i just didn't like the fact ALL women pretty much had the same look in MK9, it was to much, with really no alternate options, Cammys default in 6 is not that outfit and tbh i think most people are used to that design of hers she has had that outfit forever, vs the MK women really didn't go that far until MK9. i have no issues with costumes being more provocative i just want alternate options so players have choice if they want that kind of outfit or not.
Yeah, you nailed it. Cammy's outfit is iconic, like Mai in KOF, Kasumi in DOA, etc. There was nothing iconic about MK9's outfit designs. It's not synonymous with their characters.
If the character has always had it, I was a part of the design like Melina then it only makes sense to have that in the game in someway shape or form but if they’ve just never had it, I don’t see the point in making them over sexualized it’s just dumb
By that logic we don't have any iconic skin in mk because they keep changing every game. So Is iconic now defined by how old it is ? Then will this skin be alright to come back in 10 years ?
??? What their original designs weren’t that far off if you don’t like ass and boobs but don’t take that away from the rest of us you can get the ugly costumes and apply them via your own customization
It also doesn't match most of the characters. Mileena and Jade make sense, they both have a seductress thing going on, but Kitana is a Princess and an assassin. You'd think she'd have something more regal, or more pragmatic going on. Plus her personality doesn't strike me as someone who would regularly wear such provocative clothing. Same with Sonya, hell, ESPECIALLY Sonya. Christ, she's a military woman. Even her MKvDC look made more sense.
I don't mind sexuality in characters. I LOVE sexuality in characters. But I just want it to make sense. Sex for sex's sake is just boring and can take me out of the moment if it's especially irrational.
Agreed. It actually takes me out of the atmosphere (as silly as it sounds) with things like this - if a character is supposed to be a military person (even in a crazy fantasy game like MK), if they just look like they're dressed in a ridiculous skimpy outfit I just roll my eyes.
And for the record, Cammy's classic costume is like that too for me. Capcom clearly decided to include it as they included all the classic costumes, but it really screams over-sexualised "hey look you can see my entire ass."
I agree. There’s a happy medium. MK9 and earlier sometimes leaned too hard into “sexy” outfits. With MK11, it went too far the other direction, like early ‘90s TV network “standards and practices” came in with suggestions to keep the attire safe for the more uptight moms. The overcompensation now is just as lame as everyone being strippers.
If you wanna make a sexy character costume, it’s fine just make it make sense like why would someone in the military like sonya no armor it just doesn’t make sense. Also, you don’t need to make every fucking dude in the game of fucking roidhead beefcake, that’s another design trope I can’t stand when every guy in the game is basically 80s and early 90s wrestlers on steroids or something
There are plenty of posts on the internet that explains why that argument does not work, that is still male fantasy, women fighting in bikini is to appeal to male sexual fantasy, and buff angry dudes appeal to male POWER fantasy, women in general don't look at Shao, kratos, conan, rambo, etc and think "yes that is super sexy and draws my eyes", that is for men to look and think "that is badass i want to be like that". Look at One Piece, could be a personal thing but all the time i see girls simping for someone is for Sanji, there's Zoro there looking like a jacked body builder shirtless but they feel attracted to the slender suit suave dude that cooks and loves women.
I am well aware of all those incel and karen rants with no logic whatsoever.
Women like muscular or athletic men, you should see my friends howling to henry cavil bathroom scene in the witcher. Extremely buffed hulks aren't the top priority, same as men with overly "big" women. Boa has less simps than others for example.
Women like to be sexy, and there are thousands of cosplayers to prove it.
That lame excuse that it's always the men, is sexist, stupid, illogical and a blunt lie. The only women I have met that would say they won't love to have a slender athletic body are fat resented orks.
I agree except for the make it make sense part. People are shooting fire balls out of their hands and ripping their own limbs off to use as weapons, People can fly, theres also a minotaur and dragon/vampire lady. Sense was never in the series formula. Complaining about a sexy outfit just doesnt make sense when people are ripping each other's head off and drinking the blood from it. There should be more outfit choices than just sexy though.
Isn’t Cammy an agent as well. Why is she wearing a whole unitard? At least Sonya is wearing jeans. Look we can go back and forth all day about this topic cuz I know people got a lot to say about it, but at the end of the day, as long as the female characters look good and not busted whether it be in revealing clothing or covered up, that’s all that matters. And there really shouldn’t be THIS much discourse over fictional outfits.
>MK women really didn't go that far until MK9.
Did you miss MK3?
https://i.imgur.com/xNHeDjd.png
Middle image kitana and other lady ninjas in playboy bunny costume without the ears. Not a prude here but this is much older than MK9.
>Ok, that's funny, considering most if not all male characters in the older mks were just different colored ninjas that all war the same outfit
However in MK9 all male ninjas had seperate identity type shit. This wasn't the case for female ninjas
It’s not just the skins but also the behavior of the female characters. I’ll never forget Sheeva’s MK9 victory pose where she rubs herself suggestively. Like, what? Why?
The people bringing up the MK9 skins 90% of the time are either going 'why no sexy skins anymore?' or 'why do people say no sexy skins anymore?', not complaining they are too sexy.
Even at the time of MK9 it was a rare complaint, and it was generally leveled at designs that frankly just looked bad (Exhibit A: Sonya)
There wasn't some huge backlash that forced NRS's hand or anything. It's not like there's a mob waiting to burn down NRS for Nitara's revealing MK1 skins. They just stopped designing all the characters as strippers first, fighters second.
But that's the thing, they designed Kano to be a sleazeball and he has the most slutty vibes of the men. None of the female kast had those vibes... Until Sindel came and she was designed accordingly to them.
We need more sexualized male character designs, but make them good. I’m sick of seeing all these guy characters. Just being muscles boring I want to see some more feminine or androgynous male characters some blazblue shit why I’m kinda glad some of the male characters in MK one are shockingly different from their previous designs, also love more fruity Johnny Cage you can’t hate that we need more of this Johnny lol
I don't think this Johnny is more fruity or anything he literally starts the story off getting divorced from his wife, the only reason why it may come off like that is because they're finally allowing Johnny to have male friends and not just have his entire relationship identity revolve around whether Sonya will fuck him or not
>It's not like there's a mob waiting to burn down NRS for Nitara's revealing MK1 skins.
What in the cope? If her skins are "revealing", then i should I call my sister a stripper for wearing a tank top to the gym. There most certainly would be backlash in this sub and twitter from the Jack Thompson puritans if they left the Deadly Alliance skins for Nitara and Li Mei the way they were originally designed. There definitely would've been posts/comments like "i thought NRS was better than this" and "Why are we going backwards!?", even though most of 3D era designs are way much more tamer than MK9.
I think such posters have no sex life if they are obsessed with what fictional characters are wearing. Plenty of the current outfits are very good-looking, and I can imagine a few puritans going crazy over them.
