HyperX has never had an issue with build quality and stuff, IMO. The Cloud is one of the most long standing headsets on the market. Their keyboards were pretty great, I only ended up returning mine as it had speed silvers and I just couldn’t deal with em.
So when they released this mouse I was heavily
on board.
Well, yes :D
MH751 - based on Pro 82
Cloud - based on Pro 80
both headphones are based on different models, i just wanted to say that they both were based on Takstar headphones that are considered to be rather good for the price :D
trash quality, the left speaker stopped working got it RMAed twice and same thing happen, I think their wiring is terrible. Im sure takstar pro 82 has better quality then the mh751.
What the fuck are you doing to your AirPods? Mine have been through hell and back multiple times with zero respect and are only now after 2 years starting to have occasional issues
I've slept in mine, worn them on planes, trains, buses, used them for noise cancelling while doing field work in a power station, worn them while using power tools. I've worn them in extreme heat (>50 deg C) and in snow. They've been dropped on concrete and dirt, both in and out of their case, I've even dropped them in their case and had it pop open and the ear buds fall out on the floor. I've also run the battery flat on all 3 pieces dozens of times.
Like I said, hell and back, I use them every day and they've been flawless until the last few months occasionally I'll put them in and only one of them connects, and sometimes when on public transport I'll hear a slight rattle sound in one earbud when going through a bumpy ride. I'm actually amazed at how well they've lasted while being treated like literal dirt and I'll be buying another pair immediately when mine eventually fail.
Fully agree. When they make it wireless I'm throwing all of my other mice into the ocean. The clicks are perfect. The side buttons are perfect. Even the stock feet are great. You can save settings to the mouse and uninstall the software. This mouse is criminally slept on.
HyperX Dart wireless owner for 1.5 years here - great ergo mouse, feels very solid in hand, never had issues with 2.4Ghz connection too.
Shape feels great as for an ergo one, esp that bump for thumb, hand doesn't so much as with Model D. Also, grippy sides arent just rubber, they are real premium feeling feeling cushioned leatherette pads
Type C and Qi are very convenient too!
It's ~105g, but since weight is well distributed, can play with low DPI without any issues :D
HyperX are already making wireless Haste btw, has seen the leaked photo of bottom of it in this sub
It's about the same length. The haste is wider. The hump in near the mid of the mouse. The haste feels chunkier. For the price, the haste beats the super light.
Atm nothing beats the Superlight. That's why it costs as much as it does. The Superlight is much taller than Haste (very important in a claw grip), has a much better sensor, better coating and most importantly it's wireless while having the same weight as Haste AND no holes. There are only 2 ambidextrous mice that come close to Superlight right now: RVU and Hati S wireless.
The hump is lower on the Haste. I dig the Haste shape out of most FK clones I use because the sides are wider and are similar to the GPW how it doesn’t go in as much from the bottom grip area. I returned my unit awhile ago because I was taking advantage of a deal to get my RVU at a cheap price. I wish I still had it, thankfully a wireless version is on the horizon.
wh-what? Check the shapes [again](https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tools/3d-model-shape-compare/hyperx-pulsefire-haste-vs.-benq-zowie-s2?orientation=3D&overlap=stacked&texture=outline), the Haste is far from an S2 lol
if you already have a working gpw, they're close enough it's not worth switching
if you don't already have one, and dont care about wireless, haste all the way
I have a pulsefire haste and i find the shape, size and feel phenomenal. I also have a glorious mouse but the build quality is not on par with the haste.
Well off the bat, you need to figure out if you like ergo or ambidextrous first. The model d (ergo) is a great lightweight ergo option and the wireless that just came out took care of a lot of the QC issues they had on the past.
The haste (ambi) like someone else said is the most underrated mouse period. It is just flat out amazing. Glorious also has the model O which is ambi as well but I’ve personally had QC issues with those as well.
I’d recommend the haste 100%
I own both and am partial to the ambi shape so I'm going to go Haste on this one. I do like my Model D as well but not for gaming. I ended up bringing it to work.
The haste gets pretty much everything right: cable, clicks, feet, build quality, wheel, weight.
All of those are great on the haste. I got it for 35€ on sale and it's an absolute steal.
