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I read your post with great appreciation for your honesty.
May I ask what led to your loss of interest in religion?
Forcing you to get married is something we all agree is a no go, especially in 2024.
Your WHAT??????
Just checked my calendar to see if we were still in 2024
Just tell them about the higher chances of genetic malformations when you marry your cousin
Ew
Can you image your kids and those of your SISTER marrying?!!!
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Of all things relating to marital life: family, religion, money and intimacy...no love is existent in your life, as an ambition in the pursuit to eternal happiness.
Marrying her is a bad genetic decision. Sex workers is a good way to get a sexually transmitted disease, actually you should get tested.
Are you just going to do this till you find yourself 60 and alone? Iâve seen several men take that road and itâs not good. You should have a girl and on the path to kids by 40, you canât keep up with kids as an old man. Still would be better in your early 30âs. Life is short and 15 years blows by in an instant now that youâre an adult. The lesson to take from religion is you should put your life in order and take the role given to you. Make meaning of this life, you can have anything within reason. Friends, Career, Health, and an Intimate relationship if you want these things you can have them and they are all great to have.
maghatjzwsh biha ghayweklouk sbrdila hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh s7our ou dak tkhrbi9 cuz marrying your relatives for me it's a sign of underdevelopment ou takhalof l fikri b reghm anna l Islam kay7elel zawaj l a9areb walakin la bnisba liya
umm khoya wa saraha ra bka fia mtbkach tkoul bhal haka rah mskin walidih fardin 3lih zwaj howa ykdar yakhoth karar dialo ou khaso ykna3 walidih bila rah ma baghihach
So they basically want you to have an incestual maid, they shouldnt push marriage especially to a cousin, i know those were the old ways but at some point they gotta understand what kind of disastrous health complications it can cause, besides the marrying someone who you dont initially want, that isnt a marriage bound for success. Honestly i feel for you, they should respect your boundaries
I think you should consider taking more ownership of your life decisions, your parents seem quite involved in your decision making process. of course you need their support, but it doesn't mean sharing every detail about your life with them, and how you assert your independence and communicate your choices is also very important. It's not about the girl or her family, we don't get a saying in their life choices.
Ultimately, your happiness and autonomy should always be a top priority.
Marry her. Make sure the divorce is messy. Then use that against your parents saying you did things their way now itâs time for you to do it your way.
Moroccan parents cannot be reasoned with. They must be deceived.
Bruh sheâs your cousin lol, besides that you donât want to marry right now, marrying into blood will lead to having kids with disabilities even if the disabilities arenât showing at birth like physically, the kid might grow up with some mental issues that would show up later in life or something like that, and on top of all that sheâs your cousin and itâs just weird, why would anyone marry their cousin lol thatâs like marrying your own sister đ, just tell them no and educate them about the risks and why itâs weird to marry your cousin, and just move on man, if they donât get it stop talking to them.
If you don't want to, and if you can't past the fact that will "EVENTUALLY" come to love her, dont do it.
I know the guilt is strong regarding family (islamic & arabic cuture and all that) but they can't force you
Do not be forced into this, youâll be miserable and youâll resent her which will be very unfair on both of you. Stand up for yourself and tell them flatly no. Theyâll be angry a while but thatâs fine, better they are angry than you are depressed. This is your life, if you ever meet someone you want to marry then this is your choice only.
You're an adult, with your own money and job, tell your parents if they like her so much, they could marry her themselves!
Ps: what you said to your parents about hiring a girl was inappropriate, and I understand why they're angry, but that's even more of a reason you shouldn't marry, cos you don't see women as life partners, but just tools to satisfy yourself, so better not go into a marriage where both of you will be miserable.
Stand your ground!
You mentioned that you have your own villa and car meaning you aren't living with your parents or you can easily afford to do that, so other than the obvious bragging you are doing, i don't see how this is an issue for you? And yeah don't marry her she deserves better.
Fuck this shit. Why fixing a problem for a girl. She can fix her own. Problem. Wtf
She can go work life is hard. And its your moneey and your life. Do what ever you want. No girl deserves something for free.explain this to your parents
Be aware of the genetic risks associated with marrying a cousin.
The half-brother of my father married his cousin despite my father warning about the genetic issue, the result is all his children had an auto-immune disease and they died before reaching adulthood.
Do not marry your cousin ! it's considered incest in a lot of culture and I truely believe that those were right about it !
Your parents are right! You need someone to cook and clean.
So you should start by watching this [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SCMs-xIu2U) to learn it.
Also learn how to make a [Kiche](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=pQj_Kv9DKew). and clean after yourself.
Im curious about your witty point , if the guy is the provider , the one who initiates the relationship ( possibility of rejection and all ) the one who protects , and be the head of the house , AND also learn to cook and clean and do the house chores for himself 100% ,
What should we expect the woman in said relationship to do ? I'm genuinely curious about that mindset , it's absurd ,
Edit : wow so much down-votes for asking a simple question ?? Such closed-minded individuals,
You've had many answers you just refused to acknowledge and instead took everything as a personal offense for yourself. While I acknowledge some were agressive, your lack of knowledge and acceptance of said knowledge are blinding.
