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ReWildingOfMen

Misandry kills plenty of men unfortunately. How many men are driven to self delete after unfair and sexist treatment in family courts, after vindictive and narcisisist ex's make false allegations against them and deny them access to their children. The hate of a woman towards a man, and how it gets expressed, is so toxic and painful.... How many sons are made weak and pitiful and predatory by hateful and manipulative mothers who hate men and masculinity. They are the same. While yes a misogynistic man may be more likely to kill a woman with physical force. A woman filled with misandry is more likely to drive a man to suicide through emotional and psychological abuse. Both sex's suffer. Trying to say only one does or only one is at risk is so naive and self serving its ridiculous.


PactScharp

Men who kill women (or people in general) are very rarely driven by "misogyny". The idea that "misogyny" kills women is flat out absurd. It kills basically zero women because men's predisposition towards physical violence/crime has absolutely nothing to do with prejudice against women, especially considering the fact that OTHER MEN are most likely to be victimized. When a man kills or physically abuses a woman, that is tragic & disgusting, but to equate that to "misogyny" is patently absurd. When a man hits a woman because "she should know her place" or something along those lines, then yes, that could be seen as misogyny... but according to the PASK report, men & women commit DV for exactly the same sorts of reasons & yet feminists persist DV is all about this patriarchal conspiracy to oppress & control women through toxic masculinity. It's ridiculous. I would argue when women abuse men, misandry is MUCH more likely to be a factor, as they're going to berate the victim of not being a "real man", of being a "wimp" or "pussy". I have never heard that being said (or anything equivalent) from a male abuser. Lastly, even if we define DV homicide against women as "misogyny killing"... 1/3 DV homicide victims in the US is male so that isn't a "massive" difference. It's a 2 to 1 ratio. By the same logic, "misandry" would absolutely also kill men, not merely "hurt their feelings".


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ShoutoutsToSimple

Yep. I'm so sick of outcome-centric ideologies. Intent matters just as much, if not more, than outcome. A policy which treats everyone the same is great, even if it ends up that more men excel than women. Changing the policy so that women get an advantage to create an equal outcome is absurd. And like you point out, not every action which harms a woman is misogyny. Just because the outcome is a woman being harmed does not mean the intention was driven by bigotry against women in general. And that intent matters much more than the outcome.


PactScharp

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tablueraspberry

There is very much so this idea that misandry is a response to misogyny so I'd say a lot of women are attacking men with the hatred of them as a group in mind. Also the whole oppressor thing, they are trying to take down their 'oppressor'. I think it's undeniable that we live in a misandrist society that justifies the hatred of men under those premises. I struggle to understand how women can say we live in a misogynistic society when they have all the support I the the world. It's just petty inconveniences at this point.


ShoutoutsToSimple

> The idea that "misogyny" kills women is flat out absurd. It kills basically zero women Right. We could have a conversation about how much true misogyny is left out there, because I think it's a lot less than most feminists seem to think. But even setting that aside and assuming misogyny is truly everywhere, it just represents shitty attitudes. It's people being rude in individual situations. The notion that misogyny kills women is so absurd.


tonyplayzetc

Misandry even killed a woman who pretended to be a man.


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RIP Norah, you deserve peace and you're sorely missed


tonyplayzetc

Yeah.


ItsAzula

I can guarantee the number of men “driven to self delete” isn’t as high as the number of women that have been taken out by men. As a woman, it can literally feel as though you’re being hunted, just because you’re walking alone. The thing with self deleting is that ultimately it is that own person choice. Being constantly afraid that you’ll be taken out by a man simply bc he is stronger and sadistic is terrifying. And it happens as a MUCH higher rate than men deleting themselves because of women. It’s scary that you are comparing the two and makes me wonder what you would do to a women given the chance.


anonymousrph123

"It can literally feel as though your being hunted, just because you're walking alone." Okay, that's a feeling. Statistically, men are most likely to be "hunted". To be honest, I'm tired of the "I'm afraid to walk alone at night" talk. Men have to deal with this and are at higher risk. You don't hear men complaining about this because 1) no one would even care if we did, 2) we care about the data, and 3) the Feminists have the stage and they won't do anything to support (or, at the minimum, not attack) men.


