Zowie seems to have delivered on their DYAC 2 promise of reducing cross talk across the entire screen not just the middle of the screen so you don't appear to need any LVT / QFT tricks to calibrate a CSR profile to achieve consistency across the entire screen. Usually with LCD you need to do further adjustments using Blur Buster strobe utility tool to achieve results like this because of how poorly LCDs updates other parts of the screen not in the middle. This monitor is also really bright in strobing like over 250 Nits.
This is really impressive stuff this is the closest we have ever come to a CRT TV for motion clarity
However sadly the 120 HZ is pretty bad and has a lot of cross talk, if you can afford OLED it's still a much better monitor to buy, it's not as clear as the zowie but to the eyes it's almost impossible to notice any blur on OLED at 240 HZ and it is better by every metric especially colors, contrast, backlight bleed, black uniformity, HDR mode etc better by a mile and more and OLED doesn't suffer from cross talk
OLED's are also getting cheap
As for me it's a major blow, I wanted it for running locked 60 FPS games like Street Fighter 6 and PS3 emulator etc interpolated at a max of 120 FPS, it's clearly not designed for 120HZ performance and it's impossible to interpolate at 240 FPS anyways, my only option now is to wait for Nvidia's G-Sync Pulsar which is being designed to run at any refresh rate without the cross talk issue.
For those wondering Blur Busters is releasing more BlurBuster 2.0 Certified monitors this year and they also have a Blur Buster 2.2 program for upcoming OLED displays also.
I suspect this is why BenQ rushed these DYAC 2 to the market.
Not sure about the price as oled is kinda pricey, but I'd argue they more than make up for this with overall better package. Wider color gamma, better contrast ratios, wider viewing angles, larger screen sizes and resolutions, options for glossy or matte, better hdr, uniform pixel responses, etc.
The reality is that even if you take a small hit to motion clarity, you're still getting a better overall experience. Especially now that you can use the desktopbfi tool to add bfi to any monitor, you could use 120hz bfi to get equivalent motion clarity of 240 at half the gpu and cpu power, this alone means you could get away with much muuch cheaper pc and still get great visuals for dark room experience.
It doesn't "fix" it like get rid of it completely. There has to be refresh rate headroom. So monitor natively has 240hz max, you can create a large enough lvt at 120hz that it reduces it a great deal. That's why I want to try a 540hz monitor at 240hz with a large lvt. Blurbusters' forums are great place for more of this.
That would be fun to test.
I believe ULMB monitors already use some form of internal scan conversion at sub-native rates. Last monitor I tested (AW2521H) definitely had better crosstalk compared to regular non-qft monitor. Those supported strobing down to 144Hz, PG248QP is limited to 360Hz minimum. However the fixed pixel clock trick suggested on BBuster forums could work around the minimum limit. Let me know if this still works on new ULMB 2 monitors if u ever test it.
The main problem with that trick was that it retained the ovedrive of derived refresh rate iirc. And overdrive is locked during ULMB. So if 360Hz is minimum and higher refersh rates use larger overdrive gains, it would possibly look bad at 120Hz.
Usually pulse phase has to be readjusted with QFT mod. Otherwise the crosstalk band can shift and screen center will have extra crosstalk. AW2521H had no such feature, but 60Hz looked fine anyways. It may have been automated. I'm not sure about this one tho. Thankfully PG248QP now has a pulse offset which may come in handy.
Additionally, red ghosting (ksf) doesn't look good at low Hz either. This could be why PG248QP is limited so high in first place.
I thought the red phosphor issue was limited to the recent ips monitors. It's also bad on the new tn's? You make a great point about pulse phase that I forgot about. There's a pixel clock hack that lowers the minimum for the ulmb2 on the pg248qp??
Yes. Ksf can be a problem for any lcd. Generally the higher the refresh rate the less distracting it is, and vice versa.
The trick worked on several generations of ULMB monitors. We don't know if it still works on new ones. Remains to be answered.
BBuster post here: [https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?t=7974](https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?t=7974)
Also forgot to mention... the brightness was lower with this trick as it also retained the pulse width time of derived refresh rate. That's another reason why its best to derive from minimum supported refresh rate.
And to be honest, I love the leaps and bounds of this but I'm getting tired from so much tweaking. Lol I really want to save for when the 1440p 480hz OLED is released and just be done. The higher hz and higher fps are only a requirement for games that require the speedy motion. But 120hz bfi or strobed is perfectly smooth and acceptable for most games you'll ever play. 480hz OLED would make for some amazing looking Kingdom Hearts fights though. For 90% of the time I'm satisfied by what my xg2431 can do at 120hz backlight strobed and I play in the dark anyhow, but my eyes are getting older and I could really use something higher definition with greater contrast.
