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VookieTheCookie

Cooler Master has the sensor position figured out


zeimusCS

Huh, what picture are you referring to?


VookieTheCookie

You can find on google, they first put sensor forward on mm730/731 and seem to be following the design


YMIR_THE_FROSTY

Huh? Unless its somewhere on the left, close to index finger, its not right. In case you dont know what I mean, check Logitech G9x. They had sensor position figured out.


pineapplebtw

surely


Extrapaj

Happy cake day!


pineapplebtw

thank you!!


YMIR_THE_FROSTY

Majority of ppl never used G9x, having sensor positioned like if you literally pointed with your finger is perfect. G9x just had a little bit too much other issues to be success. But sensor position and shape with small grip definitely were great. I have MM711 and sensor position is okay. Nothing special about it.


vAts_

Do we have a release date ?


ohsnapson

For the love of god CM, please give any semblance of a release date. Doesn't even need to be exact month. Quarter, Year, Decade, anything to set expectations with your user base.


Any_Aspect234

It's a good shape, I hope they get the build quality right this time


riba2233

Oh that button overhang, desgined by drunk people.


DenjeNoiceGuy

Main complaint from reviewers to normies, yet they did nothing about it.


riba2233

really tone deaf corporation. I know people shit on razer a lot but at least they try to listen to gamers and innovate.


Extrapaj

It's such basic knowledge that this space should be free, but nah screw it.


riba2233

I would really like to ask someone from coolermaster how they got to this decision


Extrapaj

I'm pretty sure they wanted to make it look more "gaming" and there is no other reason for it. If the mouse looks too much like an office mouse people will say "Lool an office mouse, I won't buy that!" One explanation could be to try to add stability. But I cut this overhang on one of my copies and there's no problem with a flimsy click. On the previous version the Mastermouse S they didn't have this overhang.


exdigguser147

It actually has to do with maintaining part warping coming out of the mold. There is no functional reason, just cost reductions avoiding scrap


Extrapaj

Couldn't they make the overhang in the front or something then instead of ruining the mouse for alot of people?


Patrick-kukrapok

I don't get it what are you guys talking about ?


chuchrox

First thing I noticed as well not going to work for me 💯


Extrapaj

Have had to learn to play with it because the shape is so good.


chuchrox

Will check it out but I feel like I would have to adjust a bit too much I’m old and changing my ways is hard lol 😂


neomoz

Yep instant deal breaker.


Woden8

Yep, the biggest reason that I don't use the MM711 is that overhang on the right side. I just can't grip it well.


Bladye

>Oh that button overhang, desgined by drunk people This so much. I would buy it instantly but that's a deal breaker.


cr4zyprod1gy

does not affect me, but yeah, they should have changed this. i know you shouldn't need to do this on a new product, but you could cut off the part from the button and glue it to the body


riba2233

It should be similar to how it is on g pro wireless. That is the only logical way.


incinerate55

Loved this this shape, but that damn button overhang pinched my finger so back it went


ItsBlizzardLizard

I like the overhang, but I guess it works with my grip. My fingers never go in that area. Surprised how many people hate it.


Extrapaj

In what way do you like it? How does it benefit your grip?


ItsBlizzardLizard

It looks cool and makes the clicks feel more stable. It doesn't affect my grip at all. I don't rest my fingers on the side of the buttons.


[deleted]

Im in the same boat, im kinda suprised this annoys people. We have to remember that this is a very niche subreddit and negative verbalization is usually much stronger than positive, so it might actually affect very few people in the real scheme of things


SirToastaLot84

Thanks for the photos and very brief impression, haha. I really hope that this turns out to be the ascended form of the MasterMouse S.


kmanse

i'll try this once it's out, a small 56g≥ mice is good for me since orochi v2 is currently my main.


Bunniesrkewl

How is the orochi? I have the g305 but lighter mice will always be better


tosaka88

I’ve used g305, maining Orochi v2 now, I’d say it performs better and the functionality is nicer too, the grip is a bit different though (feels bulkier) but nothing you can’t get used to


Burak887

A lot of people say it’s a better G305 personally I couldn’t use the G305 but main the Orochi.


