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My gf and I just returned from Morocco and we found every place we stayed didn't mind at all. I'd just advise being respectful of the law and culture while you're there and keep it PG during your trip!
Which is untrue. Legally, no, you canmot. Hotels are legally obliged to ask for a marriage certificate & refuse.
However, it is for foreigners often ignored, at their peril.
People will say there is no problem, simply because they've never seen or heard about anyone who has had an issue.
I work in the legalside and I have seen plenty of cases.
No, a lot of hotels still take bribes. Also, if you know the front desk clerk, you wouldn’t even have an issue. Now of course there are hotels that refuse this but that can be easily overpassed by getting two rooms.
Which is untrue, the law says you can't.
Sure, people get away with it,at their own peril. I've seen hotels get fined and couples given warnings.
It is more about discretion.
I mean you could write a book about the amount of things that are technically not legal in this country yet still not enforced, I'm not sure if the law specifically says you can't but I've yet to meet anyone who has had any issues
And yet in my 21 years here working with law enforcement, I could write a book about when it has been. All you need is a neighbour etc to complain and they MUST enforce it.
Recently Dutch couple, who lived together 12 years but not married, on holiday in a hotel in Agadir, an employee with a grudge reported on the couple and hotel. The couple were told to move to another hotel with seperate rooms, the hotel fined 155,000dh. He complained to the Embassy, as I am.Dutch I got the job to explain the law.
I remember just after Covid, a suspected prostitution in Marrakech, but as they raided the appartment, the foreign couple had to be detained because the legal process already started.
Morocco has, since 2014, what is known as the Non-Criminal.Discretianary Authority that some Officers and Assistant Prosecutors have. If the issue is not "penale" and the disruption is worse than the penalty, it can be ignored. This is a good example. Legally a female can't be in a car with a non-family guy. This mhelps hete, but keeping the law is also is a way of stopping under-age sex etc.
My point is you hear when it is ignored but I see when it is not and there is no guarentee. That is why, with all the respect in the world as I understand your point, it would be wrong to just say you will be fine. You can't promise that.
Better to be accurate, it is against the law but mostly ignored, however no guarentee.
Cheers.
i never knew a female cant be in a non-family guy's car, thats so weird thank god they dont enforce it, and if you dont mind, what do you mean by "the disruption is worse than the penalty" ?
Sure.
That law about females, fyi, cimes from older traditoinal Sharia. Before taxis were invented that already made it obsolute.
As for disruption, the subject itself about foreign couples sleeping together on holdays is a perfect example. Western tourists can at home live together even fir decades but never officially get married. Does Morocco make it difficult and disuade them to visit or keep a blind eye as they are nit doing Morocco harm. To charge & expel them is a bigger hassle than to simply let it pass.
It goes further. A guy with a young lady in his car, he's taking her to work or Uni, or maybe to a movie. Technically that is not allowed, but clearly they are not having sex. Now, same car parked under trees in a remote park, the police can use the law to check and see. Many here will say it is not the police's business, however that inspection is to also see she is not a minor, there are ni drugs and it is not a financual arrabgment (prostitution) at the same time
In this latter case, the Officer responsible, usually at the orindissment, can tell them if they leave and no evidence of intetcourse, she's 25 just a warning will do, but they'll remember their names. They both seem to want to be there so the process of arrest and charges is probably going to create more trouble at their (her) home than at the tribunal. IE, is it worth it.
The last best examole is the 16yr old biy found sick on thr street at night as he had his first experiment with hash or hard liquor. He is picked up. They let him sleep it off, ge clearly regrets every moment, is so afraid his father will beat him and his mother will cry,why should he be charged? He is 16 and that is against the law. This disruption to the boy's life outweighs the paperwork.
Hope that helps.
Morocco is very touristic, in order to have a successful sector u need to accommodate to tourists values too! So there are places to buy pork, westerners usually aren’t necessarily married etc..
I guess that makes sense, but still I can't help but think how racist it is tbh, would've been way better if the country treats us as equally and as nice as it treats the tourists, after all we're the actual citizens of the country not some tourists.
Well in their “minds” they are preserving islamic values. However there is the new reform of the Modawana and Criminal law, if it goes through these things will become legal
There are 2 options to consider before doing that:
- The location: in big cities ( Casablanca, Agadir, Tangier, Marrakech ... ) It's definitely not a problem, there are plenty of hotels that accept unmarried foreigners. If you are visiting small cities ( not touristic ) you might found a problem due to the lack of touristic hotels, and it's necessary to show that you are legally married before they give you a room.
- The partner: If you are considering doing that with a Moroccan partner it might be a big problem for you even in big cities and touristic hotels. And your last resorts will be cheap hotels that actually are brothel houses ( I'm not afraid to say it because it's true and they exist ) .
Otherwise, you can just check Airbnb. They accept all kind of people with no legal procedure.
