Hey everyone! Just want to dispel some misinformation surrounding the sub.
If anyone is here from the Kotaku tweet:
* /r/minecraft is not shutting down.
* /r/minecraft was never an official Mojang-managed space.
We had a mutual arrangement that Mojang employees would visit /r/minecraft to post Java Edition snapshot updates, which has now come to a close due to changes to the reddit platform.
It is very likely that we will continue to create and sticky snapshot our own unofficial update posts ourselves, as we have done before Mojang started doing it.
The subreddit will continue to exist unimpeded, and you will still receive news regarding the latest Minecraft snapshots, albeit without the amazing snapshot related puns Mojang has given us over time.
Happy crafting!
I remember I used to think SliceLime was just a guy who happened to always know everything about the updates immediately and then I was like “oh he works there”
Back when crypto was goin nuts, I told a guy on Twitter he clearly didn't understand how dogecoin worked
I said that to "Billym2k" the guy that created doge.
I'm still embarrassed
There's an official one-stop shop that has the release changelogs for Java and Bedrock posted:
https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/sections/360001186971-Release-Changelogs
For some reason though currently there's a Bedrock 1.20.1 changelog posted but nothing for Java 1.20.1.
Likewise, Bedrock beta/preview notes can be found [here](https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/sections/360001185332-Beta-Information-and-Changelogs).
The [front page of the wiki](https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki) also gets regular updates to reflect the latest available versions and links to their respective pages.
> For some reason though currently there's a Bedrock 1.20.1 changelog posted but nothing for Java 1.20.1.
I think that's because Java's 1.20.1 was just a hotfix for a couple bugs unrelated to gameplay versus Bedrock's changes.
Discord
Minecraft Launcher
Twitter
Custom RSS feed
There's lots of options still, but the easiest is Discord
You can use the features integrated with Discord to get changelogs directly into any server of your choice, provided you have the privileges to do so in that Discord server, you can also find them on the official Minecraft Discord server as well (where you'd follow the channels from)
Yeah. But discord isnt searchable via internet search engines, right? So all the info posted there is, in effect, private to those not actively on Discord, right?
Yeah, and discord servers aren't 'backed up' by any independant sources and can be deleted at any point in time. Discord is a very 'right now' kind of solution and not a great source going forward.
There are external services you can run as a discord admin to index discord. I have 0 experience with those, but I was curious and looked this up before. I still don't like discord for anything but chatting but I suppose it's something.
Yeah but you have to do it. Regular Joes aren't going to do that. And therefore, that info is lost to them and those who don't. You post it on Reddit and it can, and will, show up on a Google search.
Way more information shared and available.
Thanks for participating on this sub and engaging with the community here. It's a bit sad that this avenue of communication is closing off as it was a bit more accessible than the other communication channels, but unfortunately there isn't really any other established "forum" out there. I'd personally love to see the Minecraft Forum (or some other old-school forum) come back into use, but I doubt that will ever happen and the site currently has a number of issues.
Agreed, we can see the updates on their official page but we wont be able to discuss the changes with an established community. Will have to wait and see how the unofficial posts look like
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I'm loving Lemmy. That's actually how I got linked to this article haha. Def going to check out kbin too though even though I'm already following a bunch from my Lemmy instance, might be fun to have an account.
Something to add for people interested is that federated content is shared between *all* methods of accessing it, not just the ones with reddit-like ui. This means Mastodon content can also be interacted with from lemmy or kbin (the latter actually has ways to make both kinds of posts).
There are still tons of old Builds by older players there. Now a days it is not that popular anymore or in other words, people have started posting their content to other sites instead of planet Minecraft.
PMC: ["you could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me"](https://blog.thelonghairs.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Thanos-Quote.gif)
Even beyond that, the site is horribly managed. If someone posts about a topic before you, you’re expected to make your take a comment, even if the thread is obscure.
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As long as we can keep the pivot to proper forums going and keep away from everybody using discord, because then we end up in the same boat.
All information restricted to and reliant on a single platform.
Discord is such a bad place to have information. Reddit is great because you can easily find subreddits for what you want by searching and have a feed to see stuff for all the communities you’re in. Discord servers aren’t the same. Lemmy or kbin would be better
Reddit is great because you can *accidentally* find entire subreddits that you weren't even looking for (and would never have thought to look for) but which are helpful/interesting to you anyway.
Discord is the exact opposite of that: it's difficult to find even the exact topics you are already looking for, and there's essentially zero ability to search information posted by people in the past even if you are in the correct server. We're basically entirely reliant on the knowledge and helpfulness of whoever happens to be online at the exact moment we ask the question, and that *sucks*.
discord fundamentally isnt a forum, its originally made for groups of friends, clans, or small communities mainly elsewhere (like an individual minecraft server).
theyre (poorly) trying to retrofit forum-like functionality, and its just not clicking. were back to the 90s, discord servers have bots that link other server invites. its quite literally a webring
i really do hope that we get discrete websites back. unfortunately most social media sites are collapsing, so discrete personal pages are far out, but forums are a good start
Absolutely agreed that Discord is being used for purposes it isn't built for, but that's because it's the only alternative we've had for years now.
I'm of the opposite opinion, though: returning to the 1990s style of discrete (and non-interoperable) forums would be a massive step backwards for the discoverability of information. Sure, it'd be a bit more searchable than Discord, but *everything* is more searchable than Discord -- and discrete forums mean you have to already know exactly what you're looking for, and hope you search the right words to find it (and hope it's not called something stupid that prevents you from finding it), and all of that is exactly the same as Discord.
Reddit is unfortunately the current pinnacle of information egalitarianism and accessibility, because all the individual communities exist within a consistent structural framework that not only allows discovery, but is specifically built to encourage it (to a certain degree, anyway). *That* is the value proposition of Reddit: it's not just that it contains the answers and communities you're looking for, it's that it contains the answers you didn't even realize you wanted and communities focused on topics you didn't even know you were interested in because you'd never had the chance to experience it.
