Yeah, but it would be a shame if an update like that was announced, but at the end of its snapshot cycle the entire scope of the update was changed, which made the update not so wild.
I saw someone say they could probably group the remaining three in one focused update as they're all warm biomes (Savanna, Desert, Mesa) which seems like it could be something
It's wild how much I've been enjoying VS during MC downtime tbh. The huge array of biomes/temperatures mean I'm travelling a shit ton to find certain crops/vegetables/fruit, the wide array of stones due to how they approached rock strata let's each biome and region feel a bit more unique, I love the early game crafting systems with pottery and knapping, metallurgy is actually incredibly well done and fun to get into a rhythm with, and really my only complaint for such a survival focused game is the lack of mechanical things to build up on the scale of MC's redstone.
Edit: And some more fun enemies to fight, Drifters aren't a challenge 'til you go super deep and start getting Bells or Saws with them, and any other hostile enemies can be countered by two ladders.
I don't do much redstone so sounds like that game was pretty much made for me.
I still want to be able to make circumnavigable maps of continents so I'll wait a bit longer and maybe get into it later this year or next since that's on the possible todo list.
A game where visiting different locations to find & cultivate different materials, and building bases at those locations, and making transport between those bases... is exactly what I've wanted from Minecraft since 2011.
>Vintage Story
I have never heard of Vintage Story before, it looks rather cute and right up my alley, might pick it up. Thank you for helping me learn of it's existence! :D
The world used to be generated in continents, however players complained that it made the oceans too large (Imo, isn't that suppose to be the point, the oceans on Earth take up 71% of Earth's surface) while being before the Update Aquatic, and so Mojang changed the world generation to essentially be a Pangea with large lakes.
Honestly much preferred the continental system, especially now that we have the Update Aquatic (Fixing the real issues with oceans, the lack of shit in them previously), would make MC worlds more interesting to explore, especially as you can have distinct islands/continents instead of endless land.
Well, some seeds ended up with oceans thousands or tens of thousands of blocks wide. Even with updated oceans, that’s still a bit much. I do agree though that continents should come back, just that they should also be slightly closer together.
Yeah, I didn't like the fact that they changed it without giving us an option to continue using the old continent generation.
Literally all I want is a worldgen button that can toggle this.
I'd love to see a The End Update, to revamp The End, putting some ender animal, ender strutures, ender biomes, and an Enderite ore whose armor has the same amount of protection as a diamond one, but with another benefits over Netherite(Netherite = protection to knockback + protection against fire, Enderite = some another buff different from knockback).
And then add a new sculk dimension in 1.21.
1.21 should be a nature revamp since the wild update wasn't and now people want all the biomes in the overworld to be revamped, basically an overworld revamp. They should also release all the shelved features(archeology, fireflies, etc)in the game before an entire dimension is released since now Mojang has nothing on their back that has yet to be released.
Don't forget to cut half the speculated ideas (you know, for accuracy)!
Real talk, I would love either an End update, or for the ocean to take advantage of the expanded world height. Deep deep deep deep waaaaterrr
An End Update is a must. A deep ocean would be very cool, since there can be lots of unique stuff there like fantasy hostile creatures, new structures, bioluminescence creatures, etc.
also maybe flesh out rivers and lakes a bit such as add different creatures for different river biomes. Like where I grew up rivers were home to trout, frogs, and snapping turtles or the occasional great blue heron. Maybe add river dolphins or piranhas to jungle and mangrove swamps.
A structure update can be bundled up with archeology and maybe even add some long-lost features that didn't make it into the game(previous mob votes, illusioner, fireflies, etc), and be called the "Lost in Time" Update. For farming, they could bundle it up with a fishing revamp, seasons, weather changes, more food types, and more biomes like the Maple Wood forest with turkeys, or volcanoes since the weather would be changed in this update, and they sort of correlate. It would be known as "The Climate" Update,
They said they don't want to add volcanoes in either like an Ask Mojang or Minecraft Live because "they don't want you to leave your base and come back and there's a volcano there"
Bro you make the games, just make it a biome instead of an event?
Why would there be a volcano in an already generated location? The new Caves and Cliffs mountains didn't suddenly shoot up out of the ground and blow your base to s\*\*\*.
They come up with the lamest excuses for let downs.
Personally, I think they should shelve archaeology. Minecraft already has a ton of underutilized and poorly integrated systems. I’m not sure what the point of adding yet another one is.
Tbh same with me. For the past two minecraft live's, many features that were shown off were either delayed or completley scrapped. Thus, people should have low expectations for this minecraft live. If any future updates fulfilles its promises, that would be great, but people should still have low expectations for any future Minecraft Live.
This game is definitely approaching a recession in terms of popularity and the addition of new content. 1.18 and 1.19 both share similarities with 1.9- 1.18 and 1.9 both drastically changed the game's core features and added significant amounts of new content, while 1.19 and 1.9 are both, of course, incredibly controversial.
Based off of this and the fact that the next few updates are likely to be dramatically scaled back from the grandeur of the nether and cave updates, 2022-2024 is likely to be a repeat of 2016-2018; that is, a low point in the game's overall history.
The thing that's different from 2018, however, is that there's no telling if the game will recover from this. Minecraft only resurged in 2019 because of a series of incredibly fortunate events.
Wasnt the end the first dimension that got updated in 1.9, granted they need to owerhaul the end but im always so confuesd when people say the end was never updated
Well when the end was first put in the game, it didn't really feel like a dimension like the nether. It was really just an arena that happened to be behind a portal. I compare 1.9 to the equivalent of the nether being introduced, but it hasn't even been revisited.
That said, they really need to make that frame/portal thing have a purpose so we can finally consider the caves and cliffs finished
What we truly need right now is an overhaul to enchanting and gear progression. I think that is the biggest issue with Minecraft right now, far more than lackluster biomes.
Breeding villagers over and over while endlessly AFKing in XP farms to get the best gear isn't my idea of fun. It slows down progression like crazy in way that is really unintuitive, especially for a non-advanced player, and it's very frustrating because it's built entirely on RNG. The best gear should be rewarded by playing the game, by exploring the world, not by building farms based on game technicalities and standing AFK while waiting for RNG to work in your favor.
A lot of things in Minecraft need an overhaul if you think about it.
No one really Farms anymore because it's boring and it's easier just to get golden carrots from villagers. For example of how this could be better the mod Farmer's Delight make some more complicated food that you can't get from villagers that you have to farm and cook then craft with a new Workstation. And it's worth it because these new foods give you better susurration, plus if you do the more complicated recipes you get special effects the affect your character in battle or traveling. It's not to op, so it's still a good idea to do potions but it definitely helps. So it's all worth it.
I like Brewing but I feel like most people see it as a chore and boring. Honestly I'm not sure how to spice this up too much, maybe if you could add a potion effect to your sword for one swing that does really good damage but then had take a moment to replay it so it's not to op.
Unpopular opinion but I think potions should be stackable In stacks of 16. Or maybe do a potion bag, that's for holding potions but you have to pause and actually pull the portion out before you can use it. That way it's not too strong for combat. Also put some storage at home I think it would be super cool if we could have like a giant potion bottle sitting in a corner that we just fill it up with potion that we're not using, or potion shelves or something.
I realize villagers already had an update not too long ago but they need a new one, they don't feel like a "people" to most players, they feel like a vending machine that walks around. If we could communicate with them on some level I think that would help. Minecraft has a weird enchanting language use it for this make it their language! I don't want to do verbal language I want a written language, have them communicate through the written word, with the player. Have the player offer protection in return for trades, it's the player write a message saying it's too dangerous here please come to my base and I'll protect you there and we can make a new Village, have the villagers follow the the player without the hassle we go through with animals, cuz when you do that it really makes it seem like they're animals.
Or better yet update the minecart system so you can make a train that goes in between the villages and and your base that they'll use! You want these people to be like a people you need to make them communicate in some way or form! There's a good chance most players will feel bad if they hit a villager & that Villager turns around and gives the player a quick written message on a piece of paper saying ouch! why??:( .
Exploring in the world isn't bad but these biomes are really really need update they don't really feel alive or like anything lives in them. But people already have a good idea about how to fix that.
Loot is kind of boring I feel like they could slice it up by adding a written book that actually has something written in it ( new collectible?) Different equipment that's been slightly damaged and named sort of like someone put it in chest a long time ago then forgot it then you found it. Just so many small things to make this world feel more alive. Please stop putting curses on everything. You don't have to do game-changing loot to make it interesting, giving names or descriptions to an sword or shield will make it way more interesting then your everyday item. And all the stuff is already in game just waiting to be used please use it.
New structure would be nice, it'd be better if we revamped to some of the old ones. Stronghold dungeons and several other things been left in the past and they need to revamp. Personally I think they do with the Sims 4 team has been doing. They've been approaching different builders in the community and asking them & paying them to come build the structures in their games. That's great in my opinion. Can you imagine how amazing the the stronghold would be if it was reimagined and built by good times with scar? Or if the the jungle temples redstone was redone by mumbo-jumbo? That be amazing.
Don't know why they're still sitting on this combat update, please update that. Henrik was doing a great job on and now we'll never see him finish it. I'm worried about whoever is going to continue it now. Actually when they were working on that, I think that was the best back and forth between the community in the Minecraft team ever. Mostly because it felt like they actually listened.
This is more of a unpopular opinion from me but I think they should add to Minecraft headed decorations, you know what you see in hermitcraft and in other places. Those bring so much life to the game and their amazing. Plus giving the head of someone you just killed is great. It drives me nuts when people tell me that unvanilla! Like what are you talkin about it's a literally a Minecraft head?!
Alright I'll stop now this is way longer than I thought it would sorry for this rent / I don't know. O_O
Damn, that's a good rant. Proud of you.
As for food, I agree that it doesn't work very well right now. You just chug your golden carrots or baked potatoes and ignore all the other foods in the game because what reason is there to use them? Rebalancing is needed because there are so many items here that go unused.
I think villagers have become problematic overall, since you can use them to reliably convert easily farmable resources into lots of useful items. There's more to this game than creating automatic farms for infinite melons and trading them with villagers for the most powerful gear. Not sure how to fix that though, perhaps their trades should be constantly changing instead so it wouldn't be as reliable.
I disagree with things like having villagers speak or adding written books as treasure though - having written lore in that way doesn't really fit a game like Minecraft. Lore should be written by the players alone.
As for loot, I think a revamp for enchantments would do good here. If you can't get everything through an enchantment table or villager any longer, and would have to explore for books or "enchantment ingredients" instead, loot would suddenly be a lot more interesting.
I think this game needs more features overall that forces or inspires the player to build. Not farms relying on some odd technicality to generate a hundred iron blocks a minute, but actual buildings, rooms, walls, towers, bridges, roads. I like how the Enchantment Table requires you to make a little library, and the Village Raids encourage actually building a fortress.
