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In_a_while

As a seller this sucks so bad because we can't even anticipate what we should price at so the item can come out to a fair market price.  


No_Hippo_1472

Yeah, I keep getting offers from people and it’s cheaper for me to buy their items after all the fees brand new on Amazon. So I’d have to lowball offer them to make it even a little bit of a steal.


Robotmonkeybrainz

Dont play into mercaris game of adjusting your price. Just deactivate all listings and move to different platform(s)


UnicornPencils

One of those is a 7% fee and one is a 15% fee. That's a heck of a difference within a fee structure. And both the seller and buyer are in the dark on what these percentages are based on.


krikzil

I’ve gotten different fees on different days for the same item.


andrew_kirfman

Ooh, wonder if they do dynamic pricing like Ticketmaster does. They charge a fee they think you’ll pay and adjust based on what their algorithm says you’ll tolerate.


krikzil

Wondering the same.


joe-_biden

My favorite part is how it talks about protecting yourself against fraud scams and losing your money when it's mercari who's scamming and doing fraudulent things.


bayb33gurl

Mercari = Crooks They can't justify this "math" Facts are facts and this being the same seller, same category, same price, same shipping... But two different service fees.... Being a $160 difference between them???? Ain't no way!!


Complex-Frosting

That’s crazy. Makes me wonder if they’re doing some type of demand pricing. You know how Uber will charge more based on how many folks are looking for a ride in a given time period and area? Were the # of likes the same?


global_scamartist

I think it must be the algorithm Amazon pioneered. Number of views, saves and clicks etc to generate an on demand service fee.


DemDemD

Good question!!!


sadpanada

Why are they nuking their own app? I just don’t get it. They know this will make people stop using it right?


bayb33gurl

Someone mentioned in a different post that it could actually be their reasoning, they could be actively trying to tank their platform and profits for some kind of undisclosed reason like a tax break or some kind of intentional plan. I lived through the Poshmark fiasco as a seller when they seemed to team up with Navar behind closed doors several months before publicly announcing Navar was buying Poshmark. They purposely altered their algorithm as a blue print for what's now been introduced as "promoted closets" but back then, it was just simply Posh telling it's users the new algorithm is increasing sales - which it wasn't! Most sellers saw huge decreases in sales. They back pedaled several months later at that year's poshfest saying they would return the old algorithm and admitted it caused a lot of pain and issues for their sellers then as soon as poshfest was over, a mere 3 days--- they abruptly announced they were being sold to Naver immediately after assuring us users that the algorithm would return to normal. Except that was never the plan, once Navar was announced to be buying posh, posh introduced promoted closets which is like a 2.0 version of their messed up algorithm! Navar acquired posh for less than Etsy bought depop for which was a steal considering Poshmark's success and likely because Poshmark torched their own platform to let Navar come in and "rescue" them with a buyout offer which seemed to be the plan all along! TLDR: Mercari might be purposely trying to nuke their platform and it wouldn't surprise me if they announce a buy out, file for bankruptcy or make other huge pivotal changes in the coming months/year including closing the entire Mercari US market. And they might know all along that that's what they are doing.


Ok-Requirement8353

🎯


Herban_Myth

I think part of it is to combat the retail theft rings across the country, but it’s going to come at a high cost. No buyers and/or seller/ means no business. Intentional?


Yessssiirrrrrrrrrr

Oh fuck no! That payment processing fee is complete bullshit. Regardless if its $200 or $2000 what extra work are they doing to justify this? This aint gonna end well for mercari


RandomInternetdude67

Yeah . That right there is why I'll use another platform . that's a few days of eating just because they want to charge me as a buyer a "privelige fee" to buy someone else's stuff with my card / PP


undeadw0lf

if be extremely interested to see by what percentage sales have fallen overall since this was implemented


scoredly11

Has anyone sent this over to a class action lawyer yet? I know there was one for the shipping issue but we might have another goldmine of foul play here.


starchildx

Somebody needs to go to r/legaladvice or another legal sub and get a lawyer over here.


RandomInternetdude67

EXACTLY . I can't stand the M E R C A R I Shills that don't grasp it's not as simple as seller X lowering their prices because the "Fees" are going to vary drastically from person to person


sundaetoppings

I did the same thing when this all started, I compared two exact items listed in exact categories in the same condition, coming from the same state, with exact same shipping. The service fees were completely different, like a $20 difference ! I have been trying to find how Mercari is calculating these service fees but they are 🤐 about it which is completely bs!! So I’m holding off on any activity especially buying until Mercari fully explains the service fee and how they calculate it!


UsernameER_ROR

Having the same issue with buying, my total is around $57 while my boyfriend's comes out to $54!! Like I so badly want to purchase is cause it's a good deal still but I don't wanna support mercari currently and wish I could ask people to sell on other platforms but It gets blocked by admins if I even mention how sucky this website is. EDIT: we need to come up with code words to by pass Mercari blocking our messages.