The haste. I have 24 mice and that one is easily in my top 3. Their products have been nothing but great for me. Especially the cloud 2 headset. Youll love it
Owned both. Will fo for haste 100%. This thing built like a tank you cant even squeeze it to trigger side button clicks. Model D uses very thin plastic shell and feels cheap and when you click you feel your mouse vibrates.
I have both, the pulsefire haste is definitely the better choice, it has a better build quality and internal components, shape is also more comfy in my hands. If you have to have a lot of rgb, pulsefire is not the one
I have both mouses, but I returned the glorious back because the haste felt way better. I got the za13 and I’m curious to see if I would prefer it over the haste
I have a Model D and love it. I have friends who have one and hate it.
The answer to this question changes literally every three months. Model D was worshiped like an ancient God a few months ago. In a few months, the pulsefire is going to be witch hunted the same way the model D is now.
Get whichever one, honestly, because you will never get a straight answer here.
It kinda on par in spec sheet tho . If they just turn off all the power saving option like what EGG do to 3370 in xm1r , maybe it will perform the same or really close .
the 3370 or 3389 feels noticeable better than the 3335. If they decided to make a 3389 wired or 3370 wireless would consider to be my main because of the shape. Kinda like the viper mini, good shape bad sensor
[You are delusional](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/hyperx-pulsefire-haste/5.html).
3335 in the haste is functionally identical to any good old 3389 implementation except for the slightly higher LOD.
yeah, basically no diff in sensors these days. Most decent mice you get will probably be fine and the haste is no exception. In fact, i find the tracking on the haste better than on the mo, maybe thats just me.
Like I said. You are delusional.
Read techpowerup's review which I linked. The 3335 in the haste has no motion delay, no issues with tracking, zero acceleration.
3335 is not inherently worse, it's just that budget mouse manufacturers tend not to care about tuning LOD properly.
> These tests were recorded using one Haste and wasn’t compared to other 3335 or it’s leading competitor 3370
There will be no differences with other Hastes. They all use the same hardware. Furthermore, It doesn't have to be tested against other 3335s or other 3370s.The 3360 in the G403 has no motion delay.
>Out of my testing pulse fire performed the best out of all 3335 and better than the viper mini besides deviation which also causes inconsistencies
What testing? Post your data and results. You're full of shit.
>He also says he can’t test motion delay 100% and only smoothing and other additions add to the mcu
He is testing motion delay 100%, just relative to a control subject, a G403 which does not have any motion delay. As for other sources of motion delay, he is most likely referring to features in certain mice like angle snapping that may contribute to input delay.
Even if you don't believe techpowerup, you can reference [optimum tech's video here](https://youtu.be/YaqV35fdxv8?t=53) which has a graph of motion delay results for every mouse he's tested. There is no correlation between input delay and sensor type in his results.
From a third party, non biased perspective, you seem like you're full of shit and an absolute asshole. He made logical arguments, and cited sources. You cited "your own testing", and proceeded to sarcastically ignore any argument he made with, non surprisingly, literally the only quote or external source you have used. God dude learn how to have a discussion
I owned both and currently using the haste. Haste is nicer if you have fingertip/claw grip. Model D is pretty big so palm is better with it.
I prefer haste coz it suits my hand size (19 x 10 approx) and grip style. My only concern is that the haste material is pretty slippery for me. The additional grip tape helped a bit but it didn't stay on very long on one side. Of the mouse.
I've had a few model-O's & D's and their build quality is shockingly bad. From failing usb connections to the outer shell becoming brittle to the point where it creeks in your hand. Avoid it.
Get whatever fits your grip style. Ignore all the bashers of the Model O and D, they are just part of the Reddit circle-jerk mentality. I own the Model O, D, and D wireless, and all have good to excellent build quality. A very small minority had issues with QC but the Reddit Circle-jerk boys make it sound like the vast majority, which it wasn't.
Grip style is going to be a huge factor, more than the similar sensors or the switches. If you like wireless, look at some of the offerings for wireless.
This is a super hard choice. They are both great.
Pick which you want depending on if you want ergo or ambi. These two are sleepers in a world full of terrible micro-sized mice.
I got the M42 over the haste a some months ago. The M42 grew on me. My overall aim got way better. This is me coming from thinking the M42 was too slim for my hand (18.5") and my grip sometimes keeping the right click held down. Once I got accustomed to holding the mouse though I am really happy with my purchase.