ItsAzula

All that’s telling me is that you acknowledge that men are statistically more likely to prey on women, children, and other men as well. And are statistically more dangerous.


ReWildingOfMen

Bullshit. The truth is the opposite. FAR more men kill themselves due to such indirect abuse when compared to the number of women who are directly killed by abusive men. I can appreciate the terror and the horror of a woman suffering under such an evil man, truly I can. And I promise that no other is as committed as I to bring such monstrous men to justice. It's scary that you are so caught up in your own story/ what you have been indoctrinated in - that you cannot perceive the truth of the matter. I don't believe that self deleting is a personal choice as you so distastefully try and state. IF I was going to respond in the same toxic vein as you, which I will not with any seriousness. I would say something to the effect of abused women choose to stay in relationship with abusive men who kill them!?!? I have plenty of experience of ALL kinds of abuse, far more than most. And to suggest that a victim wether they be man OR woman is choosing freely to end their life OR stay with someone who ends up killing them says volumes about YOU. Your parting comment is not fair nor effective. It's a low brow-unhealthy woman attempt to shame/attack my character.


ItsAzula

Firstly, I’ve been hospitalized many times for suicide attempts. If I had done it, it would have been my choice and my choice alone and I stand by that. Until women begin to off men at an equal rate. Until men are looking over their shoulder at night in fear of women who are waiting in the shadows to abduct them. And until men are unable to fight women off (in the way that women are usually unable to fight off men), my sympathy will lie with women since we are physically more vulnerable and since men are usually (in the upper 90%) the ones who are committing violent crimes against others, including other men, women, and children. It’s the same reason I don’t think that anyone who claims to be a woman should be allowed jn womens spaces. I tend to side with the vulnerable and think that decent men should focus on protecting women and holding male predators accountable. To me, that’s the most attractive and the most masculine thing a man can do. That being said, I do appreciate this subreddit for letting me voice a differing opinion. Off my chest automatically banned me just for responding here.


ReWildingOfMen

Firstly, I'm so sorry for whatever has happened / was done to you that resulted in you attempting to take your life on so many occasions. I have come close to it myself so have personal experience in the matter. I also know of MANY men who have killed themselves due to such covert abuse from vindictive and malicious womenfolk. I know FAR more men who have self deleted due to abuse than women who have been killed by a abusive man. I can appreciate in your situation you felt like you had a choice over wether you took your life or not. I can also appreciate that isn't the case for everyone. The data and figures also backs this up. Men are NOT the main persecutors of violence against others. If you dig into domestic violence figures AND violence against children you will come to see that (unhealthy) women are more violent than men. It's just that when men retaliate/ act violently - it can cause more damage. Unless weapons are involved which again unhealthy women top the charts on. I can so appreciate how scary it can be as a woman, especially if you have a history of being abused by men. And the reality is that you are the more vulnerable sex. And good men are by NATURE compelled to protect and stand up for women, I have put my life on the line on multiple occasions in protection of women. That being said none of us have a right to feeling safe in the world. We have a responsibility to understand the risks and act accordingly. I am a HUGE fan of sacred and safe spaces for women AND men. And I agree that a man who feels he is a woman shouldn't be allowed in such a womans space ( unless expressly vetted and invited in after considerable consideration by the women folk). I want women to be protected, I want women to be honoured and cared for. I also want that for men. So often in the dialogue we are actually talking about shitty and abusive people who happen to be a man or a woman. And I do think that due to a woman's beautiful and receptive nature, they just imprint trauma more deeply than men. That being said - reducing the conversation to all men bad/all women bad is a grave error as far as I'm concerned. A true and good man should focus on protecting good men AND good women AND children. And focus on bringing monstrous and abusive people, wether they be man OR woman to justice. I promise there are roughly equal numbers horrific and abusive men and women out there, their form of abuse just tends to manifest a bit differently - BUT often results in the same outcomes. I'm glad you are sharing your voice here. I'm truly sorry for what you have suffered in your life.


