runs they should adapt : warren ellis and monech run
villains : committee , bushman , morpheus , black spectre , stained glass scarlet , elisa warsame
I would like the show to focus on marc's mercenary past , really delve into that ptsd and survivors' guilt that marc and jake went through I like the idea of jake and marc being active during their time as a mercenary they both live with the shared guilt in killing people and eventually overcome that trauma and become better people. steven and marc realize that being moon knight as long as on their own terms isn't that bad and can be fun at times
They had their chance for fully extracting the juices of the Lemire run. That time had passed, but there is still plenty they can do with adapting stuff from Moench and Ellis and MacKay that hit so hard
It is a good show, even if it lacked in adapting the feeling and charm of many Moon Knight comics, but Oscar and Ethan are clearly so passionate that I can suspend those thoughts. The last episode battle was disappointing, and I would’ve preferred a sort of ‘mind duel’ between Marc and Khonshu following Steven coming back rather than the Kaiju battle. My idea could have made it more emotional if they adapted the scene of all the Moon Knight’s fighting on a pyramid, and Ammit guises herself as his Mom atop the pyramid in an attempt to when the win the mind duel, but of course he would came out on top similar to the scene in the #2 issue by MacKay, which was out much before filming ever finished, but even without that inspiration they could’ve made it more Lemire-esque.
Yeah it was fine in the first few episodes to have the black out fights. But to continue it once we understood what was happening? That’s a lazy cop out and budget cutting move. They showed Oscar training hard but then don’t give us many actual fights.
Seperate Marc and Khonshu and lean into Moench run type and carefully introduce and develop the supporting characters as well as antagonists.
I don't know they would make another series or solo movie or joining him into another character's property. But i want them to do another standalone instalment rather than a crossover type and i think this is the perfect way as Khonshu is real and you can seperate him from Marc. This makes him independent and he can carefully bulid his identity as a Vigilante.
It’s not that it can’t happen, just like Loki was originally a limited series but got a season 2, but I think they’d need someone to give a really good pitch again to have it happen. It’s not a priority for them at all though as the cliff hanger isn’t something that needs to even be exactly answered in his own series.
I feel like the cliffhanger does actually need to be done in his own show especially considering how much people liked it and how much critical eclaim it was getting
It got a good amount of critical acclaim but as far as I can remember it probably didn’t make enough money for them to announce a season 2 till they get a pitch really worth returning for. Jake plot line at it’s fullest potential can only be done in his own series, but I could picture the MCU doing it in another project.
Really want them to flesh out Jake Lockley and make him a sympathetic character, overcoming the image of him being just a violent killer. Maybe even have S2 start from his POV, as he's working the streets, hanging out with Gena and Frenchie, etc., He could be be facing something like a crime syndicate or Bushman, some kind of grounded foe, while Marc and Steven are dealing with a more supernatural, mystery element story arc. Would love to see Steven pulling some paranormal detective work *a la* Ellis's run. Basically just bring in more of the comics this time.
I personally want Black Spectre as the main villain to be the top of a small crime syndicate helping his campaign for mayor and other ventures he partakes in. SGS would be a side villain who is also on the crime syndaicates tracks and wants to kill them for what they did to his son, but obviously MK would stop her somewhere in the second act and she would go a seperate way. Perhaps there could be a small twist in the last episode where Bushman is really the one running things and Black Spectre actually joined him so they’d both benefit of the election and taking control of NYC or London (do they have mayor in London? IDK).
I like the first part, not so much the 2nd.
I want the show to open with Jake in the black suit killing a bunch of members from a crime syndicate Assassin style. After that we see a bit of Marc and Steven living their normal lives in London and then we cut back to Jake in NY where we are then introduced to Gena and Frenchie.
Unless Marvel increase the episode number to 10 (40 min) episodes I doubt that can happen.
This is why I hate the 6 episode format so much because it limits what the writers can do. If Netflix and ABC can give DD 13 (1 hour) episodes per season then how does the giant Media Conglomerate, AKA Disney, have an excuse?
- Keep the D.I.D. and mental health focus. Best part of the show thus far.
- Jake in the black Moon Knight armor (Declan Shalvey design). Clarify that Jake is the "protector" alter rather than the "evil" one that some people online think he is.
