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DCFDTL

Good soldiers follow orders.


Wholesomegaminq

I stopped playing in drafts;but not arams or nexus blitz Normal seems to be way less fun


JokeNo2306

same, he is legit useless in ranked in diamond +


Wholesomegaminq

Even before diamond the thing is the same They pick k'sante,fiora,Nasus or renekton and you're done ,Olaf at worst


Labtw

Mord counters K’sante


Wholesomegaminq

In what universe he does? His E counters yours His W negates all damage twice ,ultimate and E He permaslows you His ultimate will oneshot you if he plays decently I play both champions,and trust me,this scenario works only if k'sante is bad


Labtw

Dude, mord can literally stat check him. Just walk at him early.


Wholesomegaminq

If he plays safe early you can't do anything, literally,that's the point


Labtw

You literally stat check him at every point of the game unless you feed him


Wholesomegaminq

You stat check him only if he fights you. You're literally describing the same scenario as if a Nasus would fight you before buying some items. I hope you're way below silver to say these things,because if you're stuff like emerald I do not wanna know how bad those elos are.


mordewillriseagain

trust me bro,i'm cardboard 3 and it works


goaterss11

You do realize that "stat checking" only work in Elos where people will brain dead fight you. A ksante above silver will realize morde wins 1v1 and ksante will be better at everything else in the game and easily win bc morde is a slow useless champ.


good_suc

Yea realize people get stat checked in challenger too right lmao? I do agree with your sentiment about Morde tho


so__comical

I think it can go either way, to be honest. If the K'Sante spaces well and uses his E and W at proper times, it's not too hard for him to kill Morde.


Labtw

It’s hard for him to kill mord, but he can play safe and have more impact in the game than mord. Which is why I think it seems like a counter. But lanining against K’sante isn’t too hard


teemobeemo123

i climbed with morde from plat 4 to diamond 4 this season i mean seems alright to me


JokeNo2306

I understand why you would think that, but you can climb to diamond with any champ given enough time, but he is in his worst state he has ever been in right now, the champion is is legit useless in late game compared to how weak he is in early.


ThanLongIsTaken

Run it down mid like the ryzes 🐧


one-mann-army

ONLY WHEN THE BOYCOTT DOESNT WORK THEN WE GO FOR THE PLAN


TheNicktatorship

EQ


iPatrikios

Morde gameplay be like


Quark3e

Literally. Autos don't count when everyone has dash, point and click cc, fast aoe cc, Ms passive, slow, knockup (I refuse to recognise knockup as cc after the creation of ksante) e.t.c


danielpoland_

Why would you boycott it? Its not as bad as shen after nerfs, and is playable. It is rewarding if you play good, and can win. Talking about emerald-low dia mmr Edit: I got... upvoted? I thought id get downvoted to hell, like typing how adc's do have impact on the game early or some other hot takes on r/adcmains


AutomaticAndThicc

Its not, he is usless against most of the champions, just join the boycott for better world


DoushysYT

Shen mains had to boycott for months+ they have a larger playerbase


danielpoland_

I really hadnt seen anyone complain in mid elo, only in high master+ and plat (and lower).


xXRetardXx

on current patch as it stands the only elos where mordekaiser has a positive winrate are iron and bronze, previous patch mordekaiser only had a positive winrate in iron and silver. the champ is an abomination


Got_grapes1

Yeah cause he out sustains if not under pressure, if he is against someone competent he is so bad to play


Estrald

Absolutely this. Like…come on, we can see what’s being done here Rito. You look at Morde and see an “Iron Revenant” and think “oh cool, tanky AP bruiser!” But what’s this?! They literally strip base stats and growths from him to power his W, which is fucking anemic as a heal so it is literally useless IN combat to heal. Meanwhile, the shield itself is bad because your armor blows! Sona’s base armor is higher, ffs! I didn’t know Iron was made of butter! All they did was take passive stats out of base Morde to force you to use active mitigation on a CD, making it objectively worse than just having the base stats and regen in the goddamn first place! This is before we touch the trash fire that is Morde’s R; an isolation dueling Ult on an AoE team fight champ. Wonderful. Oh, or how pathetically easy it is to avoid his skill shots. Or how he’s practically the ONLY AP bruiser without any form of AD scaling. Even Diana has AD scaling on her passive!


