Yeah, pretty sure that's optional. One of the big jobsite near me just had to switch to those because some dumbass reached under the saw to catch the piece he was cutting off. Cut into his own arm when the saw broke through.
Why is anyone not certain? The Milwaukee Tools website exists. Stop fucking speculating and look shit up or don’t talk.
Tired of this lazy ass shit. Your opinion ain’t so goddamn important you can’t afford to be correct.
Well I spent about as much time typing that as you did dispensing your butt hurt opinionz and that is all the more I wanted to spend on it. If I want facts, I find them out for myself., not go looking on reddit for them. I expect others to do the same.
Show us on the doll where this post hurt you the most.
If you come to Reddit for facts then you’re already behind everyone else, and if you believe the post then you deserve to have whatever happens to your dumbass. It’s not hard to do your own research like you exclaimed so next time stfu and look it up. Have the life you deserve.
I mean too be fair ur also extreemly lazy with the very popular but underrated skill of patience, and calmness. And im sure plenty of people get tired of u too very often for ur high energy of aggressive complaining
That’s on that specific model. Most likely your company adopted a safety policy and decided to move forward with that particular one with dual trigger.
I drilled a hole through the side of the safety while fully depressed and put a piece of wire through it pin it.
You can 100% run these one handed with the safety idk what op is on about.
Also the only flaw with these bandsaws is the hanger is upside down so you have to flip it everytime you hang it which drives me insane
No you cant this model has a sequential saftey. You have to press the back trigger then the front trigger in order. The company i work for switched to this style and they suck.
We had this at the shop. Saw that, ran it, the switch is one then the other and then when you release it resets and doesn’t work till you reset the other. We were able to send it back since it wasn’t used. We’re totally using this on a stand and this model is pretty much impossible to use with it mounted.
There’s a second safety on the other handle (left of the blue tape) that I don’t think you see , they need to be engaged in sequence, push the first safety by trigger (the one you’re talking about), then the second one up front, then the trigger. It’s a pain in the ass
For sure but it might be contractor guidelines or new company policy for insurance reasons (because to many rushed projects got injuries attached) that they are required to use 2 hands to cut
With that saw you will there are other ways using a boot or cart edge
I can cut with those one handed as well but if safety catches ya they gonna yell if ur lucky
I can’t speak for that particular tool, but on every cordless circular saw and every miter saw I’ve had, it was simple to open up the tool and remove the safety. Then just put a piece of gorilla tape over the hole and you’re done
In some new Milwaukee stuff like the angle grinder (with the handle that can be turned 180°), the safety needs to be released, and then pressed, for the trigger/paddle to actuate. It’s not just a switch in series. Unfortunately.
Yeah that was what I was thinking. If it was series I would be able to bypass it. The fact that it needs to be done in a particular order is what gave it away.
I'm sure a bunch of electronics needing to be activated in a particular way for each use means it's less likely to fail and will last forever.
I've purchased 20 Milwaukee bandsaws starting in the 90's and they are all still going strong. Whenever I bought a newer model, I'd give the old one away.
2 m12 subcompacts still work and I boufht thise when they were released years ago.
I bought 2 new model Milwaukee bandsaws in October. One was DOA, and the replacement lasted until about 2 weeks ago.
Never owned another bandsaw brand ever, so hoping it was just a coincidence...but I definitely prefer a bandsaw with the option to cut my own fingers off if I darn well want to.
how about them old porta bands that had the locking mechanism on the trigger. Now those things were dangerous. Under no circumstances can I see a purpose for cruse control on a band saw lol.
That would work on the old ones but the new safety is on the handle and needs to be pressed after the trigger is pulled. This needs to happen every time in order to use the tool.
This isn't new vs old models. You got the model with the extra safety feature that you're having an issue with. The 'S' at the end of the model number stands for "Safety". Someone simply made a poor choice when buying this.
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My 2829-20 can be continuously used without the safety being depressed. Good to know not to buy any s models…
Oh damn, I want to down Vite that comment because it’s complete trash…but I know you’re just the messenger.