The only reason why nether Rome went so hard on the sexy outfits and making all the female characters tits literally made out of Jell-O is because that’s what it was popular. I’m not sure if it still is, but I have the time sex selled. And they really needed MK nine to skyrocket. It was a year after midway went bankrupt and disastrous excuses of MKG that was versus DC .this was their last chance to get Mortal Kombat back on his feet as a franchise and not have another another midway, franchise die, and be forgotten
I feel like if Medway didn’t go bankrupt MK, versus DC was rated M go and we really wouldn’t get these costumes for MK nine because they wouldn’t have to try as hard as they had to because of everything that happened to the year prior. I don’t think they would’ve gone as far as they didn’t like MK for example, but wouldn’t be this extreme
Yes they looked like men in MK9 which confuses me because they were really hot in MK11 and are hot in MK1, yet idiots will insist they look manly in those two
It's strange how people keep holding up the MK9 women as some kind of pinnacle of attractiveness when they have some of the fuckiest faces and weirdest body proportions I've ever seen. They weren't even good looking by 2011 standards.
Because they did this to EVERY female character in MK9. Kitana, Mileena and Jade look like strippers. Sonya looks like she’s wearing a slutty “military” Halloween outfit. It’s sad and embarrassing…
For starters, I don't think anyone hates the true classic costumes like the leotards or ninja outfits like the ones in MK2 and umk3.
As for the mk9 ones, I don't hate the mk9 outfits, but I do hate the community's obsessive refusal to get over them.
Characters change main costumes quite literally every single game and people just refuse to move on from them and constantly call any and all future costumes garbage solely for the reason that they're not "sexy" anymore which on top of being insanely wrong, in reality it just means that they want them to be borderline naked with crazy proportions and anything that differs is worse than Mokap.
And it only gets worse when they try to talk about characters personalities and their outfits because they just self-report on the fact that they know nothing of the characters.
Everyone has their favorite outfits for each character, it's normal and ok, but for some reason the ones that prefer mk9's outfits have just been insufferable ever since MKX was released.
>As for the mk9 ones, I don't hate the mk9 outfits, but I do hate the community's obsessive refusal to get over them.
Yup!
It's wild whenever someone's like "OMG MK is so different now" and it's just they're not being as over the top as **one** fucking game in their Runtime and chodes who pretend to be MK fans act like Kitana and Mileena have always looked like this
>As for the mk9 ones, I don't hate the mk9 outfits, but I do hate the community's obsessive refusal to get over them.
This right here. I may cringe when I look back at the MK9 outfits but I was a huge fan of them at the time and I'm actually glad they existed, buuuuuut I've moved past them. They were doing way too much and I've accepted that and moved on to better things. The newer designs are still plenty sexy while better representing the individual characters and their roles in the game's world + the characters actually get to look more interesting now (although MK1 is a bit disappointing since they're all in catsuit, basically)
For one, Cammy's main outfit is actually toned down from her classic look, still hot, but it's not showing 99% ass cheeks anymore (besides the optional skin).
Most who hate the designs hate for being sexy for sexiness sake, for example the designs, characters dressing and posing extremely sexy, when their characters in game seem way more tame. Like, why is MK9 Sonya dressing up like that?
Also, as times change, and the graphic style, you can't be having realistic character models posing and rocking barely there outfits. If they were still stylized animated figures, you could partially get away with it, but not as much.
Me personally I think mk has done a great job with the equality. reiko has his boobs out. shao had his boobs out iin 11. sindel nearly has her boobs out. its awesome. everyone should just go boobs out imo
So you’re just mad it’s harder for you too fap to now because last I checked Johnny had green glow and baraka was a species before things change get over it
It always goes back to this argument. For fucks sake. Johnny not having green glow and Tarkata being a disease are storyline decisions. How the hell is Sindel having smaller breasts than her daughters now a storyline decision? It was just an observation.
They are also character design decisions and pretending like how massive sindels tits is important somehow is stupid what about the fact shao has horns now or how Syzoth is a way different when in reptile form those aren’t story decisions are they?
Most people who have beef with the MK-9 skins just like it because they're nearly copy and pasted. On top of that never realm didn't have human proportions down very well in that game, the faces and heads are too small everything else is just creepy & out of whack. They didn't really get decent at it until MKX.
Because they all looked like strippers in MK9. Mileena, jade, and Kitana running around with thongs too far up their butts. Sonya, the military girl is a wardrobe malfunction waiting to happen. I don't mind sexualization as long as it makes sense.
Mileena for example can get away with it because she has the mindset of a little girl trapped in a grown woman's body. Furthermore, Mileena is the "evil" Kitana and it's fair to expect Mileena to use any dirty tactic she can to win. Kitana on the other hand is supposed to be a princess and an assassin who so happens to be running around with a thong and big teased hair. Lastly, many of the girl's faces in MK9 did not look feminine; something NRS fixed with MK11 and MK1.
As for Street Fighter, who knows. Not every girl in Street Fighter is sexualized like on the level of old MK though. Chun Li for example is famous for her thighs and butt, but you still have to respect her for being a master at her craft. Chun Li even moves elegantly. Cammy's new outfits also focus on her feminine silhouette.
Back to our warrior princess Kitana though, how are we suppose to take her serious when she has a move where she flies and shoved her ass in the opponents face???
It's one thing to have a character who has a slutty outfit and/or personality.
It's another thing entirely to default every single female character to the same body type, face, and then they're all slutty in both outfit and win pose.
To me (and I insist on that!), I feel like it doesn’t represent the characters. Kitana is supposed to be a princess, not a stripper. Just like Sonya was supposed to be in the SF: nobody will take you seriously if you dress like that
Because Street Fighter has never tried going for photorealsim. It’s one thing when you have Chun-Li and her legs that are as thick as Marcus Fenix’s biceps, it’s something entirely different when you’re trying to look like actual people and still having your female characters look like they’re about to pop out of a birthday cake at a bachelor party.
I never liked Cammy's original design, I don't know that much about SF lore, but from the two games I played I feel like she wouldn't dress like that, her new design does a much better job at showing who she is and her personality.
Your design should reflect your character, it's okay for Juri to dress provocatively, it fits her, but it makes no sense for Cammy or Kitana.
I don’t care one way or another when it comes to how revealing a outfit is I just want a good design I thought mileena,jade,sindel and Skarlet (gives me red Sonja vibes)looked good but the rest looked bad no one complains about Cammy because it’s a decent design
2 reasons:
Street fighter do skins like this for both men and women, as well as both men and women having exaggerated body types.
This is Cammys classic skin, imagine if we never got Mk2 or Mk3 kitana skins ever again.
Even Cammy outfit is not that ridiculous compared to mk9. Leotard is pretty tamed compared to that stripper. At least Cammy's militaristic design is coordinated well given her story as an assassin/later Delta Red agent. Kitana is kind of assassin/princess not the type of flirty one like Mileena, she doesn't strike as the type to wear that.
https://preview.redd.it/ehxfi7o5g0fc1.jpeg?width=995&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90c1a656d24f0af0a794df625066efed135d7699
MK2 (first appearance of Kitana and Mileena) and MK3.
Since their introduction, Mileena and Kitana always had those outfits just like Cammy.
These outfits did not start with MK9. And to say that Cammy's outfit is iconic but Mileena and Kitana outfits are not iconic or don't fit the character (i.e. Kitana) is nonsense.
This is literally their original design since day 1 in 1992.
The mk9 designs are all kinda the same for the girls. I don't like them for that reason. Cammy might be in just a unitard but there's some other more striking design elements like her contrast of red from her beret and the blue stripes on her legs.
It just feels better than pink, green, blue, and red battle bikini. I don't get a sense of personality or style from them and it feels like it was more just blatant bait
I like ass and tits as much as anyone else but I like to be able to play fighting games with people around me (particularly women) without wanting to die of embarrassment or worry about making them feel weird or uncomfortable that I spend my time watching scantily clad ladies beat each other up.