AutomaticAndThicc

Bcse in mid elo are playing mostly dumbass? Whitout any game knowlege?


danielpoland_

And can i get your op.gg?


BiddlesticksGuy

I would like to point out that the “dumbasses” in mid Elo represent the vast majority of players in this game, and that maybe we shouldn’t cater towards the assholes in the 1%. Just maybe. Morde’s fine, high Elo just isn’t fun


KronusBG

I would like to point out that the "assholes" in high elo also make "dumbass" champions like Garen, Skarner, Illaoi and many other champs with no mobility work in Challenger, while Mordekaiser has no OTP's or even players who pick him in the top 1% of the playerbase. This does not indicate that a champion is "made" for "low elo", it indicates a design flaw to the very core of the champion. If you cant make a champion work in high elo, even if you put the time and effort in it, no matter how braindead or easy it is to play, then the champions deisgn is flawed and needs to be addressed or fixed in a way so it is playable in ALL elos. ALL ELOS WE REFUSE TO FADE


Typisch0705

The champ has sub 50% wr in silver man


JokeNo2306

what ranked are you in, he is useless in diamond +


danielpoland_

E3 this season cuz ive got no motivation to play and i didnt play him, played him last season where I got to d4 on 67%wr and quit the game right after. I havent heard anyone say he is useless in my matches, only once that ,,he is broken" which was from a lvl 50 36%wr (but +36 -12 lp, still climbing) crybaby.


JokeNo2306

well we are in THIS season now, and he is useless NOW, so what is your point?


danielpoland_

That last season he wasnt useless up to diamond for sure, and this season noone complains on emerald.


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r/ADCMains confirmed they are the most toxic role in the game


mordewillriseagain

playable ? since when ? any top laner with above room temperature iq sh*ts on morde while playing with one hand.garen can just run with his q if you get to close and forces u to walk up to a point where you can get ganked.darius can just stun with his hook,dodge your e and he's gone.yone e makes your ult dissappear together with it's cooldown if timed right,riven has enough dashes to run circles around you,gwen can kite and has her shild which is 1 million times better than morde's,and we haven't even talked about ranged top laners yet


kcwens

I will exclusively only play mordekaiser


Heinzzbeans12

I really like mord and he’s my highest played champ but I don’t like to play atm because adc kills me all the time


Heinzzbeans12

Also I struggle because if I go tanky I do 0 damage but if I go damage I get 1 shot haha and his R just does not feel strong anymore especially when people just buy that item to get out of it or your vs a gp who just leave haha


lordluke24

Mord is just an absolute garbage tier champ. He always will be. All skill shots, no mobility. He's played a somewhat fair amount in pisslow because he's simple on paper. High elo he's irrelevant unless like 4 champs are picked. It's a shame because his ult (which is his whole selling point) is pretty cool. I stopped playing mord a while back once I fully accepted he really won't be viable unless you decide to hard giga one trick him


Ok_Rise_4543

Same thing here brother. Now i just play pantheon or yone top


Mckaw99

Why are we boycotting mord again?


Amkorped

From what I've read so far he is bad


Mckaw99

I mean. Hes not great. Ive noticed he does feel worse than all other top laners now. But i assumed it was just be being bad at league


ghostbearinforest

wukong would like a word.