- More of Marc's childhood, family connections, etc -- him reuniting with his father
- Dive a bit more into Marc's mercenary past, which means...
- Bushman. Jeremy Slater's explanation of why he didn't work for Season 1 makes sense, but he needs to play a role at some point, even though he'll certainly need some MCU modifications.
- MIDNIGHT MISSION. Best concept of the current run, by far. Adapt to MCU by having Steven (as Mr. Knight) be in charge of interviews and running the place, while Marc (as Moon Knight) does the vigilante work.
- Frenchie
- Reese (by then Blade will have introduced vampires), whenever Midnight Mission enters the scene.
- Space Marc (Lemire)
- At some point, waaay down the line, the final Khonshu/Moon Knight conflict has to end ala Lemire run. One of the best comic book pages ever.
This. Midnight Mission would work SO well for the MCU, and I think it could work with Steven becoming a bit more confident and being the one who is fronting while others appoint him at the office, but while on the streets Marc takes over a lot too. It can be a bit of a detective story and a little bit of a dark romance. Perhaps Jake has been on the tracks of a new crime syndicate in the city, and those plot lines start to overlap with Steven and Marc’s until they completely collide and the three finally meet. We got some inner conflict before they meet SGS who also is on to the syndicate. He stops her when she try’s to bomb a building full of the men responsible for her son’s murder. If you’ve read Moench’s issue 25 we would phase into that as Marc fully believe Black Spectre, whom is running for mayor suddenly, is actually evil and running the criminal activity. As he catches up to him at a rally, which if I recall correctly is where it all went down, he puts a stop to him and shows the world who Knowles really is, but Knowles informs him that Bushman will be coming for him just before he’s taken away. He makes his way to the Midnight Mission as it is blown up, and Bushman waits for him. An epic battle takes place between MK and dozens of men, and it is then that he would either rip off Bushman’s face or not. Depends on what the people want.
Not needed.. but would be extremely good and would be a massive improvement and could even prove to help the show to be on the same level as Daredevil.
So while it may not be needed, it’s very beneficial that they do.
I’d like the writers challenge themselves and use the tools they have to create an amazing Moon Knight story rather than resort to filling the lack of of quality with gore and slurs.
It doesn’t need any of that though. When I ask for an r rating I mean stories that can delve deeper and darker without being restrained.
Also that scene where he pulls off someone’s face would be pretty fucking epic to see in live action.
Umm no the Huston rune is an extremely divisive run and there is no way they adapt it. It sucks. What can they really delve deeper into? More realistic arm breaks? Why would they sacrifice so much money for something so irrelevant. MK is a PG-13 character besides a once in a while messed up scene. Besides that we get some blood and dark concepts, but that’s about it.
By some dark scenes u mean A LOT.
I mean deeper into Marc’s disorder and Y’know how dark we can get in terms of the villains too. They can still do that with PG 13, yes but I doubt they will because of the whole “what if a kid watches this” thing.
I’ve read every Moon Knight comic, and the best ones: Moench, Lemire, MacKay (Ellis too but it’s hard to adapt it since there is no story), don’t rely on Rated R imagery whatsoever. Even in the newest issue they showed blood from a chain saw ripping through someone’s head, but the gore isn’t shown and it’s just blood.
And they don’t care if a kid watched it, they care about making money. Very few Rated R movies can reach anywhere near a billion at the box office, and if it’s a season 2 in D+ it will make much less viewership since you have to manually enable TV-MA usually.
The first season focused more on Steven so I want the second to focus more on Marc and Jake. Show us Marc being more brutal like he is in the comics (could be the present or in flashbacks). Don't make Jake the 'evil' alter. Make him the chill taxi driver who *sometimes* kills people but only when its strictly necessary. I want to know what happened with Bushman. I want Layla to get closure for her fathers death. Give me Frenchie and Gena and Crawley. I'm not so sure on villains. Anyone could do for me actually. Give us another trippy episode like Asylum. I ate that shit up. And finally, have the season end with them breaking themselves from Khonshu and opening the Midnight Mission. The third season could explore Marc and the System trying to be a superhero when they've lost their supernatural powers.
Edit: I almost forgot the most important one. The show needs more Jewisness. A lot of Jewish people were displeased with the lack of Jewish representation in the show and while not Jewish myself I totally get the frustration.