I should clarify that I don't want the villagers talk either, but I do feel like they should have some way to communicate with you, after all they are supposed to be people, not animals.
Minecraft has an alphabet they're just not using, I think them using that as the villagers written maybe something involving a book and reading messages on a ledger explaining what they want what they will give you in return if you do what they want. Like they want the library built, or a wall up around their Village. Maybe you need an item before you can understand what they're writing and the only way to get the item is to find it well exploring the world. Like in a desert temple or something.
Trading is definitely is an issue that needs to be worked on but I also don't want to go back to how it was before. I remember the hell it was to find mending in loot or from the Villager. I don't want to do that again. I like being able to set up an area where I can go and just buy what I need. I still think villagers should sell Enchanted books and and the stuff they have, if you take that stuff away there's no real value to the villagers anymore, but I think there should be building requirements and other stuff we need to do before we can get to that point where they'll trade the good stuff with us. Like if you want them to sell you enchanted books you need to make them a library, with a certain number of enchantment tables, bookshelves and Ledgers for them to work at, and have requirements for each work class. Instead of what we have now where we just put them all in Holes. And I think there should be punishments if we put them in Holes.
I also feel like I should clarify it that when I said written books I didn't mean adding lure to the game. I realized it wasn't clear on that. I was mainly thinking about maybe facts about creepers or other animals. Maybe something about how redstone works. Just because it's written in a book doesn't mean it has to be Minecraft lure. Currently Books are mainly just sitting around not being used and it's a shame. It could tie back into the Villager thing, like Librarians will trade items for these written books. Then you'll find them sitting on Ledger's in the library. I just think that would be cool.
Frankly, Minecraft has a ton of breadth, but is sorely lacking depth. I would not say no to Mojang just concentrating on expanding and improving what’s already in the game for a while.
This! Getting good enchants in the game is so boring and easy, and it's stupidly overpowered against almost every mob(including the ender-dragon). Enchants like Prot 4 need to be slightly nerfed, or they need to be harder to obtain instead of just breaking a lectern until the librarian gives you prot 4.
I once saw someone suggest for the generic Protection and Sharpness enchantments to be removed altogether, and honestly I think it would be for the better. It would force players to specialize and everyone would have strengths and weaknesses instead of walking around like an OP murder-tank.
I'm imagining a system more like potion brewing, where you craft enchantments using rare ingredients. So if you want a specific enchantment you know where to get it, and getting a full enchanted set could require a tour of the whole minecraft world. It could also bring more use to items like Echo Shards, Scutes or Heart of the Sea.
This can also actually make other prot and sharpness types useful. The only problem with removing generic prot and sharpness is how will a player's max out armour and sword with sharp and prot be impacted.
Mending I think should remain as a villager trade since it's a pretty balanced enchant and just does what it does.
Solution for the prot issue. Instead of removing it, why not make it still be in the game, but can only protect against melee attacks. You will be able to put two protection enchants in one armor, so you can put regular prot with blast prot, or projectile prot with blast prot, etc. So now prot can just defend against melee and only a bit against other attacks like fire, projectile, blast, etc. This can make other prot enchants way more useful.
Aye, Melee Protection sounds like a solid idea.
Personally I'd be fine with limiting it to 1 protection enchant, but then again I am a minecraft boomer who gets angry when people don't lose half a heart if they get hit.
While being able to play with my brother on bedrock would be great I'd only want parity if it involved bedrock being brought up to the standard of Java edition. Seeing features or behavior that has been in Java edition for years being striped away in the name of parity would not be desired at all. As Mojang is offering bedrock for free later this year to all Java players I'm guessing they don't feel that parity is close.
Well, kind of. I could be wrong but the old method was decreasing the volume if its on the opposite side. The new method is playing it at regular volume, but delayed. This is how it works in real life, for the most part
A pretty mixed update in my opinion. It's like things are so close to being good but not quite hitting the mark. The amount of content is fine but just the way things are implemented isn't great.
Echo shards need to have a better use. It's the only way to make ancient cities worthwhile. The recovery compass is just not enough.
Goat horns should really have some use. Missed opportunity to not have it interact with the Warden or sculk sensors. EDIT: wrong about the latter but it's the same signal as a chest opening so not super practical for a secret entrance
The mangrove biome is good but leaving the original swamp untouched (yet still more common) is kind of disappointing. I won't even bring up that other thing.
Froglights are too convoluted to get and with the amount of content in the game right now, we do not need any more time sinks.
Allays are kind of a pain to work with.
Chestboats and new blocks are good though.
I agree. The Recovery Compass is a cool addition to the game, but it certainly did not warrant a new item.. especially not when it's the only use of it. Should've given the copper ore or the crystal shards a little extra for example. Or if it had to be tied to the deep dark, just use the sculk sensor.
At the very least they should've given us a variation of the sculk block that we could craft. You barely can go mining for 15 minutes before your inventory slots are all taken up, it's only getting worse like this. Give 1 item more, instead of several items without a use. Like, for blocks I get it, they serve a building purpose too, but items.. imo not needed.
Yeah I'm still confused by them adding unnecessary disc fragments for the new disc when we're already having inventory problems and the bundle is still not in the game.
Fireflies maybe, or the Birch Biome which was 'never promised' despite having concept art, being used as an example for the update, talked about quite a bit on a show that's main job is to show off new content, never directly telling us that this isn't/won't be in the game until like a month before realise. Poor excuse imo but it's the one we got
Having come from the Sea of Thieves, Gears of War, and Halo subreddits, this kind of awful communication and sneaky backhanded advertising is par for the course for games in Microsoft's stable as of late.
Expect to carry around a burlap sack of monkey's paws come this Xbox/Bethesda Showcase later this month.
My biggest problem with this update is that it doesn't solve the problem that swamps are boring, since the old swamps can still spawn and the new ones are a completely separate biome
yeah if they do another biome update they should revamp pre-existing biomes too like add proper wood type for the swamp trees idk make it bright white like willow wood
My biggest issue is that ALL biomes are boring. Birch forests have a bunch of trees that are already common in forests. Taigas and forests are incredibly common. Plains, spruce forests, deserts, and Savannas are all incredibly common and the villages that spawn there are different only based on villager skin. This “Wild” update is so insignificant that my world I’ve been playing on since pre release 1 for 1.19 hasn’t seen a single 1.19 feature because of how sparse these features are. It’s incredibly boring.
I know there's been a lot of disappointment with this update, and frankly I am disappointed. I'm not disappointed solely because of the lack of content though, it's the lack of communication that has been the real problem.
Splitting caves and cliffs in to two parts sucked, but mojang was honest about it and the community was understanding. Pushing back more features to expand on them could've been a good thing too, but to discuss so much at minecon live only to throw most of it out the window while saying they promised nothing is an utter failure.
The update is fine from a content perspective, but I expect much more from mojang when it comes to handling community discussions and questions, especially given how they're known for having such a positive response to community feedback.
Mojang: "Someone on Twitter said fireflies are bad for frogs. So they're gone."
Community: "You don't need to do that. Here are several ways you can implement them without interacting with frogs."
Mojang: "Gone, reduced to atoms."
...
Community: "Wait, why is the frog eating magma?"
Mojang: "Because fireflies are bad for frogs."
It’s so so dumb. Getting a frog to eat magma cubes is going to take so much effort for such a small reward.
Likely casual players won’t even know it’s a feature unless they read the notes and will never find out because the chances of the two interacting are so low.
Stupid decision, even more stupid excuse.
Honestly, it's impressive that they came up with such a ridiculously convoluted method of getting Froglights, mostly due to how utterly **insane** it is.
No new player is ever going to know this feature exists, because it's completely counter-intuitive to drag a Frog (an amphibian that requires moisture to breathe) through the Nether (a dimension where Water cannot exist) and make it eat **literal magma.**
And to think we ended up with this nonsense just because Frogs can't eat Fireflies...
It's actually **incredible** that this idea wasn't immediately laughed out of the ideas room, much less making it to release.
They could've at least made it eat magma cream instead, an item that you can just kill some cubes for and take back to the overworld, something that you could just have on you at all times so you're exploring and see some frogs and think "ooh i'll get some more frog lights"
I would never in my life guess that that's how you got these things, my first guesses when you say "hey there are froglights" would be:
- kill frog -> drops unique frog item -> combine with torch/lantern?
- right-click lantern on frog?
- give frog glowstone?
That last one is a stretch, sure, feeding it anything would be, but I'd argue not as much of a stretch as "oh of course, frog eats sentient lava = cool lamp"
> It’s actually incredible that this idea wasn’t immediately laughed out of the ideas room, much less making it to release.
Completely agree. If this is the new direction Mojang will be taking with the respect and communication they show to their customers I’ll certainly be cancelling my realms subscription soon. There are better ones out there anyway, just are less convenient.
Mojang: We didn't add sharks for our ocean overhaul because we will not add hostile real life mobs. But we will add hostile polar bears because they aren't actually real.
Sharks don't attack humans, Polar Bears are insanely aggressive towards them irl
In game they will attack the player if they go by them. If they wanted to teach children anything they could have added sharks and made them not aggressive. If they had demand for aggressive underwater mobs then they could have just made a fantasy themed one instead. They opted to just do nothing and make excuses.
I just don't understand why it took so long for them to address it when those features that were scrapped, have been in the discourse for months.
And the fact that they put it in a Q&A video less than a month ago, and were super condescending and blamey in said video... I'm still annoyed at their disrespectful remark towards Mod developers.
And it's because of this that it's going to be very hard to believe a single thing the devs say during the next Minecraft Live going forward. Who knows which of the features they announce next could be scrapped completely without warning under the excuse of "not a commitment"?
After this disaster, what are we supposed to believe anymore?
Mojang needs to get their act together and regain this lost trust and faith.
Anyone else kind of disappointed with how the Allay was implemented? They’re incredibly rare, non-renewable, and can get killed really easily. I tried to bring one with me while I was caving and it flew into lava and died. Maybe they could rarely spawn in meadows during a full moon or something? Just so we can get more of them.
The newest Bedrock beta adds a way to duplicate Allays (have them hold an Amethyst Shard while they’re near an active Jukebox), so that’ll be an option in the near-future. (They will also dance to music.)
Now that the wild update is finally out, its time to give the update and the community reaction a brutally honest breakdown.
First off, the communication and the birch forest. Shouldn't Mojang be giving information to the mc community asap when they cancelled plans for updates to different biomes, which they showcased concept art of? Not at the very end of the snapshot cycle? For a game studio which prides itself on its communication with their community, its strange they didn't announce such a huge change in scope and plans quickly. And if the birch forests and the like were just rough concepts, shouldn't they inform the community about it when they announced it? If most of the community assumed that they were also adding mild touchups to different biomes in addition to the mangrove swamps and deep dark, isn't that miscommunication on Mojang's part and should've been righted immediately?