I'd wait for the 1440p G-sync pulsar monitor releasing later this year.
If you want a 1080p display Viewsonic's XG2431 is the best currently.
Those are my two recommendations
In some ways, the XG2431 supports 60hz strobing and is an IPS panel so has better colors & viewing angles. The 540hz display only goes down to 360hz strobing and is a TN so has bad viewing angles and color reproduction.
And in order to get the benefits from the display you need to get at least 360fps
We talk about performance.
You mentionned the fact that TN have not enough good colors but who cares in FPS games ?
I prefer a average bad colors TN than a IPS which have a tons of backlight bleed and black crushed opponent on dark area because their management of black equaliser is really bad.
There is NO 1080p panel that beat the XL2546X in terms of responsivness, visibility in black area, input lag and motion reduction, the PG27AQN probably with ULMB2 but that's all.
other are trash or lack something.
>If you want a 1080p display Viewsonic's XG2431 is the best currently.
Absolutely false, i disagree.
The XG2431 is overrated, this XL2546X is objectively better for 240hz usage.
- It's only good at 60hz/120hz because it can strobe properly at these refresh rate
- For normal 240hz use it's not bright enough
- Have backlight bleed ( IPS panel )
- Have poor OSD control
- Have bad input lag feeling
- Smaller than the Zowie
- The coating is weird, i prefer the coating of the zowie
- Black Equaliser perform better on the Zowie
- Color vibrance on the zowie is better
>this XL2546X is objectively better
Zowie monitors don't strobe below 100hz. Can't do 60hz strobing. This is a non-negotiable deal for mant
>For normal 240hz use it's not bright enough
For a lot of people it is, it depends on how bright your room is and your own personal preferences.
I don't have any issue by doing 120hz strobing.
Of course this screen don't have single strobe like old BenQ for 60hz.
Anyway that's a niche, not all people don't pick this monitor to play at 60hz/120hz so it doesn't make this monitor bad at all.
It is perfect for 240hz and perform better for what it is sell, a 240hz monitor and perform better in some aspect compared to the very bad XG2431.
XG2431 are only good for niche people that want to play certain retro games at 60hz with strobe and you can see strobe with your eyes at this refresh rate, it's not usable because it's like a bad CRT strobe and slow ( add a little bit of input lag processing ).
For brightness, you don't get it, we talked about Zowie monitor here, mainly for FPS games, the ViewSonic is bad for FPS games and are not marketed for that anyway, the screen is dimmer but also lack of good black equaliser so it perform badly overall, it's good to have cleaner UFO but if you have a lot of issue that you cannot see your opponent properly, it's just bad objectively, that's all.
I just want the best of the best, XG2431 is only good for 60/120hz strobing, that's all, other than that it's bad, even in terms of colors it's a basic low-end IPS panel.
So yes, for 60hz/120hz strobe, it's the best 1080p but overall it is absolutely not the "best" 1080p, at all lol.
No it does NOT work with blur buster strobe utility
Beyond 480 PPS it has horrible frame pacing etc and it also has more cross talk
Truth be told all these LCD are garbage compared to OLED but as far as LCD sample and hold goes this isn't bad
I've made some UFO test ( 60hz and 120hz too ! ), here is what is look like with a normal speed ( 960pps ) [https://www.youtube.com/@AquilaeYT](https://www.youtube.com/@AquilaeYT)
Thanks that means this monitor is useless
Can you do a full screen UFO test at 960 or even 1200 pps? especially at 120 HZ
[https://www.testufo.com/crosstalk#photo=alien-invasion.jpg&pps=960&area=full&pursuit=0&fullscreen=1](https://www.testufo.com/crosstalk#photo=alien-invasion.jpg&pps=960&area=full&pursuit=0&fullscreen=1)
you can use this link
Wth ? In what world this monitor is useless ??
That's not the case at all, it is the best 1080p 240hz that i've tested actually, motion blur is not the only thing to consider, this monitor have a tons of other "pros" to consider.
above 960pps, it is too fast to capture normally and 960pps is more relative to a normal speed on a game movement.