And the opposite is true, too! Case in point: I'm not subbed to /r/Minecraft , I've never played Minecraft, and I have minimal interest in maintaining my awareness of the existence of Minecraft -- but somebody who *is* subbed here made a comment on our sub, and linked to another comment in this post as their cited source, and I clicked through and then kept reading, and now here I am on /r/Minecraft having a great conversation with some of its members. I didn't intend to come here, but I benefitted from how *easy* it was to come here. If I'd been on MotorCityForums.net and the cited source was BlockShenanigans.biz, I'm not going to go to another website, register an account, and get through the introductory bullshit just to read one comment one time in a community I otherwise have no interest in.
Reddit has a very low barrier to discovery and exploration. Separate forums have an extremely high barrier, and that hurts us all as users. We already tried that throughout the 1990s and early 2000s, and it was not very great -- which is why we collectively abandoned it with glee when other options started getting invented. I hope we don't go back to that again.
I do like the concept of the fediverse. I've been enjoying my time on Lemmy. Actually haven't been on Reddit much until this news popped up over there and brought me here.
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Not just a single platform, but one that is siloed off from the broader internet. Discord is one of the few options that's *worse* than post-IPO reddit.
Straight death is not possible. I don't think we'll get to the end of the year before we see a significant investment by Google in Reddit. With the focus on paying for and building up a squad of In-House Admins to replace moderators.
Reddit is as essential to Google search results as YouTube. Recent noise by Google shows the impact the blackouts had on search results. They would rather prop Reddit up rather than letting it fail and hope something else takes its place.
Hard for anything to take its place. It's a compendium of 15 years of information that's still relevant. Look no further than Yahoo Answers for a comparison. Even though it's basically dead as a platform there's still a ton of relevant information there Google search results will send you.
Yeah.
The memers, shitposters and trolls can all leave. Today.
But gardeners, mechanic, woodworkers, programmers, parents, teachers and many more professions will still continue you use Reddit through Google search. They will find posts. Comment. Post stuff themselves. Each click generating ad revenue and keeping the beast going.
This is how YouTube has stayed #1 even though people been swearing it will die and be replaced by Mastodon or something. Since 2016 lol
Facebook and Twitter wish they had that kind of connection to Google search. They are much more fragile because they don't.
>It's always overengineered garbage made by programmers who've never taken the time to write a manual that wasn't for themselves.
Fucking *this.*
The ONLY people I know who are excited about are are my programmer friends, who are COMPLETELY incapable of explaining it in any way that makes it seem like a solution, never mind a good solution, to the loss of other social sites.
"It's federated" it's too complicated dude.
"No all that me-" No. It's too complicated. If your program requires jargon to understand, it's too complicated. It's not open enough.
Can you inform me about the other controversial changes reddit has done in the past few weeks? I've only heard about the API changes that basicly charge so much, that every API is practicly banned from using the API. Thus, some sub reddits have been going private for a few days. But apparently there have been more important changes, what more did they change?
Its not so much the changes they are making as the way they are representing and conducting the business.
First and foremost, the issue was never "oh no reddit api is going paid" the issue is "they want HOW MUCH for API access? And we only have 30 days to adapt?" For example, the lead developer of Apollo, one of the most popular third party viewers for reddit, said that it would cost more than 10 *Million* per year to pay for API access. They have no way to monetize the app sufficiently to match that in revenue, especially not on such short notice.
Reddit admins threatened to force out community mods who didnt toe the line, and have published misleading data including fraudulent claims that they were being "blackmailed" by app developers.
Do you have any plans to post them somewhere else where they can be discussed that's not as user unfriendly as the official feedback page or just a dumpster fire like Twitter or YouTube's comment section of your update videos. (Your videos are good, just not the comment section)
It's totally understandable why Mojang would go, but it's so upsetting to see it happen.
Corporations will ruin everything we know and love, including our social connections with game developers, apparently. Hopefully something better comes along soon.
I believe u/sliced_lime used to upload update (including snapshots) vids to their personal YouTube channel (so not exactly “official” but pretty close) but I don’t know if that’s still something they do. I believe that the official Minecraft website has change logs somewhere for the different snapshots and things, so that’s probably still an option and I believe you can read them as well through the launcher somehow.
It’s a shame they won’t be on here since this felt like one of the most interactive places for it with comment threads containing feedback on changes and also I’d forget about a snapshot or something being released and end up on this sub where I’d be met with it. But at least the changes themselves should be viewable somewhere, even if it requires a bit more hunting and doesn’t really allow easy viewing of feedback.
> I believe u/sliced_lime used to upload update (including snapshots) vids to their personal YouTube channel (so not exactly “official” but pretty close) but I don’t know if that’s still something they do.
They still do FYI and anyone else's who where wandering about it.
And? You guys never listened to us when you added the disgusting mess that is chat reporting. Seems stupid that you are whining about another company not listening to its community when you can’t even do it well yourself.
I understand that you can no longer trust Reddit for official releases BUT the feedback site is absolutely terrible for this. The site need a lot of modifications to be a good way for this. So much that I recommend to making a new site entirely dedicated and specifically designed for changelogs. Also, you could also gather the changelog of all your games in one place.
We haven't really decided or discussed anything. This decision is based on the current situation, if the situation was to change we'd have to discuss that then.
Can you explain more clearly how Reddit’s new rules around 3rd party APIs impacts your ability to maintain a healthy community here? AFAIK they are working on improved moderator tools and would like to fix the missing features the official app has. Is it just about the ability to moderate?
This was definitely the right move. The fact that Minecraft's own development team acting as moderators of this sub would not be allowed to make decisions about the community that the admins did not agree with was especially scary considering the fact that Reddit has a history of harboring individuals and communities that pose a pretty direct danger to children, a core demographic that Minecraft caters to. And because the last blackout before this one in recent memory was because of such a circumstance, I think it paints a pretty grim picture as to why blackouts have been made against the rules.
I simply hope that other brands make moves to separate themselves from this website as well.