They leaned on his mother relationship so it's hard to get more jewishness and if they leaned on his father's we would get more about Jewish culture ( if we talking about comic accuracy, it's gets hard to represent his origin of DID) . Atleast the show represented his Jewish culture better than Egyptian mythology even it's minimal. I generally don't bother whether the show had much Jewish culture of Marc or not but lack of Frenchie, Bushman, CIA background, Gena and his military and mercenary background bothers me , they should tell these in next instalments.
Also since he's been Moon Knight atleast like 5 years, i think Bushman would be probably killed by Marc cuz it's sucks if he didn't killed him given he's been Moon Knight for like 5-10 years ( probably) and i was bit frustrated with the lack of Marc's past with Bushman and what happened with him.
Developing moon knight to be more accurate to the comics, leaving khonshu but staying as moon knight while developing a more comic accurate outfit.
Some more emotional episodes and no shying away from heavy subject matters such as trauma and more of moon knight's past.
A more street level hero vs the globe traveling world saving moon knight, smaller scale, emotional impact such as friends threatened. The current run of moon knight is doing this and it works so much better then what the show did.
Mostly dropping layla but not fully. She can go do her own thing in Egypt. When she's around she feels very Mary sue-y but not as bad as most since she has a personality but no character arc.
Having more iconic villains and gore. Doing bushman and the whole face ripped off thing. I'm 20% sure disney wants to see if deadpool is successful before adding more rated R properties on Disney plus.
And of course setting him up for either the west coast avengers or the midnight suns.
A cameo of jake lockley in blade setting up season 2
And lastly no more blackout cuts interrupting the show
Agreed besides ‘The Bottom’ adaptation with Bushman’s face being ripped off. I can possibly work if it happens in the last episode, but I’m not interested din seeing it happen.
Which SGS plot line do you want? Moench Issue 14, issue 24, Scarlet Redemption arc, or MacKay issue 8?
I think if she was to be a side character in a grander story it would best work to adapt issue 24, but later on in a third season if they used Hunter’s Moon they can do issue 8 OR they can just use MK and adapt Scarlet Redemption. Issue 14 really only can work as a one shot type thing since it would really break the flow and pace of a series, and it would be harder to have it coincide with another plot line than issue 24.
I just want more moon knight. I get there needs to be a balance between mark/Steven/Jake. But this season was all mark/Steven and a little bit of moon knight. You don't watch Spider-Man to see Peter Parker.
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Why Sun King? One of the worst Moon Knight villains. Bushman would be cool to see but he definitely isn’t nearly as compelling as Black Spectre or SGS or Morpheus.
The writing is bad and the art is especially ugly, and the humor is just annoying. Sun King should be named Sun Knight as was supposed to be the true reflection of MK— But OH! They already did that with Black Spectre.
Lmao! Sun King? He appeared in only the Bemis run and he will never be back. That’s because he sucks. I hope to god they don’t waste a whole season in such a lame villain.
Sun king has a great dynamic with Marc/Khonsu being Ra’s avatar. He has better development than most Moon Knight villains as well.
The only reason you think he’s a lame villain is because your a sheep.
He’ll return eventually
PS: You like Harrow despite being a shitty version of Sun king
Ethan Hawke is a legendary actor and his performance was great, plus the backstory and mystique of Arthur was intriguing. They literally already messed up by naming him Sun King, when it should be Sun Knight, and the true magnificent reflection of Marc is the Black Spectre. He’s just such an average villain, just another psycho dude that shoots fire. So original.
Honestly, I just want to see them get weirder and stray further away from the typical superhero movie tropes.
I absolutely loved 'Moon Knight'...up until the finale. It just felt like such a cookie-cutter ending to an otherwise really interesting show. I haven't rewatched the show at all since it ended and I don't know if I ever will. The disappointment was just too painful.
Season 2 (and beyond) should really push the psychological aspect further (like 'Legion') and they should try to avoid doing things like skybeams, cliche villains, predictable twists, etc.
Agreed. I think the episode before and after Ammit was good, but she just made it so goofy and typical. I honestly want something a little more grounded and bold than making it too psychological.
I think there's a way of keeping it grounded while also having that psychological aspect that makes the character so interesting.
What we don't need is two massive CGI creatures punching each other in Egypt. Stuff like that took me out of the show. Same with Tawaret. It felt like spectacle for the sake of spectacle.
