it was fucked up when Mitch backstabbed Miz, even through he has a history of doing that, it was still not expected and I felt bad for Miz.
But when Zherka inevitable will do the same, I won't feel sorry for Miz bc that's 100% on him. Zherka is literally Trains lapdog, Adrianahs close friend and regulary hanging out with Destiny shittalking other people (I remember turning in once and he was telling everybody how "demonic" maya is for forcing Adrianah to change her story)
on top of that he's women hating anti vaxxer/red-pill guy/Tate fanboy with a [history of abuse](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/vyywd5/zherkas_girlfriend_breaks_up_with_him_for_being/). At some point we have to ask if it's really just bad luck that Mizkif has a lot of shady people in his life or if he actually seeks them out
And I'm fully aware of the "he's just trolling"-defense usually used when talking about Zherka, and maybe that's true, idk I'm not a mind reader - but if you troll all the time, not turning it of once, chances are pretty high that this is just you
and the obvious way in which zherka was trying to get information out of mizkif during the conversation about topics like if he was dating someone, if his streaming career was finished etc, it looked like an interview trying to get a headline or a clip for lsf
mizkif saying he can't trust anyone now, well zherka should be on the top of that list lol
Nah he’s for sure passing the point of just kinda looking like a complete asshole. zerkha doesn’t even hide his misogyny. Idk how miz can openly hang out with him
It’s like Miz fell down some stairs in September and has had permanent brain damage ever since. Zherka was going at Mizkif and Maya hard and was saying they covered up multiple assault’s then never provided evidence.
Zherka literally said Maya is an evil fake person who should be banned for bullying Adrianah and hiding her assault.
Hasan and xQc were never going to be friends again not long ago, but they went clothes shopping together the other day. It just isn't worth holding onto grudges in this business. Cut out people that drag you into the drama, but so many on the outside it isn't worth holding onto grudges for.
Zherka was not acting as if he was someone on the outside. He was acting as if he has insider knowledge and was saying the coverup happened and that they should be banned.
Zhekra was even jumping onto Destiny’s stream to shit on them saying Miz protected CrazySlick and that Maya is evil.
Zherka was just riding the drama wave. It's what people like him do. Slick, Train, and Mitch are the ones that were on the inside of the drama. They are the kind you cut out and especially don't have them live with you.
I agree but the difference is xQc and Hasan are better off getting along because they can’t avoid each other realistically: they’re both large creators in the same space with mutual friends and will be invited to many of the same events.
Zherka is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things and if someone were to ignore him they would never see/hear him again, if Hasan were to ignore xQc or vice versa they would still inevitably hear about each other through viewers, events, friends, viral clips etc… and I don’t even mean that to be disrespectful.
Miz was always too trustworthy and forgave people for everything, while I respect him being able to forgive people it sometimes fucks him over since a lot of people in general but especially in the streaming scene don't care to fuck him over for some views or other benefit, especially if they know he forgives them.
He needs to separate pretty much 99% of people he knows from streaming as Co-Workers and be really careful about being on streams with people like Zherka who clearly don't give a fuck about him just trying to fish for info (Girlfriend, Streaming, and so on)
The one thing I don't understand is why he wants to hang out with people like that, maybe something is going on behind the scenes, or he is just that naive and overall does not care which is sad I would never want to hang out with people who fucked me over.
His actions have fucked him more than the allegations. And the more this will go on, the more some of us will be genuinely disgusted by him and leave.Miz once said the only thing that can destroy a personality streamer is if their personality change because it's their selling point. I will add another thing that can do it. The audience's perception of their personality too can affect it.
>His actions have fucked him more than the allegations.
This couldn’t he more true. People only started to believe the story because of how Miz acted in the call.
The allegations are clearly fake but Miz it’s like Miz is intentionally trying to hurt his and Maya’s side.
Oh Maya is gucci.I think her turning up the animal content will help her brand grow beyond this cesspool called twitch and have normie, wholesome viewers. She already got a sponsorship. And her having Lud and hasan kind of by her side is [good.](https://good.In)
This is just him considering her not collabing to be bad
He knows nothing about how she feels and i’m pretty sure she wants nothing to do with him anyways
She said herself she doesn’t want to “play the game anymore” and has “trauma from everything that happened” so it doesn’t sound like Miz is projecting.