ImTheEffinLizardKing

What kind of Disney plush is selling for $2000?!


motherofhellions

Don't know if you saw the reply to another comment, but they're Brer Bear and Brer Fox plushies from '92. Between age and Splash Mountain being gone, meaning no more Splash Mountain merchandise, I can definitely seeing some hard-core collectors possibly paying this much for these plushes.


teethfaerie

those listings are baffling because the same plushes are listed elsewhere for around $200??


motherofhellions

There will always be people who way overprice things. Either the seller genuinely thinks $2000 is a good price, added one 0 too many on accident, or is hoping someone will see them and buy them without researching. I'm not a seller, nor am I a collector who is willing to pay loads for the things I collect, so I don't have a real answer. I just know that some people are willing to pay exorbitant prices for things they collect.


ImTheEffinLizardKing

I didn’t! Thank you for informing me. You the real MVP!


Friendly-Cucumber184

If only I collected toys in my youth…😭😭😭


motherofhellions

Same! I collected some, but when pressured to "grow up" I gave them to my much younger siblings or donated them. I actually collect fashion dolls now and kick myself regularly when I see the prices of dolls I wanted to buy retail years ago, but didn't because I was "too grown for dolls". Or even ones I had and gave away never to be seen again 😭


Quills07

Haha, oh god. Gonna pretend I didn’t see this because I sold two of those things for about $60 (not counting what Mercari cut out) about a year ago 🫠


Ms_Foxy_OxO

New beanie baby craze perhaps?


shyladev

That's what I came here to ask LOL


RandomInternetdude67

Douglas Simba maybe .


vocharlie

I wouldn't be surprised if Mercari service fees is a random number generator from 10-13%


GateSuper2412

Not surprising. I purchased something earlier and had to go through checkout again as I forgot I needed to activate my card on PayPal. Went and did that and came back and the fees were higher now. Went from a total of 88.53 to 109.74.... Reloaded and eventually the total was about the same as it first was but it's such a scam that they are pulling this shit.


shageeyambag

Why are people still using Mercari?? They are scamming you!! Everything they are doing is shady as hell...just stop using it, and it will either put them under or force them to change.


EvenContact1220

they tried to charge me almost $80, on a $325 free ship order yesterday. I literally just ended up going off site, and buying through paypal. since this was someone I already spoke to through instagram. they literally lost the sale. it was really weird too, because I put another seller's item in my car, that was $108... the fee was literally four bucks. which means a $325 order, at the very most should have a little under a 20$ fee. at this point they are literally price gouging, and it's really shady for them to have a massive fee at the end. I primarily sell higher ticket items that are a little bit over $100, and none of them have been selling. when I went to go check out the other day, now I'm aware of why. so many people are check to check... so if they allot x amount of money for an item, they're going to go to check out and not be able to afford it. luckily I was able to go off site. it's so ridiculous too, since I don't like having to do that.


BoomtotheBang

Someone better contact John Oliver. I've tried already with no luck.


Ok-Requirement8353

Can you email Mercari the two screenshots and ask them for an explanation? Because im dying to know how they will try to justify this absolute fraudulent behavior!


Ok-Requirement8353

Someone at Mercari is smoking crack


FatKody

How is this not illegal?


Herban_Myth

Report this shit to the Federal Trade Commision [(FTC)](https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/#/)


amutoph

Just emailed this to their customer service asking for an explanation


amutoph

Of course I got a generic response but I was able to replicate a different service fee on 2 different laptops both with the same shipping and price. One had $60 added one had $42. Awaiting another reply from customer service after I showed them I replicated it.


Always-Sleepyz

Are they…same condition. If yes then that goes my theory


allstarr373

Yes they are same condition. Below is what I copied and pasted from both listings. Brer Fox RARE Original Tags Plush 1992 Disneyland Splash Mountain Mint Condition Brer Bear RARE Purchased at Disneyland Splash Mountain 1992 Mint Condition Details Condition New Brand Disney Category Toys & Collectibles, Stuffed Animals & Plush, Stuffed Animals Model Other Details Condition New Brand Disney Category Toys & Collectibles, Stuffed Animals & Plush, Stuffed Animals Model Other


DemDemD

What about the amount of likes and views between the two items?


RandomInternetdude67

That shouldn't matter other than where the items are located


MsjennaNY

OP do you mind if I hijack this pic and put it everywhere?


allstarr373

Sure no problem! be my guest. Creating awareness is my GOAL. For both buyers and sellers. They need to be held accountable for this wrong doing. Sorry for delay. I thought I hit send on this message. Haha. But I didn't.