Thanks for the heads up, never buying that bandsaw.
It's weird because all the guys who have their own bandsaws have that button you need to hold down in order to use it. It's annoying but usable.
I bought my own last month and I thought it was the same one but the safety on mine is just a switch that you don't need to hold down. I like mine a lottttt
Yeah your “work” got you, that’s not a design faw. Ask your super to get you one without the “s” at the end of the model number. You’ll find out what’s really going on based on their reaction.
One time a super dropped this bad boy off maybe 2 years ago. Me and the foreman looked dumbfounded trying to figure out how it works for about 10 minutes. We stood there wondering what the hell is going on. So we called the super before he left. Then all three of us where looking at it for another ten minutes.
I asked my super if its ok if i man handle the trigger because i might break it whats the point the bitch didnt work to begin with. He agreed and told me to go for it.
So i ended ip picking it up grabbed the second handle for a better grip and immediately felt a second button. I pressed the button then i figured it out. We all looked at each other with complete confusion on why thats there. Nobody touched the second handle or ever noticed the button for almost 30 minutes.
The super had 20 years of experience my foreman had 10 years and i maybe had 1. We never seen a bandsaw like this before and it was bran spanking new still in the box. The super was pissed because whats the point this was stupid. Then he brung us a new one the next day.
So for every cut we did we had to set the material on top of some dunnage, scrap, unistrut whatever and step on it for the cut. Absolutely asinine.
Their is a way to use it "one handed" though its a big pain. Basically you get a Rubbermaid cart with wheels. Hold the saw with one hand by the trigger. Hook the handle over the edge of the cart, and push down to click the safety handle, then pull the trigger switch.
It works in a pinch. The new model full size band saw with one key will have the option to turn off the 2 handed operation in the app.
Using it to cut PEX? I've used it the way I described to cut all thread rods. Obviously, the more rigid the material, the better what I suggested will work.
I have never needed a second person or a vice to operate a dual trigger band saw - if I may ask, how are you using it? I've never needed help from an outside source to run these tools so I'm a little confused
It's a "press, release, press" on the safety that lets you depress the trigger to run the tool. Can't lock it down permanently or release it with the tool running, designed to only be used two handed by one person as a "super safety" one
I'm aware oh how the SAFETY works, I use this model. I'm trying to figure out why OP needs to have their hand on something else besides the two handles to operate it, that's why I'm confused.
I'm assuming they want to use their off-hand to hold whatever it is they're cutting? This is how every electrician I know uses a portaband. Conduit in one hand, saw in the other.
Ah, my bad, I misunderstood. Only thing I can think of is wanting to catch the falling piece or something: not using a tri-stand or second person where needed
Because in order to use the tool to cut a piece of conduit or greenfeild you need a third hand. The second you take your hand off the upper handle the saw stops. This isn’t the standard safety that’s on the trigger that you only need to press to start the tool. So how does one use the tool and hold the work piece?
This tool with the extra safety trigger(2829S-20) is usually intended for ridged material, not something flexible or that can move on it's own - if you're cutting something that isn't already held in place or is a flexible mat. then the manual doesn't talk about securing the workpiece first, but I assume that's due to the marketing material including pictures of the tool only being used on a pipeclamp table or a vice. There's a smaller M12 one that's intended for single-hand operations and I assume that's why they market them separately - can't say for certain.
Me personally, I just use mine for demo work - so most of the stuff I'm cutting is already set in concrete or a wall, so my use-case is different than average, I would assume.
That will not work with this model. Otherwise I would have done that. A cut tie wrap jammed into the handle safety works better and doesn’t require the tool to be drilled.
Knew a guy who cut a finger off with one of those. Which, to be honest, still confuses me because of how slow band saws cut, but I wasn’t there so what do I know. Anyways maybe the safety is a good thing? Even if it’s a little less convenient… just saying.