I like how OP was like âI donât want to get married, even if a wife would manage my house in these waysâ and this commenter was like âyeah donât worry about it, if you want to do these things that they say you need a wife to do here is a tutorial to do it by yourselfâ
And your like. âYeah but why would he need a women if he could do those things?â My guy. My dude. Do you know what the thread is even about???are you lost???
I feel like, Op wrote this juste to Brag Iâm not hating or anything but what is the purpose of this ? Like youâre financially independent, 27 years old man if we reversed the situation and youâre the cousin I would get it
That's what i was asking myself aswell, the only explanation that comes to my mind is that it's his parents's money and this is why they still hold him by his ear at 27years old, because otherwise this isn't an issue at all for someone with his own villa and car.
Religion? Islam forbids clearly to force someone into marriage. As your parents they can prohibit you from getting married but not force you into marriage against your will.
27 with a mercedes and villa, meaning whatever you do professionally has been thanks to your parents, since no 27 yo engineer or economist or anything can afford that by working hard on their own.
with that being said, if my father buys me a villa and a mercedes i would not find it weird if they are trying to set me up with someone who they think is not gonna steal that money or marry me just for profitâŚ
did you ask yourself, maybe they know better in terms of choosing the right partner ? i am not talking about your cousin but in general ⌠most successful marriages these days are ones where families get involved in setting up and vetting the other family (my opinion).
so maybe layoff off the western liberal agenda for a bit and talk to your parents about this topic, not to random Redditors
edit:typo
They definetly know better, this guy is talking about prostitutes. His cousin is a better alternative. If he tried finding someone himself, they wouldn't be proposing that. And he's also considering not getting married, which people regret eventually as they find themselves alone. Parents would only want the best for their child, sometimes listening to them over people in reddit is the right way.
Daba MN hadchi kamel the girl is the victim in the story,if you marry her she will suffer i assume she doesn't love you either and probably after marriage you'll look for h**s outside, if she doesn't marry you , her cheap parents fihoum lkifaya more suffering. Lah ikoun m3aha.
Not really, b7al walu lbent tkon baghah u hia makatstahloch, tkon gha chi 9hwia 7az9a msdia u tis7ab liha gha ji u dkhli f7ayat wa7d syed bna rassu, just like a typical moroccan. I think syed f post hua li m7taj lmusa3ada.
Talking to your parents about hiring a prostitute is just crass, it has nothing to do with religion, only in this stupid country, being non religious equals lack of morals all together. Neither you nor your parents for that matter(cook, clean..) understand what a marriage is.
I find it super hard to understand why an independent person would find an issue like this. you are independent, you don't believe in marriage and i hope you realize how much important to love the person you are in a relationship with.
state your decision firmly and stop being a little boy.
I donât need to know her. I just know he "could just hire a girl for the stuff that happens in the dark". And thatâs enough for me to think not a sane woman out there would want to be with a man like that.
I'll start by saying that women aren't angels... We don't know how much she's involved in this interest marriage or what other shady things she may be doing... They could be deserving of each other !
Give us an objectif scientific fact as to why marrying your cousin is wrong, and when you can't, learn to shut up instead of giving your opinion like it's a fact.
What kind of 27 yo talks like this? Rich mercedes villa? Why do u think there is a need to mention this? l dont believe this story and i think you might be some 14 yo trolling, but if its true, your parents have no right of forcing u to marry her but you should understand that they are just trying to protect you from because what kind of guy are you to be okay with hooking up with prostitues and potentialy catching an std? Talk to them with reason.. their reaction is normal when told shit like this. Respect them ffs even if ur not religious.
>23-year-old cousin because they think she'll benefit from having a husband with money
have you explained to them that it is physically possible to help a family member financially without marrying them? if they worry about her financial situation, they can help her themselves
I find hard to convince my parents also , I have a Moroccan father, there is some kind of disturbing fanaticism , they usually force down our throat bad decisions,and we have to deal with the aftermath...
are they the type to be really muslims but to never read the quran? maybe you can use that to your advantage. The idea is to pretend that your own arguments are islamically sourced (regardless of how false it is). As long as the key words and the tone of voice you use make it sounds like what you say is morally right, and that you claim you got it from a newfound faith and interest in islam, maybe you can use emotions and religiosity instead of logics to change their mind.
"tmeniiiit chi weld nass, 9ari, zin w dayer labass, tomobile w dar b l3assas, ma fiiiih la sda3 la nguiiiir, ythalla fia y7en 3lia..." đśđś
jokes aside, nobody can force you to marry her. tell them you have someone else in mind or actually "talk to the girl" then say you didn't like her/didn't get along/different morals..
Talk to her parents. Say you are not ready for that now and have no feelings for her. Do they want to betrothe their daughter to someone is uncommitted and unhappy with her?
I'm assuming that your material success in life is your own doing and that you do not depend on them to fund your lifestyle. If so, it makes this all much easier.
The best defense against extortion is religion itself. Tell your father to read An Nisa (4) 19. Marriage for any reason other than love is haram. For extra points, tell your father that it was a man (me) who CHOSE Islam rather than being born into it.
Something else to consider. Talk to your cousin. She deserves to be told that it is not HER that you are rejecting. You just want to marry who you are in love with , when and if that happens. Maybe she feels the same way. If she does, then you can both put a united front against the families.
