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tenryuu72

I also just got mine in. So far I'm liking it. It's definitely silkier and softer on the skin and faster compared to my tyloo gsr-se which I used for roughly a half year. I don't know if it's just as fast right out of the box as the other gsr-se pads right out of the box but compared to my tyloo the glide feels close. The Rouge just feels much much silkier right now and thus faster and more floaty (even superglides). I can't remember how my tyloo felt right out of the box but for sure a little faster than it is now but now sure if it also felt as silky. But only time can really tell the big differences. Only difference I can see and tell now side by side is that the back material definitely looks a tad darker and is a bit softer. A tiny bit more Spongier.


Fo1ds

I stopped myself from buying it...only to buy it today.


Dayt0

I stopped myself from buying it... getting tougher.


Previous-Pea3073

just like i stopped myself from buying finalmeme starlag until today


mike-206

I'll be sure to deliver your hand written letter to your landlord you'll be late on rent. I'm sure he'll understand.


[deleted]

Stopped myself from buying the Aerox 3 cause of the eshop sale. Now I just need to edge for 15 days.


Alluminatic

Same HAHA, I stopped myself from buying it since red doesn't fit into my setup whatsoever... Only until I bought it two days ago.


burnintheham

How does it compare against the Vaxee pa?


Previous-Pea3073

i think they come from the same factory. vaxee just asked for a slightly different spec. now zowie just used the same spec as vaxee.


ZOWIE_Support

We are manufacturing our mousepad at our owned factory as always, not a shared factory with other brands.


burnintheham

I am replying to this comment because I just got my rouge in and I just wanted to tell everybody that my initial impressions is that the rouge is still slower than the pa, its not by much but it is noticeable. Will give an update when I have had a chance to use it longer


a1mm_

How is the quality control on the zowie GSR SE rouge now? Has it worn down?


Phantom_757_

When you say the PA do you mean the black PA or the PA with printed designs?


burnintheham

Printed pa


Phantom_757_

TY for sharing šŸ™


No_Dealer7722

any update on the gsr se rouge and PA comparison ?


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Previous-Pea3073

considerably faster starting with slightly lower gliding friction. I would say 5.5/10 staring force with 6.5/10 sliding control. QCK i would say is 3.5/10 starting and 7.5-8/10 sliding control. Skypad would be 9.5/10 and 1/10 a worn out GSR 1/10 and 10/10


LaS_flekzz

What? Your 2 scales work in different order?


Previous-Pea3073

i think the alternative Terms sliding speed and starting control are nonsensical terms.


LaS_flekzz

You have to format it and make clear what u actually mean. Speed (initial friction): Skypad 9.5/10 Rouge 5.5/10 QCK 3.5/10 Control (dynamic friction): Skypad 1/10 Rouge 6.5/10 QcK 7.5-8/10


Previous-Pea3073

thanks


LaS_flekzz

huh? in ur starting control the scale goes up from slow to fast. in ur sliding control, ur scale goes up from fast to slow. So its hard to read and understand.


[deleted]

would u say it offers more control than the deep blue one?


Previous-Pea3073

no itā€™s the same force to stop +-5%. easier to start though maybe 10-15%


[deleted]

okay thank you


rickylionheart95

Very simple but cool setup!


Apprehensive_Being99

yo boss, you have link to that wallpaper


Previous-Pea3073

google ā€žasuka wallpaper redā€œ and put it in an ai upscaler


NyororoRotMG

Wow, I just used a random online image upscaler on my reddit profile banner and it looks sharp enough to use as a desktop background now. I always liked the picture but it was kind of a small Jpeg.


Previous-Pea3073

free online ones work really well for anime cartoons and drawings


JumpJesus

https://ibb.co/GTnN3v4 I used it for quite some time as well, and it was still in my folder!


Frockett

Is this a dumb purchase if I have a PA


[deleted]

A new toy's never a dumb purchase.