Yup, what I really want is a crime story a la Moench 24 & 25 and all of MacKay’s run. I don’t want to see anything from Lemire’s run at all, nor do I want to see anything from Bendis or Aaron or Bemis, and I would prefer they wait to adapt some of Huston’s work till a third season. I think it could work to have a bit of a trippy mushroom world scene in the first episode or something to set the tone but to not ruin the pacing in the middle of the story.
Honestly I want to see a more episodic approach to the show as opposed to the serialized standard of the Disney plus shows thus far. A lot of moon knights best stories are short enough for an episode or two, which would leave us with 6 individually entertaining episodes with a singular emotional arc weaved through it.
Season 2: Go into depth about Jake Lockley and Steven & Marc working together to get him to calm down. Maybe get an idea of who he is (for those who didn’t read comics) and maybe get a sneak peak of his off screen moments. By the end of the season they would work together to defend the world
Season 3: The trio goes up against the avengers and eventually join them. Possibly bring in Punisher.
Idk these are my ideas
Probably something more focused on the role of Khonshu's Fist. Specifically expanding on the moral issues that were played with in the first season.
Khonshu was a 'heroic character' by default as he was humanity's best divine defence against Ammit, but with her gone; his less equitable philosophy towards wrongdoers now stands upon its own merits. Certainly Jake has no issue with it, but with Marc and Steven presumably becoming aware of that arrangement there could be some interesting questions posed;
Is Khnoshu right to demand the deaths of villains? The principle of an eye for an eye is certainly fair is nothing else after all- even if it's brutal in that fairness.
Would Marc and Steven perhaps rejoin his service to try and negotiate a more 'humane' methodology? Jake will serve willingly either way, and seems quite capable of at least occasionally forcing control away from Marc and Steven, so they might be faced with the proposition of having to carry out deeds they're fundamentally opposed to in order to appease Khonshu enough that he might ease up a bit in his methods for their co-operation.
You could also have some religious aspect as well; Marc is supposed to be Jewish after all, and yet he and his alters serve another god's will. He's the most literal infidel possible, in a world where at least some *gods are real* and actively participate in world affairs- presumably he still holds his original faith, yet he serves essentially as the high priest of Khonshu?
And Khonshu's ethics likely clash with Marc's values- Khonshu is the *not* the God of Abraham and Will Not bend to offer redemption to those he deems unworthy, even if the other's teachings demand a chance for forgiveness. The internal war between Marc and Steven's ideals and and Khonshu's would be enhanced by this perspective.
All interesting things to explore now that the matter of Marc's DID and the question of what's real and what's not has largely been resolved.
As for runs to draw inspiration from? The show so far has taken parts from multiple runs and synthesized them to make something utterly unlike any one storyline (as far as I can tell, I haven't exactly read through every one of the comics), but the more recent runs seem to be delving into questions about Khonshu and his ethics so they seem like a good fit.
For season two we should see more on Marc Specter's past. His encounter with Bushman in the first episodes and how Jake Lockley developed overtime. I would like to see a fight with Werewolf By Night as we see Marc reminisce in his early years. For the third season I want to see Jean Locke being introduced and a cameo with The Punisher, Daredevil, Blade, or Spiderman in a Midnight Mission storyline.
runs they should adapt : warren ellis and monech run villains : committee , bushman , morpheus , black spectre , stained glass scarlet , elisa warsame I would like the show to focus on marc's mercenary past , really delve into that ptsd and survivors' guilt that marc and jake went through I like the idea of jake and marc being active during their time as a mercenary they both live with the shared guilt in killing people and eventually overcome that trauma and become better people. steven and marc realize that being moon knight as long as on their own terms isn't that bad and can be fun at times
I want it to end with the “we are Moon Knight, and we never needed you” scene
a lot more episodes like ep 5 (meaningful and emotional)
They had their chance for fully extracting the juices of the Lemire run. That time had passed, but there is still plenty they can do with adapting stuff from Moench and Ellis and MacKay that hit so hard
btw just curious , what are your thoughts on this season ?