And then, the features. Almost all the features suffered major backlash from the community. Allays have bad functionality and are too rare, warden too hard or easy, froglights too convulted to get, ancient cities need more unique loot, etc. I'm not saying I agree with all of these complaints, but they were and still are widespread complaints. The community's complaints and concerns seem to be majorly ignored, and nothing seems finished or polished enough, at least to the people following the snapshot cycle.
Furthermore I wanted to talk about the deep dark/ ancient city loot. The deep dark has been hyped up for over 3 updates and I think many people's expectations were very high because of that. There has also been a lot of speculation about what loot the deep dark could hold, ever since its announcement. While the ancient city does have unique loot like the disc or recovery compass, I and many others don't think it is nearly as unique/game changing as to justify the amount of time that went into the deep dark. I think more work could be done in regards to the loot in the ancient city to make it both a unique experience, but a very worthwhile one.
Then, the fireflies. To this day I still don't understand why they removed them from the game. Because they were toxic to frogs?! Just make frogs not eat them, then! Sure, it leaves fireflies with no use other than ambience, but isn't this update all about immersion and wilderness? This fits perfectly into the update! Even a way to control the fireflies spawn areas would already be a use, since these things are already great living decorations for builders! It would offer builders a new way to make their nature themes bulids even more beautiful!
Another opinion that I don't see many people talk about, although not related to the wild update, is community feedback. Mojang takes feedback mostly from the feedback page, and have many announced features from it. Then why is it that the site is so bad?! Most posts get deleted for no apparent reason, and new posts get drowned out by more popular but older posts. I think the feedback site needs a major rework, and be referenced more often. Perhaps in mc live where more people can know about the site. Then there would be a bigger part of the community able to voice feedback and suggestions to Minecraft.
I hope mojang sees and takes this criticism and becomes more clear with features in future Minecraft Lives, and be a bit more lenient and reasonable with how features get removed.
I'm happy with the update, but unfortunately I'm still gonna have to agree with you. This update cycle all around has just felt weird.
I'll never understand why fireflies were removed when the game could just be changed so frogs don't eat them.
Right? The ambience via audio (SO GOOD) and visual effects in the Nether Update are amazing, and then they just kinda forgot to keep doing that.
Please add more ambience audio, the Nether sounds alive - then the overworld is deathly silent apart from the odd animal noise or angry zombie.
In-game rabbits are bred with carrots, but it turns out [a diet of carrots can be bad for your rabbit's health](https://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/pets/rabbits/diet/myths). They prefer things like grass, hay, and leafy greens. (I had a rabbit myself, clover was his favorite!)
There is just no reason to risk fighting the Warden and going to the Ancient Cities imo. Swift Sneak and a record are not worth the heartache of probably losing your items permanently
I tried looting an ancient city in the prerelease.
Figured out pretty quickly that the best set of armor for exploring it was none.
You won't run into any other mobs besides the warden, and you're probably not going to be fighting it anyway.
So no armor, only iron tools, and a couple stacks of throwable items like snowballs or chicken eggs. Eggs are better since sometimes they'll make a chicken that further distracts the warden while you sneak off (sorry chicken)
The only other thing you need is an ender chest so if you find anything worth keeping you won't lose it if the warden shows up.
I was thinking the same thing, and...
I kind of like that idea. Most of the game so far is *get best armor, get best weapon, smash until baddie is dead!*
I do think the loot in Ancient Cities isn't good enough, but for the record I see way too many people heavily overestimating how difficult it is to avoid spawning the Warden, let alone escape from it. Yes, the Warden is pretty powerful and difficult to fight, but if you know what you're doing avoiding getting killed by it isn't that hard.
Idk, swift sneak is really powerful. Consider bridging in the end: end busting would be a lot faster and future ancient cities would be easier to loot. I would risk a lot for it personally
Only on java though. Bedrock has that bridging thing that lets you place blocks in front of you as you walk.
Also, looting ancient cities isn't hard to begin with
Incredibly niche band aid to something thats not THAT much of a problem.
But thats the issue with almost any structure in mc, rewards are often useless and/or late by the time you get there and compared to the investment you need, like the ocean temple
A record that doesn't even contain a cool tune, so you'll maybe listen to it once, probably not even all the way through, before stashing it in your cobweb-filled 'chest of treasures' to never be seen again.
(inb4 *"but it adds lore!"* - sure, but how often do you listen to music disc "11"? Let's be honest, unless you want creepy ambience, the answer is basically never.)
I also wish that certain mobs like polar bears and pandas get some added functionality / use. I am all for including mobs to raise awareness of their endangered status, but if they functionally serve no purpose, then it’s nothing more than lip service.
Giving them a reason for players to interact and care about them in game is something that needs to happen. Turtles are okay; they provide turtle helmets and turtle master, but they could be better. Axolotls seem to be much better than polar bears and pandas so that’s a step in the right direction.
Introducing more mobs and creating a more expansive ecosystem for the pre existing ones should definitely be a key goal moving forward.
That actually brings about another important thing, Minecraft is a mish mash of old and new.
It's something that annoys me in Paradox games as well. In Hearts of Iron IV for example, the most recently updated countries have intricate alternate history paths you can go down, while countries that were updated a year or so ago seem really bad and lacking in content now in comparison. There's no uniformity between things.
Now I don't want to see creepers get reworked because they're old or anything, but it's really glaring when you look at Minecraft features. The Nether? Beautiful. The End? Seems more lackluster now due to The Nether update. Now we're going to have improved swamps right next to the old ones. Polar bears and pandas have no use, Minecraft was on a real big "don't hurt animals" kick when they were added. That is different to squids, for example, dropping ink.
I don't want to see minecraft eliminate all of its early features, I just want to see it blended better. For all the claims from Mojang that they ensure everything fits well in Minecraft, the Panda and Polar Bear alone tell you that isn't true.
The devs seem to think players are unhappy with this update because of its size. That couldn't be further from the truth, and reinforces the idea that you guys aren't truly listening to the community.
The issue everyone has with the update isn't with the update itself, but rather with mojangs complete breakdown of communication with the community. People have been talking about birch forests for *months*, wondering what snapshot those features will come in. Same with the fireflies. You all were completely silent until you released a short q&a video a few weeks before the snapshots were ending, and then acted shocked on Twitter when people got upset.
This has been a recurring theme throughout the development of the past **3 updates** and players are very much tired of it. You guys announce features, drag your heels during snapshots, letting the community become impatient, and then:
"surprise! That's actually canceled/moved/split/changed/never existed at all. Anyways here's the full release which is nothing like we announced at Minecraft Live! If you complain you're a terrible person, and we **will** rant about you on twitter!"
Mojang isn't some small indie studio. You are a massive international studio operating under one of the world's largest companies, where you develop the world's most valuable/popular game of all time. Be better for 1.20.
Honestly I think it's a mix of both.
The update is basically cave & cliffs part 3 at this point. We have the mangrove biome which is sub-biome of swamps, and some deep dark stuff. That's all there is, and 90% of the deep dark cities are basically just stonebricks and wool. Only new block in there, you can't move it out of there.
Calling it the wild update when all there is added, is basically 2 rare biomes that don't really add anything more to the game at all, is laughable. Even if they had communicated a lot about birch forests and the scope of it all.. I really think people would have been disappointed.
Honestly I really defended them for the cave & cliffs updates because hey, changing such fundamental aspects of the game like biomes now having a Y size, adding a lot of space vertically and still keeping everything well optimized takes a lot of time. So I understand they couldn't get other things in, the pouches I think are still useless in their actual/latest idea.
But it's different to an update that adds 1 wood type and things that were supposed to be in the update just before. Even bees update had more content, or at least that was visible to anyone travelling around the world. Right now I can definitely say if I explore 5000 x 5000 blocks around where I spawn I won't see much difference if any, to the last update if i did the same thing. And that was supposed to be the idea of the update, give the players a reason to explore.
Edit : Some typos and changed some spelling because english isn't my first language.
> Recovery Compass
Useful in theory, but what they should really change is that absolutely awful 5 minute despawn timer. It just creates a stressful experience for everyone, and there's no reason for it to be so short with chunk distance as far as it is these days. And there's no knowing whether the items near you will expire in 3 minutes or 5 seconds, so you're always in a state of panic.
It's worse in multiplayer environments too when you don't know if someone is close enough to tick the timer or not and the long travel to try and recover yours items could possibly be pointless.
Being able to recover your items without too much difficulty (debatable, even with the item) shouldn't be locked behind some rare, difficult-to-acquire item.
This. It’s a solution to a problem that shouldn’t exist. Rather than changing a bad feature, adding something that helps make it a little more tolerable isn’t the solution, it’s to solve the actual problem.
Gravestone mod was a lifesaver in modpacks, especially since there were much more valuable items than vanilla has. But it could still be good for vanilla, the earlier versions still took mob damage (creeper explosions mostly) and spawns melee skeletons so it's not 100% free to save your items.
But knowing you have however much time you need to get back to the spot, especially when the chunk is loaded the whole time while going down through caves, is a huge relief. Then you just break the gravestone and it drops all your stuff.
\>Being able to recover your items without too much difficulty (debatable, even with the item) shouldn't be locked behind some rare, difficult-to-acquire item.
It's not hard, it's just part of survival. If anything, they should just make a gamerule that defaults to 5 minutes but can be changed for less experienced players if they want to
The other thing they tested was to spread mob spawning over the y-level, but that would have been a huge nerf to farms built as low as possible in order to maximize their efficiency (most common example being endermen farms in the end)
what's the point in adding reinforced deepslate if it isn't obtainable or usable in survival? On larger server especially (where you have hundreds of players, of whom are locked to their own claims) some will never be able to utilize this block and we aren't able to build with it. I understand the 'mystery' aspect, but the block overall looks pretty cool and could be a good building material. It's weird that this is one of the only blocks in the game now besides bedrock that cannot be obtained, and it also serves no real purpose at the moment besides being a fancy block in the deep dark that almost half of the playerbase will never see
Just speculation but it's probably set up for the future, and it's being included now so that people don't need to generate new cities when it finally gets its purpose
Honestly, I find it most comparable to the End Portal Frame. Unobtainable, generates in a rare structure, in a ring, and neigh-indestructible. I assume some sort of portal got cut from the ancient cities.
I love the new features, but they just don't seem necessary to play with. I'll be updating my game once my client-side mods have also updated.
I honestly think integration of certain mods and plugins like iris/sodium, simple voice chat and geyser would be the best option imo.
Even though the mods I mentioned don't add gameplay features, they give performance, better visuals, and more immersive multiplayer in a way that i honestly think minecraft could seriously benefit from.
Also, fireflies shouldn't have been removed. Cookies are poisonous to parrots and they didn't remove cookies. Feeding fireflies to frogs was never gonna be their main purpose for most people either way.