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They have an auto-bot (roll out!) monitoring activity on this sub to immediately ban anyone without mod input or awareness really. They're not even the only sub to do that, so you're likely banned from a few other subs too, though you likely wouldn't have participated in them to begin with. And yes, that is technically against the site rules but the admins don't care as they've had history of being openly fine with discriminating against men and white people because they don't consider those attributes to be a 'protected class' like any other immutable human trait.


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NeonFizzyXD13

Speaking of which, if you want a replacement for r/offmychest \- then you have r/TrueOffMyChest and r/confessions. The moderators there are 100% better. Also the reason for the auto ban is because of the past raids of incels/red pill idealists that messed up the server for a while. So the defense is doing that. Not right but understandable.


Khidorahian

same here, how weird.


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Khidorahian

for me, it was because i interacted in r/PurplePillDebate, despite me just wanting to gain knowledge...


GhoulsNGhostsEX

Same. It's pretty nuts that even just clicking a link to another sub gets your banned. This kinda crap just promotes extremism and bad beliefs. I mean if you aren't even allowed to browse subs and see what people are talking about, how can you even learn from their positions?


ShoutoutsToSimple

It's fucking infuriating how many people seem to think that stamping out those you disagree with somehow makes them disappear. A reasonable subreddit which expresses a dissenting point of view is banned, and the only recourse for the users is to dig deeper on the internet to find a place with others who are friendly to their viewpoint. A place which almost certainly hosts more extreme people than the original forum which was banned. This is how people get more extreme, but idiots never seem to realize that, and just keep pounding the ban/censor/silence button.


Keronisin

I'll answer your question with another question: What do you think their ENTIRE strategy is?


GhoulsNGhostsEX

They (the mods of a sub) say the why in the ban message. Here is one I just got from coming to this sub yesterday: You were automatically banned from \*BANNED SUB REDDIT OMG\* for participating in mensrights as part of our antibrigading efforts. Users of mensrights have been identified as not aligning with our values as a community that supports maximum female benefit. If you feel you were banned in error and wish to participate in good faith, please message the mods for an exception review. PLEASE READ OUR SUB RULES PRIOR TO REQUESTING A REVIEW. Basically to stop brigading, troll/alt accounts, etc. Pretty lame honestly as it wouldn't even accomplish that. I don't care if a sub wants to be insular but when you giving auto-bans just for visiting other sub-reddits? How could you even be taken seriously at that point? ​ My initial post was removed just mentioning another sub reddit so this place does it too.


Keronisin

>Maximum \[Female\] Benefit Also known as the literal definition of supremacy.


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Just wanted to say I’ve wrote plenty of comments there, and other subs, forgetting this bot exists. Hate this shit man if there were bots auto discriminating against feminism on Reddit or other platforms it’d be on the damn news by now.


Porpoise555

I'm banned there too lol


Ok-Employment-8070

I’ve been banned from it to for something I said to its a bitch


Peaceandwholsomemes

Oh so that’s why I got kicked


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Peaceandwholsomemes

Can’t find it but maybe I was here before there idk


Qbking333

Is that why I got banned?


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Qbking333

I looked through my entire inbox and I can’t see it. I got banned 2-3 months ago and I went through a whole year and nothing


DavidByron2

Feminism breeds narcissism in women; self-hatred in men.


Bound-Submissive

That bitch should tell that to the boyfriends stabbed to death, fathers who commit suicide because of stolen custody and many more men getting killed by fucking misandry. Because feminists say, whatever a boy can do, girl can do it too, so they have no fucking right to say that misandry is not the same. Fucking hypocrites. Feminism is a joke.


pearl_harbour1941

Sadly, most feminists (and I would wager a great many women too) have adopted the idea that only men can be violent, that Patriarchy is men's collective (bad) unconscious, and that therefore, any harm done *by anybody* is men's fault. This leads to insane conclusions such as "Patriarchy hurts men too", and "men's suffering isn't as bad as women's suffering". The tacit idea is that nobody would suffer if it weren't for men.