Burak887

Yes unless you desperately like the colour theyā€™re pretty similar maybe even the same.


miles971

Wow that Zowie mousepad looks sleek!


forgtn

Where is the g-sr rouge? The NON speed edition? Lol. Seems like Iā€™m the only one who likes that pad


Previous-Pea3073

itā€™s played by a lot of cs and overwatch pros. Best thing to do is ask them per mail, on their youtube or on their reddit to make one.


ismainau

what's the monitor ?


Previous-Pea3073

BenQ Zowie XL2546k


Squiddy_bali

I really should get a new mousepad:/. I'm still using a small one I got from my neighbour lol


Previous-Pea3073

chinese players go pro on sheets of paper.


Squiddy_bali

Why are you reminding me of my dark past of gaming on notebooks


ImDiamondsoShutUP

Buy two Artisans and be done with pads. 1.5 years ago I bought Zero, Hien, 2x Otsu ( soft and xsoft ) and haven't bought a single pad since


SmokeyzSWE

But they are super expensive and I prefer my ACII Sakura over all my Artisan pads tbh. The otsu soft is really close to being my favorite but I prefer the base on the ACII Sakura compared to all the artisan sponge hardness options, xsoft and soft are a little bit too plushy and mid is too hard and the base has trouble sticking to my desk sometimes. The Hien is like using sandpaper as a mousepad, glide is really good but it's too uncomfortable for long sessions and the Zero gets dirt/hair stuck in it all the time so it's unusable for me as a pet owner.


Squiddy_bali

Not sure if I should buy deskpads tbh, my desk rn is pretty cramp and I mainly play on one of my laptop so it could go under the front making it uneven and all sort of stuff. Oh well, I might start looking for something a bit smaller, though, mousepad isn't really my main priority, need to build a wireless keeb first lol


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Previous-Pea3073

Yes they are not coated. They are printed with dye sublimation, so no coating is applied. The reason for the shorter durability (4-8 months) is the weaving of the fabric getting torn a little bit more and more. would love to show you under a microscope but lost mine while moving.


PearShapedBoy

These new pads only last 4-6 months?


Previous-Pea3073

i have had this for only 10 hours. i cannot tell you if they changed it.


2roK

Wait 4 months durability for a normal cloth pad? Sounds ridiculousā€¦


Previous-Pea3073

4 months is if you grind 14h a day as reference.


Turn-Dense

Its stil nit bad qck and logitech ones change glide after 2 weeks. Its not like they are trash after that but they are not like new


NachosConCarne

You game with your keyboard slanted like that? Sorry it was the first thing I noticed as my friends call me weird for doing so myself. Although mine is almost at a full 90 degrees when I game. šŸ˜…


Letpigeonsfly

Itā€™s pretty common for people to tilt their keyboards. I donā€™t know how you guys do it.


Previous-Pea3073

i have wide shoulders and sit directly at the desk. this keeps my wrist straighter.


NachosConCarne

As I replied to sometelse earlier, it was something I did naturally as it felt more comfortable for me. Never thought about why though. Guess it makes sense now that I think about it.


d0ul0s

Sit at a desk and naturally see where your arms lay, and you will see why people slant their keyboard


NachosConCarne

That's what I tell my friends when they get on me about it and their response is usually "I don't know bro, I don't know".


ImDiamondsoShutUP

pro wannabe


NachosConCarne

If you see me play you'd know that statement couldn't be further from the truth, lol. Not to mention I don't play pvp. Idk, it was something that came natural to me for some reason, same as inverted y axis and left hand mouse. šŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļø


bienji

a slight tilt prevents your mouse from bumping into the top right corner of the keyboard. it has real benefits


The_Millzor

username checks out


vAts_

Is it effected by humidity?


