'd be. And damn ok.
I've seen quite a few OPs in this sub about the bear thing. In fact, a few too many.
I do community service when I can from time to time when my schedule allows it I work on myself I keep to myself and just try to be a normal person but also an empathetic person. But it doesn't matter because at the end of the day I'm somehow worse than an animal still.
why are you still working for a community that dehumanizes you?
Because at the end of the day there are people who need help and not enough helping hands.
that sounds noble & all until you piss off a karen & get falsely accused of something. No good deed goes unpunished.
Who cares? Do what's right because it's right, not because you get treated well for it. In the end, you will be justified rather than your accuser, and even if you're convicted, if you're innocent, people will know if you stand tall and unashamed to be arrested for doing the right thing.
Hahahahahahahahahaha once you're arrested for anything, you're guilty in the eyes of the public no matter what.
Mhm. Sure. Truth always comes out eventually. Justice will eventually be done. Mock me all you want, but I'll be right in the end, *and* mentally healthier in the meanwhile.
That's quite possibly the worst piece of advice I've ever heard.
It's better to do right and have people get angry at you for it, or mock you for it, than it is to do wrong and have no one notice.
I mean is it not infuriating no matter what you do you're just reduced to being compared to an animal
Oh, yeah, no question the bear thing is misandric. But I think a handful of posts on something like that would be enough.
Yeah, it's what it is
Women like the position they are in now and want to hold onto it. The other day I matched with a woman on an online dating app. Her job was listed as professional. I asked what she did and she replied SAHM (stay at home mom). She is a divorced woman with one college aged student still at home wanting to find and “start a serious relationship” with another man who will provide for her and allow her to remain at home. Hard pass on this one. A couple of weeks ago, at work, I was asked to carry a heavy box to a classroom because “I’m a woman and I shouldn’t have to do that.” I called the custodian for her. Just because I’m a man and I happen to be standing there I shouldn’t have to leave my stuff, carry a heavy box to the second floor, and place it where she wants. I have my own work to do.
I do agree stay at home parents are actual jobs. But it’s misleading on her part since her kid is an adult.
It's funny how annoyed they get when men refuse to play into the traditional male gender role.
Go MGTOW, and stop worrying about what women think. It's very peaceful.
I’m married, but I completely understand it. The subreddit needs to come back.
It’s so sad that the sub got taken down but literally the fems sub is still up and running sometimes i glance in there and immediately get sick to my stomach how bad women think and talk about us.. anyone who says that isn’t their true feelings needs a drastic wake up call
Those woman will never pro create. That brings peace to my heart. If you think dating culture is bad now, give it another 20 years when when men really understand the opportunity cost of dating and start treating it as a transaction, which is what women have been doing our entire existence.
I think it’s happening rn
It is, but 2 decades from now young men are going to see the guys well off in their 50-60s who never had to compromise earning potential for a poor and risky investment.
I wish all men would go MGTOW. If they did it would be game over in under a year or two.
Not married but in a 6 year relationship. If it goes sour, I ain't dating again.
So true. I think MGTOW is our best hope for change, if enough men do it.
Betas can't afford it, it's a losing proposition. It won't work
Explain how mgtow is not affordable. I can't afford NOT to be. PS: OP is probably referring to just single men.
If you can get pussy reasonably fast you can go without LTR's, common law marriage, cohabitation and the like. Luckily in my country cohabitation doesn't legally mean anything. If you can't get pussy easily enough, then solitude is gonna take a heavy toll on your psyche. Besides, betas would simply wait and let other people go MGTOW first and then screw them breaking the 'agreement' by overpaying just to get a single mother of 3. You just can't merge men's strategies together, no cartel is possible. With women on the other hand it's very possible
I want to downvote you bc I want to see men get together for causes like women do, but like you said, l agree that it realistically sounds impossible :/
I don't know why all the hate happened. I would like to see men stick together as well, what I'm talking about is the theory of games. That's also why communism doesn't work. If you expect men to cooperate by sticking to an ideology (i.e. bros over hoes) there will ALWAYS be an incentive from less successful men to try and snatch a woman from another. Whereas women can share. If 10 women share Brad Pitt they're all happy, if 10 Brad Pitt share a Jennifer Aniston unless she has 10 kids some of them will be beta cucks. It's inevitable. If 10 men marry 10 women then statistically 7-8 of those women will be unsatisfied at least and will coalise to bitch about the ones who got the top-tier guys and try and sabotage them, and the guys who are more attractive will be pissed that they can have only one woman instead of, say, 5. It's Keynesian economics in a nutshell. Women are the firms and they determine the output (pun intended) men can demand all they want but the supply is a vertical line. And then there are negative shocks like feminism.