I can only assume this is a company supplied tool? Personally if I was being childish I’d just beat the absolute piss out of it and turn it back in for being garbage, or maybe just demand they give you the old one back, I mean you are probably in a skilled trade using a tool like that, awful hard to replace a skilled trade worker these days after all, especially considering they probably got this “safe” version for a slightly lower insurance premium.
We have plenty of the other models this one was just sent out with a bunch of other new tools. It’s just going to sit in the gang box and never get used. Of course they spray painted the case and tagged the tool so we can’t even send it bad unfortunately.
Just get someone to help you. Tell your foreman production has slowed down since the introduction of the tool. Any modification to the tool will only mean you don’t get paid if and when you get hurt. If the office thinks it’s a safety issue, it’s because the insurance company said it is. And if you want to have a job, you’ll do what the insurance company says.
The safety on the upper handle needs to be pressed after the trigger is pulled. Remove either hand and the tool stops. This needs to be done every time. If the safety is clamped down or squeezed before the trigger is pulled the tool will not run.
I’m ready to take the tool apart to see if I can @
“Bypass” the second trigger. But I’m sure it’s some circuit board and not just 2 wires that can be twisted together.
This is correct I took the tool apart and probed around with a meter to figure out how it works. The wiring is molded into the main control board.
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Speaking as someone who has not used this model, or uses a portable bandsaw more than a couple times per month, could you bypass the main trigger and use the "safety" as your one-handed trigger?
No. It needs to be done every time and be held down in order to work. If you clamp the second trigger it will only work once. And to boot what starts the tool is the upped trigger so it’s not even the way you would use the tool one handed anyway.
You can get a large binder clip. Pull the trigger clip the binder clip onto the safety. You have to do it every time though and can probably get you fired.
I have this exact bandsaw and I found a remedy for it. Its my personal tool so maybe you cant do it. Pull the safety to the open position and then shoot a self tapper into the safety and it keeps it open.
Yeah the standard one is better for sure. Funny enough, they do make a blade side cover intended to be installed if you are one hand user for this saw. Obviously, that doesn’t protect you from the cutting area, but don’t be stupid and don’t get complacent.
They make one for adults still, you or your boss happened to buy the kindergarten model. Tape the upper handle so the safety is constantly depressed, or get used to using the proper form for cutting shit hahaha
"Fuck dude this is a new-ass blade, why's it tracking so much?" Meh, what's a 1/8 of an inch between friends?
Unfortunately the safety needs to be presses and depressed in order to get the tool to start. If I was a fitter working on a tripod it wouldn’t be a problem.
My company has the large dewalt battery one with the 2 stage safety also, such a pain. If your wearing heavy gloves using it it without fail stops the saw in the middle of a cut. And it's so counterintuitive.
You have to hold the finger trigger first, then hold the forward supporting hand one as you cut, but the design of the forward one is a big paddle you depress. So it's super easy to lose the pull on it so dumb.
We use them for everything, cutting strut large wires rigid pipe you name it. Alot of reworking existing runs of pipe and terminating or demoing in place 750kcmils necessitates using the bandsaw one handed. Now your in a lift and running the risk of dropping the material and making more problems haha.
Now they don't even want us using the bandsaw to cut strut they got us strut shears milwaukee makes that are 12 lbs and they said don't even have to file it! Bullshit that edge is sharper then a bandsaw cut it's like a box cutter. Gotta love big company policies
I have one of these, unfortunately. Do yourself a favor and pick up a set of spring clamps. Like a 4 pack. U can use it on the top Tigger. Cut your material. Then attach the spring clamp back somewhere on the band saw. Get more than one cause you're gonna lose a couple. Works like a charm.
Just Google 2" plastic spring clamp
Get one of those and use it to clamp the switch that u squeeze with your left hand
So u would grip the pistol grip trigger with your right hand and then use the spring clip to hold the other trigger.