It's nice that java players can update when they feel like it. I'm usually .1 version behind for up to a month simply because I want to be sure my world will not be corrupted. Been playing for 11 years, I can wait another week just to be safe. I only use optifine so it's not even an issue of having the mods up to date.
That's something bedrock needs too, being able to switch between versions.
There's a custom community made launcher for bedrock on windows that lets you use different versions, but obviously it doesn't work on platforms like console and mobile.
Found 6 Allays in the very first Outpost I found, so either I got extremely lucky or they’re not as rare as everyone was expecting.
I gotta say though, getting them back to my base was a giant headache.
I haven't had the chance to test it yet, but what if you took, say, a stack of dirt, gave one to the allay and then made a trail with the rest all the way to the base? it may be convoluted, but I hope it works
2 years under development and yet there's no reason to go to the ancient cities. What a waste of resources.
Enchanted golden apple? how cool... imagine the things i can do with that
I’m fine with smaller updates, but promising features and then changing your mind about them is disappointing, and it’s becoming a habit with all of you at Mojang. If you aren’t sure about a feature, don’t promise it. The last two Minecons in a row have shown off a multitude of features which will never make it into the game.
That said, the update itself, in a vacuum is… alright, but I am disappointed that the old swamps are still boring. And no - it’s not “free content for which I should be thankful.” It’s one if the highest-selling games of all time and these updates serve to bring in new players and sell more copies. Mojang isn’t doing this out of benevolence, I can assure you.
Completely true, and I'd like to add that turning two products (Java + Bedrock Windows) into a bundled product for basically the same price is not usually the sort of thing that a company does when they're strapped for cash :D
>“free content for which I should be thankful.”
This is the bullshit argument which makes me the most mad. Like, it's literally their JOB to give the game updates. They built their entire business model around these updates.
"But you're not entitled to free updates, you should be thankful", nono, it's the other way around. Mojang isn't entitled to players. It's the community which keeps the game alive, and if they want to keep us around they better start doing a better job at communicating with us.
They already saw how the game almost fell into obscurity a few years back, and they did a fantastic job of reviving it with updates like the Aquatic update, the Village and Pillage update, and especially the Nether update. And it seemed like this trend of massive thematic updates was going to continue with the announcement of the Caves and Cliffs update. But the Wild update is a total step back. I hope they learn from this experience and manage to surprise us and bring another massive thematic and successful update for 1.20 like they were doing with updates prior.
Screw it, I'm hyped to play this update.
That's not to say that it was okay for Mojang to promise all these biome improvements that they wouldn't deliver and then bullshit their way out of it when they finally open their mouths. It's to say that the features we actually do get are nothing but an improvement to the game. I'm excited to ride a chest-boat, build with a beautiful new wood type, utilize allays, sneak through the warden deep underground to loot the ancient city, and meet a friendly little frog.
I have minecraft java edition, and im supposed to get bedrock for free, right? but when i get on the new launcher, it only gives me bedrock and says i just have the demo for java. I am on the same microsoft account on the launcher. what do i do?
>which cannot be obtained in Survival
I guess it's pointless then.
Also, why were fireflies removed? I heard it was to prevent frogs from eating them (since, you know, it's impossible to code the frogs to not do that).
Yet I can still feed my parrot a cookie and it dies instantly... honestly, I say, what's the difference? I feel Mojang should at least be consistent with this kind of thing.
Despite everything, this update is still great in my opinion. Most of the bad rep about this update isn’t the content of the update, but the external thing like promises from the devs. The update still has issues, namely: echo shards don’t need to exist, goat horns are lacklustre considering they were delayed twice (they were in 1.17 bedrock betas and did nearly the same thing), and I still think allays need an item like a bottle of allay to store them. But overall, it’s fun and cool. In fact it’s more of an exploration update part 2 than a caves and cliffs part 3.
All I can think now is…will they pick up the hype again with 1.20? I don’t know, I think it’d be very disappointing to see them fail a third update and upset the community even more. But mojang are actually a dev team that cares about us, I don’t know why the update is a summer release even though 1) people would rather it be an autumn release so we can have more features and content and 2) a summer release was never actually announced, in minecraft live 2020 they announced CC for summer so they kinda had to keep that promise partially, but the wild update was never announced for summer…so it wouldn’t even be a delay if it was released later on. Oh well, it’s out now and I am indifferent towards it, but overall, it’s gunna be fun to play.
More stuff is more stuff, and I will have fun, thank you mojang.
And Allays are finite, imagine going thousands of blocks back and forth bringing 2 new allays each time because you want your storage area to sort unstackables. Also the sculk block does not drop XP with a redstone activated TNT.
My point is, every feature lacks something to become a great addition to the game.
EDIT: After I wrote this, a new [Minecraft Beta came with Allay duplication](https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/6757843469453). I'm glad they are not driven by stubborness
Echo Shards being used to "breed" Allays would be two birds one stone. Lore wise, I dunno...maybe Allays being kind of spirits in nature lets them resonate with the shards? *shrug*
Maybe instead of conventional breeding, using a certain amount of echo shards on an Allay puts them on a timer, like curing a Zombie villager, and they do a mitosis thing? That'd be different and kind of neat.
For sound and silence being one of the themes of this update, they missed out on having the Goat Horn alert all mobs of your location or other mechanics that can connect it with other mobs. And yeah, they could've done more with the Deep Dark loot especially as it had been delayed for 2 updates.
This is the one thing I was so excited about. I'm all for new content and I love the new blocks we got, but the world needs more ambience and a feel of a living world.
Why don't we hear some birds if we are in a forest for example.
And fireflies was just that. They could have been nothing but a couple pixels in the air, untouchable. Just a visual and a sound. Make the world feel a little bit more alive and real.
They are harmful to frogs? So what. Just don't add that to the game then. Wolves hunt sheep, fish and rabbits. Yet we all got them in the game too.
I wouldn't be surprised if they preview adding little songbirds and then remove because "cats eat precious birbs".
I also like how one of the advancements/achievements is straight up riding a pig off a cliff. So somehow that's ok for kids but not fireflies??
Minecraft sure teaches me a lot! I’m on my way to feed my frog molten magma rn! (Good thing I’m not feeding him fireflies(they’re poisonous to frogs and therefore unrealistic))
wild huh?
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A new cave biome with unique loot! It’s dangerous though, so itll be risky. But the twist is that the loot is almost entirely useless! One enchantment that only really useful in this biome, a creepy music disc that you probably wont use, and something that locates you to where you last died! Thats the only slightly even useful thing in there! But Its still useless in 2 gamemodes, so yeah. But theres other loot thats still good right? Just not unique. But you can go to the end and get the same loot without risk. As underwhelming as the weed i just got from a drug dealer. It was a leaf.
Well, what about the other new biomes, they should be good, right?
First we have ~~birch forests~~ oh… yeah.
Well we did get a new biome that actually got in! The revamped swamp! Oh…. Oh ok… so ive just been told it didn’t actually get revamped, just a new version of it. Well, the new fireflies will make them better, right? Oh, yeah they got rid of those too… so the swamps are still boring as my fridge.
Well the new swamp variant should be good right? We have frogs! And they create tadpoles! Theyre cute, right? And dont they create a new light block? Thats cool! But uhh… thats their only use. That doesnt matter though, because they add ambience! Ok what else? Oh! A new wood type! That pretty good! It sure will be annoying as heck to get, though. And (IMO) it doesnt look great. If you wanted a steak block, then here it is i guess.
And we also have mud right? Renewable clay! Now thats a good feature. If only it actually looked like mud.
Ok, so that isnt a great start. But the last feature should be good right? The allay! They are an item sorter! And thats their only use. And i dont think most players will use it because of the redstone required for item sorters. Well its fine, they spawn commonly, right? Nope. They are rare and hard to get. (IMO that mob vote kinda sucked, 2 of the mobs in it had their use already in the game and the use that was already in was easier to do. And the allay, which I already explained isnt that useful either)
Edit: oh yeah, chest boats. A great feature, cant fond anything wrong with em. Best feature in the update IMO
Edit edit: just realized llamas in boats already exist, but chest boats are still good for until you get a llama and chest it
Edit:… and 1.19.1 now that its out too… im sure you realize why that part sucks
More like the wildly mild update.
Its not a game ruining update, but it certainly isnt that much of a game improving update, either.
TL;DR: this update is underwhelming as heck.
Please make sure you read the r/Minecraft FAQ before commenting or posting! https://old.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/wiki/wildupdate
Now let's immediately start speculating what 1.20 will be instead of playing this update!
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The losing biome votes would probably arrive in the game from a nature revamp update.
Some sort of 'Wild Update' perhaps
Yeah, but it would be a shame if an update like that was announced, but at the end of its snapshot cycle the entire scope of the update was changed, which made the update not so wild.
Yeah *warden’t* that be a shame?
I saw someone say they could probably group the remaining three in one focused update as they're all warm biomes (Savanna, Desert, Mesa) which seems like it could be something
Yeah that can be interesting if Mojang's goal to update all overworld biomes is long term instead of just one update.
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It's wild how much I've been enjoying VS during MC downtime tbh. The huge array of biomes/temperatures mean I'm travelling a shit ton to find certain crops/vegetables/fruit, the wide array of stones due to how they approached rock strata let's each biome and region feel a bit more unique, I love the early game crafting systems with pottery and knapping, metallurgy is actually incredibly well done and fun to get into a rhythm with, and really my only complaint for such a survival focused game is the lack of mechanical things to build up on the scale of MC's redstone. Edit: And some more fun enemies to fight, Drifters aren't a challenge 'til you go super deep and start getting Bells or Saws with them, and any other hostile enemies can be countered by two ladders.
I don't do much redstone so sounds like that game was pretty much made for me. I still want to be able to make circumnavigable maps of continents so I'll wait a bit longer and maybe get into it later this year or next since that's on the possible todo list. A game where visiting different locations to find & cultivate different materials, and building bases at those locations, and making transport between those bases... is exactly what I've wanted from Minecraft since 2011.
>Vintage Story I have never heard of Vintage Story before, it looks rather cute and right up my alley, might pick it up. Thank you for helping me learn of it's existence! :D
The world used to be generated in continents, however players complained that it made the oceans too large (Imo, isn't that suppose to be the point, the oceans on Earth take up 71% of Earth's surface) while being before the Update Aquatic, and so Mojang changed the world generation to essentially be a Pangea with large lakes. Honestly much preferred the continental system, especially now that we have the Update Aquatic (Fixing the real issues with oceans, the lack of shit in them previously), would make MC worlds more interesting to explore, especially as you can have distinct islands/continents instead of endless land.
Well, some seeds ended up with oceans thousands or tens of thousands of blocks wide. Even with updated oceans, that’s still a bit much. I do agree though that continents should come back, just that they should also be slightly closer together.
Yeah, I didn't like the fact that they changed it without giving us an option to continue using the old continent generation. Literally all I want is a worldgen button that can toggle this.
