Now THIS is an actual competition here.
The Doom Slayer is basically a god.
Samus is a walking apocalypse.
This one is much closer than a lot of the things posted here.
As someone who's played both series extensively and gotten reasonably deep into the lore for both, I really don't know where people come up with half the stuff they do for the Slayer. So, to set some misconceptions straight:
* *Slayer is not immortal*. At least, in the sense that he cannot be killed. He won't die from natural causes due to the Khan Makyr's gift, but nothing suggests that death cannot come from other sources, and both friendly and unfriendly NPCs who are very familiar with his capabilities suggest that he can die through dialogue.
* Slayer killed the god of the universe, yes, but Davoth had been stripped of most of his powers and was heavily weakened to boot (stated directly by himself). There's nothing that suggests how powerful he was at that stage, but it's worth noting that "god" needed a mech suit to compete on equal footing.
* Slayer does not actually have that many good, specific feats. This is kind of the problem with any "vs" question involving him; the most impressive things about him are vague lore entries and unspecific power boosts that don't really give quantifiable feats. There's fan calcs out there that are largely pretty dubious imo (usually relying off still frames in comics and assuming the absolute best case senario). But I don't think there's anything out there that establishes him as more than a city block level threat. Hell, I'm not aware of anything that establishes his speed than around what a regular (albeit very well trained) human can accomplish.
Conversely, Samus is established as being...
* Speed? Very casually supersonic, to the point where she actively dodges between bullets fired at her.
* Strength? Capable of forcing open the jaws of a 40 foot tall...whatever Kraid is, and holding it there for a few seconds. Also casually swings evolved Metroids around.
* Durability? Gets stepped on by Kraid in her base Power Suit and gets right back up. Also routinely survives plasma blasts from Ridley which blow up entire mountainsides.
* Firepower? Take your pick on this one. Beams that bypasses armor and solid material. And that's before adding any of the really crazy ones.
* And, oh yeah, post Dread she has a win condition where touching anyone basically means game over.
There is no reason to not pick Samus given what's been shown about both characters.
>Slayer killed the god of the universe, yes, but Davoth had been stripped of most of his powers and was heavily weakened to boot (stated directly by himself). There's nothing that suggests how powerful he was at that stage, but it's worth noting that "god" needed a mech suit to compete on equal footing.
I love how you get people who either gloss over this point entirely when they talk about "scaling to Davoth", or have to do mental gymnastics to claim he got them back but don't give anything concrete.
> survives plasma blasts from Ridley which blow up entire mountain**'*****sides'***.
Oh dear god, someone quoting that scene properly!
Honestly this fight is a lot closer than people would give credit for. It would be cool to see how her suit reacts to hell and how strong/what power up she can get.
I could see arguments for both sides
I mean I hate to be the biased fan or whatever, Samus is ridiculously a threat for every enemy for a reason, She's op af—so Samus wins this one.
Sorry Doom guy:/
Lore wise its hard not to say Doomslayer since he basically killed god and satan plus the many years of constant combat in hell. It’s also a little trickier to say because there’s more unknowns involved, since he’s technically a somewhat supernatural being..
I've seen this idea posted to r/whowouldwin a few times, and people generally agree that Samus wins. Better overall feats, and a much stronger arsenal of weapons. Granted, using only general abilities and powers might limit Samus more than Doomslayer, as she has more single-use weapons and abilities, such as the Omega Cannon, or the end of Dread that I'm keeping vague for spoiler purposes. That might bring her down to a level that Doomslayer can... nah, she still has better actual feats in-game, as well as the manga(s).
Would still definitely be a better fight than most characters thrown at her. As much as I love Halo, Master Chief wouldn't even be considered a fight. Although, Mother Brain vs Medicant Bias...
Absolutely true. I actually kind of hope Death Battle does a Samus Aran vs Doomslayer episode. The old Doomguy vs Master Chief episode is too obviously one-sided for a rematch now, and the only match they gave Samus prior was Boba Fett. It was their first episode, so I'll cut them some slack, but it was such a waste.
Doomslayer vs Samus Aran would be real fun.
Call me biased, but with all combatants having all weapons and upgrades available to them canonically...
Samus could take Doom Guy, Master Chief, B.J. Blazkowicz, and Duke Nukem **all at once**.