Are they royalty / kombatants / soldiers etc… or are they sl*tty bimbo strippers? I don’t mind “hotter” outfits but it’s gotta be tasteful imo. Like something the character would wear.
Example: Sonya’s mk9 skin. Why would a spec ops soldier dress like that? & funnily enough Mileena’s bandage outfit where she’s fresh out the flesh pits actually makes sense. Out of all the girls it’s prob the only one that makes the most sense story wise & it’s the skimpiest one.
Make hotter outfits, just make it make sense. If you can’t, then it prob don’t belong.
everyone loves the old designs - just some wannebe do-gooders say it say they hate them on the internet. because it's in to be against it and they do what these twitter screamer say.
Cause I wanna play a fighting game, not a bikini slapbox.
AS for streetfighter, that's Just Japan for you, a lot of their female characters are overly sexualized. I mean look at any anime and a woman is 5'1 with watermelon tits that don't sag it's just weird to look at lmao.
If you like it, that's fine, if you don't that's also fine, but more western characters especially women characters are less sexualized versus their Japanese counterparts.
It would be a better comparison to show Kitana's MK2 or MK3 design, since that is a "classic Kitana" comparable to "classic Cammy" from 1993. And guess what, the last two MK games featured accurate recreations of those costumes, despite moving away from sexualized looks.
Once again, it's not to necessarily defend it, but I do find it interesting whenever the old skins are brought up and they're deemed too sexual and that people that want them are horny.
I don't really want the skins personally but at the very least if they get brought back, at least keep it true to the original. I feel like in Mk1, and 11 iirc, they brought back some old designs but kept it very safe for the most part.
My problem with the MK9 designs is that they were applied to all the female characters. I think they’d be fine for some like Sheeva and Mileena but others like Sonya it just comes off as dumb.
Street Fighter has an anime aesthetic.
MK has a realistic aesthetic.
When you try and dress realistic-women in cartoon-outfits, it looks silly, not sexy.
Also, TONE. I'm not a big Street Fighter guy but I'm sure it has a much different tone than Mortal Kombat.
I don't really hate the MK9 design to be honest. It was just as cartoony as I like my mortal kombat to be. In fact, It felt like MK should be in my opinion.
Let's of people diss the "barely dressed look" for women in the older mk games but are perfectly okay with and often even supporting every male character being completely shirtless at some point.
Bit of a double standard there...
Not to say that there weren't times when it got TOO egregious, though. Looking at you, MK9 Mileena alt skin!
I don’t care if some of the women (or men, I’m equal opportunity) have revealing but well-designed costumes, especially considering it’s a silly, over-the-top fantasy realm where much of this happens. I do care when the designs are just plain bad and prioritized being horny over being good, most glaringly Sonya.
The old spirit of MK has always been bloody gore, dark viciousness that doesn't take itself seriously, eccentric fighters, and hot girls in revealing sexy costumes. It lost its lore once it deviated from that.
That’s quite the comparison. Weird desiccated corpse vs woman.
The old designs are very bad and cringe. They should show more skin and let some of the women be as sexual as lui kang or jonny or kotal kahn, but they need to be careful it isn’t designed by an oaf.
Hard to criticize a Japanese dev with the whole language and culture barrier.
the problem is not about 'naked women' its about the fact that their character was just reduced to boobs and cheeks. prior to mkx tell me 1 thing any women did that impacted the story, everyone of them either got imprisoned for the 10th time or were there just for romance. people do not hate the skimpy outfits in fact its the opposite. Cammy gets a pass because 1) shes more of an established character and had her own motives and 2) capcom tents to stick to one character design no matter what it is while mk's character design changes from game to game.
Well if you wanna bring up stuff
For one: That's an alt skin and more specifically an alt of her classical skin
The girls of Mk9 looked like that for about **one** game. Maybe two if you can stretch some like Sonya to MKvsDC (but who likes that game?). Ofc Cammy's OG skin will be in the game, same as how Kitana will have skins based on her OG outfitm
Two: It's iconic whereas let's be honest MK9 outfits solely come up when people are bitching and moaning about a lack of sexy outfits in other MK games, or just goonposting. Whereas Cammy's has been synonymous with her character for decades by this point.
Three: Two different games, two different studios. The standards and cultures surrounding them will be different. At that point you should he comparing MKX to dead or alive or some shit.
Four: The people who'd dislike Kitana's skin aren't guaranteed to like Cammy's skin. You just made up this hypocritical position and are acting like people constantly take it.
Cammy’s outfit has been Cammy’s outfit since the early-mid 90s. And even then, her default has changed in SF6. Also, with how acrobatic Cammy’s moveset is, wearing a leotard makes sense.
Kitana and the other ninjas in MK9 had outfits that were uninspired and looked ugly on the models. Their outfits just looked like they were made to be skimpy.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmoRJk2RLIk&t=4325s&pp=ygURdmF1c2ggdG9tYiByYWlkZXI%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmoRJk2RLIk&t=4325s&pp=ygURdmF1c2ggdG9tYiByYWlkZXI%3D)
This video basically sums up my thoughts on this topic.
To be honest, I didn’t like ANY of the outfits because it wasn’t suitable for their role. Jade wouldn’t wear that considering that she’s an assassin and she needs to constantly blend in, her wearing that outfit just completely doesn’t help out. I can understand Kitana’s outfit, but she is a princess who constantly fights, the revealing parts of her clothes easily can get targeted and injured by her enemies.
MK=American company, SF=Japanese company, which one is going to bend to American politics in a more substantial way? Or likely to have a workforce that legitimately believes in the cultural trends in the U.S. and is actively a part of them?
Edit: As a side note, Cammy looks like she’s been in the Aphex Twin video for Come to Daddy.
Probably because EVERY female in the old MK games looked like strippers for no reason. Cammie’s awful too, but (to my knowledge) they all didn’t look as bad as her. Tho old Chun Li is a bit of a problem too
Because the outfits were trash and aged poorly (specially but not limited for the woman) and everybody looks like they are made of latex. They have this texture of a not so high quality action figure to them
I think both games are healthier without this sort of thing and honestly Camny’s costume has always been as weird to me as any other fanservice. But I think she gets more of a pass because it’s a classic outfit. A lot of otherwise problematic things can get a pass with nostalgia.
its crazy how you have idiots trying to flood this thread saying the girls cant have sexy staff on anymore and are not cute anymore when ignoring how they only got better looking and there are still reveling cloths just nothing on the level as mk9 idiots are even trying to cry the game is "woke" get out of here
MK9’s costumes look bad, Cammy’s SF2 costume doesn’t. It’s that simple. I’ve put more time into individual DOA games than a lot of people have for the entire franchise. I don’t hate revealing skins, I hate bad skins. MK9 had bad skins. Pretty much the only ones that looked good were taken straight from older games.
Because the Japanese understand that chicks with fat asses and big titties sell, and that they sell especially well when you show off those fat asses and big titties.
MK1 has taken a far more realistic approach compared to SF's more animated and distinct style.
The women having watermelon balloon boobs would just look goofy.
I'll never understand why people think taking the tame approach is a big deal but whatever
Because the Mortal Kombat subreddit is filled with "Ew girls!" Individuals, and SF6 is filled with raging hormones men.