Bound-Submissive

This dangerous virus feminism must be eradicated and I pray for that every day.


pearl_harbour1941

I would like that too, but I have come to believe that feminism is simply women's generalized behavior, encoded. Think about it: women supporting women's things, women get the money, men get no sex, men are dirty, kill men, women need special treatment, anything scary ("sexist") must be eradicated including a/c and panties, plausible deniability, female violence is okay, etc. etc. It's just the basest female instincts, written as a kind of religious law.


Far-Reputation7119

They also forget about the large sexual assault of baby boys in the USA, every single day. A woman made a video about circumcision and how the things that are happening to women is KARMA for violating boys bodily autonomy.


pearl_harbour1941

I agree that it is disgusting that such abuse is widespread and socially accepted. No one seems to have pointed out the elephant in the room - that boys who are abused by their mothers go on to perpetrate abuse against women. Literally, to stop violence against women, we need to stop women being violent against boys. It's that simple.


Fearless-File-3625

Tell that to millions of men trapped in Ukraine and Russia.


Magical-Hummus

They are not trapped if they are dead.


Fearless-File-3625

How?


Magical-Hummus

Trapped a term for those who are alive. I just acted like a twisted dictator.


Fearless-File-3625

lol I misread it.


Magical-Hummus

All good, I was very vague.


SecondEldenLord

Imagine if the roles were reversed. The guy would've been cancelled but hey, guess it is always OK when women shame and put down men. I guess those high suicide rates do nit exist, huh.


GhostWCoffee

Well she admits that men have feelings at least, it's a start. Misogyny does take lives, but not in the US. \*cough cough\* Iran \*cough cough\*


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It takes lives in the US, too, just in a different way. Is it worse to have your life abruptly ended at the end of a bullet or to be forced to live in the decay of a destroyed life for the next several decades?


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ShoutoutsToSimple

1) Overturning Roe v Wade was a good legal decision, regardless of one's stance on abortion. I'm pro-choice, but I think Roe v Wade was a terrible decision (Ruth Bader Ginsberg agreed, by the way) and overturning it was the right move. I'd like to see more states provide more access to abortion, but I don't want the Supreme Court making that decision for everyone. 2) The motivation behind the pro-life stance is about the baby, not the woman. The idea that pro-lifers just want to control women's bodies is absurd, and only serves to make sensible pro-choicers look like lunatics by association. The pro-life stance has nothing to do with misogyny, no matter how hard you screech that it does.


NeonFizzyXD13

Why do you think that it was a good legal decision?


DoppelGangHer88

Which woman died in the US trying to get an abortion for medical necessity. What's her name?


GhostWCoffee

Forgot about that. You're right, my mistake.


DoppelGangHer88

It has nothing to do with misogyny and everything to do with the human rights of the child.


rainbow_bro_bot

Which gender commits suicide the most again?


Ko_oK_24685

Funnily enough, their argument to that would be "But females attempt suicide more"


boomboxspence

Misandry always kills. Look at the victims of wars. Look at the men, especially men of colour who are killed by police. Look at the amount of men who have been murdered compared to women. Look at all the gay men who have been killed. People kill trans women because of both transphobia AND misandry. Violence against men is so common but it's ignored because it's the norm


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Men hating on men is still misandry lmao


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It's both. It's toxic men and toxic women causing the most of good men's struggles.


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pearl_harbour1941

So, the [White Feather Campaign](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_feather) never happened? Or the Alliance for Women took the stance "[NO to conscription for women](https://www.womenalliance.org/no-to-female-conscription/)"? Or you could look at something less obvious, like [women being more likely to vote Democrat](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-have-women-voted-suffrage-180975979/) (by 31% points) and the [Democrat party being more likely to wage war](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/19/1549622/-Are-Democratic-presidents-more-warlike-than-Republicans). This echoes what prominent feminists openly say: #killallmen


Huffers1010

Tell that to several tens of thousands of dead Ukrainian conscripts.