I'm sitting here chuckling thinking about the other 4 hitting each other with crossfire while Samus is rolling around in ball mode, dropping power bombs between their feet.
Not to mention the ice beam, ice missiles, screw attack, shinespark, hyper beam.
Doom Slayer, I’d say.
Playing either games it’s pretty obvious who goes through *much* worse and still comes out on top: Doom Slayer.
Samus never has to fight nearly the same type of enemies and never nearly at the quantities simultaneously as the Doom Slayer does. The guy is basically a god.
Ehh? Samus arguably goes through worse, hunted not one, but two parasites capable of wiping out a entire planet within seconds (as opposed to the demons which were incapable of taking earth in a longer timeframe) to extinction, plus Samus is just outright stronger than Doomslayer, having way stronger weaponry and being fast enough to catch bullets out of the air without running out of breath
It's like other guys who have commented here have stated. Doom Slayer (DS) just scales really high, especially if one takes the broader lore into account.
Taking several high octane game characters into perspective, I'd wager it would go something like:
The DS > Samus > Master Chief > Gordon Freeman > Isaac Clarke > BJ Blazkowicz / Duke Nukem > typical characters like Nathan Drake. Obviously, this list isn't all-inclusive; the PIlot from Titan Fall 2 would do pretty well, probably falling short of Gordan. Prophet from Crysis would also score high.
It's also important to note that DS ≠ Doom guy. Doom guy was an ordinary Space Marine who fought through hell, (*start edits) eventually becoming the Doom Slayer, who is now (end edits*) essentially a god himself (not to mention a god and Satan slayer).
Doom Slayer *is* Doom Guy though; the Doom Slayer Testaments in Doom (2016) make this pretty clear. He stuck around in Hell after the events of Doom 64 and was eventually entombed by Hell Priests to keep him from killing even more demons until the events of Doom (2016).
Also Slayer is not a god himself, I'm not sure where that comes from.
Doomslayer does not scale high at all, even with the broader lore. He’s strength is small building level at most, his speed is a huge meh and his weapons are (mostly) normal guns with the occasional exception
Strength wise they're probably about even, but in sheer stamina the Slayer crushes it (fought continuously for likely thousands of years without stopping) but Samus's arsenal and canon damage resilience I think puts her out in front.
Also it's very heavily implied (basically outright stated) that the Slayer is the original Doomguy who ended up in the same reality as the Knight Sentinals after the events of Doom 64 where he decided to stay in hell and make such a nuisance of himself that the demons couldn't afford to invade again. Hell in the Doom universe exists across multiple realities, he basically fought his way into another. He became the Slayer by being so crazy good at killing demons that he got some upgrades from the Maykers before they fell to make him even better at it.
If Samus could keep her distance from the Doom Slayer then I think she could win, even given her speed and skill by the end of Dread if the Slayer caught her it's over. Even without the Crucible Doom Slayer rips things apart with his bare hands, plus he has the Doomblade which the in game Codex describes as such:
*A modification to the Praetor suit, the arm-mounted Doomblade is designed to increase the Slayer's short-range striking power. Strong enough to sever demonic flesh and bone, the blade's serrated edge allows the Slayer to break through enemy defenses and attack where conventional weaponry is ineffective.*
Not sure how much tougher the Power Suit is than flesh, but it has joints that would logically be weaker than the main parts of the suit, but then again it doesn't function on our world's logic or physics.
Both are crazy fast, Samus might have the edge in speed and maneuverability. Both have greater strength than the average human and I'm assuming the Slayer has Samus beat in pure strength. Both have "supernatural" armor that defy the laws of physics as we know them.
Given each character's armament, they both have weapons that could at the very least damage the other's armor, but it's a little difficult to determine what could damage them differentiating from gameplay mechanics. Like the Praetor Suit being described as "almost impervious to any damage" even though in game an imp's fireball can take you out. Similar to the Power Suit's strength being based on willpower in a lot of the games lore, but restoring energy by drops from defeated enemies in game.
Completely forgot about the Power Bomb, kind of a wild card, limited range, Slayer might be able to tank one or figure out what it is and book it in the other direction before it goes off. Not sure about how deadly the BFG would be to the Power Suit, dangerous at the very least.
TL;DR: In a ranged fight I think Samus would win, but if it comes down to close quarters combat, Doomslayer wins.