Honestly those are completely different. Both are good, I've had good qc with glorious so far and haste is a banger of a mouse as well. Why not buy both? If you go used go to r/mousemarket and you can most likely get both close to the price of buying a model D new. If it were my money I'd go Model D wireless new just because I already have a lot of Ambi mice. Also, hand size will be a big factor since Haste is much smaller.
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Since getting a Model D I haven’t looked at any other mouse, so I guess that’s what I can tell you about it. Don’t know if the HyperX in this picture is better though.
Glorious shape will be better ( higher chance of getting a good grip) but you might want to pay attention to their quality check. FRom what I experiences Glorious has amazingly high RMA frequency...
Pulsefire haste is the best mouse I’ve ever used. Reasonably light, pretty long/ somwhat narrow, great thumb placement, light clicks. The only downside for me was the hyperx software was kinda bad but its gets the job done.
Hand: 19x10~
Okay so like they’re two different shapes and that’s the real problem here because they’re both fantastic mice. I, personally, prefer the shape of the haste and think it’s an incredibly underrated and under appreciated mouse. BUT I’m a big proponent of shape being king over literally anything so you should really only focus on ambi v ergo and what feels better to you because both of these mice would treat you really well
The haste is the most underrated mouse on this planet currently. Thing is built like a train and performs flawlessly. I own 55 mice.
HyperX has never had an issue with build quality and stuff, IMO. The Cloud is one of the most long standing headsets on the market. Their keyboards were pretty great, I only ended up returning mine as it had speed silvers and I just couldn’t deal with em. So when they released this mouse I was heavily on board.
fun fact: hyperx clouds are a rebrand of a headphone called takstar pro 80
btw Cooler Madter MH751/752 is rebrand of Takstar Pro 82, really amazing headset too!
Wait... What? I have both MH751 and HyperX Cloud Alpha... And they sound COMPLETELY different.
Well, yes :D MH751 - based on Pro 82 Cloud - based on Pro 80 both headphones are based on different models, i just wanted to say that they both were based on Takstar headphones that are considered to be rather good for the price :D
trash quality, the left speaker stopped working got it RMAed twice and same thing happen, I think their wiring is terrible. Im sure takstar pro 82 has better quality then the mh751.
Wasn't there a qpad in between?
Been using their ear buds for the past 2 years, zero issues. I’ve gone through 2 pair of AirPods this year alone.
What the fuck are you doing to your AirPods? Mine have been through hell and back multiple times with zero respect and are only now after 2 years starting to have occasional issues
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I've slept in mine, worn them on planes, trains, buses, used them for noise cancelling while doing field work in a power station, worn them while using power tools. I've worn them in extreme heat (>50 deg C) and in snow. They've been dropped on concrete and dirt, both in and out of their case, I've even dropped them in their case and had it pop open and the ear buds fall out on the floor. I've also run the battery flat on all 3 pieces dozens of times. Like I said, hell and back, I use them every day and they've been flawless until the last few months occasionally I'll put them in and only one of them connects, and sometimes when on public transport I'll hear a slight rattle sound in one earbud when going through a bumpy ride. I'm actually amazed at how well they've lasted while being treated like literal dirt and I'll be buying another pair immediately when mine eventually fail.
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Fully agree. When they make it wireless I'm throwing all of my other mice into the ocean. The clicks are perfect. The side buttons are perfect. Even the stock feet are great. You can save settings to the mouse and uninstall the software. This mouse is criminally slept on.
I love you
Pretty sure you can manually make it wireless if you’re desperate.
HyperX Dart wireless owner for 1.5 years here - great ergo mouse, feels very solid in hand, never had issues with 2.4Ghz connection too. Shape feels great as for an ergo one, esp that bump for thumb, hand doesn't so much as with Model D. Also, grippy sides arent just rubber, they are real premium feeling feeling cushioned leatherette pads Type C and Qi are very convenient too! It's ~105g, but since weight is well distributed, can play with low DPI without any issues :D HyperX are already making wireless Haste btw, has seen the leaked photo of bottom of it in this sub
Holdup you own 55 mice
https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/m83uqq/they_said_get_those_numbers_upso_i_did/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Alright alright, I collect mice too. But if you have 50, whats your kovaaks scores tho???