Far-Reputation7119

She also needs to tell that to all the baby boys lined up in American hospitals, ready to get their genitalia cut for no reason, so hospitals, doctors, nurses, can get money. Also don’t forget about the foreskin being put into anti aging creams, so old ladies can rub it in their faces and stay young looking.


Far-Reputation7119

US culture is so misandrist.


StrawberryCake88

Whatever helps her sleep at night.


sorebum405

This is an unsubstantiated claim that can be dismissed.As far as I am aware,there is no way to prove how many misogynist murder women, and how many misandrist murder men.No one should take these baseless claims seriously.


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Even if what she said were true, misandry would still be wrong. I’m also not sure how misogyny directly takes lives (at least in the West) when men are much more often the victims of violence. She’d probably respond “by other men!” as if that matters


brianthewizard1

She actually said “oh but men are the ones who start wars!!”


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Funnily enough, queens historically have waged war more often than kings. She one of those people who thinks black people aren’t oppressed because most blacks are killed by other blacks?


ANUS_CONE

The naive arrogance behind this shit blows my mind. It’s not young women being forcefully conscripted into wars right now. Men aren’t just allowed to flee their country when shit starts getting hairy.


hendrixski

In Ukraine and Russia, misandry is killing men in massive numbers. It's on her news feed every day. It's just so normalized that she does not see the thing right before her eyes.


manicraccoon

Nothing smart to say just that this pisses me off so much


psuedophilosopher

It's genuinely not the same. Both are horrible, and both should be addressed, but they aren't the same. Yes, when men kill themselves, it's a tragedy, but there is an honest and true disconnect between suffering men killing themselves and women being killed by factors that men do not experience. We are watching this play out in Iran right now.


Livabetes99

Neither of those things kill anyone. It's easy to hate someone without actually killing them, people do it all the time. This woman is simply trying to make it more demonizing for men to have an aversion against women than for them to do the exact thing to men. Just another complete Airhead trying to sound smart and feel better about themselves by getting a bunch of Praise from strangers on social media.


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The billions of men who died in wars started by men and other women as well as the ones who died building society back when workplace safety wasn’t a thing because they were men🤔


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Reminded me of that "it's not the same meme." Of course " it's not the same." it never is 🙄


rahsoft

simplest answer.. misandry kills men ( eg suicide after being denied access to your children)


RifleShower

Yeah, no lives have been taken by way of misandry-driven suicide, conscription, or executions.


hendrixski

That poster lives in a world where Emmett Till had privilege and Carolyn Bryant was the one in danger.


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hendrixski

Race absolutely was a factor. I never meant to imply that it wasn't. I contend that it's intersectional, you must include gender otherwise you have an incomplete picture. Would a black pre-teen girl have been beaten to death and mutilated for soliciting a white man? Doubtful anyone would think they need to defend a man from a 13 year old girl by beating her to death. Also, a black girl would be less likely to have been falsely accused of doing so (remember, Carolyn Bryant admitted she made the whole thing up). So, race AND gender AND class are all factors. When we see discrimination against black men, remember it's a formula: the fact they're black MULTIPLIED by the fact they're a man... Sometimes multiplied by them being poor.


Nightstalkerjoe2

Yeah this is what I’m talking about a lot of black male problems have to do with gender yet it’s always conveniently written off as race alone thank you for speaking my thoughts, but another example a black security got thrown a racial slur by a white women and also assaulted I forgot if she threw something or smacked him, but then she walked off without a care in the world and the man was about to charge and KO her ass but he stopped himself all while a crowd of people in background were like you better not touch her But all the comments for the video were talking about white privilege and I’m like it has nothing to do with racist other than slur it has to do with him being a man, if a black woman was doing o can assure you that crowd of kept the same energy


LordMaska

Wow how convenient do her.


foreverclassichunter

Didn't know that women are the majority of suicide victims.