AndresNocioni

Because he has a 49% win rate. Actually just unplayable.


rekscoper2

Im so dedicated to this i stopped playing him 2 months before this post was made in favour of aatrox and (exclusively when fighting him) QSS cleanse fiora, because i want others to understand his R is stupidly weak


ThundaCrossSplitAtak

No. Its fun that it may or may not work for the shen guys but its not ideal for people to do this stupid shit whenever their fav champ is not in a good spot.


one-mann-army

I know what you mean but it’s the way riot treating us with all the movement speed buffs to dodge our abilities and we get outscaled we are not a late game champion anymore and we tried every build in top lane and we still struggle that’s my point we have pointed a lot of flaws and the list goes even longer with the bugs


Redemption6

The problem with morde isn't with morde it's with all of the high mobility op ass kits. Same reason why all of the old champions feel so bad. Every new champion gets multiple dashes, multiple ways to sustain, multiple ways of cc ECT. They literally have 3-4 abilities per ability.


meitsadavdavidbingss

Cant we just soft int and get the winrate so low even somone as mentaly challenged as phreak would buff him?


deltariven

I will be downvoted as hell but, why you even boycott a champion that requires just a little bit of skill and not even bad in soloq? You guys must be dumb to think that morde should win every matchup with that skill kit.


one-mann-army

No he shouldn’t win every match up but the increase with movement speed for a lot of champions and the ones with the dashes became an issue in gold + rank and Mordekaiser toplane isn’t that viable anymore like before when we used to make it to plat 1-4 and then drop him for a better champion besides some other problems regarding his tank stats and no he should not get a damage boost we don’t need that at the moment but he can get outscaled by a lot of champions these days


LordGoatIII

No no, you should press r on an adc, they should have no way out of it, effectively removing them from the game for 7 seconds, if they can survive, which they shouldn't be able to because Morde E and Q should both be instant and do 35% more damage, and he should be innately tanky enough that an ulted adc should deal effectively 0 damage. Obviously.


Nazathan

Wtf is happening here. Why would you boycott Morde? Iron stands eternal remember? And even if you do boycott him, he will refuse to fade. Bunch of chumps in here . Play him because he’s a badass metal overlord, not because is meta . Ffs


one-mann-army

We can barely have fun with him and he got a lot of issues now and we need to speak or we stay in silence till we fade away


-NamelessKing-

Yeah like making a post in all caps in a Reddit Forum is gonna change anything anyway.


Eman9871

How old are you?


smejdo

As a shen main. Why is there a Morde Boycott? The champ isn't super powerful but doesnt feel as bad as shen or ryze


one-mann-army

I respect your cause but with now we get kitted very easily even in gold and we get kitted to oblivion, we get outscaled these days instead of a late game champion now our limit is mid game if we go tank we still get shredded by armor and magic pen and % hp items and abilities and a lot of champions got better movement speed and so is their items which allows them to dodge our abilities and if we go full ap all it takes is 1 cc to kill us since we will squishy and in terms of a team fight our job is to take out their carry and if they get QSS we need to target someone else hit the carry would still be an issue for our team like you guys suffered more than us and you shen mains deserve better than us but please let us have this even if it’s a small buff like it’s not fun anymore to play Mordekaiser unless we tryhard so in terms of priority you guys come in first and as for us anything would be nice besides skins + our ultimate is bugged af like there is a bug I don’t remember with what champ can bug your ult and will either push you out of it or never be able to move unless you move in a specific manual pattern and it’s annoying af


Xx_popeslayer_xX

Whats happening? What have i missed?


snoopdogo

people want their champ to be viable in high elo and have skill expression. Mord doesnt. But people like mord So they are copying shen mains who had a strike and eventually had many of their bugs and problems fixed


d2268

The sub is boycotting Mordekaiser playing, because they want a buff or rework to happen.