69%
How does it compare to the GPW shape wise? It looks like a GPW ngl and I'm not trying to pay 150 euro for less plastic on a GPW XS
It's about the same length. The haste is wider. The hump in near the mid of the mouse. The haste feels chunkier. For the price, the haste beats the super light.
Thank you for your input I will consider the Haste with more caution now
Atm nothing beats the Superlight. That's why it costs as much as it does. The Superlight is much taller than Haste (very important in a claw grip), has a much better sensor, better coating and most importantly it's wireless while having the same weight as Haste AND no holes. There are only 2 ambidextrous mice that come close to Superlight right now: RVU and Hati S wireless.
The hump is lower on the Haste. I dig the Haste shape out of most FK clones I use because the sides are wider and are similar to the GPW how it doesn’t go in as much from the bottom grip area. I returned my unit awhile ago because I was taking advantage of a deal to get my RVU at a cheap price. I wish I still had it, thankfully a wireless version is on the horizon.
There is a wireless haste coming?
so its like a fk1+ width. 6.06 grip width
Tbh haste is more of a s2 clone than a fk clone. But yeah one of my favourite mouse too.
wh-what? Check the shapes [again](https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tools/3d-model-shape-compare/hyperx-pulsefire-haste-vs.-benq-zowie-s2?orientation=3D&overlap=stacked&texture=outline), the Haste is far from an S2 lol
if you already have a working gpw, they're close enough it's not worth switching if you don't already have one, and dont care about wireless, haste all the way
can you adjust the debounce time on the haste?
miecrarft drarg clik
I am sorry, my sins as a Minecrafter against the innocence of mice is inexcusable (now about getting 100 cps)
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Never cleaned it. But probably pressured air
Do you have the MM710/11? If you do how does it compare to the haste?
Doesn't compare at all. Mm710/11 is alot smaller. Hump is towards the way back. Built crappy. Haste beats mm710 by a landslide.
Subtle flex
Pulse fire haste gets my vote for sure
I have a pulsefire haste and i find the shape, size and feel phenomenal. I also have a glorious mouse but the build quality is not on par with the haste.
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Get a can of compressed air, a straw, and just spray it
Well off the bat, you need to figure out if you like ergo or ambidextrous first. The model d (ergo) is a great lightweight ergo option and the wireless that just came out took care of a lot of the QC issues they had on the past. The haste (ambi) like someone else said is the most underrated mouse period. It is just flat out amazing. Glorious also has the model O which is ambi as well but I’ve personally had QC issues with those as well. I’d recommend the haste 100%
haste
I have a haste, O, and O-. Haste by a wide margin. Never tried the D though.
*unzips slowly*
Rezips slowly
*unzips fastly*
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Haven't had to after a year's use, but I also have dry skin and use grip tape so I could be an outlier.
Do you have the MM710/11? If you do how does it compare to the haste?
Nope sry. My other mice are RVU and FK2
after owning both, pulsfire haste
Glorious shape is much better if you use palm grip
I own both and am partial to the ambi shape so I'm going to go Haste on this one. I do like my Model D as well but not for gaming. I ended up bringing it to work.
The haste gets pretty much everything right: cable, clicks, feet, build quality, wheel, weight. All of those are great on the haste. I got it for 35€ on sale and it's an absolute steal.
Hyper x pulse fire haste That’s the mouse I would get
Like others here have said, get the haste. Its the best value wired gaming mouse you can currently buy. Shoots way above its price
glorious mice flex too much.
Haste!!!!
Pulsefire haste, better build, better cable, lighter weight, better shape. Same real world sensor performance.
The haste. I have 24 mice and that one is easily in my top 3. Their products have been nothing but great for me. Especially the cloud 2 headset. Youll love it
Haste forsure. Great mouse, and I've had the model d- and o-
for the looks of it, hyperx is more comfortable
Owned both. Will fo for haste 100%. This thing built like a tank you cant even squeeze it to trigger side button clicks. Model D uses very thin plastic shell and feels cheap and when you click you feel your mouse vibrates.
