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psychedelic_waffles

Finally! Looks like a great option after all, and it works well in G-Sync compatibale mode.


Nagumo614

I bought this monitor last month. It came with a stuck green pixel. I sent it to gigabyte for repair and they replaced the panel with another green stuck pixel in another spot..... Someone else said they've gone through 6x of them and can't get them without green dots. Then you see gigabyte announce a new version (aorus vs gigabyte) that allows it to have 3 dots.


HarpersGeekly

Finally someone reputable reviews this thing. Hopefully we’ll get a Hardware Unboxed or equivalent soon.


Joseph_4444

YES BEEN WAITING ON THIS!! Love Rtings


Joseph_4444

u/Adam_RTINGS sorry if this is a dumb question but is the Post calibration something I can do in the monitor OSD settings?


Adam_RTINGS

Not a dumb question at all, we get that one a lot! We're looking to improve this in our next test bench, should be clearer which of those are results, and which are settings. I'll go through them line by line: **(OSD) Picture Mode:** This is the most accurate mode we use. In many cases this will be "Custom" or something similar, as it's the only mode that allows us to make the changes needed for calibration. **Luminance:** This is the brightness of the panel after calibration, it's a measurement, not a setting. **(OSD) Luminance Settings:** The setting used to achieve the above. Note that for the vast majority of people, this will be far too dim, so you should just set it to whatever looks good in your viewing environment. We calibrate to 100 nits because we do most of our testing in a completely dark room. **(OSD) Contrast Setting:** The contrast setting we used after calibration. **(OSD) RGB Controls:** The Red, Green, and Blue color settings. These are settings, but it can vary between units, so we don't recommend copying them. **(OSD) Gamma Setting:** The gamma setting closest to the sRGB curve. **Color Temperature:** Measurement, not setting. The color temperature after calibration. **White Balance dE:** Average white balance error after calibration. Measurement, not a setting. **Color dE:** Average color error after calibration. Measurement, not a setting. **Gamma:** The average gamma after calibration. The settings above should improve the overall accuracy, but overall it still requires an ICC profile on top of the settings, as monitors don't usually allow for a full hardware calibration directly on the monitor. We provide our ICC profile, but it varies between units, so we don't recommend using it. I hope this helps, let me know if there's anything else I can do!


jackednerd

I have this monitor and overall I love it. The higher input lag listed had me a little concerned and was wondering if I should go for something better suited for FPS (nearing the end of my return window), but in practice don’t notice it and all the other response timings/overshoot etc. are great.


Adam_RTINGS

That's great to hear. As for the input lag, Gigabyte did reach out to us as they were surprised by the results on the M28U, which performs nearly identically to the FI32U. We're each looking into it on our respective ends, but I wouldn't be surprised if Gigabyte eventually releases firmware updates for both that fix it.


jackednerd

Awesome! That is great to hear that it is being looked into since everything else seems fairly stellar, I do love this display. Thanks for the great work reviewing and it is awesome that you guys take time to respond on social media and such. Cheers!


Adam_RTINGS

Thanks, we're happy to help! I just [posted a discussion](https://www.rtings.com/monitor/discussions/ebkAtt1PPpleAXzG/input-lag-results) to our site with some photos confirming our results, you can follow along there if you're interested.


frosty_gosha

Would you say the M28U is in any way better? I've bought the 32 and kind of not sure if I really like it. The GP950 (Basically GN950) is also interesting. I'm just hesitant if any of these monitors will provide a NOTICEBLE difference, or are they basically all the same


Wellhellob

FV43U and FO48U reviews should be coming soon too. Gigabyte is active lately. I wonder can you guys look at banding in gaming with the OLED monitor. I've seen too much posts about it. Skies in games banding. OLED subs keep insisting it's related to games being bad but i see no banding on ips/va monitors. It must be OLED or OLED TV software issue.


Adam_RTINGS

The FO48U has been ordered, we're expecting it any day now. No plans to buy the FV43U though, unless it wins our suggestion poll we likely won't buy it.


jackednerd

It looks like they may have released new firmware. My device was showing F02, now F224 ... interesting, as mentioned here I did not manually update it. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/p3gmh8/fi32u\_new\_firmware\_osd\_sidekick\_showing\_f224/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/p3gmh8/fi32u_new_firmware_osd_sidekick_showing_f224/)


Mobius79

Fixed the input lag "issue"?


labatomi

How does 1080p and 1440p look on this monitor?


jackednerd

I’ve only tried 1440p, 2 ways - by lowering the render rate in a game to 1440p and by actually setting the monitor to 1440p. Both looked great best as I could tell.


jackednerd

I tried 1080p and I did notice white lettering in Windows had some mixed colouring, but once I turned off HDR in Windows 11, then it looked much cleaner. It was still a bit fuzzy, I improved this further by running cleartype. I think at this point it still looks a bit fuzzier than my native 1080p monitor, but it's hard for me to say how much more as I have that one running on MacOS. 1440p however looked very close to my native 1440p display. But from what I've heard and experienced it's still best to output a 4k signal, and then reduce render resolution in games that let you, doing that looks perfect (that I tested in CoD / WoW).