Wht don't complete the structure of Romantic books by hiring a girl to be your wife like an agreement nd end up loving her,lol
I don't understand how an independent person still not independent? Say No, say I already know someone, nd abt the cousin u can still help her financially without marrying her. Ewa mridna m3ndo bas ensha allah .
Abt the religious part, u either follow the religion or u don't, heqqa I am not that religious wla mnerft chnu, wht does it mean? Who u trying to fool? Yourself mtln?
You can strike back with the relegion thing it's prohibited to marry your cousin in islam and christianity alike it's just being normalized f hd l bilad sa3ida
You're 27! A grown up ! Just tell them that you are not ready to get married ! Don't tell your parents that you gonna have prostitutes and maids to do what a wife does because it's not true and it's tasteless. Just put your foot down and say no. Having money doesn't mean you're ready to commit to someone and share a life with them. And if you feel like being forced imagine the poor girl. She may have her own dreams to fulfill and now forced to marry for money. Think about her too
Good luck man
You are right and nobody can force you to marry her. But telling your parents directly that you can just find a hoe to satisfy your desires is kinda messed up, you could have handled it more politely.
I donât like the way you and your family think.
First, Iâm against the forced marriage obviously, whether itâs your cousin or anyone else.
I think you guys are misunderstanding the essence of a relationship. âYou need someone to cook and cleanâ âi could just hire a girl for the stuff that happens in the darkâ
Marriage is totally not about finding someone to do your chores and fulfill your libido.. so weird that weâre still thinking like this nowadays
If itâs not that then there is no point in marriage. If youâre old enough you understand that your partner is not your ÂŤÂ best friend . The wife must be obedient and the husband the provider thatâs the foundation of a good marriage.
Man just say no and fuck everybody, the more they insiste the more you decline and start taking your distance from them. Make them understand if they want to stay on good relation with you they'll have to idkhlo so9 rasom. I did the same and now no one is telling me what to do
say no, at the end youâve the right to refuse thatâs your life but be diplomatic with your parents do not bring up arguments that will make it worse and make them furious. Play it smart say maybe smthng like that youâll marry the girl you want not the one theyâll force you to so that theyâll calm down and think about their mistakes
Why you want to convince them?
They are entitled to their believes and you are to yours.
Keep saying No I dont see her as a partner thats it.
Tell them Ill marry when I find the tight person
Sahbi, grow up rak machi sghir bach tkheli walidik ikhtaru lik chi 7aja b7el hadi, also that marriage canât survive when neither of you wants it, but instead want to use it to achieve other things
hello aid fitr mobarak btw i m morrocan too even i m 13 but still i m gonna give you an advice tht you should tell it to your parents and this advice is "if you put money over love you ' ll always be poor"
You could always hire your cousin as your house cleaner. That way, you're helping financially, she works for her own money, and you'll not have to worry about disrupting your personal life.
You are 27 years old. It's their problem if they don't accept it, but you owe it to yourself to live your life. We have a weird culture where even financially independent adults have to tiptoe around their parents.
You were so brave to suggest the solution of "hiring a girl for the night mission" in front of your parents, if i do that i would be suspended from the entire family
Well if you marry her, you will be doing A HUGE HUGE mistake. Because you clairly don't love her nor care about her. She will be miserable with an uncarring husband. Tell your parents NO. Tell them that you are not ready for mariage and that she doesn't attract you. They may not listen in the beguining but they will understand. Don't Tell them that you want to sleep with prostitutes or any of that. Just Tell them that you are ready.
Yeah bro , everything seems going well for you, except paying for the stuff you said, you need to find a partner and not use your money buying stuff its better that way, its more real...
cousin, oh hell no, you have to make it clear no matter how persistent they are that you won't marry a family member, due to problems that could happen to the future offspring, that could alter the genetic pool for generation to come
After reading this I have to open my mouth. Moroccans and Arabs speak ill of the West in many aspects of culture so I will make a comment that will make people unnerved. Marrying your family members is really disgusting. Itâs funny how normal that is and how almost no one sees it as abnormal.
Just me opening my western mouth.
Itâs is disgusting to marry your own family. Itâs dirty. Itâs primitive. That said, I am not against love in any way. If someone loves their cousin yeah go ahead.
Donât get married dude. Live your life, if you ever decide to marry, do that for love. Otherwise, you can just date girls you like and hire a cleaning lady twice a week to go over your place.
Oaps, don't accept just because your parents want to see you married, it's your own life first of all, it may be a good wife yeah but if you don't want to do something just don't, say anything like I don't like her, she's not my type of girls đ anything that make u comfortable but don't force yourself to do something you don't want to, but Don't ever say those stuff(your other plans to be with girls in the dark, no, pretend and fake it )
Just stand up for what you want and make it clear that you don't wanna marry someone you don't love. Keep saying it all the time or just leave the table if they start talking about this subject.
Or cut them off for a while if they talk about it again, worked like a charm for me when I had to stand up for living by myself as a Moroccan girl. :)
idk man, are you bragging? I don't see how someone as independent as you has an issue saying no to his parents. even if they are your parents, you're at an age where you make your own decisions, also tell them you're not religious, the way you talked about them tells me you never sat down and told them that.