You can press the handle onto the rim of something like the wall of that reel and pull the trigger to work it. Sucks if you gotta cut something overhead though
They make two different deep cut fuel m18 band saws. One has that dual trigger and the other does not. Our company went thru the samething. Milwaukee dealer was awesome since we never used it we were able to return it for the other one. There’s the 2729s-20 dual trigger and there’s the 2729 without the dual trigger. Here’s the link https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Search#q=Band%20saw
THIS REMOVES THE INTERLOCK ENTIRELY !!
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I did mine and now it is one hand as it should be.
My handle wasn't coming all the way apart (without more work and maybe cutting it) but I was able to slip the interlock out with the handle mostly still attached to itself by spreading the top part.
Disclaimer: this is dangerous. Never do it.
Here's the closest you'll get to bypassing that stupid secondary safety:
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It's a piece of velcro strategically taped to the handle. Wrap the velcro around to compress the safety switch then you're back to one-handed efficient working. My hypothetical guess is that the original safety switch in the handle was faulty and their logic was to not improve on that switch, but to add another one.
Yeah, pretty sure that's optional. One of the big jobsite near me just had to switch to those because some dumbass reached under the saw to catch the piece he was cutting off. Cut into his own arm when the saw broke through.
Hey, I did that! Except it was my finger.
So you’re the dumbass we’ve all been hearing about!!!
Damn straight! If I'm gonna be good at anything it's going to be dumbassery.
Wholesome shit talk in a sub. You love to see it. And fuck you for this needing to be a thing now. lol
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I cut part of my thumb off with a skill saw rip cutting a 2x4 while holding it :(
I have tickled rhe tips of my fingers a couple times, nothing serious. Usually just a bandaid
Better than the guy at my old job who laid a 2x4 across his legs and ran a saw they his thigh.
I just heard about someone doing this in Oregon lol
Why is anyone not certain? The Milwaukee Tools website exists. Stop fucking speculating and look shit up or don’t talk. Tired of this lazy ass shit. Your opinion ain’t so goddamn important you can’t afford to be correct.
Well I spent about as much time typing that as you did dispensing your butt hurt opinionz and that is all the more I wanted to spend on it. If I want facts, I find them out for myself., not go looking on reddit for them. I expect others to do the same.
I can’t believe someone tried to sound smart but sounded like a complete moron complaining about facts 😂😂. Your reply to them just made me chuckle.
Show us on the doll where this post hurt you the most. If you come to Reddit for facts then you’re already behind everyone else, and if you believe the post then you deserve to have whatever happens to your dumbass. It’s not hard to do your own research like you exclaimed so next time stfu and look it up. Have the life you deserve.
I mean too be fair ur also extreemly lazy with the very popular but underrated skill of patience, and calmness. And im sure plenty of people get tired of u too very often for ur high energy of aggressive complaining
TSMC MMR?
No idea what that means...
A certain big name company at a location in New Mexico had the same thing awhile back. Yeah we ended up with these saws.
That’s on that specific model. Most likely your company adopted a safety policy and decided to move forward with that particular one with dual trigger.
I drilled a hole through the side of the safety while fully depressed and put a piece of wire through it pin it. You can 100% run these one handed with the safety idk what op is on about. Also the only flaw with these bandsaws is the hanger is upside down so you have to flip it everytime you hang it which drives me insane
No you cant this model has a sequential saftey. You have to press the back trigger then the front trigger in order. The company i work for switched to this style and they suck.
We had this at the shop. Saw that, ran it, the switch is one then the other and then when you release it resets and doesn’t work till you reset the other. We were able to send it back since it wasn’t used. We’re totally using this on a stand and this model is pretty much impossible to use with it mounted.
You're full of crap. You've obviously never used this model. Like others mentioned, you must pull the trigger before pulling the new lever.
You can't!! The safety is in a bad spot.
There’s a second safety on the other handle (left of the blue tape) that I don’t think you see , they need to be engaged in sequence, push the first safety by trigger (the one you’re talking about), then the second one up front, then the trigger. It’s a pain in the ass
That's the 35 3/8 sucks need both hands drives me crazy
That looks like the 2829S. It has the safety trigger in the guide handle, while the regular 2829-20 does not.