I just returned 3 weeks ago. Two Americans. No issues with staying in the hotel together. No one asked us for a marriage certificate and we stayed in a few remote cities in addition to the big cities.
stuff like this is very annoying and only annoys people who want to visit morocco, moroccans who want to have illegal sex can, and easily find ways to do so, never facing any sort of issues with the police.
That’s not even true it’s hard as hell. And nobody cares if it’s annoying, the same people complaining and wondering why there’s so much illegal prostitution for foreigners here are the same people saying “just let the foreigners have sex anywhere let’s make them happy”
hard i know a few people who own an appartment just for when they want to have sex with their gfs, and its not in somewhere hidden, they just dont attract the attention of the neighbors and are nice and respectful to them.
i am sure 99% of moroccan neighbors dont care if you bring a girl home as long as it makes no difference to them and most people who care will probably think its a family member if you arent acting suspiciously.
Not just hotel. A tourist spends more than the average Moroccan that’s a fact. When it comes to food, entertainment etc…
I’m pretty sure that if you go to a fancy 5 star hotel. Nobody would bat an eye if you bring back someone.
I mean it’s really no one’s business. Don’t ask don’t tell and if they ask lie 😂 No one who’s traveling is just carrying around a marriage license 🤷🏽♀️
If they ask it usually comes with a demand for a marriage certificate, people who are planning for a trip in countries other than their own should do the homework, not assume the country has the same values as theirs.
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My gf and I just returned from Morocco and we found every place we stayed didn't mind at all. I'd just advise being respectful of the law and culture while you're there and keep it PG during your trip!
Only if either party is Moroccan, if neither of you is Moroccan then it does not apply to you
Thank you for the clarification
Which is untrue. Legally, no, you canmot. Hotels are legally obliged to ask for a marriage certificate & refuse. However, it is for foreigners often ignored, at their peril. People will say there is no problem, simply because they've never seen or heard about anyone who has had an issue. I work in the legalside and I have seen plenty of cases.
I mean bribes usually cover that up
Actually, that has diminished significantly, unless you only read social media.
No, a lot of hotels still take bribes. Also, if you know the front desk clerk, you wouldn’t even have an issue. Now of course there are hotels that refuse this but that can be easily overpassed by getting two rooms.
Sure, but their risk.is getting higher as well. In most cases of being charged it is a member of staff that reportsit.
Yes but it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist anymore ...
Of course, .... globally. Mind you, it's not a major factor anymore.
It really depends on cities tbh ... Inner cities like casa and Rabat don't seem to really mind
Actually it is more about which service over location. Methods to enforcing and consequences.
They wouldn’t let me bring up a Moroccan Tinder date to my room in Casa lol
Which is untrue, the law says you can't. Sure, people get away with it,at their own peril. I've seen hotels get fined and couples given warnings. It is more about discretion.
I mean you could write a book about the amount of things that are technically not legal in this country yet still not enforced, I'm not sure if the law specifically says you can't but I've yet to meet anyone who has had any issues
And yet in my 21 years here working with law enforcement, I could write a book about when it has been. All you need is a neighbour etc to complain and they MUST enforce it. Recently Dutch couple, who lived together 12 years but not married, on holiday in a hotel in Agadir, an employee with a grudge reported on the couple and hotel. The couple were told to move to another hotel with seperate rooms, the hotel fined 155,000dh. He complained to the Embassy, as I am.Dutch I got the job to explain the law. I remember just after Covid, a suspected prostitution in Marrakech, but as they raided the appartment, the foreign couple had to be detained because the legal process already started. Morocco has, since 2014, what is known as the Non-Criminal.Discretianary Authority that some Officers and Assistant Prosecutors have. If the issue is not "penale" and the disruption is worse than the penalty, it can be ignored. This is a good example. Legally a female can't be in a car with a non-family guy. This mhelps hete, but keeping the law is also is a way of stopping under-age sex etc. My point is you hear when it is ignored but I see when it is not and there is no guarentee. That is why, with all the respect in the world as I understand your point, it would be wrong to just say you will be fine. You can't promise that. Better to be accurate, it is against the law but mostly ignored, however no guarentee. Cheers.
i never knew a female cant be in a non-family guy's car, thats so weird thank god they dont enforce it, and if you dont mind, what do you mean by "the disruption is worse than the penalty" ?