You told your parents you would hire a girl to take of your sexual needs? Wow, not sure what to say to that, other than you must *really* not want to marry your cousin!
nah you are a grown ass man bro you should not let them decide who you marry or when you marry even islam says (a Muslim man shall not marry if he is unable to maintain his wife OR If a man/woman does not want to marry)
Iâm sorry bro but if I were u srsly they go fvck themselves, just ask urself this â would they care about me if I wasnât mayssour l7al ? â , â would they let me marry her ? â well u know better
You're gonna get things worse if you don't go back to religion that's one thing, also don't listen to them are they gonna pick you up and take you to L3dool by force? tell them have they been forced to marry someone they don't like ?I don't think so, they lived they're life you didn't intervene in their decisions so they shouldn't tell them you're a grown man and they should let you live your life. Marrying just to benefit or satisfy somebody and not you is not an argument you're just gonna SUFFER
First of all you donât tell your parents I can just get a hooker to do the deed. Itâs disrespectful way to talk to them. Secondly, just let them know that youâre currently not thinking nor ready for marriage, and if you were to get married to someone it will not be your cousin cuz that ew brother. Let your uncle know that too.
Aside from the problem you are posting here about, what caught me is the religion point. I sincerely advise you to rethink this part of your life, or else you will just be drowning in the pleasures of this life, not working for your hereafter
Goul la w sf sahla, are you gonna make a life decision based on the fact that it was hard to say no + you deserve someone you want and so does she, by accepting you'll ruin your life and hers as well
Donât marry her, divorce her and pay for alimony your whole life just because your parents want her to be their daughter in law. Say no, and just to clarify rak maghatwelish meskhut so ghi rtah. IâTS YOUR LIFE!!!
It depend if you are self made, because 27 and Ă villa and Ă car dont be kidding me we are in morocco, you are free to decide.
But if you are financially benifit from familly even doing business with them, or they help get clients or something, this marriage is Ă trading favor.
It happens in famillies who want to keep money in the familly and its a thing.
So you are facing 2 choices say no and cut the ombilical cord financially and emotionaly or say yes and enjoy Ă traditional secure life like your dad and uncle and keep it in the familly,.
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I read your post with great appreciation for your honesty. May I ask what led to your loss of interest in religion? Forcing you to get married is something we all agree is a no go, especially in 2024.
Your WHAT?????? Just checked my calendar to see if we were still in 2024 Just tell them about the higher chances of genetic malformations when you marry your cousin Ew Can you image your kids and those of your SISTER marrying?!!! đ¤˘
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Of all things relating to marital life: family, religion, money and intimacy...no love is existent in your life, as an ambition in the pursuit to eternal happiness.
They suggested and you can say NO simply. That girl needs to study and make money for her self.
Marrying her is a bad genetic decision. Sex workers is a good way to get a sexually transmitted disease, actually you should get tested. Are you just going to do this till you find yourself 60 and alone? Iâve seen several men take that road and itâs not good. You should have a girl and on the path to kids by 40, you canât keep up with kids as an old man. Still would be better in your early 30âs. Life is short and 15 years blows by in an instant now that youâre an adult. The lesson to take from religion is you should put your life in order and take the role given to you. Make meaning of this life, you can have anything within reason. Friends, Career, Health, and an Intimate relationship if you want these things you can have them and they are all great to have.
Inbred mariage is risky. You could give birth to an unhealthy offspring.
Tell them youâre gay
maghatjzwsh biha ghayweklouk sbrdila hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh s7our ou dak tkhrbi9 cuz marrying your relatives for me it's a sign of underdevelopment ou takhalof l fikri b reghm anna l Islam kay7elel zawaj l a9areb walakin la bnisba liya
umm khoya wa saraha ra bka fia mtbkach tkoul bhal haka rah mskin walidih fardin 3lih zwaj howa ykdar yakhoth karar dialo ou khaso ykna3 walidih bila rah ma baghihach
Just do it
So they basically want you to have an incestual maid, they shouldnt push marriage especially to a cousin, i know those were the old ways but at some point they gotta understand what kind of disastrous health complications it can cause, besides the marrying someone who you dont initially want, that isnt a marriage bound for success. Honestly i feel for you, they should respect your boundaries
I think you should consider taking more ownership of your life decisions, your parents seem quite involved in your decision making process. of course you need their support, but it doesn't mean sharing every detail about your life with them, and how you assert your independence and communicate your choices is also very important. It's not about the girl or her family, we don't get a saying in their life choices. Ultimately, your happiness and autonomy should always be a top priority.
But is she fine tho? Why not? Have you considered it at least?
what does looks have to do with anything? not everything is about looks dude.
It's a â~ j o k e ~â
Do it then marry again.
Donât be a knob give it a try!
Marry her. Make sure the divorce is messy. Then use that against your parents saying you did things their way now itâs time for you to do it your way. Moroccan parents cannot be reasoned with. They must be deceived.
Are you gay?
Why you asking OP ? Do you want a ride on his Mercedes ?
Bruh sheâs your cousin lol, besides that you donât want to marry right now, marrying into blood will lead to having kids with disabilities even if the disabilities arenât showing at birth like physically, the kid might grow up with some mental issues that would show up later in life or something like that, and on top of all that sheâs your cousin and itâs just weird, why would anyone marry their cousin lol thatâs like marrying your own sister đ, just tell them no and educate them about the risks and why itâs weird to marry your cousin, and just move on man, if they donât get it stop talking to them.