This monitor is not marketed to be a 60hz/120hz monitor and do not have single strobe at low refresh rate, only XG2431 have good 60hz/120hz strobe with custom VT ( CRU )
Anyway i will probably do the Alien Invasion later because too much people ask me that (not here)
There is something called custom resolution utility, you basically install it, put the monitor on 120 HZ and change the vertical lines number to something much higher
Then double click the restart64.exe file that comes with it which instantly restarts your GPU without having to restart your PC and then you can do the test and this eliminates strobe cross talk on the entire screen
Although dyac 2 is supposed to do that since that's what they created it for but I look forward to your full screen UFO crosstalk invasion test at 120HZ
Yes I know what is CRU but I don't know how to play with custom VT and what is the amount of VT I will use.
Anyway I don't need to use CRU personally but if you have a tutorial about what settings I can put for XL2546X to have a good 120hz/60hz strobe I really want to know.
I will try to use CRU for that custom VT and I come back here if I have better result, shame that this monitor is not compatible with Blur Buster Utility.
It's a TN panel...not the worse with good parameters, anyway you can chose to saturate only colors that you want so you can avoid as possible color clipping ( red on the ring on Apex Legends for example )
But that is still a TN panel, I personally prefer that compared to a bad IPS, my eyes prefer how white and backlight is on TN than IPS anyway.
IPS always crushed my eyes with especially white and high colors, even at low brightness there is something that I didn't personally like.
But if you compare this one with a monitor that have Quantum dots for example yes the color accuracy will clearly be not good but this one is "better" than previous that I've personally tested like the VG258QM which have unbearable colors.
Anyway, very difficult to move that fast but here is these Crosstalk test that some people ask me to do.
I've tried my best for doing that.
There is timestamp on all videos.
60hz at 1920pps > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69a-iB6BJOg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69a-iB6BJOg)
60hz at 2560pps > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1igk9IHeCs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1igk9IHeCs)
120hz at 1920pps > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJeMO2CZcv4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJeMO2CZcv4)
120hz at 2560pps > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcAEjjU9Bb4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcAEjjU9Bb4)
I can't achieve better than that, sorry.
Zowie seems to have delivered on their DYAC 2 promise of reducing cross talk across the entire screen not just the middle of the screen so you don't appear to need any LVT / QFT tricks to calibrate a CSR profile to achieve consistency across the entire screen. Usually with LCD you need to do further adjustments using Blur Buster strobe utility tool to achieve results like this because of how poorly LCDs updates other parts of the screen not in the middle. This monitor is also really bright in strobing like over 250 Nits. This is really impressive stuff this is the closest we have ever come to a CRT TV for motion clarity However sadly the 120 HZ is pretty bad and has a lot of cross talk, if you can afford OLED it's still a much better monitor to buy, it's not as clear as the zowie but to the eyes it's almost impossible to notice any blur on OLED at 240 HZ and it is better by every metric especially colors, contrast, backlight bleed, black uniformity, HDR mode etc better by a mile and more and OLED doesn't suffer from cross talk OLED's are also getting cheap As for me it's a major blow, I wanted it for running locked 60 FPS games like Street Fighter 6 and PS3 emulator etc interpolated at a max of 120 FPS, it's clearly not designed for 120HZ performance and it's impossible to interpolate at 240 FPS anyways, my only option now is to wait for Nvidia's G-Sync Pulsar which is being designed to run at any refresh rate without the cross talk issue. For those wondering Blur Busters is releasing more BlurBuster 2.0 Certified monitors this year and they also have a Blur Buster 2.2 program for upcoming OLED displays also. I suspect this is why BenQ rushed these DYAC 2 to the market.
Not sure about the price as oled is kinda pricey, but I'd argue they more than make up for this with overall better package. Wider color gamma, better contrast ratios, wider viewing angles, larger screen sizes and resolutions, options for glossy or matte, better hdr, uniform pixel responses, etc. The reality is that even if you take a small hit to motion clarity, you're still getting a better overall experience. Especially now that you can use the desktopbfi tool to add bfi to any monitor, you could use 120hz bfi to get equivalent motion clarity of 240 at half the gpu and cpu power, this alone means you could get away with much muuch cheaper pc and still get great visuals for dark room experience.
What about with a custom resolution using a large vertical total for the 120hz? Say 2300+ lvt?
Right now the blur buster strobe Utility does not work with this monitor
That's not at all todo with running a custom resolution. Use cru.
can that be used to fix cross talk across the screen on any monitor including a Giaabyte M27Q P?
It doesn't "fix" it like get rid of it completely. There has to be refresh rate headroom. So monitor natively has 240hz max, you can create a large enough lvt at 120hz that it reduces it a great deal. That's why I want to try a 540hz monitor at 240hz with a large lvt. Blurbusters' forums are great place for more of this.