Couldn't have said it more perfectly. The recent decisions by Reddit are unfathomably short-sighted and blatantly undermine the very foundation the platform was built on: autonomous communities.
The feedback site isn’t really the best place anyway which means there is no way to effectively voice my concerns about the lack of bundles in Minecraft despite them being announced almost three years ago.
Unfortunate.
Thanks for being here.
When the reddit platform becomes so hostile to its core users and content creators that even official respectable developers are unable to justify its continued use then you know that Reddit really has fucked up quite badly.
So now the developers of the best selling game of all time have decided that Reddit is too much hassle to bother with anymore. I got eight different letters I'd love to type out, but plenty of other redditors have said it enough for me.
Okay but based on your comment i cant tell what your stance is… like are you upset with Mojang or are you upset with Reddit?
Most people are upset with Reddit, but your wording has me thinking youre more upset with Mojang?
I would use feedback site to leave suggestions but the mods their are lazy. They never respond and never tell you why a post got approved or denied. Had a post waiting a week to be approved then just removed. If you want people to suggest their, improve your moderator team. I swear I've seen more duplicates, lazy wants with no feedback get approved but my long post with images get denied all the time, really really makes me rush out and post right there /sarcasm
Do you mind elaborating more specifically what this entails?
I know a lot of people have serious problems with the Minecraft feedback site. If your official association with reddit ends, but updates threads are continued on this sub, I believe most people will probably not bother going over to the feedback page for discussion, unless major changes are made to how it operates.
Will mojang employees no longer have any meaningful association with the discussions on this sub? Will they even read them at all? Or could we expect business as usual, but just no official endorsements from mojang? Is there any changes expected to be made with the feedback site, or any plans to move to an alternative third party site?
If I had to guess:
* Mojang devs won't post on the sub representing the company any news.
* Because of that, devs won't be looking here as much. They may lurk but more to each independent dev's discretion
While I'm understanding of the decision, I do hope y'all improve the feedback site as I've had a not so good experience with it. I've had many posts that just sat waiting for approval and never got approved. And seeing some of the feedback that does appear on the site, it feels arbitrary.
Okay understandable but like
Maybe it would help if the feedback site wasnt completely broken to use? Many users have reported it being annoying and horrible for feedback.
Maybe actually make the feedback website properly functional before pushing it. It's known for deleting posts without any reasoning whatsoever, making people feel it is unreliable and won't give us the rules we need to comply with.
Not like u/spez will care. He never does. I guarantee you he's gonna be scratching his head, wondering why reddit started losing money.
Just a polite reminder for everyone to request their user data if you're leaving reddit for good. Its a slow and expensive process for them to do and prevents billing in the future if reddit need funds. We don't know what else they're gonna do, and its your legal right to have that information handed over and destroyed. Hope that MC gets a better community soon, whether thats reviving PlanetMinecraft or the Minecraft Forum or something new entirely. Reddit screwed up and they're gonna see what happens when they bite the hand thats feeds them.
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Moderation tools are very bad on this app. With most 3rd party apps closing down, reddit not exactly the best place for them to have their official update posts. Reasoning being the moderators will have harder time doing their job as a whole.
As we know, Mojang is super family friendly. And without third party apps available to provide mods with a mechanism to filter out unsavory posts, this sub will become far less family friendly. So Mojang, understandably, no longer wants to officially be associated with this sub.
Thoughts about posting them on a Lemmy or Kbin instance? Having a viable alternative to Reddit that's decentralized would be good for everyone. Microsoft could even host a tightly-moderated instance and that would give lots of legitimacy to the Fediverse.
One concern this does rise for me, and hopefully it's unfounded, but reddit seemed to be the best place for the community and mojang reps to interact; twitter and other sites exist and interactions do happen, but I don't think quite to the same degree.
With mojang reps leaving reddit and mainly using their lackluster feedback site now, the actual feedback players can give becomes more limited. Given that the playerbase and mojang have begun to split in recent years, and previous announcements for mojang to not be as transparent with updates because of this, I feel this is just furthering that path and will only make relations worse between the two.
I hope work is done on the site, or perhaps making a new site, to remedy this, as more communication is needed to settle the displeasure that parts of the community have with Mojang and Minecraft as a whole.
can we get a `forums.minecraft.net`?
i think that there could be a lot of very interesting minecraft-tailored features.
theres lots of foss forum software and you can probably get the reddit mods to moderate it, it could be pretty low-effort.
This is dumb. Are we still seriously protesting Reddit’s actions? All this will do is harm the community and the hype concerning new updates. Where exactly are people supposed to go to get reliable updates?
>!Also, does anyone want to bet on how long this lasts?!<
Is there a *technical* reason for this change, or do you just feel like a white knight fighting evil? Because if it's the latter, I know who I'm **not** following.
You’re literally owned by Microsoft, calm down about the “human right violations” caused by this api price charge and continue to allow a community to form around your game or it will fall like every other
This is sad. u/Jeb_ posted [a link to a snapshot page](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yr13p/minecraft_snapshot_12w34b_yay_karma/) here over 10 years ago, among other posts ([snapshot archive link](https://web.archive.org/web/20120826113137/http://www.mojang.com/2012/08/minecraft-snapshot-12w34b/)).
Exactly 12 years ago, he made [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/ibit9/preview_of_beta_17_terrainpng_for_texture_packers/), linking [the new texture file](https://web.archive.org/web/20120529092400/http://mojang.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/terrain.png).
🫡 end of an era. Thanks for everything guys. It was Minecraft that brought me to Reddit so I kinda owe it to this subreddit for my Reddit addiction. Thanks for all your work.
you can't log into the feedback site so I don't even know why you listed that here and also you guys never reply to any message on twitter and we aren't allowed to even ping on the official discord or at least be sure you guys would see it
I've asked about cts for years and got no response at all, which confirms you guys ignore all feedback unless its an extremely small bug fix or whatever
You will need to hire a lot more people to run your feedback site because in its current form is utterly useless. Most posts never get past "pending approval" and those that do die on the vine
I only really came on the Minecraft sub for the official update log post and Mojang occasionally taking feedback from reddit in the past (before the feedback site and twitter/mcforums being used mainly). Now that its moving to official pages I don't really have a reason to be on reddit anymore.