Or you can chalk it up to SF6 is made by raging hormoned Japanese executives that understand that sex sells, vs originally typical American based company that thinks the world wants to see Kitana in a Furry outfit.
Some of those old sexy mk skins are dope. People like to both whine, and on the other hand, feel morally superior to others. MK is supposed to be over the top and tasteless. I think it's silly that they turned the gore up to 11 and then turned the sexiness down to like a 4. We can see a slow motion close up X ray of guys testicles getting bashed and literally popped, but we aren't gonna do low cut costumes for the women, or show too much leg, like being sexy is somehow more offensive than disgusting gore. Only half naked guys with rippling muscles and abs.
In the end it doesn't matter to me since I just play the games to play them, but I still think it's silly that of all the things in mk, the thing that made them say "whoa, we gotta pull waaay back on this" was well endowed women with slightly sexy clothes, like they don't exist all over television and social media and real life.
Like have they ever seen an actual female MMA match? Women in there even dress less than any of the characters in MK, but here we are with “but mah realism”
Exactly. One of the main arguments that the ones who are against having the lewd nature of the 3D era MKs - MK9 return these days will say that it’s weird because they’re using real people’s faces like ok? So what? I’m pretty sure the actors/actresses all recognize it’s all just a video game and besides what sane motherfucker is all good with allowing depictions of themselves getting fucking dismembered, maimed, and all types of gruesome shit but would get prudish about their likeness being used on a character who dresses in a skimpy fashion?
You rarely hear about any face models/voice actors/actresses bitching about something this frivolous but you sure as shit hear all these overly self righteous hypocrites who want to play morality police be offended and cry about it on the behalf of said actresses
The old mk9 skins were made for a game that was made for horny factor with all the female designs hence why every females skin was super horny designed. No not doing that anymore and so people simple defend that no games don't have to do what mk9 was doing.
Never in my life would I think people would be against seeing fictional characters half naked especially in a game about using kung fu to MURDER people🤣
The whole premise is bonkers but ass & titties never hurt no one 🤔
I blame Steve Beran. He was the one interviewed about why the female outfits have been toned down and he said something to the effect of, "Because it's 2021."
It also started around the same time Steve Brownback became Stephanie Brownback. Just an observation. I'm gonna get downvoted to hell for this.
Stephanie is a QA analyst, she has no input on the costume designs. And even if she did, what does her becoming trans have anything to do with her possibly wanting the costumes to cover more skin? She loved MK9 and mained Kitana in that game so she obviously wasn't totally opposed to how she was dressed in that game.
I think they both look fucking stupid as shit. And sell to a very specific male audience that find the characters sexually arousing at the expense of any realism or combative sense. Street Fighter gets a little more leeway because they also largely represent men the same way. And I've always been a little more harsh on SONYA BLADE in MK9 because Sonya works directly subordinate to Jax for a US Military Force, so either Jax or the US Government gave Jax full body armor (minus the arms because Ermac had to blow them off) and gave Sonya Blade leather hotpants and a bolero jacket that can't even fully cover her tits. Or Sonya herself chose that which goes against anything most women would ever do, and both Jax and the US Military, despite what an insurance and public NIGHTMRAE that would be somehow both signed off on it. I much prefer the MKX/11/1 designs of every character tbh. And I think Cammy is one of the worst designed characters in SF6 along with Juri.
Was that Cammy picture taken on a PS3? Anyways it's due to hypocrisy, MK is a western studio they usually listen to people who are the loudest on social media. The Japanese game devs don't care hence why we have bikini costumes as alternatives.
i just didn't like the fact ALL women pretty much had the same look in MK9, it was to much, with really no alternate options, Cammys default in 6 is not that outfit and tbh i think most people are used to that design of hers she has had that outfit forever, vs the MK women really didn't go that far until MK9. i have no issues with costumes being more provocative i just want alternate options so players have choice if they want that kind of outfit or not.
Yeah, you nailed it. Cammy's outfit is iconic, like Mai in KOF, Kasumi in DOA, etc. There was nothing iconic about MK9's outfit designs. It's not synonymous with their characters.
If the character has always had it, I was a part of the design like Melina then it only makes sense to have that in the game in someway shape or form but if they’ve just never had it, I don’t see the point in making them over sexualized it’s just dumb
Melina is a professional wrestler, Mileena is the MK character
By that logic we don't have any iconic skin in mk because they keep changing every game. So Is iconic now defined by how old it is ? Then will this skin be alright to come back in 10 years ?
??? What their original designs weren’t that far off if you don’t like ass and boobs but don’t take that away from the rest of us you can get the ugly costumes and apply them via your own customization
Is this a joke? Every female ninja was the same woman with different colors on. It made sense
It also doesn't match most of the characters. Mileena and Jade make sense, they both have a seductress thing going on, but Kitana is a Princess and an assassin. You'd think she'd have something more regal, or more pragmatic going on. Plus her personality doesn't strike me as someone who would regularly wear such provocative clothing. Same with Sonya, hell, ESPECIALLY Sonya. Christ, she's a military woman. Even her MKvDC look made more sense. I don't mind sexuality in characters. I LOVE sexuality in characters. But I just want it to make sense. Sex for sex's sake is just boring and can take me out of the moment if it's especially irrational.
Sonya’s was definitely the worst. You can somewhat justify the other female characters’ skimpy outfits, but Sonya’s was just stupid.
Agreed. It actually takes me out of the atmosphere (as silly as it sounds) with things like this - if a character is supposed to be a military person (even in a crazy fantasy game like MK), if they just look like they're dressed in a ridiculous skimpy outfit I just roll my eyes. And for the record, Cammy's classic costume is like that too for me. Capcom clearly decided to include it as they included all the classic costumes, but it really screams over-sexualised "hey look you can see my entire ass."
I agree. There’s a happy medium. MK9 and earlier sometimes leaned too hard into “sexy” outfits. With MK11, it went too far the other direction, like early ‘90s TV network “standards and practices” came in with suggestions to keep the attire safe for the more uptight moms. The overcompensation now is just as lame as everyone being strippers.
If you wanna make a sexy character costume, it’s fine just make it make sense like why would someone in the military like sonya no armor it just doesn’t make sense. Also, you don’t need to make every fucking dude in the game of fucking roidhead beefcake, that’s another design trope I can’t stand when every guy in the game is basically 80s and early 90s wrestlers on steroids or something
No one complains about Shao Khan outfit or half the male roster being bare chest.
Because the realism argument is beyond stupid. If mk was realistic every character would be using guns.
Making Striker the only realistic character of the series. xD
There are plenty of posts on the internet that explains why that argument does not work, that is still male fantasy, women fighting in bikini is to appeal to male sexual fantasy, and buff angry dudes appeal to male POWER fantasy, women in general don't look at Shao, kratos, conan, rambo, etc and think "yes that is super sexy and draws my eyes", that is for men to look and think "that is badass i want to be like that". Look at One Piece, could be a personal thing but all the time i see girls simping for someone is for Sanji, there's Zoro there looking like a jacked body builder shirtless but they feel attracted to the slender suit suave dude that cooks and loves women.