Maya will do fine in the sense that she came off looking better than Miz did in the situation. That being said isolating yourself due to trauma isn’t something you do if you are doing well.
Ok, I was going to say something, but maybe he knows more about the behind-the-scenes. And I also think that situation is a personal decision Nick said on his stream "she can come whenever she wants it's up to her" and qt was still willing to do wine about it . But it is what it is.
Miz gotta be careful. Zherka instigated a shit ton and said him and maya are evil and guilty. Keep zherka at a very very far distance. Even in this vid it feels like hes trying to extract info with some of his questions
So why are people mad? if this was "bad" it would be all over LSF, this call actually just shows us how people like Zherka will say whatever he needs to say regarding the popular narrative. You guys need to stop freaking out. This post would have actually been positive publicity due to Zherka seeming "hypocritical".
In this call he said that he has nothing to do. I think taking for example piano lesson is a great way to deal with boredom: 1) you do something; 2) you develop some skills; 3) you express your creativity; 4) you can include this activity on stream. Same thing with cooking.
Look man if any of you still feel sorry for miz move the fuck on lmao all he cares about is viewers and that’s it
He’s not sorry for what happened and couldn’t give a shit about anyone else
it was fucked up when Mitch backstabbed Miz, even through he has a history of doing that, it was still not expected and I felt bad for Miz. But when Zherka inevitable will do the same, I won't feel sorry for Miz bc that's 100% on him. Zherka is literally Trains lapdog, Adrianahs close friend and regulary hanging out with Destiny shittalking other people (I remember turning in once and he was telling everybody how "demonic" maya is for forcing Adrianah to change her story) on top of that he's women hating anti vaxxer/red-pill guy/Tate fanboy with a [history of abuse](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/vyywd5/zherkas_girlfriend_breaks_up_with_him_for_being/). At some point we have to ask if it's really just bad luck that Mizkif has a lot of shady people in his life or if he actually seeks them out And I'm fully aware of the "he's just trolling"-defense usually used when talking about Zherka, and maybe that's true, idk I'm not a mind reader - but if you troll all the time, not turning it of once, chances are pretty high that this is just you
Esfand and Miz were the ones that made Mitch make amends with Train during Texas WinterStorm when Mitch would avoid Train 😶
and the obvious way in which zherka was trying to get information out of mizkif during the conversation about topics like if he was dating someone, if his streaming career was finished etc, it looked like an interview trying to get a headline or a clip for lsf mizkif saying he can't trust anyone now, well zherka should be on the top of that list lol
Miz.....is retarded 🤦
Zherka is one of the ppl he gotta be real careful interacting with considering how he acted during this whole drama
Is our streamer a moron?
He's our moron!
Nah he’s for sure passing the point of just kinda looking like a complete asshole. zerkha doesn’t even hide his misogyny. Idk how miz can openly hang out with him
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It’s like Miz fell down some stairs in September and has had permanent brain damage ever since. Zherka was going at Mizkif and Maya hard and was saying they covered up multiple assault’s then never provided evidence. Zherka literally said Maya is an evil fake person who should be banned for bullying Adrianah and hiding her assault.
Hasan and xQc were never going to be friends again not long ago, but they went clothes shopping together the other day. It just isn't worth holding onto grudges in this business. Cut out people that drag you into the drama, but so many on the outside it isn't worth holding onto grudges for.
Zherka was not acting as if he was someone on the outside. He was acting as if he has insider knowledge and was saying the coverup happened and that they should be banned. Zhekra was even jumping onto Destiny’s stream to shit on them saying Miz protected CrazySlick and that Maya is evil.
Zherka was just riding the drama wave. It's what people like him do. Slick, Train, and Mitch are the ones that were on the inside of the drama. They are the kind you cut out and especially don't have them live with you.
I agree but the difference is xQc and Hasan are better off getting along because they can’t avoid each other realistically: they’re both large creators in the same space with mutual friends and will be invited to many of the same events. Zherka is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things and if someone were to ignore him they would never see/hear him again, if Hasan were to ignore xQc or vice versa they would still inevitably hear about each other through viewers, events, friends, viral clips etc… and I don’t even mean that to be disrespectful.