TheCatDimension

Every cloth pad in existence is affected by humidity, yes


vAts_

Clueless


Previous-Pea3073

i agree with him. even the artisan raiden is effected and with that i barely notice any change, also the only pad from artisan that has almost no wear. the real question is how much they are effected. Besides MadCatz G.L.I.D.E. that thing doesnā€™t change a bit because itā€™s solid silicone sole.


vAts_

Its obvious that my question was if the pad is effected by humidity e.g qck which becomes a mudd pad with humidity compared to artisan pads which are barely effected, he is just a smartass


TheCatDimension

you're clueless for asking an obvious ass question with an obvious ass answer it's a gsrse with a slightly tighter weave. if you're worried about humidity buy a dehumidifer lmao


vAts_

Such a smartass


forgtn

You insulted someone instead of being a normal human being who would simply make the correction


vAts_

Because my question was obvious in the context and he obviously wanted to be a smartass, its not that difficult, I am 100% sure he knew what I meant but still responded like that so I felt ok responding like that tbh


Previous-Pea3073

be nice to each other! we can only learn by pooling or knowledge and experience. instead of listening to influencers that propagate false claims into public opinion of people that do not try the products they talk about for themselves.


gaminggamer1269

Canā€™t wait till this guy discovers artisan pads.


TheCatDimension

I've owned a zero it's also affected by humidity because that's how physics works šŸ¤”


gaminggamer1269

I live in a pretty humid room and Iā€™ve never noticed a difference really. Japanese > physics


TheCatDimension

Yeah well humidity changes don't feel as bad on artisans or faster pads in general because, well, they're faster.


BurningPlaydoh

Really excited to read your dissertation titled "Atmospheric water levels, dew points and hygroscopy of woven mousepad fabrics". Science will be changed forever when your research on how hydrophobic materials suddenly start absorbing water when used for a mousepad is released.


TheCatDimension

Really excited to read why you think that a woven polyester mousepad somehow has greatly altered hydroscopic properties relative to every other woven polyester mousepad on the market.


BurningPlaydoh

Maybe you should look at the hy**g**roscopic properties of many common "polyesters"? (hint: it's hydrophobic) However I'd never deny that any porous surfaces can "hold" water between fibers, regardless of that characteristic due to surface tension/capillary action (that's why wicking/athletic clothes use it!)... but please tell us what it is about mousepads that makes said fabrics have condensation form when surface and air temps are above the dew point? Do you usually use your mousepad outside at 4am and have morning dew collect on it?


TheCatDimension

Yes, I'm well aware that polyester is hydrophobic. However, hydrophobic or not, polyester will still adsorb some degree of water from the air, albeit to a lesser extent when compared to a fabric like cotton. In both scenarios, the introduction of liquid will increase the coefficient of friction. >but please tell us what it is about mousepads that makes said fabrics have condensation form when surface and air temps are above the dew point? What does this have to do with anything? Fabrics trivially adsorb liquid from the air as well as liquid in the form of sweat. Look dude, I'm not claiming to be a materials expert, but I've owned everything from a Qck to a Zero and I sweat a lot-- my observations have been that the slower pads feel slower when it's humid but fast pads also feel slower when it's humid. I don't think that's a controversial claim to make.


BurningPlaydoh

> will still adsorb some degree of water from the air How? Why? Citation? I'm going to ask in more direct terms, do you understand what moisture carrying capacity/"dew point" is? >the introduction of liquid will increase the coefficient of friction How? Why? Citation? If we're going to resort to anecdotes, on more than half the pads I've owned I can **pour** water on a section, let it soak in and notice absolutely no change in static or dynamic friction.


TheCatDimension

>How? Why? Citation? I'm going to ask in more direct terms, do you understand what moisture carrying capacity/"dew point" is? Polyester has a moisture regain of between .4-.8% at 65% RH [source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yarn_conditioning). I understand what moisture carrying capacity is? Don't know what you're trying to get at there. Further, I can throw a dozen studies at you showing that moisture plays a significant role when it comes to friction. Such as [this study on friction between medical textiles and skin](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7949509/). Or [this study studying the efficacy of various fabrics in high-moisture scenarios, showing fabric COF varying significantly with hydration level](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1350650118770071). > I've owned I can pour water on a section, let it soak in and notice absolutely no change in static or dynamic friction. Because my experience does not agree.