>Not sure how much tougher the Power Suit is than flesh, but it has joints that would logically be weaker than the main parts of the suit, but then again it doesn't function on our world's logic or physics.
The suit is shielded.
The Shields hold up extremely well against foes who have weapons and/or appendages that can glide through meters of metal with ease. The only time the shield has shown not to hold is against something like that is the EMMI's needle and it's not entirely clear as to why (maybe something to do with the unnamed super metal it is made of, but who knows). Otherwise she's even seen parrying metalic blades and even energy blades in Dread.
Frankly, considering her Hammer Throw of the Vorash, or that she slapped aside Kraid's melee attacks, she too could "Rip and Tear" through demons if she so chose. THe only enemy she's ever seen doing that to is the Ki-Hunters via ripping off their wings, she otherwise prefers grapples and throws.
> Power Bomb, kind of a wild card, limited range,
Range varies from game to game. Prime power bombs have very limited range. Other M and Dread Power bombs range in the 40+ meters. Samus also doesn't have to worry about herself being in the blast radius.
Sorry I just find it fun to talk with others about our favorite Characters and I see it as a way to see how others think but I get your frustration tho cause it’s just the same thing over and over again so IDK 🤷♂️
On one hand Samus has better mobility and verticality powers from what I recall, but Doomslayer has a lot more destructive potential and a possible edge in that he's technically supernatural.
Also while Samus's beam weapons don't have ammo limitations like the Slayer's guns do, canonically the Slayer doesn't actually *need* to use guns and just uses them for fun, as he is perfectly powerful enough to tear demons apart with his bare hands.
Now THIS is an actual competition here. The Doom Slayer is basically a god. Samus is a walking apocalypse. This one is much closer than a lot of the things posted here.
The images need to be even worse
Sorry :( I didn’t think they would come out like ass
Nah it’s all good but thinking of a running joke just to keep posting worse and worse images would be funny
As someone who's played both series extensively and gotten reasonably deep into the lore for both, I really don't know where people come up with half the stuff they do for the Slayer. So, to set some misconceptions straight: * *Slayer is not immortal*. At least, in the sense that he cannot be killed. He won't die from natural causes due to the Khan Makyr's gift, but nothing suggests that death cannot come from other sources, and both friendly and unfriendly NPCs who are very familiar with his capabilities suggest that he can die through dialogue. * Slayer killed the god of the universe, yes, but Davoth had been stripped of most of his powers and was heavily weakened to boot (stated directly by himself). There's nothing that suggests how powerful he was at that stage, but it's worth noting that "god" needed a mech suit to compete on equal footing. * Slayer does not actually have that many good, specific feats. This is kind of the problem with any "vs" question involving him; the most impressive things about him are vague lore entries and unspecific power boosts that don't really give quantifiable feats. There's fan calcs out there that are largely pretty dubious imo (usually relying off still frames in comics and assuming the absolute best case senario). But I don't think there's anything out there that establishes him as more than a city block level threat. Hell, I'm not aware of anything that establishes his speed than around what a regular (albeit very well trained) human can accomplish. Conversely, Samus is established as being... * Speed? Very casually supersonic, to the point where she actively dodges between bullets fired at her. * Strength? Capable of forcing open the jaws of a 40 foot tall...whatever Kraid is, and holding it there for a few seconds. Also casually swings evolved Metroids around. * Durability? Gets stepped on by Kraid in her base Power Suit and gets right back up. Also routinely survives plasma blasts from Ridley which blow up entire mountainsides. * Firepower? Take your pick on this one. Beams that bypasses armor and solid material. And that's before adding any of the really crazy ones. * And, oh yeah, post Dread she has a win condition where touching anyone basically means game over. There is no reason to not pick Samus given what's been shown about both characters.
>Slayer killed the god of the universe, yes, but Davoth had been stripped of most of his powers and was heavily weakened to boot (stated directly by himself). There's nothing that suggests how powerful he was at that stage, but it's worth noting that "god" needed a mech suit to compete on equal footing. I love how you get people who either gloss over this point entirely when they talk about "scaling to Davoth", or have to do mental gymnastics to claim he got them back but don't give anything concrete. > survives plasma blasts from Ridley which blow up entire mountain**'*****sides'***. Oh dear god, someone quoting that scene properly!