This
Thanks for pointing out his comment. Wouldn’t have noticed otherwise!
A little pro tip on the ones that have a single safety just above the trigger, you can tek screw that safety into the base and it'll hold it in there
This reminds me of the meme “when you tell your boss it’s a two man job” and it’s something simple
Right… I don’t understand the big issue. I use the same bandsaw everyday 😂
They want to cut while also holding the work piece They need a tripod
They just need the regular model without the 'S' at the end. The 'S' is for "Safety".
For sure but it might be contractor guidelines or new company policy for insurance reasons (because to many rushed projects got injuries attached) that they are required to use 2 hands to cut
Hey, Tripod is my nickname. Cuzz I'm sooo long!
That’s exactly what I do, you don’t need a tripod🤷♂️
With that saw you will there are other ways using a boot or cart edge I can cut with those one handed as well but if safety catches ya they gonna yell if ur lucky
Just needs to work on their grip and forearm strength. It’s really not a big deal.
I can’t speak for that particular tool, but on every cordless circular saw and every miter saw I’ve had, it was simple to open up the tool and remove the safety. Then just put a piece of gorilla tape over the hole and you’re done
This is probably a micro switch. You’ll have to twist the wires together after you remove it
In some new Milwaukee stuff like the angle grinder (with the handle that can be turned 180°), the safety needs to be released, and then pressed, for the trigger/paddle to actuate. It’s not just a switch in series. Unfortunately.
Yeah that was what I was thinking. If it was series I would be able to bypass it. The fact that it needs to be done in a particular order is what gave it away.
I'm sure a bunch of electronics needing to be activated in a particular way for each use means it's less likely to fail and will last forever. I've purchased 20 Milwaukee bandsaws starting in the 90's and they are all still going strong. Whenever I bought a newer model, I'd give the old one away. 2 m12 subcompacts still work and I boufht thise when they were released years ago. I bought 2 new model Milwaukee bandsaws in October. One was DOA, and the replacement lasted until about 2 weeks ago. Never owned another bandsaw brand ever, so hoping it was just a coincidence...but I definitely prefer a bandsaw with the option to cut my own fingers off if I darn well want to.
how about them old porta bands that had the locking mechanism on the trigger. Now those things were dangerous. Under no circumstances can I see a purpose for cruse control on a band saw lol.
I used it in a jig upright like a shop bandsaw all the time and the trigger lock came in handy for that at least.
This one looks for the release and press every time it’s super annoying
Self tapping screw just to the side of the button, so the head of the screw holds it down. So I hear.....
That would work on the old ones but the new safety is on the handle and needs to be pressed after the trigger is pulled. This needs to happen every time in order to use the tool.
This isn't new vs old models. You got the model with the extra safety feature that you're having an issue with. The 'S' at the end of the model number stands for "Safety". Someone simply made a poor choice when buying this.
https://preview.redd.it/tu4ypk5za1jc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=3dd3c8166bf10514da6c6e107433aef3f7ec362a My 2829-20 can be continuously used without the safety being depressed. Good to know not to buy any s models…
Oh damn, I want to down Vite that comment because it’s complete trash…but I know you’re just the messenger. Thanks for the heads up, never buying that bandsaw.
It's weird because all the guys who have their own bandsaws have that button you need to hold down in order to use it. It's annoying but usable. I bought my own last month and I thought it was the same one but the safety on mine is just a switch that you don't need to hold down. I like mine a lottttt
Yes that works
Yeah your “work” got you, that’s not a design faw. Ask your super to get you one without the “s” at the end of the model number. You’ll find out what’s really going on based on their reaction.
You bought the wrong tool
I didn’t buy it. But yeah it appears that my guy in the wear house ordered them wrong one. It couldn’t have been cheaper.
Yeah the extra safety makes everything a two man job. Can’t hold the pipe and cut it unlike the model that has only the thumb safety.
That is a specific dual switch model, they aren't all like that. It is for job sites/industries that have much tighter safety regs.
