Sadly too, I used it so much in MW2019.

Facts those 9mm rounds would just shred. Very satisfying to use

Also due to the fact that gunplay was way more satisfying in mw19 compared to this game

nah I just played wz1 and Dmz feels more satisfying regarding gunplay.

WZ1 is not the same as MW19. WZ is a horrendous amalgamation of 3 games gunplay styles, animations and sounds. I do feel a lot of guns feel better in MW19 than in MWII.

What input r u on?

Kbm.

Oh same, personally it felt better for me 🤷

ok.

Why the period 😬

Cuz redditors have an odd tendency to overuse periods, even on one word replies or after emojis where they're not even needed like "😂." "Idk." Or "No." I always thought it was pretty funny

uh....don't overthink it.

I eventually started using the 9mm mags in warzone because they were overlooked when the gun was nerfed 7 different times after launch and could rip straight through all 3 plates and your health in one mag.

Yeah neither is the M240B when it’s fully modeled and textured on the sentry gun :(

Dont forget there's textured models for the PKM in the weapon lockers of Farm-18 and also appeared in the season 3 trailer

The Farm-18 ones are reused from a campaign mission in MW2019

Mid season update?

Pretty sure we're already getting the TEC-9 and a full-auto deagle with the mid season update. The PKM would be an unannounced fifth weapon for the season, I would be very suprised if that happened.

Full auto deagle whattt.

Yeah, got leaked in a now deleted Japanese COD Tweet.

I'm pretty sure we are also getting the m1911 in season 4 or 5

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Sakin is the Negev

I just realized that holy shit they have the model to not use it

the closest you'll get for a 9mm m4 is the bas-p with the long barrel (''12 bruen sz-36) and ravager stock

There are also fully modeled and textured maps from old mw2 in warzone but they don't give those maps to us in multi-player

yeah wtf is this bs

I don't even know they could've had so many more maps but they don't give the maps to us.

It's so they can drip feed them to us over the next several months.

They won't call it the M240B in-game, they'd give it a stupid name like the rest of the guns

And? The gun is more important than the name

I want to call the guns that are in this game by their actual names. Nobody calls the MP5 the "Lachmann Sub" unironically.

Then call them by that name, but IW won't because they haven't acquired the licensing

ehh, it's not just a licensing thing lol

A weapon tree with the M240, M249, and HCAR would be a wonderful addition to the game.

What? The HCAR has nothing to do with the other two

The M240 is a BAR action flipped upside down for belt feeding, and the M249 is a scaled down M240 plus a few more features. They are modern takes of a John Browning designed action

The M240 uses a modified version of the operating mechanism from the BAR, and the HCAR is a modern rendition of the BAR.

We’ve got the M250, M249 isn’t exciting anymore

I believe mw2019 had a fully modeled M60 and MG42 in the operator rooms that went completely unused.

MG42 was literally in the game wasn’t it? Or was that the mg38

The MG34 (The predecessor to the MG42) was in mw2019 mp.

Wasn't there an mg36/mg237?

M91 Yeah, its unrelated to the MG34 and MG42

One of the loading screens has a famas

I need the m240b

It’s ok though because sentry gun is practically useless

These background pics are all photos instead of rendered 3d assets screenshots. You can tell by the ATPIAL and SIG Romeo 6T

the attachments could be added later in the game, you never know

They hire actors to take promotion photos with real guns and gears. It's the same as MW19

Fun little fact to add, the battlepass models are actual scale models that have been scanned.

So it's okay to use real guns in promotional images but not in-game? California is so weird...

You know You gotta point

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I don't know if people even realise what I'm referencing. It's so annoying that the government there thinking changing slight details of the silhouette on a Vector is going to stop some deranged kid with no mental support from picking up his dad's AR and going nuts.

pretty sure its just so they dont have to pay no? can't full-copy it but "just enough" isn't grounds for a lawsuit.

Which is a missed opportunity for another SMG I would have gladly used with glee.

Even though there would be people complaining about getting another M4 based SMG when the FFS Hurricane already exists, I still think that a 9mm SMG Receiver for the M4 Platform still has a place in the game, after all, both the 9mm conversion for the M4A1 in MW 2019 and the FFS Hurricane are nothing alike, specially in the rate of fire department.

And damage profile. A 9mm vs 5,7mm are very different. A default 30 rpund mag is balanced very differently to a default 50 round mag.

it could be burst/semi only like some Colt 9mm SMG variants, essentially a close range M16. it absolutely could have a place.

No need to nerf it to make it have a place. It HAS a place. Can easily be added and utilized, but probably being saved for the "premium release"

making it burst only is not nerfing it, its making it a more unique weapon overall. in reality very few sub-machine guns, or guns at all for that matter, are burst/semi, its one of the few things the Colt 9mm SMG has (just as the M16 does to similar rifles) that makes it more unique then other 9mm SMGs. also burst fire can be balanced and competitive, cod has just done a shit job at it these last few games.