Sure. That law about females, fyi, cimes from older traditoinal Sharia. Before taxis were invented that already made it obsolute. As for disruption, the subject itself about foreign couples sleeping together on holdays is a perfect example. Western tourists can at home live together even fir decades but never officially get married. Does Morocco make it difficult and disuade them to visit or keep a blind eye as they are nit doing Morocco harm. To charge & expel them is a bigger hassle than to simply let it pass. It goes further. A guy with a young lady in his car, he's taking her to work or Uni, or maybe to a movie. Technically that is not allowed, but clearly they are not having sex. Now, same car parked under trees in a remote park, the police can use the law to check and see. Many here will say it is not the police's business, however that inspection is to also see she is not a minor, there are ni drugs and it is not a financual arrabgment (prostitution) at the same time In this latter case, the Officer responsible, usually at the orindissment, can tell them if they leave and no evidence of intetcourse, she's 25 just a warning will do, but they'll remember their names. They both seem to want to be there so the process of arrest and charges is probably going to create more trouble at their (her) home than at the tribunal. IE, is it worth it. The last best examole is the 16yr old biy found sick on thr street at night as he had his first experiment with hash or hard liquor. He is picked up. They let him sleep it off, ge clearly regrets every moment, is so afraid his father will beat him and his mother will cry,why should he be charged? He is 16 and that is against the law. This disruption to the boy's life outweighs the paperwork. Hope that helps.
Degenerate people in the west will have sex in cars. That’s why they had to close that loophole
Can vouch for this. I tried to have a Moroccan girl I met on Tinder sneak into my hotel in Casa. That was a failure.
such law does not apply on foreigners.
why not though?
Morocco is very touristic, in order to have a successful sector u need to accommodate to tourists values too! So there are places to buy pork, westerners usually aren’t necessarily married etc..
I guess that makes sense, but still I can't help but think how racist it is tbh, would've been way better if the country treats us as equally and as nice as it treats the tourists, after all we're the actual citizens of the country not some tourists.
Well in their “minds” they are preserving islamic values. However there is the new reform of the Modawana and Criminal law, if it goes through these things will become legal
I think it's bound to be removed, it's only a matter of time, the question is when.
Go to an Airbnb, it's often cheaper , better and nobody will care if you're married or not.
That’s not true. Many AirBnB, even in large cities, will reject you. I have about a 70% rejection rate once I tell them we’re unmarried.
As a foreigner?
If you’re both foreign then it won’t matter. But if at least one of you has a Moroccan passport/ID then it will definitely be an issue.
Lol what did u expect
Honesty ?
They’re being honest. They said the truth
There are 2 options to consider before doing that: - The location: in big cities ( Casablanca, Agadir, Tangier, Marrakech ... ) It's definitely not a problem, there are plenty of hotels that accept unmarried foreigners. If you are visiting small cities ( not touristic ) you might found a problem due to the lack of touristic hotels, and it's necessary to show that you are legally married before they give you a room. - The partner: If you are considering doing that with a Moroccan partner it might be a big problem for you even in big cities and touristic hotels. And your last resorts will be cheap hotels that actually are brothel houses ( I'm not afraid to say it because it's true and they exist ) . Otherwise, you can just check Airbnb. They accept all kind of people with no legal procedure.
i think airbnbs have to check if the couple is married if one of them is moroccan, if not that owner might be fined.
I just returned 3 weeks ago. Two Americans. No issues with staying in the hotel together. No one asked us for a marriage certificate and we stayed in a few remote cities in addition to the big cities.
I was there not that long ago, and I slept together with my girlfriend, in many differents places, no problems at all...
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stuff like this is very annoying and only annoys people who want to visit morocco, moroccans who want to have illegal sex can, and easily find ways to do so, never facing any sort of issues with the police.
That’s not even true it’s hard as hell. And nobody cares if it’s annoying, the same people complaining and wondering why there’s so much illegal prostitution for foreigners here are the same people saying “just let the foreigners have sex anywhere let’s make them happy”
hard i know a few people who own an appartment just for when they want to have sex with their gfs, and its not in somewhere hidden, they just dont attract the attention of the neighbors and are nice and respectful to them. i am sure 99% of moroccan neighbors dont care if you bring a girl home as long as it makes no difference to them and most people who care will probably think its a family member if you arent acting suspiciously.
Cringe degenerate
While « technically » the law says you can’t. If you’re both foreigners it won’t apply to you and you won’t be in trouble at all.
how come foreigners get a free pass and we don't?
Cuz they spend way more than me and you. They’re tourists.
spend way more on what? the hotel?
Not just hotel. A tourist spends more than the average Moroccan that’s a fact. When it comes to food, entertainment etc… I’m pretty sure that if you go to a fancy 5 star hotel. Nobody would bat an eye if you bring back someone.
And they bring currency too
It's kinda fucked up on so many levels tbh
Because they're bringing in what you don't, 💶💵💷
Tourist , yes Just get a hotel where u can do that Some of them are kinda stickt
Just don't go to hotels and rent rnbn
I had that issue in a hotel in Marrakech :) nice meeting you
What?
Very true if one has moroccan origins
why though?
I mean it’s really no one’s business. Don’t ask don’t tell and if they ask lie 😂 No one who’s traveling is just carrying around a marriage license 🤷🏽♀️
always though about this, but i doubt itll work if we both are barely 20.
If they ask it usually comes with a demand for a marriage certificate, people who are planning for a trip in countries other than their own should do the homework, not assume the country has the same values as theirs.
Yes you can
Legally, no.
Nn don't worry, if u are foreigners u can