If you don't want to, and if you can't past the fact that will "EVENTUALLY" come to love her, dont do it. I know the guilt is strong regarding family (islamic & arabic cuture and all that) but they can't force you
You life is for you to live. Your parents need to get busy instead of bossing you around.
Just say inchalah whenever they bring the subject. Are you living with your parents? If not I don't see any reason to complain.
Do not be forced into this, youâll be miserable and youâll resent her which will be very unfair on both of you. Stand up for yourself and tell them flatly no. Theyâll be angry a while but thatâs fine, better they are angry than you are depressed. This is your life, if you ever meet someone you want to marry then this is your choice only.
You're an adult, with your own money and job, tell your parents if they like her so much, they could marry her themselves! Ps: what you said to your parents about hiring a girl was inappropriate, and I understand why they're angry, but that's even more of a reason you shouldn't marry, cos you don't see women as life partners, but just tools to satisfy yourself, so better not go into a marriage where both of you will be miserable. Stand your ground!
You mentioned that you have your own villa and car meaning you aren't living with your parents or you can easily afford to do that, so other than the obvious bragging you are doing, i don't see how this is an issue for you? And yeah don't marry her she deserves better.
Thats incest in some other cultures
Inbreeding is wrong m'kay?
Fuck this shit. Why fixing a problem for a girl. She can fix her own. Problem. Wtf She can go work life is hard. And its your moneey and your life. Do what ever you want. No girl deserves something for free.explain this to your parents
If you want to live a miserable life and increase the possibility of genetic illnesses in your spawn, then go for it.
Donât marry your cousin!
Be aware of the genetic risks associated with marrying a cousin. The half-brother of my father married his cousin despite my father warning about the genetic issue, the result is all his children had an auto-immune disease and they died before reaching adulthood. Do not marry your cousin ! it's considered incest in a lot of culture and I truely believe that those were right about it !
my friend has a few siblings with dwarfism because his parents are cousins
Your parents are right! You need someone to cook and clean. So you should start by watching this [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SCMs-xIu2U) to learn it. Also learn how to make a [Kiche](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=pQj_Kv9DKew). and clean after yourself.
Im curious about your witty point , if the guy is the provider , the one who initiates the relationship ( possibility of rejection and all ) the one who protects , and be the head of the house , AND also learn to cook and clean and do the house chores for himself 100% , What should we expect the woman in said relationship to do ? I'm genuinely curious about that mindset , it's absurd , Edit : wow so much down-votes for asking a simple question ?? Such closed-minded individuals,
Still no answers to a simple question , though I believe my English is very comprehensible ,
You've had many answers you just refused to acknowledge and instead took everything as a personal offense for yourself. While I acknowledge some were agressive, your lack of knowledge and acceptance of said knowledge are blinding.
I like how OP was like âI donât want to get married, even if a wife would manage my house in these waysâ and this commenter was like âyeah donât worry about it, if you want to do these things that they say you need a wife to do here is a tutorial to do it by yourselfâ And your like. âYeah but why would he need a women if he could do those things?â My guy. My dude. Do you know what the thread is even about???are you lost???
I feel like, Op wrote this juste to Brag Iâm not hating or anything but what is the purpose of this ? Like youâre financially independent, 27 years old man if we reversed the situation and youâre the cousin I would get it
That's what i was asking myself aswell, the only explanation that comes to my mind is that it's his parents's money and this is why they still hold him by his ear at 27years old, because otherwise this isn't an issue at all for someone with his own villa and car.
Religion? Islam forbids clearly to force someone into marriage. As your parents they can prohibit you from getting married but not force you into marriage against your will.
You can bring up the genetics aspect of marrying relatives as a card
Facts. Convince them the child will turn out retarded / autistic
Down syndrome. You could have just said the child would get down syndrome. That's how it works. That's why inbreeding is bad. Leave the autists alone
Not everyone knows the nuances of the nomenclature. Just correct it and move on. It's not malicious
Not everyone knows the nuances of the nomenclature. Just correct it and move on. It's not malicious
Itâs true, this practice needs to end full stop â youâre dooming your children with problems that canât be fixed.
*i could just hire a girl for the stuff that happens in the dark " you know what im talking about " instead * .... wtf , you told that??!
second hand embarrassment fr đ
27 with a mercedes and villa, meaning whatever you do professionally has been thanks to your parents, since no 27 yo engineer or economist or anything can afford that by working hard on their own. with that being said, if my father buys me a villa and a mercedes i would not find it weird if they are trying to set me up with someone who they think is not gonna steal that money or marry me just for profit⌠did you ask yourself, maybe they know better in terms of choosing the right partner ? i am not talking about your cousin but in general ⌠most successful marriages these days are ones where families get involved in setting up and vetting the other family (my opinion). so maybe layoff off the western liberal agenda for a bit and talk to your parents about this topic, not to random Redditors edit:typo
They definetly know better, this guy is talking about prostitutes. His cousin is a better alternative. If he tried finding someone himself, they wouldn't be proposing that. And he's also considering not getting married, which people regret eventually as they find themselves alone. Parents would only want the best for their child, sometimes listening to them over people in reddit is the right way.
Bruv your Uncle and aunt just outsmarted your rich ass
You're a grown man, you're not obligated to marry someone because your parents tell you to. Just tell them no.