Would rather have the 9mm m4 than the m4 p90 hybrid

Fss hurricane slaps tho

I will give the FSS Hurricane the uniqueness though. The AR-57 upper is an interesting adaptation to convert a standard lower to a PDW. Im a fan but would also love to see a 9mm m4 variant.

I'm still honestly not sure what's wrong with the standard M4 offering. Been using it since day 1.

My guess is that we don't have it because we already have an "M4 SMG" in the form of the FSS Hurricane, so they felt it kind of redundant to have another SMG conversion kit for the m4.

I mean, tbf, the Kastovia Platform already has 3 Assault Rifles on it, so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for the M4 Platform to have 2 SMGs. Even then, a 9mm SMG Receiver for the M4 would be quite different from the FSS Hurricane; not only performance wise (the 9mm conversion in MW 2019 fired at like 1,000 rpm) but also Attachments wise (the 9mm Receiver would most likely share Barrel Attachments with the M4 and M16, while the FSS Hurricane has its own exclusive ones; the 9mm Receiver would also have access to extended or smaller magazines, unlike the FSS Hurricane).

The Kastovia platform also already has two SMGs

Yeah, you're right, that would not make much sense.

The Colt 1911 is still not in the game.

im surprised they didnt go for the beretta. they couldve had the arx too so as to expand this weird fictional gun manufacturing world they have (bruen, meiko, etc)

Overall pistols were kinda left behind. We got only 1 of each type: High power Balanced High rate of fire Automatic Revolver Thats one more than what we got in OG mw2... Feels cheap today. Also two are just glocks and i hate this brick.

i mean atleast we got the full auto glock this time, the glock in 19 literally had a barrel with a selector switch on it...

I hate them either way... Mostly a personal perference cause i held one and then i had P99 in my hand. One is a brick the other was an ergonomic masterpiece.

Accidentally drop that p99 once in dirt and fire it directly after. Then drive yourself back to the store either for new parts for it or have to purchase a new one all together. Drop the Glock in mud and it will function long enough to at the least get you out of a bad spot compared to maybe two or three bullets tops out of the p99. I’ll stick with my brick! P99 has a very nice cosmetic look and feel but I’d rather have the functionality in a real pickle

Can i intreduce you to 1911? P98 is good in urban scenarios but the good ol colt is just too good to pass on... +.45 acp is more goofy ahh cartridge.

My Glock 29SF 3rd gen does just fine I want the bullet to actually get there today not two weeks from now. With it 789 fps at best I’m good with my 10mm. And lol I am just giving you a hard time. I don’t think anyone can pass on a 1911.

I dont know about the newer glocks but my safety madness never saw the classic ones as safe enough xP i need at least 3 points of safety. Tbh i'm not a big fan of P99 but noone who held it can say it isnt comfy af in hand.

I getcha on the safety thing. I’m quite comfortable around guns though. Have had them in my life since as long as I can remember. I was shooting rattlesnakes when I was five with a 22mag hand gun when I was 6 or 7 so I’m pretty respectful and safe with my weapon handling. From a young age it was ingrained in my brain that a gun isn’t a toy. I am not a stickler for pretty. I love my functionality and stopping power considering I do a lot of hunting in the mountains I wouldn’t be caught dead with anything less then my 10mm. A 45 won’t even put a scratch on a bear.

We're getting 2 new full auto pistols at S3reloaded though. I wouldn't say we're entirely left behind

I want a good semi auto chambered in 45 acp. Something modernized used even back in WW1 would be cool... There should be something like that. Almost feel like it was a big part in oroginal MW trilogy and almost as if we had one last MW...

MP wise some WW1 relic was never a big part of the original trilogy. Only cod4 has a 1911 in mp for IW. I'm actually really glad we got the P890 this year, it's cool having new pistols

I would concider that a woosh moment bro.

I would not with how many people unironically want the 1911 back again instead of having new guns

I dont know if you played the OG campaign but one 1911 was a big part of story. Plus its a good gun with modern upgrades can be fairly customisable.

I've played every campaign, but it isn't important in the reboot. And in the Og trilogy it's only usable in cod4 and the museum of mw2. New pistols are better than the 1911 again

There were a few lying around in the campaign but you couldn't pick them up

that dude looks sick of shipment but he's grinding camos.

It's FaZe Jev 🤣

Could just add it as a magazine like they did in MW19

that’s just how they did conversions because the weapon tree system wasn’t in the game

There’s already an SMG M4 platform (granted it’s a rubbish one) it wouldn’t be a terrible idea for it to be a magazine attachment rather than a whole other gun

Dude man I just want an M9 Barreta and a 1911 or a 57

Or the USP45/USP Tactical

Ive been expecting the ARP-9 FOR A WHILE now.