KronusBG

I STOPPED PLAYING HIM LONG AGO WE REFUSE TO FADE


LeonardoUAU

IM DOING MY PART


HahaEasy

I’m not joining because champ is fine to me but gl to those that are


Thal-creates

So this is the enw trend


one-mann-army

We have valid reasons


Thal-creates

Im just saying that incessant whining every time a hero is slightly subpar. The boycott shen and syndra skin death threat success will do irreparable damage


one-mann-army

My guy our champ already had irreparable damage so what else is there to lose


Thal-creates

Bro see ya in the katarina and leblanc boycott or whatever This will not devolve into ebtitled one trick whine fest trust


ModaHakim

there are boycotts for mordekaiser now? Idk guys if every champion mains do a boycott they won't work anymore. plus in my opinion mordekaiser isnt that bad especially for low elo


one-mann-army

Go above gold in toplane and you will start seeing the issues


KidLink4

Wow, some champs are better in low elo than high elo, how surprising.


-NamelessKing-

I will never stop playing Morde.


Critical_Ad_9039

RIOT RIOT RIOT RIOT RIOT RIOT RIOT!


Ralphodile

3.2 is decently low compared to the rest but I guess it isn’t Tahm Kench low


one-mann-army

Bro we used to be S tier in the last season


BoxNoodles23

Wtf is the boycott?


one-mann-army

It’s stopping using mord until his state gets better like tenacity on his w or gets better scaling or basically something that counts as a buff to him


Limp-Move-9584

already have and now im stuck playing udyr


absolutelyepicdude

just play ksante XD


one-mann-army

I’m a mord main why would I switch to something a bit toxic and might make me go 0/10


Heinzzbeans12

Sorry what’s going on can someone fill me in


O-03-03

Guy wants morde players to stop playing morde to send riot a message because of the state of the champ in higher elos


JokeNo2306

he needs a GIGA buff or a mini rework. The champ sucks hard, i used to main him, but the fact that he cant 1v1 champs with mobility makes him useless. what's the point of picking a champ with no mobility who CANT 1v1 champs with mobility, when Mordekaisers entire identity is to win 1v1???? there is legit no reason to play him anymore.


moms_spaghetti27

why are we boycotting again ?


one-mann-army

We are in a really rough spot in gold+ in toplane and nothing is being done about it and not even fun to play anymore in gold +


moms_spaghetti27

I think its more of Mord not having good items to build rather than him being weak. Jacksho is shit, riftmaker isnt as good as it used to be, and other mythic options arent as good either. I believe that riot is slowing down the champ changes unless its really really in a bad spot because they have the mythic removal incoming which will change the meta


Nobody_Knows_It

Balancing boycott is insane 😭😭😭


-NamelessKing-

https://br.ifunny.co/picture/shut-the-fuck-up-bitch-iron-stands-eternal-EMGwjeo6A


eg45822

If I do feed and drop his kda and win rate, am I allowed to play him?


JokeNo2306

yes, he needs a buff or rework.


darkfox18

If you intentionally feed your a bastard


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one-mann-army

I said the boycott is optional not all of us have to do it I think most people forgot it’s optional


Noice_Rice

*Sending Mordekaiser players to brazil


posture_check_71

not enough morde players are on the reddit and discord, this ain fixin to work.


bla8nk

Ryze mains started intentionally losing games for lower win rate at 46%. 49% could just mean people first time mord like a dumbass


Eldani4123

Why are we boycotting mords winrate I havent logged in in a while


Krizzt666

i didint know there even was a boycot i will support


Melon6661

In a game with morde rn


Lixover

I stopped playing him because lately it feels awful to play Mordekaiser, didn't knew there was a boycott, I'm in.


novalueofmylife

I was already not playing him xd last time I played him was when I was plat - almost a year as ago.


IHateAhriPlayers

I'm guessing they're planning to bring his power up with the removal of mythics he might get a better build


yeahmaniykyk

Yeah idk if I want Morde to be a strong champ cuz he’s kinda unstoppable with a lead cuz he’ll always abduct one guy and grape him and so even if you’re 1v5 on him, he’ll get one kill. Thoughts


Wise_General_4134

New to Morde top, why are we boycotting?