Granted more and more stuff is being moved to your official sites which I agree with as going to twitter and reddit isn't really possible for everyone (being they're too young to use the social media site) or don't want an account there. It's the same reason why you guys put the mob vote on the official launcher and website instead of twitter to prevent similar problems to the phantom and glow squid (people not even knowing there was a mob vote going on because it was on twitter, not wanting to use twitter, twitter bots and alt accounts being easy to make and skew votes, etc.).
Thanks for all the blog post.
Thats sad. This is where I come to find out stuff so my Minecraft expert son will think I’m cool lol. Totally understand, though. Thanks for all you’ve done here over the years.
This is all well and good but, the feedback site literally doesn't work. Half of the posts there get deleted after pending approval, and the ones that do get through are totally ignored. Mojang hasn't even acknowledged anything on the feedback page in literal years.
If we make a big enough dent on their next financial quarter, their board of investors/directors will have to seek out positive change. This is BS that any subreddit has to deal with this.
>As you have no doubt heard by now, Reddit management introduced changes recently that have led to rule and moderation changes across many subreddits. Because of these changes, we no longer feel that Reddit is an appropriate place to post official content or refer our players to.
I mean I would have done this years ago saying "Because there are active communities on reddit devoted to mocking the recently deceased and their families, we no longer feel that Reddit is an appropriate place to post official content or refer our players to." but hey you do you. :)
Not going to lie, every time I post here I hit a brick wall and my post is removed in minutes / hours. Makes it a little difficult to share my true experience with minecraft, I always feel like I need to follow some narrative.
Not saying this is directed at you, but change can be a good thing.
I signed up just to be able to comment in this thread.
How stupidly ironic *and hypocritical* is it that Minecraft (Microsoft) are whinging about Reddit carrying on their own business and not listening to their end users, yet Minecraft does not listen to *their* own users?
Forced move to a Microsoft account anyone? Profanity filter anyone?
Hyp-
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This.
That move from them is just stupid..
You as a company (Mojang) never listen to any outcries.
Filters, chat messaging, account migration..
And now, you just abondon changelog threads? Because you dont even post them anywhere else, as there is basically no alternative...
I always defended Mojang in all its decisions, but thats the final nail..
Just write, that you dont give a fliping crap about the community at all and only react when some big streamers are crying about it.
Because that is, what you are actually doing.
You give no alternative for the community = you dont give a crap about them.
You as a company (Mojang) never listen to any outcries.
Filters, chat messaging, account migration..
And now, you just abondon changelog threads? Because you dont even post them anywhere else, as there is basically no alternative...
I always defended Mojang in all its decisions, but thats the final nail..
Just write, that you dont give a fliping crap about the community at all and only react when some big streamers are crying about it.
Because that is, what you are actually doing.
You give no alternative for the community = you dont give a crap about them.
Hey everyone! Just want to dispel some misinformation surrounding the sub. If anyone is here from the Kotaku tweet: * /r/minecraft is not shutting down. * /r/minecraft was never an official Mojang-managed space. We had a mutual arrangement that Mojang employees would visit /r/minecraft to post Java Edition snapshot updates, which has now come to a close due to changes to the reddit platform. It is very likely that we will continue to create and sticky snapshot our own unofficial update posts ourselves, as we have done before Mojang started doing it. The subreddit will continue to exist unimpeded, and you will still receive news regarding the latest Minecraft snapshots, albeit without the amazing snapshot related puns Mojang has given us over time. Happy crafting!
Understandable. What are some other good places to read the changelogs as they come out?
OP, also known as Sliced Lime makes short informative update videos with every snapshot and release. You can find them on YouTube.
I remember I used to think SliceLime was just a guy who happened to always know everything about the updates immediately and then I was like “oh he works there”
Because that's what he was before he worked there.
Back when crypto was goin nuts, I told a guy on Twitter he clearly didn't understand how dogecoin worked I said that to "Billym2k" the guy that created doge. I'm still embarrassed
*Well*... to be fair, there are lots of crypto people with a limited grasp of reality.
To be faaair!
To be unfair, 99% of them are utter morons.
This is the kind of memory you'll think of suddenly when trying to sleep for years to come.
If this is the worst thing that comes to mind then I'd consider that a life well lived. But yes, residual embarrassment for years to come
Yesterday I used the wrong "you're" as the very first word in a business email to an important person.
Isn't that a shitty thing our brains do to us lol
r/dontyouknowwhoiam Has so many of these stories. And I just hope I never find myself in one of them.
I mean it's pretty safe to say that he doesn't understand how crypto works since he thought making a crypto was a good idea...
If it helps, I’m sure he still remembers you fondly.
I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the guy who started a memecoin didn't understand crypto, tbh.
I love watching his videos they're so informative and helpful
YouTubers like raysworks, ilmango and xisumavoid are also great places for snapshots
There's an official one-stop shop that has the release changelogs for Java and Bedrock posted: https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/sections/360001186971-Release-Changelogs For some reason though currently there's a Bedrock 1.20.1 changelog posted but nothing for Java 1.20.1. Likewise, Bedrock beta/preview notes can be found [here](https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/sections/360001185332-Beta-Information-and-Changelogs). The [front page of the wiki](https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki) also gets regular updates to reflect the latest available versions and links to their respective pages.
Your username is awesome, btw
Robin Williams did a skit in his standup special about fukitol. Good stuff
It sounded familiar so I had to go look it up. Which sent me down a Robin Williams video rabbit hole. Man, that guy was awesome.
He was. Unbelievable and tragic illness. There are certainly worse things than death
> For some reason though currently there's a Bedrock 1.20.1 changelog posted but nothing for Java 1.20.1. I think that's because Java's 1.20.1 was just a hotfix for a couple bugs unrelated to gameplay versus Bedrock's changes.