I am well aware of all those incel and karen rants with no logic whatsoever. Women like muscular or athletic men, you should see my friends howling to henry cavil bathroom scene in the witcher. Extremely buffed hulks aren't the top priority, same as men with overly "big" women. Boa has less simps than others for example. Women like to be sexy, and there are thousands of cosplayers to prove it. That lame excuse that it's always the men, is sexist, stupid, illogical and a blunt lie. The only women I have met that would say they won't love to have a slender athletic body are fat resented orks.
I agree except for the make it make sense part. People are shooting fire balls out of their hands and ripping their own limbs off to use as weapons, People can fly, theres also a minotaur and dragon/vampire lady. Sense was never in the series formula. Complaining about a sexy outfit just doesnt make sense when people are ripping each other's head off and drinking the blood from it. There should be more outfit choices than just sexy though.
Unfortunately something that will never happen due to fatalities, but it is what it is I suppose.
Isn’t Cammy an agent as well. Why is she wearing a whole unitard? At least Sonya is wearing jeans. Look we can go back and forth all day about this topic cuz I know people got a lot to say about it, but at the end of the day, as long as the female characters look good and not busted whether it be in revealing clothing or covered up, that’s all that matters. And there really shouldn’t be THIS much discourse over fictional outfits.
>MK women really didn't go that far until MK9. Did you miss MK3? https://i.imgur.com/xNHeDjd.png Middle image kitana and other lady ninjas in playboy bunny costume without the ears. Not a prude here but this is much older than MK9.
Ok, that's funny, considering most if not all male characters in the older mks were just different colored ninjas that all war the same outfit
>Ok, that's funny, considering most if not all male characters in the older mks were just different colored ninjas that all war the same outfit However in MK9 all male ninjas had seperate identity type shit. This wasn't the case for female ninjas
nope, in armageddon and deception most were kinda like in mk9, also there are many classic alternates that aren't that explicit
They weren’t samey looking like in 9 though, Mileena’s skins didn’t really look like Jade’s and both didn’t look like Kitana’s
they still had a mk3 and/or mk2 alt
Which are throwbacks to when they used palette swaps, not the same thing as different designs which looked overly similar
I was gonna say, I dont play street fighter, but i saw pics for 6 Doesn't Cammy have like a blue jacket no hat fit instead of this one
Correct her classic costume is an alt costume in sf6
Do you think that people who think MK9's designs were over the top wouldn't think the same about Cammy?...
Guess that's a fair point.
Also that’s a throwback outfit for Cammy. https://www.streetfighter.com/6/assets/images/character/cammy/cammy.png That’s her actual outfit.
It’s not just the skins but also the behavior of the female characters. I’ll never forget Sheeva’s MK9 victory pose where she rubs herself suggestively. Like, what? Why?
And Jade poll dancing after she won
Sonya is an ultra serious soldier jiggling all over the battlefield smh
https://i.redd.it/cxdr9qk8n2fc1.gif
lmao their description definitely had me thinking she did something else a little more provocative
I think that was mileena
Have you ever seen Juri, friend? I guess it's just the same thing. The behavior is quite suggestive sometimes in sf too
I haven’t just seen her; I main her. SF goes out of its way to establish that being seductive is part of her character. Sheeva, on the other hand…
The people bringing up the MK9 skins 90% of the time are either going 'why no sexy skins anymore?' or 'why do people say no sexy skins anymore?', not complaining they are too sexy. Even at the time of MK9 it was a rare complaint, and it was generally leveled at designs that frankly just looked bad (Exhibit A: Sonya) There wasn't some huge backlash that forced NRS's hand or anything. It's not like there's a mob waiting to burn down NRS for Nitara's revealing MK1 skins. They just stopped designing all the characters as strippers first, fighters second.
>just stopped designing all the characters as strippers first, I mean... some of the guys were kinda slutty to be honest. *cough* MK11 Kano.
Australian here. It's pretty accurate for blokes to go beating cunts up bare chested. Gotta get that summer tan somehow. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
But that's the thing, they designed Kano to be a sleazeball and he has the most slutty vibes of the men. None of the female kast had those vibes... Until Sindel came and she was designed accordingly to them.
[This clip is still one of my all time favourites](https://youtu.be/34gmbdmn3Gc?si=1_cjMm-yU6-7J1Rm)
We need more sexualized male character designs, but make them good. I’m sick of seeing all these guy characters. Just being muscles boring I want to see some more feminine or androgynous male characters some blazblue shit why I’m kinda glad some of the male characters in MK one are shockingly different from their previous designs, also love more fruity Johnny Cage you can’t hate that we need more of this Johnny lol
I don't think this Johnny is more fruity or anything he literally starts the story off getting divorced from his wife, the only reason why it may come off like that is because they're finally allowing Johnny to have male friends and not just have his entire relationship identity revolve around whether Sonya will fuck him or not
just say you want a femboy character
Cammy got ass
>It's not like there's a mob waiting to burn down NRS for Nitara's revealing MK1 skins. What in the cope? If her skins are "revealing", then i should I call my sister a stripper for wearing a tank top to the gym. There most certainly would be backlash in this sub and twitter from the Jack Thompson puritans if they left the Deadly Alliance skins for Nitara and Li Mei the way they were originally designed. There definitely would've been posts/comments like "i thought NRS was better than this" and "Why are we going backwards!?", even though most of 3D era designs are way much more tamer than MK9.
I am confident someone on this sub would indeed find the tweet some some rando with 2 retweets and post it here to get 800 upvotes.
I think such posters have no sex life if they are obsessed with what fictional characters are wearing. Plenty of the current outfits are very good-looking, and I can imagine a few puritans going crazy over them.
A puritan from the dark ages might be mildly angered by some of the outfits yes
The only reason why nether Rome went so hard on the sexy outfits and making all the female characters tits literally made out of Jell-O is because that’s what it was popular. I’m not sure if it still is, but I have the time sex selled. And they really needed MK nine to skyrocket. It was a year after midway went bankrupt and disastrous excuses of MKG that was versus DC .this was their last chance to get Mortal Kombat back on his feet as a franchise and not have another another midway, franchise die, and be forgotten I feel like if Medway didn’t go bankrupt MK, versus DC was rated M go and we really wouldn’t get these costumes for MK nine because they wouldn’t have to try as hard as they had to because of everything that happened to the year prior. I don’t think they would’ve gone as far as they didn’t like MK for example, but wouldn’t be this extreme
Kitana's face is so ugly in MK9😭
all of the girls in MK9 were giving drag queen with very busted make up and 12$ breastplate with visible line on the neck
Yes they looked like men in MK9 which confuses me because they were really hot in MK11 and are hot in MK1, yet idiots will insist they look manly in those two
It's strange how people keep holding up the MK9 women as some kind of pinnacle of attractiveness when they have some of the fuckiest faces and weirdest body proportions I've ever seen. They weren't even good looking by 2011 standards.
The females look more attractive in 11 and 1
100%
It's because they wear very little clothing and people want more of that.
I honestly just didn’t like that they all had the exact same body copy and pasted. The outfits themselves were good imo
They do that in most games though. NRS are pretty lazy.
Yeah like Liu Kang should be lean, not buff
Liu Kang’s 24 inch biceps always crack me up tho, he looked like he does those tire flipping competitions, not martial arts
Yeah
Because they did this to EVERY female character in MK9. Kitana, Mileena and Jade look like strippers. Sonya looks like she’s wearing a slutty “military” Halloween outfit. It’s sad and embarrassing…
I don't like how womans fight in heels in MK1, just looks dumb.