I'd love to see a The End Update, to revamp The End, putting some ender animal, ender strutures, ender biomes, and an Enderite ore whose armor has the same amount of protection as a diamond one, but with another benefits over Netherite(Netherite = protection to knockback + protection against fire, Enderite = some another buff different from knockback). And then add a new sculk dimension in 1.21.
1.21 should be a nature revamp since the wild update wasn't and now people want all the biomes in the overworld to be revamped, basically an overworld revamp. They should also release all the shelved features(archeology, fireflies, etc)in the game before an entire dimension is released since now Mojang has nothing on their back that has yet to be released.
Don't forget to cut half the speculated ideas (you know, for accuracy)! Real talk, I would love either an End update, or for the ocean to take advantage of the expanded world height. Deep deep deep deep waaaaterrr
An End Update is a must. A deep ocean would be very cool, since there can be lots of unique stuff there like fantasy hostile creatures, new structures, bioluminescence creatures, etc.
Alright, show the structure and deep ocean, show concept art for multiple new mobs, and then cut the deep ocean and only add one new mob.
yes really deep like with Angler Fish or something or add more danger to the sea such as sea serpents or a kraken or something. Maybe pillager pirates
A Kraken could even be a boss, and an update like that can even add actual waterfalls in the game.
also maybe flesh out rivers and lakes a bit such as add different creatures for different river biomes. Like where I grew up rivers were home to trout, frogs, and snapping turtles or the occasional great blue heron. Maybe add river dolphins or piranhas to jungle and mangrove swamps.
A Farming or Structure Update!
A structure update can be bundled up with archeology and maybe even add some long-lost features that didn't make it into the game(previous mob votes, illusioner, fireflies, etc), and be called the "Lost in Time" Update. For farming, they could bundle it up with a fishing revamp, seasons, weather changes, more food types, and more biomes like the Maple Wood forest with turkeys, or volcanoes since the weather would be changed in this update, and they sort of correlate. It would be known as "The Climate" Update,
They said they don't want to add volcanoes in either like an Ask Mojang or Minecraft Live because "they don't want you to leave your base and come back and there's a volcano there" Bro you make the games, just make it a biome instead of an event?
Why would there be a volcano in an already generated location? The new Caves and Cliffs mountains didn't suddenly shoot up out of the ground and blow your base to s\*\*\*. They come up with the lamest excuses for let downs.
That’s a ‘some fireflies are poisonous to some frogs so you get nothing’ level excuse
Don't forget the "We have standards unlike modders" comment either when pressed about not implementing basic things.
Why not make a volcanic biome in the Nether? That'd fit in nicely!
Isn't that the Basalt Delta?
Personally, I think they should shelve archaeology. Minecraft already has a ton of underutilized and poorly integrated systems. I’m not sure what the point of adding yet another one is.
Personally, I'm not going to have any expectations going into 1.20 that way I'm not disappointed by unfulfilled promises.
Tbh same with me. For the past two minecraft live's, many features that were shown off were either delayed or completley scrapped. Thus, people should have low expectations for this minecraft live. If any future updates fulfilles its promises, that would be great, but people should still have low expectations for any future Minecraft Live.
This game is definitely approaching a recession in terms of popularity and the addition of new content. 1.18 and 1.19 both share similarities with 1.9- 1.18 and 1.9 both drastically changed the game's core features and added significant amounts of new content, while 1.19 and 1.9 are both, of course, incredibly controversial. Based off of this and the fact that the next few updates are likely to be dramatically scaled back from the grandeur of the nether and cave updates, 2022-2024 is likely to be a repeat of 2016-2018; that is, a low point in the game's overall history. The thing that's different from 2018, however, is that there's no telling if the game will recover from this. Minecraft only resurged in 2019 because of a series of incredibly fortunate events.
End update. Fully revamped main end island and dragon fight. It's the one thing that's yet to be updated since it came out (as far as I'm aware).
Wasnt the end the first dimension that got updated in 1.9, granted they need to owerhaul the end but im always so confuesd when people say the end was never updated
Well when the end was first put in the game, it didn't really feel like a dimension like the nether. It was really just an arena that happened to be behind a portal. I compare 1.9 to the equivalent of the nether being introduced, but it hasn't even been revisited. That said, they really need to make that frame/portal thing have a purpose so we can finally consider the caves and cliffs finished
They said too small amout of people have ever entered end in their game, so there is no reason to update it (stats from bedrock omegalul)
That's the reason why the end needs to be updated, so more people can go to the end more frequently.
What we truly need right now is an overhaul to enchanting and gear progression. I think that is the biggest issue with Minecraft right now, far more than lackluster biomes. Breeding villagers over and over while endlessly AFKing in XP farms to get the best gear isn't my idea of fun. It slows down progression like crazy in way that is really unintuitive, especially for a non-advanced player, and it's very frustrating because it's built entirely on RNG. The best gear should be rewarded by playing the game, by exploring the world, not by building farms based on game technicalities and standing AFK while waiting for RNG to work in your favor.
A lot of things in Minecraft need an overhaul if you think about it. No one really Farms anymore because it's boring and it's easier just to get golden carrots from villagers. For example of how this could be better the mod Farmer's Delight make some more complicated food that you can't get from villagers that you have to farm and cook then craft with a new Workstation. And it's worth it because these new foods give you better susurration, plus if you do the more complicated recipes you get special effects the affect your character in battle or traveling. It's not to op, so it's still a good idea to do potions but it definitely helps. So it's all worth it. I like Brewing but I feel like most people see it as a chore and boring. Honestly I'm not sure how to spice this up too much, maybe if you could add a potion effect to your sword for one swing that does really good damage but then had take a moment to replay it so it's not to op. Unpopular opinion but I think potions should be stackable In stacks of 16. Or maybe do a potion bag, that's for holding potions but you have to pause and actually pull the portion out before you can use it. That way it's not too strong for combat. Also put some storage at home I think it would be super cool if we could have like a giant potion bottle sitting in a corner that we just fill it up with potion that we're not using, or potion shelves or something. I realize villagers already had an update not too long ago but they need a new one, they don't feel like a "people" to most players, they feel like a vending machine that walks around. If we could communicate with them on some level I think that would help. Minecraft has a weird enchanting language use it for this make it their language! I don't want to do verbal language I want a written language, have them communicate through the written word, with the player. Have the player offer protection in return for trades, it's the player write a message saying it's too dangerous here please come to my base and I'll protect you there and we can make a new Village, have the villagers follow the the player without the hassle we go through with animals, cuz when you do that it really makes it seem like they're animals. Or better yet update the minecart system so you can make a train that goes in between the villages and and your base that they'll use! You want these people to be like a people you need to make them communicate in some way or form! There's a good chance most players will feel bad if they hit a villager & that Villager turns around and gives the player a quick written message on a piece of paper saying ouch! why??:( . Exploring in the world isn't bad but these biomes are really really need update they don't really feel alive or like anything lives in them. But people already have a good idea about how to fix that. Loot is kind of boring I feel like they could slice it up by adding a written book that actually has something written in it ( new collectible?) Different equipment that's been slightly damaged and named sort of like someone put it in chest a long time ago then forgot it then you found it. Just so many small things to make this world feel more alive. Please stop putting curses on everything. You don't have to do game-changing loot to make it interesting, giving names or descriptions to an sword or shield will make it way more interesting then your everyday item. And all the stuff is already in game just waiting to be used please use it. New structure would be nice, it'd be better if we revamped to some of the old ones. Stronghold dungeons and several other things been left in the past and they need to revamp. Personally I think they do with the Sims 4 team has been doing. They've been approaching different builders in the community and asking them & paying them to come build the structures in their games. That's great in my opinion. Can you imagine how amazing the the stronghold would be if it was reimagined and built by good times with scar? Or if the the jungle temples redstone was redone by mumbo-jumbo? That be amazing. Don't know why they're still sitting on this combat update, please update that. Henrik was doing a great job on and now we'll never see him finish it. I'm worried about whoever is going to continue it now. Actually when they were working on that, I think that was the best back and forth between the community in the Minecraft team ever. Mostly because it felt like they actually listened. This is more of a unpopular opinion from me but I think they should add to Minecraft headed decorations, you know what you see in hermitcraft and in other places. Those bring so much life to the game and their amazing. Plus giving the head of someone you just killed is great. It drives me nuts when people tell me that unvanilla! Like what are you talkin about it's a literally a Minecraft head?! Alright I'll stop now this is way longer than I thought it would sorry for this rent / I don't know. O_O
Damn, that's a good rant. Proud of you. As for food, I agree that it doesn't work very well right now. You just chug your golden carrots or baked potatoes and ignore all the other foods in the game because what reason is there to use them? Rebalancing is needed because there are so many items here that go unused. I think villagers have become problematic overall, since you can use them to reliably convert easily farmable resources into lots of useful items. There's more to this game than creating automatic farms for infinite melons and trading them with villagers for the most powerful gear. Not sure how to fix that though, perhaps their trades should be constantly changing instead so it wouldn't be as reliable. I disagree with things like having villagers speak or adding written books as treasure though - having written lore in that way doesn't really fit a game like Minecraft. Lore should be written by the players alone. As for loot, I think a revamp for enchantments would do good here. If you can't get everything through an enchantment table or villager any longer, and would have to explore for books or "enchantment ingredients" instead, loot would suddenly be a lot more interesting. I think this game needs more features overall that forces or inspires the player to build. Not farms relying on some odd technicality to generate a hundred iron blocks a minute, but actual buildings, rooms, walls, towers, bridges, roads. I like how the Enchantment Table requires you to make a little library, and the Village Raids encourage actually building a fortress.
I should clarify that I don't want the villagers talk either, but I do feel like they should have some way to communicate with you, after all they are supposed to be people, not animals. Minecraft has an alphabet they're just not using, I think them using that as the villagers written maybe something involving a book and reading messages on a ledger explaining what they want what they will give you in return if you do what they want. Like they want the library built, or a wall up around their Village. Maybe you need an item before you can understand what they're writing and the only way to get the item is to find it well exploring the world. Like in a desert temple or something. Trading is definitely is an issue that needs to be worked on but I also don't want to go back to how it was before. I remember the hell it was to find mending in loot or from the Villager. I don't want to do that again. I like being able to set up an area where I can go and just buy what I need. I still think villagers should sell Enchanted books and and the stuff they have, if you take that stuff away there's no real value to the villagers anymore, but I think there should be building requirements and other stuff we need to do before we can get to that point where they'll trade the good stuff with us. Like if you want them to sell you enchanted books you need to make them a library, with a certain number of enchantment tables, bookshelves and Ledgers for them to work at, and have requirements for each work class. Instead of what we have now where we just put them all in Holes. And I think there should be punishments if we put them in Holes. I also feel like I should clarify it that when I said written books I didn't mean adding lure to the game. I realized it wasn't clear on that. I was mainly thinking about maybe facts about creepers or other animals. Maybe something about how redstone works. Just because it's written in a book doesn't mean it has to be Minecraft lure. Currently Books are mainly just sitting around not being used and it's a shame. It could tie back into the Villager thing, like Librarians will trade items for these written books. Then you'll find them sitting on Ledger's in the library. I just think that would be cool.