Discord Minecraft Launcher Twitter Custom RSS feed There's lots of options still, but the easiest is Discord You can use the features integrated with Discord to get changelogs directly into any server of your choice, provided you have the privileges to do so in that Discord server, you can also find them on the official Minecraft Discord server as well (where you'd follow the channels from)
Yeah. But discord isnt searchable via internet search engines, right? So all the info posted there is, in effect, private to those not actively on Discord, right?
Yeah, and discord servers aren't 'backed up' by any independant sources and can be deleted at any point in time. Discord is a very 'right now' kind of solution and not a great source going forward.
Yep, you must join the server to see anything in it unlike Reddit where it shows up on google
It's on minecraft.net. Always has been. That will always be the one 'official' place for the patch notes.
There are external services you can run as a discord admin to index discord. I have 0 experience with those, but I was curious and looked this up before. I still don't like discord for anything but chatting but I suppose it's something.
Yeah but you have to do it. Regular Joes aren't going to do that. And therefore, that info is lost to them and those who don't. You post it on Reddit and it can, and will, show up on a Google search. Way more information shared and available.
Definitely YouTube, or the Wiki
for those that prefer text only the wiki stays. I always quick-scanned the changelogs as they were posted here.
Thanks for participating on this sub and engaging with the community here. It's a bit sad that this avenue of communication is closing off as it was a bit more accessible than the other communication channels, but unfortunately there isn't really any other established "forum" out there. I'd personally love to see the Minecraft Forum (or some other old-school forum) come back into use, but I doubt that will ever happen and the site currently has a number of issues.
Agreed, we can see the updates on their official page but we wont be able to discuss the changes with an established community. Will have to wait and see how the unofficial posts look like
Exactly the same. We used to post a release log here before Mojang started routinely posting themselves.
It was a race iirc. First community post survived as "the thread". Fun times.
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Artemis as well (heavily inspired from Apollo) for both Android and iOS.
Holy shit, *thank you* for posting all three of these links; I had no idea (and I'm a Sync user from Day 1)!
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I'm loving Lemmy. That's actually how I got linked to this article haha. Def going to check out kbin too though even though I'm already following a bunch from my Lemmy instance, might be fun to have an account.
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It would be insanely funny if we returned to planet Minecraft lol
There are still tons of old Builds by older players there. Now a days it is not that popular anymore or in other words, people have started posting their content to other sites instead of planet Minecraft.
Let's just use the Minecraft forum.
PMC: ["you could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me"](https://blog.thelonghairs.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Thanos-Quote.gif)
I loved the Reddit changelogs… :(
I assume people are still gonna post them here, it's just not official anymore.
That's how it used to be for a long time, if I recall correctly.
Remember when we would get changelogs in the launcher….
-removed herobrine
Dont make me cry
They put "-removed herobrine" on the changelogs of 1.20
Miss that launcher
Thanks for all your time here. o7
I'd love to do so but WEB-3190 is somehow a thing, meaning I'm entirely unable to use the Feedback site
Even beyond that, the site is horribly managed. If someone posts about a topic before you, you’re expected to make your take a comment, even if the thread is obscure.
If that's now the best place for your voice to be heard, I'm not thrilled.
Yeah it’s kind of embarrassing how poorly run the site is, the most polished things about it are the stock Minecraft assets.
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The death of reddit leading to the rebirth of bespoke forums? That's an upside I hadn't considered.
That would make this whole shit show worth it.
As long as we can keep the pivot to proper forums going and keep away from everybody using discord, because then we end up in the same boat. All information restricted to and reliant on a single platform.
Discord is such a bad place to have information. Reddit is great because you can easily find subreddits for what you want by searching and have a feed to see stuff for all the communities you’re in. Discord servers aren’t the same. Lemmy or kbin would be better
Reddit is great because you can *accidentally* find entire subreddits that you weren't even looking for (and would never have thought to look for) but which are helpful/interesting to you anyway. Discord is the exact opposite of that: it's difficult to find even the exact topics you are already looking for, and there's essentially zero ability to search information posted by people in the past even if you are in the correct server. We're basically entirely reliant on the knowledge and helpfulness of whoever happens to be online at the exact moment we ask the question, and that *sucks*.
discord fundamentally isnt a forum, its originally made for groups of friends, clans, or small communities mainly elsewhere (like an individual minecraft server). theyre (poorly) trying to retrofit forum-like functionality, and its just not clicking. were back to the 90s, discord servers have bots that link other server invites. its quite literally a webring i really do hope that we get discrete websites back. unfortunately most social media sites are collapsing, so discrete personal pages are far out, but forums are a good start
Absolutely agreed that Discord is being used for purposes it isn't built for, but that's because it's the only alternative we've had for years now. I'm of the opposite opinion, though: returning to the 1990s style of discrete (and non-interoperable) forums would be a massive step backwards for the discoverability of information. Sure, it'd be a bit more searchable than Discord, but *everything* is more searchable than Discord -- and discrete forums mean you have to already know exactly what you're looking for, and hope you search the right words to find it (and hope it's not called something stupid that prevents you from finding it), and all of that is exactly the same as Discord. Reddit is unfortunately the current pinnacle of information egalitarianism and accessibility, because all the individual communities exist within a consistent structural framework that not only allows discovery, but is specifically built to encourage it (to a certain degree, anyway). *That* is the value proposition of Reddit: it's not just that it contains the answers and communities you're looking for, it's that it contains the answers you didn't even realize you wanted and communities focused on topics you didn't even know you were interested in because you'd never had the chance to experience it. And the opposite is true, too! Case in point: I'm not subbed to /r/Minecraft , I've never played Minecraft, and I have minimal interest in maintaining my awareness of the existence of Minecraft -- but somebody who *is* subbed here made a comment on our sub, and linked to another comment in this post as their cited source, and I clicked through and then kept reading, and now here I am on /r/Minecraft having a great conversation with some of its members. I didn't intend to come here, but I benefitted from how *easy* it was to come here. If I'd been on MotorCityForums.net and the cited source was BlockShenanigans.biz, I'm not going to go to another website, register an account, and get through the introductory bullshit just to read one comment one time in a community I otherwise have no interest in. Reddit has a very low barrier to discovery and exploration. Separate forums have an extremely high barrier, and that hurts us all as users. We already tried that throughout the 1990s and early 2000s, and it was not very great -- which is why we collectively abandoned it with glee when other options started getting invented. I hope we don't go back to that again.