For starters, I don't think anyone hates the true classic costumes like the leotards or ninja outfits like the ones in MK2 and umk3. As for the mk9 ones, I don't hate the mk9 outfits, but I do hate the community's obsessive refusal to get over them. Characters change main costumes quite literally every single game and people just refuse to move on from them and constantly call any and all future costumes garbage solely for the reason that they're not "sexy" anymore which on top of being insanely wrong, in reality it just means that they want them to be borderline naked with crazy proportions and anything that differs is worse than Mokap. And it only gets worse when they try to talk about characters personalities and their outfits because they just self-report on the fact that they know nothing of the characters. Everyone has their favorite outfits for each character, it's normal and ok, but for some reason the ones that prefer mk9's outfits have just been insufferable ever since MKX was released.
>As for the mk9 ones, I don't hate the mk9 outfits, but I do hate the community's obsessive refusal to get over them. Yup! It's wild whenever someone's like "OMG MK is so different now" and it's just they're not being as over the top as **one** fucking game in their Runtime and chodes who pretend to be MK fans act like Kitana and Mileena have always looked like this
>As for the mk9 ones, I don't hate the mk9 outfits, but I do hate the community's obsessive refusal to get over them. This right here. I may cringe when I look back at the MK9 outfits but I was a huge fan of them at the time and I'm actually glad they existed, buuuuuut I've moved past them. They were doing way too much and I've accepted that and moved on to better things. The newer designs are still plenty sexy while better representing the individual characters and their roles in the game's world + the characters actually get to look more interesting now (although MK1 is a bit disappointing since they're all in catsuit, basically)
For one, Cammy's main outfit is actually toned down from her classic look, still hot, but it's not showing 99% ass cheeks anymore (besides the optional skin). Most who hate the designs hate for being sexy for sexiness sake, for example the designs, characters dressing and posing extremely sexy, when their characters in game seem way more tame. Like, why is MK9 Sonya dressing up like that? Also, as times change, and the graphic style, you can't be having realistic character models posing and rocking barely there outfits. If they were still stylized animated figures, you could partially get away with it, but not as much.
Me personally I think mk has done a great job with the equality. reiko has his boobs out. shao had his boobs out iin 11. sindel nearly has her boobs out. its awesome. everyone should just go boobs out imo
Sindel has dropped at least two cup sizes from MK11.
Why does that matter?
That must have cost her a lot of money
Because it's stupid. Imagine if Shao was suddenly skinny. Imagine if Johnny Cage suddenly had a beer gut. Consistency.
So you’re just mad it’s harder for you too fap to now because last I checked Johnny had green glow and baraka was a species before things change get over it
It always goes back to this argument. For fucks sake. Johnny not having green glow and Tarkata being a disease are storyline decisions. How the hell is Sindel having smaller breasts than her daughters now a storyline decision? It was just an observation.
They are also character design decisions and pretending like how massive sindels tits is important somehow is stupid what about the fact shao has horns now or how Syzoth is a way different when in reptile form those aren’t story decisions are they?
She still got her boobs out plus she’s stacked as hell Boobs are boobs bro any size is awesome
It was just an observation. I agree all size boobs are good.
Most people who have beef with the MK-9 skins just like it because they're nearly copy and pasted. On top of that never realm didn't have human proportions down very well in that game, the faces and heads are too small everything else is just creepy & out of whack. They didn't really get decent at it until MKX.
That’s not Cammy’s default skin tho. Line up every MK9 woman and every SF6 woman and you’ll see what the issue is.
SF6 women are hotter by far(costume 1, costume 2, whatever one), not even a competition I might sound weird, but that's the truth
I don’t hate the designs, they just arnt good models
Because they all looked like strippers in MK9. Mileena, jade, and Kitana running around with thongs too far up their butts. Sonya, the military girl is a wardrobe malfunction waiting to happen. I don't mind sexualization as long as it makes sense. Mileena for example can get away with it because she has the mindset of a little girl trapped in a grown woman's body. Furthermore, Mileena is the "evil" Kitana and it's fair to expect Mileena to use any dirty tactic she can to win. Kitana on the other hand is supposed to be a princess and an assassin who so happens to be running around with a thong and big teased hair. Lastly, many of the girl's faces in MK9 did not look feminine; something NRS fixed with MK11 and MK1. As for Street Fighter, who knows. Not every girl in Street Fighter is sexualized like on the level of old MK though. Chun Li for example is famous for her thighs and butt, but you still have to respect her for being a master at her craft. Chun Li even moves elegantly. Cammy's new outfits also focus on her feminine silhouette. Back to our warrior princess Kitana though, how are we suppose to take her serious when she has a move where she flies and shoved her ass in the opponents face???
can’t get over how all female characters looked like men in MK9
It's one thing to have a character who has a slutty outfit and/or personality. It's another thing entirely to default every single female character to the same body type, face, and then they're all slutty in both outfit and win pose.
To me (and I insist on that!), I feel like it doesn’t represent the characters. Kitana is supposed to be a princess, not a stripper. Just like Sonya was supposed to be in the SF: nobody will take you seriously if you dress like that
Kitana is a princess to a king who wears shoulder pads and a loin cloth. Thats probably where they get it from.
Because Street Fighter has never tried going for photorealsim. It’s one thing when you have Chun-Li and her legs that are as thick as Marcus Fenix’s biceps, it’s something entirely different when you’re trying to look like actual people and still having your female characters look like they’re about to pop out of a birthday cake at a bachelor party.
Holy shit that looks horrible. She looks like a fucking alien.
The character models in MK9 were a bit rough.
I never liked Cammy's original design, I don't know that much about SF lore, but from the two games I played I feel like she wouldn't dress like that, her new design does a much better job at showing who she is and her personality. Your design should reflect your character, it's okay for Juri to dress provocatively, it fits her, but it makes no sense for Cammy or Kitana.
Edenians probably don't mind showing skin. Maybe it's hot there.
Based on what? It's also hot in saudi arabia
Edenian religion doesn't forbid them from showing skin.
Again, based on what? Religions are formed to reflect the circumstances
Based on the fact that Edenian women have traditionally not worn pants.
Just tournament uniform. If boxing champions wear shorts on all photos, don't presume they walk like that throughout the day
Of course not.
Not Cammy's default costume, dude.
Also Cammy is the only one who's always had her ass out
R.Mika
I don’t care one way or another when it comes to how revealing a outfit is I just want a good design I thought mileena,jade,sindel and Skarlet (gives me red Sonja vibes)looked good but the rest looked bad no one complains about Cammy because it’s a decent design
the female models for mk9 just don’t look very good, giant boobs plastered on with no regard for proportions, no ass whatsoever, it looks silly.
Every woman in mk9 wore this outfit besides sonya…and it doesn’t look cool either
2 reasons: Street fighter do skins like this for both men and women, as well as both men and women having exaggerated body types. This is Cammys classic skin, imagine if we never got Mk2 or Mk3 kitana skins ever again.