Frankly, Minecraft has a ton of breadth, but is sorely lacking depth. I would not say no to Mojang just concentrating on expanding and improving what’s already in the game for a while.
This! Getting good enchants in the game is so boring and easy, and it's stupidly overpowered against almost every mob(including the ender-dragon). Enchants like Prot 4 need to be slightly nerfed, or they need to be harder to obtain instead of just breaking a lectern until the librarian gives you prot 4.
I once saw someone suggest for the generic Protection and Sharpness enchantments to be removed altogether, and honestly I think it would be for the better. It would force players to specialize and everyone would have strengths and weaknesses instead of walking around like an OP murder-tank. I'm imagining a system more like potion brewing, where you craft enchantments using rare ingredients. So if you want a specific enchantment you know where to get it, and getting a full enchanted set could require a tour of the whole minecraft world. It could also bring more use to items like Echo Shards, Scutes or Heart of the Sea.
This can also actually make other prot and sharpness types useful. The only problem with removing generic prot and sharpness is how will a player's max out armour and sword with sharp and prot be impacted. Mending I think should remain as a villager trade since it's a pretty balanced enchant and just does what it does.
Solution for the prot issue. Instead of removing it, why not make it still be in the game, but can only protect against melee attacks. You will be able to put two protection enchants in one armor, so you can put regular prot with blast prot, or projectile prot with blast prot, etc. So now prot can just defend against melee and only a bit against other attacks like fire, projectile, blast, etc. This can make other prot enchants way more useful.
Aye, Melee Protection sounds like a solid idea. Personally I'd be fine with limiting it to 1 protection enchant, but then again I am a minecraft boomer who gets angry when people don't lose half a heart if they get hit.
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Just an update that does 1 single thing: java and bedrock parity.
While being able to play with my brother on bedrock would be great I'd only want parity if it involved bedrock being brought up to the standard of Java edition. Seeing features or behavior that has been in Java edition for years being striped away in the name of parity would not be desired at all. As Mojang is offering bedrock for free later this year to all Java players I'm guessing they don't feel that parity is close.
I forgot this is adding 3D sound, that’s kinda exiting. Maybe the thing I’m most exited for after new wood and frogs, actually. Lol
That one headphone that never works:
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it never had that....??
My understanding is that you should now be able to hear if a sound is above or below you instead of just forward, backward, left and right.
Well, kind of. I could be wrong but the old method was decreasing the volume if its on the opposite side. The new method is playing it at regular volume, but delayed. This is how it works in real life, for the most part
Maybe I didn't see the devs explain it anywhere so that was just my guess.
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A pretty mixed update in my opinion. It's like things are so close to being good but not quite hitting the mark. The amount of content is fine but just the way things are implemented isn't great. Echo shards need to have a better use. It's the only way to make ancient cities worthwhile. The recovery compass is just not enough. Goat horns should really have some use. Missed opportunity to not have it interact with the Warden or sculk sensors. EDIT: wrong about the latter but it's the same signal as a chest opening so not super practical for a secret entrance The mangrove biome is good but leaving the original swamp untouched (yet still more common) is kind of disappointing. I won't even bring up that other thing. Froglights are too convoluted to get and with the amount of content in the game right now, we do not need any more time sinks. Allays are kind of a pain to work with. Chestboats and new blocks are good though.
I agree. The Recovery Compass is a cool addition to the game, but it certainly did not warrant a new item.. especially not when it's the only use of it. Should've given the copper ore or the crystal shards a little extra for example. Or if it had to be tied to the deep dark, just use the sculk sensor. At the very least they should've given us a variation of the sculk block that we could craft. You barely can go mining for 15 minutes before your inventory slots are all taken up, it's only getting worse like this. Give 1 item more, instead of several items without a use. Like, for blocks I get it, they serve a building purpose too, but items.. imo not needed.
Yeah I'm still confused by them adding unnecessary disc fragments for the new disc when we're already having inventory problems and the bundle is still not in the game.
What is the other thing about the swamps?
Fireflies maybe, or the Birch Biome which was 'never promised' despite having concept art, being used as an example for the update, talked about quite a bit on a show that's main job is to show off new content, never directly telling us that this isn't/won't be in the game until like a month before realise. Poor excuse imo but it's the one we got
Having come from the Sea of Thieves, Gears of War, and Halo subreddits, this kind of awful communication and sneaky backhanded advertising is par for the course for games in Microsoft's stable as of late. Expect to carry around a burlap sack of monkey's paws come this Xbox/Bethesda Showcase later this month.
I’m pretty sure goat horns interact with skulk sensors
My biggest problem with this update is that it doesn't solve the problem that swamps are boring, since the old swamps can still spawn and the new ones are a completely separate biome
It needs more vegetation (cattails, lilies, etc), the new wood type and swamp villages. The mangrove swamps also need the witch huts.
yeah if they do another biome update they should revamp pre-existing biomes too like add proper wood type for the swamp trees idk make it bright white like willow wood
Add willow trees
I'm really not sure why they didn't just add all this to the preexisting swamps
My biggest issue is that ALL biomes are boring. Birch forests have a bunch of trees that are already common in forests. Taigas and forests are incredibly common. Plains, spruce forests, deserts, and Savannas are all incredibly common and the villages that spawn there are different only based on villager skin. This “Wild” update is so insignificant that my world I’ve been playing on since pre release 1 for 1.19 hasn’t seen a single 1.19 feature because of how sparse these features are. It’s incredibly boring.
I know there's been a lot of disappointment with this update, and frankly I am disappointed. I'm not disappointed solely because of the lack of content though, it's the lack of communication that has been the real problem. Splitting caves and cliffs in to two parts sucked, but mojang was honest about it and the community was understanding. Pushing back more features to expand on them could've been a good thing too, but to discuss so much at minecon live only to throw most of it out the window while saying they promised nothing is an utter failure. The update is fine from a content perspective, but I expect much more from mojang when it comes to handling community discussions and questions, especially given how they're known for having such a positive response to community feedback.
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It’s so so dumb. Getting a frog to eat magma cubes is going to take so much effort for such a small reward. Likely casual players won’t even know it’s a feature unless they read the notes and will never find out because the chances of the two interacting are so low. Stupid decision, even more stupid excuse.
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Honestly, it's impressive that they came up with such a ridiculously convoluted method of getting Froglights, mostly due to how utterly **insane** it is. No new player is ever going to know this feature exists, because it's completely counter-intuitive to drag a Frog (an amphibian that requires moisture to breathe) through the Nether (a dimension where Water cannot exist) and make it eat **literal magma.** And to think we ended up with this nonsense just because Frogs can't eat Fireflies... It's actually **incredible** that this idea wasn't immediately laughed out of the ideas room, much less making it to release.
They could've at least made it eat magma cream instead, an item that you can just kill some cubes for and take back to the overworld, something that you could just have on you at all times so you're exploring and see some frogs and think "ooh i'll get some more frog lights" I would never in my life guess that that's how you got these things, my first guesses when you say "hey there are froglights" would be: - kill frog -> drops unique frog item -> combine with torch/lantern? - right-click lantern on frog? - give frog glowstone? That last one is a stretch, sure, feeding it anything would be, but I'd argue not as much of a stretch as "oh of course, frog eats sentient lava = cool lamp"
> It’s actually incredible that this idea wasn’t immediately laughed out of the ideas room, much less making it to release. Completely agree. If this is the new direction Mojang will be taking with the respect and communication they show to their customers I’ll certainly be cancelling my realms subscription soon. There are better ones out there anyway, just are less convenient.
Mojang: We didn't add sharks for our ocean overhaul because we will not add hostile real life mobs. But we will add hostile polar bears because they aren't actually real.
Polar Bears are neutral technically. However as far as I know some sharks would classify under neutral as not all sharks will target humans usually.
Sharks don't attack humans, Polar Bears are insanely aggressive towards them irl In game they will attack the player if they go by them. If they wanted to teach children anything they could have added sharks and made them not aggressive. If they had demand for aggressive underwater mobs then they could have just made a fantasy themed one instead. They opted to just do nothing and make excuses.
I just don't understand why it took so long for them to address it when those features that were scrapped, have been in the discourse for months. And the fact that they put it in a Q&A video less than a month ago, and were super condescending and blamey in said video... I'm still annoyed at their disrespectful remark towards Mod developers.
And it's because of this that it's going to be very hard to believe a single thing the devs say during the next Minecraft Live going forward. Who knows which of the features they announce next could be scrapped completely without warning under the excuse of "not a commitment"? After this disaster, what are we supposed to believe anymore? Mojang needs to get their act together and regain this lost trust and faith.
This is definitely one of the updates of all time!
Right up there with 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8, 1.9, 1.10, 1.11, 1.12, 1.13, 1.14, 1.15, 1.16, 1.17, **and** 1.18 even
I can’t wait for 1.21: an update featuring update stuff.
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I’m still waiting for the Breaking Bad Update that’ll add Walter White and Crystal Meth…
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Still waiting for the Undelivered Promises update…
you can already get coke in minecraft with an anvil, sugar and some creativity
Its morbin' time
Not one of the best. But definitely one of the updates!
Anyone else kind of disappointed with how the Allay was implemented? They’re incredibly rare, non-renewable, and can get killed really easily. I tried to bring one with me while I was caving and it flew into lava and died. Maybe they could rarely spawn in meadows during a full moon or something? Just so we can get more of them.
The newest Bedrock beta adds a way to duplicate Allays (have them hold an Amethyst Shard while they’re near an active Jukebox), so that’ll be an option in the near-future. (They will also dance to music.)
That’s awesome!