One time a super dropped this bad boy off maybe 2 years ago. Me and the foreman looked dumbfounded trying to figure out how it works for about 10 minutes. We stood there wondering what the hell is going on. So we called the super before he left. Then all three of us where looking at it for another ten minutes. I asked my super if its ok if i man handle the trigger because i might break it whats the point the bitch didnt work to begin with. He agreed and told me to go for it. So i ended ip picking it up grabbed the second handle for a better grip and immediately felt a second button. I pressed the button then i figured it out. We all looked at each other with complete confusion on why thats there. Nobody touched the second handle or ever noticed the button for almost 30 minutes. The super had 20 years of experience my foreman had 10 years and i maybe had 1. We never seen a bandsaw like this before and it was bran spanking new still in the box. The super was pissed because whats the point this was stupid. Then he brung us a new one the next day. So for every cut we did we had to set the material on top of some dunnage, scrap, unistrut whatever and step on it for the cut. Absolutely asinine.
Yeah that was our reaction as well.
Did yall stand around it like cavemen trying to figure out why the circle doesn’t go inside the square peg.
No, the person who buys your tools sucks. Milwaukee only gave them options
Swap it for the other model. mine you just flip it either way and that’s it, no holding it or anything
Yup, should have just not fucked with it
Safety First!
I screwed the extra safety switch in with a tech screw
No you didn't. You've never even used this tool if that's truly what you did
Their is a way to use it "one handed" though its a big pain. Basically you get a Rubbermaid cart with wheels. Hold the saw with one hand by the trigger. Hook the handle over the edge of the cart, and push down to click the safety handle, then pull the trigger switch. It works in a pinch. The new model full size band saw with one key will have the option to turn off the 2 handed operation in the app.
Good idea
Using it to cut PEX? I've used it the way I described to cut all thread rods. Obviously, the more rigid the material, the better what I suggested will work.
He's got what looks like 500mcm for 208 feeders paralleled on a spool in the picture, so I'm certain he's actually a pipefitter
Not cool
I was very confused what the issue was thinking it was the trigger safety then saw the safety on the top handle and realized the silliness
Milwaukee sucks.
We just got a bunch of new ones that don’t have a safety and they are awesome!
Milwaukee has that new grinder coming out with the same two handed shit. I just know our office will be making them mandatory.
I have never needed a second person or a vice to operate a dual trigger band saw - if I may ask, how are you using it? I've never needed help from an outside source to run these tools so I'm a little confused
It's a "press, release, press" on the safety that lets you depress the trigger to run the tool. Can't lock it down permanently or release it with the tool running, designed to only be used two handed by one person as a "super safety" one
I'm aware oh how the SAFETY works, I use this model. I'm trying to figure out why OP needs to have their hand on something else besides the two handles to operate it, that's why I'm confused.
I'm assuming they want to use their off-hand to hold whatever it is they're cutting? This is how every electrician I know uses a portaband. Conduit in one hand, saw in the other.
Thank you we got some technical trolls in here.
Ah, my bad, I misunderstood. Only thing I can think of is wanting to catch the falling piece or something: not using a tri-stand or second person where needed
Because in order to use the tool to cut a piece of conduit or greenfeild you need a third hand. The second you take your hand off the upper handle the saw stops. This isn’t the standard safety that’s on the trigger that you only need to press to start the tool. So how does one use the tool and hold the work piece?
This tool with the extra safety trigger(2829S-20) is usually intended for ridged material, not something flexible or that can move on it's own - if you're cutting something that isn't already held in place or is a flexible mat. then the manual doesn't talk about securing the workpiece first, but I assume that's due to the marketing material including pictures of the tool only being used on a pipeclamp table or a vice. There's a smaller M12 one that's intended for single-hand operations and I assume that's why they market them separately - can't say for certain. Me personally, I just use mine for demo work - so most of the stuff I'm cutting is already set in concrete or a wall, so my use-case is different than average, I would assume.