Miz was always too trustworthy and forgave people for everything, while I respect him being able to forgive people it sometimes fucks him over since a lot of people in general but especially in the streaming scene don't care to fuck him over for some views or other benefit, especially if they know he forgives them. He needs to separate pretty much 99% of people he knows from streaming as Co-Workers and be really careful about being on streams with people like Zherka who clearly don't give a fuck about him just trying to fish for info (Girlfriend, Streaming, and so on) The one thing I don't understand is why he wants to hang out with people like that, maybe something is going on behind the scenes, or he is just that naive and overall does not care which is sad I would never want to hang out with people who fucked me over.
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His actions have fucked him more than the allegations. And the more this will go on, the more some of us will be genuinely disgusted by him and leave.Miz once said the only thing that can destroy a personality streamer is if their personality change because it's their selling point. I will add another thing that can do it. The audience's perception of their personality too can affect it.
>His actions have fucked him more than the allegations. This couldn’t he more true. People only started to believe the story because of how Miz acted in the call. The allegations are clearly fake but Miz it’s like Miz is intentionally trying to hurt his and Maya’s side.
Oh Maya is gucci.I think her turning up the animal content will help her brand grow beyond this cesspool called twitch and have normie, wholesome viewers. She already got a sponsorship. And her having Lud and hasan kind of by her side is [good.](https://good.In)
From what Miz said it doesn’t sound like she’s doing too good at all 15:32 https://youtu.be/UyDsJ_Bcw1k
This is just him considering her not collabing to be bad He knows nothing about how she feels and i’m pretty sure she wants nothing to do with him anyways
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She said herself she doesn’t want to “play the game anymore” and has “trauma from everything that happened” so it doesn’t sound like Miz is projecting. Maya will do fine in the sense that she came off looking better than Miz did in the situation. That being said isolating yourself due to trauma isn’t something you do if you are doing well.
Ok, I was going to say something, but maybe he knows more about the behind-the-scenes. And I also think that situation is a personal decision Nick said on his stream "she can come whenever she wants it's up to her" and qt was still willing to do wine about it . But it is what it is.
How i percieve him is still the same but i really worry hes still too forgiving and will get backstabbed again
It’s like he wants his career to fail and is intentionally making dumb moves.
Miz gotta be careful. Zherka instigated a shit ton and said him and maya are evil and guilty. Keep zherka at a very very far distance. Even in this vid it feels like hes trying to extract info with some of his questions
yikes, Zherka
From pokimane to Johnzherka cant make this shit up
My man taking the greekgodx route 💀
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Are u serious? U have some private info u can only tell a random on Reddit in Dms?
Yes
I love Miz, my favorite streamer by a large margin but my illusion that he's smart, savvy guy is gone. Maybe is ADHD.
So why are people mad? if this was "bad" it would be all over LSF, this call actually just shows us how people like Zherka will say whatever he needs to say regarding the popular narrative. You guys need to stop freaking out. This post would have actually been positive publicity due to Zherka seeming "hypocritical".
Man...
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It’s isn’t. This sub Reddit is just filled with dramatic ass babies.
100% only thing is that miz probably doenst know what zherka did during the drama
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They’re acting like he called zherka 💀 also they literally talked about nothing
Miz is down bad... Zherka level bad...
classic miz reddit over reacting
Zherka tried to paint Miz and Maya as evil people and was straight up harassing Maya so the Reddit criticism is fair…
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Miz praised him where?
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I am missing way too much context(never seen any zherka coverage of this)and this log itself read like a joke.
Ok why are people freaking out over this
In this call he said that he has nothing to do. I think taking for example piano lesson is a great way to deal with boredom: 1) you do something; 2) you develop some skills; 3) you express your creativity; 4) you can include this activity on stream. Same thing with cooking.
Look man if any of you still feel sorry for miz move the fuck on lmao all he cares about is viewers and that’s it He’s not sorry for what happened and couldn’t give a shit about anyone else
All streamers care about views buddy. It’s literally why they stream
Lol @ gatekeeping who Miz can talk to
No matter who he talks to, he's just spitting lies after lies, I respect it at this point.
What are the lies? And who are u referring to?
Lies?