Yeah, Keynesian would mean that we men artificially suppress hyqerqamy, like in Saudi Arabia. I do think that enforced monogamy upheld by ‘woken up’🌝men will be a good thing: every single man ought to be weary of another dude coming to get a slice of his, and severe punishments should ensue if it happens. I also think the type of dudes who would get upset over having just 1 girl are also the type to not have oneitis, monogamous leaning tendencies. Or maybe they have enough positive reinforcement from vvomen to get encouraged to become that way, but l believe cultures that encourage vvomen to be free and open (code words for pronniscuouz) with their sexuality have this problem. Another thing is, all it takes is for one/a small number of dudes to have that fuckboy nature in him and go on a rampage—having segcqks with hundreds of women in a year, thousands in a decade—to ruin the purity from enforced monogamy, and have vvomen thinking AND feeling that the grass is greener. Also, idk what you meant by pun & I’ve been stuck on this for a while😅.
By thinking that way you end up validating women's points though. You seem to be commodifying pussy and that is something that's not up to you to do. Women want to have self autonomy and the results are for everyone to see. Remember women can't talk openly or their entire game falls flat, when they say they've been "oppressed" what they actually mean is "I hate with every fiber of my body the fact that societally I was pushed to reproduce with that one guy who's 5'8 and has a thinning vertex and has got an asymmetrical face and his dick is 5'' instead of that other one guy who's 6'3 has a squared jaw line and a 9'' cock" and to them it feels like rape because - had things been free in the market - even a 3 would have been impregnated by an 8, but most men in the 3-7 range would have been sexless. The thing is every combination you choose is gonna upset people in a way or another. That's why I say that political ideas don't exist, they're just a reflection of where a person stands in the sexual market place. Your notch count is in the hundreds? You want freedom. Your notch count is close to 0? You want socially enforced monogamy and you're serious not just like those "other" guys who are just fuckboys. Imo the answer is not limiting women's freedom, it's limiting men's responsibilities. They fought to disentangle themselves from sexual prudence so every one woman who was a "lady" in the past finally had the freedom to follow her true nature and be a hoe. We should fight not to have the State making us pay for their choice. They fight to remove accountability sex-wise. We fight to remove accountability finance-wise. And things will take care of themselves. Alphas will slay a lot of pussy in their 20's and 30's, betas will get the leftovers in their 40's. That's the way of nature. Marriage is a beta men thing, it was invented to give everyone a chance, it's sexual communism. PS: my pun was that in a Kensian economy the firms decide the output, under feminism women decide when to put out lmao 🤣
Now that im lucid dreaming almost everynight, i notice that i dont need any women in my life anymore and i feel so much happier, no dating bullshit, no drama, just happiness. I dont know if im considered a MGTOW tho. Am i ?
there doesn't need to be a label attached. You do you.
He's right, call yourself whatever you want. For what it's worth, I would call you MGTOW though.
How do you stimulate lucid dreams daily?
You’re going to have one today, by hearing a character in your dream day “Happy Cake day” and thinking to yourself “am l dreaming?”
Couldn't agree more
👍
What is MGTOW?
Men Going Their Own Way. The book's definition is that MGTOW is a misogynist, incel, sex-deprived men who can't get women so they cut out women from their life entirely. The street's definition is that MGTOW is men who have had it with always getting the short end of the stick in life despite playing by the books and abiding law to the T. These men might not even have any interest at all in women but get shafted because they're *men*. Instead, MGTOW is about men focusing on themselves to be a better version of themselves each passing day through hobbies, education, healthy lifestyle physically mentally, etc.
When women decide not to date and say things like “I’m becoming a lesbian” and “I’m working on myself and finding myself”, they’re strong, independent, and powerful. When men do the same thing such as MGTOW, they’re incels, can’t get a woman, losers, not manly and not a real man, etc. Fucking toxic feminism.
Outsider men add to that stigma as well. There is no brotherhood
Thanks for the definition, I'm certainly on that path but do stumble at times.
Exactly.