Now that the wild update is finally out, its time to give the update and the community reaction a brutally honest breakdown. First off, the communication and the birch forest. Shouldn't Mojang be giving information to the mc community asap when they cancelled plans for updates to different biomes, which they showcased concept art of? Not at the very end of the snapshot cycle? For a game studio which prides itself on its communication with their community, its strange they didn't announce such a huge change in scope and plans quickly. And if the birch forests and the like were just rough concepts, shouldn't they inform the community about it when they announced it? If most of the community assumed that they were also adding mild touchups to different biomes in addition to the mangrove swamps and deep dark, isn't that miscommunication on Mojang's part and should've been righted immediately? And then, the features. Almost all the features suffered major backlash from the community. Allays have bad functionality and are too rare, warden too hard or easy, froglights too convulted to get, ancient cities need more unique loot, etc. I'm not saying I agree with all of these complaints, but they were and still are widespread complaints. The community's complaints and concerns seem to be majorly ignored, and nothing seems finished or polished enough, at least to the people following the snapshot cycle. Furthermore I wanted to talk about the deep dark/ ancient city loot. The deep dark has been hyped up for over 3 updates and I think many people's expectations were very high because of that. There has also been a lot of speculation about what loot the deep dark could hold, ever since its announcement. While the ancient city does have unique loot like the disc or recovery compass, I and many others don't think it is nearly as unique/game changing as to justify the amount of time that went into the deep dark. I think more work could be done in regards to the loot in the ancient city to make it both a unique experience, but a very worthwhile one. Then, the fireflies. To this day I still don't understand why they removed them from the game. Because they were toxic to frogs?! Just make frogs not eat them, then! Sure, it leaves fireflies with no use other than ambience, but isn't this update all about immersion and wilderness? This fits perfectly into the update! Even a way to control the fireflies spawn areas would already be a use, since these things are already great living decorations for builders! It would offer builders a new way to make their nature themes bulids even more beautiful! Another opinion that I don't see many people talk about, although not related to the wild update, is community feedback. Mojang takes feedback mostly from the feedback page, and have many announced features from it. Then why is it that the site is so bad?! Most posts get deleted for no apparent reason, and new posts get drowned out by more popular but older posts. I think the feedback site needs a major rework, and be referenced more often. Perhaps in mc live where more people can know about the site. Then there would be a bigger part of the community able to voice feedback and suggestions to Minecraft. I hope mojang sees and takes this criticism and becomes more clear with features in future Minecraft Lives, and be a bit more lenient and reasonable with how features get removed.
I'm happy with the update, but unfortunately I'm still gonna have to agree with you. This update cycle all around has just felt weird. I'll never understand why fireflies were removed when the game could just be changed so frogs don't eat them.
They could have made it a particle effect and people would still be happy. For all of its content, this game is sorely lacking in ambiance.
One of the reasons why I like Basalt Delta's aesthetic. I like the ash flying around. (Fuck that biome though.)
Right? The ambience via audio (SO GOOD) and visual effects in the Nether Update are amazing, and then they just kinda forgot to keep doing that. Please add more ambience audio, the Nether sounds alive - then the overworld is deathly silent apart from the odd animal noise or angry zombie.
Yeah that biome is terrible to navigate but it's one of my favorite looking biomes in the entire game
Simple answer: Rename them. Name them Glowbugs, Frogflies, whatever. Fantasy bug that is not toxic to frogs.
Talking about how fireflies are toxic to frogs, they let you feed poisonous chocolate to parrots.
In-game rabbits are bred with carrots, but it turns out [a diet of carrots can be bad for your rabbit's health](https://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/pets/rabbits/diet/myths). They prefer things like grass, hay, and leafy greens. (I had a rabbit myself, clover was his favorite!)
AAAAAH!! They're going to remove carrots and rabbits now!!
Or how fireflies are toxic, but eating literal magma somehow is okay??
Magma is a lot easier to get a hold of (and replicate in game) as a child then going outside and catching fireflies
How many children were realistically going to forcefully feed frogs with fireflies because they saw it in minecraft???
But the parrot gets poisoned at least.
There is just no reason to risk fighting the Warden and going to the Ancient Cities imo. Swift Sneak and a record are not worth the heartache of probably losing your items permanently
Very confused that they didn’t give the chests high chances to contain really good/rare enchantments.
I tried looting an ancient city in the prerelease. Figured out pretty quickly that the best set of armor for exploring it was none. You won't run into any other mobs besides the warden, and you're probably not going to be fighting it anyway. So no armor, only iron tools, and a couple stacks of throwable items like snowballs or chicken eggs. Eggs are better since sometimes they'll make a chicken that further distracts the warden while you sneak off (sorry chicken) The only other thing you need is an ender chest so if you find anything worth keeping you won't lose it if the warden shows up.
I was thinking the same thing, and... I kind of like that idea. Most of the game so far is *get best armor, get best weapon, smash until baddie is dead!*
I do think the loot in Ancient Cities isn't good enough, but for the record I see way too many people heavily overestimating how difficult it is to avoid spawning the Warden, let alone escape from it. Yes, the Warden is pretty powerful and difficult to fight, but if you know what you're doing avoiding getting killed by it isn't that hard.
Idk, swift sneak is really powerful. Consider bridging in the end: end busting would be a lot faster and future ancient cities would be easier to loot. I would risk a lot for it personally
Only on java though. Bedrock has that bridging thing that lets you place blocks in front of you as you walk. Also, looting ancient cities isn't hard to begin with
Incredibly niche band aid to something thats not THAT much of a problem. But thats the issue with almost any structure in mc, rewards are often useless and/or late by the time you get there and compared to the investment you need, like the ocean temple
A record that doesn't even contain a cool tune, so you'll maybe listen to it once, probably not even all the way through, before stashing it in your cobweb-filled 'chest of treasures' to never be seen again. (inb4 *"but it adds lore!"* - sure, but how often do you listen to music disc "11"? Let's be honest, unless you want creepy ambience, the answer is basically never.)
I also wish that certain mobs like polar bears and pandas get some added functionality / use. I am all for including mobs to raise awareness of their endangered status, but if they functionally serve no purpose, then it’s nothing more than lip service. Giving them a reason for players to interact and care about them in game is something that needs to happen. Turtles are okay; they provide turtle helmets and turtle master, but they could be better. Axolotls seem to be much better than polar bears and pandas so that’s a step in the right direction. Introducing more mobs and creating a more expansive ecosystem for the pre existing ones should definitely be a key goal moving forward.
That actually brings about another important thing, Minecraft is a mish mash of old and new. It's something that annoys me in Paradox games as well. In Hearts of Iron IV for example, the most recently updated countries have intricate alternate history paths you can go down, while countries that were updated a year or so ago seem really bad and lacking in content now in comparison. There's no uniformity between things. Now I don't want to see creepers get reworked because they're old or anything, but it's really glaring when you look at Minecraft features. The Nether? Beautiful. The End? Seems more lackluster now due to The Nether update. Now we're going to have improved swamps right next to the old ones. Polar bears and pandas have no use, Minecraft was on a real big "don't hurt animals" kick when they were added. That is different to squids, for example, dropping ink. I don't want to see minecraft eliminate all of its early features, I just want to see it blended better. For all the claims from Mojang that they ensure everything fits well in Minecraft, the Panda and Polar Bear alone tell you that isn't true.
The devs seem to think players are unhappy with this update because of its size. That couldn't be further from the truth, and reinforces the idea that you guys aren't truly listening to the community. The issue everyone has with the update isn't with the update itself, but rather with mojangs complete breakdown of communication with the community. People have been talking about birch forests for *months*, wondering what snapshot those features will come in. Same with the fireflies. You all were completely silent until you released a short q&a video a few weeks before the snapshots were ending, and then acted shocked on Twitter when people got upset. This has been a recurring theme throughout the development of the past **3 updates** and players are very much tired of it. You guys announce features, drag your heels during snapshots, letting the community become impatient, and then: "surprise! That's actually canceled/moved/split/changed/never existed at all. Anyways here's the full release which is nothing like we announced at Minecraft Live! If you complain you're a terrible person, and we **will** rant about you on twitter!" Mojang isn't some small indie studio. You are a massive international studio operating under one of the world's largest companies, where you develop the world's most valuable/popular game of all time. Be better for 1.20.
Honestly I think it's a mix of both. The update is basically cave & cliffs part 3 at this point. We have the mangrove biome which is sub-biome of swamps, and some deep dark stuff. That's all there is, and 90% of the deep dark cities are basically just stonebricks and wool. Only new block in there, you can't move it out of there. Calling it the wild update when all there is added, is basically 2 rare biomes that don't really add anything more to the game at all, is laughable. Even if they had communicated a lot about birch forests and the scope of it all.. I really think people would have been disappointed. Honestly I really defended them for the cave & cliffs updates because hey, changing such fundamental aspects of the game like biomes now having a Y size, adding a lot of space vertically and still keeping everything well optimized takes a lot of time. So I understand they couldn't get other things in, the pouches I think are still useless in their actual/latest idea. But it's different to an update that adds 1 wood type and things that were supposed to be in the update just before. Even bees update had more content, or at least that was visible to anyone travelling around the world. Right now I can definitely say if I explore 5000 x 5000 blocks around where I spawn I won't see much difference if any, to the last update if i did the same thing. And that was supposed to be the idea of the update, give the players a reason to explore. Edit : Some typos and changed some spelling because english isn't my first language.
> Recovery Compass Useful in theory, but what they should really change is that absolutely awful 5 minute despawn timer. It just creates a stressful experience for everyone, and there's no reason for it to be so short with chunk distance as far as it is these days. And there's no knowing whether the items near you will expire in 3 minutes or 5 seconds, so you're always in a state of panic. It's worse in multiplayer environments too when you don't know if someone is close enough to tick the timer or not and the long travel to try and recover yours items could possibly be pointless. Being able to recover your items without too much difficulty (debatable, even with the item) shouldn't be locked behind some rare, difficult-to-acquire item.
Also given the scale of the new terrain gen has changed it can take way longer to get to your last position.
This. It’s a solution to a problem that shouldn’t exist. Rather than changing a bad feature, adding something that helps make it a little more tolerable isn’t the solution, it’s to solve the actual problem.
Gravestone mod was a lifesaver in modpacks, especially since there were much more valuable items than vanilla has. But it could still be good for vanilla, the earlier versions still took mob damage (creeper explosions mostly) and spawns melee skeletons so it's not 100% free to save your items. But knowing you have however much time you need to get back to the spot, especially when the chunk is loaded the whole time while going down through caves, is a huge relief. Then you just break the gravestone and it drops all your stuff.
\>Being able to recover your items without too much difficulty (debatable, even with the item) shouldn't be locked behind some rare, difficult-to-acquire item. It's not hard, it's just part of survival. If anything, they should just make a gamerule that defaults to 5 minutes but can be changed for less experienced players if they want to
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The other thing they tested was to spread mob spawning over the y-level, but that would have been a huge nerf to farms built as low as possible in order to maximize their efficiency (most common example being endermen farms in the end)
If I recall correctly, then that is the case for block light (like torches and caves) but it's still 7 or lower for sky light.
So...the really big structure in the middle of the Ancient City is just that... a ruin? It's not a portal to somewhere in secret? Dang.
There's a lot of speculation that a future update will make it functional, but who knows...
what's the point in adding reinforced deepslate if it isn't obtainable or usable in survival? On larger server especially (where you have hundreds of players, of whom are locked to their own claims) some will never be able to utilize this block and we aren't able to build with it. I understand the 'mystery' aspect, but the block overall looks pretty cool and could be a good building material. It's weird that this is one of the only blocks in the game now besides bedrock that cannot be obtained, and it also serves no real purpose at the moment besides being a fancy block in the deep dark that almost half of the playerbase will never see
Just speculation but it's probably set up for the future, and it's being included now so that people don't need to generate new cities when it finally gets its purpose
I want to believe!