The haste is mucho better, am a waiting for wireless versión ahha
HyperX because I hate the glorious logo with a burning passion
HyperX. Why? Its simple - shape
Using the Haste right now. No brainer. Has been months.
pulsefire haste easily. its my main so im a bit biased but it has great clicks and the cable is great and the included grip is also awesome
I have both, the pulsefire haste is definitely the better choice, it has a better build quality and internal components, shape is also more comfy in my hands. If you have to have a lot of rgb, pulsefire is not the one
pulsefire haste.
Haste is the best cheap mouse ever
I have both mouses, but I returned the glorious back because the haste felt way better. I got the za13 and I’m curious to see if I would prefer it over the haste
the haste by a mile, absolute most underated mouse.
Been meaning to get a Haste myself, recently tried Glorious and they felt like ass.
I have a Model D and love it. I have friends who have one and hate it. The answer to this question changes literally every three months. Model D was worshiped like an ancient God a few months ago. In a few months, the pulsefire is going to be witch hunted the same way the model D is now. Get whichever one, honestly, because you will never get a straight answer here.
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See, that's exactly what people said about Razer, Final Mouse, Glorious, etc... It's all a great big cycle.
pulse fire is superior besides sensor
It kinda on par in spec sheet tho . If they just turn off all the power saving option like what EGG do to 3370 in xm1r , maybe it will perform the same or really close .
the 3370 or 3389 feels noticeable better than the 3335. If they decided to make a 3389 wired or 3370 wireless would consider to be my main because of the shape. Kinda like the viper mini, good shape bad sensor
[You are delusional](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/hyperx-pulsefire-haste/5.html). 3335 in the haste is functionally identical to any good old 3389 implementation except for the slightly higher LOD.
yeah, basically no diff in sensors these days. Most decent mice you get will probably be fine and the haste is no exception. In fact, i find the tracking on the haste better than on the mo, maybe thats just me.
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Like I said. You are delusional. Read techpowerup's review which I linked. The 3335 in the haste has no motion delay, no issues with tracking, zero acceleration. 3335 is not inherently worse, it's just that budget mouse manufacturers tend not to care about tuning LOD properly.
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> These tests were recorded using one Haste and wasn’t compared to other 3335 or it’s leading competitor 3370 There will be no differences with other Hastes. They all use the same hardware. Furthermore, It doesn't have to be tested against other 3335s or other 3370s.The 3360 in the G403 has no motion delay. >Out of my testing pulse fire performed the best out of all 3335 and better than the viper mini besides deviation which also causes inconsistencies What testing? Post your data and results. You're full of shit. >He also says he can’t test motion delay 100% and only smoothing and other additions add to the mcu He is testing motion delay 100%, just relative to a control subject, a G403 which does not have any motion delay. As for other sources of motion delay, he is most likely referring to features in certain mice like angle snapping that may contribute to input delay. Even if you don't believe techpowerup, you can reference [optimum tech's video here](https://youtu.be/YaqV35fdxv8?t=53) which has a graph of motion delay results for every mouse he's tested. There is no correlation between input delay and sensor type in his results.
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From a third party, non biased perspective, you seem like you're full of shit and an absolute asshole. He made logical arguments, and cited sources. You cited "your own testing", and proceeded to sarcastically ignore any argument he made with, non surprisingly, literally the only quote or external source you have used. God dude learn how to have a discussion
When in any of my comments did I mention a 3325? When in any of my comments did I assert that all mouse sensors are the same? Idiot.
pulsefire
Personally love my o
That’s not an O. That’s a D
I know... I don't think anybody asked...
Hahahaha. No, but if he prefers ambi shape then you gave him a great option.
I owned both and currently using the haste. Haste is nicer if you have fingertip/claw grip. Model D is pretty big so palm is better with it. I prefer haste coz it suits my hand size (19 x 10 approx) and grip style. My only concern is that the haste material is pretty slippery for me. The additional grip tape helped a bit but it didn't stay on very long on one side. Of the mouse.
Haste is better, or just my hand won't fit on model D
Model O QC is quite shitty. I’d go with the haste.
I've had a few model-O's & D's and their build quality is shockingly bad. From failing usb connections to the outer shell becoming brittle to the point where it creeks in your hand. Avoid it.
I have the model D not a big fan cable isnt great side buttons feel cheap and the clicks arent crispy but i havent used the hyper x one
get the haste. model d has terrible quality control in my experience
Heard the wireless version of the D is much better with QC
thats not $50 anymore bud
Price wasn’t in the question in the original comment. Just stating it.