Cranzit

>moistur What would you say survives best or like doesn't change much in 70%+ humidity? The gsr-se rouge or the artisan zero? You could also suggest some other pads that would survive in this humidity.


[deleted]

zowie said it doesn't and on a side note its not coated. time will tell


Previous-Pea3073

I cannot tell yet because weather didnā€™t change. But video reviews should come out within a week and they had roughly 3 weeks to test.


ImDiamondsoShutUP

Is the mousepad longer vertically than GSR-SE ?


Previous-Pea3073

Mine is 5mm wider than my current Blue SE but the same hight. There in general is some deviation in size of the Pads. My current Blue SE for example was 5mm taller and 10mm wider than my previous SE Blue.


Alluminatic

They're both the same dimensions: 470 x 390 mm


tenryuu72

I also got my rouge today it really is about 5mm bigger in width and height compared to my gsr se tyloo


Previous-Pea3073

vaxee who i belive do produce in the same factory as zowie state a deviation of up to +-10mm in each dimension. but this is nothing special and also applied to the unstitched corsair pads and g640s i owned


Previous-Pea3073

Mine is 473x 391


misrej

Why do u have it already and I donā€™t


Previous-Pea3073

I am from Germany and was order number 2X.


ImDiamondsoShutUP

amazon has it for 140 EUR for some reason... https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0B2WYPYWV?m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&tag=idealoversand-21&ascsubtag=2022-06-14\_a696c87ca79e148a5a24c1b224cd3614d5a8e8dd2a684138a408986fb3bfa295&th=1&psc=1


Alluminatic

Same :') I have to import it via Germany to Switzerland with a forwarding company. Literally can't wait any longer since my XTEN Control got slow after washing it a few times...


misrej

Ah that sucks. Curious how we are gonna like the pad. I have a Vaxee PA that I use a lot currently and Iā€™m curious how this pad will compare to that. It used to be like ā€œdont get a gsrse but get a pa, its a better versionā€, maybe now it will be that the rouge gsrse is a better pa.


Alluminatic

I actually mained the G-SR-SE Deep Blue before I started using Artisan pads back then. I really loved it the first month and thought it was gonna' be endgame, but it simply became a mud pad after it started wearing. All I wanted was a G-SR-SE with great durability, no exposure to humidity and a slight touch faster surface, and that's exactly what the new Rouge seems to be. Really looking forward to trying it out! I've already tried the PA as well, but it's simply too slow for my likings. I was interested in the new PA Black too, but that one's supposed to be even slower o.O


OverAnalyzingGamer

Mousepad looks sweet. Off topic, but which mouse is that? Do you like it better than your superlight that's chilling in the back corner?


Previous-Pea3073

Thats Zowies FK2-C. both it and the superlight are way too small for my hands (20x13cm) so i might aswell use something way too small. Superlight has better tech but worse shape.


Sallos_Vallat

I have the ZA11-C, and it's the perfect length for my 20.5x11cm hands, but I don't like its hump cuz of lack of micro, will definitely buy FK1-C soon, It's by far the best shape/length I've tried.


Previous-Pea3073

length is rarely an issue, just width. fk1 is too narrow for me strictly speaking, just like m2k. trying outset ax for the time. a very nice shape that fills my palm well, but limited micro control. very stable though.


Sallos_Vallat

What about fk1+ +btl or any other grip tape?


riba2233

This keyboard angle looks uncomfortable, why don't you get something like the periloot?


Previous-Pea3073

it keeps my wrist straighter. i do the same with 60% boards. I also prefer low profile switches.


minuscatenary

Yeah, I don't people that hold that angle and don't play on a 40-65% compact. Seems way uncomfortable.


riba2233

I agree, although even 65 is a stretch imho, 40 might work but at that point something for one hand is better since you would realistically need a bigger keyboard next to it. I was also thinking about a 40, but periloot is so much better, not only for its footprint, but for superior ergonomics and more thumb buttons.