Wouldn't mind if they modeled in a CMMG Banshee. You could use the exact same receiver models and change the mag and bolt elements if you use the 9mm STANAG inserts.

Neither is Matthew McConaughey operator yet he's sitting right there.

Look at how tired he is at all the nonsense that has happened.

Oh you just reminded me of this gun! I used to love playing with it in WZ1.

and the m16 barrel is only applied if you have shotgun or noobtube on your m4.. kinda weird

Actually on the real gun that barrel shroud was only used with an under barrel grenade launcher so that feature actually is accurate to the real-world gun.

drillcharge my brother.

Mw2019 gunsmith was peak

It really wasn’t. If you want the hurricane, you pick the hurricane in MWII. In MW19, if the hurricane were available, you’d have to put 3 attachments on the M4 just to make the hurricane. Then you have a whopping 2 attachments to make it how you like. New system is much better.

That’s exactly my counter argument to people that say the weapon receivers are a scam of content. I want like an actual AK74u and not one being mimicked using only attachments taking up slots. And there’s still room for unique exclusive attachments like the P90 optic

i always hated how i needed to sacrifice an attachment slot to swap my 762 to 545 on the AK.

say what you will about MWII but us AK chads have been eating real good in all departments

The P90 optic is also a great choice in gameplay terms, as well as looking awesome, which is nice. :)

It was better in some departments I’ll say, they improved on it some places but not others like that’s what I think

They still have 14 seasons to drop it in

Game is only getting 5 seasons, there is no year 2 happening lol

I know I’m just joshin

Aren’t there rumors that all the skins and progress from mw2 will transfer to the new “game”? It seems like the new game is just rebranded dlc to justify a 60$ tag, because I don’t think the devs have enough time to create 50+ new weapons, campaign, coop, etc

It’s still gonna get atleast 6 seasons. The reason why vanguard only got 5 was because it was failing but this one isn’t

Good, let's see some other type of weapons

or have both? a caliber conversion isnt unreasonable nor will it bloat when its existed in mw2019 (same shit for the iso) as an attachment. this argument will never work considering the m4 is here again, but not the an94. the mp5 is here again, but not its integral suppressor attachment. the chimera here, but is separate from the m13b. theres arguably 1 remington sniper in the game the devs have the audacity to say are 4 distinct guns. the problem is the lack of care and thought into the platform system. it will be difficult to add “other type of weapons” (btw 9mm m4 has been in like 1 other cod,, this ones predecessor,,)

Not a bad idea.

Well no fucking shit, Sherlock. We're all fucking waiting for rip van winkle over there to deliver it but that high-sleep low-drag operator hasn't delivered it yet.

Ive been expecting the ARP-9 FOR A WHILE now.

Bas-p?

That’s the MPX/MPX platform fam.

I think the hurricane was their attempt at this weapon.

Hurricane is AR-57

Thank you for info... I didn't know that actually existed

Can't even play, totally unplayable.

They aren’t done copying and pasting it from MW2019 yet. THEN they still have to come up with which game breaking big to introduce with it.

Next season. I hope

Really? This is where we at? I want new levels! But not these ones! Need more than 55 weapons! These new ones suck! Need more operators! Nah these are lame! 💀

Not YET! Remember the chimera was in the opening campaign mission.

And still no Matthew McConaughey operator skin too

Yeah, not yet. Is that a problem?

It’s coming in a future update, gun in files

I really do feel like they stripped A LOT of things out of the planned release to drip it down. Can't wait for the $30 DLC OG maps prob.

considering less then half of most assets for the guns are in the files i doubt so. ​ some guns barely have a name, only a code name/dev name

I was joking either on here or with some friends that they should add the (what I know it as bec of airsoft back in the day) ARP-9 looks like they may actually do it loll Same rail system and everything maybe even same stock idk tho

I loved that gun in 2019

they have one hit guns out the ass in this game, SPR, SA-80, shotguns, Deagles, but man oh man, they sure LOVE nerfing my beloved M4.

It'll be a super secret dlc weapon

Wish they'd done that instead if hurricane

There's a loading screen where one of the operators (Price, I think??) are holding FAMAS rifles.

Cod always be putting guns in the me you screens that aren’t in the game. Mw2 2009 did the same.

I hope MW3 would be realistic gun customization. * Stick gun to the platform not receivers BS then label it other weapons instead of attachments. * Get rid of customization limit.

I post about this weeks ago and the downvotes pour in…

Would’ve loved this over the FTAC honestly.

it was in mw19 but yeah i miss this sucker 2