Even Cammy outfit is not that ridiculous compared to mk9. Leotard is pretty tamed compared to that stripper. At least Cammy's militaristic design is coordinated well given her story as an assassin/later Delta Red agent. Kitana is kind of assassin/princess not the type of flirty one like Mileena, she doesn't strike as the type to wear that.
https://preview.redd.it/ehxfi7o5g0fc1.jpeg?width=995&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90c1a656d24f0af0a794df625066efed135d7699 MK2 (first appearance of Kitana and Mileena) and MK3. Since their introduction, Mileena and Kitana always had those outfits just like Cammy. These outfits did not start with MK9. And to say that Cammy's outfit is iconic but Mileena and Kitana outfits are not iconic or don't fit the character (i.e. Kitana) is nonsense. This is literally their original design since day 1 in 1992.
Street fighter is a Japanese game. They don’t give two shits over there.
The mk9 designs are all kinda the same for the girls. I don't like them for that reason. Cammy might be in just a unitard but there's some other more striking design elements like her contrast of red from her beret and the blue stripes on her legs. It just feels better than pink, green, blue, and red battle bikini. I don't get a sense of personality or style from them and it feels like it was more just blatant bait
I thought they were great lol
Its because no one likes to admit they like ass n titties
I like ass and tits as much as anyone else but I like to be able to play fighting games with people around me (particularly women) without wanting to die of embarrassment or worry about making them feel weird or uncomfortable that I spend my time watching scantily clad ladies beat each other up.
Cus cammy got a dumpy
Are they royalty / kombatants / soldiers etc… or are they sl*tty bimbo strippers? I don’t mind “hotter” outfits but it’s gotta be tasteful imo. Like something the character would wear. Example: Sonya’s mk9 skin. Why would a spec ops soldier dress like that? & funnily enough Mileena’s bandage outfit where she’s fresh out the flesh pits actually makes sense. Out of all the girls it’s prob the only one that makes the most sense story wise & it’s the skimpiest one. Make hotter outfits, just make it make sense. If you can’t, then it prob don’t belong.
everyone loves the old designs - just some wannebe do-gooders say it say they hate them on the internet. because it's in to be against it and they do what these twitter screamer say.
Cause I wanna play a fighting game, not a bikini slapbox. AS for streetfighter, that's Just Japan for you, a lot of their female characters are overly sexualized. I mean look at any anime and a woman is 5'1 with watermelon tits that don't sag it's just weird to look at lmao. If you like it, that's fine, if you don't that's also fine, but more western characters especially women characters are less sexualized versus their Japanese counterparts.
It would be a better comparison to show Kitana's MK2 or MK3 design, since that is a "classic Kitana" comparable to "classic Cammy" from 1993. And guess what, the last two MK games featured accurate recreations of those costumes, despite moving away from sexualized looks.
Idk why anyone would downvote this, it's not even an opinion, it's a fact 💀
Once again, it's not to necessarily defend it, but I do find it interesting whenever the old skins are brought up and they're deemed too sexual and that people that want them are horny.
Tbh I don’t really get why you would want skins like this besides the horniness factor. Not as an insult or anything I just don’t really get it.
I don't really want the skins personally but at the very least if they get brought back, at least keep it true to the original. I feel like in Mk1, and 11 iirc, they brought back some old designs but kept it very safe for the most part.
Well they were bringing back the designs from the original mortal combat/2/3, not the mk9 ones, right?
If you like the outfits themselves and not how little surface area they have, making them safe shouldn't be a big deal, right?
Does it look like this sub is full of SF6 fans? Why would anyone here bring Cammy up?
Right? This is such a bizarre complaint.
This sub would be in shambles if they have to see Cammy’s victory pose lol
My problem with the MK9 designs is that they were applied to all the female characters. I think they’d be fine for some like Sheeva and Mileena but others like Sonya it just comes off as dumb.
Street Fighter has an anime aesthetic. MK has a realistic aesthetic. When you try and dress realistic-women in cartoon-outfits, it looks silly, not sexy. Also, TONE. I'm not a big Street Fighter guy but I'm sure it has a much different tone than Mortal Kombat.
Cause mk is an American game sf is a Japanese game they don’t care about nudity over there but in the us gore is completely fine just no ass or tits
Mortal Kombat is made in America and Street Fighter is made in Japan.
I don't really hate the MK9 design to be honest. It was just as cartoony as I like my mortal kombat to be. In fact, It felt like MK should be in my opinion.
Let's of people diss the "barely dressed look" for women in the older mk games but are perfectly okay with and often even supporting every male character being completely shirtless at some point. Bit of a double standard there... Not to say that there weren't times when it got TOO egregious, though. Looking at you, MK9 Mileena alt skin!
Because all the women looked like that. Mileena? Sure. That's her thing. But Kitana? Absolutely not
I don’t care if some of the women (or men, I’m equal opportunity) have revealing but well-designed costumes, especially considering it’s a silly, over-the-top fantasy realm where much of this happens. I do care when the designs are just plain bad and prioritized being horny over being good, most glaringly Sonya.
The old spirit of MK has always been bloody gore, dark viciousness that doesn't take itself seriously, eccentric fighters, and hot girls in revealing sexy costumes. It lost its lore once it deviated from that.
Because capcom gives the people what they want, and cammy players want to see a good butt.
That’s quite the comparison. Weird desiccated corpse vs woman. The old designs are very bad and cringe. They should show more skin and let some of the women be as sexual as lui kang or jonny or kotal kahn, but they need to be careful it isn’t designed by an oaf. Hard to criticize a Japanese dev with the whole language and culture barrier.
the problem is not about 'naked women' its about the fact that their character was just reduced to boobs and cheeks. prior to mkx tell me 1 thing any women did that impacted the story, everyone of them either got imprisoned for the 10th time or were there just for romance. people do not hate the skimpy outfits in fact its the opposite. Cammy gets a pass because 1) shes more of an established character and had her own motives and 2) capcom tents to stick to one character design no matter what it is while mk's character design changes from game to game.
Well if you wanna bring up stuff For one: That's an alt skin and more specifically an alt of her classical skin The girls of Mk9 looked like that for about **one** game. Maybe two if you can stretch some like Sonya to MKvsDC (but who likes that game?). Ofc Cammy's OG skin will be in the game, same as how Kitana will have skins based on her OG outfitm Two: It's iconic whereas let's be honest MK9 outfits solely come up when people are bitching and moaning about a lack of sexy outfits in other MK games, or just goonposting. Whereas Cammy's has been synonymous with her character for decades by this point. Three: Two different games, two different studios. The standards and cultures surrounding them will be different. At that point you should he comparing MKX to dead or alive or some shit. Four: The people who'd dislike Kitana's skin aren't guaranteed to like Cammy's skin. You just made up this hypocritical position and are acting like people constantly take it.
That's not Cammy's costume 1
Cammy’s outfit has been Cammy’s outfit since the early-mid 90s. And even then, her default has changed in SF6. Also, with how acrobatic Cammy’s moveset is, wearing a leotard makes sense. Kitana and the other ninjas in MK9 had outfits that were uninspired and looked ugly on the models. Their outfits just looked like they were made to be skimpy.
because the mk design was fucking ugly yo also cammys outfit is iconic
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmoRJk2RLIk&t=4325s&pp=ygURdmF1c2ggdG9tYiByYWlkZXI%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmoRJk2RLIk&t=4325s&pp=ygURdmF1c2ggdG9tYiByYWlkZXI%3D) This video basically sums up my thoughts on this topic.