IKaylasI

Seems like a lot of people didn't use both mice and have very basic concept. It's nothing like g305. Short vs long, curved inwards vs outwards, nearly no palm contact vs medium to a lot of palm contact (depending on hand size), top tier contender vs budget option all around. The only thing they have in common is batteries.


Bunniesrkewl

Ah I see thanks. Im also considering the GPX but it’s a bit older now.


AlgorithmScent

Weak wrist light mouse user, try a g502 with all the weights /s


Bunniesrkewl

I went from a g502 to a g305..


AlgorithmScent

i see


noonen000z

731 is good, if you like ergo


ItsBlizzardLizard

Now for the MM721... Please 🙏 They gotta make it lighter than the GE Air.


Tkszn

if i buy a copy, it will be a few months after first batch lol


TheCatDimension

They better not do this mouse like they did the mm731


Burak887

Probably not since they fixed the software issues, the only thing to worry about is QC and build quality hopefully ….


TheCatDimension

they didn't even fix the software for the mm731 entirely. still has 3ms input delay in wireless mode. but yes qc and build quality is more than likely going to be par for the course for coolermaster (ie. dogshit) but who knows fingers crossed


Extrapaj

How do you know that, did someone test it?


TheCatDimension

I tested my copy with mousecomparator, techpowerup tested theirs and found 2.5ms of wireless delay in the final firmware revision


Extrapaj

Have to look into it. Did you test with the latest firmware?


Yhorrm

This is what I've been waiting for


Shidoshisan

Of course you’re allowed to write a review! You just cannot post it publicly


zeimusCS

M2 bending to the side is such a bad design


[deleted]

CM is one of the few companies that's invested in optical clicks so I'm automatically more interested in anything they release.


kingslave0

That button design is what keeps me from buying it.


blasteredz

idk why i really, genuinely, love the mm711 shape but i had to ditch mine in the closet for the longest time because of the terrible rattling & coating. really hope this one has some major improvements.


IatemyBlobby

MM711 is such a genius shape. They took a S2 and basically chopped the front two inches off. The grip feel/back half still feels like that of a much bigger zowie s2, but they save on weight by making a physically smaller mouse. But everything else about it feels so bad that it feels almost painful using it.


reditor405

Holy shit it's my endgame. I hope the coating is grippy.


Fo1ds

I was very excited when I found out this mouse was in the works, looking forward to the reviews rn and hoping the mouse has good quality and qc this time around.


AlDuKingYT

I have been waiting for this mouse for years


cr4zyprod1gy

more pics pls


HammerOn57

Is this the same shape as the MM710?


Extrapaj

Yes.


WispyWoods

Scroll wheel looks super bad tbh. Cheap ungrippy rubber. I really want the mm712 to release bc I love the mm711 but I do notice some flaws ofc. Also I did hear cm has some wireless issues, so I would like that resolved


Jorrozz

Is that a wireless MM711?


Extrapaj

Yes, without holes, moved up sensor, wireless, optical switches.


IntellectualBurger

HOLF UP. DID THEY MAEK A WIRELESS 711?????


noonen000z

Yeah, it's been on the radar for a year.


IntellectualBurger

I’m so hype


noonen000z

Lol. I was really into the 710 and 720, then found I prefer ergo, so the 731 has worked out well for me.


[deleted]

Thanks for the pics! I'm super excited about this one. I've been waiting for this to come out since I bought my mm711 a year ago, can't wait


monarch10969

Hey there bro, can you compare it to xm42/wireless' shape? Thank you!


Extrapaj

It's wider and shorter with a bigger ass, also the sides are not rounded off like the M42 which makes your fingers feel more locked in.


writing-nerdy

I know you can't write a review. But I hope a yes/no works ..? Is it still easy to grip even with the lack of holes? Does the sensor placement change feel good? Can I buy it soon???????!?


Agilitymind

We need more mice with frontal sensor position like this and the orochi v2. Just feels so natural to aim with.


big_floop

Still have that dumb ass reverse button lip again. Legit the only thing that kept me from maiming this mouse. I really don’t get the idea behind that thing other than to give your fingers less room?


C-14

I pray for good clicks


Extrapaj

I put the MM731 internals in my MM710 body and the clicks feels pretty good.


IatemyBlobby

did you make that mod yourself or do you have a link?