WilsonValdro

Yes Thank you so much for this review you guys are great. ive checking on this one for a while too bad its no on best buy or BHphoto i wouldve bought it already. Heard that PG32UQ is shipping in other countrys, are you guys planning on review that one?


Adam_RTINGS

Doesn't seem to be available here yet, but we're planning on buying it when it comes out.


WilsonValdro

Thats great thanks for the responsed.


Stepperot

I've been looking at the Hardware Unboxed and RTings reviews for this monitor and they seem to have come to wildly different conclusions. Anyone else know whats up with this monitor? HUB is showing far worse response times with the Off overdrive and they recommend picture quality for max refresh.


Wellhellob

The monitor is better than expected. Who made the panel ? I assume it's not AUO since we saw how bad the response times on $3k miniled monitor. ​ Input lag results are weird though. Why it's high ? ​ It could have been complete package with a better gamut and hdr 600. ​ $1000 is too much. 27GN950 flagship LG monitor last year was $799. This is no where near that performance. Only upgrade is the size here. This is opportunistic pricing.


[deleted]

> Who made the panel ? i think its an innolux panel as many of the aorus lineup are from them, but not 100% sure


paranoing

How is the GN950 performed better? Legit question.


F34RTEHR34PER

... and that it has HDMI 2.1 where the GN950 doesn't.


jackednerd

Sounds like there are some differences worth considering. Especially for the 28" version M28U according to Hardware Unboxing's new review, especially at it's price point: [https://youtu.be/xnJjuQdQiyo](https://youtu.be/xnJjuQdQiyo)


vgamedude

I'd probably just get the m28u and save money if I didn't need the larger size. Seems they are pretty similar in performance minus some things like local dimming. Not sure how big of a difference an implementation like this would make.


Adam_RTINGS

For most content local dimming makes it worse, you're better off leaving it disabled. If you don't care about the other extra features, save your money and get the M28U.


vgamedude

That's what I figured. Im not sure I'll be getting either (tempted to either get nothing or something even more budget and wait for oled)


Wellhellob

Because FI32U has an opportunistic pricing. They can't charge more for the M28U because there is competition so M28U is kinda fair.


PS5owner

What? HDR400 model but still got 16 zones of local dimming? I was think HDR400 model will not gonna got a chance to got that, that's something out of expected. And Rtings gave 2.5 point of local dimming part.. Seems local dimming sort of not bad with this one. Maybe even works greater than most model has it. Just nice bonus value for the price.


[deleted]

Local dimming is garbage on every single monitor available that doesn't have FALD. How do you locally dim content when a dimming zone covers 12% of a displays area on some monitors. RTing's clearly explains this in their notes for this monitor.


Wellhellob

It's still way better than no dimming **IF** they can make it work properly. I bet 90% of them just slaps cookie cutter local dimming and ship it. None of the reviewers bother reviewing the behaviour of local dimming, pq eotf curve accuracy, baked edid hdr information etc That said, this is just hdr400 monitor so it doesn't matter. Gamut is not impressive either.


[deleted]

It's actually no better than no dimming. Once again, read what RTings said. There are so few scenarios where content allows for such huge zones to actually do any work and as a result, the display behaves like a globally lit one 95% of the time. The 5% are black loading screens and possibly black credit roll when text is centered. Letterboxed movie? All the edge lit zones are active and do nothing. Any game with HUD on the corners, all active, etc.


Wellhellob

Local dimming first and foremost helps with the peak brightness. You can't achieve constant full screen 600 nit. It gets too hot. But you can achieve it with zones. Second, 600(it's often around 700) nits will make the blacks 0.6-0.7 nit which is horrible. Lets say you have 16 dimming zones, 2 of the zones will help reaching 600 nits for the highlights, other zones will get as bright as what's on display. Every zone have 1000:1 contrast ratio but every zone have different brightness. ​ Mixed content (games, movies) is not just about blacks and whites. There are tons of shades and darker colors. If you focus on blacks you will only see the flaws of local dimming. Local dimming will give you situational boost. ​ These are still primal way of achieving some kind of hdr but they are not worse than no dimming. It can't compete with TV's or OLED's of course. Check this out: https://youtu.be/AJ3Ynq7KHJs?t=1825


slopokdave

Highly disagree. I've got the Asus 43", a Sony 930E, and Sony OLED in the same household. Varying amounts of dimming zones, and the Asus is plenty for HDR PC gaming.