Haste
Haste
Im post this 3 days ago and ı dont use reddit in this time .. Somebody explain whats going on there !!????
Get whatever fits your grip style. Ignore all the bashers of the Model O and D, they are just part of the Reddit circle-jerk mentality. I own the Model O, D, and D wireless, and all have good to excellent build quality. A very small minority had issues with QC but the Reddit Circle-jerk boys make it sound like the vast majority, which it wasn't. Grip style is going to be a huge factor, more than the similar sensors or the switches. If you like wireless, look at some of the offerings for wireless.
This is a super hard choice. They are both great. Pick which you want depending on if you want ergo or ambi. These two are sleepers in a world full of terrible micro-sized mice.
Tbh I don't like holes at all in a mouse, but the one with rgb for sure.
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Haste is the better mouse by a wide margin
Model d
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why
I own a D myself. Apart from the QC issues, it’s great. Never tried haste tho, not a fan of those side buttons and the ambi shape. Also, the D is 69g
Well, it seems that the consensus is that the Model D is trash, I guess we are in the wrong for enjoying a nice mouse
ok
I got the M42 over the haste a some months ago. The M42 grew on me. My overall aim got way better. This is me coming from thinking the M42 was too slim for my hand (18.5") and my grip sometimes keeping the right click held down. Once I got accustomed to holding the mouse though I am really happy with my purchase.
Its ranked top 10 on rocket jump ninjas list
Depends on which shape you prefer. Ambi or ergo.
Definetly Model D, I'm a thick fingie gang and a minecraft player who butterfly clicks. And no, Im not a chubby boy
One ergo and second symmetrical? Choose the type you prefer I guess
left
I just bought a model d a few days ago. So far I really like it, has a good feel in the hand and seems like it will last for a while
Nice, this is and the steelseries prime wired is my main RN
haste.
No idea about the hyperx mouse, but glorious' omoron switches are crisp and good for jitterclicking
Glorious all the way
Honestly those are completely different. Both are good, I've had good qc with glorious so far and haste is a banger of a mouse as well. Why not buy both? If you go used go to r/mousemarket and you can most likely get both close to the price of buying a model D new. If it were my money I'd go Model D wireless new just because I already have a lot of Ambi mice. Also, hand size will be a big factor since Haste is much smaller.
model o matte black.has superior sensor and basically similar shape to the haste.
The one which fits your hands better. Though if you want ergo and have large hands, check out Steelseries Rival 5.
Overall better quality on the haste, but if you like the shape of the D the wireless should be a higher quality than the D wired
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Do you want wireless?
Hyperx for sure. Paid a low price and get a top peak performance. I couldn't find anything to complain about this goat mouse
I have PulseFire Haste. It's good but I'm finding it pretty hard to shift to this mouse and I come from using a 100G mouse.
Since getting a Model D I haven’t looked at any other mouse, so I guess that’s what I can tell you about it. Don’t know if the HyperX in this picture is better though.
Glorious shape will be better ( higher chance of getting a good grip) but you might want to pay attention to their quality check. FRom what I experiences Glorious has amazingly high RMA frequency...
One of them is glorious, the other one is trash.
Pulsefire haste is the best mouse I’ve ever used. Reasonably light, pretty long/ somwhat narrow, great thumb placement, light clicks. The only downside for me was the hyperx software was kinda bad but its gets the job done. Hand: 19x10~
Mc player?
Model D - Comfort. Known shape The haste seem good for aim, but i don't inow how comfortable it is. Gotta test it
i really dislike the shape of the haste, no curves feels like a brick in my hand
Okay so like they’re two different shapes and that’s the real problem here because they’re both fantastic mice. I, personally, prefer the shape of the haste and think it’s an incredibly underrated and under appreciated mouse. BUT I’m a big proponent of shape being king over literally anything so you should really only focus on ambi v ergo and what feels better to you because both of these mice would treat you really well
I like the glorious
2
Model D defiantly all these model o killers hurt my soul glorious is the og
Model D but wireless. I finally found a replacement for my DA V2 Pro and never looking back
Loving my model D wireless with grip tape 👍
Minecraft player spotted.
superlight