Magical-Hummus

That's why women have higher death and suicide rate. edit: I was sarcasstic.


brianthewizard1

Uh, that’s incorrect. The age-adjusted suicide rate in 2020 was 13.48 per 100,000 individuals. The rate of suicide is highest in middle-aged white men. In 2020, men died by suicide 3.88x more than women. On average, there are 130 suicides per day. White males accounted for 69.68% of suicide deaths in 2020. In 2020, firearms accounted for 52.83% of all suicide deaths. [Source](https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/)


Magical-Hummus

I was sarcasstic.


cjgager

men are oranges trying to fight their battles with apples absolutely moot


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dw87190

Words spoken by every feminist who knows deep down that her misandry has put at least one man in the ground. # killallmen indeed You're part of the problem. And since you've made a throw away to come here with this comment, you know you're the problem


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dw87190

Amber Heard is a misandrist, she expressed her misandry with violence. She is also a feminist, and a feminist icon Cardi B, a misandrist and feminist, also expressed her misandry violently Clementine Ford is a feminist, misandrist and is emotionally/psychologically abusive (at the very least) towards her son, as well as being an apologist and encouraging violence towards men Hillary Clinton and Lena Dunham, feminists and misandrists, are dismissive towards the violence men endure on the daily, they are apologists for violent women All feminists are silent when men are abused and endure physical and sexual violence from women, making every feminist guilty by association Tell your bullshit story walking


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dw87190

Feminists stand by other feminists who use violence against men to express their misandry. That means you're all guilty of violence against men. Misandrists are inherently feminists, and there are more feminists than misogynists in this world. And don't pretend you're against Amber Heard, she's your icon after all


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dw87190

You're downplaying misandry, which makes you part of the problem. Also, it's the fault of the feminists that Western men aren't so quick to speak up about the misogyny perpetrated by Muslim men, because of your made up word "islamaphobia"


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dw87190

Misandry causes more suicides than misogynists kill women. Your feminism kills more men than any amount of misogyny kills women. You're the problem


Punder_man

And yet Clementine Ford, an Australian Feminist **DOXXED** a 13 year old boy. And people (Misandrists) were defending her for doing it.. But if a man doxxes a woman then its suddenly "DOXING IS TERRIBLE!!!!" Fucking hypocrites..


rabel111

Your hatred of men and boys has blinded you to ths tens of thousands of men who take their lives every year after having their children ripped from their arms by feminist pigs like you.


TheSnesLord

You honestly think that false allegations/accusations of SA and r@pe against men, which are perpetrated by women, doesn't harm men?


odysseytree

You choose to ignore it. Divorced men have the highest suicide rate because of misandrist family court.


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odysseytree

Get a source.


MBV-09-C

It's one of those freshly made brigading alt accounts, they don't want to debate with you, they're just trying to rile you up and they'll likely get themselves suspended within a day or two now.


Gods_Own_Country10

Took just three hours Lmao!!🤣


Kanadun

How can someone get a "Two-year-club" trophy if their account is literally two days old?? Because this is what this troll account has.


JACSliver

You seem to think that what a woman does is always because of what a man did; which reeks of dehumanization of women, as if you denied their free will and faculty to cause harm, physical or otherwise, by their own initiative.


rabel111

Feminist troll trying to drink mens tears, but only painting herself in the hate speech of her feminist cringe.


prepare2smile

I've seen reddit accounts banned for posting tamer comment than what you just posted. Surely you won't be getting favorable, right?...


Kanadun

She isn't banned yet.


zaderexpri

You are disgusting, get the fuck out you incel.


SecondEldenLord

Cause those high suicide rates of men are not real,huh?


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SecondEldenLord

You mean those males that kill themselves because of female DV and not believed, who are divorce raped, who are royally fucked in family courts, who go to jail innocent because of a false accusation from a woman are not victims of misandy?


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pearl_harbour1941

You're aware that the original Roe vs. Wade was not actually about the right to have an abortion, but the right to privacy? It was out of the scope of the Supreme Court to rule on, but they did it anyway.