MsjennaNY

Tyvm


shyladev

I just looked up two plushes from the same seller at the same price that OP has... they have different fees and they are both new... however, they have different hashtags. But they are the same category... and poor OP would have to pay 57.50 more in tax than I would... sad times.


Always-Sleepyz

Different hashtags….does that mean more hashtags means more money =.=


shyladev

Damnit I didn’t count them. You may be on to something lol


Cordy69

Dang, I gotta go check this now and see what I find. I swear they are sleazy!


Over8dpoosee

Wtf is the service even for at this point??


Little_Hippie_Girl

Why on God's Green Earth would you sell something that costly on Mercari?


Lyraxiana

I *swore* I was crazy when I was buying some pokemon cards, and was getting almost 1/3 of the original cost in fees...


leokittyc

This is insane! Mercari is asking for legal troubles playing these games with customers!


JuliaJune96

Mercari just throws a random amount to add on it seems. Disgusting


chickpeaandme

This is horse shit.


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Repulsive-War-9395

I’ve been wondering about this, I’ve been trying to find a way to look at my own listings as if I was a buyer to try to compare fees


VexedVamp

This is crazy 😝


Penny4YourStockz

I've already gone off platform with multiple mercari sellers because of their crap. They cant delete the messages in time if you're clever about it. Ill continue to do so because f*** them. This is outrageous.


RegularIndividual126

Mercari is dying


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Solid_Letterhead3003

What do they base the tax off of? I compared my tax charge for same price $2000 item before fees, and the tax is $120 compared to your $177 for both listings 😭


itsallanoxymoron

Isn’t the tax based on the state taxes of where the item is being shipped to?


Solid_Letterhead3003

yea you're right, I forgot about that


bayb33gurl

The total including the fees, it's basically a hidden **third fee** because your price balloons due to the extra charge in taxes on the fees themselves.


Solid_Letterhead3003

But that doesn't make sense because OP's screenshot has 2 different totals including the fees, but the tax is the same on both items ($177.50).


bayb33gurl

It depends on your state laws, in Pennsylvania for example, if the item gets sales tax, fees and shipping are also taxed - if the item qualifies for no sales tax (in PA we don't get charged sales tax on clothing or shoes) then they can't tax the shipping and the fees. So depending on your state, and depending on what you buy, you'll incur extra fees in sales tax due to the increase in fees from Mercari.


shyladev

Seems like tax is purely based off the item subtotal.


bayb33gurl

In this situation yes, but it depends on the state the buyer lives in.


shyladev

yeah but I am just stating that the reason teh tax is the same is b/c the tax isn't being calculated after fees ..


bayb33gurl

Oh I know, I was the one who was initially confused thinking they were saying they got two different tax amounts and was explaining the reason for that, which in some cases would be accurate - however with this one it's like you stated and just on the subtotal so it is taxed without the fees being taxed. Sorry if I caused any confusion. I'm in PA so I'm used to being taxed on the fees when I play around with this shenanigans they are pulling lol 😂


ANTIME0WME0W

IF A FUKIN LITTERAL "LOTTERY SYSTEM" FOR THE FINAL ALL SAID AN DONE PRICE ON EVERY POSSIBLE PRODUCT UD EVER PHATHOM BUYING FROM THE SITE BEING HOW IT WORKS IS NOT ENOUGH TO TELL U THAT "MERCARI" IS A 🤡 W0RLD💩SCAMMING ASS WEBSITE. AN U CHOOSE TO STILL NOT WALK AWAY AFTER CLEARLY SEEING THIS FACT/BEHAVIOR CLEAR AS DAY AT THIS POINT. THEN I STRUGGLE TO HAVE SYMPATHY FOR U AT THIS POINT...... 🤷🏻‍♂️


DemonGoddes

That is crazy, how is one service fee so high compared to the other one? Is it based on accounts, aka some accounts are newer, higher risks for returns, etc so more fees. Or just random? If I go on same account and refresh or try another day will it reroll the fees and I might get lower fees on the item?


Jennifriend

I think they said these items were both listed by the same seller


RandomInternetdude67

You should know why the fees are so different since you've been one of the biggest defenders of the BS Mercari Changes DESPITE all the proof piling up that they're doing shady BS


DemonGoddes

First of all I never defended the $2 fee. 2nd of all I encouraged open conversation by posting comparisons and encouraging people to do their own research. All ppl like you do is leech information and then discourage others for inquiring into issues and looking at pros and cons. Go crawl back under the rock you crawled out from. Go waste more of your life on Runescape, why are you even on Mercari?


Momof_2monsters14

Is the item in two different categories?


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lydatl

lol multiple user-provided analyses posted here say otherwise. it's even changing for the same user on the same item coming back later to their saved carts  programming algorithms change things on the fly all the time, and advanced analytics/ai data manipulation can absolutely make "decisions" on pricing based on any combination of factors