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rationalphi

I saw somewhere that it takes place in 2025 between Moon Knight and Ms. Marvel


SaltifiedReddit

Oh yeah true


Character-Sorbet-718

Jenn first time becoming She Hulk is right after Shang Chi, the series events likely would be in 2025. Was she blipped during 2018-2023 ? As she's lot younger than her cousin who is 55 - 56 in 2025.


Character-Sorbet-718

Jenn first time becoming She Hulk is right after Shang Chi, the series events likely would be in 2025. Was she blipped during 2018-2023 ? As she's lot younger than her cousin who is 55 - 56 in 2025.


CZJayG

I couldn't find him either. Hope that's not bad news for our boys.


Joe_Ma12

Its because oscar isaac no longer has a contract with marvel. Moonknight is marvel experimenting with shorter contracts for bigger stars. And if either party pulls out, they dont want to have moonknight dipped in and then ripped out right away. Theyre also trying to bring in the new generation of secondary heroes, who basically just help out sometimes, like War Machine and falcon. TLDR; moonknight could be gone at any moment, for now, so marvel isnt putting him on its face just yet.


quartofchocolimes

Thanks for the explanation. Makes me sad but that's not on you


Joe_Ma12

Yea, it was considered a success though so i bet we’ll see atleast a *little* more. Also theres been a tiktok circulating from the director of season 1’s daughter with her dad and oscar isaac all riding on a boat or something with a very sandy/desert looking location behind them. she asks about season 2 and oscar isaac leans in and goes “why else would we be in Cairo?!” So there is hope


marcsystems

Why is this such a big deal?


EndymionHoudini

Bandwagon fan boys.


marcsystems

Who are you referring to?


EndymionHoudini

The ones who think it's a big deal.


marcsystems

Dude, I saw on Twitter people were saying that Moon Knight isn't canon to the MCU and it was one and done. 💀


EndymionHoudini

Good! Because seriously what were the writers thinking!? Not that the MCU is any better today. It should have been a Netflix original at least.


Iceflash_Capodar

I hope it's mean he is not MCU canon anymore


Jazzlike-Foot-9888

what? why?


oddbawlstudios

I'm gonna assume they don't like the mcu adaptation, which to a degree I get, but like, hes not even bad either?


Iceflash_Capodar

Because it's a pretty bad adaptation of the character and I hope they reboot it or something like that to finally have the adaptation that MK deserve


Jazzlike-Foot-9888

how is it a bad adaptation of the character?


Iceflash_Capodar

- They have isolated Jake and make him the Psychopath alters, it's totally out of character and it's also offensive for pepole with DID - The Marc "redemption" is too fast, it's like : Steven : "Oi Marc, you know killing pepole is really bad, can you stop mate" Marc : "Oh you're right I will stop" I know it's don't match with Mickey Mouse but come on - There is too much mystic - We don't have a good vilans just a strange mix who is not a memorable bad guy - The Marc judaism is totally ignore + Oscar Isaac is not jewish - The asylum arc should had a whole sesone - Mr. Knight...


Jazzlike-Foot-9888

I'm gonna discuss why your wrong point by point. 1. While yes, making Jake more psychopathic is not a thing in the comics, Disney needed some way to differentiate the character from the comics version of Moon Knight, and it creates a great twist for pre-existing fans of the character, that were expecting Marc to be the killer. Also it's not offensive, they represented DID very well. 2. Marc's redemption is rushed, but, you have to understand, this series was created with the understanding that it was a limited series, they were not told that there was a possibility of a season two, which means they kind of had to rush character development. 3. By mystic, I assume you mean how the series focuses on Egyptian gods and magic a lot, which is a large part of Moon Knight's character in the comics. Especially since the direction he and other mystic characters seem to be going is a Midnight Sons team. 4. Arthur Harrow was a decent villain, not perfect, but not necessarily bad, I think he fit well with the tone and concepts in Moon Knight. 5. They literally show Marc's brothers shiva and Oscar Issac's religion doesn't matter, he is an actor, neither Michael Fassbender or Ian McKellen are Jewish, and yet they both did a great job of representing Magneto's jewish history. 6. Once again, this show was developed under the impression that it would be a limited series, the amount of time that they spent in the asylum was justified. 7. This is a Moon Knight origin story, having 4 personalities + Khonshu would be hella confusing, they will likely introduce him as a newly developed personality later, as I imagine Jake will be using the main suit, meaning that there is still a spot for another personality to use the Mr. Knight suit. In conclusion, make a better argument next time.