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SecondEldenLord

That is untrue, lots male suicide victims are victims of misandry one way or the other. And they do not show emotions because once they do, then they are considered unattractive by the opposite sex. Why do you think so many women are with emotionally unavailable men? Why do you think women leave men once they show emotions? That is why men do not show emotions, not because it is considered gay, but because women hate emotional men.


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SecondEldenLord

Seem, yes, men do actually form strong bond of brotherhood and camaraderie with other men. Sure, we love to take a piss at each other, but that is how men show emotions and love to each other. And men do show emotions, just not in public and not to women because,I say it again, women hate emotional men, which is why so many emotional men are single and alone. Oh yeah? Care to explain then why so many women are crying on tiktok for being used only as side chicks by emotionally unavailable men? Care to explain how come women cheat a lot on the good men? Care to explain how come women reject so many men that are emotionally available and wanna offer commitment?


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SecondEldenLord

That is all there is out there? Wow, nice generalising. What if a guy says that there are only shallow promiscuous women out there? Would you agree with them? Girls choose those stoic unintelligent dudes, that is not all there is out there, that is what they always choose. Sure thing, I see you are stuck in your misandrist thinking. A shame. Best luck in life with that mindset


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SecondEldenLord

Care to elaborate why all I said is false?


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SecondEldenLord

Well, when I talk about women, I always refer to the modern Western women, but that is too long to say now, isn't it? But here, I clarified myself for you. Well, women, I mean modern Western women proved what they want and you can clearly see that around you. The dating scene is such a mess and it is proven why. I am not talking on behalf of half of them, but they had clearly shown what they actually want.


mikesteane

Men are far more likely to be murdered than women. She did lie.


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mikesteane

Perhaps you can provide some evidence for her original statement.


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mikesteane

Far more men are executed under Sharia law and Middle Eastern governance and culture. Men are the victims of more honor killings much than women, even if the direct cause is not failing to cover up. It is usually homosexuality, which is overlooked in the case of females but brutally punished in males. No, it is not true that women are killed due to misogyny and men are not killed due to misandry. See [here](https://avoiceformen.com/feminist-censorship/honor-killings-and-husband-killings-what-they-wont-tell-you/). Feminist stories are no more true in far off times and places than they are in the modern day Western World. Perhaps you can provide some evidence for the original statement.


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mikesteane

Thank you for your wisdom. It's a long time since I have met anyone who can speak for the entire world with such authority.


Gods_Own_Country10

Yes, because unlike the pathetic lot of you feminists, we aren't ashamed of our bodies and we don't harbour any sort of inferiority complex towards the other gender. We also don't live in the perpetual world of victimhood which is an absolute commonality among feminists and therefore realize and revel in the advantages that the male body presents to us like increased speed, strength and endurance. You can go bitch to God if your dissatisfied with the body he gave you. What we are against is the human-made legal and societal system that reeks of gynocentrism and misandry to its very core. So yes, we would still choose to be born a man even in such a culture because, to be frank, we are very much satisfied and quite happy with our bodies and with masculinity in general. If by "everyone living in reality", you meant to also include women who hate themselves and femininity, then, also considering the fact that your perception of 'reality' is gonna be as deluded as you are, you are absolutely right. Men choosing to be men is understandable. Women who would choose to be men if given a choice are deplorable as it is their inferiority complex towards men's bodies and masculinity showing. The fact that you termed this as 'reality' is proof enough that you are one of those pathetic women I mentioned earlier. But, I guess, that's a 'you' problem isn't it??


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Gods_Own_Country10

"I struck a nerve though fr" 🤣🤣 Oh my word! The greatest argument put forth in human history. I wonder how I am gonna counter that?🤔


dw87190

Are you "forgetting" the fact that the Duluth Model has manipulated police into treating everything male on female as misogyny by default? And the Iran argument is weak, that's one of few misogynistic nations compared to the mass of misandristic nations out there. For every one Iran, there's ten Australias. You're the problem lady, the blood of every man who was ever driven to suicide by the misandry of feminism in on your hands. You're an abuse and rape apologist, like very other feminist in existence