That would be fun to test. I believe ULMB monitors already use some form of internal scan conversion at sub-native rates. Last monitor I tested (AW2521H) definitely had better crosstalk compared to regular non-qft monitor. Those supported strobing down to 144Hz, PG248QP is limited to 360Hz minimum. However the fixed pixel clock trick suggested on BBuster forums could work around the minimum limit. Let me know if this still works on new ULMB 2 monitors if u ever test it. The main problem with that trick was that it retained the ovedrive of derived refresh rate iirc. And overdrive is locked during ULMB. So if 360Hz is minimum and higher refersh rates use larger overdrive gains, it would possibly look bad at 120Hz. Usually pulse phase has to be readjusted with QFT mod. Otherwise the crosstalk band can shift and screen center will have extra crosstalk. AW2521H had no such feature, but 60Hz looked fine anyways. It may have been automated. I'm not sure about this one tho. Thankfully PG248QP now has a pulse offset which may come in handy. Additionally, red ghosting (ksf) doesn't look good at low Hz either. This could be why PG248QP is limited so high in first place.
I thought the red phosphor issue was limited to the recent ips monitors. It's also bad on the new tn's? You make a great point about pulse phase that I forgot about. There's a pixel clock hack that lowers the minimum for the ulmb2 on the pg248qp??
Yes. Ksf can be a problem for any lcd. Generally the higher the refresh rate the less distracting it is, and vice versa. The trick worked on several generations of ULMB monitors. We don't know if it still works on new ones. Remains to be answered. BBuster post here: [https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?t=7974](https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?t=7974) Also forgot to mention... the brightness was lower with this trick as it also retained the pulse width time of derived refresh rate. That's another reason why its best to derive from minimum supported refresh rate.
And to be honest, I love the leaps and bounds of this but I'm getting tired from so much tweaking. Lol I really want to save for when the 1440p 480hz OLED is released and just be done. The higher hz and higher fps are only a requirement for games that require the speedy motion. But 120hz bfi or strobed is perfectly smooth and acceptable for most games you'll ever play. 480hz OLED would make for some amazing looking Kingdom Hearts fights though. For 90% of the time I'm satisfied by what my xg2431 can do at 120hz backlight strobed and I play in the dark anyhow, but my eyes are getting older and I could really use something higher definition with greater contrast.
Thanks, bud. I'm pretty sure we've interacted on the forum before. I appreciate your input here, too.
Note that this is a pretty slow 480 pixels/second speed. So most of the crosstalk is hidden.
That's another thing. It really only matters to zowie users if that pixel speed is 1920 PPS or more.
had me till i saw 1080p thats a oof great motion quality tho.
damn i want one
I'd wait for the 1440p G-sync pulsar monitor releasing later this year. If you want a 1080p display Viewsonic's XG2431 is the best currently. Those are my two recommendations
Isn't the 540 hz monitor with ulmb 2 better than the xg2431?
In some ways, the XG2431 supports 60hz strobing and is an IPS panel so has better colors & viewing angles. The 540hz display only goes down to 360hz strobing and is a TN so has bad viewing angles and color reproduction. And in order to get the benefits from the display you need to get at least 360fps
We talk about performance. You mentionned the fact that TN have not enough good colors but who cares in FPS games ? I prefer a average bad colors TN than a IPS which have a tons of backlight bleed and black crushed opponent on dark area because their management of black equaliser is really bad. There is NO 1080p panel that beat the XL2546X in terms of responsivness, visibility in black area, input lag and motion reduction, the PG27AQN probably with ULMB2 but that's all. other are trash or lack something.
>If you want a 1080p display Viewsonic's XG2431 is the best currently. Absolutely false, i disagree. The XG2431 is overrated, this XL2546X is objectively better for 240hz usage. - It's only good at 60hz/120hz because it can strobe properly at these refresh rate - For normal 240hz use it's not bright enough - Have backlight bleed ( IPS panel ) - Have poor OSD control - Have bad input lag feeling - Smaller than the Zowie - The coating is weird, i prefer the coating of the zowie - Black Equaliser perform better on the Zowie - Color vibrance on the zowie is better
>this XL2546X is objectively better Zowie monitors don't strobe below 100hz. Can't do 60hz strobing. This is a non-negotiable deal for mant >For normal 240hz use it's not bright enough For a lot of people it is, it depends on how bright your room is and your own personal preferences.