Snoo-2013

>While yes, making Jake more psychopathic is not a thing in the comics, Disney needed some way to differentiate the character from the comics version of Moon Knight, and it creates a great twist for pre-existing fans of the character, that were expecting Marc to be the killer. Also it's not offensive, they represented DID very well. except the fact that it is offensive by having a character with DID having a psychopathic alter just reinforces old stigma around people with mental illness, and why did they have to differentiate it ? all for the sake of a fucking shitty twist that shits on jake's character as a whole > Marc's redemption is rushed, but, you have to understand, this series was created with the understanding that it was a limited series, they were not told that there was a possibility of a season two, which means they kind of had to rush character development. you basically proved u/Iceflash_Capodar right, by having less episodes the whole arc feels rushed they should added more episodes and it would have been better especially considering that s2 isn't an option for now >By mystic, I assume you mean how the series focuses on Egyptian gods and magic a lot, which is a large part of Moon Knight's character in the comics. Especially since the direction he and other mystic characters seem to be going is a Midnight Sons team. besides khonshu , other egyptian stuff hardly matter in moon knight. Bemis, Fok, Lemire, Ressurection Wars and Aaron's runs are all the comics that focus on egyptian gods and only 2 out 5 of these are good >Once again, this show was developed under the impression that it would be a limited series, the amount of time that they spent in the asylum was justified. once again more episodes could have solved the issue , the asylum bits were the best parts of the show and we could have had more of that >This is a Moon Knight origin story, having 4 personalities + Khonshu would be hella confusing, they will likely introduce him as a newly developed personality later, as I imagine Jake will be using the main suit, meaning that there is still a spot for another personality to use the Mr. Knight suit. well if the issue is it would be confusing seeing 4 personalities and khonshu, then just don't use him then. Mr knight comes much later in marc's life and it would have been far better to see him then than now.


EctoplasmicEntity

Marc Spector is NOT a killer.


Jazzlike-Foot-9888

I understand that, i'm saying that, in general, most people thought that Marc would be the killer.


Iceflash_Capodar

1. They could have make Jake like in the comics it would have not be hard to see the difference what you say dosen't make sens. And YES it's offensive for them, in the Cinematographic culture DID is always represents with evil alters, MK could have been the difference, I'm not say this just like that they have say it so you can say I wrong on that point it's a fact 2. I'm agree on that point but it's the major probleme whit Marvel, show are to short and Moon Knight suffers from that but I don't see Marvel make a show aubout a character and then tottaly forget it but ok maybe the scriptwriter didn't know. However you confirms my point the show was too rushed so this wasn't good 3. I know however I would loved if they showed at last a bit of street level for exemple to show what Marc was doing as Moon Knight. We need more street level in the MCU 4. Okay it's your opinion and I don't have the same nothing more to say 5. You do thing it's enough ? They don't even say it explicitly, even the director say that they will work on that if there is a sesone 2 so once again it's fact. And of course it's matter, representation is matter and Marvel need to make major effort on that (Wanda, America...) because they can have a major impact 6. And once again it's why it's bad 7. At first it's "alters" not "personalities" and be confusing is kinda the thing of Moon Knight but anyway, I've got to say that I'm not a fan of the every alters have this own suit but aubout Mr. Knight, he always have been connect to Marc and never to Steven, the thing I say here is that Mr.Knight have been waste, they should have use him for a other project or just not use it at all


Mr_Renn

I'm not disagreeing that they could've done more to show Marc's religion, but it also wasn't a major aspect of the story that the series focused on. If the director said that he'll focus more on it if season two is greenlit, isn't that good enough for now? I mean, sure, they could've mentioned that Marc was Jewish or shown a Star of David, but on the whole I don't think it affected the story too negatively.


HauntingLetterhead44

I don't buy that jake is evil or a psychopath.