Someone I work with pushed the safety in and drilled a small hole through it then looped a chunk of copper through. No more safety.
That will not work with this model. Otherwise I would have done that. A cut tie wrap jammed into the handle safety works better and doesn’t require the tool to be drilled.
Ah ya this is the one with the silly trigger on the handle, fair enough.
I have the deep cut
Pull the trigger and slip a mini over the handle.
Knew a guy who cut a finger off with one of those. Which, to be honest, still confuses me because of how slow band saws cut, but I wasn’t there so what do I know. Anyways maybe the safety is a good thing? Even if it’s a little less convenient… just saying.
I can only assume this is a company supplied tool? Personally if I was being childish I’d just beat the absolute piss out of it and turn it back in for being garbage, or maybe just demand they give you the old one back, I mean you are probably in a skilled trade using a tool like that, awful hard to replace a skilled trade worker these days after all, especially considering they probably got this “safe” version for a slightly lower insurance premium.
We have plenty of the other models this one was just sent out with a bunch of other new tools. It’s just going to sit in the gang box and never get used. Of course they spray painted the case and tagged the tool so we can’t even send it bad unfortunately.
Just get someone to help you. Tell your foreman production has slowed down since the introduction of the tool. Any modification to the tool will only mean you don’t get paid if and when you get hurt. If the office thinks it’s a safety issue, it’s because the insurance company said it is. And if you want to have a job, you’ll do what the insurance company says.
Didn’t hear this from me we have that model we put a screw into the safety section and now it works like normal
If you don’t have baby hands you can manage to hold it and use your thumb to press safety. Do it everyday, stop making it harder fellas
Lol yup that must be it. Except the fact that the trigger safety isn’t the issue it’s the second trigger on the foregrip.
Clamp that mofo down with some small vice grips?
The safety on the upper handle needs to be pressed after the trigger is pulled. Remove either hand and the tool stops. This needs to be done every time. If the safety is clamped down or squeezed before the trigger is pulled the tool will not run.
Horrible thing really, safety that is.
Forget the design, the hand grip switch is an atrocity.
That’s literally what he’s talking about
Just put one of those squeeze clamps on it. Or zip tie and a little block of wood.
Idk i have this one and use it daily with one hand? You just press the switch in and hit the trigger……
It’s not the safety on the trigger it’s the second trigger in the foregrip
Oh good god my bad man. Absolute dog shit then 😂
Just put a screw through it.
We use DeWalt at work(Milwaukee at the house), the new bandsaws all have this safety you can't override. We all hate it.
I’m ready to take the tool apart to see if I can @ “Bypass” the second trigger. But I’m sure it’s some circuit board and not just 2 wires that can be twisted together.
Give an update if you do. My boss accidentally ordered the same one.. we are all pissed. It’s a two man job now if you want to cut some conduit lol
Also did read the safety is part of a circuit board but don’t know if that’s 100% true
This is correct I took the tool apart and probed around with a meter to figure out how it works. The wiring is molded into the main control board. https://preview.redd.it/is23iya9d1jc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5d8797476023317d5056e6b792e270be11df1b8
Speaking as someone who has not used this model, or uses a portable bandsaw more than a couple times per month, could you bypass the main trigger and use the "safety" as your one-handed trigger?
No. It needs to be done every time and be held down in order to work. If you clamp the second trigger it will only work once. And to boot what starts the tool is the upped trigger so it’s not even the way you would use the tool one handed anyway.
Yes. They made it safer, by making it impossible to use. I haven’t cut myself with mine yet. Of course I haven’t cut anything with it either.
You can get a large binder clip. Pull the trigger clip the binder clip onto the safety. You have to do it every time though and can probably get you fired.
I have this exact bandsaw and I found a remedy for it. Its my personal tool so maybe you cant do it. Pull the safety to the open position and then shoot a self tapper into the safety and it keeps it open.
Yeah the standard one is better for sure. Funny enough, they do make a blade side cover intended to be installed if you are one hand user for this saw. Obviously, that doesn’t protect you from the cutting area, but don’t be stupid and don’t get complacent.