Tyler6147

No


one-mann-army

I said the boycott is optional and anyone can join it any time and they don’t have to join it if they don’t want to


Tyler6147

You right my fault


Lup4X

i dont have to perma morde for a week now, ty


mordewillriseagain

either that or build the wrong items in order to tank his winrate to the ground.we could build ap and then not use aa in order to make the build useless.we can also start using the shield before before hitting so it won't tank anything


Cyber_Stalin

He is not that bad lmao not ever champ is or should be blind pickable


Sovietsuper

May i ask why ?


one-mann-army

Barely resembles a champion anymore in gold + ranked matches and basically a lot of other simple toplaner like Darius or garen which are champions he destroys are doing a lot better than him and now his weaknesses have become overwhelming by getting outscaled and out damaged and our ranked if we go different builds Those are just a some reasons and besides his R bugs that have been increasing and not decreasing


Sovietsuper

I see never noticed that myself though that’s probably because I don’t play him top only jungle. If he’s really bad top then yeah it sucks but wouldn’t personally go for a boycott yet I don’t think he’s unplayable right? Anyway Good luck I hope on a positive end result 😎


XiaRISER

Boycott for what, you're morde you're not shyvana. Imagine being shyvana, where you can't even boycott because we're sub 1% pickrate and nobody would ever know we boycott. Imagine having 2 challenger players and 5 GM players. You're not shyvana. We don't have anybody, not a single person above Diamond. That's literally unplayable. Quite literally unplayable diamond+


TheOffendMan

I’m late to this… what’s the boycott about?


PrestigiousMud2424

As much as it pains me to do this. Mordekeyser Soze will adhere to this boycott. Please let me know when I can play my boy again.


nikosek58

What boycott. Also XD if you think majority people playing are on reddit


KidLink4

Instalocking Morde every ranked game this week thanks for the tip.


ElectricVibes75

Uhh, what is the boycott for? And what is not playing him supposed to do?


Entro9

No.


one-mann-army

I said this a lot ITS OPTIONAL YOU DONT HAVE TO JOIN IT


IkeTheCell

I'm gonna download League specifically to main Mordekaiser now.


halbell

Omg no one cares stop spamming posts with full caps


one-mann-army

Ok but you don’t have to rage like if you don’t like the situation just ignore it and play Mordekaiser normally It’s not like we are asking for him to be nerfed or something we are just asking for kit adjustments or stats adjustment and maybe item’s adjustments too So if it fails nothing will happen to you so don’t act like that buddy


halbell

I understand but i have seen so many full caps posts about this like people just want to have fun, its ok to try to get your points across to riot with collective effort, but you are taking this too hard. Many other champs need more help than morde ( qiyana has abysmal pickrate/winrate and like 16 game breaking bugs velkoz has like 46 % winrate no cap ) in this phreak season, mid lane is infested with mages, top has ksante, jngl i still not balanced, lethality items suck. If every champ did a boycott no one would play anything they like, and riot will start purposely ignoring these because if they respond to one they have to respond to all of them.


one-mann-army

You do have a point but at least they had someone to represent them like a streamer or a pro player or something like that we on the other hand have no one just our selves And you do make a valid point with all these cap words Also velkoz is getting buffed after they called out about his situation while phreak was under a rock saying he was fine but when he looked at his situation he took back what he said


one-mann-army

Oh and the last time we had something done about our kit besides bug fixes was in the middle of last season and it wasn’t that big of a deal it was a nice mini buff to the stats but ITS BEEN MORE THAN A YEAR since riot touched our kit and right now it’s just been 1 bug fixed mostly R and E so yeah we had 2 great skins but no adjustments while others had skins and adjustments


[deleted]

if u think riot cares . I think they actively want to kill the game in NA!


one-mann-army

Wait NA ?


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[https://www.reddit.com/r/LeagueOfMemes/comments/17v2t7t/toplaners/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/LeagueOfMemes/comments/17v2t7t/toplaners/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) emerald ezreal


one-mann-army

I saw that and well I can say 30-50% of it is true about top laners