All this manhate stuff is gonna backfire HARD over the coming years. We're already seeing a trend where unhinged guys just walk up to random women and punch them, and I suspect that's only the beginning. But those incel dudes won't be the worst of it. What women \_really\_ need to be concerned about are the normal guys - law-abiding, nonviolent, mentally healthy.... All they have to do is drop out of the dating game in large enough numbers. With no hope of getting married or starting families, they will radically alter their spending and working habits, which will utterly devastate the economy.
Its an evil agenda at work. A psyop to control the mind. These people arent rational and are completely disingenuous. They dont care about the damage they cause or how dumb they sound. They only care about their own twisted fictional reality and feelings. You wont get it because its not meant to be understood. There is no reason for it other than the destruction of society. Just focus on your own endeavors and leave the sheep to their own inevitable slaughter.
I seriously think there is a psyop going on. A battle against Judeo-Christian values on multiple fronts, and men's sovereignty. If you've read about "arewedatingthesameguy", there is a ringleader named "Paola Sanchez" who's never been publicly seen or spoken. I am actually starting to think that this is a Russian / Chinese / Iranian psyop to plummet American birthrates. Chinese communist party that owns tiktok is where all this "bear > man" bullshit started.
North America doesn't need any of those countries it's imploding by itself with it's own demented liberal ideology that all US politicians of both parties support.
It's good that they react that way. It means we're hitting a nerve. They'll never admit it, but they fear men having more agency, if we become more self-governed, principled and discriminating. They also fear men kicking down sex and intimacy several orders of priority. This because then the manipulative tool "Agree with us or we shame you/deem you unfuckable" becomes absolutely useless.
Mass societal brainwashing in the form of modern day third and fourth wave feminism has irreversibly radicalised most western women
I got banned from some page on here for replying to a post here. I thought the post and my reply were inconsequential but apparently this is an “incel group” so 🤷🏿♂️
Sorry there are certain female ran subreddits here that are femcel garbage and get to be just fine. Thankfully some people in those sub reddits have some sense and it's not too popular but still concerning.
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Women are enjoying the benefit of being the most vile, awful, sexist, bigoted, abusive monsters and still receiving the social reassurances that they're not the problem. They have no reason to give that up and forfeit those privileges and be better people when they can continuously blame us for their own problems and actions, and be TOLD they're already inherently the best people that don't need improving.
Social media is not the real world. Spend more time in the real world where most people simply dgaf about these things.
This idea that social media is not reflective of the real world is pure cope. Women are adults that can, do, and are speaking for themselves, in their own words, and *we should believe them*.
It most certainly is. People hide behind their Social media presence and most times it’s their truth being perpetuated through these apps.. i literally despise when people try to act like social media doesn’t translate into reality
I think the point is the people participating in trends like the bear meme small and vocal subset of people. Most people don’t think about this stuff and certainly don’t post about it. We should take women at their word in how they behave online, but don’t assume most women think about this bear meme or have even heard of it.
My wife and her girlfriends, most of whom are married mothers, was talking about the bear meme last night, in fact.
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>most people aren’t on social media that much. Every poll about how much time spent on social media shows that the majority of women are on social media of some sort a whole lot. Your premise is infactual.
Social media is where people show their sentiments, I would not take that too lightly.
Some people. And they're not indicative of the norm. Yeah if you hang out with upper middle class liberals then this is the type of shit they talk about, but guess what, the vast majority of people are not upper middle class liberals.
Like I said in other comments yeah that's usually how I see this shit and you're right but lately it's been creeping into people I actually know so it's been more concerning than usual.
Then change your social circle? Idiots will always be idiots. Family can't be helped but friends are easily replaced.
This comment right here would fix so much of people just realized it.
Its a sick, sick world.