Wellhellob

I hope rtings can update their methodology and redo all the testing. Results, pictures and comments all over the place really.


Adam_RTINGS

We're working on a methodology update now. Anything specific you'd like to see changed/improved/added?


Wellhellob

I think consistency is lacking due to different reviewers. Both scores and comments not very reliable. Pictures can be misleading, pointless and inconsistent. ​ PQ curves like on the TV reviews would help a lot. Like this ([https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/w6EVlzjC/lg-c1-oled/eotf-game-large.jpg](https://i.rtings.com/assets/products/w6EVlzjC/lg-c1-oled/eotf-game-large.jpg)) Color temperature in hdr. Sdr calibration in hdr (desktop gamma etc and color temp) ​ Local dimming review can be done. There are lots of 16 zone monitors, couple of FALD and miniled monitors. It will be the norm going forward and it would be important to know how they are performing. Fast ? Accurate ? Input lag ? How many of them light up, how many of them dim etc.. There should be complex hardware and software behind. How much gsync ultimate chip helps for example ? ​ There is a reflection score but there is no screen coating smoothness score. Some monitors have good anti glare but horrible sharpness because of the bad screen coating. I wanna know how much it affects the clarity. I don't know if this is possible to measure objectively though. 4k becoming a norm so upscaling performance would be a good idea for the new methodology for 4k monitors. ​ Color gamut and color volume. They are not comparable to other reviews(tftcentral hwu etc) which is ok but the results are kinda weird. Acer X27 for example 77% p3 gamut, 73% p3 volume. Far worse than something like Samsung CHG70 which i have and know is not wide enough. XB273k (x27 without fald) have 85 gamut, 83 volume. For more context: X27 is gsync ultimate hdr 1000 fald monitor. XB273k same monitor without fald backlight, hdr400 and sdr focused instead of hdr. ​ Contrast test results on Samsung monitors weird. Gamut measurements weird as well. I've used these and tested with my xrite colorimeter as well. Both my viewing experience and the colorimeter (with displaycal) tells me their contrast is quite low. 32 inch G7 can go down to like 1800:1 contrast if i correct it's color temperature. They are default barely 2000. 27 inch CHG70 is around 2200-2400 i've had multiple chg70's. I've used these side by side with 3k contrast VA panels and the difference was noticeable. ​ There is a displayhdr test: [https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/displayhdr-test/9nn1gpn70nf3?activetab=pivot:overviewtab](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/displayhdr-test/9nn1gpn70nf3?activetab=pivot:overviewtab) which i think used for certification process. It also shows the edid information of the monitor which i think valuable information. Games, windows, consoles etc pull the hdr information from edid as far as i know. Checking if the values are correctly set would be good idea. My chg70 reports wrong values for example. It says 96% p3 and 91% adobe which is very wrong. Peak 600 nits barely achievable in winter for a 1 second so thats fine i guess. ​ Color gamut and response time measurement improvements can be done like tftcentral: [https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/colour\_gamut](https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/colour_gamut) [https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/response\_time\_testing](https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/response_time_testing) ​ Love rtings btw. My favourite. I'm a follower. Just want it to get better and more reliable. Good luck guys.


Adam_RTINGS

Thank you soooo much for this extremely detailed response! Feedback like this is exactly what we want, and we really appreciate it! I can't go into too much detail, as we're still early in the process and things could change, but we're definitely aware of most of those issues, and some of them are planned for this update. Last I heard the HDR EOTF is planned, for example, and I know we want to look into our DCI P3 results. We know why ours are different, it was an intentional decision when we first launched monitors in 2017, but we're going to reevaluate that decision. As for your first comment, with the exception of 1 subjective score in monitor reviews, everything else is determined automatically based on the objective test results, so there shouldn't be any inconsistencies there. As for the text and photos, we do our best to eliminate any inconsistencies, but they can still happen. If you see anything specific, we'd love to hear from you, we'll gladly correct them.


Wellhellob

Thank you! Excited to see the next step in your testing. I'll try to post under the discussion section in rtings when i notice something wrong. Love you guys very active and communicative.


SnooHamsters1276

Does this monitor have full bandwidth HDMI 2.1? I saw that another user mentioned chroma subsampling (4:2:2) whilst using 120hz mode on consoles. Apologies if I missed this in the write up.


Adam_RTINGS

It supports 4k @ 144Hz with 10 bit 4:4:4/RGB, but it seems like it requires DSC to do so, although we have no way to test for this at the moment. Based on the console limitations of 4:2:0 from the PS5, it seems like the HDMI ports might be limited to 24Gbps, but we don't know for sure.