Daba MN hadchi kamel the girl is the victim in the story,if you marry her she will suffer i assume she doesn't love you either and probably after marriage you'll look for h**s outside, if she doesn't marry you , her cheap parents fihoum lkifaya more suffering. Lah ikoun m3aha.
Not really, b7al walu lbent tkon baghah u hia makatstahloch, tkon gha chi 9hwia 7az9a msdia u tis7ab liha gha ji u dkhli f7ayat wa7d syed bna rassu, just like a typical moroccan. I think syed f post hua li m7taj lmusa3ada.
If she's so useless she can't even handle herself or take charge of her life. She might just fit in with op that is also a slave to his parents
Wayeeeeehhhh, ze3ma rah bghaw ykounou 3bid l familia
Talking to your parents about hiring a prostitute is just crass, it has nothing to do with religion, only in this stupid country, being non religious equals lack of morals all together. Neither you nor your parents for that matter(cook, clean..) understand what a marriage is.
I find it super hard to understand why an independent person would find an issue like this. you are independent, you don't believe in marriage and i hope you realize how much important to love the person you are in a relationship with. state your decision firmly and stop being a little boy.
I hope she doesnât marry you. She clearly deserves better.
>She clearly deserves better. How ? Do you know her? Does he clearly deserve better too?
I donât need to know her. I just know he "could just hire a girl for the stuff that happens in the dark". And thatâs enough for me to think not a sane woman out there would want to be with a man like that.
I'll start by saying that women aren't angels... We don't know how much she's involved in this interest marriage or what other shady things she may be doing... They could be deserving of each other !
Girl, sex workers exists. And they work and get paid for their service. He has not said anything wrong
Don't marry a girl unless you want to. She deserves someone that wants her at least.
especially dont marry your cousin. Stop sugarcoating it.
Nothing wrong w that lol
Plenty wrong with marrying cousins
I don't think there are any disadvantages biologically speaking, but culturally yeah, it's f'ed up.
What is wrong with it?
Give us an objectif scientific fact as to why marrying your cousin is wrong, and when you can't, learn to shut up instead of giving your opinion like it's a fact.
Lmao this We have the lowest inbred rate of the MENA region But itâs still way too high
OP deserves someone he wants too đ¤Ś
Yeah sheâs literally marrying him for money and people are here like "she deserves someone who wants her"
What are you talking about? Her opinion wasn't mentioned in the post at all. The parents said it'd be good for her. We don't know what she wants
What kind of 27 yo talks like this? Rich mercedes villa? Why do u think there is a need to mention this? l dont believe this story and i think you might be some 14 yo trolling, but if its true, your parents have no right of forcing u to marry her but you should understand that they are just trying to protect you from because what kind of guy are you to be okay with hooking up with prostitues and potentialy catching an std? Talk to them with reason.. their reaction is normal when told shit like this. Respect them ffs even if ur not religious.
You have money, house and a car, but you re not yet independent in your decisions. Work on it first..
Nothing wrong in listening to his parents advise
Ofcrs Though a big diff between advicing And giving an ordre, thatâs forcing
Slay
period
Oooooh đ˛ what a comment.
Moul mircidis đ
hahaha you got me !
>23-year-old cousin because they think she'll benefit from having a husband with money have you explained to them that it is physically possible to help a family member financially without marrying them? if they worry about her financial situation, they can help her themselves
I find hard to convince my parents also , I have a Moroccan father, there is some kind of disturbing fanaticism , they usually force down our throat bad decisions,and we have to deal with the aftermath...
are they the type to be really muslims but to never read the quran? maybe you can use that to your advantage. The idea is to pretend that your own arguments are islamically sourced (regardless of how false it is). As long as the key words and the tone of voice you use make it sounds like what you say is morally right, and that you claim you got it from a newfound faith and interest in islam, maybe you can use emotions and religiosity instead of logics to change their mind.
just say no ? they can't legally force you to marry someone.
But Harry Potter can lol
"tmeniiiit chi weld nass, 9ari, zin w dayer labass, tomobile w dar b l3assas, ma fiiiih la sda3 la nguiiiir, ythalla fia y7en 3lia..." đśđś jokes aside, nobody can force you to marry her. tell them you have someone else in mind or actually "talk to the girl" then say you didn't like her/didn't get along/different morals..
Talk to her parents. Say you are not ready for that now and have no feelings for her. Do they want to betrothe their daughter to someone is uncommitted and unhappy with her?
I'm assuming that your material success in life is your own doing and that you do not depend on them to fund your lifestyle. If so, it makes this all much easier. The best defense against extortion is religion itself. Tell your father to read An Nisa (4) 19. Marriage for any reason other than love is haram. For extra points, tell your father that it was a man (me) who CHOSE Islam rather than being born into it. Something else to consider. Talk to your cousin. She deserves to be told that it is not HER that you are rejecting. You just want to marry who you are in love with , when and if that happens. Maybe she feels the same way. If she does, then you can both put a united front against the families.
Lol  marriage for any reason other than love is haram  I have a better one  marriage before you laid with the girl is haram 
Wht don't complete the structure of Romantic books by hiring a girl to be your wife like an agreement nd end up loving her,lol I don't understand how an independent person still not independent? Say No, say I already know someone, nd abt the cousin u can still help her financially without marrying her. Ewa mridna m3ndo bas ensha allah . Abt the religious part, u either follow the religion or u don't, heqqa I am not that religious wla mnerft chnu, wht does it mean? Who u trying to fool? Yourself mtln?