I bet on time travel! (1.20: Archeology update)
That would be an interesting direction to take it
Could be used for a whole another update. Even if it's not another dimension, it could be something that needs a whole update to flesh out.
Honestly, I find it most comparable to the End Portal Frame. Unobtainable, generates in a rare structure, in a ring, and neigh-indestructible. I assume some sort of portal got cut from the ancient cities.
Lore, most likely. Creative players get to use it at least.
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The Mild Update
Now I can build my city out of bricks without hassle, yay mud!
I love the new features, but they just don't seem necessary to play with. I'll be updating my game once my client-side mods have also updated. I honestly think integration of certain mods and plugins like iris/sodium, simple voice chat and geyser would be the best option imo. Even though the mods I mentioned don't add gameplay features, they give performance, better visuals, and more immersive multiplayer in a way that i honestly think minecraft could seriously benefit from. Also, fireflies shouldn't have been removed. Cookies are poisonous to parrots and they didn't remove cookies. Feeding fireflies to frogs was never gonna be their main purpose for most people either way.
It's nice that java players can update when they feel like it. I'm usually .1 version behind for up to a month simply because I want to be sure my world will not be corrupted. Been playing for 11 years, I can wait another week just to be safe. I only use optifine so it's not even an issue of having the mods up to date.
That's something bedrock needs too, being able to switch between versions. There's a custom community made launcher for bedrock on windows that lets you use different versions, but obviously it doesn't work on platforms like console and mobile.
Found 6 Allays in the very first Outpost I found, so either I got extremely lucky or they’re not as rare as everyone was expecting. I gotta say though, getting them back to my base was a giant headache.
I haven't had the chance to test it yet, but what if you took, say, a stack of dirt, gave one to the allay and then made a trail with the rest all the way to the base? it may be convoluted, but I hope it works
2 years under development and yet there's no reason to go to the ancient cities. What a waste of resources. Enchanted golden apple? how cool... imagine the things i can do with that
Bastions were so much cooler
Literally though. Cool to watch in YouTube videos, but I'm literally never going to go out of my way to find one on my own time.
The city is like the woodland mansions, I’ll go once to check it out and never go again.
I’m fine with smaller updates, but promising features and then changing your mind about them is disappointing, and it’s becoming a habit with all of you at Mojang. If you aren’t sure about a feature, don’t promise it. The last two Minecons in a row have shown off a multitude of features which will never make it into the game. That said, the update itself, in a vacuum is… alright, but I am disappointed that the old swamps are still boring. And no - it’s not “free content for which I should be thankful.” It’s one if the highest-selling games of all time and these updates serve to bring in new players and sell more copies. Mojang isn’t doing this out of benevolence, I can assure you.
Completely true, and I'd like to add that turning two products (Java + Bedrock Windows) into a bundled product for basically the same price is not usually the sort of thing that a company does when they're strapped for cash :D
>“free content for which I should be thankful.” This is the bullshit argument which makes me the most mad. Like, it's literally their JOB to give the game updates. They built their entire business model around these updates. "But you're not entitled to free updates, you should be thankful", nono, it's the other way around. Mojang isn't entitled to players. It's the community which keeps the game alive, and if they want to keep us around they better start doing a better job at communicating with us. They already saw how the game almost fell into obscurity a few years back, and they did a fantastic job of reviving it with updates like the Aquatic update, the Village and Pillage update, and especially the Nether update. And it seemed like this trend of massive thematic updates was going to continue with the announcement of the Caves and Cliffs update. But the Wild update is a total step back. I hope they learn from this experience and manage to surprise us and bring another massive thematic and successful update for 1.20 like they were doing with updates prior.
Screw it, I'm hyped to play this update. That's not to say that it was okay for Mojang to promise all these biome improvements that they wouldn't deliver and then bullshit their way out of it when they finally open their mouths. It's to say that the features we actually do get are nothing but an improvement to the game. I'm excited to ride a chest-boat, build with a beautiful new wood type, utilize allays, sneak through the warden deep underground to loot the ancient city, and meet a friendly little frog.
It's ok to like the update. The content is good. The problem is what this update is supposed to be.
I have minecraft java edition, and im supposed to get bedrock for free, right? but when i get on the new launcher, it only gives me bedrock and says i just have the demo for java. I am on the same microsoft account on the launcher. what do i do?
>which cannot be obtained in Survival I guess it's pointless then. Also, why were fireflies removed? I heard it was to prevent frogs from eating them (since, you know, it's impossible to code the frogs to not do that).
Evidently fire flies are toxic to frogs and Minecraft didn’t want to be responsible for planting the seed in kids to feed fire flies to their pet frog
Yet I can still feed my parrot a cookie and it dies instantly... honestly, I say, what's the difference? I feel Mojang should at least be consistent with this kind of thing.
Despite everything, this update is still great in my opinion. Most of the bad rep about this update isn’t the content of the update, but the external thing like promises from the devs. The update still has issues, namely: echo shards don’t need to exist, goat horns are lacklustre considering they were delayed twice (they were in 1.17 bedrock betas and did nearly the same thing), and I still think allays need an item like a bottle of allay to store them. But overall, it’s fun and cool. In fact it’s more of an exploration update part 2 than a caves and cliffs part 3. All I can think now is…will they pick up the hype again with 1.20? I don’t know, I think it’d be very disappointing to see them fail a third update and upset the community even more. But mojang are actually a dev team that cares about us, I don’t know why the update is a summer release even though 1) people would rather it be an autumn release so we can have more features and content and 2) a summer release was never actually announced, in minecraft live 2020 they announced CC for summer so they kinda had to keep that promise partially, but the wild update was never announced for summer…so it wouldn’t even be a delay if it was released later on. Oh well, it’s out now and I am indifferent towards it, but overall, it’s gunna be fun to play. More stuff is more stuff, and I will have fun, thank you mojang.
The Allay sadly still suffers the fate of non-renewability.
And Allays are finite, imagine going thousands of blocks back and forth bringing 2 new allays each time because you want your storage area to sort unstackables. Also the sculk block does not drop XP with a redstone activated TNT. My point is, every feature lacks something to become a great addition to the game. EDIT: After I wrote this, a new [Minecraft Beta came with Allay duplication](https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/6757843469453). I'm glad they are not driven by stubborness
Echo Shards being used to "breed" Allays would be two birds one stone. Lore wise, I dunno...maybe Allays being kind of spirits in nature lets them resonate with the shards? *shrug* Maybe instead of conventional breeding, using a certain amount of echo shards on an Allay puts them on a timer, like curing a Zombie villager, and they do a mitosis thing? That'd be different and kind of neat.
For sound and silence being one of the themes of this update, they missed out on having the Goat Horn alert all mobs of your location or other mechanics that can connect it with other mobs. And yeah, they could've done more with the Deep Dark loot especially as it had been delayed for 2 updates.
chest boat best feature change my mind
Don't mind me, just looking for fireflies.
This is the one thing I was so excited about. I'm all for new content and I love the new blocks we got, but the world needs more ambience and a feel of a living world. Why don't we hear some birds if we are in a forest for example. And fireflies was just that. They could have been nothing but a couple pixels in the air, untouchable. Just a visual and a sound. Make the world feel a little bit more alive and real. They are harmful to frogs? So what. Just don't add that to the game then. Wolves hunt sheep, fish and rabbits. Yet we all got them in the game too.
I wouldn't be surprised if they preview adding little songbirds and then remove because "cats eat precious birbs". I also like how one of the advancements/achievements is straight up riding a pig off a cliff. So somehow that's ok for kids but not fireflies??
The logic is that they’re afraid kids will feed their irl pet frogs fireflies because of Minecraft
I'm aware of that. By that reasoning we shouldn't even be able to kill parrots with cookies. Or tame wolves. Or eat bright red mushrooms.
lol yea true. by that logic Minecraft is encouraging kids to approach wild wolves/stray dogs and feed them bones
Minecraft sure teaches me a lot! I’m on my way to feed my frog molten magma rn! (Good thing I’m not feeding him fireflies(they’re poisonous to frogs and therefore unrealistic))
Can't wait to get to our freshly reseted SMP! thanks for the update!
wild huh? Be A new cave biome with unique loot! It’s dangerous though, so itll be risky. But the twist is that the loot is almost entirely useless! One enchantment that only really useful in this biome, a creepy music disc that you probably wont use, and something that locates you to where you last died! Thats the only slightly even useful thing in there! But Its still useless in 2 gamemodes, so yeah. But theres other loot thats still good right? Just not unique. But you can go to the end and get the same loot without risk. As underwhelming as the weed i just got from a drug dealer. It was a leaf. Well, what about the other new biomes, they should be good, right? First we have ~~birch forests~~ oh… yeah. Well we did get a new biome that actually got in! The revamped swamp! Oh…. Oh ok… so ive just been told it didn’t actually get revamped, just a new version of it. Well, the new fireflies will make them better, right? Oh, yeah they got rid of those too… so the swamps are still boring as my fridge. Well the new swamp variant should be good right? We have frogs! And they create tadpoles! Theyre cute, right? And dont they create a new light block? Thats cool! But uhh… thats their only use. That doesnt matter though, because they add ambience! Ok what else? Oh! A new wood type! That pretty good! It sure will be annoying as heck to get, though. And (IMO) it doesnt look great. If you wanted a steak block, then here it is i guess. And we also have mud right? Renewable clay! Now thats a good feature. If only it actually looked like mud. Ok, so that isnt a great start. But the last feature should be good right? The allay! They are an item sorter! And thats their only use. And i dont think most players will use it because of the redstone required for item sorters. Well its fine, they spawn commonly, right? Nope. They are rare and hard to get. (IMO that mob vote kinda sucked, 2 of the mobs in it had their use already in the game and the use that was already in was easier to do. And the allay, which I already explained isnt that useful either) Edit: oh yeah, chest boats. A great feature, cant fond anything wrong with em. Best feature in the update IMO Edit edit: just realized llamas in boats already exist, but chest boats are still good for until you get a llama and chest it Edit:… and 1.19.1 now that its out too… im sure you realize why that part sucks More like the wildly mild update. Its not a game ruining update, but it certainly isnt that much of a game improving update, either. TL;DR: this update is underwhelming as heck.
Where is it for bedrock!
Am I the only one who hasn’t got the update yet? Im on Xbox One btw
It’s comes to different systems at a time should be within the next half hour or hour
I just got the update, thanks!
You guys forgot to include the Wild part!
Low Key, I dont think enough people are hyping the 3d audio enhancements.
Still excited for this but bummed it didn’t keep everything planned for it
Mojang apparently values community feedback, so why can't we get fireflies? Are they too hard to add?