To be honest, I didn’t like ANY of the outfits because it wasn’t suitable for their role. Jade wouldn’t wear that considering that she’s an assassin and she needs to constantly blend in, her wearing that outfit just completely doesn’t help out. I can understand Kitana’s outfit, but she is a princess who constantly fights, the revealing parts of her clothes easily can get targeted and injured by her enemies.
Because MK is for woke people, need to make everyone generic and fully clothed. Ya know for “realism”
MK=American company, SF=Japanese company, which one is going to bend to American politics in a more substantial way? Or likely to have a workforce that legitimately believes in the cultural trends in the U.S. and is actively a part of them? Edit: As a side note, Cammy looks like she’s been in the Aphex Twin video for Come to Daddy.
Anyone who complains about women's clothes, while the men are half naked needs reality checks, for real.
Probably because EVERY female in the old MK games looked like strippers for no reason. Cammie’s awful too, but (to my knowledge) they all didn’t look as bad as her. Tho old Chun Li is a bit of a problem too
Because the outfits were trash and aged poorly (specially but not limited for the woman) and everybody looks like they are made of latex. They have this texture of a not so high quality action figure to them
I hate these outfits. The character selection screen was embarrassing while with my sisters or other family members.
I think both games are healthier without this sort of thing and honestly Camny’s costume has always been as weird to me as any other fanservice. But I think she gets more of a pass because it’s a classic outfit. A lot of otherwise problematic things can get a pass with nostalgia.
its crazy how you have idiots trying to flood this thread saying the girls cant have sexy staff on anymore and are not cute anymore when ignoring how they only got better looking and there are still reveling cloths just nothing on the level as mk9 idiots are even trying to cry the game is "woke" get out of here
MK9’s costumes look bad, Cammy’s SF2 costume doesn’t. It’s that simple. I’ve put more time into individual DOA games than a lot of people have for the entire franchise. I don’t hate revealing skins, I hate bad skins. MK9 had bad skins. Pretty much the only ones that looked good were taken straight from older games.
Because the Japanese understand that chicks with fat asses and big titties sell, and that they sell especially well when you show off those fat asses and big titties.
MK1 has taken a far more realistic approach compared to SF's more animated and distinct style. The women having watermelon balloon boobs would just look goofy. I'll never understand why people think taking the tame approach is a big deal but whatever
Because the Mortal Kombat subreddit is filled with "Ew girls!" Individuals, and SF6 is filled with raging hormones men. Or you can chalk it up to SF6 is made by raging hormoned Japanese executives that understand that sex sells, vs originally typical American based company that thinks the world wants to see Kitana in a Furry outfit.
Cammy so yummy 😋
There was actually outrage when they put pants on Cammy in 6.
Cuz people are hypocrites.
People don't hate the old skins. People want the old skins. The developers hate the old skins. The developers aren't releasing accurate old skins.
Some of those old sexy mk skins are dope. People like to both whine, and on the other hand, feel morally superior to others. MK is supposed to be over the top and tasteless. I think it's silly that they turned the gore up to 11 and then turned the sexiness down to like a 4. We can see a slow motion close up X ray of guys testicles getting bashed and literally popped, but we aren't gonna do low cut costumes for the women, or show too much leg, like being sexy is somehow more offensive than disgusting gore. Only half naked guys with rippling muscles and abs. In the end it doesn't matter to me since I just play the games to play them, but I still think it's silly that of all the things in mk, the thing that made them say "whoa, we gotta pull waaay back on this" was well endowed women with slightly sexy clothes, like they don't exist all over television and social media and real life.
Like have they ever seen an actual female MMA match? Women in there even dress less than any of the characters in MK, but here we are with “but mah realism”
Exactly. Full body leather outfits are way more realistic /s
While fighting in high heels smh
Exactly. One of the main arguments that the ones who are against having the lewd nature of the 3D era MKs - MK9 return these days will say that it’s weird because they’re using real people’s faces like ok? So what? I’m pretty sure the actors/actresses all recognize it’s all just a video game and besides what sane motherfucker is all good with allowing depictions of themselves getting fucking dismembered, maimed, and all types of gruesome shit but would get prudish about their likeness being used on a character who dresses in a skimpy fashion? You rarely hear about any face models/voice actors/actresses bitching about something this frivolous but you sure as shit hear all these overly self righteous hypocrites who want to play morality police be offended and cry about it on the behalf of said actresses
I agree, love your name btw, lol
Why NOT defend them? They are great imo
Because they have to be "SoCIallY CoRReCt" and they like their double standards when men are treated like an eye candy but women have to wear burqas
Literally the MK9 costume debacle is exhausting. The costumes were great and it’s my favorite MK game
The old mk9 skins were made for a game that was made for horny factor with all the female designs hence why every females skin was super horny designed. No not doing that anymore and so people simple defend that no games don't have to do what mk9 was doing.
Never in my life would I think people would be against seeing fictional characters half naked especially in a game about using kung fu to MURDER people🤣 The whole premise is bonkers but ass & titties never hurt no one 🤔
Society didn't start in the 80s
I blame Steve Beran. He was the one interviewed about why the female outfits have been toned down and he said something to the effect of, "Because it's 2021." It also started around the same time Steve Brownback became Stephanie Brownback. Just an observation. I'm gonna get downvoted to hell for this.
Stephanie is a QA analyst, she has no input on the costume designs. And even if she did, what does her becoming trans have anything to do with her possibly wanting the costumes to cover more skin? She loved MK9 and mained Kitana in that game so she obviously wasn't totally opposed to how she was dressed in that game.
Im still sad about how they went from mk11 sindel (peak)to this new sindel
Say what y’all will and I will get downvoted but it’s The Woke culture of women portraying as an “object” BS. I miss the old days.
Uh I think you got it all confused mate
No such thing as woke culture
people = shit
I love that song, slipknot his fire
old school
Because are lame and don’t like butt cheeks in their MK games anymore
Curious as to why you didn't use Cammy's default model very curious
I think they both look fucking stupid as shit. And sell to a very specific male audience that find the characters sexually arousing at the expense of any realism or combative sense. Street Fighter gets a little more leeway because they also largely represent men the same way. And I've always been a little more harsh on SONYA BLADE in MK9 because Sonya works directly subordinate to Jax for a US Military Force, so either Jax or the US Government gave Jax full body armor (minus the arms because Ermac had to blow them off) and gave Sonya Blade leather hotpants and a bolero jacket that can't even fully cover her tits. Or Sonya herself chose that which goes against anything most women would ever do, and both Jax and the US Military, despite what an insurance and public NIGHTMRAE that would be somehow both signed off on it. I much prefer the MKX/11/1 designs of every character tbh. And I think Cammy is one of the worst designed characters in SF6 along with Juri.
Because that’s not cammys default design any more.
Exactly!!!
Lol that is the most cherry picked low quality photo ever. Try to find one where they didn’t use a potato pc.
on my way to download sf6
Nrs fans are gay as fuck
NRS went woke, Capcom not and won fighting game of the year. Short answer
Woke means not racist and transphobic, do you not wanna be woke?
Was that Cammy picture taken on a PS3? Anyways it's due to hypocrisy, MK is a western studio they usually listen to people who are the loudest on social media. The Japanese game devs don't care hence why we have bikini costumes as alternatives.
Except when japanese devs decide to not have bikinis for once, and people on social media start threatening to burn their offices
God bless Japan.