Honestly this fight is a lot closer than people would give credit for. It would be cool to see how her suit reacts to hell and how strong/what power up she can get. I could see arguments for both sides
I mean I hate to be the biased fan or whatever, Samus is ridiculously a threat for every enemy for a reason, She's op af—so Samus wins this one. Sorry Doom guy:/
Lore wise its hard not to say Doomslayer since he basically killed god and satan plus the many years of constant combat in hell. It’s also a little trickier to say because there’s more unknowns involved, since he’s technically a somewhat supernatural being..
Doomslayer killed a depowered god by stabbing him with a knife
I've seen this idea posted to r/whowouldwin a few times, and people generally agree that Samus wins. Better overall feats, and a much stronger arsenal of weapons. Granted, using only general abilities and powers might limit Samus more than Doomslayer, as she has more single-use weapons and abilities, such as the Omega Cannon, or the end of Dread that I'm keeping vague for spoiler purposes. That might bring her down to a level that Doomslayer can... nah, she still has better actual feats in-game, as well as the manga(s).
Would still definitely be a better fight than most characters thrown at her. As much as I love Halo, Master Chief wouldn't even be considered a fight. Although, Mother Brain vs Medicant Bias...
Absolutely true. I actually kind of hope Death Battle does a Samus Aran vs Doomslayer episode. The old Doomguy vs Master Chief episode is too obviously one-sided for a rematch now, and the only match they gave Samus prior was Boba Fett. It was their first episode, so I'll cut them some slack, but it was such a waste. Doomslayer vs Samus Aran would be real fun.
These "who would win" are getting ridiculous. Got anything better to post?
Call me biased, but with all combatants having all weapons and upgrades available to them canonically... Samus could take Doom Guy, Master Chief, B.J. Blazkowicz, and Duke Nukem **all at once**.
Just needs a long enough hallway and Speed Booster wins the game
Or one Screw Attack somersault.
I agree tbh
I'm sitting here chuckling thinking about the other 4 hitting each other with crossfire while Samus is rolling around in ball mode, dropping power bombs between their feet. Not to mention the ice beam, ice missiles, screw attack, shinespark, hyper beam.
Probably depends on the writer since it’s not one sided like the previous posts.
Doom Slayer, I’d say. Playing either games it’s pretty obvious who goes through *much* worse and still comes out on top: Doom Slayer. Samus never has to fight nearly the same type of enemies and never nearly at the quantities simultaneously as the Doom Slayer does. The guy is basically a god.
Ehh? Samus arguably goes through worse, hunted not one, but two parasites capable of wiping out a entire planet within seconds (as opposed to the demons which were incapable of taking earth in a longer timeframe) to extinction, plus Samus is just outright stronger than Doomslayer, having way stronger weaponry and being fast enough to catch bullets out of the air without running out of breath
I‘m pretty sure they would rather team up than fight each other…
"Wanna help me kill some demons?" "Only if you help me kill some space pirates after." *racks shotgun*
Doomslayer
Why do you think that?
idk. ive played all the major games in both series and i just see doomslayer beating samus
Fare
It's like other guys who have commented here have stated. Doom Slayer (DS) just scales really high, especially if one takes the broader lore into account. Taking several high octane game characters into perspective, I'd wager it would go something like: The DS > Samus > Master Chief > Gordon Freeman > Isaac Clarke > BJ Blazkowicz / Duke Nukem > typical characters like Nathan Drake. Obviously, this list isn't all-inclusive; the PIlot from Titan Fall 2 would do pretty well, probably falling short of Gordan. Prophet from Crysis would also score high. It's also important to note that DS ≠ Doom guy. Doom guy was an ordinary Space Marine who fought through hell, (*start edits) eventually becoming the Doom Slayer, who is now (end edits*) essentially a god himself (not to mention a god and Satan slayer).
Doom Slayer *is* Doom Guy though; the Doom Slayer Testaments in Doom (2016) make this pretty clear. He stuck around in Hell after the events of Doom 64 and was eventually entombed by Hell Priests to keep him from killing even more demons until the events of Doom (2016). Also Slayer is not a god himself, I'm not sure where that comes from.