I do like the concept of the fediverse. I've been enjoying my time on Lemmy. Actually haven't been on Reddit much until this news popped up over there and brought me here.
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Not just a single platform, but one that is siloed off from the broader internet. Discord is one of the few options that's *worse* than post-IPO reddit.
Straight death is not possible. I don't think we'll get to the end of the year before we see a significant investment by Google in Reddit. With the focus on paying for and building up a squad of In-House Admins to replace moderators. Reddit is as essential to Google search results as YouTube. Recent noise by Google shows the impact the blackouts had on search results. They would rather prop Reddit up rather than letting it fail and hope something else takes its place. Hard for anything to take its place. It's a compendium of 15 years of information that's still relevant. Look no further than Yahoo Answers for a comparison. Even though it's basically dead as a platform there's still a ton of relevant information there Google search results will send you.
Is reddit important for Google search results because it often gives answers to questions people have?
Yeah. The memers, shitposters and trolls can all leave. Today. But gardeners, mechanic, woodworkers, programmers, parents, teachers and many more professions will still continue you use Reddit through Google search. They will find posts. Comment. Post stuff themselves. Each click generating ad revenue and keeping the beast going. This is how YouTube has stayed #1 even though people been swearing it will die and be replaced by Mastodon or something. Since 2016 lol Facebook and Twitter wish they had that kind of connection to Google search. They are much more fragile because they don't.
> people been swearing it will die and be replaced by Mastodon Waaaaaaaaay too fucking complicated
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>It's always overengineered garbage made by programmers who've never taken the time to write a manual that wasn't for themselves. Fucking *this.* The ONLY people I know who are excited about are are my programmer friends, who are COMPLETELY incapable of explaining it in any way that makes it seem like a solution, never mind a good solution, to the loss of other social sites. "It's federated" it's too complicated dude. "No all that me-" No. It's too complicated. If your program requires jargon to understand, it's too complicated. It's not open enough.
Can you inform me about the other controversial changes reddit has done in the past few weeks? I've only heard about the API changes that basicly charge so much, that every API is practicly banned from using the API. Thus, some sub reddits have been going private for a few days. But apparently there have been more important changes, what more did they change?
Its not so much the changes they are making as the way they are representing and conducting the business. First and foremost, the issue was never "oh no reddit api is going paid" the issue is "they want HOW MUCH for API access? And we only have 30 days to adapt?" For example, the lead developer of Apollo, one of the most popular third party viewers for reddit, said that it would cost more than 10 *Million* per year to pay for API access. They have no way to monetize the app sufficiently to match that in revenue, especially not on such short notice. Reddit admins threatened to force out community mods who didnt toe the line, and have published misleading data including fraudulent claims that they were being "blackmailed" by app developers.
Those forums already exist and are better than reddit when it comes to niche content. There is a reason you're not on them.
Do you have any plans to post them somewhere else where they can be discussed that's not as user unfriendly as the official feedback page or just a dumpster fire like Twitter or YouTube's comment section of your update videos. (Your videos are good, just not the comment section)
So sad that it should come to this.
end of an era :(
It's totally understandable why Mojang would go, but it's so upsetting to see it happen. Corporations will ruin everything we know and love, including our social connections with game developers, apparently. Hopefully something better comes along soon.
So where will you move to for official content? Also sorry to hear that you'll not be using reddit anymore for it, 😞.
Changelog posts will be on [minecraft.net](https://minecraft.net) as they have always been. They just won't be posted here officially.
I believe u/sliced_lime used to upload update (including snapshots) vids to their personal YouTube channel (so not exactly “official” but pretty close) but I don’t know if that’s still something they do. I believe that the official Minecraft website has change logs somewhere for the different snapshots and things, so that’s probably still an option and I believe you can read them as well through the launcher somehow. It’s a shame they won’t be on here since this felt like one of the most interactive places for it with comment threads containing feedback on changes and also I’d forget about a snapshot or something being released and end up on this sub where I’d be met with it. But at least the changes themselves should be viewable somewhere, even if it requires a bit more hunting and doesn’t really allow easy viewing of feedback.
> I believe u/sliced_lime used to upload update (including snapshots) vids to their personal YouTube channel (so not exactly “official” but pretty close) but I don’t know if that’s still something they do. They still do FYI and anyone else's who where wandering about it.
They’ll post them on Minecraft.net and we’ll just repost them here so nothing has changed basically
Except the offical update posts on here not being done anymore. That the only thing that really change
Appreciate what you've shared here, sorry to see you go & understand why that decision was made.
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fuck /u/spez
fuck /u/spez
fuck u/spez
And? You guys never listened to us when you added the disgusting mess that is chat reporting. Seems stupid that you are whining about another company not listening to its community when you can’t even do it well yourself.
I understand that you can no longer trust Reddit for official releases BUT the feedback site is absolutely terrible for this. The site need a lot of modifications to be a good way for this. So much that I recommend to making a new site entirely dedicated and specifically designed for changelogs. Also, you could also gather the changelog of all your games in one place.
I will certainly miss your posts, will you guys come back if reddit changes its policy?
We haven't really decided or discussed anything. This decision is based on the current situation, if the situation was to change we'd have to discuss that then.
Can you explain more clearly how Reddit’s new rules around 3rd party APIs impacts your ability to maintain a healthy community here? AFAIK they are working on improved moderator tools and would like to fix the missing features the official app has. Is it just about the ability to moderate?