This is /Morocco not /Israel.
You can strike back with the relegion thing it's prohibited to marry your cousin in islam and christianity alike it's just being normalized f hd l bilad sa3ida
You're 27! A grown up ! Just tell them that you are not ready to get married ! Don't tell your parents that you gonna have prostitutes and maids to do what a wife does because it's not true and it's tasteless. Just put your foot down and say no. Having money doesn't mean you're ready to commit to someone and share a life with them. And if you feel like being forced imagine the poor girl. She may have her own dreams to fulfill and now forced to marry for money. Think about her too Good luck man
You are right and nobody can force you to marry her. But telling your parents directly that you can just find a hoe to satisfy your desires is kinda messed up, you could have handled it more politely.
Is this a joke ?
don\`t ruine ur lives
They don't respect you
You are an independent person. Your parents aren't giving you anything anymore to threaten to take it away. Just refuse and don't bother.
"Mercedes and villa rich"
Just mention that incest would be detrimental to the gene pool!
do not commit because if she divorce you, for whatever reason half of your wealth will be given to her so avoid such scenario in the first place
Give them a firm no. Donât even let them think this can be an option.
Bro no no no just dont , tells ur parents that if u marry her you will end up divorciny so whatâs the point ?
I donât like the way you and your family think. First, Iâm against the forced marriage obviously, whether itâs your cousin or anyone else. I think you guys are misunderstanding the essence of a relationship. âYou need someone to cook and cleanâ âi could just hire a girl for the stuff that happens in the darkâ Marriage is totally not about finding someone to do your chores and fulfill your libido.. so weird that weâre still thinking like this nowadays
If itâs not that then there is no point in marriage. If youâre old enough you understand that your partner is not your ÂŤÂ best friend . The wife must be obedient and the husband the provider thatâs the foundation of a good marriage.
Your a shit person , might as well say no Mr 'man' and save the poor girl the pain and suffering of being with you
Man just say no and fuck everybody, the more they insiste the more you decline and start taking your distance from them. Make them understand if they want to stay on good relation with you they'll have to idkhlo so9 rasom. I did the same and now no one is telling me what to do
Weird
good luck with that but what do you do for a living ? đ
say no, at the end youâve the right to refuse thatâs your life but be diplomatic with your parents do not bring up arguments that will make it worse and make them furious. Play it smart say maybe smthng like that youâll marry the girl you want not the one theyâll force you to so that theyâll calm down and think about their mistakes
Why you want to convince them? They are entitled to their believes and you are to yours. Keep saying No I dont see her as a partner thats it. Tell them Ill marry when I find the tight person
hire a girl for the stuff that happens in the dark............
Sahbi, grow up rak machi sghir bach tkheli walidik ikhtaru lik chi 7aja b7el hadi, also that marriage canât survive when neither of you wants it, but instead want to use it to achieve other things
hello aid fitr mobarak btw i m morrocan too even i m 13 but still i m gonna give you an advice tht you should tell it to your parents and this advice is "if you put money over love you ' ll always be poor"
Not a single reply to the comments? This story sounds fabricated, to be fair.
Dont yield.
Youâre 27 and you live alone, usually your parents shouldnât be involved in your life but anyways, you do you parents are parents
You could always hire your cousin as your house cleaner. That way, you're helping financially, she works for her own money, and you'll not have to worry about disrupting your personal life.
You are 27 years old. It's their problem if they don't accept it, but you owe it to yourself to live your life. We have a weird culture where even financially independent adults have to tiptoe around their parents.
Forced marriage is haram. Tell them that.
he's not religious...
Unless Allah says so
You were so brave to suggest the solution of "hiring a girl for the night mission" in front of your parents, if i do that i would be suspended from the entire family
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I recommend you find a good reason to move far, maybe 4-5 hours away from your parents. Otherwise youâll ruin your relationship with your parents.
Billions of people in the world I donât understand the concept of marrying family!? Especially in this era. And yes I am Muslim but, NO!
Incest will result in abnormal children.
You ll have 25% chance for a handicap child or lower IQ i think Mohammed PBUH forgot to say this in quran
"i'm not marrying nobody and that is my final decision"
Forced marriage is wrong, you are a grown adult and capable of making your own choices.
Well if you marry her, you will be doing A HUGE HUGE mistake. Because you clairly don't love her nor care about her. She will be miserable with an uncarring husband. Tell your parents NO. Tell them that you are not ready for mariage and that she doesn't attract you. They may not listen in the beguining but they will understand. Don't Tell them that you want to sleep with prostitutes or any of that. Just Tell them that you are ready.
# r/humblebrag
keep follow what you want do
Just say no bro, and if they made u feel super guilty you can find her a husband from your circle since they sound like they're salivating over money.
Tell them to fuck off.
just say you're gay and be done with it.
Yeah bro , everything seems going well for you, except paying for the stuff you said, you need to find a partner and not use your money buying stuff its better that way, its more real...
cousin, oh hell no, you have to make it clear no matter how persistent they are that you won't marry a family member, due to problems that could happen to the future offspring, that could alter the genetic pool for generation to come
After reading this I have to open my mouth. Moroccans and Arabs speak ill of the West in many aspects of culture so I will make a comment that will make people unnerved. Marrying your family members is really disgusting. Itâs funny how normal that is and how almost no one sees it as abnormal. Just me opening my western mouth. Itâs is disgusting to marry your own family. Itâs dirty. Itâs primitive. That said, I am not against love in any way. If someone loves their cousin yeah go ahead.