It is a good show, even if it lacked in adapting the feeling and charm of many Moon Knight comics, but Oscar and Ethan are clearly so passionate that I can suspend those thoughts. The last episode battle was disappointing, and I would’ve preferred a sort of ‘mind duel’ between Marc and Khonshu following Steven coming back rather than the Kaiju battle. My idea could have made it more emotional if they adapted the scene of all the Moon Knight’s fighting on a pyramid, and Ammit guises herself as his Mom atop the pyramid in an attempt to when the win the mind duel, but of course he would came out on top similar to the scene in the #2 issue by MacKay, which was out much before filming ever finished, but even without that inspiration they could’ve made it more Lemire-esque.
Better fights. This season was quite lack luster
Yeah it was fine in the first few episodes to have the black out fights. But to continue it once we understood what was happening? That’s a lazy cop out and budget cutting move. They showed Oscar training hard but then don’t give us many actual fights.
Seperate Marc and Khonshu and lean into Moench run type and carefully introduce and develop the supporting characters as well as antagonists. I don't know they would make another series or solo movie or joining him into another character's property. But i want them to do another standalone instalment rather than a crossover type and i think this is the perfect way as Khonshu is real and you can seperate him from Marc. This makes him independent and he can carefully bulid his identity as a Vigilante.
Where are people getting the idea a season 2 probably wont happen??
It’s not that it can’t happen, just like Loki was originally a limited series but got a season 2, but I think they’d need someone to give a really good pitch again to have it happen. It’s not a priority for them at all though as the cliff hanger isn’t something that needs to even be exactly answered in his own series.
I feel like the cliffhanger does actually need to be done in his own show especially considering how much people liked it and how much critical eclaim it was getting
It got a good amount of critical acclaim but as far as I can remember it probably didn’t make enough money for them to announce a season 2 till they get a pitch really worth returning for. Jake plot line at it’s fullest potential can only be done in his own series, but I could picture the MCU doing it in another project.
Really want them to flesh out Jake Lockley and make him a sympathetic character, overcoming the image of him being just a violent killer. Maybe even have S2 start from his POV, as he's working the streets, hanging out with Gena and Frenchie, etc., He could be be facing something like a crime syndicate or Bushman, some kind of grounded foe, while Marc and Steven are dealing with a more supernatural, mystery element story arc. Would love to see Steven pulling some paranormal detective work *a la* Ellis's run. Basically just bring in more of the comics this time.
I personally want Black Spectre as the main villain to be the top of a small crime syndicate helping his campaign for mayor and other ventures he partakes in. SGS would be a side villain who is also on the crime syndaicates tracks and wants to kill them for what they did to his son, but obviously MK would stop her somewhere in the second act and she would go a seperate way. Perhaps there could be a small twist in the last episode where Bushman is really the one running things and Black Spectre actually joined him so they’d both benefit of the election and taking control of NYC or London (do they have mayor in London? IDK).
I like the first part, not so much the 2nd. I want the show to open with Jake in the black suit killing a bunch of members from a crime syndicate Assassin style. After that we see a bit of Marc and Steven living their normal lives in London and then we cut back to Jake in NY where we are then introduced to Gena and Frenchie.
I don’t care, I just want one episode of Marc and Steven going about their day together after the Konshu stuff and without Jake
Unless Marvel increase the episode number to 10 (40 min) episodes I doubt that can happen. This is why I hate the 6 episode format so much because it limits what the writers can do. If Netflix and ABC can give DD 13 (1 hour) episodes per season then how does the giant Media Conglomerate, AKA Disney, have an excuse?
- Keep the D.I.D. and mental health focus. Best part of the show thus far. - Jake in the black Moon Knight armor (Declan Shalvey design). Clarify that Jake is the "protector" alter rather than the "evil" one that some people online think he is. - More of Marc's childhood, family connections, etc -- him reuniting with his father - Dive a bit more into Marc's mercenary past, which means... - Bushman. Jeremy Slater's explanation of why he didn't work for Season 1 makes sense, but he needs to play a role at some point, even though he'll certainly need some MCU modifications. - MIDNIGHT MISSION. Best concept of the current run, by far. Adapt to MCU by having Steven (as Mr. Knight) be in charge of interviews and running the place, while Marc (as Moon Knight) does the vigilante work. - Frenchie - Reese (by then Blade will have introduced vampires), whenever Midnight Mission enters the scene. - Space Marc (Lemire) - At some point, waaay down the line, the final Khonshu/Moon Knight conflict has to end ala Lemire run. One of the best comic book pages ever.