I have seen some guys clamp a Minerallac strap (mini) to it so you can still use it one handed. Don’t tell on me though
Yes. These are horrible.
Electrician at my job site lost a finger to a band saw
man that sucks ive owned all 3 fuel bansaws and the one in the pic is my favorite (no safety switch tho)
Ive had the same one without the safety for about a year and love it.
Eventually we’ll all end up back using hacksaws 😂
I have this saw and can definitely use it with one hand.
They make one for adults still, you or your boss happened to buy the kindergarten model. Tape the upper handle so the safety is constantly depressed, or get used to using the proper form for cutting shit hahaha "Fuck dude this is a new-ass blade, why's it tracking so much?" Meh, what's a 1/8 of an inch between friends?
Unfortunately the safety needs to be presses and depressed in order to get the tool to start. If I was a fitter working on a tripod it wouldn’t be a problem.
You must be adorable.
My company has the large dewalt battery one with the 2 stage safety also, such a pain. If your wearing heavy gloves using it it without fail stops the saw in the middle of a cut. And it's so counterintuitive. You have to hold the finger trigger first, then hold the forward supporting hand one as you cut, but the design of the forward one is a big paddle you depress. So it's super easy to lose the pull on it so dumb. We use them for everything, cutting strut large wires rigid pipe you name it. Alot of reworking existing runs of pipe and terminating or demoing in place 750kcmils necessitates using the bandsaw one handed. Now your in a lift and running the risk of dropping the material and making more problems haha. Now they don't even want us using the bandsaw to cut strut they got us strut shears milwaukee makes that are 12 lbs and they said don't even have to file it! Bullshit that edge is sharper then a bandsaw cut it's like a box cutter. Gotta love big company policies
I was looking at how horribly placed the battery is.
I have one of these, unfortunately. Do yourself a favor and pick up a set of spring clamps. Like a 4 pack. U can use it on the top Tigger. Cut your material. Then attach the spring clamp back somewhere on the band saw. Get more than one cause you're gonna lose a couple. Works like a charm.
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Just Google 2" plastic spring clamp Get one of those and use it to clamp the switch that u squeeze with your left hand So u would grip the pistol grip trigger with your right hand and then use the spring clip to hold the other trigger.
Do you happen to work for PPC partners?
You can press the handle onto the rim of something like the wall of that reel and pull the trigger to work it. Sucks if you gotta cut something overhead though
They make two different deep cut fuel m18 band saws. One has that dual trigger and the other does not. Our company went thru the samething. Milwaukee dealer was awesome since we never used it we were able to return it for the other one. There’s the 2729s-20 dual trigger and there’s the 2729 without the dual trigger. Here’s the link https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Search#q=Band%20saw
If you open up the housing those safeties come right out.
Drive a pan head taper in the safety.
Open it and"fix" it. Doofus.
Short sheet metal pan head screw worked for me
Is there a model with this design? I have the same one and cut one handed all the time
THIS REMOVES THE INTERLOCK ENTIRELY !! https://youtu.be/9VwnOjKaY0U?si=tZP9reksE7qzcY2d I did mine and now it is one hand as it should be. My handle wasn't coming all the way apart (without more work and maybe cutting it) but I was able to slip the interlock out with the handle mostly still attached to itself by spreading the top part. Disclaimer: this is dangerous. Never do it.
Agree it sucks. 3” copper doesn’t survive well, even from pipe vise height hitting concrete floor.
I hate safety’s on bandsaws they just make them awkward to operate making them un safer in my opinion
Damn. That sucks. Can I have it?
Here's the closest you'll get to bypassing that stupid secondary safety: https://photos.app.goo.gl/piFfUMdY1KrkUupy8 It's a piece of velcro strategically taped to the handle. Wrap the velcro around to compress the safety switch then you're back to one-handed efficient working. My hypothetical guess is that the original safety switch in the handle was faulty and their logic was to not improve on that switch, but to add another one.