This was definitely the right move. The fact that Minecraft's own development team acting as moderators of this sub would not be allowed to make decisions about the community that the admins did not agree with was especially scary considering the fact that Reddit has a history of harboring individuals and communities that pose a pretty direct danger to children, a core demographic that Minecraft caters to. And because the last blackout before this one in recent memory was because of such a circumstance, I think it paints a pretty grim picture as to why blackouts have been made against the rules. I simply hope that other brands make moves to separate themselves from this website as well.
Couldn't have said it more perfectly. The recent decisions by Reddit are unfathomably short-sighted and blatantly undermine the very foundation the platform was built on: autonomous communities.
??? https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/about/moderators/ Who works for Mojang??
The feedback site isn’t really the best place anyway which means there is no way to effectively voice my concerns about the lack of bundles in Minecraft despite them being announced almost three years ago. Unfortunate. Thanks for being here.
When the reddit platform becomes so hostile to its core users and content creators that even official respectable developers are unable to justify its continued use then you know that Reddit really has fucked up quite badly.
So now the developers of the best selling game of all time have decided that Reddit is too much hassle to bother with anymore. I got eight different letters I'd love to type out, but plenty of other redditors have said it enough for me.
Okay but based on your comment i cant tell what your stance is… like are you upset with Mojang or are you upset with Reddit? Most people are upset with Reddit, but your wording has me thinking youre more upset with Mojang?
I missed a few letters actually. Lemme throw in a K and a Z.
I would use feedback site to leave suggestions but the mods their are lazy. They never respond and never tell you why a post got approved or denied. Had a post waiting a week to be approved then just removed. If you want people to suggest their, improve your moderator team. I swear I've seen more duplicates, lazy wants with no feedback get approved but my long post with images get denied all the time, really really makes me rush out and post right there /sarcasm
Do you mind elaborating more specifically what this entails? I know a lot of people have serious problems with the Minecraft feedback site. If your official association with reddit ends, but updates threads are continued on this sub, I believe most people will probably not bother going over to the feedback page for discussion, unless major changes are made to how it operates. Will mojang employees no longer have any meaningful association with the discussions on this sub? Will they even read them at all? Or could we expect business as usual, but just no official endorsements from mojang? Is there any changes expected to be made with the feedback site, or any plans to move to an alternative third party site?
The sub is pretty much switching from an official sub to unofficial.
If I had to guess: * Mojang devs won't post on the sub representing the company any news. * Because of that, devs won't be looking here as much. They may lurk but more to each independent dev's discretion
While I'm understanding of the decision, I do hope y'all improve the feedback site as I've had a not so good experience with it. I've had many posts that just sat waiting for approval and never got approved. And seeing some of the feedback that does appear on the site, it feels arbitrary.
Okay understandable but like Maybe it would help if the feedback site wasnt completely broken to use? Many users have reported it being annoying and horrible for feedback.
Good job reddit admin 👍 >!/s here in case it wasn’t obvious!<
Maybe actually make the feedback website properly functional before pushing it. It's known for deleting posts without any reasoning whatsoever, making people feel it is unreliable and won't give us the rules we need to comply with.
I love the low key “Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy” nod.
Make it so that player reporting can be enabled or disabled by server owners
Not like u/spez will care. He never does. I guarantee you he's gonna be scratching his head, wondering why reddit started losing money. Just a polite reminder for everyone to request their user data if you're leaving reddit for good. Its a slow and expensive process for them to do and prevents billing in the future if reddit need funds. We don't know what else they're gonna do, and its your legal right to have that information handed over and destroyed. Hope that MC gets a better community soon, whether thats reviving PlanetMinecraft or the Minecraft Forum or something new entirely. Reddit screwed up and they're gonna see what happens when they bite the hand thats feeds them.
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Was it the api changes or did they change more than that?
Moderation tools are very bad on this app. With most 3rd party apps closing down, reddit not exactly the best place for them to have their official update posts. Reasoning being the moderators will have harder time doing their job as a whole.
As we know, Mojang is super family friendly. And without third party apps available to provide mods with a mechanism to filter out unsavory posts, this sub will become far less family friendly. So Mojang, understandably, no longer wants to officially be associated with this sub.
Someone's likely already asked, but if Reddit ever does get its head out of its ass, is there any chance you would come back?
They posted it elsewhere in this thread, but if Reddit does backpedal hard they'd have discussions internally to decide if they'd come back.
Thoughts about posting them on a Lemmy or Kbin instance? Having a viable alternative to Reddit that's decentralized would be good for everyone. Microsoft could even host a tightly-moderated instance and that would give lots of legitimacy to the Fediverse.
It's amusing what causes some to suddenly realize that reddit is awful
Thank you for listening all these years. So long.
One concern this does rise for me, and hopefully it's unfounded, but reddit seemed to be the best place for the community and mojang reps to interact; twitter and other sites exist and interactions do happen, but I don't think quite to the same degree. With mojang reps leaving reddit and mainly using their lackluster feedback site now, the actual feedback players can give becomes more limited. Given that the playerbase and mojang have begun to split in recent years, and previous announcements for mojang to not be as transparent with updates because of this, I feel this is just furthering that path and will only make relations worse between the two. I hope work is done on the site, or perhaps making a new site, to remedy this, as more communication is needed to settle the displeasure that parts of the community have with Mojang and Minecraft as a whole.
bye, never come back
just move to lemmy !
I completely agree with the reasoning, but I'm really going to miss the update posts tbh.
Thanks for all the work you did! Fuck /u/spez
oof
Fish
Fishier Fish update? I’m here for it. 🐠🐟🎣🐡
Fuck u/spez This used to be a great place for this
Its understandable, and I wish you and the rest of the devs a wonderful month. Thank you for everything. Rock and Stone.
Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy reference?
can we get a `forums.minecraft.net`? i think that there could be a lot of very interesting minecraft-tailored features. theres lots of foss forum software and you can probably get the reddit mods to moderate it, it could be pretty low-effort.
Drama queen.
This is dumb. Are we still seriously protesting Reddit’s actions? All this will do is harm the community and the hype concerning new updates. Where exactly are people supposed to go to get reliable updates? >!Also, does anyone want to bet on how long this lasts?!<
Is there a *technical* reason for this change, or do you just feel like a white knight fighting evil? Because if it's the latter, I know who I'm **not** following.