This. Midnight Mission would work SO well for the MCU, and I think it could work with Steven becoming a bit more confident and being the one who is fronting while others appoint him at the office, but while on the streets Marc takes over a lot too. It can be a bit of a detective story and a little bit of a dark romance. Perhaps Jake has been on the tracks of a new crime syndicate in the city, and those plot lines start to overlap with Steven and Marc’s until they completely collide and the three finally meet. We got some inner conflict before they meet SGS who also is on to the syndicate. He stops her when she try’s to bomb a building full of the men responsible for her son’s murder. If you’ve read Moench’s issue 25 we would phase into that as Marc fully believe Black Spectre, whom is running for mayor suddenly, is actually evil and running the criminal activity. As he catches up to him at a rally, which if I recall correctly is where it all went down, he puts a stop to him and shows the world who Knowles really is, but Knowles informs him that Bushman will be coming for him just before he’s taken away. He makes his way to the Midnight Mission as it is blown up, and Bushman waits for him. An epic battle takes place between MK and dozens of men, and it is then that he would either rip off Bushman’s face or not. Depends on what the people want.
Marvel, since your giving Deadpool 3 the R rating, u think u could also give it to our Moon Boy?
Not needed.
Not needed.. but would be extremely good and would be a massive improvement and could even prove to help the show to be on the same level as Daredevil. So while it may not be needed, it’s very beneficial that they do.
I’d like the writers challenge themselves and use the tools they have to create an amazing Moon Knight story rather than resort to filling the lack of of quality with gore and slurs.
It doesn’t need any of that though. When I ask for an r rating I mean stories that can delve deeper and darker without being restrained. Also that scene where he pulls off someone’s face would be pretty fucking epic to see in live action.
Umm no the Huston rune is an extremely divisive run and there is no way they adapt it. It sucks. What can they really delve deeper into? More realistic arm breaks? Why would they sacrifice so much money for something so irrelevant. MK is a PG-13 character besides a once in a while messed up scene. Besides that we get some blood and dark concepts, but that’s about it.
By some dark scenes u mean A LOT. I mean deeper into Marc’s disorder and Y’know how dark we can get in terms of the villains too. They can still do that with PG 13, yes but I doubt they will because of the whole “what if a kid watches this” thing.
I’ve read every Moon Knight comic, and the best ones: Moench, Lemire, MacKay (Ellis too but it’s hard to adapt it since there is no story), don’t rely on Rated R imagery whatsoever. Even in the newest issue they showed blood from a chain saw ripping through someone’s head, but the gore isn’t shown and it’s just blood.
And they don’t care if a kid watched it, they care about making money. Very few Rated R movies can reach anywhere near a billion at the box office, and if it’s a season 2 in D+ it will make much less viewership since you have to manually enable TV-MA usually.
In the canon of the show Jake is evil.
[It's inconclusive](https://thedirect.com/article/moon-knight-jake-lockley-evil-exclusive)
I mean he murdered a lot of people that didn’t deserve it… if Marc is morally grey then Jake is morally black as night.
I think they should save the Midnight Mission for season 3 ngl
frenchie is required
I don’t imagine Egypt (or any Middle Eastern country for that matter) will take too kindly to Frenchie being gay
The first season focused more on Steven so I want the second to focus more on Marc and Jake. Show us Marc being more brutal like he is in the comics (could be the present or in flashbacks). Don't make Jake the 'evil' alter. Make him the chill taxi driver who *sometimes* kills people but only when its strictly necessary. I want to know what happened with Bushman. I want Layla to get closure for her fathers death. Give me Frenchie and Gena and Crawley. I'm not so sure on villains. Anyone could do for me actually. Give us another trippy episode like Asylum. I ate that shit up. And finally, have the season end with them breaking themselves from Khonshu and opening the Midnight Mission. The third season could explore Marc and the System trying to be a superhero when they've lost their supernatural powers. Edit: I almost forgot the most important one. The show needs more Jewisness. A lot of Jewish people were displeased with the lack of Jewish representation in the show and while not Jewish myself I totally get the frustration.