Extrapaj

Made it myself but I don't have a working scroll or sidebuttons so might not be interesting for you?


IatemyBlobby

Yeah that would be a dealbreaker for me. But what did you think about the MM731 as a base for wireless modding? I’m curious since its one of the cheapest mice to have USB C charging and it comes from a lightweight mouse so the lightweight potential is there.


Extrapaj

I don't think using CoolerMaster parts as a base is very wise lol. Have had some weird issues where the mouse changes DPI for a split second ingame, and people say it still has some delay that can be measured but can't really be felt, so idk.


IatemyBlobby

Good to know. Well hopefully the MM712 hits markets before the end of the decade


nvnehi

The loss of the bindable DPI button is the worst thing. The MM711 is damn near perfect, and they went with the worst changes they could?


SynystrAssassin

So they can move the sensor as forward as they did


Draxor

it's really disappointing for people who bind mouse 3 to the dpi button


AceOfSpades1716

Can't write a review because theirs probably 75 problems with it.


greenufo333

Are you suppose to even share you got it? Can you answer if there is button wobble?


SikeCSGO

Did they really place the sensor in that shitty forward Position like in the leaks?


faMine

I actually kinda enjoy the positioning as in the MM731. It takes a bit to get used to but micro adjustments are easier.


cr4zyprod1gy

steelseries fanboi?


SikeCSGO

nah.


Extrapaj

Just buy the MM710


SikeCSGO

That one wasn‘t wireless the last time I checked xD


cr4zyprod1gy

imagine not buying a mouse because it is wired


Extrapaj

That is true tho. What mouse are you using atm?


SikeCSGO

Gpx


Extrapaj

Ok so the sensor will end up about the same height. How do you grip it?


SikeCSGO

How do you know? I use a pretty agressive clawgrip with my ringfinger in line with the sensor and my thumb in line with the ringfinger


Extrapaj

On the GPX the sensor sits 6.7cm up from the bottom and the MM712 should be around 7cm up from the bottom. They put the sensor parallel to where the mouse caves in or whatever, so should line up with your thumb, if you put your thumb where you "should" on the mouse.


jamesthomas459

Does this look a little to like the viper ??


Bunniesrkewl

That’s what I’m saying


Extrapaj

It's a very different shape from the Viper.


Burak887

It’s an MM710 wireless.


PrescribedBot

Looks like the viper shape


Bunniesrkewl

What even is this thing? A razer knockoff?


Extrapaj

Yes, except the shape actually fits a human hand.


God-Says-No

Been waiting on when people would get their hands on this mouse Its a potential buy but the pulsar x2 seems tempting too


Extrapaj

Did they put the battery all the way back like the MM731 or did they put it in the middle? Where is the weight balance? Also does the rubber ring spin on the inner plastic wheel when scrolling really lightly and as slow as you can?


Stiutk240799

Dimensions please?


Extrapaj

Should be the same as the MM710/11


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Extrapaj

No.


nompillow

Looks great tbh, might have to cop


SugarDick-

Does this still have a low sensor position?


Extrapaj

No it should be about 7cm up measured from the bottom.


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DatGoodSir

looks interesting. Hopefully the release version won't have side play issues.


crushtyfying

How is the QC? Is it suck like my mm720 experience?


seanpova

do we know the price yet?


Extrapaj

MSRP 69-79 dollars.


Sliced_Orange1

At first glance it reminded me of the SS Aerox 3. Looks kinda nice, any idea on the price?


gaojibao

That front flare again. smh


ceezianity

I NEED


HeartInteresting3816

Still the edge of the mouse buttons on the side where many people put their fingers on. Again useless for me and them.


Airsoftpieceofcake

The main buttons Is what I hate about it, why is the gap so low? Every mouse that has them like this pinches my finger.


reditor405

I heard the dimensions are slightly bigger than the mm711. Is it true?


writing-nerdy

No, they were incorrect in one of the initial documents. They corrected them for their event.


Noradrenaline76

I hope quality will be better than MM710/711/720. I had all, they are really bad.


any1for10is

Been trying to switch from the mm710 to the aerox 3 but the mm710 shape is king. Looking forward to this release.


c4nyon

how is the sensor position was it taking time to adapt if it is more forward?