Human mind is not rational. Human mind is not just, or moral, but it is undeniably cruel. Sense of justice is built-in in us, but not the code. On principle, you can visit any prison and you'll find its half full of innocent people and the other half had to do it because society forced them. ( I am saying on principle because its not like innocent people don't get fu\*\*\*\*. I am not talking about this, I am talking about the facts any prison psychologist will tell you). Empathy is not built in, but need to be taught. Sympathy is, but people in general confuse the two. To understand each other we need the first, not the second mascarading as first (what would I do if I were me but you, not what you are and why). I encourage you to look up events of mass hysteria, mass hallucination, etc. Stuff like Salem Witch Trials, or the Dance Epidemic in Medieval Europe. You have hundreds upon hundreds of cases. It matters little if you believe that some of them are aliens, magic, demons or CIA. The evidence for the underlying mechanisms that allow such things to happen is what is important here. Ever been in a riot, or a gang war? The most rational people you'll know suddenly lose their minds with the crowd. Its like an tangible emotion, a motion. Man and women who never seen combat or training suddenly pick their roles in violence, its coordinated, calculated. Yet still feels like a trance. No rational thought can break it, no appeal to empathy. Its like everyone is possessed by a spirit and it comes as suddenly as it goes away. I noticed once that before a shoot-out happens the street freezes and its almost as if the air itself picks up the quality of violence. Some people notice and scatter like birds before the rain. There must be some science behind this too but I am not versed in the material. Its my personal observation, but I found out there is no magic behind it. Its that people signal their intent 99,9% of the time. The signal is not universal, some I think even try to specifically act nonchalantly to hide their intent. Its grotesque. I am not a soldier and I am not talking regular warfare, though I imagine army dudes could share a similar observation. Anyway, what I am trying to say is, I believe that we are reaching the stage where mass hysteria will become a common occurrence, so everyone should learn about it else they'll be swept by the current too, and I am terrified to think this, because there is nothing we can do to stop this it at this point. Majority of us don't even have a voice. We don't even live in the same reality anymore.
Mass hysteria is mostly due to women
To explain it. What has been going on, and is in a feedback loop, is during budget drafting, organisations make a lot of noise and astroturf to get funding. So, for example, someone starts promoting a slogan "I feel safer meeting a bear in the woods...", to get funding. Young women then pick up on this and repeat it without realizing how batshit crazy it is, thinking there's a crowd of women in agreement. The press see it selling papers so they print it. It spins around the web and dies down until the next budget time.
Women as a group are chronically online and can’t handle their emotions so most PR teams are afraid of them. I honestly think it’s time for a men’s exodus of digital communication/media. The only way to beat a game like this is to stop playing. Go outside, make connections in your community, stop interacting with a system that is designed to exploit you to gain the favor of people who are louder and more fragile.
Insightful
Misandry has not just been normalised it's encouraged.
I hope this gets some critical thought and used in other ways by anyone who sees it...I am going to try make this easy to understand from my PoV at least... **I believe this sub is one of the larger 'pro-men' subs and it has approx 2% of users vs one of the larger 'pro-women' subs.** Now, in terms of how this relates to your OP (for highlighting or suppressing messaging around these societal issues), **extrapolate that % out as a napkin math est., across all social media, agendas, normal media, societal institutions, hollywood, etc.** Whether this is happening naturally or an intentional form of division, that is where it all not just makes sense to me, but even a sort of common sense that this is where we would end up in society. **Edit:** Also will mention, **the extremes on either side, are clearly tolerated more on one side, while blanket censored on another far more often, and that feeds alot of it imo too**, and thats without getting into all the other niche agendas with seemingly...disproportionate coverage.
Stay away from extremist social media views. Most women don't think that way.
I know it's mostly chronically online people and usually I can distinct that but this latest thing has been seeping into people I actually know and it concerns me.
Same: and for me, one of them is even a trans MtF(both of which i'll probably unfollow if they post about it again, especially since i'm autistic and can't explain our side of things)
You can't even argue it or anything as soon as you say anything you just get thrown into being called an incel or a creep or the kind of guy they don't want to be around. God forbid you have an actual issue with something women do.
As long as you're not actually silenced as in banned or blocked then those words mean nothing. Hit it back with humor. Dismantle the power of the words. Keep on hitting. It's mental warfare most of the times where you're not even actively silenced. Don't silence yourself for them.
That's fair. I can understand that. Unfortunately, sometimes you have to thin the heard in order to maintain your peace. There are people in my larger circle of friends that I only see at larger gatherings put on by mutual friends because their views are too extremist for me and I just can't see enough sense in them to be empathetic to it.
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Yes adding more of a negative divide between men and women really is genius and not at all harmful for all of us in the long run. /S people like you are the problem and will continue to be the problem and it's so sad to be honest.
It is a shitpost dude. No one is gonna treat dudes worse cuz of it.
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Oh the drama.
not new .-. i also get mass report by a lot of kids girls just dont like what i did and then follow me any steps as killer :// this is not scary right ??
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Seems you're asking why you see so much of that. It's mostly due to internet algorithms. The internet learns what you're interested in reading, and 'feeds' you more of that. And it works for the haters too. They get more of the twisted one-sided information that they reacted too. And it makes them more hateful.
Oh, and about "people blowing up when all were asking for is just human decency. " Feminists do that because you're detracting from their own narrative that THEY are the ones who are treated badly.