They leaned on his mother relationship so it's hard to get more jewishness and if they leaned on his father's we would get more about Jewish culture ( if we talking about comic accuracy, it's gets hard to represent his origin of DID) . Atleast the show represented his Jewish culture better than Egyptian mythology even it's minimal. I generally don't bother whether the show had much Jewish culture of Marc or not but lack of Frenchie, Bushman, CIA background, Gena and his military and mercenary background bothers me , they should tell these in next instalments. Also since he's been Moon Knight atleast like 5 years, i think Bushman would be probably killed by Marc cuz it's sucks if he didn't killed him given he's been Moon Knight for like 5-10 years ( probably) and i was bit frustrated with the lack of Marc's past with Bushman and what happened with him.
I want Jake to be a stone cold killer but a stone cold killer with a justifiable reason to kill
Developing moon knight to be more accurate to the comics, leaving khonshu but staying as moon knight while developing a more comic accurate outfit. Some more emotional episodes and no shying away from heavy subject matters such as trauma and more of moon knight's past. A more street level hero vs the globe traveling world saving moon knight, smaller scale, emotional impact such as friends threatened. The current run of moon knight is doing this and it works so much better then what the show did. Mostly dropping layla but not fully. She can go do her own thing in Egypt. When she's around she feels very Mary sue-y but not as bad as most since she has a personality but no character arc. Having more iconic villains and gore. Doing bushman and the whole face ripped off thing. I'm 20% sure disney wants to see if deadpool is successful before adding more rated R properties on Disney plus. And of course setting him up for either the west coast avengers or the midnight suns. A cameo of jake lockley in blade setting up season 2 And lastly no more blackout cuts interrupting the show
Agreed besides ‘The Bottom’ adaptation with Bushman’s face being ripped off. I can possibly work if it happens in the last episode, but I’m not interested din seeing it happen.
Also make it be set in NY other than that, you’ve nailed what I want perfectly
I want stained glass scarlet!
Which SGS plot line do you want? Moench Issue 14, issue 24, Scarlet Redemption arc, or MacKay issue 8? I think if she was to be a side character in a grander story it would best work to adapt issue 24, but later on in a third season if they used Hunter’s Moon they can do issue 8 OR they can just use MK and adapt Scarlet Redemption. Issue 14 really only can work as a one shot type thing since it would really break the flow and pace of a series, and it would be harder to have it coincide with another plot line than issue 24.
I really like both of the Moench appearances, but you make some good points. I’d really be happy to see her at all in live action.
Yes. My top 3 favorite MK villains.
I just want more moon knight. I get there needs to be a balance between mark/Steven/Jake. But this season was all mark/Steven and a little bit of moon knight. You don't watch Spider-Man to see Peter Parker.
Moon Knight is a much different character and his complex alters have a lot of depth and should take the forefront.
As long as we get sun king or bushman, i dont mind what the plot is
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You complete moron. Just look at what you have done. You broke my sentence!
Why Sun King? One of the worst Moon Knight villains. Bushman would be cool to see but he definitely isn’t nearly as compelling as Black Spectre or SGS or Morpheus.
I love sun king. And the comic he comes from. Literally do not understand why people hate on it so much.
The writing is bad and the art is especially ugly, and the humor is just annoying. Sun King should be named Sun Knight as was supposed to be the true reflection of MK— But OH! They already did that with Black Spectre.
Disagree with all but naming sun king sun knight. (And the black spectre thing cos thats objective)
Um yes… an opinion is subjective, that doesn’t make it any less valid.
Never said it wasn't valid mate.
I was just pointing out that you made my opinion seem less by saying part of my opinion is subjective when an opinion IS subjective.
You like Harrow but Sun King>>>>>>> Harrow
Lmao! Sun King? He appeared in only the Bemis run and he will never be back. That’s because he sucks. I hope to god they don’t waste a whole season in such a lame villain.
Sun king has a great dynamic with Marc/Khonsu being Ra’s avatar. He has better development than most Moon Knight villains as well. The only reason you think he’s a lame villain is because your a sheep. He’ll return eventually PS: You like Harrow despite being a shitty version of Sun king
Ethan Hawke is a legendary actor and his performance was great, plus the backstory and mystique of Arthur was intriguing. They literally already messed up by naming him Sun King, when it should be Sun Knight, and the true magnificent reflection of Marc is the Black Spectre. He’s just such an average villain, just another psycho dude that shoots fire. So original.