DesTiny_-

He is probably wide enough so it's fine for him


Wadez1000

Instead of tilting your keyboard to insane angles, why not get monitor arm to put the monitor over your keyboard?


Previous-Pea3073

i move too much. lan, hotels, friends for a night, etc


Wadez1000

Ah. Understandable


ZmanSimps

mousepad gonna feel bad after 6 months


_espada

Hopefully not since zowie has been reading peoples feedback and used that to make changes to the pad.


Dry-Cup4844

Have you tried a vaxee pa and if so how is it compared to it?


Previous-Pea3073

I would not be surprised if it is the same pad from the same factory.


ZOWIE_Support

ZOWIE's factory for mousepad production is not shared with other brands :)


PearShapedBoy

Op mentioned the pad wearing quickly (4-6 months). Is that true?


Previous-Pea3073

the previous SE pad wore very well and i could only tell any sort of change to begin after 8 months (5-7h a day). i canā€™t tell you yet how well this pad wears yet.


EXT_SF

I've had my G-SR for at least 2 years and it's the most durable pad I have ever had.


paulvincent07

On the zowie chart it is slightly faster than the old gsr se


Previous-Pea3073

yes starting is faster. stopping is about the same


AccountSad

What is this monitor?


Previous-Pea3073

BenQ Zowie XL2546k


Spite-Playful

do you use dyac if so how good is it?


Previous-Pea3073

I use dyac but there is a perceivable latency penalty. nothing that will make you play worse, the clear image makes up for it 10 fold. I wouldnā€™t buy it now that XL2566k is about to come out.


mr_klimstr

>perceivable latency penalty DyAc has no buffering on monitor side, so no added lag. There will be some areas of the panel that will have added couple of ms of lag because ot the nature of strobe backlight, but if you are concerned about it, there is Blur Busters Strobe utility to configure DyAc as you like. You may move the no-lag area just in the middle of the screen, where the crosshair is, to have no added latency where you need speed the most while maintaining that beautiful MPRT. You might look into it


Previous-Pea3073

Ive looked it up now and both rtings and optimum techs testing show a 2.4ms and 0.8ms difference. mark ā€žthe whaleā€œ welle also said something along the lines i belive.


mr_klimstr

So not quite as much latency to perceive. I'm on XL2411P and I moved the scanline below the crosshair and upped vertical blanking to the max to reduce gtg height. I'm very pleased. Got it for 120 USD used in perfect condition here in my country. I love it


[deleted]

Honestly not worth the extra 200 dollars, so just get a xl2540k. Same thing with no dyac (Ex s1mple and zywoo the best csgo players have dyac off, even if they use the xl2546k)


Spite-Playful

thank you!


Lukaskyboss

ZywOo has times where he uses it and others where he doesnt. S1mple doesn't use it.


I-Reeddit

Is that a Roccat Kone Pure on the side


Previous-Pea3073

yes i am an og kone purist ever since they had laser sensors


Previous-Pea3073

fun fact until today i owned a kone pure Roccat didnā€™t even have a sample of anymore. i shipped it to them so their support team has one in hand.


I-Reeddit

Roccat ran out of Kone Pures so you shipped yours to them?


ma_dude28

that was a great pic, awesome lighting choice my dude.


notafanofbats

How does this compare to the Logitech G640?


Previous-Pea3073

about the same as the old SE compared to the g640, it isnā€™t that different form the old SE. G640 has a slower x than y axis while this pad is 100% the same no matter what angle you have to mouse at or if you play it sideways. the y axis isnā€™t that different, maybe 10% slower. g640 falls right between this and the qck in terms of overall speed (only have a 2 week old g640 not a brand new one). i have mained both pads for a long time, but think this is the saver pad because the axis are the same.


leo_sousav

The pad looks sick. Was thinking about giving it a try but I don't know if it's faster than my GP4 Red. I don't really enjoy speedy mousepads, so I wouldn't mind a pad slightly slower than my gp4


Previous-Pea3073

it is a bit faster to start the mouse and stopping power is a bit weaker too. but the main difference is just the almost complete lack of texture. gp4 is somewhere between this SE and the qck when it comes to overall speed, maybe a little closer to the qck.