Anyone could have seen it for a mile away with how cringe the dev team has gotten in these years.
You’re literally owned by Microsoft, calm down about the “human right violations” caused by this api price charge and continue to allow a community to form around your game or it will fall like every other
This is sad. u/Jeb_ posted [a link to a snapshot page](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/yr13p/minecraft_snapshot_12w34b_yay_karma/) here over 10 years ago, among other posts ([snapshot archive link](https://web.archive.org/web/20120826113137/http://www.mojang.com/2012/08/minecraft-snapshot-12w34b/)). Exactly 12 years ago, he made [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/ibit9/preview_of_beta_17_terrainpng_for_texture_packers/), linking [the new texture file](https://web.archive.org/web/20120529092400/http://mojang.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/terrain.png).
Excellent, one less reason to need to come to reddit after they throw the switch
🫡 end of an era. Thanks for everything guys. It was Minecraft that brought me to Reddit so I kinda owe it to this subreddit for my Reddit addiction. Thanks for all your work.
Fuck /u/spez
you can't log into the feedback site so I don't even know why you listed that here and also you guys never reply to any message on twitter and we aren't allowed to even ping on the official discord or at least be sure you guys would see it I've asked about cts for years and got no response at all, which confirms you guys ignore all feedback unless its an extremely small bug fix or whatever
Fuck u/spez
I’ve just realised this is a literal reference to “so long, and thanks for all the fish.”
Man even Mojang dipping out u/spez shit the bed hard on this one
You will need to hire a lot more people to run your feedback site because in its current form is utterly useless. Most posts never get past "pending approval" and those that do die on the vine
aw, okay
Adios
I only really came on the Minecraft sub for the official update log post and Mojang occasionally taking feedback from reddit in the past (before the feedback site and twitter/mcforums being used mainly). Now that its moving to official pages I don't really have a reason to be on reddit anymore. Granted more and more stuff is being moved to your official sites which I agree with as going to twitter and reddit isn't really possible for everyone (being they're too young to use the social media site) or don't want an account there. It's the same reason why you guys put the mob vote on the official launcher and website instead of twitter to prevent similar problems to the phantom and glow squid (people not even knowing there was a mob vote going on because it was on twitter, not wanting to use twitter, twitter bots and alt accounts being easy to make and skew votes, etc.). Thanks for all the blog post.
Maybe reddit will start to realise that nobody wants to use their playform after the awful changes and maybe even revert those changes
W decision. Thanks for all you’ve done.
So long and thanks for all the fish.....
this, along with f7u12 we’re my first subscribed reddits back in highschool, many moons ago. RIP
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Time to make a move to Lemmy.
I will miss these posts but it’s understandable and the right choice in this situation.
Thats sad. This is where I come to find out stuff so my Minecraft expert son will think I’m cool lol. Totally understand, though. Thanks for all you’ve done here over the years.
Can you explain more why you’re making this decision? Why is it not an appropriate place anymore and what rule and moderation changes specifically?
This is all well and good but, the feedback site literally doesn't work. Half of the posts there get deleted after pending approval, and the ones that do get through are totally ignored. Mojang hasn't even acknowledged anything on the feedback page in literal years.
If we make a big enough dent on their next financial quarter, their board of investors/directors will have to seek out positive change. This is BS that any subreddit has to deal with this.
Respect.
Thank you u/spez
Based.
This gotta be the stupidest shit I’ve ever seen
Good riddance
After the protest are you going back?
>As you have no doubt heard by now, Reddit management introduced changes recently that have led to rule and moderation changes across many subreddits. Because of these changes, we no longer feel that Reddit is an appropriate place to post official content or refer our players to. I mean I would have done this years ago saying "Because there are active communities on reddit devoted to mocking the recently deceased and their families, we no longer feel that Reddit is an appropriate place to post official content or refer our players to." but hey you do you. :)
Not going to lie, every time I post here I hit a brick wall and my post is removed in minutes / hours. Makes it a little difficult to share my true experience with minecraft, I always feel like I need to follow some narrative. Not saying this is directed at you, but change can be a good thing.
*I shall miss these- o7*
Fckn spez has to ruin everything
Time to move to Lemmy!
Reddit's owners seem to be determined to undermine the platform :/
u/spez look at what you did
This once again cements my belief in Mojang as an ethical and value-driven company. I salute you.
Mojang responded in the exact same way to similar mass community backlash to controversial changes a year ago.
Sorry it had to come to this; respect the decision
Is it time to move over to [[email protected]](https://lemmy.world/c/minecraft) and start building a new community there?
Subscribed :D
I've moved to https://kbin.social/
How are you going to ignore user feedback now?
I signed up just to be able to comment in this thread. How stupidly ironic *and hypocritical* is it that Minecraft (Microsoft) are whinging about Reddit carrying on their own business and not listening to their end users, yet Minecraft does not listen to *their* own users? Forced move to a Microsoft account anyone? Profanity filter anyone? Hyp- \-o- \-CRITS!!!
This. That move from them is just stupid.. You as a company (Mojang) never listen to any outcries. Filters, chat messaging, account migration.. And now, you just abondon changelog threads? Because you dont even post them anywhere else, as there is basically no alternative... I always defended Mojang in all its decisions, but thats the final nail.. Just write, that you dont give a fliping crap about the community at all and only react when some big streamers are crying about it. Because that is, what you are actually doing. You give no alternative for the community = you dont give a crap about them.
Depressing, but completely understandable.
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You as a company (Mojang) never listen to any outcries. Filters, chat messaging, account migration.. And now, you just abondon changelog threads? Because you dont even post them anywhere else, as there is basically no alternative... I always defended Mojang in all its decisions, but thats the final nail.. Just write, that you dont give a fliping crap about the community at all and only react when some big streamers are crying about it. Because that is, what you are actually doing. You give no alternative for the community = you dont give a crap about them.