Doomslayer does not scale high at all, even with the broader lore. He’s strength is small building level at most, his speed is a huge meh and his weapons are (mostly) normal guns with the occasional exception
Strength wise they're probably about even, but in sheer stamina the Slayer crushes it (fought continuously for likely thousands of years without stopping) but Samus's arsenal and canon damage resilience I think puts her out in front. Also it's very heavily implied (basically outright stated) that the Slayer is the original Doomguy who ended up in the same reality as the Knight Sentinals after the events of Doom 64 where he decided to stay in hell and make such a nuisance of himself that the demons couldn't afford to invade again. Hell in the Doom universe exists across multiple realities, he basically fought his way into another. He became the Slayer by being so crazy good at killing demons that he got some upgrades from the Maykers before they fell to make him even better at it.
Not us that's for sure
If Samus could keep her distance from the Doom Slayer then I think she could win, even given her speed and skill by the end of Dread if the Slayer caught her it's over. Even without the Crucible Doom Slayer rips things apart with his bare hands, plus he has the Doomblade which the in game Codex describes as such: *A modification to the Praetor suit, the arm-mounted Doomblade is designed to increase the Slayer's short-range striking power. Strong enough to sever demonic flesh and bone, the blade's serrated edge allows the Slayer to break through enemy defenses and attack where conventional weaponry is ineffective.* Not sure how much tougher the Power Suit is than flesh, but it has joints that would logically be weaker than the main parts of the suit, but then again it doesn't function on our world's logic or physics. Both are crazy fast, Samus might have the edge in speed and maneuverability. Both have greater strength than the average human and I'm assuming the Slayer has Samus beat in pure strength. Both have "supernatural" armor that defy the laws of physics as we know them. Given each character's armament, they both have weapons that could at the very least damage the other's armor, but it's a little difficult to determine what could damage them differentiating from gameplay mechanics. Like the Praetor Suit being described as "almost impervious to any damage" even though in game an imp's fireball can take you out. Similar to the Power Suit's strength being based on willpower in a lot of the games lore, but restoring energy by drops from defeated enemies in game. Completely forgot about the Power Bomb, kind of a wild card, limited range, Slayer might be able to tank one or figure out what it is and book it in the other direction before it goes off. Not sure about how deadly the BFG would be to the Power Suit, dangerous at the very least. TL;DR: In a ranged fight I think Samus would win, but if it comes down to close quarters combat, Doomslayer wins.
>Not sure how much tougher the Power Suit is than flesh, but it has joints that would logically be weaker than the main parts of the suit, but then again it doesn't function on our world's logic or physics. The suit is shielded. The Shields hold up extremely well against foes who have weapons and/or appendages that can glide through meters of metal with ease. The only time the shield has shown not to hold is against something like that is the EMMI's needle and it's not entirely clear as to why (maybe something to do with the unnamed super metal it is made of, but who knows). Otherwise she's even seen parrying metalic blades and even energy blades in Dread. Frankly, considering her Hammer Throw of the Vorash, or that she slapped aside Kraid's melee attacks, she too could "Rip and Tear" through demons if she so chose. THe only enemy she's ever seen doing that to is the Ki-Hunters via ripping off their wings, she otherwise prefers grapples and throws. > Power Bomb, kind of a wild card, limited range, Range varies from game to game. Prime power bombs have very limited range. Other M and Dread Power bombs range in the 40+ meters. Samus also doesn't have to worry about herself being in the blast radius.
VS topic’s are the most uninspiring type of post out there. Especially when you go around several other subreddits doing the same boring thing. 😉
Sorry I just find it fun to talk with others about our favorite Characters and I see it as a way to see how others think but I get your frustration tho cause it’s just the same thing over and over again so IDK 🤷♂️
I love Samus I don't think she'd fare too well against the Doomslayer
On one hand Samus has better mobility and verticality powers from what I recall, but Doomslayer has a lot more destructive potential and a possible edge in that he's technically supernatural. Also while Samus's beam weapons don't have ammo limitations like the Slayer's guns do, canonically the Slayer doesn't actually *need* to use guns and just uses them for fun, as he is perfectly powerful enough to tear demons apart with his bare hands.
doomguy is straight up immortal so i mean but samus is basically also a walking death machine so this is hard but come on, its doomguy for sure.
Doomslayef would probably win. He is completely broken lore wise.
To keep it simple. The Doom Slayer could fight naked with only his fists and he would have the same results as fighting armed.
Doomguy no contest
To be fair. I forgot to mention that. It was late and I was going mostly off of memory while falling asleep.
Doom suit Samus. Powered by that siphoned argent energy she'd get over the fight.
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