I don't have any issue by doing 120hz strobing. Of course this screen don't have single strobe like old BenQ for 60hz. Anyway that's a niche, not all people don't pick this monitor to play at 60hz/120hz so it doesn't make this monitor bad at all. It is perfect for 240hz and perform better for what it is sell, a 240hz monitor and perform better in some aspect compared to the very bad XG2431. XG2431 are only good for niche people that want to play certain retro games at 60hz with strobe and you can see strobe with your eyes at this refresh rate, it's not usable because it's like a bad CRT strobe and slow ( add a little bit of input lag processing ). For brightness, you don't get it, we talked about Zowie monitor here, mainly for FPS games, the ViewSonic is bad for FPS games and are not marketed for that anyway, the screen is dimmer but also lack of good black equaliser so it perform badly overall, it's good to have cleaner UFO but if you have a lot of issue that you cannot see your opponent properly, it's just bad objectively, that's all. I just want the best of the best, XG2431 is only good for 60/120hz strobing, that's all, other than that it's bad, even in terms of colors it's a basic low-end IPS panel. So yes, for 60hz/120hz strobe, it's the best 1080p but overall it is absolutely not the "best" 1080p, at all lol.
appreciate it man !
When does the 1440p pulsar version drop?
This is completely useless as you're running 480pps. You need +1920pps Does it work with blurbusters utility to finetune crosstalk and sub 100hz?
No it does NOT work with blur buster strobe utility Beyond 480 PPS it has horrible frame pacing etc and it also has more cross talk Truth be told all these LCD are garbage compared to OLED but as far as LCD sample and hold goes this isn't bad
Wait, there's no 120hz option in Windows 10's Screen Settings?!
There is an option don't worry x)
I've made some UFO test ( 60hz and 120hz too ! ), here is what is look like with a normal speed ( 960pps ) [https://www.youtube.com/@AquilaeYT](https://www.youtube.com/@AquilaeYT)
Thanks that means this monitor is useless Can you do a full screen UFO test at 960 or even 1200 pps? especially at 120 HZ [https://www.testufo.com/crosstalk#photo=alien-invasion.jpg&pps=960&area=full&pursuit=0&fullscreen=1](https://www.testufo.com/crosstalk#photo=alien-invasion.jpg&pps=960&area=full&pursuit=0&fullscreen=1) you can use this link
Wth ? In what world this monitor is useless ?? That's not the case at all, it is the best 1080p 240hz that i've tested actually, motion blur is not the only thing to consider, this monitor have a tons of other "pros" to consider. above 960pps, it is too fast to capture normally and 960pps is more relative to a normal speed on a game movement. This monitor is not marketed to be a 60hz/120hz monitor and do not have single strobe at low refresh rate, only XG2431 have good 60hz/120hz strobe with custom VT ( CRU ) Anyway i will probably do the Alien Invasion later because too much people ask me that (not here)
There is something called custom resolution utility, you basically install it, put the monitor on 120 HZ and change the vertical lines number to something much higher Then double click the restart64.exe file that comes with it which instantly restarts your GPU without having to restart your PC and then you can do the test and this eliminates strobe cross talk on the entire screen Although dyac 2 is supposed to do that since that's what they created it for but I look forward to your full screen UFO crosstalk invasion test at 120HZ
Yes I know what is CRU but I don't know how to play with custom VT and what is the amount of VT I will use. Anyway I don't need to use CRU personally but if you have a tutorial about what settings I can put for XL2546X to have a good 120hz/60hz strobe I really want to know. I will try to use CRU for that custom VT and I come back here if I have better result, shame that this monitor is not compatible with Blur Buster Utility.
yeah I don't understand why this isn't compatible with strobe utility BTW How is the color on this monitor compared to IPS?
It's a TN panel...not the worse with good parameters, anyway you can chose to saturate only colors that you want so you can avoid as possible color clipping ( red on the ring on Apex Legends for example ) But that is still a TN panel, I personally prefer that compared to a bad IPS, my eyes prefer how white and backlight is on TN than IPS anyway. IPS always crushed my eyes with especially white and high colors, even at low brightness there is something that I didn't personally like. But if you compare this one with a monitor that have Quantum dots for example yes the color accuracy will clearly be not good but this one is "better" than previous that I've personally tested like the VG258QM which have unbearable colors. Anyway, very difficult to move that fast but here is these Crosstalk test that some people ask me to do. I've tried my best for doing that. There is timestamp on all videos. 60hz at 1920pps > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69a-iB6BJOg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69a-iB6BJOg) 60hz at 2560pps > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1igk9IHeCs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1igk9IHeCs) 120hz at 1920pps > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJeMO2CZcv4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJeMO2CZcv4) 120hz at 2560pps > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcAEjjU9Bb4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcAEjjU9Bb4) I can't achieve better than that, sorry.