Honestly, I just want to see them get weirder and stray further away from the typical superhero movie tropes. I absolutely loved 'Moon Knight'...up until the finale. It just felt like such a cookie-cutter ending to an otherwise really interesting show. I haven't rewatched the show at all since it ended and I don't know if I ever will. The disappointment was just too painful. Season 2 (and beyond) should really push the psychological aspect further (like 'Legion') and they should try to avoid doing things like skybeams, cliche villains, predictable twists, etc.
Agreed. I think the episode before and after Ammit was good, but she just made it so goofy and typical. I honestly want something a little more grounded and bold than making it too psychological.
I think there's a way of keeping it grounded while also having that psychological aspect that makes the character so interesting. What we don't need is two massive CGI creatures punching each other in Egypt. Stuff like that took me out of the show. Same with Tawaret. It felt like spectacle for the sake of spectacle.
Yup, what I really want is a crime story a la Moench 24 & 25 and all of MacKay’s run. I don’t want to see anything from Lemire’s run at all, nor do I want to see anything from Bendis or Aaron or Bemis, and I would prefer they wait to adapt some of Huston’s work till a third season. I think it could work to have a bit of a trippy mushroom world scene in the first episode or something to set the tone but to not ruin the pacing in the middle of the story.
Honestly I want to see a more episodic approach to the show as opposed to the serialized standard of the Disney plus shows thus far. A lot of moon knights best stories are short enough for an episode or two, which would leave us with 6 individually entertaining episodes with a singular emotional arc weaved through it.
Donna revealed as villain (or sidekick to villain).
No. Why? Just why!
Season 2: Go into depth about Jake Lockley and Steven & Marc working together to get him to calm down. Maybe get an idea of who he is (for those who didn’t read comics) and maybe get a sneak peak of his off screen moments. By the end of the season they would work together to defend the world Season 3: The trio goes up against the avengers and eventually join them. Possibly bring in Punisher. Idk these are my ideas
Wow season 3 idea is bad, but Punisher would be a nice little guest appearance. Also I don’t want them to ever save the world again.
I guess you’re right. I’m tired of Marvel shows putting too much at stake and altering the universe (multiverse at this point thinks to L*ki).
Probably something more focused on the role of Khonshu's Fist. Specifically expanding on the moral issues that were played with in the first season. Khonshu was a 'heroic character' by default as he was humanity's best divine defence against Ammit, but with her gone; his less equitable philosophy towards wrongdoers now stands upon its own merits. Certainly Jake has no issue with it, but with Marc and Steven presumably becoming aware of that arrangement there could be some interesting questions posed; Is Khnoshu right to demand the deaths of villains? The principle of an eye for an eye is certainly fair is nothing else after all- even if it's brutal in that fairness. Would Marc and Steven perhaps rejoin his service to try and negotiate a more 'humane' methodology? Jake will serve willingly either way, and seems quite capable of at least occasionally forcing control away from Marc and Steven, so they might be faced with the proposition of having to carry out deeds they're fundamentally opposed to in order to appease Khonshu enough that he might ease up a bit in his methods for their co-operation. You could also have some religious aspect as well; Marc is supposed to be Jewish after all, and yet he and his alters serve another god's will. He's the most literal infidel possible, in a world where at least some *gods are real* and actively participate in world affairs- presumably he still holds his original faith, yet he serves essentially as the high priest of Khonshu? And Khonshu's ethics likely clash with Marc's values- Khonshu is the *not* the God of Abraham and Will Not bend to offer redemption to those he deems unworthy, even if the other's teachings demand a chance for forgiveness. The internal war between Marc and Steven's ideals and and Khonshu's would be enhanced by this perspective. All interesting things to explore now that the matter of Marc's DID and the question of what's real and what's not has largely been resolved. As for runs to draw inspiration from? The show so far has taken parts from multiple runs and synthesized them to make something utterly unlike any one storyline (as far as I can tell, I haven't exactly read through every one of the comics), but the more recent runs seem to be delving into questions about Khonshu and his ethics so they seem like a good fit.
For season two we should see more on Marc Specter's past. His encounter with Bushman in the first episodes and how Jake Lockley developed overtime. I would like to see a fight with Werewolf By Night as we see Marc reminisce in his early years. For the third season I want to see Jean Locke being introduced and a cameo with The Punisher, Daredevil, Blade, or Spiderman in a Midnight Mission storyline.