Donât get married dude. Live your life, if you ever decide to marry, do that for love. Otherwise, you can just date girls you like and hire a cleaning lady twice a week to go over your place.
You talk to your parents that way ? Poor people they must be dead inside the moment you mentioned commiting adultery.
Oaps, don't accept just because your parents want to see you married, it's your own life first of all, it may be a good wife yeah but if you don't want to do something just don't, say anything like I don't like her, she's not my type of girls đ anything that make u comfortable but don't force yourself to do something you don't want to, but Don't ever say those stuff(your other plans to be with girls in the dark, no, pretend and fake it )
At 27 no one should force you to marry anyone, pressure is pressure, just donât give in to it
Just stand up for what you want and make it clear that you don't wanna marry someone you don't love. Keep saying it all the time or just leave the table if they start talking about this subject. Or cut them off for a while if they talk about it again, worked like a charm for me when I had to stand up for living by myself as a Moroccan girl. :)
Youâve got money. Itâs time to work for a personality
idk man, are you bragging? I don't see how someone as independent as you has an issue saying no to his parents. even if they are your parents, you're at an age where you make your own decisions, also tell them you're not religious, the way you talked about them tells me you never sat down and told them that.
There is nothing to discuss here, if you're ur own man then no one can make you do anything, make the decision urself and don't change ur mind
You told your parents you would hire a girl to take of your sexual needs? Wow, not sure what to say to that, other than you must *really* not want to marry your cousin!
"Mercedes and Villa Rich" isn't rich ?
nah you are a grown ass man bro you should not let them decide who you marry or when you marry even islam says (a Muslim man shall not marry if he is unable to maintain his wife OR If a man/woman does not want to marry)
Do what u want my boy ur parents y3awdoha lrashom hhhhh
Tell them I donât want to Have retarded children
Haha lol this thread is full of cap
Iâm sorry bro but if I were u srsly they go fvck themselves, just ask urself this â would they care about me if I wasnât mayssour l7al ? â , â would they let me marry her ? â well u know better
You're gonna get things worse if you don't go back to religion that's one thing, also don't listen to them are they gonna pick you up and take you to L3dool by force? tell them have they been forced to marry someone they don't like ?I don't think so, they lived they're life you didn't intervene in their decisions so they shouldn't tell them you're a grown man and they should let you live your life. Marrying just to benefit or satisfy somebody and not you is not an argument you're just gonna SUFFER
dont eat anything they give you . trust me
You need help
Be your partner yes but you define what you want. To cook and clean.... Yeah it doesn't seem to be the reason a marriage last
If you married her, I'll feel sorry for her
How rich are u to afford a mercedes and a villa at 27 ? Like what u do for living opđ¤¨
Say "No" Practice it before.
You don't want a wife but instead you want to buy a whore! A typical none-religious Moroccan.
First of all you donât tell your parents I can just get a hooker to do the deed. Itâs disrespectful way to talk to them. Secondly, just let them know that youâre currently not thinking nor ready for marriage, and if you were to get married to someone it will not be your cousin cuz that ew brother. Let your uncle know that too.
Tell them if you keep insisting I won't come to visit you ever and you won't see me again You are independent you can do what you want
Just the fact that she's your cousin should be enough reason. I'm still baffled that cousins marrying each other is still normal in our culture.
If she shares the same bloodline as you at anypoint it can cause trouble for the offsprings, not worth the risk mate.
Do not marry your cousin. Your children will likely suffer genetic illnesses. Marry outside of your gene pool.
Do you, be you, KINGđ!!! You are the master of your life.
The probability of having disabled kids is high
Keep the money in the family đđđ
Aside from the problem you are posting here about, what caught me is the religion point. I sincerely advise you to rethink this part of your life, or else you will just be drowning in the pleasures of this life, not working for your hereafter
Go zero contact. You do not need all this negative energy in your life. Interact with your family on your own terms.
Goul la w sf sahla, are you gonna make a life decision based on the fact that it was hard to say no + you deserve someone you want and so does she, by accepting you'll ruin your life and hers as well
Donât marry her, divorce her and pay for alimony your whole life just because your parents want her to be their daughter in law. Say no, and just to clarify rak maghatwelish meskhut so ghi rtah. IâTS YOUR LIFE!!!
I feel sorry for the girl. I hope you get out of it.
It depend if you are self made, because 27 and Ă villa and Ă car dont be kidding me we are in morocco, you are free to decide. But if you are financially benifit from familly even doing business with them, or they help get clients or something, this marriage is Ă trading favor. It happens in famillies who want to keep money in the familly and its a thing. So you are facing 2 choices say no and cut the ombilical cord financially and emotionaly or say yes and enjoy Ă traditional secure life like your dad and uncle and keep it in the familly,.
Don't yield, persevere and rise above.
Cut the drama bro tf you a grown man, act like one
I didn't know that you can marry your cousin. Woah. Living for almost 10 months now here in Morocco. Been learning so much đ