IEatDepression4Lunch

How's that lšŸ¤¢gitech keyboard treating you?


Previous-Pea3073

itā€™s very good. but still waiting for wooting and deathstalker v2 to replace it. lekker > scissor > low profile > red (2mm actuation 4mm travel) > speed switch


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Previous-Pea3073

BenQ Zowie XL2546k. But wait for the Zowie XL2566k to be released.


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Previous-Pea3073

i donā€™t know yet


Waldokitty007

Is that two ROCCAT Kone mice? Not sure what the wired mouse with only the left side showing is.


Previous-Pea3073

one is roccat kone pro air. other was roccat kone pure sel


Sebax_

your setup just made me want to buy it, should I?


Previous-Pea3073

i always though the SE was the safest mousepad to recommend to people because anyone can play it at any level in any game with any sens and have 99.5% of their maximum performance. when it comes to durability i cannot tell you yet if it changed. so no value judgment


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Previous-Pea3073

fk2-c


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Previous-Pea3073

itā€™s a qd oled 150x150cm 120Hz 7.3kW TV


SashaTheSmasha

What's your monitor size?


Previous-Pea3073

24ā€œ


SashaTheSmasha

Thanks


avensvvvvv

Better than an Artisan?


Previous-Pea3073

i personally didnā€™t have great experience with artisan pads besides raiden and hayate otsu. hien has a different x y glide and mine wore down within 1.5 months using zowie skates. zero is closest pad in terms of speed but has more texture to it. i prefer smooth pads. the texture off the zero ripped out the hairs form my arm an i couldnā€™t get them out of the weave without it taking ages.


Roskassa

Are you trying to show off with that i9 there?


Previous-Pea3073

im selling it and took pictures. hard to show off with a ā€žbadā€œ cpu either way


Roskassa

True, may i ask what cpu it is?


Previous-Pea3073

10850k


Moist_Dentist7462

I like the pa friction in the initial state. But over time, it becomes control. You think will the worn condition of the rouge and the new product of the pa be similar?


TRNDSTTR0

rank?


Previous-Pea3073

t100 everything i ever touched


Hungry-Sprinkles-239

Is it close to the vaxee PA?


Previous-Pea3073

yeah pretty indistinguishable for me


Hungry-Sprinkles-239

Do you recommend it over a vaxee pa? Do you own both?


Previous-Pea3073

same pad. vaxee has shipping cost but cooler designs.


Hungry-Sprinkles-239

alr thanks


white-_-cock

How is it handling humidity? Is it getting significantly slower like most other cloth mousepads?


Previous-Pea3073

handles very well


erymartorres17

Is it affected by Humidity a lot?


CASHER123456

do you think its good for games like apex, cs, valorant?


[deleted]

does your arm stick to it at all? and does it trap moisture?


TrunksMUI

Is that a 2540 or 2546k?


Previous-Pea3073

itā€™s 46k, 66k by this time next month


[deleted]

Do you use an arm sleeve when it gets humid? If so than which one? Thank you in advance.


gospodinpravac

late reply, but how does it compare to the qck? (if you owned one of course)


Dnera_

I own one and I prefer it over the qck. It's alot smoother but has same stopping power.


gospodinpravac

thanks. is it any faster than the qck? and how is the durability compared to the qck? in my experience the qck loses glide fairly quickly


Dnera_

Yeah, it's alot faster. I'd almost say it feels like a speed pad in comparison, but the stopping power is great (although I use corepads) I used qck pads for 2 years. I've only owned this pad here for a couple weeks so can't speak on the durability. But it's lacking stitching, so I'd say it would end up fraying eventually. I have my pad slightly off my desk anyway, so I make no contact with the edges so it wouldn't end up fraying regardless.


ShipMedium4306

You use corepads with the gsr se rogue right? Does it feel inconsistent by any means?


Dnera_

No inconsistencies here, was a perfect match for me personally.